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00:26 --> 00:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to episode number 392 of the Marine Lair.
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01:25 --> 01:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast, part of the just baseball podcast network.
01:30 --> 01:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Recording you're on Sunday evening April 19th, I'll tell you what, while I feel so much better here on Sunday that I felt leaving the ballpark after Friday night.
01:41 --> 01:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Think about the change of the weekend that happened from game one to game three of the series.
01:45 --> 01:47 [SPEAKER_00]: It was pretty immense.
01:49 --> 01:55 [SPEAKER_01]: So, if I fast, if I fast track back to a week ago, what would have been the more surprising tweet?
01:56 --> 02:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Demarchus Lawrence saying that the most recent space landing or moon landing didn't happen, or that the Mariners beat a left handed picture.
02:10 --> 02:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what would I have believed more?
02:12 --> 02:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
02:14 --> 02:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I would have believed Demarchus Lawrence.
02:19 --> 02:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not saying he has it, but CTE is a real thing.
02:24 --> 02:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the Mariners versus left handed pictures at this, like, even before today, going into today, they're like, all right, the Mariners are going to lose two or three to the Rangers, at least they got one, thank goodness.
02:35 --> 02:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Because the lineup they rolled out here on Sunday, let's just be frank, it was like their C minus D plus lineup that they rolled out.
02:42 --> 02:44 [SPEAKER_00]: They had Connor Joe in the lineup.
02:44 --> 02:46 [SPEAKER_00]: They had Mitch Garver in the lineup.
02:46 --> 02:52 [SPEAKER_00]: But it ended up working out, because they finally were able to do something against a left-handed pitcher.
02:53 --> 02:57 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners splits against lefties, as we've continued to say, is just a trotace.
02:57 --> 03:14 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners, the Mariners right handed hitters, I think, against lefty starters this season, have an OPS of like 400, it's like 430, that gets you sent to double a, not your boy, double a with the kind of stats you put up like that.
03:15 --> 03:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Mariners get it done and I feel a lot better than I felt leaving the park on Fridays.
03:20 --> 03:33 [SPEAKER_00]: We were talking about this as we were walking to the car after the Mariners get shut out against the Rangers and like look, the Mariners at this point had lost four to row to the Rangers.
03:34 --> 03:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Note you only get 13 games against your divisional opponents and if the Rangers the way they look right now they look like they're the next best team in the division or the team you're going to
03:45 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_00]: you want the tiebreaker.
03:48 --> 03:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Mariners had the tiebreaker over the Houston Astros last year.
03:51 --> 03:53 [SPEAKER_00]: They were going to get swept again this weekend.
03:54 --> 03:57 [SPEAKER_00]: They would essentially have zero wiggle room to get a tiebreaker against the Texas Rangers.
03:58 --> 04:07 [SPEAKER_00]: So thank goodness they came back and they got two games and it's more manageable with I think seven games remaining against the Rangers that you're only down two to four in the season series.
04:07 --> 04:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because now you're two and four against them, not Owen six or even one and five.
04:11 --> 04:26 [SPEAKER_01]: We had said after Friday night, if the Mariners only split the final two games with the Rangers and lose this series, then you're one and five against Texas on the year, and you essentially have to go six and one in the final seven games against them to get the tiebreaker.
04:26 --> 04:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, you're in trouble.
04:28 --> 04:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Now it's a lot more manageable, because going five and two against them the rest of the way is certainly possible.
04:36 --> 04:43 [SPEAKER_00]: It's possible to go six on against the Rangers, but this is also a better Rangers team than the Mariners have seen the last couple of years that they've dominated.
04:43 --> 04:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Mariners have been able to out talent the Rangers in 2024 and 2025 when the Rangers have slipped due to poor health and an aging roster.
04:53 --> 04:57 [SPEAKER_00]: But this Rangers team's better, like Jacob DeGrombs, healthy, they traded for Mackenzie Gore.
04:57 --> 05:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Brad and Nimmo is an unreal acquisition for them, kind of jealous, I wish the Mariners might have acquired him.
05:03 --> 05:06 [SPEAKER_00]: The way he looks, he would have fit this roster.
05:06 --> 05:08 [SPEAKER_00]: pretty well, but like he looks great.
05:08 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_00]: So this Ranger's team is pretty good.
05:10 --> 05:12 [SPEAKER_00]: A course eager to stay healthy.
05:12 --> 05:14 [SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be pretty good.
05:15 --> 05:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's get the two games this weekend.
05:17 --> 05:17 [SPEAKER_00]: It's enormous.
05:18 --> 05:21 [SPEAKER_00]: And to have this, this version of the lineup, get a win here on Sunday.
05:21 --> 05:24 [SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's a big confidence boost for the depth of this roster.
05:24 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Huge.
05:25 --> 05:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Brandon Nemo is a really good player.
05:27 --> 05:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's a 900 OPS player.
05:30 --> 05:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's going to be that all year the way he's hitting right now, but you know he's a good player, you know he gets on base, you know he's got a good feel for the strike zone, and he's got to set the table at the top of their lineup very well.
05:42 --> 05:43 [SPEAKER_01]: So
05:44 --> 05:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, I don't think the Rangers are going to be a better team than the Mariners with the end of the day, but they do feel like the team that's going to give them the biggest threat at this point.
05:51 --> 05:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Because you know the A's have problems with their pitching, the Astros certainly have problems with their pitching, and the Angels are the Angels.
05:57 --> 06:00 [SPEAKER_01]: So who's the second toughest team in the division?
06:00 --> 06:02 [SPEAKER_01]: It's probably Texas, especially if they stay healthy.
06:03 --> 06:06 [SPEAKER_01]: But I will say to see the Mariners jump on Mackenzie Gore,
06:07 --> 06:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Really nice sign.
06:08 --> 06:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it wasn't just some scrub lefty they'd be.
06:10 --> 06:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Now McKenzie Gore is a really good lefty.
06:12 --> 06:16 [SPEAKER_01]: It was top 10 and strike outs last year across the game, and they beat him today.
06:17 --> 06:19 [SPEAKER_00]: We would have taken a win against a scrub lefty though.
06:19 --> 06:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we thought that's where it was going to start.
06:21 --> 06:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, all right, Patrick Corbin's going to come out of retirement and you he goes like He goes six itnings and three runs with the Mariners are able to squeak out of winning.
06:32 --> 06:38 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the confidence booster I'm why did I use Patrick Corbin my dad is when Patrick Corbin was the worst pitcher in baseball.
06:38 --> 06:40 [SPEAKER_00]: He dominated the Mariners
06:40 --> 06:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, has there been a more miserable two-game stretch in the last five years in Mariners baseball?
06:45 --> 06:53 [SPEAKER_01]: The next series against the Nationals in 2023, when the Mariners and extra innings, had bases loaded against the Nationals who were arguably the worst team in the league.
06:53 --> 06:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Bases loaded with nobody out.
06:56 --> 07:04 [SPEAKER_01]: struck out three times to bring nobody in, lost that game, and then the next day, get absolutely carved up by seven ERA Patrick Corbin.
07:05 --> 07:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, seriously.
07:06 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_00]: People wonder why the 2023 Mariners is probably the most frustrating Mariners team of all time up there with the 96 team.
07:13 --> 07:14 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why.
07:14 --> 07:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
07:16 --> 07:17 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, look, the Rangers are good.
07:18 --> 07:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Do we think, do we think Corey Seger's
07:26 --> 07:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah, I mean, well, he hasn't done a whole lot of winning in Seattle last two years, but otherwise for other reasons, I'd say yes, well, and I'm guessing he's probably Kyle Seger's correspondent.
07:36 --> 07:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm guessing he doesn't really look forward to these.
07:38 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't carry in a Jerry, a conversation in the hall by chance.
07:42 --> 07:43 [SPEAKER_00]: I doubt it.
07:43 --> 07:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to doubt it.
07:45 --> 07:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I got to say, though, if people want a little bit of a peek behind the curtains, you want to know one thing we've picked up from being at the ballpark.
07:53 --> 07:53 [SPEAKER_01]: So,
07:54 --> 08:03 [SPEAKER_01]: We've been out the ballpark doing our stuff for roughly three seasons now, and I will tell you, the Rangers come to town twice a year.
08:04 --> 08:06 [SPEAKER_01]: not every player always hits on the field.
08:07 --> 08:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Cal doesn't always hit a lot on the field a lot.
08:09 --> 08:10 [SPEAKER_01]: He does a lot of his stuff in the cage.
08:10 --> 08:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Brennan Donovan doesn't hit on the field of time.
08:12 --> 08:13 [SPEAKER_01]: He does stuff in the cage.
08:14 --> 08:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Carlos Correa, if you want to road example, always hits in the cage.
08:18 --> 08:21 [SPEAKER_01]: But the guy's like Correa and Donovan to use the Mariners as an example.
08:22 --> 08:28 [SPEAKER_01]: They're always out there at least taking in field before they go inside to hit in the cage, even if they're time out on the field is short.
08:29 --> 08:34 [SPEAKER_01]: In over three years, I have not seen Corey Seaguer take one infield ground ball.
08:34 --> 08:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Ever.
08:35 --> 08:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know how this guy gets ready to play games without actually having to field ground balls ahead of each and every contest, but somehow the man is decided like I don't need to take infield on a daily basis, I'm just going to run out there and play.
08:49 --> 08:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he has never once been on the field.
08:53 --> 08:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Teach their own.
08:54 --> 08:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's really weird, man.
08:56 --> 09:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, it's the only time I've really ever seen something like that.
09:00 --> 09:01 [SPEAKER_01]: It's one thing of a D-H of an out there.
09:02 --> 09:04 [SPEAKER_01]: But Corey Seager's, you're ever at a short stop.
09:04 --> 09:05 [SPEAKER_01]: He's never out there.
09:06 --> 09:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's a good defender, too.
09:08 --> 09:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what Corey Seager's process is.
09:12 --> 09:23 [SPEAKER_00]: They're very well could be space where he's taking some sort of ground ball work, or at least hand-eye coordination work on a wall or something to get himself ready for ground balls.
09:23 --> 09:29 [SPEAKER_00]: But it is the definition of like every player has their own routine to get themselves ready to play baseball games.
09:29 --> 09:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Some players hit on the field every day, take ground balls every day, and they're out and about.
09:34 --> 09:41 [SPEAKER_00]: And then some players are like course eager who again, we have never seen... Well we get to stand on the field and see these players work out before the game.
09:42 --> 09:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I've never actually seen Corey Seger's face out in the dugout.
09:45 --> 09:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Ever.
09:46 --> 09:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Have seen everyone else's?
09:48 --> 09:52 [SPEAKER_01]: But that's why it's weird because everybody else is out there taking ground balls, right?
09:52 --> 09:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Everybody else is out there getting their in-field work in and their pre-game work in, but not him.
09:58 --> 09:58 [SPEAKER_00]: All the veterans.
10:00 --> 10:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, except him.
10:01 --> 10:06 [SPEAKER_00]: He is the highest paid, so he get, he can, I know, he get dictated schedule however he likes.
10:07 --> 10:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's a little bit of tinfoil hat in me that says, this guy just mailed it in since getting his contract, but at the same time he's still their best player.
10:15 --> 10:32 [SPEAKER_00]: and he's still really good right he's still a really good hitter and he's a really good defender there's a friend of the pod uh... foolish bayley did a video on quarry seaguer and like how technical he is as a player like his defense is
10:33 --> 10:34 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not, it's not a case study.
10:34 --> 10:37 [SPEAKER_00]: He just like never messes up on defense.
10:37 --> 10:39 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not the, the rangeiest.
10:39 --> 10:42 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not the most athletic, a short stop, but he doesn't mess up really.
10:43 --> 10:48 [SPEAKER_00]: And then his plan when he hits is pretty crazy with how he taxed first pitches.
10:48 --> 10:50 [SPEAKER_00]: So whatever he's doing, it clearly works.
10:50 --> 10:51 [SPEAKER_00]: He got him paid.
10:51 --> 10:52 [SPEAKER_00]: He won a world series.
10:52 --> 10:54 [SPEAKER_00]: He finished runner up in MVP.
10:54 --> 10:56 [SPEAKER_00]: He's still one of the best players in baseball.
10:56 --> 10:59 [SPEAKER_00]: But the way goes about about it from what we can see.
10:59 --> 11:19 [SPEAKER_00]: very different it's it's a little odd it's a little odd it's it's not something we really ever see otherwise so now I'll say to be fair we're talking about Brandon Nemo I don't think I don't like we saw Brandon Nemo out this weekend either like we saw him really early uh like when we got there on Friday he was on the phone with somebody
11:20 --> 11:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I have another thing I need to bring up here in a second that we saw really early that I've never seen before and I want to get people's opinion on But Brandon Nemo, we saw him saw him really early on Friday.
11:31 --> 11:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to get him for bullpen banner because He's very interesting.
11:35 --> 11:35 [SPEAKER_00]: He's Brandon Nemo.
11:35 --> 11:37 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a good Major League baseball player of course.
11:37 --> 11:38 [SPEAKER_00]: We want to get him on
11:39 --> 11:42 [SPEAKER_00]: He said he had to go in, but he said, yeah, I got you guys whenever I come back out.
11:42 --> 11:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude did not come back out either day.
11:44 --> 11:46 [SPEAKER_00]: He was not on the field at all.
11:46 --> 11:46 [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't.
11:46 --> 11:54 [SPEAKER_00]: The thing about, well, I'll mention with Cory and Nemo in this situation, not only are they not taking ground balls, like everyone goes out on the line and throws to warm up.
11:56 --> 11:57 [SPEAKER_00]: They don't throw it out there.
11:58 --> 12:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I think that's a little more common for Outfielders because you don't always see Outfielders doing pre-game Outfield work and taking flyballs.
12:05 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not as much of a thing.
12:06 --> 12:10 [SPEAKER_01]: You always see the infielders getting work, which is why I think with the infielder it's a little more interesting.
12:11 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Outfielders, somebody like Nemo, I'm not as surprised.
12:14 --> 12:16 [SPEAKER_01]: But don't you need to throw?
12:16 --> 12:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Well yeah, I can warm up.
12:19 --> 12:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, again, the seeger thing is very weird.
12:22 --> 12:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
12:23 --> 12:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, so if people want one little peak behind the curtain to stuff we see, I mean, we can try to give people a lot, but if you want another peak behind the curtain to stuff we see, yeah, never seen Cory see her out there pregame.
12:35 --> 12:53 [SPEAKER_00]: the other thing I want to bring up that we saw that I'd like I'm not here to like out and anybody do you want to use do you want to use just player x like keep the name keep the name you're all use player x yeah but I will say loud I saw something this weekend that I don't think I've ever seen before
12:53 --> 12:58 [SPEAKER_00]: So a veteran player player X for the Rangers was out pregame.
12:58 --> 13:00 [SPEAKER_00]: This isn't like a workout scenario.
13:00 --> 13:05 [SPEAKER_00]: This isn't like the guys taking batting practice or ground balls or fly balls or any of this stuff.
13:05 --> 13:07 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's just pregame.
13:07 --> 13:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Might have been on the phone.
13:09 --> 13:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't exactly remember.
13:11 --> 13:22 [SPEAKER_00]: We saw player X taking a very slow walk out to the Rangers bullpad, smoking a cigar, pregame.
13:22 --> 13:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I had to do a double take when this player walked past us, and I was like, like, I was like, wow, is that a cigar?
13:31 --> 13:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, yeah.
13:32 --> 13:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, to be fair, I don't know if he actually lit it or not.
13:36 --> 13:37 [SPEAKER_01]: He just, oh, it was lit.
13:38 --> 13:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it was, I could smell it.
13:41 --> 13:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, I,
13:43 --> 13:46 [SPEAKER_01]: But can you smell cigars that they're not?
13:46 --> 13:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so I don't know if it was lit to be fair.
13:49 --> 13:53 [SPEAKER_01]: But he had it in his hand and I was like, well that's different.
13:54 --> 13:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Is he carrying around a cigar to not smoke it?
13:58 --> 14:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I have both parts empty by the way.
14:00 --> 14:02 [SPEAKER_00]: There's no one to give the cigar to.
14:03 --> 14:06 [SPEAKER_01]: You, again, maybe the Rangers are an odd team.
14:06 --> 14:10 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot of old, highly paid veterans.
14:11 --> 14:36 [SPEAKER_00]: We spend the most time around the Mariners watching these guys prepare, and I'm just trying to think in like the mind of a professional athlete Is the way to best prepare to play a baseball game that like four hours before the game I'm walking on the field and puffing on a cigar Maybe when babe Ruth played sure it's twenty twenty six Again
14:37 --> 14:38 [SPEAKER_01]: You want to know what I take away from the rangers.
14:38 --> 14:39 [SPEAKER_01]: They're a bit of an odd club.
14:40 --> 14:41 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I think.
14:41 --> 14:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, there are some guys we talk to on that team.
14:43 --> 14:44 [SPEAKER_01]: They're very nice.
14:44 --> 14:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying those guys don't work hard.
14:47 --> 14:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying those guys don't have their own routines.
14:49 --> 14:53 [SPEAKER_01]: But some of said routines, little lad.
14:54 --> 14:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't mean there's not hard work, bottled up into it, but yes.
14:59 --> 15:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I would be pretty confident to say you will not see any mariners on the field with the cigar in their hands a few hours before a game that the nobody that would embody that it doesn't make sense to me but to each their own workout for the Rangers on Friday not so much for the other two days that we can yeah we do have some more mariners store lines I want to talk about loud but before that let's pause for an end.
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16:37 --> 16:39 [SPEAKER_00]: What else do we want to discuss with this offense?
16:40 --> 16:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was going to say let's get into some mariners talk here because we just gave people a few minutes on weird rangers things we saw over the weekend, which is great, but I'm sure people want to hear about our own club that won two of three.
16:50 --> 16:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say if you want to start anywhere,
16:54 --> 17:09 [SPEAKER_01]: again, how about the fact that they beat a lefty with a line up they ran out there that I don't think anybody expected to have much of a day offensively and then Rob Ruff Snyder thank goodness, thank goodness for him, thank goodness for the team, thank goodness for the fans, everybody.
17:09 --> 17:10 [SPEAKER_01]: He wasted no time.
17:10 --> 17:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Mackenzie Gore pumps in a first pitch fastball.
17:13 --> 17:14 [SPEAKER_01]: He was not waiting around.
17:14 --> 17:18 [SPEAKER_01]: He jumped on that thing and not only racked up his first head of the year, but his first homer.
17:19 --> 17:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Shout out Rob Ruff Snyder.
17:20 --> 17:30 [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't mention that he was doing any of the thing that Nailer did when he had the two Homer game where Kevin siders like, why don't you try it like, can he get any worse?
17:30 --> 17:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I think just do that, I think that's what Rob Ruff side was thinking is like, if Mackenzie Gore's story is fast, well, I'm swinging as hard as I humanly can because it cannot get any worse than this, maybe that was it.
17:42 --> 17:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy for Rob, beating a lefty so that the numbers, the exact numbers that I threw out earlier.
17:49 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners versus left handed Star, or for his left handers overall, have a 483 OPS and a 713, as opposed to a 713 OPS against right handed starters, or sorry, that's just overall pitchers, but it's the same thing if the other teams throwing a starter.
18:09 --> 18:17 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not like the manners of faced murderers' row of lefties to begin the season haven't faced Terkscubal, they've faced framer yet, but still they've struggled.
18:18 --> 18:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they've gotten a couple tough lefties, they had freed, they've had gore, gore twice, there's them in nobody.
18:24 --> 18:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Gore.
18:26 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_00]: But they did finally get on which is nice and this line up on Sunday in case you guys If you need a need a refresher on on who's plants a ref snider, of course hitless We're leaning off in this line up.
18:38 --> 18:48 [SPEAKER_00]: You'd call the aging Julio Julio in center and then Randy like those guys At the end of the day or also supposed to be producing against right-handed pictures
18:49 --> 19:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Mitch Garver, starting a catcher, batting up, shh, shh, shh, shh, I get to math, fifth and line up, and Conor Joe batting six, then then three lefties to finish out, or two lefties in a switch header.
19:02 --> 19:12 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not the most powerful lineup of all time against a right hand to batter, but I can see a scenario in this case where this line up can hold its own against a lefty.
19:13 --> 19:18 [SPEAKER_00]: If everyone is performing, and I'm switching Conor Joe for Josh
19:19 --> 19:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I assume Josh No is going to pick it up at some point, and he's going to perform, just hasn't performed yet, and that's why he got a day off today.
19:26 --> 19:29 [SPEAKER_00]: But, Reft's already as a radio at the top of the lineup.
19:29 --> 19:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, dude crushers, left handers.
19:31 --> 19:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully this is the first of many home runs and base hits against lefties this season.
19:36 --> 19:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Calflips around bats right handed against lefties.
19:39 --> 19:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Calhada 1000 OPS against lefty pitchers last year.
19:43 --> 19:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Julio, right-hand here, star player, what else could we say?
19:46 --> 19:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Randy Rosarina has been the second best hitter on this team, besides Luke Raylee this season.
19:52 --> 20:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Mitch Garver, there's one thing he does well offensively, it's hit left handed pitching, and that's a role offensively the Mariners could have for him, and then you have Nailer, who doesn't have, for his career, really, platoon splits.
20:06 --> 20:13 [SPEAKER_00]: JP Crawford and Cole Young, at least for this season, for JP to pass few seasons, for
20:13 --> 20:15 [SPEAKER_00]: don't have platoon splits either.
20:16 --> 20:24 [SPEAKER_00]: You start talking yourself into a line up that when it's playing as it should, can hit lefties.
20:24 --> 20:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it should on paper.
20:26 --> 20:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, baseball's played on grass is that meme you've sent to me.
20:30 --> 20:36 [SPEAKER_00]: It's played on grass, not on his fredge sheet, but there is a scenario I think you could talk yourself into it.
20:37 --> 20:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what's the meme?
20:37 --> 20:42 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the soccer coach that said we had the team on paper, unfortunately the games played on grass.
20:43 --> 20:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's kind of, that's a good describeer of this podcast.
20:49 --> 20:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I think us.
20:50 --> 20:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, we talk about it on paper with the games played on grass.
20:54 --> 20:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's true.
20:55 --> 20:56 [SPEAKER_01]: We talk a lot about on paper.
20:57 --> 20:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and stuff's played on grass.
20:58 --> 21:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, that's why I had a blast talking with our guy Ryan Healey this weekend because Ryan understands the numbers and he looks into all of it and, you know, he's a pretty forward thinker.
21:09 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_01]: but talk into him.
21:11 --> 21:20 [SPEAKER_01]: He does give us some perspective on things we may not think about just as two baseball nerds of podcast for a living where we see everything on a spreadsheet.
21:20 --> 21:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And he'll give us some intel from, oh well here's what a lot of teams think about and players think about that maybe
21:27 --> 21:29 [SPEAKER_01]: often will miss and we won't think about.
21:29 --> 21:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember any of the specific ones he mentioned now that I was trying to I'm trying to think about it on this so okay so honestly the one we were having conversation about him with was the send on Friday which was again you see the screenshot
21:46 --> 21:48 [SPEAKER_01]: It looks horrendous.
21:48 --> 21:49 [SPEAKER_01]: It still was horrendous.
21:49 --> 21:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really understand the send.
21:51 --> 21:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I still don't think it was a good send.
21:52 --> 22:09 [SPEAKER_01]: But to just hear Ryan's perspective on it, what he said was, it was at the point in the game where you had absolutely nothing going offensively and you were looking for any sort of spark and you were trying to just make the guy make a mistake on a throw from the outfield.
22:09 --> 22:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it was a short throw and yes, lying for it's a very good
22:16 --> 22:23 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, when your bench is down and the energy is low, what can you do to try to spark your bench?
22:23 --> 22:28 [SPEAKER_01]: You got to go to score there and it could ignite some energy that maybe starts to spark a bit of a rally.
22:28 --> 22:29 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what they were going for there.
22:30 --> 22:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, if you were to ask me and to ask TJ, I would still probably sit here and tell you.
22:34 --> 22:36 [SPEAKER_01]: In my personal opinion,
22:36 --> 22:58 [SPEAKER_01]: a ridiculous thing and to be fair to Ryan's credit he's like obviously like when you look at it you look at the screen shot you look at it watching on TV it doesn't look great but if i were to try to explain why i think a team would do that or why a base coach would do that it's because when you don't have anything going all night offensively you're looking for some spark and maybe the next guy's just going to pop out strike out
22:58 --> 23:00 [SPEAKER_01]: that could be your chance to really try to ignite something.
23:01 --> 23:06 [SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't know, it's things like that that, yeah, you and I are probably not going to sit here and think about it.
23:06 --> 23:16 [SPEAKER_01]: If we didn't talk to Healy this weekend, we're probably sitting here on Friday or sitting here talking about Friday's game, and that's saying that was the worst decision I've ever seen from a third base coach.
23:16 --> 23:19 [SPEAKER_01]: But when you hear Healy's perspective on it, I was like, okay, that's interesting.
23:19 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_00]: where they have the mentality in that moment of, is it gonna get any worse?
23:24 --> 23:26 [SPEAKER_00]: If he gets thrown out, is it gonna get any worse?
23:26 --> 23:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
23:26 --> 23:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Because right now, we need some sort of positive juice.
23:29 --> 23:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
23:30 --> 23:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, speaking of Ryan Healy, shout out our guy, like for it, doing his first two ever bigly games this weekend, he was great.
23:38 --> 23:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I really enjoyed the dynamic of having Ryan Healy in the booth, Ryan Roll and Smith in the dugout.
23:46 --> 23:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was super interesting to listen to them talk about Brian Wu's pitching today.
23:54 --> 24:01 [SPEAKER_00]: They would just golly would shut up and the two of them would just bounce back and forth of like what they're picking up with him.
24:02 --> 24:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, listen, we're just two dumb podcasters, but if people need an endorsement,
24:08 --> 24:10 [SPEAKER_01]: We, he's got our endorsement.
24:10 --> 24:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I know Healy's slated to do a few more games to start the year, and obviously they brought him on in some sort of role for this season, like he explained to us when he was on the podcast with us.
24:20 --> 24:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Man, I hope he keeps doing more games.
24:22 --> 24:22 [SPEAKER_01]: He was great.
24:23 --> 24:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I want to see everybody stay in the rotation and everybody get their reps, but I would love to see Healy do a bunch more.
24:29 --> 24:35 [SPEAKER_01]: And like he said to us when he was on the podcast with us a few weeks ago, he said, I'm sure the first few are gonna be
24:35 --> 24:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Emmy Award winning broadcast, but that's why I'm going to lean on goalie.
24:39 --> 24:40 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why I'm going to lean on the people around me.
24:40 --> 24:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's why I want to like soak up as much as I can and learn a bunch of things.
24:44 --> 24:45 [SPEAKER_01]: So I can keep getting better at this.
24:46 --> 24:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, honestly, I think Healy's got a chance to like stay in this booth a really long time.
24:51 --> 24:53 [SPEAKER_01]: If he chooses to do so, and be very good at it.
24:53 --> 25:00 [SPEAKER_01]: So you want analysis of two idiot podcasters through two games, what we thought of a color commentator who we happened to really like.
25:00 --> 25:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought Healy was great.
25:03 --> 25:08 [SPEAKER_00]: If it's not something you are paying attention to during this weekend, he will have the three games this week.
25:08 --> 25:14 [SPEAKER_00]: You can see it's down in front of your TV actually turn the volume up and let's do it.
25:14 --> 25:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Me he studies a lot.
25:16 --> 25:19 [SPEAKER_00]: He was telling us he will watch.
25:19 --> 25:38 [SPEAKER_00]: he'll watch every game of course he will study the last couple starts for the starting pitcher going into it and trying to write down as many trends and thoughts that come to mind while watching this stuff and then stuff he can intertwine into the game and he said that he'll go back and watch every pitch of
25:39 --> 25:42 [SPEAKER_01]: for the starter slated to pitch in that series, each of their last couple starts.
25:43 --> 25:49 [SPEAKER_01]: And he wants to know, well, yeah, like you said, all the trends and all the things that he can soak up and talk about on the broadcast.
25:49 --> 25:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you could tell he was very, very ready to talk about McKenzie Gore on this broadcast today.
25:53 --> 25:55 [SPEAKER_01]: And he said, his curve ball's been unheadable.
25:56 --> 25:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody's hit it.
25:57 --> 25:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody's recorded a hit against it.
25:59 --> 26:02 [SPEAKER_01]: You could tell he was ready to talk about that stuff and plenty more.
26:02 --> 26:04 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's a guy who comes from a hitting perspective.
26:05 --> 26:08 [SPEAKER_01]: He was doing everything he could to also be prepared to talk about all the pitchers.
26:08 --> 26:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Who's great?
26:10 --> 26:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Another reason I think the Mariners' offense today was so important, like, I lost my train of thought when we were talking about Lefty Starters.
26:18 --> 26:21 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners facing Lefty Starters and why today was so important.
26:22 --> 26:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I just want you to have some perspective about Mariners' hitters against Lefty Starters so far this season, and why what we saw on Sunday was so much different than what we've seen this season.
26:32 --> 26:39 [SPEAKER_00]: You can say, TJ, no shit, they've lost every game, yeah, I know, I know that, but the numbers look even worse than just Windsor losses.
26:40 --> 26:52 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners among every player with 10 plate appearances, 10 plate appearances against a lefty starter so far this season have one player with a OPS above 600.
26:55 --> 26:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 600.
26:56 --> 26:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's really bad.
26:57 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_00]: It's really bad.
26:59 --> 27:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Cole Young has a 947 OPS against left-handed starters this season, which is Shadow Cole Young, Holy Shit.
27:07 --> 27:35 [SPEAKER_00]: the next highest on players with at least ten plate appearances against a lefty starters Brendan Donovan with a five ninety four also Brendan Donovan's not supposed to really hit left handed pedigying and he's that huh uh huh yet notice how it's like the two lefties at the top of that that's not good yeah where is Randy where's Julio where's
27:37 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, if the Mariners are going to have any success against right-handed pitching, you need to hoolio to mash, you need Cal to mash, you need Randy to mash, and you need ref starter to mash.
27:47 --> 27:48 [SPEAKER_01]: You just do.
27:48 --> 27:50 [SPEAKER_01]: JP Crawford's actually an okay hitter against lefties.
27:51 --> 28:01 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not expected to do a ref starter does, but he is no liability in there as a left-on-left matchup, but you need the guys that are expected to do damage against lefties to do the damage.
28:01 --> 28:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad they did today.
28:05 --> 28:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we saw some stuff from Julio this weekend as well, which was really good.
28:08 --> 28:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Our friend Titan gets all as toyed at this out, and the stats stand entering Sunday's game, but still nonetheless very good.
28:15 --> 28:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Julio is running an OPS of just over 700 right now, the last three weeks.
28:20 --> 28:27 [SPEAKER_00]: His strikeout rate is about what it was last season, his walk rate is up a little bit from that moment.
28:27 --> 28:28 [SPEAKER_00]: It's almost 10%.
28:28 --> 28:35 [SPEAKER_00]: The hard hit rate is not all the way there, but overall Julio's been about 15% of bubbly average the last three weeks.
28:37 --> 28:58 [SPEAKER_00]: And if like this is what a good Julio April looks like, it will help him later in the season, if this year is not Julio having a 50 WRC plus an April, instead he's going to be like a 110 in April, and then potentially higher on going forward.
28:58 --> 29:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Around Julio right now is Cal who still has not figured it out really.
29:03 --> 29:11 [SPEAKER_00]: We talk about Cal here in a second and then Josh Naylor who got a day off against the lefty today because he has not been hitting.
29:11 --> 29:15 [SPEAKER_00]: He had his two own runs against the Astros and it's been nothing else since.
29:16 --> 29:23 [SPEAKER_00]: So to have Julio at least bringing the water level up a little bit for the middle of that line up has been really nice.
29:25 --> 29:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you ready to shift off the topic of left handed pitching and go to something else?
29:28 --> 29:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Because if you are, if you are, I want to add in one more thing.
29:32 --> 29:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Because this is the chance I have to add it in and I'm going to double down on this.
29:36 --> 29:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to double down on the take I had back in the offseason.
29:40 --> 29:48 [SPEAKER_01]: If the Mariners want to continue to get better against left handed pitching, some of it will be in-house, some of it I'm sure will have to be at the deadline.
29:48 --> 29:51 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to double down on the take I had in the offseason.
29:51 --> 29:55 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm really thinking could very much be back on this team at the deadline.
29:57 --> 29:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Poor April Arco.
29:59 --> 30:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, there's a caveat here.
30:01 --> 30:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Polo has been banged up to start the year, and he hasn't hit great.
30:05 --> 30:06 [SPEAKER_01]: That's going to have to turn around for him.
30:06 --> 30:10 [SPEAKER_01]: But if Polo is hitting by the deadline, oh, I think he's back on this team.
30:10 --> 30:14 [SPEAKER_01]: The meds if you haven't noticed, have lost 11 in a row.
30:14 --> 30:22 [SPEAKER_01]: And for all the Metz fans that got really mad at me right after Polo signed, and I said that, yeah, he's just gonna be back on this team at the deadline.
30:22 --> 30:26 [SPEAKER_01]: The Metz were the Metz, they're probably gonna fall short of expectations, and he's only on a two-year deal.
30:26 --> 30:29 [SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna verlander him and sell him off after half a year.
30:30 --> 30:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't shut that door.
30:32 --> 30:36 [SPEAKER_01]: If Polo's hitting a hundred or 200 by the deadline, then yeah, the Mariners aren't gonna trade back form.
30:37 --> 30:44 [SPEAKER_01]: If Polo's back to be in 2025 Polo or even some semblance of it, circle that.
30:45 --> 30:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Where would he play?
30:47 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Probably, D.H.
30:48 --> 30:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
30:51 --> 30:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm, the Mariners have multiple D.H.s.
30:55 --> 31:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess it depends on who's really performing in right field by that point, but say Luke Raylee's in right field against lefties.
31:04 --> 31:05 [SPEAKER_01]: or I against Rites.
31:06 --> 31:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Polo with DH those days, I feel like.
31:08 --> 31:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And then again, he goes back to the role he was in before.
31:10 --> 31:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Like maybe he mixes in here and they're at a position a couple times a week.
31:14 --> 31:18 [SPEAKER_01]: But mostly he'd be DHing against a Ritey.
31:18 --> 31:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And then when there's a lefty on the mound, maybe that's your chance to put him out in the field.
31:21 --> 31:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Because if Reft Snyder needs to DH, Polo could go play, I don't know, third base, second base.
31:27 --> 31:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying it would be great out there, but if you got to get him in line up,
31:31 --> 31:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you realize this has a chance to be your greatest take of all time that if it actually happens saying I called it the day the day he signed with the meds I wish Kyle Tucker was my greatest take of all time but it's good that like you shook it off and you came back with your fastball with Paul ever left let's true well I guess the polo fastball came first because Kyle
31:59 --> 32:01 [SPEAKER_01]: or end January.
32:01 --> 32:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So I had the fastball for Polo early.
32:05 --> 32:07 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's almost like you were hedging.
32:08 --> 32:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a little.
32:09 --> 32:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I had it in the back pocket, but yeah, don't don't close that door.
32:14 --> 32:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, the Metz of Lost 11 in a row.
32:17 --> 32:22 [SPEAKER_00]: So this is the continued example that.
32:22 --> 32:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, spending a ton of money like the Dodgers gives you an incredible advantage over other teams when it comes to acquiring talent.
32:31 --> 32:33 [SPEAKER_00]: As you can tell, there are two different ways it can go.
32:34 --> 32:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think they're playing out right now.
32:37 --> 32:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you have to spend smart.
32:39 --> 32:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't excuse teams for not spending, but you do have to spend smart.
32:43 --> 32:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Would the Dodgers have spent $20 million a year on Jorge Polanco?
32:49 --> 32:50 [SPEAKER_00]: It's probably unlikely.
32:51 --> 33:04 [SPEAKER_00]: The I'm gonna just know they would not have spent 20 million dollars a year on Jorge Polanco Freddy Freeman is barely making more than that That's got desperate they lost Pete and said okay, we got to find somebody else
33:06 --> 33:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Other things about this offense, I get to give a shout out to Randy Rosarena.
33:10 --> 33:14 [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about his bats being beaten down a couple of, like, a week and a half ago.
33:14 --> 33:16 [SPEAKER_00]: That was sort of an negative connotation.
33:16 --> 33:19 [SPEAKER_00]: We haven't talked about him in terms of a positive connotation.
33:20 --> 33:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Smean has over a 400 on base percentage right now.
33:22 --> 33:25 [SPEAKER_00]: He is walking more than he ever has.
33:25 --> 33:28 [SPEAKER_00]: He is striking out less than he ever has.
33:28 --> 33:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And it seems to be working.
33:30 --> 33:32 [SPEAKER_00]: The raw power numbers aren't there.
33:32 --> 33:44 [SPEAKER_00]: But he's like he's good like he's he's a little bit different than the Randy we're used to seeing and it has been It's been great It hasn't been great.
33:44 --> 33:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Also he's striking out less.
33:46 --> 33:48 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't have that on my bingo car this year to do
33:49 --> 33:52 [SPEAKER_00]: This strike a rate right now is I clicked on the wrong player.
33:52 --> 33:55 [SPEAKER_00]: His strike out rate is under 20% right now.
33:55 --> 34:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's currently 17, 17% and by the way, he's parlaying that with a walk rate that's about 13% I did not have Randy on my bingo card drawing a bunch of walks and cutting his strikeouts down to 120% I hope it stays like that all year we're probably going to need more time to see.
34:13 --> 34:20 [SPEAKER_01]: But man, if he's changed some things around where he's got a better plate discipline up there, and he's not withing all the time, sign me the hell out, man.
34:21 --> 34:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to, he started off pretty hot last year too, didn't he?
34:24 --> 34:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me see.
34:27 --> 34:28 [SPEAKER_00]: What April of last year, you mean?
34:29 --> 34:33 [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, yeah, he was good in April last year too.
34:33 --> 34:48 [SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting, he, uh, in April of last year, Randy had a 127 WRC plus he was, so he's striking out a bit last year at this point, 29%, it's also walking 16% of the time, so.
34:48 --> 35:07 [SPEAKER_01]: well where it all went south for Randy last year was basically once you hit the month of August because August and then September and then the playoffs were disaster but those first four months I mean he was he was great and he had a couple different stretches in that period of time where he was hotter than the sun I mean it was the hottest player on the team.
35:09 --> 35:14 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's been it's been a really big help for the middle of the Mariners lineup to have Randy Rosarina.
35:14 --> 35:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I think next week if he has another good week, I think we can dive a little deeper in on Randy.
35:18 --> 35:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd love to dive in on Julio too if he also has a really good week this week where we can really
35:24 --> 35:33 [SPEAKER_00]: get down to it and tell you guys why they're doing what they are instead of a little bit more of a service level conversation, but we'll see how this week plays out.
35:33 --> 35:39 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners love some home games, love some road games, and I hope we'll have some some good stuff to talk about.
35:40 --> 35:50 [SPEAKER_00]: The other thing I was thinking about when I'm watching Cole Young at the bottom of the lineup, because there was a lot of questions for us for moving Cole Young up in the lineup after his really hot first week.
35:50 --> 36:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Since that first week, Cole Young has a 105 WRC plus, so he's been about a league advertiser at that point and his offensive profile is almost exactly like it was.
36:00 --> 36:02 [SPEAKER_00]: one last year when he's a rookie.
36:02 --> 36:13 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a ton of walks, not a lot of strikeouts, but a lot of value coming from the fact that he's getting walked at this point, 16.7% of the time.
36:13 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_00]: That's sort of booing that offensive number up a little bit and covering for a cold couple of weeks.
36:19 --> 36:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Koli young still got to play probably a couple more months before we have a better idea of what kind of offensive player he's going to be for this entire season.
36:28 --> 36:30 [SPEAKER_00]: But we've seen the
36:30 --> 36:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I think.
36:31 --> 36:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Just kind of like last year.
36:33 --> 36:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the biggest thing for him is he's doing more damage to the fastballs.
36:36 --> 36:47 [SPEAKER_01]: We talked about earlier or before the start of the season that that was Cole Young's biggest thing last year is he just didn't get on time with forcing fastballs and he wasn't doing damage against him.
36:48 --> 36:50 [SPEAKER_01]: His slugging percentage against fastballs last year was 256.
36:51 --> 36:52 [SPEAKER_01]: That's really, really low.
36:53 --> 37:02 [SPEAKER_01]: You fast forward to now, he's hitting 263, so his batting average right now against fastballs is higher than a slugging percentage from last year, and his slugging is 474.
37:03 --> 37:07 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not an astronomical number against fastballs, but it's a very, very good number.
37:07 --> 37:11 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a healthy number and it shows that he is on time and doing what he's supposed to be doing.
37:11 --> 37:15 [SPEAKER_01]: When he gets a pitch straight and then the zone, he takes advantage.
37:15 --> 37:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope that keeps up the rest of the year or some semblance of it keeps up the rest of the year.
37:19 --> 37:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Because that just lifts the floor of Cole Young's games so much.
37:23 --> 37:28 [SPEAKER_01]: If he makes pitchers respect him with the fastball, it opens up a whole lot.
37:29 --> 37:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's opening up a whole lot for him right now, even if there's been some hot and cold.
37:33 --> 37:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Even if that first week he was red hot and then it's been a little bit more of a hill and valley type of pace since then.
37:39 --> 37:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Hitting the fastball is doing a
37:42 --> 37:47 [SPEAKER_00]: It is going to be hard for cold to maintain this walk rate for this one specific reason.
37:47 --> 37:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at his savant profile right now and Koliang currently has a 7th percentile average eggs of velocity, which is really low.
37:57 --> 38:00 [SPEAKER_00]: It is below 85 miles an hour.
38:00 --> 38:04 [SPEAKER_00]: It's about three miles an hour slower than what he did last season.
38:05 --> 38:12 [SPEAKER_00]: The problem when you're not consistently doing damage on pitches in the middle of the strike zone is that pitchers are unafraid to challenge you.
38:13 --> 38:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Because hypothetically, if I knew you couldn't hit for any power at all, why wouldn't I throw a pitch right down the middle?
38:21 --> 38:25 [SPEAKER_00]: What's the worst that would happen to me if I threw a pitch right down the middle to you?
38:27 --> 38:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess the answer you'd be looking for is it's a single or some type of soft contact hit.
38:33 --> 38:38 [SPEAKER_01]: But isn't this kind of contradicting what I just said, he's making pitchers respect him more now because he's hitting the fastball.
38:40 --> 38:44 [SPEAKER_00]: But he is hitting the fastball, but he's not doing as much damage.
38:45 --> 38:47 [SPEAKER_01]: He's slugging for 70, that's damage.
38:50 --> 38:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of.
38:50 --> 38:56 [SPEAKER_00]: But the raw number, like the raw total numbers of coal-yungs offensive profile, don't
38:58 --> 39:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he doesn't hit the ball on the button every time he's up there.
39:02 --> 39:04 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why he's average exit velocities, not that high.
39:04 --> 39:17 [SPEAKER_01]: You're right, but it's a similar profile of the last year to be honest, because last year none of, I can't talk, nothing in his profile suggested that he was gonna scorch baseballs.
39:17 --> 39:20 [SPEAKER_01]: That's just, you know, he doesn't, he's not Tay Oscar Hernandez up there.
39:21 --> 39:23 [SPEAKER_01]: No, he is doing more damage against fastballs this year.
39:24 --> 39:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I know, but if he was dead a hypothetically roll out an exit velocity similar to what he's currently doing right now for two months, then pictures are going to throw him a lot more strikes, whether or not it's a fastball or they're spinning breaking balls in the zone.
39:38 --> 39:47 [SPEAKER_00]: The one thing he's struggling with right now is change up, which it might just be a coincidence or it might be the fact he's gearing up so much for fastballs that he's missing change up.
39:49 --> 39:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that could be.
39:50 --> 39:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Ultimately, we probably just haven't seen enough.
39:52 --> 39:55 [SPEAKER_01]: We're trying to judge a lot off of three weeks of play or three and a half weeks of play.
39:56 --> 39:59 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think, come June, we'll have a better idea.
40:00 --> 40:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I personally take it as a big positive that he's doing a lot more against fastballs.
40:03 --> 40:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it's happening.
40:04 --> 40:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the velocity is not high as barrel rate is not crazy if you want to look at all that stuff under the hood.
40:09 --> 40:15 [SPEAKER_01]: But just the fact that the result-based data for Koliang against fastballs is so much better through three weeks than it was last year.
40:16 --> 40:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's good and I actually think it will make pictures respect them a little bit more.
40:21 --> 40:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we can talk a little bit about the pictures to close out the episode but before then Lyle do you want to read that?
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41:05 --> 41:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Is Brian we better love?
41:08 --> 41:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Man, by the result, it seems like it.
41:11 --> 41:14 [SPEAKER_00]: He is improved across the board inlessness.
41:14 --> 41:18 [SPEAKER_00]: So far this year, average eggs of velocity.
41:18 --> 41:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Expected batting average, expected slugging, quality of contact, hard-hit rate, and expected DRA.
41:25 --> 41:29 [SPEAKER_00]: All the numbers under the hood tell you that Brian Wu's been better this year than he has last year.
41:30 --> 41:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Sub 3 across the board.
41:32 --> 41:39 [SPEAKER_00]: He's and looking pretty good and he's not changed up much of anything in his pitching profile.
41:40 --> 41:45 [SPEAKER_00]: His fastball usage is ticked up a little bit, his slider usage is a little bit down.
41:46 --> 41:50 [SPEAKER_00]: But that can get fixed in like two starts, cause it's only like four percent ish.
41:51 --> 41:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Ressfit looks the about same.
41:53 --> 41:54 [SPEAKER_00]: It just looks like he's better.
41:56 --> 41:58 [SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing cause he hasn't really ever changed anything.
41:58 --> 41:59 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not a tinker.
42:00 --> 42:01 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not like the rest of that rotation.
42:01 --> 42:02 [SPEAKER_01]: We've talked about that.
42:03 --> 42:05 [SPEAKER_01]: But every year he continues to improve on something.
42:06 --> 42:09 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know the Rangers are going in there, no one, I'm crushing a first pitch fast wall.
42:10 --> 42:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Corey Seeker's like, I'm swinging at a fast wall at the top of the zone.
42:15 --> 42:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Brian Wood doesn't care, took him into the seventh inning today to get knocked around.
42:19 --> 42:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Although Goldie and Healy were talking about this on the broadcast, even if the Ranger is know what's coming, because you know what's coming against Brian Wu, the scouting reports out on him, people have talked about it.
42:30 --> 42:48 [SPEAKER_01]: The Rangers don't hit fastballs up in the zone well, so when you hear that and you hear Goldie and Healy talking about it, you say to yourself, oh, well then this is a tailor-made matchup for Brian Wu, because he is going to put fastballs up in the zone and force guys to try to go and hit it and they don't, and the Rangers do not hit high fastballs very well.
42:48 --> 42:49 [SPEAKER_00]: That was fun.
42:49 --> 42:50 [SPEAKER_00]: That was really fun to watch today.
42:51 --> 43:01 [SPEAKER_00]: The last note I had was I don't think we've mentioned the Mariners rotation as a collective group yet the season and how well they're doing.
43:01 --> 43:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Some of you might know that some of you might not.
43:04 --> 43:17 [SPEAKER_00]: We entered this season hoping for a bounce back from the Mariners rotation that finished pretty close to middle of the pack and a lot of categories
43:18 --> 43:26 [SPEAKER_00]: you repeat the offense, you bring the rotation back and they perform more like they were in 2024 and you get this world series caliber team.
43:28 --> 43:33 [SPEAKER_00]: The rotation as a whole is holding up the end of the bar and they're right now in the entire league.
43:33 --> 43:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Second in war, they're first in fit.
43:37 --> 43:42 [SPEAKER_00]: They're first in expected era and I think they're top 10 in actual era.
43:43 --> 43:46 [SPEAKER_01]: They're not just top 10, they're entering Sunday, type, or second.
43:47 --> 44:02 [SPEAKER_01]: The only teams ahead of them or the only team ahead of them is the braves funny enough they're tied with the pirates at second place Which maybe people should be looking out at that pirates rotation and they got some young stars obviously Dude, I saw a stat You can see it on fan graphs.
44:02 --> 44:10 [SPEAKER_00]: They fan graphs has like collective staff Fastball percentage or a fastball velocity
44:11 --> 44:16 [SPEAKER_00]: The Pirates is a team, average 97 and a half miles an hour on a fastball.
44:17 --> 44:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that checks out.
44:18 --> 44:24 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the 13 pictures, average 97 and a half miles an hour on a fastball.
44:24 --> 44:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
44:24 --> 44:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's crazy.
44:26 --> 44:28 [SPEAKER_01]: But point being, Marin is a throwing ball great.
44:29 --> 44:31 [SPEAKER_01]: They're back to being the rotation that they've,
44:32 --> 45:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Always been expected to be and always have proven to be with a one-off last year that was Factor it in by a bunch of injuries and a little bit of under performance, but at least through three weeks this year they've been great It's gonna it's gonna be a big part of this team taking a step forward and if we pair that With some improved performance against right-handed pitching and this team continuing to hit or like it's left-handed pitching and this team continued to hit Right-handed pitching
45:00 --> 45:04 [SPEAKER_00]: then you have a lot of the ingredients that you want and then the players just need to play better.
45:04 --> 45:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Then you just need to then the last thing the Mariners are waiting for right now is their stars to show up and then you got everything you want.
45:11 --> 45:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
45:12 --> 45:13 [SPEAKER_00]: There you get still out of the deadline.
45:14 --> 45:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Some of the some of the parts you still think you need.
45:18 --> 45:22 [SPEAKER_00]: But once those stars show up then you feel pretty good.
45:24 --> 45:44 [SPEAKER_01]: It'll be a good test against the A's this week and honestly it'll be a good test for this Mariners pitching because the A's well we know that pitching is not their strength not at all and we're probably going to see that a lot this week but can the Mariners pitching neutralize that A's offense a bit because that A's offense can hit so if the Mariners pitching can do that
45:44 --> 45:53 [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be in good shape this week, but I think it's going to be a very, very good battle of really good offense versus really good pitching staff and see who wins it.
45:53 --> 46:00 [SPEAKER_01]: If the Americans take advantage, they're going to be much back to a, they're going to be very much back to a position that they are more comfortable being in.
46:01 --> 46:07 [SPEAKER_00]: That is the, yeah, first, first place Sacramento, Asal, did, have you seen the standing?
46:08 --> 46:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's a joke across the board.
46:10 --> 46:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the blue jays have been awful.
46:13 --> 46:14 [SPEAKER_01]: The mets have lost 11 and a row.
46:14 --> 46:16 [SPEAKER_01]: The mariners are still way under 500.
46:16 --> 46:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it doesn't make any sense.
46:18 --> 46:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was just thinking in the west.
46:20 --> 46:24 [SPEAKER_00]: The mariners are only a game and a half out of first place right now at 10 and 13.
46:24 --> 46:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
46:27 --> 46:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Put some in perspective.
46:28 --> 46:31 [SPEAKER_00]: So the rangers in A's right now are tied for first at 500.
46:32 --> 46:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Angels are a game under 500.
46:34 --> 46:38 [SPEAKER_00]: The mariners are three games under 500.
46:40 --> 46:40 [SPEAKER_00]: crazy.
46:41 --> 46:42 [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
46:43 --> 46:44 [SPEAKER_01]: It's weird.
46:45 --> 46:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at the offensive numbers here for the start of the year and the Azer 22nd in team OPS.
46:51 --> 46:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, they've, yeah, they've been cold.
46:54 --> 46:56 [SPEAKER_01]: But you know that that's not going to keep up all year.
46:56 --> 46:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this team is built on its offense.
46:58 --> 47:01 [SPEAKER_01]: The way too good to be held down like that all year.
47:01 --> 47:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the ballpark is built for them to hit.
47:04 --> 47:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Just playing in Sacramento in the summer is going to have them hit.
47:07 --> 47:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a Bambox, false travel like crazy.
47:10 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a PCL ballpark.
47:12 --> 47:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Also, come summertime when they get Brent Rucker back.
47:15 --> 47:20 [SPEAKER_01]: That'll probably help a bit too, because for those who might have missed it, he's on the IL right now.
47:20 --> 47:27 [SPEAKER_01]: He's strained his old bleak, so he's gonna be down four to six weeks, which includes you won't be playing in this series, which is too bad, because Brent Rucker's a really fun player.
47:28 --> 47:31 [SPEAKER_01]: But for the Mariners sake, they won't have to taste him this week.
47:31 --> 47:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, there certainly was some guys hitting at Sutter Health Park this weekend.
47:34 --> 47:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you see Murkami?
47:36 --> 47:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, we were sitting there looking at these highlights together of Muta Takamura Kami hitting against the A's.
47:44 --> 47:45 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got some stupid power.
47:46 --> 47:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and he had another home run here on Sunday.
47:48 --> 47:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
47:49 --> 47:50 [SPEAKER_00]: With he hit, I think it was on Saturday.
47:50 --> 47:51 [SPEAKER_00]: He hit.
47:51 --> 47:57 [SPEAKER_00]: He looked flexible, the opposite way, to left center field over the wall, well over 400 feet.
47:57 --> 47:59 [SPEAKER_00]: It looked like the swing was about 50%.
48:02 --> 48:03 [SPEAKER_01]: What a fascinating player.
48:03 --> 48:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I really questioned if he was gonna be able to translate to Major League Baseball, and the book is not closed on that.
48:11 --> 48:12 [SPEAKER_01]: We still have to wait and see.
48:12 --> 48:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I think there's still a lot of data that has to be collected before we know.
48:16 --> 48:20 [SPEAKER_01]: But right now, he's a very fascinating, three true outcome guy.
48:20 --> 48:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's hitting home runs.
48:21 --> 48:25 [SPEAKER_01]: The strikeout rate, not shockingly, is very high, but he is walking.
48:26 --> 48:27 [SPEAKER_00]: I saw this comp.
48:28 --> 48:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I think people might have made it before.
48:30 --> 48:32 [SPEAKER_00]: But is he just Kyle Schwarmer?
48:33 --> 48:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, or is he going to be Joey Gallo and the strikeouts are untenable?
48:38 --> 48:38 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a fair point.
48:39 --> 48:42 [SPEAKER_00]: At least right now, he looks exactly like Kyle Schwarmer.
48:42 --> 48:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, this might be his hot streak instead of his cold streak.
48:46 --> 48:48 [SPEAKER_01]: The league also is probably going to adjust to him here after a bit.
48:50 --> 48:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like your mean Mercedes, hitting 500 in his first month in a white socks uniform five years ago.
48:56 --> 49:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And then, yeah, and he lasted like another year.
49:01 --> 49:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll see.
49:03 --> 49:10 [SPEAKER_01]: But still, I'm not going to let the early season as offensive numbers really throw me off, because I know that's a good offensive team.
49:11 --> 49:12 [SPEAKER_01]: The Americans are going to have to be ready for it this week.
49:13 --> 49:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty satisfied with what I saw from the Mariners this week.
49:16 --> 49:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And it could have been a lot worse for how the weekend started, but the Mariners have put themselves in a pretty solid place offensively to feel a little bit better going to the say, serious, this is pitching staff, by the way.
49:29 --> 49:30 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not great.
49:30 --> 49:37 [SPEAKER_00]: So the Mariners should feel a little bit more comfortable Against the staff or they get face Jeffrey Springs this weekend.
49:37 --> 49:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna say you want to talk about the one guy who's been really good He has been really good early on But so face JT again on Monday correct and then I think is that Jorge Lopez on Tuesday
49:51 --> 49:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Beliefs and Aaron Savali.
49:53 --> 49:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
49:53 --> 49:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't miss him.
49:54 --> 49:55 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
49:55 --> 50:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll take it and well, it's Jacob Lopez by the way, but Jacob Lopez is so far on the air as a six year A. Oh, well, there you go.
50:04 --> 50:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Take advantage, man.
50:05 --> 50:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Go take advantage.
50:06 --> 50:09 [SPEAKER_01]: But yes, very good weekend much needed weekend.
50:10 --> 50:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's hope this is what gets the ball rolling for him.
50:12 --> 50:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, that just about wraps up this edition of the Marine Lair podcast.
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