Lyle and TJ react to the Mariners AMAZING extra innings win over the Detroit Tigers to send them to the ALCS (2:30). They then preview the upcoming championship series and what it will take to beat the Toronto Blue Jays (38:20).
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00:00 --> 00:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to episode number 308 of the Marine Lair podcast, The Marist defeat the Tigers in 15 innings 3 to 2, and advance to the American League Championship series.
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01:02 --> 01:13 [SPEAKER_02]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just baseball podcast network recording here on Friday evening October 10th Lion Goldstein they have done it.
01:13 --> 01:22 [SPEAKER_02]: They have slayed the dragon not once but twice and they're headed to the American League championship series
01:24 --> 01:27 [SPEAKER_03]: I never want to see another extra ending playoff game again.
01:27 --> 01:27 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm done.
01:28 --> 01:32 [SPEAKER_03]: It took them 17 extra innings in the last three years to score a run at home.
01:35 --> 01:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I never want to see an extra ending playoff game again.
01:37 --> 01:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I never want to see Derek Scooble again and you know what?
01:40 --> 01:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Get Carrie Carpenter off my TV forever.
01:43 --> 01:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Ever.
01:43 --> 01:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
01:48 --> 01:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe we're sitting here doing this.
01:51 --> 01:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I cannot believe we're sitting here and actually doing this.
01:55 --> 02:02 [SPEAKER_01]: The Seattle Mariners are one of the last four team standing in major league baseball.
02:02 --> 02:07 [SPEAKER_01]: The Seattle Mariners are one of the last four team standing.
02:09 --> 02:13 [SPEAKER_03]: I think everyone listening to this understand the paranoia that comes along with being a Mariners fan.
02:14 --> 02:24 [SPEAKER_03]: As you watch in the 11th inning, as you watch in the 12th inning, the 13th inning, the 14th inning where you see the Mariners try literally everything to score run.
02:25 --> 02:30 [SPEAKER_03]: They try to swing for the fences, they try to steal, they try to hit grounders, they try to hit fly balls,
02:32 --> 02:33 [SPEAKER_03]: None of it worked!
02:33 --> 02:40 [SPEAKER_03]: They faced good pitchers, they faced bumps, and they could not fucking score a run.
02:41 --> 02:43 [SPEAKER_03]: And I was losing my mind.
02:43 --> 02:48 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna be honest to all of our listeners on here, who wanna hear us whether the Mariners win or lose.
02:50 --> 02:54 [SPEAKER_03]: I have no idea how long I were going to get to this podcast and talk.
02:55 --> 03:03 [SPEAKER_03]: If they had lost that game, I'm not sure how I'd been able to string sentences together to talk to you guys, but it's great because I don't have to worry about that.
03:03 --> 03:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Because the Tigers, for all the opportunities, the Mariners squandered and they squandered so many in this game.
03:12 --> 03:20 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners finally were able to take a gift and Tommy camely in the 15th inning and push across one measly run to win the game.
03:22 --> 03:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, do you know how many people would have been hate listening to this episode if they lost all these people that are fans of other teams?
03:28 --> 03:29 [SPEAKER_01]: But you know what?
03:29 --> 03:31 [SPEAKER_01]: We ain't doing a second of that.
03:31 --> 03:38 [SPEAKER_01]: This is 1 percent nothing but a celebration episode and it should be nothing but that.
03:38 --> 03:40 [SPEAKER_01]: It should be nothing but that.
03:40 --> 03:43 [SPEAKER_01]: You have every reason to celebrate.
03:43 --> 03:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, after just 15 of the most painful innings I've ever watched in my entire life.
03:52 --> 04:18 [SPEAKER_03]: the mergers just find a way man they just find a way at where do we like oh my god i mean first off i have almost no voice left despite watching from home can i can i just say this it literally didn't even matter how you approach today you and i approached today from totally different months head spaces and that was on purpose i thought it would be great for us to try different things and see
04:19 --> 04:27 [SPEAKER_03]: If it worked by chance, once the first inning started, once that first pitch was thrown, I think I was in the same exact boat as Lyle was.
04:28 --> 04:30 [SPEAKER_03]: I was a nervous wreck.
04:31 --> 04:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Many of you saw my post this morning that I posted all over our socials where I'm like, you know what?
04:36 --> 04:39 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not ready for the Mariners season to end today.
04:40 --> 04:40 [SPEAKER_03]: I was right.
04:42 --> 04:43 [SPEAKER_03]: And I was being misrepossitive.
04:44 --> 04:46 [SPEAKER_03]: I was being misrepossitive.
04:46 --> 04:48 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm trying to psych myself and being ready for this game.
04:50 --> 04:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Once it got to first fetch, all that went out the window.
04:54 --> 04:56 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought maybe not going to the game one help.
04:57 --> 05:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Also, no, it was awful.
05:00 --> 05:02 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what I would have done at the game.
05:03 --> 05:07 [SPEAKER_03]: That would have been just unbelievably worse.
05:08 --> 05:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I would have gone into cardiac arrest.
05:10 --> 05:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
05:12 --> 05:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
05:12 --> 05:15 [SPEAKER_01]: If we were that game, I might have not made it.
05:16 --> 05:17 [SPEAKER_01]: But let me see this.
05:18 --> 05:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to take a victory lap here, too.
05:20 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Because what do we do after the Game 4 podcast that we put out on Thursday, all across social media?
05:26 --> 05:26 [SPEAKER_01]: What did I say?
05:27 --> 05:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Terrac's Google was throwing a no hitter with 19 punchouts going one over the minimum on a drop nerd strike.
05:32 --> 05:34 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what, everybody?
05:34 --> 05:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes the reverse jinx just works.
05:38 --> 05:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I had been so awful with all my Terrac's Google predictions.
05:41 --> 05:42 [SPEAKER_01]: All year.
05:42 --> 05:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I said, you know what?
05:44 --> 05:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Why not one more time?
05:45 --> 05:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Why not one more time?
05:47 --> 05:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me be as wrong as I can be, about Terrac's couple.
05:50 --> 05:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, he still was about his dominance.
05:53 --> 06:05 [SPEAKER_01]: He's been all year, but when it's all said and done, the Mariners scratched across a run against them, a massive, massive, massive Mitch Garver sacrifice fly run against them.
06:06 --> 06:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And ultimately, they beat them.
06:08 --> 06:19 [SPEAKER_01]: They beat the soon to be two times sai-young winner, four times this year, four, and two in one playoff series.
06:19 --> 06:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I just said it in our reaction on social media, and I'll say it right here, too.
06:23 --> 06:25 [SPEAKER_01]: If the Mariners go on to win the World Series,
06:26 --> 06:28 [SPEAKER_01]: That is gonna be all over that DVD.
06:29 --> 06:31 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what we're gonna be talking about 30 years from now?
06:31 --> 06:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Say, and remember how the Mariners beat a potential Hall of Fame pitcher who was in the prime of his career in one back-to-back side-yongs, four times and twice in a play-off series?
06:42 --> 06:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that is gonna get talked about forever.
06:44 --> 06:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Forever, even if they didn't light them up, forever, that's gonna be talked about.
06:49 --> 06:52 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't win four games against Terric Scoobl.
06:52 --> 06:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And the Mariners just did.
06:55 --> 06:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Why did Terrix school exit after six innings?
06:59 --> 06:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, dude.
06:59 --> 07:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that we've calmed down, if we want to have some conversations about this, Terrix school, but look, maybe it's not fair to put any accusations out there.
07:07 --> 07:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Terrix school looked like he might have made a couple of business decisions in that game five.
07:12 --> 07:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I know the stat was, and they talked about it on the broadcast, and he's never gone past 108 pitches.
07:20 --> 07:26 [SPEAKER_01]: wouldn't game five be the game to go past 108 pitches and just go a C. G. Go complete game.
07:26 --> 07:30 [SPEAKER_01]: That was really odd to be done after 99 pitches there.
07:32 --> 07:33 [SPEAKER_03]: Marin fans probably don't want to hear this.
07:34 --> 07:38 [SPEAKER_03]: If Terri Scoop will throw eight innings of that game, the Mariners would be losers right now.
07:39 --> 07:40 [SPEAKER_03]: They would have lost that game.
07:40 --> 07:41 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a decent chance.
07:41 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll put it like that.
07:42 --> 07:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess you don't know what happens as this pitch count gets higher, but man, when you talk about a guy on a roll,
07:48 --> 07:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody could touch him.
07:49 --> 07:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I got to a point where he struck out six batters in a row.
07:51 --> 07:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe with a seven.
07:53 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the outside of a Josh Nailer check swing double in a Mitch Garver sacrifice fly.
07:59 --> 08:01 [SPEAKER_03]: The Marylanders didn't touch him tonight.
08:01 --> 08:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
08:03 --> 08:05 [SPEAKER_03]: And he again, he exits in the sixth inning.
08:05 --> 08:08 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought he had at least one more batter in him.
08:09 --> 08:13 [SPEAKER_03]: But to get pulled in an elimination game game five where it
08:15 --> 08:20 [SPEAKER_03]: on your team and on the mariners, guys are pitching in the game on their off day.
08:20 --> 08:26 [SPEAKER_03]: But starters are throwing on days they should not be throwing normally to stay healthy.
08:26 --> 08:28 [SPEAKER_03]: And Terri Scooble gets pulled at 90.
08:28 --> 08:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, how was it 99 pitches?
08:32 --> 08:32 [SPEAKER_01]: What?
08:33 --> 08:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure it was 99 here.
08:35 --> 08:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I've got the box score up.
08:36 --> 08:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was 99.
08:36 --> 08:36 [SPEAKER_01]: What?
08:38 --> 08:39 [SPEAKER_01]: How is that possible?
08:40 --> 08:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Dude, like you said, he could have gone C.J.
08:42 --> 08:45 [SPEAKER_03]: and I honestly don't think the mayor of score against him and the Tigers win the game.
08:47 --> 08:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Why did he get pulled?
08:50 --> 08:54 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not complaining, but I couldn't believe it, either hike or H.A.
08:54 --> 09:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Hinch, who's loaded as a playoff mastermind, and maybe yes, he's managed to turn a playoff games.
09:03 --> 09:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Perhaps he talked with Terrick's school about this before the start, entirely possible.
09:08 --> 09:14 [SPEAKER_03]: But man, if you're trying to win, you're trying to win a game and that's what you do.
09:14 --> 09:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's how you let the Mariners off the hook.
09:19 --> 09:22 [SPEAKER_03]: And essentially, pissed away your advantage in some part.
09:23 --> 09:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I was gonna say, if you let Terrac School will go out there and try to throw a complete game and he gives up runs and you lose, I feel like if you're the Tigers, then you just tip your cap and say, you know what?
09:33 --> 09:37 [SPEAKER_01]: We threw the best picture in the world that this at these guys in a doer die game five.
09:37 --> 09:38 [SPEAKER_01]: and we lost.
09:39 --> 09:41 [SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna throw our hands up and tip our cap.
09:41 --> 09:46 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, man, the way he was rolling to just be done after six, that was pretty crazy.
09:47 --> 09:48 [SPEAKER_01]: That was really crazy.
09:48 --> 09:56 [SPEAKER_03]: And in terms of a team trying to win in a elimination game five, the longest game five ever that went 15 innings.
09:56 --> 10:04 [SPEAKER_03]: And even at the Tigers had somehow scripted by an advance, you would have essentially screwed over your entire bullpen and your rotation to get to the point
10:08 --> 10:09 [SPEAKER_03]: to go eight to nine innings.
10:10 --> 10:11 [SPEAKER_03]: This isn't like a George Kirby problem.
10:11 --> 10:14 [SPEAKER_03]: You know why the Mariners pulled George Kirby today, guys.
10:14 --> 10:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Because when the Mariners left George Kirby in too long in game one, he gave up a really crucial home run.
10:21 --> 10:22 [SPEAKER_03]: And the Mariners were aggressive.
10:22 --> 10:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Even though he was arguably pitching better today on a bigger stage, they decided to pull him before even worrying about a scenario like that.
10:33 --> 10:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Terrix school is not a guy you have to worry about it, but like that.
10:36 --> 10:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Dude throws 101 miles an hour with the best change up in baseball.
10:40 --> 10:43 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't have to pull him for a lefty, righty split.
10:43 --> 10:48 [SPEAKER_03]: That decision gets made by either Terrix or by the Tiger's organization to take him out of the game.
10:49 --> 10:58 [SPEAKER_03]: And from either's perspective, I cannot understand it, even from Terrix who's going to be a fridge and after next year is set to make $400 million.
10:59 --> 11:00 [SPEAKER_03]: I cannot understand
11:02 --> 11:04 [SPEAKER_03]: wanting, not wanting to go out there and win a game five.
11:05 --> 11:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't get it.
11:05 --> 11:08 [SPEAKER_03]: If that was the decision made from his side, I don't get it.
11:08 --> 11:10 [SPEAKER_03]: If it was the Tigers, that's even worse.
11:13 --> 11:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Feels, there's no way to know, but if you're asking us to just guess that feels like there was a little bit of a business decision made to me.
11:21 --> 11:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Great.
11:23 --> 11:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, you know what?
11:25 --> 11:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Terriq school's the best in the world and Hattip to him.
11:27 --> 11:28 [SPEAKER_01]: He threw great.
11:28 --> 11:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about Mariners.
11:29 --> 11:30 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what we want to hear about.
11:30 --> 11:37 [SPEAKER_01]: But like, let's talk about the Mariners, you know, the team that's going to the AL freaking CS who pulled out the win of their lives tonight.
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11:39 --> 11:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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12:40 --> 12:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, can I highlight one more tiger's thing just quickly, just quickly.
12:43 --> 12:50 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, same, same thought from Tara, as from Tara's school, getting pulled.
12:51 --> 12:54 [SPEAKER_03]: The tiger's only let Troy melt and throw one ending in this game.
12:55 --> 13:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Troy melt and carve the Mariners all series on, but he only got to throw one ending after throwing 35 pitches in game four.
13:02 --> 13:06 [SPEAKER_03]: That I also didn't understand, but also another benefit to the Mariners, because they could not touch him one lick.
13:09 --> 13:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I was more than happy to see Katermontaro and Jack Flaherty and Tommy Kainley.
13:13 --> 13:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh god.
13:14 --> 13:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Finally, what's Jack Flaherty and Tommy Kainley got the game?
13:19 --> 13:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, even Katermontaro, that guy has not been good.
13:22 --> 13:23 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
13:24 --> 13:28 [SPEAKER_03]: So there was no excuse after Troy Melton got pulled, and eventually they did do it.
13:28 --> 13:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, Mariners Lyle, Mariners, Mariners, for back to the Mariners.
13:32 --> 13:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Give me your biggest Mariners storyline from this game.
13:37 --> 13:39 [SPEAKER_01]: There's so many.
13:39 --> 13:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's going to be a few to get to.
13:43 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I am going to have to sit here and address the elephant in the room after, you know, letting out a tattoo of emotion after game one when they did not go to Game Spire the third time through the face carry carbon there.
14:00 --> 14:05 [SPEAKER_01]: They did it tonight and did not go as planned
14:07 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I may have been getting owned a little bit online, even though let me say this about the decision.
14:14 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_01]: It was still the right decision.
14:16 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_01]: That was the right decision.
14:18 --> 14:19 [SPEAKER_01]: And we'll go back to all the numbers.
14:19 --> 14:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Gave Spire gives up a 500 OPS against lefties.
14:22 --> 14:23 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't give a Homer's to lefties.
14:23 --> 14:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Carry Carpenter doesn't hit lefties.
14:25 --> 14:28 [SPEAKER_01]: George Kirby's numbers against Carpenter are not good.
14:28 --> 14:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Kirby third time through a struggled.
14:31 --> 14:31 [SPEAKER_01]: The matchup was right.
14:32 --> 14:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, Gabe just did not throw a good enough pitch and carpenter got to it.
14:36 --> 14:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, that is not the biggest storyline of this game.
14:39 --> 14:47 [SPEAKER_01]: That's just what I figured I probably needed to start with because I've spent a lot of time in the series talking about that matchup from game one.
14:48 --> 14:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And what had happened to get in game five, unfortunately,
14:51 --> 14:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Gabe did give up the homework.
14:52 --> 14:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Now in game 2, he struck carbon around and he got the job done.
14:54 --> 14:57 [SPEAKER_01]: That was the right process, the right move.
14:57 --> 14:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I know Kirby was dealing, again, and he was pitching phenomenally.
14:59 --> 15:00 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll get to him.
15:01 --> 15:01 [SPEAKER_01]: It was the right move.
15:02 --> 15:06 [SPEAKER_01]: It unfortunately just was not good enough execution.
15:07 --> 15:18 [SPEAKER_03]: So this is where some of the other counterarguments of this, our friend Jo Doe, where we were texting with before the game, I thought, laid it out from the other perspective kind of well.
15:18 --> 15:20 [SPEAKER_03]: He laid it out in one simple sentence.
15:20 --> 15:22 [SPEAKER_03]: He said baseball's not binary.
15:22 --> 15:25 [SPEAKER_03]: you can't just, it's not, not black and white.
15:26 --> 15:28 [SPEAKER_03]: And today did say that.
15:28 --> 15:28 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm with you.
15:28 --> 15:31 [SPEAKER_03]: I think going to Gabe in that situation was correct.
15:31 --> 15:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Gabe has been one of the 10, 5 best relievers in all of Major League Baseball this season.
15:36 --> 15:39 [SPEAKER_03]: And George Kirby did everything you needed him to today.
15:39 --> 15:46 [SPEAKER_03]: So there was no expectation with how Kerry Carpenter had hit the series that anyone besides Gabe's fire was going to throw to him.
15:46 --> 15:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, the result didn't.
15:47 --> 15:49 [SPEAKER_03]: the result didn't yield anything good.
15:50 --> 15:57 [SPEAKER_03]: And ultimately, the lack of execution on that was, I think, off from the Mariners game plan today.
15:58 --> 16:00 [SPEAKER_03]: So Gabe attacks Kerry Carpenter.
16:01 --> 16:30 [SPEAKER_03]: with a heater, middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle
16:32 --> 16:37 [SPEAKER_03]: If you looked at the Mariners, the Mariners splits.
16:40 --> 16:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Gave Spire was the only pitcher in the entire Mariners staff who's throwing fastballs.
16:46 --> 16:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Simon Kirby.
16:48 --> 16:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Kirby sprinkled in his sinker, he threw his sinker over all 24% of the time.
16:55 --> 16:58 [SPEAKER_03]: George Kirby on the day, listen to these stats, dog.
17:02 --> 17:05 [SPEAKER_03]: 50% as a starter, like Lance McCuller's level.
17:05 --> 17:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Gabe was the only one who threw fastballs at that high of a rate.
17:11 --> 17:14 [SPEAKER_03]: Next up, Matt Brash 73% sliders.
17:15 --> 17:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Did not throw a single fastball's entire appearance.
17:19 --> 17:20 [SPEAKER_03]: 19 sliders, seven change-ups.
17:21 --> 17:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Andre Smunius, 22 sliders, three fastballs.
17:27 --> 17:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Logan Gilbert.
17:29 --> 17:32 [SPEAKER_03]: 15 sliders, 14 splitters, four fastballs.
17:34 --> 17:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Bizarro did throw some more heaters, 11, 11 sliders, 28% of the time, and Castia threw some fastballs.
17:42 --> 17:49 [SPEAKER_03]: But for the meat of that game, dog, the strategy was not to throw the tigers a single fastball.
17:50 --> 17:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for the first,
17:52 --> 17:53 [SPEAKER_03]: 13 innings of the game.
17:54 --> 17:56 [SPEAKER_03]: They were not allowed to see anything straight.
17:57 --> 18:01 [SPEAKER_03]: And unfortunately, the one pitch that they see straight over the middle gets parked over the fence.
18:02 --> 18:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
18:03 --> 18:05 [SPEAKER_03]: So we're talking about execution.
18:05 --> 18:08 [SPEAKER_03]: There's execution from a number of spaces in game one.
18:09 --> 18:11 [SPEAKER_03]: We thought it was execution of process.
18:11 --> 18:15 [SPEAKER_03]: And this, it was execution of pitching game plan, which was clear and obvious.
18:15 --> 18:18 [SPEAKER_03]: And the Tigers, by the way, did not hit sliders.
18:18 --> 18:19 [SPEAKER_03]: No.
18:19 --> 18:21 [SPEAKER_03]: One fastball, accountant for all two of their runs.
18:22 --> 18:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
18:22 --> 18:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
18:24 --> 18:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get, I mean, there's so many store lines that hit in this game.
18:28 --> 18:28 [SPEAKER_01]: What's next?
18:29 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, should we just talk about Polo?
18:30 --> 18:32 [SPEAKER_01]: We probably buried that for too long.
18:33 --> 18:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to talk about Leo.
18:34 --> 18:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we could talk about Polo first.
18:37 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_03]: That's his spot.
18:38 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
18:38 --> 18:42 [SPEAKER_03]: The most clutch hitter and baseball this entire season by fan graphs.
18:43 --> 18:43 [SPEAKER_03]: The most clutch.
18:44 --> 18:46 [SPEAKER_03]: When they walked Hulu, I was wondering
18:49 --> 18:51 [SPEAKER_03]: They were trying to set up the double play.
18:52 --> 18:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Great.
18:53 --> 18:55 [SPEAKER_03]: But a base hit either way, loses them in the game.
18:57 --> 19:01 [SPEAKER_03]: So the situation was, second and third, one out, right?
19:01 --> 19:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Second and third, one out, second and third, two outs.
19:04 --> 19:05 [SPEAKER_01]: One out, regardless.
19:06 --> 19:09 [SPEAKER_01]: One out, one out, there's only one out, one out, one out, walked it off.
19:09 --> 19:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
19:10 --> 19:10 [SPEAKER_03]: OK.
19:11 --> 19:16 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's either second and third, one out, who we are bases loaded one out with Polanco at the plate.
19:17 --> 19:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Who are I'd read because if my memory serves correctly, we'd just throw a couple of numbers at people.
19:23 --> 19:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Fourth, least clutch player in baseball this season in fan graphs, clutch metric.
19:29 --> 19:31 [SPEAKER_03]: They use like wind probability added all these things.
19:32 --> 19:35 [SPEAKER_03]: How you hit and high leverage, do you come through, do you drive and run when your team needs it?
19:36 --> 19:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Jorge Polanco is number one in that stat, in the entire league.
19:42 --> 19:44 [SPEAKER_03]: The most clutch player in baseball this season.
19:45 --> 19:57 [SPEAKER_03]: So when the Tigers made that decision to walk Julio and face Polanco and said, even if they were trying to set up a double play, I thought was still a mistake and Polanco made them pay.
19:58 --> 20:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Battles in the at bat had not had a great game, not like his first game against Terrick's Google before that, battle to make the count full and came through like, this is what Polo does.
20:12 --> 20:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Just grinds out on that bat and comes up with a huge hit.
20:15 --> 20:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Like this is what 20, 25, 4-HP Lanko has been.
20:19 --> 20:19 [SPEAKER_03]: This guy right here.
20:20 --> 20:23 [SPEAKER_01]: You just feel confident is all hell with him at the plate.
20:23 --> 20:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I wanted him to be the guy to end it.
20:26 --> 20:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you what.
20:27 --> 20:29 [SPEAKER_01]: This could be a conversation for a different day.
20:30 --> 20:33 [SPEAKER_01]: He needed to be polo there, because some of these jeans are not that huge enough.
20:33 --> 20:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, some of these genome at bats in this series.
20:38 --> 20:40 [SPEAKER_03]: They were like, I think that's why it was like so important.
20:40 --> 20:55 [SPEAKER_03]: I was worried what was going to happen if Polo somehow struck out there, because I was not confident in Gino, I don't want to say Gino needs to get benched, but he's looked awful, awful at the play.
20:56 --> 20:58 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, overmatched against, it doesn't even matter who it's not even just
21:06 --> 21:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Like whoever the Tigers were throwing out there at him.
21:09 --> 21:09 [SPEAKER_03]: It was not pretty.
21:10 --> 21:14 [SPEAKER_03]: He had the one swinging Detroit, otherwise, man, it has just been bad.
21:17 --> 21:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Really, really tough.
21:18 --> 21:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if we see Ben Williams on it all in the ALCS.
21:21 --> 21:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea.
21:23 --> 21:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, Gino just makes some quick swing corrections in the next couple of days and figures it out because they need him.
21:29 --> 21:30 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got to have better doubts than that.
21:30 --> 21:32 [SPEAKER_01]: But again, you know what?
21:33 --> 21:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Today's the wrong day to spend that much time focusing on that.
21:36 --> 21:40 [SPEAKER_01]: It's more about when Polo stepped up in the clutch, yet not a hit all night.
21:40 --> 21:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he almost left the yard earlier in the game.
21:42 --> 21:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Again off-scouvel.
21:44 --> 21:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And I got all excited and jumped out of my seat and it was just about.
21:48 --> 21:53 [SPEAKER_01]: But to come up clutch the way he did, man, that was so sick.
21:54 --> 21:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And he is just so unfazed by all of it, too.
21:57 --> 21:59 [SPEAKER_01]: He does not get phased by those moments.
21:59 --> 22:00 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the veteran in him.
22:00 --> 22:02 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the 10 years of big league time in him.
22:03 --> 22:05 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the totally professional hitter in him.
22:05 --> 22:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Locked in his ever clutches up.
22:08 --> 22:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Which is why I like him over Julio.
22:10 --> 22:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Screwed the stats.
22:11 --> 22:14 [SPEAKER_03]: Just watch that bats and the two of them bat in a big spot.
22:15 --> 22:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Julio sometimes expands, he fails.
22:18 --> 22:21 [SPEAKER_03]: He gets too excited at the plate in a big moment.
22:21 --> 22:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Pulla doesn't.
22:22 --> 22:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Like he said, it's right in line with his personality as a player.
22:26 --> 22:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Calm, cool, collected, professional.
22:31 --> 22:32 [SPEAKER_03]: And it showed him that at that.
22:33 --> 22:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Like he's not chasing.
22:35 --> 22:37 [SPEAKER_03]: He's not expanding the zone to try and walk off.
22:38 --> 22:39 [SPEAKER_03]: No, he's just taking one of the gives him.
22:40 --> 22:43 [SPEAKER_03]: If he wasn't going to get that hit there, he's going to walk and give the Mariners the win.
22:43 --> 22:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Anyways.
22:44 --> 22:44 [SPEAKER_03]: I think.
22:49 --> 22:55 [SPEAKER_03]: But right up there with it, Lao has to be the fact that the Mariners went to Leo Rivas to tie the game in the seventh inning.
22:56 --> 23:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, let's go, friend of the pod Leo Rivas, let's go.
23:01 --> 23:03 [SPEAKER_01]: That was sick.
23:04 --> 23:06 [SPEAKER_03]: The sequence of it is just insane.
23:07 --> 23:11 [SPEAKER_03]: So you have, let me try and get this right.
23:11 --> 23:13 [SPEAKER_03]: My mind has been through the fucking ringer today, man.
23:17 --> 23:34 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a righty on the mound, they bring cansone off the bench, they bring a lefty in, and then they pull cansone, they burn cansone completely to bring Leo Revaucin, and I'm sitting there on that moment of like, you just burn like one of the eight best hitters on your roster.
23:34 --> 23:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Like that, like he's, if you do that with cansone, in case anyone's not familiar, he cannot play the rest of the game.
23:41 --> 23:41 [SPEAKER_03]: He's out.
23:42 --> 23:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so just to make it clear,
23:44 --> 23:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Garver steps up, or while Garver was due up, they take Garver out, they announce canzone as the pencheter.
23:51 --> 23:54 [SPEAKER_01]: And once you announce a guy as a pencheter, entering the game, he's in.
23:55 --> 24:02 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't work in a way where he has to see a pitch before he is qualified to be in the game.
24:02 --> 24:04 [SPEAKER_01]: No, if you announce him as the pencheter, he's in.
24:04 --> 24:06 [SPEAKER_01]: So they announce him as the pencheter.
24:06 --> 24:08 [SPEAKER_01]: AJ hints starts to play chess.
24:08 --> 24:09 [SPEAKER_01]: He goes out.
24:09 --> 24:11 [SPEAKER_01]: He goes and gets the lefty.
24:11 --> 24:13 [SPEAKER_01]: He brings was that it was Tyler Holtman.
24:13 --> 24:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I think into the game.
24:14 --> 24:15 [SPEAKER_01]: That's so wrong.
24:15 --> 24:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And then once Holtman comes in, Dan Wilson counters and says, you know what?
24:22 --> 24:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to have canzone hit left on left.
24:24 --> 24:24 [SPEAKER_01]: He took a gamble.
24:25 --> 24:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And he said, okay, we're going to burn down here.
24:27 --> 24:30 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go get Leo Rivas because he's the better matchup for Tyler Holtman.
24:31 --> 24:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Leo Reeves, man, absolutely clutches the hell up and roaps that ball to left field to tie the game.
24:40 --> 24:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Dude, that takes some balls.
24:43 --> 24:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I love Leo to trust him in that moment of the game.
24:49 --> 24:52 [SPEAKER_03]: They're less than nine outs left in your season.
24:53 --> 24:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Leo is hit really well when he's been asked to hit.
24:57 --> 24:59 [SPEAKER_03]: He has, he has to save the season.
25:02 --> 25:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Insane, it worked out.
25:06 --> 25:06 [SPEAKER_03]: That's great.
25:06 --> 25:07 [SPEAKER_03]: That's all that matters.
25:08 --> 25:12 [SPEAKER_03]: At this point, because there would be people, there's even me sitting here thinking about this.
25:12 --> 25:15 [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, well, Ken's own does hit lefties.
25:15 --> 25:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's not a problem for him.
25:16 --> 25:19 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not as good, but he still does hit lefties.
25:19 --> 25:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, average wise, he'll squeak out some singles.
25:22 --> 25:24 [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't hit for much authority versus lefties.
25:24 --> 25:25 [SPEAKER_01]: The OPS is not high.
25:25 --> 25:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Didn't need authority, just need to base it.
25:26 --> 25:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Just like Leo, just need to base it.
25:28 --> 25:28 [SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
25:30 --> 25:32 [SPEAKER_03]: He looked good up there, and that about he really looked good.
25:32 --> 25:35 [SPEAKER_03]: He did, and he put a great swing on that ball.
25:35 --> 25:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, these are the little contributors that you need to win these games.
25:40 --> 25:43 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll, this is the Joey Coraloui so-how moments.
25:44 --> 25:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Where if the Mariners win the World Series again, I talk about how beating Terrix school four times will be all over that DVD, guaranteed you.
25:53 --> 25:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Leo Revast is gonna be a part of that DVD, because again, he strikes out there.
26:01 --> 26:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Where do we want to go?
26:02 --> 26:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Do we want to go to pitchers now?
26:04 --> 26:06 [SPEAKER_03]: We want to highlight.
26:06 --> 26:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say we should probably give all the starters some serious love.
26:09 --> 26:11 [SPEAKER_03]: We should probably, I have one more hitter actually, sorry.
26:11 --> 26:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.
26:12 --> 26:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Josh Nailer.
26:14 --> 26:14 [SPEAKER_03]: Dude.
26:14 --> 26:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Let me come on.
26:18 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_03]: It lagged.
26:18 --> 26:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Jack Swingdouble was one of the most electric things I've ever seen.
26:22 --> 26:24 [SPEAKER_03]: And then stealing third off of school.
26:26 --> 26:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say it again.
26:28 --> 26:31 [SPEAKER_01]: There are literally this many excuses for those watching on YouTube.
26:31 --> 26:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm holding up a zero.
26:33 --> 26:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say it for people listening.
26:34 --> 26:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Zero excuses to not bring Josh Nailer back.
26:39 --> 26:40 [SPEAKER_01]: He has to be back here.
26:40 --> 26:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He has to be a long-term plan.
26:42 --> 26:43 [SPEAKER_01]: He cannot be in another uniform.
26:44 --> 26:44 [SPEAKER_01]: He cannot.
26:45 --> 26:45 [SPEAKER_01]: He is too important.
26:46 --> 26:47 [SPEAKER_01]: The clubhouse likes him too much.
26:47 --> 26:49 [SPEAKER_01]: He's meant too much to the team in such a short amount of time.
26:50 --> 26:51 [SPEAKER_01]: He cannot go anywhere else.
26:52 --> 26:53 [SPEAKER_01]: You have got to keep him here.
26:54 --> 26:56 [SPEAKER_03]: He ends to Mitch Garver too.
26:57 --> 27:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Against the start against the left, the best left in the league has one job to do.
27:03 --> 27:06 [SPEAKER_03]: One, produce something offensively.
27:07 --> 27:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't strike out.
27:08 --> 27:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Do some net positive against Terrick Scooble.
27:12 --> 27:15 [SPEAKER_03]: The one opportunity he got, he came through.
27:15 --> 27:18 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a huge run, huge run.
27:18 --> 27:20 [SPEAKER_03]: That the mayors do not win this game without.
27:22 --> 27:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, some people get mad when they see Garver in the lineup, and they don't look at the match-ups all the time.
27:26 --> 27:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Not everybody, just some people you see it online sometimes, but guys, that's why he's in there.
27:31 --> 27:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying Garver absolutely destroys lefties.
27:35 --> 27:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying he's Babe Ruth against lefties, but he hits lefties perfectly well.
27:39 --> 27:40 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why he was in there today.
27:41 --> 27:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And just like Leo Rivas, I'll say it about Mitch Garver.
27:45 --> 27:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Mitch Garver doesn't do that.
27:46 --> 27:48 [SPEAKER_01]: We're sitting here talking about a loss.
27:48 --> 27:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Mitch Garver, it was, I mean, it feels like Eons ago at this point.
27:52 --> 28:00 [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like it was literally in a different era of the earth that Mitch Garver hit that sack fly because so much times passed since then from till right now.
28:01 --> 28:05 [SPEAKER_01]: But if Mitch Garver does not do that, the mariners are,
28:06 --> 28:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Mariners are going to Cabo right now.
28:07 --> 28:13 [SPEAKER_01]: If Mitch Garber doesn't hit that sack fly, that was so clutch and it battered so much.
28:13 --> 28:14 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why he was in there.
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28:53 --> 29:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Logan Gilbert and Louise Castillo out of the bullpen deserve every bit of credit you could possibly ask really I mean every Mariners bullpen arm that came in after Gabe Spire in some which way possible.
29:09 --> 29:11 [SPEAKER_03]: were enormous in keeping this close.
29:12 --> 29:24 [SPEAKER_03]: The difference between what the mariners were offering at a their pole pin and the tigers were offering at a theirs and the ultimate difference in extra innings is that the drop-off was not as significant if there was any drop-off at all between the arms coming in.
29:25 --> 29:28 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it was pretty clear again as soon as Troy Milton went out for the tigers.
29:29 --> 29:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Detroit had this huge drop in picture effect of this and their ability to miss paths.
29:35 --> 29:52 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners man, I mean, they go from Brash and Muñoz who are insane and great and put in high pressure and had to throw a lot and they chewed through it, no problem to an extra brash ending in a third for Muñoz and then here comes Logan.
29:53 --> 29:58 [SPEAKER_03]: His first ever relief appearance out of the bullpen was disgusting.
30:00 --> 30:08 [SPEAKER_03]: wipes through the tigers and then Edward Bizarro comes out and doesn't just throw two innings like looking over.
30:08 --> 30:10 [SPEAKER_03]: He throws two in two thirds innings.
30:10 --> 30:12 [SPEAKER_01]: He throws four tigers.
30:12 --> 30:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when he went back out there for his third inning of work,
30:17 --> 30:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Man, I was getting nervous.
30:18 --> 30:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, this is a lot of pitches to make Edward Bizarre out throw.
30:22 --> 30:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I was worried I didn't have that much left in the tank and who could blame him?
30:24 --> 30:27 [SPEAKER_01]: He was a reliever with throwing two great innings already.
30:28 --> 30:30 [SPEAKER_01]: But he'd stuck through it, man.
30:30 --> 30:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And then again, when the time came and they needed to get him out of the game after the Dylan Dingler double.
30:35 --> 30:38 [SPEAKER_01]: went to Louise Castillo who again just chalk it up.
30:38 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a theme stepped the hell up.
30:42 --> 30:49 [SPEAKER_01]: He got in there was unfazed and shot it down and only through 15 pitches.
30:49 --> 30:58 [SPEAKER_03]: So as we have a guess on the ALCS game on starter, I believe it's Bryce Miller and I think towards some jury to
31:00 --> 31:27 [SPEAKER_01]: to put the exact quote I was the already said that I think so they said it on the post game well I'll tell you this we might get I mean not might we will get a little more into some a else yes talk here in a few minutes I'll tell you who I think's now going to be on the roster is our guy Logan Evans yeah I can't confirm that I don't know for sure but you look at that game one the Mariners are going to need innings they are really gonna need innings
31:28 --> 31:32 [SPEAKER_01]: in game one because even Bryce Miller's only going to be on three days rest he will not be on full rest.
31:33 --> 31:44 [SPEAKER_01]: So you pair with you pair that with the fact that I don't know how Edward Bazardo could possibly be available for game one after throwing 40 pitches and throwing in every game of the Tiger series.
31:44 --> 31:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I am guessing he will be down for that game.
31:48 --> 31:55 [SPEAKER_01]: The other guys will probably be available but regardless of Bryce only goes three even four you've got to cover some innings and yeah Emerson Hancock could do some of that.
31:56 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_01]: but they may view Emerson as a one-in-and-guy at this point where Logan Evans can throw in some bulk.
32:03 --> 32:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I would not be shocked at all to see Logan Evans on the ALCS roster.
32:08 --> 32:09 [SPEAKER_03]: And you just swath him out for Luke Jackson.
32:10 --> 32:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
32:11 --> 32:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Luke Jackson.
32:12 --> 32:13 [SPEAKER_03]: He threw once in a series.
32:13 --> 32:14 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and mop up duty.
32:14 --> 32:15 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah.
32:15 --> 32:17 [SPEAKER_03]: So you could put Logan Evans in there.
32:17 --> 32:20 [SPEAKER_03]: And now Logan's not going to get some glamorous position they need out.
32:21 --> 32:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Frankly, when you have a 15-ending game before game one of the ALCS, you are going to need innings.
32:27 --> 32:28 [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to need outs.
32:28 --> 32:32 [SPEAKER_03]: Now, there's going to be some of the things the mayor is going to need to do to win that game and win that series.
32:32 --> 32:33 [SPEAKER_03]: What you talk about that in a little bit.
32:33 --> 32:40 [SPEAKER_03]: But yes, I see, I see a definitely door opening for Logan Evans, especially to pitch during game one.
32:40 --> 32:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Why I brought up Luis's pitch count?
32:42 --> 32:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Because I would almost guarantee he starts game two.
32:45 --> 32:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Almost certainly.
32:46 --> 32:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
32:46 --> 32:48 [SPEAKER_03]: And then you could do
32:49 --> 33:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I'll get to the entry news here on a second that Jerry DePoto also talked about But then you could do Logan game three and War Kirby game four hopefully by game four Brian who's ready.
33:02 --> 33:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah That gives you that gives you options.
33:05 --> 33:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Then the next time you come around the rotation Bryce Miller's not starting so Kirby starts and then you flip back around the Castillo
33:13 --> 33:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then it would essentially go like this.
33:15 --> 33:19 [SPEAKER_01]: If the series were to go seven games, I think it would look like this, tentatively.
33:20 --> 33:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Price game one, Castillo game two, Gilbert game three, if he's ready to go Brian Wu game four.
33:26 --> 33:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Game 5 will be Kirby, Game 6 would be Castillo, Game 7 would be Logan and Logan and everyone else.
33:35 --> 33:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Logan and Wu probably, I bet you Wu grows a decent amount of innings if Logan throws Game 7, something like that, something like that, right?
33:42 --> 33:42 [SPEAKER_01]: So.
33:44 --> 33:53 [SPEAKER_03]: But that news is great to hear because the Mariners just think what the Mariners did this series, they beat the best pitcher and baseball twice without their best pitcher.
33:54 --> 33:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Crazy.
33:55 --> 33:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, man, you said the Mariners could win a series without Brian Wu.
33:58 --> 34:05 [SPEAKER_01]: They did, it took the title of the game, everything, the win that series, but they did win a series without Brian Wu.
34:05 --> 34:09 [SPEAKER_01]: You did also say they can't win a world series without him, and that is true.
34:09 --> 34:11 [SPEAKER_01]: He threw a bullpen here before game five.
34:11 --> 34:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully that means he's on the right track and he's getting close.
34:13 --> 34:22 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know exactly what the situation's going to be, but they're going to have to make a decision on the roster for the ALCS, which cannot be changed unless there's an injury.
34:24 --> 34:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I bet you Brian Wu's put on the roster.
34:26 --> 34:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Will he be ready?
34:27 --> 34:27 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
34:27 --> 34:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I bet you at least for the potential.
34:31 --> 34:32 [SPEAKER_01]: He's put on the roster.
34:33 --> 34:35 [SPEAKER_03]: So, do you have any more?
34:35 --> 34:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Anything else with this series or should we talk some blu-jays?
34:37 --> 34:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's do one more thing.
34:40 --> 34:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Because, okay, I think we've hit on a lot.
34:41 --> 34:42 [SPEAKER_01]: We've hit on.
34:43 --> 34:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Placo, we've hit on Garver, we've hit on Rivas, we've hit on all the pitchers.
34:46 --> 34:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, we didn't really give enough credit to George Kirby.
34:49 --> 34:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see that for a second, who will George?
34:51 --> 34:53 [SPEAKER_01]: George Dominant for five innings.
34:53 --> 34:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, they pull them in the right spot.
34:55 --> 35:01 [SPEAKER_01]: But going up against the best in the world in Terriq's scubal, Kirby absolutely dealt.
35:01 --> 35:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Pitch count was low, wasn't working into trouble, absolutely punching guys out.
35:06 --> 35:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he was nails, nails.
35:10 --> 35:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Everything you wanted from him better he was good and game one.
35:12 --> 35:15 [SPEAKER_01]: He was better now Yeah, he was better and get five.
35:15 --> 35:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was I mean, I don't even know how much there's to say about him other than you kind of talked about it already He was not front hip and a lot of two seamers He was throwing a lot of sliders and he was throwing a lot off-speed It was clearly the plan.
35:29 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_01]: He executed it the rest of the staff executed it
35:32 --> 35:33 [SPEAKER_03]: And it worked.
35:33 --> 35:34 [SPEAKER_03]: He's not phased.
35:34 --> 35:35 [SPEAKER_03]: That dude's a big gay picture.
35:35 --> 35:36 [SPEAKER_03]: He's not phased.
35:36 --> 35:42 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we've got now three starts from him in the postseason and he's been fucking on it every single time.
35:43 --> 35:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And add in one inning out of the bullpen to close out a wildcard series.
35:48 --> 35:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Nails.
35:49 --> 35:53 [SPEAKER_03]: It saves to say they made the right decision starting him instead of bringing him out of the bullpen.
35:53 --> 35:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Which I was the right call.
35:54 --> 35:55 [SPEAKER_03]: No doubt.
35:55 --> 35:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Based on what we saw.
35:56 --> 35:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
35:57 --> 35:59 [SPEAKER_01]: The last thing and then we can get to some ALCS talk.
36:00 --> 36:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, we have been as critical of him, especially in this series as you can probably draw up.
36:05 --> 36:11 [SPEAKER_01]: We know we were not happy with how game one went, but we got to give credit to Dan Wilson Man.
36:12 --> 36:14 [SPEAKER_01]: He really managed his ass off in that game.
36:15 --> 36:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Every right button was pushed, even the game's fire thing.
36:17 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, right process, result wasn't great.
36:20 --> 36:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Dan pushed every right button in this game again to have this the guts to pull out cams own and go to Rivas and then to go to Brash when you did after Kirby and Spire and have Brash throw nearly 30 pitches and then go to Munoz who by the way was a little shaky to get that final out of the eighth and I thought once that happened I thought to myself I don't know if he has it tonight they may just go to Logan right here
36:46 --> 36:59 [SPEAKER_01]: No, Dan wanted to get another ending out of Munoz, he got it, then went to Logan for two in the 10th, and then goes to Bizarro, and then goes to Castillo, and every guy was placed in every perfect spot, and he made the right decisions off the bench with the pinch hitters.
37:01 --> 37:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Hell, like hell of a hat tip to him, because he seriously managed a hell of a game.
37:06 --> 37:10 [SPEAKER_01]: He outmanaged AJ Hinch, who is a mastermind of an in-game manager.
37:11 --> 37:12 [SPEAKER_01]: He's always on this stuff.
37:13 --> 37:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Dan Wilson outmanaged him and and serious credit and typically cab to him there were some instances in the series where Dan Wilson left his guys in too long and there are some instances where some people think that he pulls guys too quickly or makes pinch hitting calls too quickly today was the right balance today was the right balance like every every call you said on the pitching side yeah and then the Leo Reeves thing he was right you push that button to get a result
37:40 --> 37:41 [SPEAKER_03]: And what was the result?
37:42 --> 37:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, the Mariners won.
37:44 --> 37:44 [SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
37:44 --> 37:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Leo, touch it.
37:45 --> 37:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Leo, touch it.
37:46 --> 37:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Leo, touch it.
37:48 --> 37:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Boom.
37:49 --> 37:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so shout out to Dan Wilson.
37:50 --> 37:50 [SPEAKER_03]: That was great.
37:51 --> 37:55 [SPEAKER_03]: I loved seeing the video of him after he clearly was feeling it throughout that game.
37:55 --> 38:04 [SPEAKER_03]: I think he was just a stress as the rest of us as he should be the camera was on him as that ball gets it and the outfit will just jump up into the arrow hands in the air like this.
38:04 --> 38:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Two hands up given everyone big hugs celebrating you could hear it in his voice in the post game.
38:10 --> 38:10 [SPEAKER_03]: It was great.
38:10 --> 38:12 [SPEAKER_03]: It was really really good stuff.
38:12 --> 38:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone's having a good time.
38:13 --> 38:14 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
38:14 --> 38:20 [SPEAKER_03]: See, we're sitting here at 12, it's now 12, 10 in the morning on Saturday, recording this podcast.
38:20 --> 38:23 [SPEAKER_03]: I think the rest of Seattle is out, getting blidderantly drunk right now.
38:24 --> 38:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And if we didn't have a podcast to get out for all the people, we'd probably be out too.
38:29 --> 38:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Probably.
38:30 --> 38:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Probably.
38:30 --> 38:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, listen, we're dead on energy, but it's a hell of a night to celebrate.
38:36 --> 38:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Let me tell you a little red bull can fix.
38:37 --> 38:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
38:38 --> 38:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
38:38 --> 38:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I mean, I...
38:41 --> 38:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I was ready to throw up for over two days, and every inning of that game kept dragging on, I felt physically unwell, like I'm not kidding, like by extra innings 11, 12, 13, etc.
38:54 --> 39:07 [SPEAKER_01]: My legs hurt, legitimately like felt sore, my arms are shaking, I had a headache, I still felt like I was gonna throw up, I was physically unwell watching that game.
39:09 --> 39:24 [SPEAKER_01]: follow end of it, every just piece of positive emotion just absolutely pouring through me and stress relieved and it was amazing, I again, like everybody's floating on air tonight as they should be.
39:25 --> 39:28 [SPEAKER_03]: And I was the opposite pre-game but during the game alone I were both both in hell.
39:31 --> 39:33 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just the fact it was Terrick Scooble.
39:34 --> 39:37 [SPEAKER_01]: If it had been anybody else for the Tigers, maybe it would have felt a little different.
39:37 --> 39:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just the fact it was Scooble had such this cloud hanging over.
39:42 --> 39:44 [SPEAKER_01]: But man, did they take a to him?
39:44 --> 39:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Did they do just enough?
39:46 --> 39:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Send themselves into the, I can't stop saying it.
39:49 --> 39:51 [SPEAKER_01]: A-L-C-S.
39:51 --> 40:00 [SPEAKER_01]: They're one of the four final teams standing, along with the Dodgers, the Blue Jays, and one of the Cubs or Brewers, we'll see you on Saturday.
40:01 --> 40:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk a little bit about the Blue Jays.
40:03 --> 40:06 [SPEAKER_03]: We touched on them a little bit before the postseason started.
40:06 --> 40:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's my broad overview of the Toronto Blue Jays before we dive in a little deeper.
40:12 --> 40:14 [SPEAKER_03]: They crushed at the plate.
40:15 --> 40:16 [SPEAKER_03]: their pitching is kind of mid.
40:17 --> 40:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Both starters and bullpen.
40:20 --> 40:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Where would you like to go specifically off of here?
40:22 --> 40:24 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll just note for their series.
40:25 --> 40:30 [SPEAKER_03]: They had a pretty good hitting series against the Yankees and pretty easily outclass them in four games.
40:30 --> 40:32 [SPEAKER_03]: The Blue Jays scored 10, 13,
40:44 --> 40:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean he had a hell of a series, capped off with an all time quote on the Fox post game show.
40:49 --> 40:52 [SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, he's lose.
40:52 --> 40:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's, Vlad is pretty locked in right now.
40:55 --> 40:58 [SPEAKER_01]: So that is gonna be a tough battle.
40:59 --> 41:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Do we have a boba shut status yet?
41:01 --> 41:03 [SPEAKER_03]: I was just about to look.
41:04 --> 41:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Meanwhile, while you're looking, even past Vlad, a George springer is hit like an MVP this year.
41:08 --> 41:10 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to win the MVP, but he's hit like it.
41:10 --> 41:16 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got a 959 OPS, he's got a 165 OPS plus and like TJ said, whole lineup.
41:17 --> 41:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Mashes.
41:18 --> 41:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Kirk's had a great year and you don't need to tell you about it.
41:22 --> 41:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody, yeah.
41:23 --> 41:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Clint's been okay, but I think he just had a good postseason.
41:26 --> 41:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think he just had a good ALDS if I have that right.
41:29 --> 41:31 [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, bar show that matters now.
41:33 --> 41:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Varsho's hit and Davis nighters hit and again springers hit like an MVP and add some bargers had a good year it's.
41:39 --> 41:41 [SPEAKER_01]: That is a tough line up to go against.
41:41 --> 41:48 [SPEAKER_01]: But again, if you're going to get to the blue jays, it's going to be a little different than the tigers where the blue jays will not have a tarry scuba.
41:48 --> 41:53 [SPEAKER_01]: There is not going to be an ace just hanging over you, like a dark cloud that you have to worry about every time out.
41:54 --> 41:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, let's say they don't have good pictures.
41:56 --> 41:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Kevin Gosman, you know, can dial it up.
41:58 --> 42:03 [SPEAKER_01]: You know that somebody like Shane Bieber can dial it up, even if his playoff outing wasn't great.
42:04 --> 42:05 [SPEAKER_01]: They are going to have good pictures.
42:06 --> 42:08 [SPEAKER_01]: they just don't have that elite ace.
42:09 --> 42:14 [SPEAKER_01]: So in that way, it will be a little different for the Mariners than having a face-to-face scuba.
42:14 --> 42:16 [SPEAKER_03]: And they don't really have the depth either.
42:16 --> 42:19 [SPEAKER_03]: There's second pitcher, secondless pitcher in this playoff rotation is a rookie.
42:20 --> 42:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Trace average.
42:21 --> 42:22 [SPEAKER_03]: He's pitching in college last year.
42:23 --> 42:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he's been really good.
42:24 --> 42:24 [SPEAKER_01]: We want it.
42:25 --> 42:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I know that that is going to be a fascinating story to watch over the next few years.
42:29 --> 42:35 [SPEAKER_01]: The Jorangelow vs. Trey Savage, because the Mariners said they wanted Jorangelow who look at a really good year.
42:36 --> 42:38 [SPEAKER_01]: But it'll just be an interesting story to watch.
42:38 --> 42:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Story for another day though.
42:39 --> 42:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Point being, for the Blue Jays, you're likely going to see Gauzman, you will see Bieber, you will see a Savage likely, and probably one other.
42:51 --> 42:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Major, but the blue jays through a bullpen game in game four against the Yankees, which is weird because again, Bassett, Barrios.
42:59 --> 43:01 [SPEAKER_03]: They didn't have Bassett for that round.
43:01 --> 43:02 [SPEAKER_03]: I see hurt.
43:02 --> 43:03 [SPEAKER_03]: I think so.
43:04 --> 43:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Say.
43:06 --> 43:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, Barrios hasn't been great.
43:08 --> 43:09 [SPEAKER_03]: I know.
43:09 --> 43:12 [SPEAKER_03]: And not like Bieber got Bieber lasted two and two
43:17 --> 43:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Bassett and Barrios are on the aisle.
43:20 --> 43:27 [SPEAKER_01]: So you're right, it's gonna be Gauzman, it's gonna be Savage, it's gonna be, you have to do that.
43:28 --> 43:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, sorry, sorry, Shane Bieber, those three, and then we'll say.
43:31 --> 43:32 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll see how good Shane Bieber is.
43:33 --> 43:37 [SPEAKER_03]: This remember, this is Shane Bieber coming off of Tommy John.
43:38 --> 43:42 [SPEAKER_03]: And again, in that first place I've started, he wasn't, he wasn't great, I was just on page.
43:42 --> 43:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
43:43 --> 43:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And while you're looking at that,
43:46 --> 43:47 [SPEAKER_01]: the blues is bullpen.
43:47 --> 43:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd say it's similar to the tigers.
43:49 --> 43:52 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't have anybody in that bullpen that is just a dog.
43:52 --> 43:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you got something?
43:55 --> 43:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, hard hit rate of almost 50% this year.
43:59 --> 44:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
44:00 --> 44:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
44:01 --> 44:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, not good.
44:02 --> 44:04 [SPEAKER_03]: It's, it has not been perfect for Shane Bieber this year.
44:04 --> 44:05 [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of blue.
44:05 --> 44:05 [SPEAKER_03]: No.
44:06 --> 44:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, gets hit hard, barrel the lot.
44:08 --> 44:11 [SPEAKER_03]: He does get a lot of ground ball still strikes out a solid amount of batters.
44:11 --> 44:16 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a solid amount of way of but he gets hit pretty hard.
44:17 --> 44:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, there's, yeah, the depth of this blue jays of this blue jays rotation and both end are really not.
44:26 --> 44:27 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not very good.
44:27 --> 44:29 [SPEAKER_03]: What the Blue Jays do have an advantage of is rest.
44:29 --> 44:32 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners are going to be taxed as hell going into that game one.
44:33 --> 44:34 [SPEAKER_03]: The Blue Jays are not.
44:34 --> 44:36 [SPEAKER_03]: That's going to level the playing field a little bit.
44:37 --> 44:41 [SPEAKER_03]: And unfortunately, in a seven game series, you can't just wait to game three to watch that even out.
44:41 --> 44:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Like the Mariners and those first two games, or they need to make their offense to make up the gap and rest from the Mariners pitching staff to the Blue Jays.
44:51 --> 44:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, blue jays have been off since Wednesday there's no doubt about it.
44:55 --> 45:04 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no doubt But then you start to look at the blue jays bullpen as we've already highlighted their starters and It's similar to the tigers.
45:04 --> 45:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like where they have some arms that are good They don't have anybody that's absolutely gonna scare you either so when you look up and down
45:13 --> 45:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they're both in was a lot better when the Mariners saw them in Seattle earlier in the year.
45:17 --> 45:20 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of guys were pitching better at that point than where it is now.
45:21 --> 45:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Brayton Fisher has been good, Brennan little has been good, Yary L. Rodriguez has been good, but, again, like Jeff Hoffman was their closer this year.
45:30 --> 45:33 [SPEAKER_01]: He had a tough year, may some fluidity was thrown while earlier in the year.
45:33 --> 45:34 [SPEAKER_01]: He had a tough year.
45:35 --> 45:38 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not the world's most perfect bullpen.
45:38 --> 45:39 [SPEAKER_01]: There are weak spots.
45:40 --> 45:43 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's nobody in that bullpen that is overly dominant.
45:43 --> 45:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, there are guys that are good, like Fisher, like little, like some others, but not overly dominant.
45:49 --> 45:52 [SPEAKER_01]: The key with the blue jays here, it's gonna be the exact opposite of the Tigers.
45:52 --> 45:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Where it is gonna be a lineup that is really long and really good.
45:57 --> 46:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And the Mariners are gonna have to lock in very, very much so.
46:02 --> 46:03 [SPEAKER_01]: to go toe to toe with those guys.
46:04 --> 46:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Now hopefully the offense can muster some more runs off.
46:07 --> 46:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, a rotation that's not as strong as having to see scuba twice in five games and a bullpen that's probably similar to what Tiger's is.
46:14 --> 46:16 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, offense is the key.
46:17 --> 46:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Shudding down the obvents is the key.
46:19 --> 46:22 [SPEAKER_03]: I will not be saying the Blue Jay's lineup is full of bombs.
46:23 --> 46:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Like a day with the Tigers.
46:24 --> 46:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I would hope not.
46:26 --> 46:28 [SPEAKER_03]: That's going to be a big key difference for me.
46:29 --> 46:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh-huh.
46:29 --> 46:30 [SPEAKER_03]: That like, that is it right there.
46:31 --> 46:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, the stress will be swapped from facing scuba to how the world the murders are going to get the final nine outs of a game they lead.
46:40 --> 46:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the tiger is no problem.
46:42 --> 46:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, Parker Maddo's coming up to the plate.
46:44 --> 46:44 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like,
46:46 --> 46:46 [SPEAKER_03]: he's not getting ahead.
46:47 --> 46:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, um, I want to, there's the one last key difference of this series Lyle.
46:54 --> 46:58 [SPEAKER_03]: If we need a gate 14 Marine Lair pod, a battle royale.
46:58 --> 47:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I was going to take tiebreaker.
47:00 --> 47:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to save the tweet till the morning.
47:02 --> 47:10 [SPEAKER_01]: We can put it out in the morning, but are we ready for an ALCS to go back and forth with our friends over at gate 14 and Johnny
47:15 --> 47:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm ready.
47:16 --> 47:20 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Johnny is never got any meaningful games against Johnny Junter.
47:20 --> 47:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's not true.
47:21 --> 47:24 [SPEAKER_01]: The 2022 AL, wildcar game.
47:24 --> 47:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we didn't exist.
47:26 --> 47:26 [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
47:26 --> 47:27 [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't exist.
47:27 --> 47:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think gate 14 was very early on, if I remember that.
47:30 --> 47:31 [SPEAKER_01]: If I remember that, right, into that point.
47:32 --> 47:36 [SPEAKER_01]: But, oh, Johnny is going to be unhinged during this series.
47:38 --> 47:40 [SPEAKER_03]: On hand, you can have to chirp him.
47:40 --> 47:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Also, I want to give a shout out to our friend Troy up in BC, who always make sure to let us know whenever there's some Mariners, um, Mariners, Blue Jays overlap.
47:49 --> 47:59 [SPEAKER_03]: He's been on our social channels every time the Blue Jays come except for this year, every single time the Blue Jays are here in town and the first person to send us a message.
48:00 --> 48:03 [SPEAKER_03]: And if everyone, we know as soon as that walkoff hit, Troy.
48:04 --> 48:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
48:06 --> 48:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Very famous.
48:07 --> 48:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Same that the Mariners are bombs, see you guys in the series.
48:11 --> 48:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Also I just looked it up.
48:13 --> 48:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I was pretty sure that I was right with this and the numbers back it up.
48:16 --> 48:17 [SPEAKER_01]: By bullpenny R.A.
48:17 --> 48:23 [SPEAKER_01]: this year, the Tiger's bullpen sits at 17 in the league.
48:23 --> 48:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Blue J said it's 16.
48:25 --> 48:27 [SPEAKER_01]: So pretty similar bullpenes, where they're very average.
48:28 --> 48:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
48:29 --> 48:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Well.
48:30 --> 48:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Good to know.
48:31 --> 48:59 [SPEAKER_01]: area average and in terms of k per nine so the blue jays are going to strike a lot of guys out in the bullpen but they will give up some runs a speak of strikeouts that line up strikes out the least of any line up in baseball yeah it's going to be a really tough series the blue jays are very good there's a reason they're the one seed there's a reason their offense is absolutely loaded it's gonna be a tough series you know what man the mariners are here they made it they're in they did it and they've got a chance to go to the world fucking series
49:02 --> 49:06 [SPEAKER_01]: They've got a chance finally feels real finally.
49:07 --> 49:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe we're sitting here doing that.
49:09 --> 49:15 [SPEAKER_03]: It's okay Before we sign off here dog, what's your gut feeling on this series?
49:17 --> 49:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the maras are really gonna have to come to play there they are behind with their rotational schedule they have to use a lot of guys to get here and
49:29 --> 49:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, game one is going to be a dog fight and having to find a way to cover some innings and also keep yourself in the game.
49:40 --> 49:45 [SPEAKER_01]: But if they can pitch, they've got a chance and also look for as good as the Blue Jays offense has been.
49:46 --> 49:52 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners we know are a talented offensive team, and they just had a really, really tough offensive series.
49:53 --> 49:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Shouldn't some of that swing back their way at some point?
49:56 --> 49:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can do.
49:56 --> 49:58 [SPEAKER_01]: We're a couple of good offensive games.
49:58 --> 49:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I would hope so.
49:59 --> 50:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Most of those stats we've lauded the Blue Js4 in terms of scoring, the Mariners are up there too.
50:03 --> 50:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, the Mariners were a top five offensive league this year.
50:07 --> 50:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, the Blue Js are a really good team.
50:10 --> 50:11 [SPEAKER_01]: This series will not be easy.
50:12 --> 50:13 [SPEAKER_01]: but it doesn't mean the Mariners can't hang with them.
50:14 --> 50:15 [SPEAKER_01]: That's how I'm feeling.
50:15 --> 50:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the Blue Jays will probably be favored and rightfully so, but the Mariners can hang with them.
50:22 --> 50:26 [SPEAKER_03]: And if any of you remember from the Wildcard series, playing at the Roger Center can be hell.
50:27 --> 50:28 [SPEAKER_03]: It's loud in there.
50:29 --> 50:31 [SPEAKER_03]: So the guys got a, they got a state focus.
50:31 --> 50:32 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not that Detroit cloud up.
50:33 --> 50:33 [SPEAKER_03]: That's Detroit Crattles.
50:33 --> 50:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Tell you that.
50:35 --> 50:37 [SPEAKER_03]: I was not that impressed by the Detroit crowd.
50:37 --> 50:38 [SPEAKER_03]: I was not right there.
50:38 --> 50:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Man, and people were pissed off and destroyed about our take, but they need a roof.
50:43 --> 50:46 [SPEAKER_03]: They were, did you go back and reply to any of them now?
50:47 --> 50:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm about to, I didn't want it to get in the way of some of our other social posts, but tomorrow morning, I might do a couple.
50:53 --> 51:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Did you notice there was there was one dude one tiger's fan was like 32 followers who didn't like the fact I posted something optimistic about the Mariners this morning.
51:02 --> 51:06 [SPEAKER_03]: I saw this guy's guaranteed a Mariners win.
51:09 --> 51:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I made sure to circle back here's see here's something we've never gotten to do as Mariners fans Dunk on other fan bases We're usually a little off-ing stock and now we can actually Rightfully dunk on other fan bases and now we got to the Astros and the Tigers.
51:25 --> 51:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's make it a third the blue chase
51:29 --> 51:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, our buddies over at K-14 are gonna be something else in this series.
51:33 --> 51:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I know it, but Anyway, I cannot wait and we got a quick turn around game one of the else's on Sunday So it's everybody take a day and a half to get ready.
51:43 --> 51:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they'll be right back at it on Sunday night sleep tomorrow Yes, I know I will I need it very bad
51:51 --> 51:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I hope everybody's celebrating.
51:54 --> 51:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody deserves this one.
51:56 --> 51:58 [SPEAKER_01]: So much, everybody.
51:58 --> 52:01 [SPEAKER_01]: So this was about as fun a podcast as I think we've ever recorded.
52:02 --> 52:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And I hope it's about as fun as the one as you've ever listened to because so far.
52:06 --> 52:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So far, because right now, the vibes couldn't be higher in the city of Seattle.
52:10 --> 52:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Shout out to Jorge Polanco.
52:12 --> 52:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody better let that man buy his own meal for a long time, anywhere.
52:17 --> 52:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Anywhere.
52:18 --> 52:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, that just about wraps up this edition of the Marine Lair podcast.
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