Lyle and TJ react to the Mariners acquiring Eugenio Suarez from the Diamondbacks, how this impacts the Mariners lineup, and what they can still do with less than a day to go before the deadline.
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00:45 --> 00:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast, part of the just baseball podcast network.
00:51 --> 00:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Recording on Wednesday evening July, thirtieth, happy evening because Gino is back!
00:59 --> 01:00 [SPEAKER_00]: He's back!
01:00 --> 01:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Woo!
01:01 --> 01:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go!
01:02 --> 01:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go, dude!
01:03 --> 01:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's fucking go!
01:06 --> 01:08 [SPEAKER_01]: That's called winning a deadline right there.
01:08 --> 01:14 [SPEAKER_01]: That right there is winning a trade deadline is going out and getting that man right there.
01:14 --> 01:18 [SPEAKER_01]: The number one trade target on the entire market.
01:19 --> 01:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I think people had their doubts earlier today, Lyle.
01:21 --> 01:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I really do think after those relievers were flying off the market earlier today, there are people like, oh, oh, they're not going to trade for anybody.
01:29 --> 01:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I will be lying if I said there wasn't any doubt creeping into my mind where it's like, all right, Duran goes off the board.
01:35 --> 01:37 [SPEAKER_01]: What's going to happen now or the mayor is going to be able to pivot?
01:37 --> 01:38 [SPEAKER_01]: What's their pivot going to look like?
01:38 --> 01:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it going to be another Caleb Ferguson?
01:41 --> 01:50 [SPEAKER_01]: No, man, these guys went right to the top of the ladder and they snatched genome away for a package of guys that honestly won't affect you at all in the future.
01:51 --> 02:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's incredible that they got this done for what we were seeing today and what at first it was like At first it was like a Tyler Lockley on two unnamed pictures and like uh-oh
02:03 --> 02:04 [SPEAKER_01]: to unnamed pictures.
02:05 --> 02:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what that is, and then you see that it's hunter-cranton and Juan Burgos, and it's like, for the guy with thirty-six home runs.
02:13 --> 02:13 [SPEAKER_01]: That one?
02:17 --> 02:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I, I couldn't believe it.
02:18 --> 02:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be, I'm just going to be frank.
02:19 --> 02:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't believe it.
02:21 --> 02:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, I am getting a laugh right now.
02:23 --> 02:27 [SPEAKER_00]: You try to say how, I think there were people that were worried that nothing was going to happen.
02:27 --> 02:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think people were starting to get empty.
02:29 --> 02:35 [SPEAKER_00]: You're saying people as if you're not using people as a general term to try and cover up that this was the two of us all day.
02:36 --> 02:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Just texting back was, I threw it in there at the end.
02:39 --> 02:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh at the end, but you're like, I think you're using people as a masking tool to say, you're like, you're using people as a masking tool to just try to divert from saying, you and I were getting nervous, worried, angry all day.
02:52 --> 02:53 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, are they gonna do anything else?
02:53 --> 02:54 [SPEAKER_00]: And then this happens.
02:55 --> 02:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I had assumed based on other language today is that the Mariners.
02:59 --> 03:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that the Mariners number one priority today was y'all under on.
03:03 --> 03:04 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was their number one priority today.
03:05 --> 03:09 [SPEAKER_01]: All the reporting was that all of the messaging was that is what they were targeting today.
03:10 --> 03:11 [SPEAKER_01]: They were going to go get a reliever.
03:11 --> 03:12 [SPEAKER_01]: They already targeted it back.
03:12 --> 03:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So the next best thing they thought they needed to go get given the asking price on Gino was to go out there and get a reliever.
03:19 --> 03:24 [SPEAKER_01]: And then when you see not one but two go off the board within thirty minutes and neither of them go to the Mariners and I'm sitting there like
03:25 --> 03:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, they don't like the Mariners prospects.
03:28 --> 03:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what are the Mariners going to be able to get a reliever if these teams don't like the Mariners prospects for relievers?
03:34 --> 03:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Are they going to want them for Gino and Gino's going to be the most expensive?
03:37 --> 03:40 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners are only going to have Josh Naylor and Caleb Ferguson at the deadline.
03:40 --> 03:41 [SPEAKER_01]: What's going to happen?
03:41 --> 03:43 [SPEAKER_00]: What are we going to talk about on Friday?
03:43 --> 03:45 [SPEAKER_00]: I got to be honest.
03:47 --> 03:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm more for the people and for the fans and for our listeners than you.
03:50 --> 03:52 [SPEAKER_00]: You're really covering up with this afternoon.
03:52 --> 03:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Look like your words were not, oh no, could what happened to their prospects?
03:56 --> 03:57 [SPEAKER_00]: What are they going to do?
03:57 --> 04:03 [SPEAKER_00]: No, let me be a good podcast host here and bring the people in and fill everybody in on what was happening this afternoon.
04:03 --> 04:06 [SPEAKER_01]: When you were texting about, I can pull them out.
04:06 --> 04:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when you're on Iran got traded, TJ and I were sending each other back and forth, the Joker video of him, of walking Phoenix dancing in the bathroom.
04:15 --> 04:17 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what happened after Duran got traded.
04:18 --> 04:29 [SPEAKER_00]: So talk about a turnaround of about five hours to go from sending like Joker videos to now we're sitting here sounding like this after genome gets traded back to the ends.
04:30 --> 04:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I said unacceptable easily could have beaten that.
04:34 --> 04:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Jerry exclamation point exclamation point exclamation point exclamation point exclamation point all in caps wake up.
04:44 --> 04:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Am I allowed to read what you wrote or am I only reading?
04:47 --> 04:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Hang on, let's do a little check here, just to make sure.
04:54 --> 04:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm just scrolling through.
04:56 --> 04:57 [SPEAKER_00]: We text a lot throughout the day.
04:57 --> 05:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sending Frank the tank videos of him screaming and freaking out.
05:01 --> 05:02 [SPEAKER_00]: What else have we got?
05:02 --> 05:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just scrolling up through it.
05:06 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I will say in response do you know what this was in response to and I will give ourselves some credit for for the response to this because I do think the response was warranted when Daniel Kramer reported after the derontrade said the Mariners announced their acquisition of left-handed reliever killed Ferguson in exchange for Geter Martinez.
05:26 --> 05:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, they talked about Colin Snyder.
05:28 --> 05:37 [SPEAKER_01]: There was, uh, there was another tweet here where it was the Mariners would be accepting of Josh Nieler being their biggest move at the deadline.
05:37 --> 05:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And which line I look at ourselves and we're like,
05:40 --> 05:41 [SPEAKER_01]: That's unacceptable.
05:42 --> 05:43 [SPEAKER_01]: That is not allowed to be the case.
05:44 --> 05:48 [SPEAKER_00]: So now I'm scrolling through and getting back to some of the texts that you're probably referring to.
05:48 --> 06:00 [SPEAKER_00]: So just to fill in a couple more before we get back to genome, I texted you five times on serious, on serious, on serious, on serious, on serious, I sent a couple of F bombs with long use and season all capital letters.
06:01 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I said today is going to be the day I have an aneurysm in all capital letters.
06:05 --> 06:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm I'm telling you like the turnaround of five hours here the trade deadline does I mean the trade deadline brings out the best and the worst in people and in fans and and we're right in that so again I was gonna I was thinking to pivot was going to be pivoting to a different worst reliever than the relievers that were available
06:29 --> 06:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought honestly thought at some point they'd already ruled out Gino.
06:32 --> 06:38 [SPEAKER_01]: They said there were serious about it, but then just there were some inklings that made me feel like the price was just too high.
06:38 --> 06:42 [SPEAKER_01]: The Diamondbacks were going to be okay hanging on to him and getting a comp pick for him.
06:42 --> 06:43 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, all right, shit.
06:44 --> 06:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, then you go try and get Willie Castro.
06:46 --> 06:47 [SPEAKER_01]: You try and get Griffin Jacks.
06:48 --> 06:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was worried they weren't going to go and pay that price.
06:50 --> 06:55 [SPEAKER_01]: But apparently looking at this price, Lyle, Gino was definitely available.
06:55 --> 06:58 [SPEAKER_01]: He was a hundred percent available.
06:59 --> 07:00 [SPEAKER_01]: No doubt, are you kidding me?
07:00 --> 07:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Any all respect to the players traded in this package?
07:05 --> 07:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Every other team that was in on Gino could have sent this package to the Diamondbacks.
07:09 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners that were the ones who got it done, and that's who gets the credit for all of this.
07:14 --> 07:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Jerry depoto, Justin Hollander, the entire front office.
07:18 --> 07:21 [SPEAKER_01]: We've been, we've been putting the stress on them for the deadline.
07:21 --> 07:29 [SPEAKER_01]: What they needed to do to go out and inquire the right pieces for this team to go, try and make the playoffs and go get the best bats available.
07:30 --> 07:31 [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't just get the best bat.
07:31 --> 07:33 [SPEAKER_01]: They got the best two bats at this deadline.
07:33 --> 07:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And look, we still got less than twenty four hours in the deadline available.
07:37 --> 07:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And they still have every big trade piece possible to go out on Thursday and trade for a big time reliever.
07:44 --> 07:48 [SPEAKER_01]: They could get an A plus plus plus plus plus plus at this deadline.
07:48 --> 07:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think it's fair to say if the deadline ends right here right now and this is our deadline.
07:54 --> 07:55 [SPEAKER_00]: It's an A. This is an A deadline.
07:55 --> 07:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Easily.
07:56 --> 07:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
07:57 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_00]: But if they were to go, this is an all in deadline.
08:00 --> 08:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Jerry, Jerry backed up his words.
08:03 --> 08:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He said, we're going all in this deadline and he backed it up.
08:07 --> 08:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Thankfully, he did.
08:09 --> 08:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Glad we don't have to, we were talking about it on Wednesday's episode.
08:12 --> 08:18 [SPEAKER_01]: He said, you can't say that and not go through with it and he went through with it.
08:18 --> 08:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Credit to you, Jerry, so much credit for you guys in the front office getting this done.
08:23 --> 08:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, all of it.
08:24 --> 08:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Jerry, Justin, everybody, everybody involved.
08:27 --> 08:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Huge, huge win by every sense of the word.
08:31 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_00]: They very clearly sat down and said, we are not messing around at this deadline and we're going to get this stuff done.
08:38 --> 08:38 [SPEAKER_00]: They got it done.
08:39 --> 08:41 [SPEAKER_00]: This is like this is sick.
08:41 --> 08:47 [SPEAKER_00]: You go from in about a week's time having Donovan Solano and
08:49 --> 08:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll do respect to him as a great defender, and he can still have a role on this team.
08:52 --> 09:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Ben Williams and at third base offensively to two serious dumpers in the middle of your order, one of which is having one of the best seasons in Major League Baseball in Gito.
09:09 --> 09:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just pull up the numbers.
09:10 --> 09:14 [SPEAKER_00]: So, Donovan Solano, I'll just use OPS for everybody just to keep it simple.
09:15 --> 09:16 [SPEAKER_00]: So, Donovan Solano.
09:16 --> 09:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you pull that up, Lyle.
09:17 --> 09:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Can I just like explain to people, you now have a hitter with forty-one home runs in the lineup and you're going to have a hitter probably hitting right after a movie is thirty-six.
09:28 --> 09:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, that's like big poppy and mani Ramirez of the O-four red socks.
09:32 --> 09:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
09:35 --> 09:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me read the numbers.
09:36 --> 09:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Donovan Solano has an eighty three OPS plus on the, sorry, I said I'd use OPS.
09:40 --> 09:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Donovan Solano is a six twenty six OPS on the year.
09:43 --> 09:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Ben Williamson has a six O four OPS on the year.
09:47 --> 09:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Josh Naylor for the season has an eight O two OPS.
09:51 --> 09:56 [SPEAKER_00]: So first base you go from a six twenty six OPS to an eight O two OPS.
09:56 --> 10:01 [SPEAKER_00]: And it third base you go from a six O four OPS in Ben Williamson.
10:01 --> 10:04 [SPEAKER_00]: to a nine hundred OPS in genus words.
10:04 --> 10:08 [SPEAKER_00]: A three hundred point OPS upgrade at third base.
10:09 --> 10:10 [SPEAKER_00]: That is winning a deadline.
10:13 --> 10:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so like now if you want to try to have some fun with the order, you would assume here it's going to go JP, Julio, Cal, you want to mix up the varieties and lefties.
10:23 --> 10:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Geno,
10:25 --> 10:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Nailer Randy at six polo at seven.
10:29 --> 10:38 [SPEAKER_00]: You would have co-young at nine playing second base in the eight spot on missing somebody can zone or whoever's playing right or Rayleigh can't zone a Rayleigh yeah
10:39 --> 10:45 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, is there a lineup in the American League, even with the healthy air and judge, where you look at them?
10:45 --> 10:49 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying, like, end all be all, the Mariners are the best team in the American League.
10:49 --> 10:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Now that's not what I'm saying.
10:51 --> 10:56 [SPEAKER_00]: But is there now a team where you look up and down their lineup and say, yeah, the Mariners are outmatched.
10:56 --> 10:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Seriously outmatched.
10:57 --> 10:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if there is one.
11:02 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_00]: not with all the astros injuries not with the way that the Yankees are structured and like what their lineup looks like when you get past judge not with even the tigers again who have had a really good year it's just not that type of lineup it's like but this is it man like the Mariners lineup like you can now argue is the best in the American League
11:24 --> 11:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And you manage to get this lineup, Lyle.
11:29 --> 11:33 [SPEAKER_01]: We love our guy, BG, but you got, well, let's actually know.
11:33 --> 11:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's focus on this trade.
11:34 --> 11:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's not focus on the Nailer trade.
11:37 --> 11:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Think about what you had to give up to Gino.
11:39 --> 11:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned this to you before we started recording.
11:42 --> 11:48 [SPEAKER_01]: The difference in talent going both ways for when you traded Gino away and then traded back for him.
11:48 --> 11:50 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not that different.
11:51 --> 11:54 [SPEAKER_00]: The Diamondbacks did get more, but it's not substantial.
11:54 --> 11:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
11:55 --> 11:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Some astronomical price more.
11:57 --> 11:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely.
11:58 --> 12:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Like Tyler Lockler is better than both the players.
12:01 --> 12:03 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners acquired for Gino when they treated him away.
12:04 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's not like the Diamondbacks are making out like bandits like they got Ryan Sloan for A-O-N-O-Swar as after the Mariners got Seby fucking Zavala for him instead.
12:15 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not that, it's not some astronomical difference.
12:21 --> 12:24 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's maybe the most incredible part about that.
12:24 --> 12:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I did do a double take when I'm reading this package of what they had to send to them.
12:28 --> 12:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Technically, as we explained on the Monday episode on what the price was, it was a big leager, it was a high-minor's prospect, and it was a lot of miners' prospect.
12:39 --> 12:40 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what they gave up.
12:41 --> 12:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Tyler Oakley was a big leader, Lyle, he was on the big league roster on Wednesday.
12:45 --> 12:52 [SPEAKER_01]: One Burgos, high minors, hunter-cranton, low minors.
12:54 --> 12:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and hunter-cranton, again, should be a fast rise or through the minors.
12:57 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_00]: He spent most of this year injured, so I think that's why he's still in high A, but he'll move pretty fast.
13:03 --> 13:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, point being, that's beside the point.
13:05 --> 13:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, like, if that's what it costs,
13:10 --> 13:28 [SPEAKER_01]: which clearly the Mariners put to action what what we've been saying if that's the cost you do that without thought and clearly they did it and then listen to this quote from Cal Rally after the game by the way who cares about the game no one cares about the game Mariners one today whether or not the score reflects that now they lost
13:29 --> 13:30 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter.
13:30 --> 13:30 [SPEAKER_00]: They won.
13:31 --> 13:31 [SPEAKER_00]: No matter what.
13:31 --> 13:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, because they got this trade done.
13:33 --> 13:34 [SPEAKER_00]: You're saying they won the day.
13:34 --> 13:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying no, they did lose the game.
13:36 --> 13:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'm glad they got this trade done.
13:38 --> 13:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, we might be sitting here talking about how they lost two or three of the A's and didn't when the angel series.
13:43 --> 13:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, let's just put that behind us and keep talking about genome.
13:46 --> 13:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Listen to this quote from Cal.
13:48 --> 13:50 [SPEAKER_01]: who he's asked after game about this trade.
13:51 --> 13:56 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like this is what me in the front office talked about in spring training when I was looking to sign here long term.
13:56 --> 13:58 [SPEAKER_01]: These right here are the things we talk about.
13:58 --> 14:03 [SPEAKER_01]: These moments and it makes you feel good about those guys following through on this action.
14:04 --> 14:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you wasn't even two years ago that Cal Raleigh through his front office in ownership under the bus saying we don't invest enough.
14:11 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_01]: We're not serious publicly.
14:14 --> 14:16 [SPEAKER_01]: after the end of his frustrating season.
14:17 --> 14:21 [SPEAKER_01]: In his second year, his second year in baseball, he said that.
14:22 --> 14:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And to think of how his tone has changed in that and believed enough in this front office to sign this extension, believed enough in this organization to ink himself for a long time and they follow through form at the deadline.
14:34 --> 14:39 [SPEAKER_01]: He signed that extension after an off season that everyone would call a joke that they didn't do enough.
14:40 --> 14:54 [SPEAKER_01]: But ultimately, while it leaves them right here in playoff position with massive upgrades and a roster that if the pitching staff and the starting rotation turns around, looks about as good as any team in the American League.
14:55 --> 14:59 [SPEAKER_00]: We should probably dive into that for a minute in terms of that Cal Quo and where it comes from.
14:59 --> 15:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Because for those who didn't read Jeff Passons article on Cal Raleigh, the day he went and won the home run Derby, which you should absolutely go read by the way, Passon killed that article.
15:08 --> 15:09 [SPEAKER_00]: It was awesome.
15:09 --> 15:12 [SPEAKER_00]: And there was a bunch of context in there that wasn't told before.
15:12 --> 15:13 [SPEAKER_00]: It was new.
15:13 --> 15:16 [SPEAKER_00]: It was really, really detailed into who Cal Raleigh is.
15:16 --> 15:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And what makes him like,
15:20 --> 15:31 [SPEAKER_00]: such a great mariner and there's so many things that go into that article but the part I'm going to sit here in reference is to what cows referencing in that quote when he said this is what me in the front office talked about
15:32 --> 15:47 [SPEAKER_00]: One day in spring training, Cal Rally in full uniform, walked upstairs to one of the offices at the Peoria Sports Complex and in full uniform sat down with Jerry DePoto and Justin Hollander, maybe some other front office people too, but at the very least, two of them for three hours.
15:47 --> 15:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's either two hours or three hours, but for two to three hours, he sat there with those guys.
15:54 --> 15:56 [SPEAKER_00]: And hammered a bunch of stuff out.
15:56 --> 15:57 [SPEAKER_00]: He had a million questions.
15:57 --> 15:58 [SPEAKER_00]: He wanted a bunch of answers.
15:59 --> 16:04 [SPEAKER_00]: He wanted to know what the future of the franchise was going to be because it all geared toward him signing an extension.
16:05 --> 16:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Cal said, if I'm going to sign here, and I'm going to commit the majority of my career to this city in this organization, I need to know that everybody's as serious as I am.
16:13 --> 16:14 [SPEAKER_00]: So Cal asks, like,
16:15 --> 16:16 [SPEAKER_00]: What are the prospects like?
16:16 --> 16:17 [SPEAKER_00]: What is the true upside?
16:18 --> 16:20 [SPEAKER_00]: If I get extended, are there going to be other moves made around me?
16:20 --> 16:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Are there going to be serious upgrades made at trade deadlines?
16:23 --> 16:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Are there going to be other acquisitions and other signs that say, it's not just me that's all in.
16:28 --> 16:30 [SPEAKER_00]: This organization is all in.
16:31 --> 16:35 [SPEAKER_00]: He clearly got a vote of confidence from Jerry and Justin enough so to sign that extension.
16:36 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_00]: And to the point of that quote tonight of Cal circling back to what he talked about in spring training, he said, it is nice to see the front office live up to their word.
16:45 --> 16:45 [SPEAKER_00]: They did that.
16:46 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_00]: This deadline by adding Gino and adding Nailer and you throw Caleb Ferguson into that too, who we haven't even talked about, but it's actually a very strong reliever.
16:54 --> 17:00 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not like, he's not Griffin Jackson's not Joe on to round, but he is a very good reliever to do all that at this deadline.
17:01 --> 17:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Signals that Jerry and Justin are living up to their word.
17:04 --> 17:05 [SPEAKER_00]: The organization is living up to their word.
17:06 --> 17:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And everything they sold him probably in that meeting about the future about the ammo they have to upgrade on their visions at the deadline and what they're looking out for and what they planned for.
17:15 --> 17:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they can come through on all of it right now.
17:18 --> 17:24 [SPEAKER_01]: So as of this point, Lyle, they like, they look at a roster that CalRoy says, all right, if we need to upgrade who could you go target?
17:24 --> 17:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they did float out Gino in that meeting.
17:27 --> 17:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Lyle and they said, look, Gino's a free agent at the end of the season.
17:30 --> 17:32 [SPEAKER_01]: He could be a trade deadline target.
17:32 --> 17:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Arthur, we signed Jorge Polanco to play third, but we don't know he's going to make it through the entire season at third base.
17:38 --> 17:39 [SPEAKER_01]: He's never played third base.
17:39 --> 17:40 [SPEAKER_01]: That could always be an option for us.
17:41 --> 17:43 [SPEAKER_01]: And they lay out some other things in this.
17:43 --> 17:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, all right, cows like, all right, I see this vision, but it's like also cow throughout your time here through the six years you're going to be on this contract with us.
17:51 --> 17:54 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have a substantial amount of homegrown talent.
17:54 --> 17:56 [SPEAKER_01]: We're expecting to supplement you with.
17:57 --> 17:59 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't have to trade any of that so far.
18:00 --> 18:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Any of those seven, eight, nine, whatever publication you look at, top one hundred prospects that the Mariners have right now, didn't have to trade a single one of them.
18:09 --> 18:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Cal Rowling, Kate Anderson, in a best case scenario, could be playing together on the same team other next year or the year after.
18:17 --> 18:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Or in Sloan and Colt Emerson maybe joining them and Colt Emerson and felony maybe someday Or it could even be Harry Ford who knows felony to long way away, but yes to the general point.
18:29 --> 18:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes
18:30 --> 18:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they don't trade felony, you know, it would be a disappointment for him if he didn't make the big leagues in cows contract.
18:37 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, of course.
18:38 --> 18:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying you like he's just got a bunch of stuff to I think work on like he hasn't hit for a ton of power this year anyway, like this is this is a side topic, but yes, you're you're absolutely right that there is serious.
18:52 --> 18:58 [SPEAKER_00]: reinforcements on the way in the farm to help Cal, and there are now reinforcements right now to help Cal.
18:58 --> 19:02 [SPEAKER_00]: How many times have we hammered at home and other people have talked about it while we're on the topic of Cal Rowley?
19:02 --> 19:07 [SPEAKER_00]: You cannot, cannot waste this season.
19:07 --> 19:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Cal Rowley may go on to be a Hall of Famer.
19:09 --> 19:11 [SPEAKER_00]: He might, we don't know how his career is going to go.
19:11 --> 19:12 [SPEAKER_00]: He could.
19:13 --> 19:15 [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't mean he's ever going to have a season like this again.
19:15 --> 19:17 [SPEAKER_00]: He could have ten more elite seasons.
19:18 --> 19:25 [SPEAKER_00]: But he may never have another like this, because he's on track to break the American League all-time home run record.
19:26 --> 19:30 [SPEAKER_00]: So to have him doing that, you have to go capitalize on this season.
19:30 --> 19:32 [SPEAKER_00]: You have to go get pieces around him.
19:32 --> 19:32 [SPEAKER_00]: They did.
19:34 --> 19:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And they did it for the combined package of Brandon Garcia, Ashton Izzy, Tyler Locklear, Hunter Cranton, and Juan Burgos for the two best bats on the market.
19:47 --> 19:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Love you, B.G.
19:48 --> 19:48 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll miss you.
19:48 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_00]: We wish you were here, obviously.
19:50 --> 19:56 [SPEAKER_00]: But to make those moves like this is a team that is going all in.
19:57 --> 20:04 [SPEAKER_01]: For the Seattle Mariners to go acquire the two best bats on the market is it's something.
20:04 --> 20:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember Jack C. Lyle.
20:06 --> 20:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember Jack C. Clearly.
20:10 --> 20:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Jaxi could not build up the farm system to go out and make this kind of trade happen.
20:15 --> 20:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Could not do it.
20:16 --> 20:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember twenty fourteen you remember twenty fourteen deadline.
20:19 --> 20:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah when they got criss-the-norfia and they got Austin Jackson.
20:23 --> 20:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
20:25 --> 20:26 [SPEAKER_01]: That offense sucked.
20:29 --> 20:47 [SPEAKER_01]: were awful and I was sitting on a plane I remember just hoping they could go out there and they could acquire someone and you could imagine my um my um unenthusiazum when they acquired Austin Jackson and Christian Orphia and you'd be shocked to believe the offense did not get any better and they missed the playoffs.
20:48 --> 20:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Wasting his historic pitching season and dude Robby must have been sitting there in year one being like what the fuck did I side up for?
20:56 --> 21:06 [SPEAKER_01]: But now the Mariners have a better offense, still felt like they needed an offensive upgrade and went to get the two best bats on the market to upgrade their lineup.
21:06 --> 21:14 [SPEAKER_01]: How jealous some of these other teams in baseball must be, ones that need bats and would love two bats, and the Mariners took both of them.
21:17 --> 21:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, crazy.
21:18 --> 21:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, this lineup now, when you look up and down it, it is seriously deep when your seven hitters Jorge Polanco, who by the way, due to the awesome July he's had, has turned his year round in a total one eighty and now his offensive numbers look seriously
21:34 --> 21:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe imposing's not the right word, but beyond respectable.
21:38 --> 21:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's put it like that.
21:39 --> 21:42 [SPEAKER_00]: He is an awesome July and really turned things around.
21:42 --> 21:43 [SPEAKER_00]: That's your seven hitter.
21:43 --> 21:47 [SPEAKER_00]: You have Domcan's own hitting eight who's been red hot since getting called up.
21:47 --> 21:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Or then you have Cole Young hitting in the nine spot who we've seen plenty of progress from in the last month, month and a half or so.
21:56 --> 21:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you're bent.
21:57 --> 21:58 [SPEAKER_01]: This is real.
21:58 --> 22:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And then your bench is probably Ben Williamson, Miles Masterboney, Luke Raylee and Mitch Garver.
22:05 --> 22:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Garver.
22:06 --> 22:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
22:06 --> 22:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
22:07 --> 22:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So the most probably Dimo and Solano are probably off the roster.
22:11 --> 22:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
22:12 --> 22:17 [SPEAKER_00]: So either master or come back or they choose to call Leo Reeves up, but again, it'd be one of the two of them.
22:17 --> 22:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
22:18 --> 22:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's your roster.
22:19 --> 22:23 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what you're rolling the next two months of the season, barring health with.
22:24 --> 22:26 [SPEAKER_01]: feeling pretty good about this.
22:27 --> 22:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel a lot better than I felt at about three o'clock this afternoon.
22:33 --> 22:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I am now like legitimately fired up to be watching Mariners baseball and look we love the Mariners and we're die hard baseball fans and of course we sit and watch every night but we're like a lot of you guys who I'm sure sitting and listening right like there's been a lot of this year that like their points were it's really hard because there's so much up and down and they can't seem to find much of an identity up to this point and you know there's been points where the offense has been
22:59 --> 23:24 [SPEAKER_00]: really frustrating there's been points where the bullpens made you want to pull your hair out obviously like with the injuries to Logan and Kirby and Bryce the rotations been in a mix all year so there's been there's been hard times of this season especially when you've missed the playoffs two years in a row after making it in twenty two but now now you sit here with this roster how could you not be fired up for the next two months of what mariners baseball could represent which I mean even numbers aside
23:25 --> 23:34 [SPEAKER_00]: to see Gino back at T-Mobile Park and he's going to have the huge smile on his face and he's going to be screaming as he runs up the stairs of the dugout and he's going to stop it.
23:35 --> 23:35 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what he does.
23:36 --> 23:41 [SPEAKER_01]: This innovation he's going to get tomorrow is going to be insane or this weekend too when there's even more fans there.
23:41 --> 23:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's so that's a thing is before Gino got traded as he would always when he was at the park.
23:48 --> 23:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, like Scott service would be doing his media session and usually around that time is when a lot of the position players start to make their way on to the field.
23:55 --> 23:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was almost every day.
23:58 --> 24:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Geno wall service was talking with scare the death at everybody sitting around listening to service talk because he'd run up those stairs with the dugout and he would just scream.
24:06 --> 24:07 [SPEAKER_00]: He'd be like, stop it.
24:08 --> 24:12 [SPEAKER_00]: But in like a very high pitch voice like top of his lungs because that's what Perry Hill always says.
24:12 --> 24:13 [SPEAKER_00]: He says stop it.
24:13 --> 24:14 [SPEAKER_00]: That's his thing.
24:14 --> 24:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so you're going to have that.
24:17 --> 24:18 [SPEAKER_00]: How about this?
24:18 --> 24:22 [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, here's a human element of this, too, and just a fun aspect of this Mariners roster.
24:22 --> 24:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I know the latter guy I'm about to mention here isn't back yet, but can that clubhouse contain the combined energy of Victor Robles and A.U.
24:30 --> 24:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Hennio Suarez?
24:33 --> 24:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Probably, because Juno's like the leadership type to like.
24:38 --> 24:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Keep everyone in check and cow.
24:41 --> 24:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
24:42 --> 24:46 [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know him and Rob was just combined of so much insane energy.
24:46 --> 24:48 [SPEAKER_01]: But Robless is like the outward energy.
24:48 --> 24:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like genos a little bit more of like control just viby energy.
24:52 --> 24:53 [SPEAKER_01]: That could be.
24:54 --> 24:55 [SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense.
24:55 --> 24:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that could be.
24:56 --> 24:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I'd say the last thing I have to say here.
24:59 --> 25:00 [SPEAKER_01]: The front office is done their job.
25:01 --> 25:03 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no excuse not making the playoffs now.
25:06 --> 25:06 [SPEAKER_00]: You gotta go do it.
25:07 --> 25:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
25:08 --> 25:12 [SPEAKER_01]: That is that is the expectation right now anything else is thumbs down.
25:12 --> 25:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Of course.
25:14 --> 25:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And if, and you know what, a roster like this says they should probably do more than just get into a wild card and get bounced.
25:21 --> 25:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
25:21 --> 25:27 [SPEAKER_00]: They should, they should make a serious, they should have a real chance to make a serious run through the American League.
25:28 --> 25:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And also tomorrow.
25:30 --> 25:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, so the episodes coming out on Thursday, you guys will have given how much, so this episode will have twelve hours between release and deadline.
25:39 --> 25:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I believe exactly.
25:40 --> 25:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
25:41 --> 25:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Twelve hours exactly.
25:43 --> 25:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the Mariners should still go out and get a reliever tomorrow.
25:47 --> 25:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I still think they need another bullpin arm.
25:49 --> 26:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I would love a leverage bullpin arm because I do still think even if you add Gino and your offense goes from twelve to seventh and baseball and run score because of this acquisition, I still do think this team needs to go out and they need to get a bullpin arm to help help this unit because the concerns of that don't just go away because you have Gino.
26:12 --> 26:12 [SPEAKER_01]: definitely.
26:13 --> 26:16 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, if you go get a solid bullpin arm, that's still good.
26:17 --> 26:24 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you go out tomorrow on Thursday, and you get Griffin Jacks, or you go get Pete Fairbanks.
26:25 --> 26:26 [SPEAKER_00]: My god, man.
26:26 --> 26:28 [SPEAKER_00]: That would be the best deadline they've ever had.
26:28 --> 26:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Because even in twenty two, when they got Luis Castillo, there were some people still frustrated that even with the Castillo trade, they didn't do enough around it because the rest of that deadline was Jake Bower's Kirk Casalea and Matt Boyd, which shot on that boy, like Seattle legend, and that interview he did after they broke the drought was unreal.
26:46 --> 26:47 [SPEAKER_00]: It was amazing.
26:47 --> 26:48 [SPEAKER_00]: But objectively,
26:49 --> 26:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Like map void then wasn't the map void that just made the all-star game.
26:52 --> 26:54 [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't do enough around Castillo with that deadline.
26:55 --> 27:05 [SPEAKER_00]: This they've already done Enough again if it ends right here right now they get an A they go get Griffin jacks or feet fairbangs tomorrow
27:06 --> 27:08 [SPEAKER_00]: They get an A plus plus plus plus plus plus plus.
27:08 --> 27:16 [SPEAKER_00]: And if they look at Kyle Finigan tomorrow or Jake Bird tomorrow, that's still an A plus because it's still another reliever that you can lean on.
27:16 --> 27:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It might not be a Griffin Jack's type, but it's still another reliever you can lean on and has some upside.
27:22 --> 27:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I almost think of the, I almost think of a Liam Neeson line from A team.
27:26 --> 27:30 [SPEAKER_00]: If anybody's seen that movie, he said in that movie goes, you give me a minute.
27:30 --> 27:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm good.
27:30 --> 27:31 [SPEAKER_00]: You give me an hour.
27:31 --> 27:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm great.
27:32 --> 27:33 [SPEAKER_00]: You give me six months.
27:33 --> 27:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm unbeatable.
27:34 --> 27:35 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like,
27:35 --> 27:37 [SPEAKER_00]: You give me nailer, I'm good.
27:37 --> 27:39 [SPEAKER_00]: You give me genome, I'm great.
27:39 --> 27:41 [SPEAKER_00]: You give me Griffin Jax, I'm unbeatable.
27:44 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, yes.
27:47 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, second.
27:48 --> 27:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, to all you guys listening, we are planning to do a deadline mail bag to come out on Monday.
27:54 --> 28:00 [SPEAKER_01]: So any questions you guys have since most likely the biggest acquisitions have already been in the bag.
28:00 --> 28:04 [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to go ahead and send those questions to us, you can respond.
28:04 --> 28:05 [SPEAKER_01]: You can send us a DM, send us an email.
28:06 --> 28:13 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll start gathering those today on Thursday and record that on Thursday to get it out on Monday.
28:13 --> 28:14 [SPEAKER_01]: So get ahead on that.
28:15 --> 28:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we owe you guys mail bags.
28:16 --> 28:19 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's why next week we're doing two.
28:19 --> 28:21 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do a deadline mail bag on Monday.
28:21 --> 28:24 [SPEAKER_00]: We're like TJ just said we're going to take all your questions about the deadline.
28:24 --> 28:28 [SPEAKER_00]: And the next Friday's episode, it'll just be a normal mail bag where you guys can send us whatever you want.
28:28 --> 28:32 [SPEAKER_00]: But because they traded for Nailer because they traded for genome because the deadline's going to wrap up.
28:33 --> 28:34 [SPEAKER_00]: We haven't had time to do any mail bags.
28:35 --> 28:37 [SPEAKER_00]: So we owe you guys and we're going to get back to a few of them.
28:37 --> 28:37 [SPEAKER_00]: But yes.
28:38 --> 28:42 [SPEAKER_00]: As we wrap this up, I would tell every single person listening to get fired up.
28:43 --> 28:49 [SPEAKER_00]: This is what it felt like when they traded for Luis Castillo in twenty-twenty-two, and that team went made the playoffs.
28:49 --> 28:55 [SPEAKER_00]: This team has every reason and every ounce of ability to go make the playoffs, and they should.
28:55 --> 28:57 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the expectation of bare minimum.
28:57 --> 29:06 [SPEAKER_00]: So to have Gino back, to have Nailer here, to have Caleb Ferguson here, who again, I know we kind of barely talked about, but probably deserves a little more recognition, and we can talk more about him on the Friday episode.
29:08 --> 29:11 [SPEAKER_00]: get fired up because they've got a chance to make a real run now.
29:12 --> 29:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Pretty exciting.
29:13 --> 29:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
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