Lyle and TJ catch up on the weekend and how the landscape continues to trend toward the greatest Seattle sports year ever (2:30). They then react to the news of Mariners broadcaster Rick Rizzs announcing his retirement after the 2026 season, and what it means for the booth going forward (20:34).
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00:00 --> 00:07 [SPEAKER_00]: But with episode number 356 of the Marine Lair podcast, we'll react to Rick Riz announcing his retirement after the 2026 season.
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01:09 --> 01:28 [SPEAKER_00]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just baseball podcast network recording here on Tuesday evening January 27th We didn't get to do it for Monday's episode because we recorded that one the day before certain big games happened on Saturday So I'm gonna do it right now based off what I watched on Sunday
01:28 --> 01:42 [SPEAKER_00]: If you are holding out to name this greatest Seattle sports year of all time, do to certain achievements required to happen, I'm just going to get out in front of it for you right now speaking as a fan of all Seattle sports.
01:42 --> 01:50 [SPEAKER_00]: While I'm guaranteeing on this podcast right now, it is the greatest Seattle sports year of all time, no matter your qualifications.
01:51 --> 01:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, you're already there, you are already there.
01:54 --> 01:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Now notice I'm not saying specific, anything specific.
01:57 --> 01:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not here to jinx anything.
01:59 --> 02:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, I'm not jinx anything.
02:01 --> 02:03 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not predicting winners or losers.
02:04 --> 02:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just assuring something of what I believed a month ago that I believe even more now.
02:11 --> 02:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Cause come on people.
02:14 --> 02:18 [SPEAKER_01]: TJ doesn't wanna say out loud that he thinks the Patriots are cupcakes.
02:19 --> 02:46 [SPEAKER_01]: he doesn't want to say or they I mean they are frauds but anything can happen anything can happen but man you should go look at that tweet that was put out here on Tuesday about the patriot's schedule which has been a thing all year but it basically consists of all fired coaches the NFC south i mean it is it really is remarkable when i have it ready yeah in order week one patriot's schedule week one fire coach
02:46 --> 03:10 [SPEAKER_00]: We too, Fire Coach, Week 3, Fire Coach, Week 4, NFC South, Week 5, Fire Coach, Week 6, NFC South, Week 7, Fire Coach, Week 8, Fire Coach, Week 9, Fire Coach, Week 10, NFC South, 10 Weeks We're in here, Week 11, Jets, Week 12, Bengals,
03:11 --> 03:20 [SPEAKER_00]: week 13 fired head coach week 15 fired head coach in a by week 14 week 16 fired head coach week 17 jets week 18 fired head coach.
03:20 --> 03:21 [SPEAKER_00]: That's incredible.
03:22 --> 03:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Then paired with a mid-chargers team, a Texan team with a non-existent offense and a Broncos team with a backup quarterback playing a second half of a sport that let's be honest was not football.
03:35 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_01]: What the what the Patriots and Broncos played in was not football.
03:39 --> 03:42 [SPEAKER_00]: This is me saying I feel really confident Sunday.
03:43 --> 03:43 [SPEAKER_01]: next Sunday.
03:43 --> 03:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I do too.
03:44 --> 03:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Next next Sunday.
03:45 --> 03:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, because this Sunday will be a fanfest.
03:48 --> 03:52 [SPEAKER_01]: We will, which by the way, if you're going to either day of fanfest Saturday or Sunday, please come find us.
03:52 --> 03:57 [SPEAKER_01]: You guys, we would genuinely love to talk to as many possible people as we can while a fanfest.
03:57 --> 03:59 [SPEAKER_01]: We're definitely going to try to do some fan content while we're there.
04:00 --> 04:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you got a trivia you want to do, if you got it, take you want to rip off.
04:04 --> 04:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're certainly going to have stuff cute out for people.
04:06 --> 04:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to get on the mic at fanfest or you just want to come
04:11 --> 04:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Find us, send us a DM, please.
04:13 --> 04:18 [SPEAKER_01]: That is, we're going to be there for a lot of reasons, but that is a huge reason why we're there is to talk to a bunch of you guys.
04:18 --> 04:20 [SPEAKER_01]: So yes, this weekend, we will be a fan fest.
04:21 --> 04:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Next weekend, if anybody happens to be traveling out for it, I decided this full-send it, I did, because I'm going to the Super Bowl.
04:30 --> 04:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to the Super Bowl.
04:32 --> 04:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Are we getting a Marine Lair pod from Santa Clara?
04:37 --> 04:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Probably not quite.
04:38 --> 04:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Although if somebody wants to get on the mic and Santa Clara, they're welcome to also, because I'm guessing there's going to be some Mariners fans that are also Seahawks fans that are going to fly out for this.
04:47 --> 04:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Now I will say, I am not paying the $7 get in fee to go to this Super Bowl.
04:54 --> 05:05 [SPEAKER_01]: My brother and I got very, very lucky where we got face value deals on some tickets that we're about as good of a deal as you'll ever find to go to the Super Bowl.
05:05 --> 05:06 [SPEAKER_01]: They are not free.
05:06 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going for free by any means, but it's about as good a deal as you'll ever find.
05:10 --> 05:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I've never been to a Super Bowl.
05:11 --> 05:14 [SPEAKER_01]: It's on my bucket list to go to a Super Bowl and it's our own team playing.
05:15 --> 05:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, this is about as good a chance as you're gonna get and it's in a West Coast city.
05:19 --> 05:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sensing a conundrum here from a content perspective.
05:22 --> 05:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you'll have the mic down there.
05:24 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_00]: We might get some content.
05:25 --> 05:34 [SPEAKER_00]: You might, if you run into a whole pack of marinara fans, you want to do a take, like great, like that would be sick.
05:34 --> 05:43 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm thinking about this, like the dichotomy, like the just the range of things that can happen from a content perspective to Sundays from now.
05:43 --> 05:47 [SPEAKER_00]: It's Super Bowl Sunday, if they win,
05:48 --> 06:17 [SPEAKER_00]: we obviously want to celebrate like everyone wants to celebrate it's a freaking championship of course we want to celebrate would be pretty epic to tape tape show after it would be we won't just weren't we've already planted out we're going to try to record pretty much everything ahead of time because ultimately this is a baseball podcast and if there's a brand and donovan trade of course will do a live podcast to have otherwise will tape it out a little foreign advance you'll hear that
06:17 --> 06:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Lows got a pretty awesome opportunity, so of course we're going to do that while bringing you guys some quality content.
06:23 --> 06:29 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's something as as two people who did shows after every single Mariners playoff game.
06:29 --> 06:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, doing a show after a Super Bowl would be pretty cool.
06:33 --> 06:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it'd be cool.
06:34 --> 06:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I do feel a little bad in that way that that Monday episode after the Super Bowl is not going to be in real time.
06:39 --> 06:41 [SPEAKER_01]: So we won't be able to react to the Super Bowl on that episode.
06:42 --> 06:46 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm sure we'll do it after and hey, if there's a parade, we may be at that too.
06:47 --> 06:52 [SPEAKER_00]: because we're going to have a, because we're going to have a trivia night at Queen and Beer Hall right after.
06:53 --> 06:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
06:53 --> 06:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, if the parade's on a Wednesday, there's always the chance the parade's on a Tuesday, but hey, if it's on a Wednesday, go down the parade.
06:59 --> 07:01 [SPEAKER_01]: It'll end middle to late afternoon.
07:02 --> 07:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And then it's seven o'clock.
07:03 --> 07:09 [SPEAKER_01]: You can make your way up to Queen Ambeur Hall where TJ and I are going to be doing our Mariners trivia night, Queen Ambeur Hall.
07:09 --> 07:10 [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a blast, seriously.
07:10 --> 07:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's going to be a ton of trivia where we're expecting and hoping to get a bunch of people in the door.
07:15 --> 07:16 [SPEAKER_01]: We think there's going to be
07:16 --> 07:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Great food and drinks.
07:17 --> 07:23 [SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be a chance for all these Mariners fans to interact and if that's not enough, there's going to be a ton of prizes to give away.
07:24 --> 07:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to have a bunch of stuff to give away, including a grand prize at the very end for the ultimate winner.
07:29 --> 07:30 [SPEAKER_00]: It'll be worth it.
07:30 --> 07:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Trust us.
07:32 --> 07:39 [SPEAKER_00]: But I was just thinking like that would that would be pretty epic, but we have I guess unfortunately an undercent of a reason not to.
07:41 --> 07:41 [SPEAKER_01]: You're beating around the bush.
07:41 --> 07:45 [SPEAKER_01]: What you're suggesting is doing just a hammered podcast after the Seahawks went to Super Bowl.
07:46 --> 07:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would be pretty fun.
07:48 --> 07:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Spinzone.
07:49 --> 07:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Jerry trades for Brendan Donovan at halftime.
07:52 --> 07:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I would be furious.
07:55 --> 08:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I would be doing a, so I would not full transparency of Jerry to put it on.
08:00 --> 08:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I said his name.
08:01 --> 08:03 [SPEAKER_00]: How, how could I say his name?
08:04 --> 08:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Jerry trades for name redacted at halftime of the Super Bowl.
08:09 --> 08:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not taping during the game.
08:10 --> 08:12 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not happening because law is going to be there.
08:12 --> 08:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to I'm not going to make it unless he wants to scramble back to wherever he's staying and jump on.
08:18 --> 08:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to make him make him do anything.
08:21 --> 08:25 [SPEAKER_00]: But like after the game, yeah, obviously, I got to fit something in at some point.
08:26 --> 08:31 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you guys might get a real range of analysis on name or acted if that were to happen.
08:31 --> 08:34 [SPEAKER_00]: So balls in your court jury.
08:34 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And now you owe a dollar to the jar, the neighbor dack to jar.
08:37 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know.
08:38 --> 08:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I think, oh, like, I think all the money in there is mine.
08:41 --> 08:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I've been pretty good.
08:42 --> 08:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't said his name.
08:43 --> 08:45 [SPEAKER_01]: If they're not going to trade for it, I'm not going to say his name.
08:46 --> 08:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be pretty cool, though.
08:47 --> 08:49 [SPEAKER_00]: What are you most excited for?
08:51 --> 08:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
08:52 --> 08:57 [SPEAKER_01]: The game itself, obviously, because that's the whole reason you're going, but the lead up to it.
08:57 --> 09:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And just like the, the buildup excitement is almost half the fun.
09:01 --> 09:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you would think that stadiums going to be pretty packed with C Hawks fans.
09:05 --> 09:06 [SPEAKER_01]: You would think fans are going to travel pretty well for this.
09:07 --> 09:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So to see a bunch of blue and green throughout a rival city, one knowing it's going to drive Niners fans nuts, but two also knowing that
09:14 --> 09:34 [SPEAKER_00]: there's going to be so many seahawks fans there i feel like it's going to be such a party all weekend and that they win and the idea of going to celebrate after that with a bunch of seahawks fans i mean it'd be amazing in nine or territory i'm just trying to imagine like the forty the city of Seattle hosting a super bowl and the forty nine is win a championship here with all their fans coming up
09:34 --> 09:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't even imagine that.
09:36 --> 09:38 [SPEAKER_00]: The don't do this though, flipping it around backwards.
09:39 --> 09:46 [SPEAKER_00]: The fact that the Niners are gonna have just a swath it, I hope it'll be like 70, 30 Seahawks.
09:46 --> 09:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I think there's no excuse for it not to be, because us Seahawks and Mariners fans have the option of driving there if we have to.
09:53 --> 09:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it takes like a day, a long day, maybe a day and a half, if you really book it.
09:58 --> 10:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, New England, they all got to fly out here.
10:01 --> 10:06 [SPEAKER_00]: So the advantage of fans, you know, that, that'll help.
10:07 --> 10:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a 13 hour drive, roughly, from Seattle to San Francisco.
10:10 --> 10:11 [SPEAKER_01]: You can do it in a day.
10:11 --> 10:13 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a long day, but you know it.
10:14 --> 10:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to say it's 13 hours.
10:15 --> 10:21 [SPEAKER_01]: But I still do need to see the Seahawks win this year to claim at the best Seattle sports you're ever.
10:21 --> 10:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Cause again, winning a title.
10:24 --> 10:30 [SPEAKER_01]: you're talking about participation trophies if you think the best sports you're ever is two teams that don't win.
10:31 --> 10:32 [SPEAKER_01]: So are they going to win?
10:34 --> 10:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
10:35 --> 10:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I do too.
10:36 --> 10:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I think this has a chance to be a throttling.
10:39 --> 10:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to jinx it.
10:41 --> 10:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't say for sure.
10:42 --> 10:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I said I think anything can happen, but
10:46 --> 10:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I know the Patriots are running, and a lot of Patriots fans are running with the narrative right now about, oh, they've beaten three top five defenses in a row to get to the Super Bowl.
10:55 --> 10:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Call whatever you want.
10:56 --> 10:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Those defenses are not the Seahawks defense.
11:00 --> 11:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Texans are probably about as close as you would.
11:02 --> 11:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
11:03 --> 11:08 [SPEAKER_01]: The Seahawks and the Texans defense are the two best defenses in the NFL, but the Texans have a non-existent offense.
11:08 --> 11:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was horrendous to watch.
11:09 --> 11:13 [SPEAKER_00]: And they had a quarterback who looked like he was throwing the game.
11:14 --> 11:29 [SPEAKER_00]: which now counterbalance that with what the C-Ox said to go up against this weekend and Matthew Stafford, who is unbelievable and I'm so excited that I don't have to watch this dude play again against the C-Ox for at least eight or nine months, maybe ever, maybe he'll just retire.
11:29 --> 11:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't have to watch, remember again.
11:31 --> 11:34 [SPEAKER_00]: So dude, gave me fits in my heart.
11:35 --> 11:38 [SPEAKER_01]: If the C-Ox lose the Superl's, are you still calling it the best Seattle sports you ever?
11:39 --> 11:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
11:40 --> 11:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
11:40 --> 11:43 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm even more sure because I think they're going to win.
11:44 --> 11:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
11:44 --> 11:45 [SPEAKER_01]: If they win it obviously is.
11:47 --> 11:49 [SPEAKER_00]: But I've no reason not to be confident.
11:49 --> 11:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I was confident in the Mariners.
11:50 --> 11:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I was confident in the C.O.C.
11:52 --> 11:53 [SPEAKER_00]: down the stretch of the season.
11:53 --> 11:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm feeling pretty confident right now.
11:55 --> 11:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's good.
11:57 --> 11:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I, man, I hope they win.
12:00 --> 12:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say the Vegas backs up your thinking because they have.
12:08 --> 12:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
12:10 --> 12:19 [SPEAKER_00]: And you could say, oh, guys, I mean, if we're talking about gambling odds, the Broncos were five and a half point favorites, which is I believe what the current line is over the sea ox when they played.
12:21 --> 12:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, I've watched these teams play.
12:24 --> 12:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I've watched them.
12:26 --> 12:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, you have the Patriots.
12:27 --> 12:35 [SPEAKER_01]: We're like squeaking out winds over the Bengals and I mean, they lost the genome peat and the Raiders all the way back in week one.
12:35 --> 12:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I know that's
12:39 --> 12:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he hooks one the best division of all time.
12:43 --> 12:46 [SPEAKER_00]: And then beat the division again in the playoffs.
12:47 --> 12:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
12:49 --> 12:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
12:50 --> 12:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I like the odds.
12:51 --> 12:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I do.
12:52 --> 12:54 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, we figure we get a little of the C.A.K.
12:54 --> 12:56 [SPEAKER_01]: to talk in here because we didn't do it Monday.
12:56 --> 13:02 [SPEAKER_01]: We did our top 50 Mariners list on Monday, which by the way, a lot of good feedback with that stuff.
13:02 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_01]: You were interacting with that.
13:03 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Good.
13:03 --> 13:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't good.
13:05 --> 13:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was a good list.
13:06 --> 13:07 [SPEAKER_00]: It was good.
13:07 --> 13:08 [SPEAKER_00]: The list was good.
13:08 --> 13:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you think the feedback was good or are people just calling us idiots?
13:13 --> 13:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Isn't that just social media and a nutshell?
13:16 --> 13:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I loved the, I did love the feedback, even though even if it was,
13:22 --> 13:23 [SPEAKER_00]: maybe a little bit harsh at times.
13:23 --> 13:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we could just read through some of the comments.
13:25 --> 13:28 [SPEAKER_00]: The interaction on this post that we put out was great.
13:28 --> 13:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's suggestions for a Toro to be on the list that you should put a Toro on there just just to spite me, which would have been really funny.
13:37 --> 13:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's other, and there are people who are somewhat more serious.
13:42 --> 13:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Marco Gonzalez over Zenino, like, where is Hazus Montereau?
13:46 --> 13:51 [SPEAKER_00]: What about
13:51 --> 13:53 [SPEAKER_00]: No, they're not serious about it.
13:53 --> 13:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Just like the person is not serious about where's Milton Bradley.
13:57 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you guys could probably guess where he is.
13:59 --> 14:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we had a person pissed off at us saying, how could you put A-Rot over Dan Wilson, which when I saw that, I inserted the SpongeBob meme, which is, I, on my head out.
14:11 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, dog, there's a question here from a Tanner.
14:14 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Where's Jared?
14:15 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Kelmick.
14:16 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I know, my guy.
14:17 --> 14:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I would have loved to put him on the list.
14:20 --> 14:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, if you don't want good year in Seattle, you could have made a case for him to be in the top 50.
14:24 --> 14:25 [SPEAKER_01]: One good year.
14:25 --> 14:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I squint my eyes as if I didn't put cliffully on my list for four months.
14:30 --> 14:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
14:31 --> 14:35 [SPEAKER_00]: You like, I could have put Jared on there with one good year with an all star game.
14:36 --> 14:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's a, here's a pretty common one that we got push back on.
14:39 --> 14:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Why is Cal behind Julio?
14:42 --> 14:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Because Julio's just done it for such a more sustained period of time, then Cal.
14:46 --> 14:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Like Julio's got more top 10 MVP finishes, Julio's got higher war seasons.
14:52 --> 15:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, Cal had won just unbelievable year, and then he's had three incredibly good seasons where Julio's had four years in a row that are the best player at his position in the sport.
15:05 --> 15:16 [SPEAKER_01]: and pairing with the fact that, again, more top 10 MVP finishes and he's just done it for a little bit of a longer period of time at that level, then Cal has.
15:16 --> 15:18 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like we had them 15 spots apart.
15:18 --> 15:20 [SPEAKER_01]: You guys, they're back to back.
15:20 --> 15:23 [SPEAKER_01]: TJ had Julio Cal 910, I had him 10 11.
15:23 --> 15:24 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like it's some massive drop off.
15:26 --> 15:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I found a very diabolical, like niche, mariner ball-noir comment.
15:31 --> 15:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Not sure how I feel about Zanino being above Bryce Miller.
15:36 --> 15:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Thoughts?
15:38 --> 15:39 [SPEAKER_01]: We do love Bryce.
15:40 --> 15:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Zanino had a couple of good years that probably currently for now.
15:44 --> 15:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Put him a little bit ahead, but get Bryce another year.
15:47 --> 16:05 [SPEAKER_00]: But I get an even show like that's like arguing where like the 48th and 50th best players on a on a given list Given list art to be which is I think a big reason why we wanted to put it out like one through 50 so we actually had things for people to look at There was another question on here.
16:05 --> 16:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Where's Dylan more?
16:07 --> 16:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
16:07 --> 16:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, don't think so Not quite not quite on the list if he had a good year this year to think he would have made it
16:14 --> 16:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's possible.
16:15 --> 16:19 [SPEAKER_01]: If you had another good year, you'd probably call on the best Mariners utility player ever, right?
16:20 --> 16:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Or is there nothing?
16:21 --> 16:21 [SPEAKER_00]: No, then.
16:21 --> 16:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Top 50 Mariners.
16:23 --> 16:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
16:25 --> 16:25 [SPEAKER_01]: It is a thought.
16:26 --> 16:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, guys, when you get to 35 through 50, it is quite a list.
16:31 --> 16:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, TJ Jared Washburn on there, my dad wasn't thrilled with you with that.
16:34 --> 16:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Why did you say, why is Jared Washburn on this list?
16:37 --> 16:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like the worst.
16:38 --> 16:40 [SPEAKER_00]: The war numbers say what the war numbers are.
16:40 --> 16:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
16:41 --> 16:42 [SPEAKER_00]: They do.
16:42 --> 16:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Look, like, it's like James Paxton, like good big league pitcher, but like initially was, I mean, he was like, he was not like a failed prospect, but it wasn't like smooth sailing for him.
16:56 --> 17:00 [SPEAKER_00]: He's the 11th or 12 best Mariners pitcher of all time.
17:01 --> 17:01 [SPEAKER_01]: All time.
17:02 --> 17:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Remember that big three when they were coming through the system?
17:05 --> 17:08 [SPEAKER_01]: It was Paxton, it was James Paxton, Taiwan, Walker, Danny Olson.
17:08 --> 17:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
17:09 --> 17:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Paxon was the best of them.
17:11 --> 17:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Ty one Walker.
17:12 --> 17:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, never really did what people thought he was going to do here.
17:16 --> 17:25 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Danny Holtz and, well, yes, they should have, they probably should have taken Francisco Lendor, although if they had taken Lendor, given the old regime that was running the front office, he probably would have been a bust.
17:26 --> 17:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And in terms of how good they were supposed to be, it was almost backwards.
17:29 --> 17:31 [SPEAKER_00]: It was like, holds in was supposed to be the best.
17:31 --> 17:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Then it was Taiwan who was like a raw high school prospect, who's rated higher than Paxton was.
17:37 --> 17:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I think, I think by the end, people thought Taiwan Walker was gonna be the best one.
17:42 --> 17:45 [SPEAKER_01]: When Taiwan Walker came up with a prospect, I think he was top five.
17:46 --> 17:48 [SPEAKER_00]: He was like, yeah, he was easily a top 10 prospect.
17:49 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that was unfortunately didn't pan out the Mariners his careers paned out nicely He's made himself some decent money Played around the majors been a solid starter, but now again and again Had he not been developed by the jacks the Mariners front office.
18:03 --> 18:10 [SPEAKER_00]: He might have one say youngs for all we know if he was developed by this front office Who'd be an ace maybe if you probably would have made a couple all star games.
18:10 --> 18:12 [SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure at that the very least
18:12 --> 18:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but those lists were very fun to do.
18:14 --> 18:16 [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, I joked about the feedback earlier.
18:16 --> 18:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Was it good?
18:17 --> 18:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It was just like obviously negative for for some bits, but we do appreciate the feedback.
18:22 --> 18:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad we got to put that together and put it out to you guys.
18:25 --> 18:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I know not everyone listens to the full podcast and even if you're listening to the podcast, you're trying to like picture in your head.
18:31 --> 18:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, like what did they who did they have it like 11 to 15?
18:35 --> 18:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember.
18:36 --> 18:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Now we have it out there in case you guys want to refer back.
18:40 --> 18:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Mid season about our rankings and come at us.
18:44 --> 19:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, thank you guys for the feedback on that and again I'm we did this because the mariners in honor of their 50th season are Having people go on to their website and rank their 50 greatest mariners ever and have them make like fans make their own list And I think that's how they're gonna determine how they write like how they select their 50 greatest mariners ever and again I don't know but I would have to assume some of these guys are gonna get honored throughout the course of the year in some way or another
19:09 --> 19:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we wanted to do our own list.
19:11 --> 19:17 [SPEAKER_01]: It was fun, but yeah, so anyway, to recap, did our top 50 list.
19:18 --> 19:19 [SPEAKER_01]: We will be at fan fest this weekend.
19:19 --> 19:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Please combine us.
19:20 --> 19:24 [SPEAKER_01]: We are doing our main Saturday and Sunday.
19:25 --> 19:31 [SPEAKER_01]: We are doing Mariners Trivia night at Queen Embeor Hall Wednesday, February 11th at 7 p.m.
19:31 --> 19:33 [SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be prizes, including a grand prize.
19:33 --> 19:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Come out for that.
19:34 --> 19:36 [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a blast and
19:37 --> 19:40 [SPEAKER_01]: If you see me at the Super Bowl, come find me at the Super Bowl if you're going.
19:41 --> 19:45 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're going to send us the podcast count of DM, like, well, Lyle will see it.
19:45 --> 19:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
19:46 --> 19:48 [SPEAKER_00]: And let's see, one other piece of housekeeping.
19:48 --> 19:57 [SPEAKER_00]: So based on a recording schedule for next week, or the taping of our next two mailbox episodes are going to be very close to each other.
19:57 --> 20:02 [SPEAKER_00]: So we might use some leftover questions from this upcoming Friday's mailbag.
20:02 --> 20:07 [SPEAKER_00]: on Tuesdays or no to it'll be next Fridays, but it'll be recorded very early in the week.
20:09 --> 20:15 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you have like two questions, just know you could wait until like Sunday and send us another mailback question.
20:15 --> 20:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
20:16 --> 20:17 [SPEAKER_00]: And we'll see it because that's one more.
20:17 --> 20:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's honestly when we're going to need it.
20:19 --> 20:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Just yeah, just know that for next week.
20:22 --> 20:26 [SPEAKER_01]: People have, people have San Francisco recommendations, San Jose recommendations, Santa Clara.
20:26 --> 20:33 [SPEAKER_01]: You can send them in either DM it to us, leave it in the YouTube comments for any of these podcast episodes, or you can send it as a mailback question.
20:34 --> 20:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of someone who is going to be honored as we get to the main subject of our podcast today, not something I was expecting to see today, but can't say I'm too surprised given the career he's had.
20:46 --> 20:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Rick Riz has announced his retirement in this upcoming season will be his 41st in last as the voice of the Mariners something I was not expecting to be doing when we started this podcast.
20:58 --> 21:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Was having to say goodbye to both Dave Sims and Rick Riz and back to back years,
21:04 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_00]: the twenty twenty seven season if they play it is going to sound so unbelievably different.
21:12 --> 21:13 [SPEAKER_00]: I think will it?
21:14 --> 21:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I need to look we're about to give all our flowers in the world to the greatest well Dave Neha's Rick Rizz.
21:20 --> 21:22 [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's one A1B.
21:22 --> 21:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you believe the greatest Mariners broadcasts are to ever do it?
21:26 --> 21:26 [SPEAKER_01]: But
21:27 --> 21:35 [SPEAKER_01]: It is going to be a lot of familiar voices, it's still going to be golden on TV, and then I would have to assume Gary Hill is going to be the majority radio broadcasters.
21:36 --> 21:38 [SPEAKER_01]: So it is voices you're going to be used to hearing.
21:38 --> 21:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you're 100% right.
21:40 --> 21:47 [SPEAKER_00]: But there has never been a Seattle Mariners baseball game played without Dave Nehouse or Rick Res being employed.
21:47 --> 21:48 [SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
21:48 --> 22:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, I mean, I'm not going to rank two because they're both so legendary in their own rights, but obviously the two greatest mariners broadcasts ever, and in Rick Rez, especially for people like us, who unfortunately didn't get to listen to a whole lot of Dave Neighouse growing up and just get to hear highlight of them.
22:06 --> 22:08 [SPEAKER_01]: and he Rick Rizz was our whole childhood.
22:08 --> 22:15 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not just the voice of the Mariners, that is the voice of our baseball childhood lives, et cetera.
22:16 --> 22:20 [SPEAKER_01]: When I think of one voice, narrating my baseball fandom, it's Rick Rizz.
22:20 --> 22:21 [SPEAKER_00]: And it will always be Rick Rizz.
22:22 --> 22:31 [SPEAKER_00]: And to think of the role he had to take on when Dave Nehaus passed away in 2010 unexpectedly,
22:31 --> 22:39 [SPEAKER_00]: to step into a Hall of Famer shoes and continue to be a Hall of Famer himself, where I think he will get into the, he's going to get into the Mariners Hall of Fame.
22:40 --> 22:45 [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, that'll probably be, they play baseball in 2027, it will probably be him.
22:45 --> 22:48 [SPEAKER_00]: That seems like a pretty easy, a pretty easy ushering in.
22:49 --> 22:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's call it in the next three years.
22:52 --> 22:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Because obviously, they took a little time to put Randy, yeah,
22:56 --> 22:57 [SPEAKER_01]: feel it.
22:57 --> 22:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, no.
22:58 --> 22:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting all my things mixed up.
23:00 --> 23:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Felix and the Mariners Hall family.
23:01 --> 23:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yes.
23:02 --> 23:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:02 --> 23:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I'm blanking.
23:04 --> 23:05 [SPEAKER_01]: They took a little bit to put Felix in.
23:05 --> 23:07 [SPEAKER_01]: They took a little bit of time to put Junior in.
23:07 --> 23:10 [SPEAKER_01]: They like they do that sometimes and give give it a little breathing room.
23:10 --> 23:13 [SPEAKER_01]: They may make an exception for somebody as legendary as Rick Riz.
23:14 --> 23:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Point being.
23:15 --> 23:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Rick Rizz is going to be a Mariners Hall of Famer.
23:17 --> 23:19 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no way he's not.
23:19 --> 23:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Whether it happens tomorrow or whether it happens in a couple of years, Rick Rizz is going to be a Mariners Hall of Famer.
23:24 --> 23:28 [SPEAKER_01]: And in terms of getting into Cooper's town, yeah, I'd say he's got a chance for that, too.
23:29 --> 23:33 [SPEAKER_00]: If Dave Nehauses in Cooper's town, I think Rick Rizz should be in Cooper's town, too.
23:33 --> 23:35 [SPEAKER_00]: 41 years.
23:36 --> 23:38 [SPEAKER_00]: He's been calling Mariners baseball.
23:38 --> 23:51 [SPEAKER_00]: longer than Dave Nehouse, like on just a rate basis, like Rick Rizz has a bigger stamp on Mariners history than Dave Nehouse does.
23:51 --> 24:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Dave has the big calls from the 90s, but Rick Man, I mean, he's been here the whole time literally, from eight, he took the three year break into trait, but then comes back from 95 and has not left sense.
24:06 --> 24:06 [SPEAKER_00]: No?
24:06 --> 24:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
24:08 --> 24:13 [SPEAKER_01]: He is just everything you'd want to have somebody embody in your team broadcast there.
24:13 --> 24:22 [SPEAKER_01]: For two people that definitely do not have it in their bones to be even close to his positive on the regular as Rick Reyes about the Mariners.
24:23 --> 24:33 [SPEAKER_01]: To have somebody who is that out beat and that positive and that just like joyous about the team that he gets to broadcast games for night in and night out.
24:33 --> 24:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's infectious.
24:34 --> 24:56 [SPEAKER_01]: and people know it being around the park with them i mean he is a friendly face to everybody he sees how you hear him on the radio is how he really is in person i mean who the hell are we again i just said were two people who often just can't control our emotions about our own baseball team doing some podcast doing stuff on social media things that are way
24:56 --> 24:57 [SPEAKER_01]: kind of beyond Rick's time.
24:57 --> 25:03 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not what Rick is grew up with in terms of broadcasting and media pairing it with the sense of what we do.
25:03 --> 25:06 [SPEAKER_01]: But despite us being just
25:06 --> 25:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Two random kids do in our own thing.
25:10 --> 25:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Whenever we see him, he knows our names.
25:12 --> 25:13 [SPEAKER_01]: He says, nice as you can be.
25:13 --> 25:15 [SPEAKER_01]: He's always happy to chat.
25:15 --> 25:17 [SPEAKER_01]: It's, and he's liked that with everybody.
25:18 --> 25:21 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is what I mean by, he embodies everything you'd want in a broadcast.
25:21 --> 25:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Or he was great at the nuts and bolts of the job, obviously, in the actual play by play.
25:26 --> 25:27 [SPEAKER_01]: He had big calls.
25:28 --> 25:29 [SPEAKER_01]: He is an incredibly friendly face.
25:30 --> 25:34 [SPEAKER_01]: He is an incredibly upbeat personality and everybody likes him.
25:34 --> 25:38 [SPEAKER_00]: he's by far the most positive mayor's fan of all time.
25:39 --> 25:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
25:40 --> 25:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
25:41 --> 25:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
25:42 --> 25:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anybody can even come close to second.
25:44 --> 25:46 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think so either.
25:47 --> 25:48 [SPEAKER_00]: We did this for Dave.
25:48 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Where do you think we'd rank on that list?
25:51 --> 25:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, not towards the top half.
25:54 --> 25:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we're at the bottom.
25:55 --> 25:57 [SPEAKER_00]: There's definitely people especially me.
25:57 --> 25:58 [SPEAKER_00]: There's people more negative than me.
25:59 --> 26:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at one of them.
26:04 --> 26:08 [SPEAKER_00]: bottom half, maybe I'm closer to the middle, you're closer to the bottom.
26:09 --> 26:25 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't like to let it all out on the podcast because you know that when I'm just going on some tangent and real and odd about something, you know, and this is what makes you a good podcast there, that we can't both do that, or it's not a good content, it's not a good podcast.
26:25 --> 26:31 [SPEAKER_01]: So you know internally to balance a lot of it, but when we text back and forth during these games, I'd say it's pretty even.
26:31 --> 26:33 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't let it all out on the podcast.
26:33 --> 26:36 [SPEAKER_00]: You leave a lot of that to me, but I just, yeah, maybe I'm just speaking it for people.
26:38 --> 26:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I will say that, yeah, I think that's right.
26:40 --> 26:41 [SPEAKER_01]: We are not at the bottom.
26:41 --> 26:51 [SPEAKER_01]: We are probably somewhere, when you get to that bottom half, probably somewhere in the upper middle, because there are some miserable people that are fans, quote, unquote, to this team.
26:51 --> 26:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, to make this about Rick, again, I don't know how many things you can say about the guy in a positive light that
26:59 --> 27:07 [SPEAKER_01]: do it justice because I don't know if the word do do it justice for what he's meant to the city, the franchise, everything in his time here.
27:07 --> 27:10 [SPEAKER_01]: But the best way I can describe it is he is Mariners baseball.
27:10 --> 27:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Rick Riz is Mariners baseball.
27:12 --> 27:14 [SPEAKER_00]: It's charitable work has been amazing too.
27:14 --> 27:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's made such, such an impact.
27:16 --> 27:26 [SPEAKER_00]: And I like just going on to games next year and knowing that there will be no Rick resistance, different, even if it's Gary, most of the time on radio, like they're gonna have to hire another announcer.
27:27 --> 27:27 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's gonna be weird.
27:28 --> 27:37 [SPEAKER_00]: They've really for the most part, the only quote unquote outsider they have hired my entire life is Dave Sims.
27:37 --> 27:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, right, and Goldie.
27:40 --> 27:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and go duh.
27:41 --> 27:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm maybe I just assimilate Goldie with with Seattle now.
27:44 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_00]: But yes, you're right.
27:46 --> 27:46 [SPEAKER_00]: There's been two of them.
27:46 --> 27:50 [SPEAKER_00]: It's been Dave Sims and Goldie and both of them aren't grained into Mariners history.
27:51 --> 27:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Goldie, Gary, not really.
27:52 --> 27:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Gary's Gary's from here.
27:54 --> 27:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Gary worked his way up into that booth.
27:56 --> 27:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And he sounds great doing it.
27:58 --> 28:00 [SPEAKER_00]: But they're going to have to, they're going to have to do that again.
28:00 --> 28:06 [SPEAKER_00]: And considering who is getting replaced, it's, it's pretty monumental.
28:06 --> 28:28 [SPEAKER_00]: like they're not for people who are curious they're not going to i'm just guess i'm just guessing but i'm almost certain this is how it's going to go they're not going to go higher another lead announcer get i i'm almost certain gary hill is going to be the number one play by play voice on radio for the mariners next year and he deserves it and he's worked his ass off for it and he's really really good at what he does
28:28 --> 28:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Now cool is that best friends, Aaron Goldsmith and Gary Hill are the lead announcer for TV and radio working their way out.
28:36 --> 28:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Super, super cool.
28:37 --> 28:45 [SPEAKER_00]: So what they will probably do is hire a number or two broadcasts or that will
28:45 --> 28:50 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, do some play by play, do some pre-imposed game hosting, just so they have another voice in there.
28:50 --> 28:58 [SPEAKER_00]: They might still roll with the analysts, like they've been doing actually really like having an analyst on this past year, without having Dave there.
28:59 --> 29:02 [SPEAKER_00]: But they are going to need to hire another play by play voice.
29:02 --> 29:03 [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see.
29:05 --> 29:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea who it's going to be.
29:07 --> 29:07 [SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
29:07 --> 29:10 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be a lead voice, likely.
29:11 --> 29:14 [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like they would
29:15 --> 29:17 [SPEAKER_01]: go with similar route to what they did when Goldie was hired.
29:17 --> 29:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean Goldie essentially in a lot of ways had to replace Dave Nehouse, which is a near impossible task.
29:24 --> 29:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Rick Riz was the main voice on radio, but when Goldie started doing his three innings a game as the number two voice on the radio, I mean that is who he was replacing.
29:32 --> 29:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Whoever steps in with those shoes, it's gonna be similar.
29:34 --> 29:41 [SPEAKER_01]: You have to replace Rick Riz, not for all his innings because we assume Gary Hill will be the lead radio voice, but it would,
29:41 --> 29:50 [SPEAKER_01]: involve stepping in place of somebody who was an absolute legend in Mariners history to think they might just hire rich walls.
29:52 --> 29:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess that's possible, but that's also, yeah, he, rich wall too, we've got to know, is great.
29:59 --> 30:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Tremendous broadcaster, he spent years as a TVN radio guy in some different places, more on TV, but it depends on if he wants to do it full time.
30:10 --> 30:29 [SPEAKER_01]: He's been their fill-in guy when they've got people who've had time off or if they looked to somebody younger again, more the goldie route, somebody to minor league, somebody that's a number three voice with a major league team right now, which usually if you're a number three voice with a big league team, it means you do most of the pre-game post-game stuff, so we'll see.
30:30 --> 30:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just thinking off the top of my head, maybe this is me only being 27 and not knowing every single announced or higher they've ever made.
30:38 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_00]: who are the minor league announcers they've hired in their history.
30:42 --> 30:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Like total hit, do we count Gary is that?
30:45 --> 30:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Cause like Gary never did minor league baseball.
30:47 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I was thinking.
30:48 --> 30:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he did college sports, he did a lot of stuff locally.
30:53 --> 31:06 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, filled in a ton on there and then eventually earned his reps. Goldie, they hired straight from the minor leagues and Rick, they hired straight from the minor leagues and Dave Nehouse, they hired.
31:06 --> 31:07 [SPEAKER_00]: From the minor leagues.
31:07 --> 31:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I believe Dave from the minor league.
31:09 --> 31:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we know.
31:10 --> 31:10 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no.
31:10 --> 31:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
31:10 --> 31:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I have that wrong.
31:11 --> 31:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Dave was already in the made majors.
31:13 --> 31:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:13 --> 31:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he was with the angels.
31:15 --> 31:16 [SPEAKER_01]: If I have that right.
31:16 --> 31:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
31:16 --> 31:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
31:16 --> 31:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
31:16 --> 31:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
31:17 --> 31:19 [SPEAKER_00]: So then if I remember this right.
31:19 --> 31:22 [SPEAKER_00]: If I'm wrong, please let me know in the comments.
31:22 --> 31:24 [SPEAKER_00]: We can address it on the next podcast.
31:25 --> 31:30 [SPEAKER_00]: They hired Rick from the miners, and they hired Goldie from the miners to have they hired anyone else.
31:31 --> 31:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they haven't made that many broadcasting hires.
31:33 --> 31:38 [SPEAKER_01]: They never had a broadcast history, isn't long because they've had so many legends in the booth.
31:38 --> 31:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
31:39 --> 31:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Which is why if they do hire from higher from the miners, you understand like the standard that is set.
31:46 --> 31:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you have two Hall of Fame announces.
31:49 --> 31:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll call Aaron Goalsmith the Hall of Fame announces right now.
31:51 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_00]: He's great.
31:52 --> 31:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope he's gonna be here another 30 years.
31:55 --> 31:57 [SPEAKER_00]: So, like, that's the standard.
31:58 --> 31:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
31:59 --> 31:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Crazy.
31:59 --> 32:00 [SPEAKER_00]: No pressure.
32:01 --> 32:13 [SPEAKER_00]: If you want the Mariners job and you're applying for it next year and you're anywhere from the ages of 28 to 40 years old and minor league baseball and you want this job, I'm gonna support the heck out of you.
32:13 --> 32:14 [SPEAKER_00]: No pressure.
32:16 --> 32:24 [SPEAKER_01]: no pressure, but it is going to be a point in viewing or I guess listening to put on the radio this year and listen to ringrins.
32:25 --> 32:25 [UNKNOWN]: Yep.
32:25 --> 32:27 [SPEAKER_01]: because there's only so much more you're gonna get of them.
32:28 --> 32:35 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think if the Mariners press, if I remember the Mariners press release right here from Tuesday, his road schedule is gonna be a little bit decreased this year.
32:35 --> 32:37 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not gonna do as many road trips.
32:37 --> 32:44 [SPEAKER_01]: So the opportunities to listen to Rick Riz call baseball games is getting smaller and smaller, so utilize them.
32:45 --> 32:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Because he is, how many times can we say it?
32:47 --> 32:48 [SPEAKER_01]: An absolute legend.
32:48 --> 32:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, who's gonna fill in more on the road then?
32:53 --> 32:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Or they're just gonna like Gary just do the whole road trip.
32:55 --> 32:56 [SPEAKER_01]: It's possible.
32:56 --> 33:06 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the other thing about Gary, we assume eventually getting the number one job is are they gonna find another engineer too, or is he gonna have to still set up all the equipment?
33:07 --> 33:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope they find another engineer.
33:08 --> 33:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like once you get, I know he likes that stuff, but once you get promoted to the lead radio voice, you would,
33:15 --> 33:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Hope that you don't also have to be your own engineer like you'll probably have other responsibilities You have to worry about right exactly.
33:21 --> 33:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh a hundred percent The here's there's another thing I think about I mean some teams have one radio an answer A lot of them go all nine innings.
33:29 --> 33:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think the Mariners would do that And I also don't know if I like that for how it's been I kind of like a dynamic.
33:36 --> 33:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I like the mix invoices I'm with you
33:39 --> 33:43 [SPEAKER_00]: It give there's more voices in the room is never a really bad thing as long as they're all good.
33:44 --> 33:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And for the Mariners case, they have always all been very good.
33:47 --> 33:59 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like really fast needed to see What's going to happen with this and who they might hire as a replacement whether or not perhaps we get a taste of that this year or they may be try out some people on the road.
34:00 --> 34:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who that could be.
34:01 --> 34:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who they have in mind.
34:02 --> 34:04 [SPEAKER_00]: They haven't had to worry about this ever.
34:04 --> 34:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Dave Sims goes to the Yankees.
34:07 --> 34:10 [SPEAKER_00]: They already have enough and enough announcers.
34:10 --> 34:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Like they honestly had, they'd like, with Sims they had the perfect amount, but you can risk, you can afford to lose one.
34:18 --> 34:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Now you, I mean, you can't really lose another one.
34:21 --> 34:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah?
34:22 --> 34:23 [SPEAKER_01]: No, you can't.
34:23 --> 34:25 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's going to be very interesting.
34:26 --> 34:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And it'll be a topic more for, well, I hope it's some point next year, but who knows?
34:30 --> 34:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Because, thanks, Ron Manford.
34:31 --> 34:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it's going to be more about, whenever the baseball season starts again, a conversation.
34:39 --> 34:45 [SPEAKER_01]: But in the meantime, I think you just have to enjoy the greatness of Rick Riz for one final year before he,
34:45 --> 34:56 [SPEAKER_01]: calls it a career, an unbelievable career, and he gets showered with all the praise from the mirrors, which he deserves every single ounce of, both at the end of this year and in years to come.
34:58 --> 35:00 [SPEAKER_00]: We did this with Sims before we wrap this up.
35:00 --> 35:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll do this with Riz.
35:02 --> 35:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, do you have your top five favorites?
35:05 --> 35:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Top five.
35:06 --> 35:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's so hard.
35:09 --> 35:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Who can I throw some ideas at you because I wrote a couple down sure.
35:13 --> 35:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's clincher called Cal Great a plus.
35:16 --> 35:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean that is like One of the first like you for a commomence.
35:20 --> 35:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I felt as a Mariners fan Because it was breaking the drought watching the team go to the playoffs Super sick
35:28 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and, and, and you can hear it and raise his voice in that call.
35:31 --> 35:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's almost emotional during that call.
35:34 --> 35:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm, as he should be.
35:35 --> 35:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he, he suffered through it just like the rest of us did.
35:38 --> 35:39 [SPEAKER_00]: No playoffs.
35:40 --> 35:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, the Gino Grand Slam this year, how could you not?
35:42 --> 35:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, or insane.
35:46 --> 35:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I have one niche one I'll throw in here at the end.
35:48 --> 35:51 [SPEAKER_00]: But you have each year's throw in Oakland, 2001.
35:51 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_01]: That's, in the house.
35:54 --> 35:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Each, risk has one too.
35:56 --> 35:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you talking about that each year out through something out of Star Wars?
36:00 --> 36:01 [SPEAKER_01]: That's me house.
36:01 --> 36:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Rinse has the call on radio.
36:03 --> 36:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, okay.
36:05 --> 36:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's good.
36:06 --> 36:06 [SPEAKER_00]: It's really good.
36:07 --> 36:09 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, I thought you were talking about the Star Wars thing.
36:10 --> 36:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Not the specific Star Wars reference, but it was still really good.
36:14 --> 36:16 [SPEAKER_00]: And then Felix is perfect game in 2012, of course.
36:16 --> 36:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
36:17 --> 36:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Unbelievable.
36:18 --> 36:24 [SPEAKER_00]: And then the niche one I have is 2009 Russell Branion hits one into the upper deck in Yankee Stadium.
36:25 --> 36:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, the couple niche ones I was gonna go with is, well, one, he's on the radio when he's laughing over the mat to he asks a soap, a home run when blower's called it to me.
36:37 --> 36:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
36:37 --> 36:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
36:37 --> 36:38 [SPEAKER_01]: He is laughing.
36:38 --> 36:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he can't even believe it.
36:39 --> 36:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Neither can he house, but that one.
36:41 --> 36:47 [SPEAKER_01]: And I have a niche one too, although it was a phenomenal call at the time where it happened.
36:48 --> 36:49 [SPEAKER_01]: And I always remember it.
36:49 --> 36:53 [SPEAKER_01]: You remember when Mike's in Reno in 2017, walked off the twins to walk off Homer?
36:53 --> 36:54 [SPEAKER_01]: The game we were at.
36:55 --> 36:58 [SPEAKER_01]: No, Zenino hit a different walkoff homer.
36:58 --> 36:59 [SPEAKER_01]: That was in 2018.
36:59 --> 37:08 [SPEAKER_01]: In 17, they were down one or two runs, and he hit a walkoff homer to dead centerfield basically to walk off the twins.
37:08 --> 37:11 [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't land in front of the batters, I part of centerfield.
37:12 --> 37:14 [SPEAKER_01]: It landed in the J-rod squad before it was the J-rod squad.
37:15 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And Rizz's call on that was, he said magic here at the corner of Edgar in Dave, which I've never heard before,
37:21 --> 37:24 [SPEAKER_01]: But I was like, oh, that's a really, really good line.
37:25 --> 37:25 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think you'd done it.
37:26 --> 37:28 [SPEAKER_01]: That was the first time I remember I'm doing that.
37:28 --> 37:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, that's a great call.
37:29 --> 37:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So my niche one is that.
37:31 --> 37:32 [SPEAKER_00]: You guys have one, you know what to do.
37:33 --> 37:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Please leave us a comment.
37:34 --> 37:36 [SPEAKER_00]: It's impossible to remember all of them.
37:36 --> 37:42 [SPEAKER_00]: It is also a little harder for radio because, of course, Major League Baseball has all of the TV highlights.
37:42 --> 37:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Radio highlights not as readily available to just search up on YouTube and find.
37:50 --> 37:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
37:51 --> 37:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to talk about this trade?
37:53 --> 37:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I will spend like one minute on it.
37:55 --> 38:02 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners acquired a catcher by the name of Johnny Pareta, which I think this guy is basically going to be the third catcher in spring training.
38:02 --> 38:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He's probably going to be there to give Andrew Kisner some competition to make it a quote unquote battle for the backup catcher spot.
38:08 --> 38:10 [SPEAKER_01]: One of them will go to the minor leagues.
38:10 --> 38:11 [SPEAKER_01]: It will likely be Pareta.
38:13 --> 38:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's basically what you need to know about the guy.
38:16 --> 38:20 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a guy with a decent pop time, but he does not hit.
38:21 --> 38:31 [SPEAKER_00]: biggest news out of that entire transaction is that jax and co are got dfn so it's kind of bummed about and even really think he got much of an opportunity last year they might have just not liked what they saw out of him.
38:31 --> 38:38 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got pretty solid stuff and I was really intrigued with him coming out for Tommy John thought he could help the Mariners bullpen.
38:39 --> 38:50 [SPEAKER_00]: He did not and now he's off the 40 man so did the odds of him making the roster are a little
38:50 --> 38:51 [SPEAKER_01]: You're right, he probably won't make that up.
38:51 --> 38:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, then they got to re-out him back to the 40 man and then cut someone else and a little bit more of a headache.
38:56 --> 39:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I meant more later in the year if he doesn't get a big league off or somewhere else.
39:00 --> 39:11 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's potential, but yeah, this catcher had made the big leagues his first season in 2024 and age 28 at a 34 WRC plus this past year at an 87.
39:11 --> 39:13 [SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't slugged much, doesn't really get on base.
39:14 --> 39:16 [SPEAKER_00]: He's your typical backup catcher.
39:16 --> 39:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I think him and Kisner's profile is.
39:18 --> 39:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty similar to the honest.
39:19 --> 39:29 [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to hopefully one of them impresses in spring training enough to catch Hopefully 30 games for Cal.
39:30 --> 39:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.
39:31 --> 39:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
39:31 --> 39:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, again, parade is 29 like you said.
39:35 --> 39:36 [SPEAKER_01]: It debuted at 28.
39:37 --> 39:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Not much of an offense of profile.
39:38 --> 39:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Not a lot of big league games.
39:40 --> 39:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, see what he does.
39:41 --> 39:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I would assume Kizner's the backup and he'll go to AAA.
39:44 --> 39:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Parade.
39:45 --> 39:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Catcher depth in New York is not great.
39:46 --> 39:48 [SPEAKER_00]: That's another reason why they made this trade.
39:48 --> 39:49 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
39:49 --> 39:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Can they bring back my guy?
39:50 --> 39:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Or I guess our guy?
39:51 --> 39:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Matt Sheffler?
39:52 --> 39:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Please.
39:52 --> 39:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they should.
39:54 --> 39:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking of the catchers in the org.
39:57 --> 39:58 [SPEAKER_00]: His Luke Stevenson, like.
40:00 --> 40:01 [SPEAKER_00]: They see like the.
40:02 --> 40:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not, he's not closest to the big leagues, but in terms of like.
40:06 --> 40:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Catchers, they trust in the org.
40:09 --> 40:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I don't even know because I was thinking about double A. I don't even remember who was catching in double A last year because and she is not there anymore Or guys chefs not there anymore match-chefler I don't think that I do all kids there anymore Andy Thomas got traded at some point for somebody I don't even know I don't even know the catchers are at this point That would be another reason why they would go out and get make this move just so they're not totally screwed if well
40:38 --> 40:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I say they wouldn't be totally screwed of Cal got hurt.
40:41 --> 40:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me just state this plain and clear of Cal gets hurt.
40:44 --> 40:44 [SPEAKER_00]: They're fucked.
40:46 --> 40:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
40:46 --> 40:48 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's easy to over if you get this.
40:48 --> 40:51 [SPEAKER_00]: The season might, the season very much might be over if that happens.
40:51 --> 40:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, if Cal were to go on the 10 to 15 day IL with some injury where he just needed a couple weeks off, that's not what we mean.
40:59 --> 41:03 [SPEAKER_01]: But if he was ever going to miss significant time, like stick a fork in the season.
41:04 --> 41:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, it's not happening.
41:09 --> 41:10 [SPEAKER_00]: in your system?
41:11 --> 41:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Cal, you don't.
41:15 --> 41:15 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
41:15 --> 41:15 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
41:15 --> 41:18 [SPEAKER_01]: That is how Andrew Kizner plays 120 games.
41:19 --> 41:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Who do you think would put up better offensive numbers if they started 120 games?
41:24 --> 41:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Andrew Kizner or Tuffy Goswitch?
41:27 --> 41:28 [UNKNOWN]: No, God.
41:29 --> 41:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I think Kizner.
41:30 --> 41:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, Tuffy's like as bad as I've ever seen in a Mariners uniform.
41:34 --> 41:37 [SPEAKER_00]: What about Johnny Parada or Tuffy Goswitch?
41:42 --> 41:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm like, go for aida.
41:46 --> 41:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I've tell you, tell me this is bad as I've ever seen in America's uniform.
41:50 --> 42:01 [SPEAKER_01]: This reminds me what you're doing now reminds me of remember when us and the entire fan base by the tail end of the summer had just had enough of Dillon Moore and we were all like, okay, this is time for this to end.
42:01 --> 42:02 [SPEAKER_01]: He has to be defaid.
42:03 --> 42:10 [SPEAKER_01]: He can't be on the roster and you and I were so tired of it where it got to the point where we started a podcast episode.
42:10 --> 42:20 [SPEAKER_01]: talking about if felony and celestine and your hair Batista this second could put up more than a 130 OPS against lefties and the big leagues than Dylan Moore.
42:21 --> 42:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Cause remember, the number was Dylan Moore over a three month stretch up to the point where you got cut.
42:27 --> 42:56 [SPEAKER_01]: was he had a 130 OPS over a three-month stretch against left-handed pitching when his designation was to be there to hit left-handed pitching and you and I just started going through it's like okay could 20-year-old felonine cellist in right now who's struggling in able OPS 130 against lefties in the big leaves could your hair of a t-sa is not in even the couple actually yet could he OPS 130 him I think we said no but we went through like an
42:56 --> 43:10 [SPEAKER_01]: when you can't definitively say no he can't then you have a problem and when I can't definitively say between tubby goes which and Johnny Pareta well that speaks to tuffy's time in Seattle.
43:11 --> 43:12 [SPEAKER_01]: because they let top be start.
43:12 --> 43:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think parade is supposed to be like playing a bunch of games.
43:16 --> 43:17 [SPEAKER_01]: They let him start a lot.
43:18 --> 43:20 [SPEAKER_01]: It was, it wasn't as many as you remember.
43:20 --> 43:21 [SPEAKER_01]: He let them start.
43:21 --> 43:22 [SPEAKER_01]: It was like 30 games.
43:22 --> 43:29 [SPEAKER_01]: It was for a handful of games because I think Zenino got hurt at some point in 17, but I mean, it was an untenable watch.
43:29 --> 43:30 [SPEAKER_01]: You couldn't stand a Toro.
43:30 --> 43:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even think your memories are fun enough to remember those few weeks of toughy goes to which where it was, I mean, what do you mean?
43:38 --> 43:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's just a preview of what would happen this season.
43:41 --> 43:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, he was hitting O48 at one point.
43:44 --> 43:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was not.
43:45 --> 43:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Not good.
43:46 --> 43:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And this slogan percentage wasn't much higher.
43:48 --> 43:49 [SPEAKER_00]: If that, if higher at all.
43:49 --> 43:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna look up Tuffy's numbers and I'm Aaron's uniform and then we'll end this podcast because that's gonna be how we end this thing.
43:54 --> 43:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Tuffy goes to it in 2017 when he played with the Mariners.
43:58 --> 44:04 [SPEAKER_01]: He played 11 games, he played 11 games and lost them more than half a win.
44:04 --> 44:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
44:05 --> 44:19 [SPEAKER_01]: In 11 games he had a negative 0.6 war, he hit 071, his OPS was 175, his OPS plus was negative 50, and the man did not have an extra base hit.
44:19 --> 44:20 [SPEAKER_01]: He went to for 28.
44:21 --> 44:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Why does it feel like he played for longer?
44:24 --> 44:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's just the longest 11 games of our lives.
44:27 --> 44:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was, it was so bad.
44:30 --> 44:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what's funny?
44:31 --> 44:36 [SPEAKER_00]: The last two winter meetings, Lao and I walked the hallways up and down these hotels.
44:37 --> 44:38 [SPEAKER_00]: No, we've seen both times.
44:39 --> 44:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Tuffy goes switch.
44:40 --> 44:42 [SPEAKER_00]: And I just, I can't take it seriously.
44:42 --> 44:45 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, if I met him, I'd shake his hands and say nice to meet you.
44:45 --> 44:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Do I have to be honest with him that I just shot on him?
44:50 --> 44:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we didn't have a podcast back then, but we'd be holding back some laughs.
44:54 --> 44:54 [SPEAKER_01]: That's for sure.
44:55 --> 44:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah.
44:56 --> 44:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
44:57 --> 45:02 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, anyway, that's just about wraps up this edition of the Marine Lair of Podcast.
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