Lyle and TJ open the show reflecting on their thoughts from Monday's game seven after a few days of processing (2:30). They then discuss what they saw from the end-of-season press conferences (12:00). The two of them then open up the mailbag and answer listener questions about the game seven decisions, playoff roster decisions, offseason hypotheticals, and more (17:36).
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00:00 --> 00:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to episode number 316 of the Marine Lair podcast.
00:03 --> 00:06 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a mail-back episode, so we'll open it up and answer your guys' best.
00:07 --> 00:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Listener questions.
00:08 --> 00:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Loud and I've also had a few days to process the results of the ALCS, and we'll tell you how we feel.
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01:01 --> 01:10 [SPEAKER_02]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just baseball podcast network recording here on Thursday evening October 23rd.
01:10 --> 01:14 [SPEAKER_02]: While how are we feeling few days removed.
01:16 --> 01:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Still not great, still not all the way back to neutral.
01:18 --> 01:19 [SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure.
01:19 --> 01:26 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to take time, but better than Monday night, a little bit.
01:26 --> 01:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can hear it in a voice as I listened last night while I was working out.
01:30 --> 01:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I listened back to our our Monday night podcast, I think we sound a lot better.
01:36 --> 01:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the energy level will probably never be matched again, but we had on that podcast.
01:43 --> 01:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Unless they lose game seven to the world series.
01:46 --> 01:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:46 --> 01:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if they lost that game eight to two, I'm sure we would have been sad, but it probably would have been easier to hop on and say,
01:53 --> 02:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Some things that were a little bit different because I think it would have been easier for us to digest that okay Maybe the blue days were just the better team and they still probably were but to lose like that Oh, yeah, I mean there.
02:06 --> 02:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I like I don't know if I'll ever get over that you know a Billy being said in money ball He said I don't get over these things ever To be honest.
02:14 --> 02:14 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the boat.
02:14 --> 02:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm in it might not drag me down for the rest of my life But I don't know if I'll ever truly get over it
02:22 --> 02:29 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's fair, and I think everybody as the wonderful post you put out on social media, everyone will process this thing differently.
02:29 --> 02:34 [SPEAKER_02]: I am generally a little more upbeat than you are when it comes to these things.
02:35 --> 02:36 [SPEAKER_02]: But I will also not get over this.
02:36 --> 02:39 [SPEAKER_02]: But I guess everyone will have a different way of just displaying it.
02:39 --> 02:51 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you're listening to this and you're not still not sure, is it weird that I still have a smile on my face on Friday when heartbreak, literal heartbreak,
02:52 --> 02:54 [SPEAKER_02]: No, over some people, some people just get over things.
02:55 --> 02:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's still sucks.
02:56 --> 02:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Everything can still objectively suck.
02:59 --> 03:02 [SPEAKER_02]: but you feel better in the moment, which is I think really what matters.
03:03 --> 03:12 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I really tried to put out on social media, which for everybody that responded to that post and responded to our episode on Monday night, because we got so many nice messages throughout the last few days.
03:13 --> 03:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Unbelievable.
03:14 --> 03:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God.
03:14 --> 03:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
03:15 --> 03:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Super cool.
03:16 --> 03:28 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're trying to respond to as many messages of those as we can and we're going to keep trying to do so over the next few days, because genuinely we appreciate it so, so much.
03:28 --> 03:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just think that's an important thing for people to remember.
03:31 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And for anybody that didn't see that social posts we put out, I was basically just telling people that there's no right way to be a fan.
03:38 --> 03:56 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of people, and you saw it online over the last couple of days, and you saw it just in the Mariners' verse over the last couple of days that weren't happy that people were mad, negative, dejected, lashing out, because people were saying, just be positive, just appreciate the season, just appreciate what you have.
03:56 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Not everybody's going to process it that way.
03:58 --> 04:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Every single fan is wired different.
04:00 --> 04:03 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why I was saying genetic variations are real thing.
04:03 --> 04:06 [SPEAKER_00]: You can, if you don't know what that means, you can look up the definition.
04:06 --> 04:07 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just, you know, it's a quick Google search.
04:08 --> 04:10 [SPEAKER_00]: But every single person's just wired differently.
04:11 --> 04:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And for people out there that saw people being positive after the season that we're saying, you know what?
04:16 --> 04:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, it was a tough loss, but I just want to appreciate all the good times we had, and it was such a fun season.
04:20 --> 04:25 [SPEAKER_00]: For people out, they're seeing that stuff and mad about people immediately reacting that way.
04:26 --> 04:28 [SPEAKER_00]: again, like that's how they want to be a fan.
04:29 --> 04:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's a big thing of ours.
04:31 --> 04:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Just don't tell other people how to be a fan.
04:33 --> 04:36 [SPEAKER_00]: We can all disagree on here and have different baseball opinions, which is totally fine.
04:37 --> 04:43 [SPEAKER_00]: But I just would never tell anybody how to process or do not process their own emotions.
04:43 --> 04:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Because
04:44 --> 04:47 [SPEAKER_00]: How you deal with something is going to be a lot different than how somebody else deals with something.
04:47 --> 04:53 [SPEAKER_00]: So again, just because TJ and I were rejected is all hell on Monday night on this show, which was really how we were feeling.
04:53 --> 04:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't mean that's how all you guys have to take it.
04:55 --> 04:56 [SPEAKER_00]: That's just how we were feeling.
04:56 --> 05:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And we owe it to you guys just like we do on every episode to be real with you guys.
05:00 --> 05:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And we hope that some of the trusts that we built with you guys since doing those podcasts, you know that no matter what, even if you disagree, we'll come on here and be real with you.
05:08 --> 05:09 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll keep it straight and we'll tell you how we feel.
05:10 --> 05:11 [SPEAKER_02]: That whole thing.
05:11 --> 05:37 [SPEAKER_02]: There are a couple of things I want to touch on before we get to the mailbag, but first, is there anything now that we've had a few days to think about the game and read about the game and hear other people talk about the game and the series as a whole that you've come to a realization about or something you want to, like, just anything you have to say about that now that you've had some time to really think and it's not just immediate app after math.
05:38 --> 05:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to get into some of it in the mail bag, aren't we?
05:42 --> 05:42 [SPEAKER_02]: We are.
05:42 --> 05:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Is there enough stuff that's not in the mail bag, though?
05:45 --> 05:45 [SPEAKER_02]: There could be.
05:46 --> 05:48 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just curious, have you had anything that wasn't already in there?
05:52 --> 06:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll give our friend Brady Pharkas a shout out who we were on his podcast refused to lose that'll be out on Friday because he brought this up and I think it was a good point.
06:02 --> 06:06 [SPEAKER_00]: We probably won't get into this part of it on the mail bag.
06:07 --> 06:23 [SPEAKER_00]: it was interesting it's first off there was some conversation on had should Brian we've started a third inning given he wasn't built up he had just thrown a couple days prior he was at 30 pitches again if you were to take him out because again we're going to get into some of the other seven thinning stuff later.
06:24 --> 06:30 [SPEAKER_00]: If you were to take him out, would that have been a spot to go to Gabe Spire, who one was warming up and looked hot in the bullpen.
06:30 --> 06:38 [SPEAKER_00]: But two, that inning started with seven, eight, nine, and that was his pocket, because you got out of some barger in that inning, and you got Andre Semena's in that inning.
06:38 --> 06:41 [SPEAKER_00]: So that would have been Gabe Spire going to two lefties.
06:42 --> 06:45 [SPEAKER_00]: And if he doesn't go one, two, three.
06:45 --> 07:12 [SPEAKER_00]: then you could have pivoted again what they should ever could have pivoted to we'll talk about here in the episode because again there was a big story line that came out of this game and that's seven thening that everybody's been talking about we probably weren't in a good enough place to fully process back on Monday and we are now but that's that's a little subplot that our friend Brady brought up and I figured as a good point to just throw out there is could that have been Gabe's fire spot that was two lefties if a bottom of the order and we know he dominates lefties.
07:13 --> 07:16 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'll say mine were two of the decisions in the game.
07:16 --> 07:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I said I was totally fine with which was Bazarto and JP on Monday's Monday night's podcast.
07:22 --> 07:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I said I was okay with it.
07:25 --> 07:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, the decision for Bazarto and then JP sacrifice bond.
07:29 --> 07:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the sacrifice.
07:30 --> 07:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
07:31 --> 07:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Those two things I said on Monday that I was mostly okay with.
07:35 --> 07:56 [SPEAKER_02]: that now I need it's I really need it's a time to think about it and remember the scenario uh... no those are not great but we'll talk a little bit more about those as we go on later but i think that was something i needed the rest of the week to think about and really understand i suppose to do something literally right after it happened and loud and i are each in a state of shock
07:56 --> 08:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but honestly I think the biggest thing I took away from in the last couple of days is what I just mentioned a couple minutes ago just seeing all the reaction to the game and really feeling like it's an important thing to get out there to tell people that everybody's going to be a fan in a different way and to let everybody do so I mean part of it's like we get so many comments and DMs all the time from people who are trying to tell us how to be a fan essentially telling us what we should or shouldn't be saying and it's like well guys.
08:25 --> 08:33 [SPEAKER_00]: we're going to tell you how we feel, we're going to tell you our opinion doesn't mean it's the, it doesn't mean it's gospel, doesn't mean it's how you guys have to feel.
08:33 --> 08:34 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just how we feel.
08:35 --> 08:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody's going to be a little bit different.
08:36 --> 08:40 [SPEAKER_00]: So I just, I don't know, I think that's an important thing.
08:40 --> 08:49 [SPEAKER_00]: It's probably important thing to remember through the offices, and too, that when moves happen or don't happen and we have opinions about acquisitions or non-acquisitions, that again,
08:50 --> 08:53 [SPEAKER_00]: It's how we're gonna feel in its our opinion, but it doesn't mean it's how you guys all have to feel.
08:53 --> 08:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that was the biggest thing I took away.
08:55 --> 08:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Not 100%.
08:56 --> 08:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
08:57 --> 08:59 [SPEAKER_02]: First thing I want to get to before we get to the mail bag.
08:59 --> 09:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Can I just say thank you to everyone who listens or watches us across any of our platforms, whether you're just a real person.
09:08 --> 09:10 [SPEAKER_02]: You like watching the podcast on YouTube.
09:10 --> 09:13 [SPEAKER_02]: You like listening to us wherever you get your podcasts.
09:13 --> 09:17 [SPEAKER_02]: last month was by far the best month we have ever had.
09:18 --> 09:20 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not even particularly close.
09:21 --> 09:23 [SPEAKER_02]: And we can't get there without any of you guys.
09:24 --> 09:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we should have said thank you on Monday but we weren't in a state to do so so I think we're going to do that now.
09:29 --> 09:30 [SPEAKER_02]: You guys are amazing.
09:31 --> 09:38 [SPEAKER_02]: If you're just finding the podcast for the first time over the final month of the season and into the playoffs and you're really excited about the Mariners,
09:38 --> 09:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for finding us.
09:40 --> 09:42 [SPEAKER_02]: It's awesome to have you here.
09:42 --> 09:45 [SPEAKER_02]: We will be full systems go during the off season.
09:45 --> 09:48 [SPEAKER_02]: There will not be a stop in Mariners content at all.
09:48 --> 09:58 [SPEAKER_02]: If you need Mariners content, we'll be right here for you three times a week and just some of the numbers have blown me away over the last month of
09:58 --> 10:12 [SPEAKER_02]: the people supporting us and watching us and realize how big of an impact that right there has on Launai's lies or this over the course of three years transforms from a hobby to career and it does not happen without you guys.
10:12 --> 10:14 [SPEAKER_02]: So I just I just wanted to say thank you.
10:14 --> 10:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you guys are awesome.
10:15 --> 10:27 [SPEAKER_00]: We met so many people obviously throughout the year at the stadium or around town at some of our events, but even at a couple of postseason games where
10:27 --> 10:34 [SPEAKER_00]: through out those two games we were at and took all these pictures and all these great conversations and talked to all this baseball.
10:34 --> 10:41 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a community that's been built that is really cool, which is much more testament to all of you guys than it is to us.
10:41 --> 10:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Like honestly, you know what the biggest takeaway I have is from seeing all the numbers from, not even just the last month, but the first almost three years now of doing this podcast and seeing
10:56 --> 10:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Mariners fans are real and they're out there.
10:59 --> 11:03 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's like the more this community grows, the more the voices get heard.
11:04 --> 11:18 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think like for example, you're seeing people all over the country now on social media seeing Mariners content, whether it's interacting with you guys online or it's interacting with us or it's people seeing opinions all the way out here in the Pacific Northwest.
11:18 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just a really cool realization that Mariners fans are very real and their voices can very much be heard.
11:23 --> 11:28 [SPEAKER_00]: And we're seeing that really kind of come to the forefront, especially over the last couple of months.
11:29 --> 11:35 [SPEAKER_02]: And to all the Blue Jays and Astros fans who found us within the last week, also just want to give a huge thank you.
11:36 --> 11:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you guys.
11:37 --> 11:40 [SPEAKER_00]: There's actually a lot of really nice Blue Jays fans that interact with you.
11:40 --> 11:41 [SPEAKER_02]: There were the Blue Jays fans, were nice.
11:41 --> 11:42 [SPEAKER_02]: The Astros fans were not.
11:43 --> 11:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, welcome to the club.
11:47 --> 11:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
11:48 --> 11:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Last thing I wanted to mention before we get into the smell bag.
11:50 --> 11:59 [SPEAKER_02]: The Mariners had their end of season pressure today, so they had Jerry, Justin Hollander, Dan Wilson all talked to the media at the ballpark today.
12:00 --> 12:08 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was the most genuine media scrum that I've seen from all of them in a long time.
12:08 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Transparent, emotional, and I think the most important part, relatable.
12:14 --> 12:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Jerry DePoto and Justin Hollander were really at some points struggling with getting through sentences because they were emotional talking about the season and what it meant to them.
12:25 --> 12:32 [SPEAKER_02]: And from a fan base whose biggest criticism I think of their front office is that they're too robotic and they don't relate to fans enough.
12:33 --> 12:38 [SPEAKER_02]: prime example post 20 23 54% everyone says that's toned up.
12:39 --> 12:47 [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's not it's not how fans think like you guys don't understand what it's like to be us and to watch this and and server through it.
12:48 --> 12:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I think they opened up a little bit of a window to it that
12:53 --> 13:13 [SPEAKER_02]: it's going to grow on people and they see that is how much you care about this because that like you only do that if you care this much about this group going out there and performing and I do think that's going to go a long way for this fan base to help them out and relate a little bit to the people in charge of this org.
13:14 --> 13:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I've always said Justin Hollander's really good about that stuff.
13:16 --> 13:18 [SPEAKER_00]: And you've seen it a lot over the last calendar year.
13:19 --> 13:28 [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about how he called into Brock and Soak after they clinched the ALS and Hollander wants you to go out of his way, something he did not have to do at all, just to thank all the fans and say how awesome they've been.
13:29 --> 13:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Or even the videos, some of the videos that got taken after the Mariners beat the Tigers and the ALDS, there was this video, Justin Hollander running through the tunnel from the field into the clubhouse and he screaming, he's like,
13:41 --> 13:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go, let's go to Toronto and it's like that's like that's super relatable.
13:46 --> 13:48 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what every fan was doing in that moment.
13:48 --> 13:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I've actually always thought Hollander has been very, very good at that stuff and he's very relatable in that way.
13:54 --> 14:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And you saw it again from him on Thursday here in his media session, which wasn't that surprising because again, I think a fan's a paid attention to him and the way he's interacted that he's a pretty relatable guy, but to see it happen from Jerry.
14:08 --> 14:10 [SPEAKER_00]: that one is a bigger deal.
14:10 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Because when you say that in Oxford centers around mostly.
14:13 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because when you say, I think the criticism is the front office has been too robotic.
14:17 --> 14:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's Jerry DePoto is often too robotic.
14:20 --> 14:22 [SPEAKER_00]: And when you say the 54% thing, that's him.
14:22 --> 14:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but he is the front office.
14:25 --> 14:26 [SPEAKER_00]: He's the face of any represents it, 100%.
14:27 --> 14:28 [SPEAKER_00]: He's the leader.
14:28 --> 14:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I think it's very relatable.
14:32 --> 14:38 [SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully this is a nice turning point.
14:39 --> 14:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Look, has it been frustrating to hear some of the quotes that have come out of the front office at times from Jerry, I should say, yeah, for sure.
14:47 --> 14:49 [SPEAKER_00]: But people can change, it's like the old rocky quote.
14:50 --> 14:53 [SPEAKER_00]: If I can change, you can change, everybody can change, that's rocky for.
14:53 --> 15:02 [SPEAKER_00]: And I know Jerry depot has been an executive for a long time, and he's now been in Seattle a decade, but you're never done growing as a person.
15:02 --> 15:08 [SPEAKER_00]: You learn from things, you pick up on things, you adjust, you alter certain
15:08 --> 15:13 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you alter things about your personality, about your image, just time goes on, that goes for anybody.
15:14 --> 15:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Jerry's doing that.
15:15 --> 15:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe this is a step toward doing that.
15:16 --> 15:23 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think if it is, it would be a very, very welcome sign to a lot of fans who feel like they could relate to him a lot more.
15:24 --> 15:25 [SPEAKER_02]: See, winning cures all low.
15:26 --> 15:27 [SPEAKER_02]: It always does.
15:27 --> 15:29 [SPEAKER_02]: So it is currently solved all of our problems.
15:31 --> 15:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, didn't solve all our problems on Monday night, but close enough.
15:34 --> 15:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Close enough.
15:38 --> 15:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Are we going to get into some of the other comments on the mail lag here?
15:41 --> 15:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so.
15:44 --> 15:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, just more about you maybe we're not.
15:47 --> 15:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we should spend a second on what's expected in terms of
15:52 --> 15:53 [SPEAKER_00]: resources this offseason.
15:54 --> 16:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they said most of what they've always said when it comes to attacking the offseason, they did say they would increase payroll and Jerry said that every offseason, we don't know how much of that that is.
16:07 --> 16:11 [SPEAKER_02]: The quote Josh Nailer's a priority, which of course he is.
16:13 --> 16:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it more has to do with this.
16:15 --> 16:17 [SPEAKER_00]: One of the quotes that came out is
16:18 --> 16:26 [SPEAKER_00]: they said there is the potential for the pair actually they said there's an expectation for the payroll to be as high as it's ever been at the end of this off season.
16:27 --> 16:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And what I say to that is that is awesome to hear.
16:31 --> 16:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I think every fan should be fired up to hear it because you don't want to hear the opposite if you're just talking about things that are being said three days after the end of the season you don't want to hear $15 million again.
16:42 --> 16:47 [SPEAKER_00]: In any way then I think that's
16:49 --> 16:50 [SPEAKER_00]: think most people believe it when they see it.
16:50 --> 16:51 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the background.
16:51 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll believe it when I see it.
16:53 --> 16:55 [SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome to say it's easy to say.
16:57 --> 16:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see if put into action.
16:58 --> 17:03 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'll really believe that they're putting their money where their mouth is.
17:04 --> 17:09 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's a couple of transactions are mailback highlights that could put the payroll all the way up there.
17:09 --> 17:10 [SPEAKER_02]: So why don't we get into it?
17:11 --> 17:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, starting off on the mailback in a reminder too before we get into the questions, the best way, the best way to get in on these mailbags.
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17:36 --> 17:45 [SPEAKER_02]: So if that's something that sounds good to you, alongside Adfree episodes or a chance to get on a monthly video call with Lawnite, which earlier today, we just did ours for the month of October.
17:46 --> 17:46 [SPEAKER_02]: It was a ton of fun.
17:47 --> 17:50 [SPEAKER_02]: That sounds like something you might like.
17:50 --> 17:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Marine Lair pod.
17:52 --> 17:54 [SPEAKER_02]: First question comes from Bryson.
17:54 --> 17:57 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a long one, so I'm going to read the most important part of it.
17:59 --> 18:04 [SPEAKER_02]: What had Bizarro done to show in the seventh inning of ALCS game seven?
18:04 --> 18:17 [SPEAKER_02]: What had Bizarro done to show you that he could not handle that situation or is the argument that Andres Muneus was better and was since it was the highest levered situation that is why he was the better move.
18:20 --> 18:21 [SPEAKER_00]: So this is the big one.
18:21 --> 18:22 [SPEAKER_00]: This is what we didn't get to.
18:22 --> 18:24 [SPEAKER_00]: This is what we need to time to process.
18:24 --> 18:28 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is what we're going to dive into here, which is the seventh inning a game seven.
18:30 --> 18:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to take this one first?
18:31 --> 18:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Because you were more pro-Bazardo when it first happened.
18:35 --> 18:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd still say I'm pretty pro-Bazardo.
18:38 --> 18:44 [SPEAKER_02]: to back up Bryson's point, because Bryson was on our picture on call earlier today and explained himself a little bit.
18:44 --> 18:47 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'll try and recount some of his thoughts of it.
18:48 --> 18:50 [SPEAKER_02]: He was very pro-Bazardo as well.
18:51 --> 18:56 [SPEAKER_02]: There, I don't think, was anything Bazardo had done to show he could not handle this situation.
18:57 --> 19:04 [SPEAKER_02]: And the Mariners had shown that they believed that because he pitched a ton this post-season.
19:04 --> 19:07 [SPEAKER_02]: But that's also kind of where the problem comes with this scenario.
19:08 --> 19:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Bizarre had pitched it on this postseason, and it got, the lineups, both lineups, the tigers and the blue jays hadn't got, had gotten a lot of looks at them.
19:17 --> 19:18 [SPEAKER_02]: But let me answer this question first.
19:19 --> 19:23 [SPEAKER_02]: It is not that Bizarre could not handle a situation like that.
19:24 --> 19:34 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just that Andres Munoz, as Bryson said, is a better reliever, and since the top of the lineup is coming up, your best reliever in the biggest spot of your season should be in the game.
19:35 --> 19:39 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no matter how good the other guy is, I think that's the simplest way to put it.
19:42 --> 19:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was a mistake.
19:44 --> 19:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I would hope that's one Dan Wilson wants to have back, and the Mariners are the whole one to have back.
19:49 --> 19:58 [SPEAKER_00]: because when you look at it, especially three days after and have a more time to process it, you've got to put your best reliever in the game in that situation.
19:58 --> 19:59 [SPEAKER_00]: You're 100% right.
19:59 --> 20:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Edward Bazarna was a godsend for this team this year.
20:02 --> 20:18 [SPEAKER_00]: For a team that really needed an extra reliever at the deadline and didn't get that in Caleb Ferguson or from trying to get it and Joe on to ran, a deal that they thought was done and it just fell through at the end, they needed another reliever to step up and they got it in leverage with Edward Bazarna.
20:19 --> 20:22 [SPEAKER_00]: All that said, it was the wrong move.
20:24 --> 20:25 [SPEAKER_00]: It was the wrong move.
20:26 --> 20:29 [SPEAKER_00]: George Bringer had seen Edward Bazar out too many times in the series.
20:29 --> 20:30 [SPEAKER_00]: He got in too many looks at him.
20:30 --> 20:33 [SPEAKER_00]: He comes into a situation where there's multiple guys on base.
20:34 --> 20:35 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a guy that we know does damage.
20:35 --> 20:39 [SPEAKER_00]: We know it's a guy that's been awesome in the posties and throughout his career.
20:40 --> 20:49 [SPEAKER_00]: And Munoz, not only is Andre's Munoz not faced George Springer in over a year,
20:50 --> 21:00 [SPEAKER_00]: It, I know Munoz had mostly thrown the ninth inning all year, but this is where managing a postseason game has to be different than managing a regular season game.
21:00 --> 21:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Everything, almost everything that you know about managing a game during the regular season has to get thrown out the window during a postseason, and a lot of that was happening.
21:10 --> 21:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Kirby only went for innings, despite him cruising.
21:12 --> 21:14 [SPEAKER_00]: you brought Brian Wu in out of the bullpen.
21:15 --> 21:16 [SPEAKER_00]: You were totally managing it differently.
21:16 --> 21:25 [SPEAKER_00]: And then it's like all of a sudden you went off course and didn't go to the move that made all the sense in the world, which is bringing your best guy to face their top of the order.
21:26 --> 21:28 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the pivotal moment in the game.
21:28 --> 21:30 [SPEAKER_00]: You have to do it and they didn't.
21:30 --> 21:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the the the the biggest oversight of all this is that George Springer had already seen Edward Bizarre twice in this series.
21:38 --> 21:56 [SPEAKER_02]: So we talk about starters going three times through against the lineup, how about a reliever going three times through against a player that doesn't normally happen during the regular season because you only play a three game series and relievers rarely during the regular season throw three times in three days.
21:56 --> 22:04 [SPEAKER_02]: But Edward Bazarto in the postseason pitched all five games of the tiger series and four out of the seven games in the Toronto series.
22:04 --> 22:10 [SPEAKER_02]: So both lineups got a really good look at him and the blue jays lineup was just that much better.
22:11 --> 22:21 [SPEAKER_02]: So when you get that many looks at one guy, especially if he's not the ultimate overpowering swing and miss pitcher, Edward Bazarto lives off of ground balls.
22:21 --> 22:23 [SPEAKER_02]: He can get strikeouts, but
22:23 --> 22:25 [SPEAKER_02]: he was trying to get a ground ball there.
22:25 --> 22:26 [SPEAKER_02]: That's why he threw that pitch.
22:27 --> 22:27 [SPEAKER_02]: It didn't work.
22:28 --> 22:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I think another thing about this is that not only had springer seen Bizarro before, Bizarro did not, in his words, change his strategy at attacking springer at all.
22:39 --> 22:40 [SPEAKER_02]: That was another issue with that.
22:41 --> 22:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Bizarro's quote was, I threw the same pitch the night before and I got a ground ball out of it.
22:46 --> 22:47 [SPEAKER_02]: So I threw it again.
22:47 --> 22:49 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a mistake.
22:50 --> 22:56 [SPEAKER_02]: because George Springer had seen the same exact look from Bazarto the day before.
22:56 --> 23:14 [SPEAKER_02]: And with these guys in these situations where it is so, so intensified and match up dependent that little oversight, the tiny little oversight from Dan Wilson, from Edward Bazarto, from the pitching strategy from Cal, who called that pitch, that's where they missed.
23:16 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_00]: funny to give Bazarto a little bit of credit and I'll shout out Mariner Menis on Twitter who tweeted this out and it got some pretty decent traction.
23:24 --> 23:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Edward Bazarto had the eight highest strand rate in baseball this year.
23:28 --> 23:33 [SPEAKER_00]: So he was good at this stuff and he's often gotten out of jams.
23:34 --> 23:40 [SPEAKER_00]: What this doesn't factor in is your face and George Springer with two guys on second and third.
23:40 --> 23:45 [SPEAKER_02]: But also, strand rate is kind of like babb it, like batting average on balls and play.
23:45 --> 23:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Eventually it will regret.
23:47 --> 23:52 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no season over season consistency of strand rate.
23:52 --> 23:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Like think about strand rate.
23:53 --> 23:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Strain rate is not even your bet, oh, I guess it could be your batters.
23:58 --> 24:03 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's like asking, it's like, oh, are you always gonna leave a game without giving up runs with runners on base?
24:03 --> 24:08 [SPEAKER_02]: No, because they're all big leagueers, and they're gonna put the ball in play, and some of these guys are gonna score.
24:09 --> 24:12 [SPEAKER_02]: So, on four, I don't think that, that is a stat.
24:12 --> 24:17 [SPEAKER_02]: If that's what they were using, should have been a justification for bizarre to be in there.
24:17 --> 24:23 [SPEAKER_02]: The justification would have been, I'm making up hypothetical numbers because I don't have them sitting in front of me.
24:23 --> 24:29 [SPEAKER_02]: George Springer, this year, hit 161 with a four, fifth, the OPS against right-handed thinkers.
24:30 --> 24:31 [SPEAKER_02]: That would be the strategy.
24:31 --> 24:33 [SPEAKER_02]: And that I'd say, okay, then you got beat.
24:34 --> 24:36 [SPEAKER_02]: But I have no idea if that's a right number or not.
24:36 --> 24:37 [SPEAKER_02]: That's just a hype.
24:37 --> 24:39 [SPEAKER_02]: That's something you should be using as a justification.
24:40 --> 24:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
24:40 --> 24:46 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was a pretty consensus opinion that this was the wrong move.
24:46 --> 24:48 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you saw it everywhere.
24:48 --> 24:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Joe Davis and John Smoltz didn't hold back at all.
24:50 --> 24:53 [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, the hell is going on on the broadcast.
24:53 --> 24:54 [SPEAKER_00]: They were talking about it.
24:54 --> 24:55 [SPEAKER_00]: They said, where is Monos?
24:55 --> 24:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Like this is Monos a spot, right?
24:58 --> 24:58 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was.
24:58 --> 25:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you saw it in days after.
25:00 --> 25:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
25:00 --> 25:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Divis just talked about it plenty if you want to go to national voices that's on MLB network and Mark Dorose is talking about it and the Territories talking about it and the John Boy guys are talking about it.
25:11 --> 25:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean it is everywhere it is like again this this is where
25:21 --> 25:46 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a couple of things I want to get into with this decision because we just went through the bits and pieces of the actual decision in the game, but now I want to get to what's a little bit more of a broader view and what I think needs to change going forward because with the national baseball world got a view of in these playoffs in in-game seven is a lot of what we have harped on and had fears of all your long, which is
25:47 --> 25:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Dan Wilson has serious issues managing bullpen decisions throughout a game.
25:54 --> 26:03 [SPEAKER_00]: It is not a strength, it's very clear, it's popped up too many times throughout the season and it popped up on the biggest stage and cost them the biggest game of their.
26:03 --> 26:05 [SPEAKER_00]: year and the maybe the biggest game in the history of the franchise.
26:05 --> 26:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Now let me amend one thing.
26:07 --> 26:09 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of reasons they lost this game.
26:09 --> 26:10 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not the whole reason.
26:10 --> 26:11 [SPEAKER_00]: It didn't score enough.
26:11 --> 26:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Brian Wu's got to get the eight and nine hitters or the the bottom third of the lineup.
26:17 --> 26:20 [SPEAKER_00]: George Kirby shouldn't walk the lead off hitter in the first inning and give up a run.
26:20 --> 26:24 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of reasons they lost game seven and the series and the series.
26:25 --> 26:26 [SPEAKER_00]: But.
26:27 --> 26:38 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a difference for me in players not executing because you're playing a really good team and sometimes that stuff just happens rather than an unsound process.
26:39 --> 26:41 [SPEAKER_00]: And that wasn't a sound process.
26:41 --> 26:42 [SPEAKER_00]: We've seen it a lot throughout the year.
26:42 --> 26:47 [SPEAKER_00]: What happened in game one of the ALDS with Carrie Carpenter and George Kirby was an unsound process.
26:48 --> 26:50 [SPEAKER_00]: And that just can't continue to happen.
26:50 --> 26:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, it's come up, like we've seen it too many times happened throughout the year.
26:56 --> 27:01 [SPEAKER_00]: and the national baseball world got to see it with their own eyes on the biggest stage in this scenario.
27:02 --> 27:05 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just been a deficiency all season of his.
27:06 --> 27:07 [SPEAKER_00]: So your solution is.
27:09 --> 27:11 [SPEAKER_00]: So I've heard this floated out there a little bit.
27:12 --> 27:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I think this has to be a consideration for the Mariners going into 2026.
27:16 --> 27:17 [SPEAKER_00]: If it were me,
27:18 --> 27:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I would have, if it were me and there is space on the coaching staff, I would hire somebody for the 20, 26 season that is essentially a fourth down decision maker in the NFL, but for baseball with bullpen decisions.
27:31 --> 27:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody that specialty is an in-game strategist to help Dan Wilson manage these bullpen decisions and somebody that knows the matchups and knows the numbers right at the back of their hand and can be right in his ear.
27:43 --> 27:46 [SPEAKER_00]: feeding him, hey, this is what it says to do here.
27:46 --> 27:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Do we want to think about doing this?
27:48 --> 27:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Do we want to go to this guy?
27:49 --> 27:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Do we want to not pitch this guy in this situation?
27:52 --> 27:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the Mariners need somebody like that in the dugout with Dan Wilson throughout the year in 2026.
27:58 --> 28:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Because there are things that Dan Wilson did well as a manager.
28:02 --> 28:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Players clearly like playing for him.
28:03 --> 28:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Clearly he's given a voice to his players and let some of his players really lead and it was an environment that was good.
28:10 --> 28:18 [SPEAKER_00]: but the in-game stuff, it's just happened too many times throughout 2025 and it can't continue into 26 and so on.
28:18 --> 28:24 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just too many times with an unsound process that either cost them games or could have cost them games.
28:24 --> 28:33 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think next year, they need to look into finding a coach that specialty is helping inside the dugout with these decisions.
28:33 --> 28:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And then Dan doesn't have to focus on this stuff as much.
28:35 --> 28:37 [SPEAKER_00]: He can do what he does best.
28:37 --> 28:41 [SPEAKER_00]: But what the endgame decisions, you can have somebody that focuses on that.
28:42 --> 28:43 [SPEAKER_02]: No notes.
28:44 --> 28:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm 100% with you.
28:46 --> 28:48 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll find this out as we go along through the season.
28:48 --> 28:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious how many teams have someone like that?
28:52 --> 28:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Because I would want that to be a defined role so the message doesn't go in one year out the other.
28:57 --> 28:59 [SPEAKER_02]: For example,
28:59 --> 29:10 [SPEAKER_02]: If many act to all of a sudden started giving bullpen advice, and I don't know the level of advice that is given up and down the chain of command throughout the night in the dugout.
29:10 --> 29:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's say a hypothetical.
29:11 --> 29:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's hypothetically say that many actas starts chiming in on decisions for bullpen management.
29:19 --> 29:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't it land differently if the guy's not like, that's not his title, he's just doing it.
29:26 --> 29:37 [SPEAKER_02]: However, if the org goes to the coaching staff and says, guys, here's the person whose job is to help us manage in-game as a quality control coordinator.
29:38 --> 29:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it'll help if it's a little bit more of a defined role as it opposed to someone just stepping up on the staff and doing it.
29:45 --> 29:46 [SPEAKER_02]: That makes sense.
29:47 --> 29:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think in a defined role, that would be a much easier pill to swallow and it would be accepted a lot easier, which is why they should go out and find somebody like that.
29:55 --> 30:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Because, and to your point about how many teams have a coach like that on the staff, not every teams in the same situation with the Mariners and the manager they have, what I'm about to say here is objective fact.
30:09 --> 30:12 [SPEAKER_00]: The Seattle Mariners, when they hired here, let me just say it like this.
30:13 --> 30:22 [SPEAKER_00]: The Seattle Mariners hired a rookie manager, made him the permanent manager, did not hire or interview any other candidates, and that was the whole process.
30:22 --> 30:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Do I have that right?
30:23 --> 30:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Did I miss anything there?
30:25 --> 30:26 [SPEAKER_00]: You did not know.
30:26 --> 30:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Those were objective facts, right?
30:28 --> 30:34 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners did not do a hiring process, hired somebody who had never managed and made him the permanent manager immediately.
30:35 --> 30:43 [SPEAKER_00]: With that, despite all the good that may have came from it and how much players like playing for Dan Wilson, this is some of what you sacrifice.
30:44 --> 30:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Things like this popped up too many times and in the playoffs, cost them games and in the regular season, either cost them games or came close to costing them games.
30:53 --> 30:55 [SPEAKER_00]: So with that,
30:55 --> 30:58 [SPEAKER_00]: There needs to be some yin and yang.
30:58 --> 31:09 [SPEAKER_00]: It's fine if you want that guy as your manager because he does a lot of things well, but you have to make up for some of the in-game deficiencies, otherwise it's going to keep coming up throughout time.
31:10 --> 31:12 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think hiring somebody like that would really help.
31:14 --> 31:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Last thing for me, but we got to move on, get to the other mailback question.
31:18 --> 31:25 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not, I'm sure there are people in the Mariners organization who also are not
31:26 --> 31:30 [SPEAKER_02]: like who don't like the decisions made.
31:30 --> 31:36 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like we cannot be the only people who sit here and take this and I'm not saying this from someone who knows anything.
31:36 --> 31:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm merely I'm this is a 100% speculation coming out of my mouth.
31:41 --> 31:48 [SPEAKER_02]: It just, if Lyon I are sitting here and saying it, there is no way, no way for the only ones.
31:49 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just us on the outside saying it, because it doesn't make sense.
31:52 --> 31:54 [SPEAKER_02]: We all have these numbers available to us.
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32:41 --> 32:47 [SPEAKER_00]: But now we're going to try to rip through a lot more of these because a lot of you guys said in good questions and we're going to go through these a little bit faster.
32:47 --> 32:50 [SPEAKER_00]: But that one deserves some due time so we want to spend some time on it.
32:51 --> 33:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Question comes from Noah on Patreon, and his question is, is it crazy to think that Noah, he says, I would rather re-sign Jino over Polanco, because I think Jino's season would be a little bit more repeatable than Jorge Polanco's.
33:08 --> 33:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.
33:09 --> 33:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Jino's a little older.
33:11 --> 33:14 [SPEAKER_00]: his defense has really gone the wrong way.
33:14 --> 33:19 [SPEAKER_00]: And Gino strikes out a hell of a lot more than Jorge Polanco does.
33:19 --> 33:27 [SPEAKER_00]: One of the most marveling things about what Jorge Polanco did with his season is how he cut his strikeout rate from 24 to 25, nearly in half.
33:27 --> 33:28 [SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't punching out at all.
33:29 --> 33:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Gino, not only has he always been a player that's gonna strike out, but you're seeing it happen
33:35 --> 33:37 [SPEAKER_00]: as he continues to age.
33:38 --> 33:40 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's not something that likely just goes away at the age he's at.
33:41 --> 33:48 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think Polanco has the chance to have a more repeatable season and his less boomer bust is a hitter than Juno is.
33:49 --> 33:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Boomer bust is the right word.
33:50 --> 33:51 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I was going to use.
33:51 --> 33:54 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just the floor is a lot higher with Polanco.
33:54 --> 33:55 [SPEAKER_02]: They're both over the age of 30.
33:55 --> 33:58 [SPEAKER_02]: They both could regress if you're going to give
33:58 --> 34:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's say they'll both get a three year deal this off season odds are both will probably regress a little bit athletically and and at the plate as well over the course of that contract.
34:10 --> 34:19 [SPEAKER_02]: does feel like Polanco brings a little bit more floor because of the contact rate while still being able to hit for power, hit for doubles, and switch hits.
34:20 --> 34:26 [SPEAKER_02]: As opposed to Gino, where a lot of this year was home runner bust, especially once he got to Seattle.
34:26 --> 34:34 [SPEAKER_02]: When he got to Seattle, it was pretty much home runner nothing with average at best defense at third base.
34:34 --> 34:39 [SPEAKER_02]: He had an OPS, a team-old will park this year,
34:39 --> 34:40 [SPEAKER_02]: was not great.
34:40 --> 34:48 [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of Geno's damage this year was at Chase Field and maybe he decides to go back to the Diamondbacks this off season and pre-agency.
34:49 --> 34:50 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the money would be better spent.
34:51 --> 34:57 [SPEAKER_02]: If you were to give, if you were going to choose either or for a three-year deal, I think the money would be better spent with Polongo.
34:59 --> 34:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's right.
35:00 --> 35:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Although,
35:01 --> 35:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Man there's there's so many things we can get into throughout this off season and I'm sure we'll talk about it in further length later But I did think about this one over the last couple days, and I haven't even brought it up to you yet You know who would be a really fun option Kyle Schwarber
35:18 --> 35:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you said Kyle for a second.
35:20 --> 35:21 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, Tucker, duh.
35:21 --> 35:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, duh, but if you want another option, I'll spend 20 seconds on this and then we're going to move on.
35:26 --> 35:28 [SPEAKER_00]: We get to spend a whole episode on this some other time in the offseason.
35:29 --> 35:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Are the Mariners going to pay crazy money to a DH, who's about to finish second in MVP voting?
35:34 --> 35:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
35:34 --> 35:42 [SPEAKER_00]: The man you talk about a middle of a lineup and you want to stamp a DH for the next four years and almost try to find your next Nelson Cruz.
35:43 --> 35:45 [SPEAKER_00]: You're talking about 50 homers.
35:45 --> 35:49 [SPEAKER_02]: And you're doing this without resigning Polanco or resigning genome.
35:49 --> 35:50 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the idea.
35:50 --> 35:54 [SPEAKER_00]: And you have to pick somebody to be the DH and instead of Polanco, what if you went and got Chorver?
35:55 --> 35:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Sealing is certainly higher.
35:57 --> 36:04 [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe there is a little boomer bus of Chorver, but the boom is, it's like AJ and Big Justice Lyle.
36:04 --> 36:06 [SPEAKER_00]: It's boom.
36:07 --> 36:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, again, he'll strike out a bunch, but I don't care.
36:10 --> 36:13 [SPEAKER_00]: And most, if you're a modern baseball fan,
36:13 --> 36:14 [SPEAKER_00]: You won't carry either.
36:14 --> 36:25 [SPEAKER_00]: You might drive some of the old school people crazy because they'll probably only hit about 220 but he's gonna, OPS plus and WRC plus and the 130s to 140s and he's gonna hit 50 homers out of the teach fund.
36:25 --> 36:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and by the way, you know I don't care about his batting average because he walks a ton.
36:30 --> 36:33 [SPEAKER_02]: That's- We know has not, and Gino did not walk a whole lot.
36:33 --> 36:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that would be such a fun middle of the order.
36:36 --> 36:40 [SPEAKER_00]: If you had Cal, Julio, Schworber,
36:41 --> 36:42 [SPEAKER_00]: nailer or nailer.
36:43 --> 36:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
36:44 --> 36:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway.
36:44 --> 36:46 [SPEAKER_02]: That would be fun.
36:46 --> 36:54 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think in and your question know if we would prefer Polanco or Gino, which is the summary of that, I would prefer Polanco if you were to pick one of those two.
36:55 --> 36:56 [SPEAKER_02]: A great thing.
36:57 --> 36:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to throw that in there for 30 seconds.
36:59 --> 37:00 [SPEAKER_02]: But yes, of the two Polanco.
37:01 --> 37:03 [SPEAKER_02]: And sure, you might miss some of the good vibes in the clubhouse.
37:03 --> 37:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the first time they let Gino walk out of there, they they missed him a lot.
37:08 --> 37:15 [SPEAKER_02]: But that I think that's something you're gonna have to sacrifice because if you're gonna have someone else to eat, you could not run out genome at third base every day, I don't think.
37:15 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_00]: No, and I think it's more digestible this time to let them walk, because you're not salary dumping, you're not salary dumping them in a trade.
37:21 --> 37:35 [SPEAKER_00]: You'd be choosing to likely allocate your resources elsewhere and seeing the way he played as final two months and saying, okay, somebody might pay him a decent chunk of change and we'll let somebody else do that for as much as we love him.
37:35 --> 37:39 [SPEAKER_00]: It just might not be a fit for a guy who's going to be 34 long-term.
37:40 --> 37:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Graham on Patreon is he wrote down four questions.
37:43 --> 37:46 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to pick one of them.
37:46 --> 37:55 [SPEAKER_02]: The question we'll answer is, do Ryan Bliss in Miles Mastorone have a path onto the roster next year?
37:57 --> 37:59 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a path, but it's going to be a little
38:00 --> 38:00 [SPEAKER_00]: tough.
38:01 --> 38:06 [SPEAKER_00]: For Bliss who's only a second baseman, you've got to compete with Cole Young and you've got to compete with Leo Reevaus.
38:06 --> 38:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Master Boney is a utility guy might have more of a chance, especially if he learns a little more outfield, but still might be a little hard.
38:13 --> 38:21 [SPEAKER_00]: If Leo Reevaus is going to be a positional player, utility guy and if you have a bunch of outfielders, yeah, I don't be a little bit of an uphill battle.
38:22 --> 38:24 [SPEAKER_02]: there's three spots on the bench.
38:24 --> 38:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I think are pretty solidified going in the next year.
38:27 --> 38:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Tell me if I'm wrong.
38:28 --> 38:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Harry's the backup catcher.
38:30 --> 38:33 [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to have as of right now probably an outfielder.
38:33 --> 38:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Even if you sign it outfielder, one of Dom Ken's own or Victor Robless is going to be on the bench.
38:38 --> 38:40 [SPEAKER_02]: And then you'll have Leo Rivaso.
38:40 --> 38:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we'll be your utility player next year.
38:41 --> 38:46 [SPEAKER_02]: You can play second, short, and third if you need them to and switch hits.
38:46 --> 38:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Then you have that last spot.
38:48 --> 38:56 [SPEAKER_02]: I would assume if you were to choose between Ryan Bliss and Miles Master Boney, you'd give it to Master Oak, because he can play more than one position.
38:57 --> 39:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Bliss is pretty much only a second basement at this point.
39:00 --> 39:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, where does Luke Raylee fit into all that?
39:05 --> 39:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
39:06 --> 39:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I won, again, maybe Luke Raylee's somebody that they'll
39:13 --> 39:14 [SPEAKER_00]: book to trade in the offseason.
39:14 --> 39:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
39:15 --> 39:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it doesn't feel a little crowded.
39:16 --> 39:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's with the idea that you could probably still upgrade your outfield in right field.
39:21 --> 39:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't see much of a path for Luke next year.
39:24 --> 39:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, unless he somehow just comes out swinging and takes, takes someone's starting role, which I do not see.
39:30 --> 39:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Like they trade Randy for some some reason.
39:33 --> 39:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Then there's more space, but I don't want them to trade Randy.
39:36 --> 39:39 [SPEAKER_02]: So, and what we will answer that later on the mail bag as well.
39:39 --> 39:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Um,
39:40 --> 39:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I will say generally on Ryan Bliss.
39:43 --> 39:46 [SPEAKER_02]: His path to make the Big League roster is going to be in spring training.
39:46 --> 39:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Because he was what I think the Mariners are going to do.
39:48 --> 39:53 [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to put Leo Revoss, Cole Young, and Ryan Bliss in second base and they're going to say, go, right.
39:53 --> 39:55 [SPEAKER_02]: And someone's going to win the job.
39:55 --> 39:56 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it'll be Cole.
39:57 --> 40:00 [SPEAKER_02]: But things happen in Drees happen.
40:00 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Great spring performance has happened guys show up in great shape guys under perform in the spring anything's really possible I think that's bliss is path for next year.
40:10 --> 40:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's got a win it in spring training and they like this year was just terrible luck for him got hurt First week first week and a half of the season Can't if that happens then that's gonna set whoever is in transfer second base back.
40:24 --> 40:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, great
40:26 --> 40:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Next question comes from Jeanette on Patreon and her question is are we looking at right now for the Mariners if you're to guess an incremental off season or a big moves big money off season I mean they said what they said about the expect payroll to be as high as it's ever been but again
40:50 --> 40:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Action speak a hell of a lot louder than words, so we're going to need to see them live up to that and really put their money where their mouth is now in terms of what they could do
41:00 --> 41:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you call resigning Josh Nailer a big move because that's an impact move the Mariners.
41:06 --> 41:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the Mariners biggest position player signing in free agency in this regime is still Mitch Garver a two years for twenty four million dollars.
41:14 --> 41:27 [SPEAKER_00]: So if they bring Josh Nailer back on a four year 70 million dollar deal, let's say 75 That will be far in a way the biggest position player free agent signing they've ever made so that would be a big move.
41:28 --> 41:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I think there's going to be a mix of both
41:31 --> 41:36 [SPEAKER_02]: I think even just bringing back Josh Nailer Jorge Polanco and signing a bullpen arm is big money, big moves.
41:37 --> 41:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
41:38 --> 41:39 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what you need, right?
41:39 --> 41:45 [SPEAKER_02]: You need a DH, you need a first baseman, you need a bullpen arm, and maybe you need an outfielder.
41:45 --> 41:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Like that we know.
41:46 --> 41:48 [SPEAKER_02]: And then you need your rotation to be healthy.
41:48 --> 41:51 [SPEAKER_02]: And then you would think you're in a pretty good position for next year.
41:52 --> 41:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's big money, big moves.
41:54 --> 41:56 [SPEAKER_00]: What do we think Polo's market's gonna be?
41:58 --> 41:59 [SPEAKER_02]: A three year deal.
41:59 --> 42:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Is somebody going to give him three years?
42:01 --> 42:01 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was going to ask you.
42:01 --> 42:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Or maybe two plus one, so an option.
42:07 --> 42:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's going to be really interesting.
42:08 --> 42:09 [SPEAKER_00]: What happens with him?
42:10 --> 42:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Love polo.
42:11 --> 42:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Not only do I love what he brings to the table, but love him as a dude.
42:13 --> 42:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, I just wonder what teams will think and how they'll look at him.
42:18 --> 42:27 [SPEAKER_00]: As a guy who's mostly a DH at this point, we know he's battled some injuries with his knee and he had to think with his side this year and he's not old by any means.
42:27 --> 42:37 [SPEAKER_00]: He was 32 this season, but he doesn't move as well as he used to and if he's mostly going to be a DH at this point, what does that say for his market?
42:37 --> 42:38 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have to find out.
42:39 --> 42:40 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a fair point.
42:40 --> 42:44 [SPEAKER_02]: The answer to this question is up to what people qualify as a big move.
42:45 --> 42:50 [SPEAKER_02]: The only thing that's a big move is signing Kyle Tucker or signing Kyle Swerber, then it's going to be an incremental offseason.
42:50 --> 42:51 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm sorry.
42:51 --> 42:51 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it ain't.
42:53 --> 42:54 [SPEAKER_00]: No, the fuck it ain't.
42:55 --> 42:56 [SPEAKER_02]: No, it ain't big money moves.
42:57 --> 42:59 [SPEAKER_02]: You, there is a Kyle Tucker question in here, by the way, Lyle.
42:59 --> 43:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, good.
43:00 --> 43:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought you were about to say some absolute blasphemy like Kyle Tucker's not going to be a mariner, which he obviously is.
43:06 --> 43:08 [SPEAKER_02]: So, in fact,
43:08 --> 43:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Here we are, Josh wants to know on Patreon.
43:12 --> 43:20 [SPEAKER_02]: If you could only afford to do one, would you rather trade for an extent-terrick scooble or sign Kyle Tucker this off season?
43:21 --> 43:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's a good question.
43:24 --> 43:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I have to say Kyle Tucker, obviously.
43:28 --> 43:40 [SPEAKER_00]: In my choice would be Kyle Tucker, one because it only costs you money, it's not going to cost you an insane prospect hall, and you also don't have to deal with Scott Boris, and the Mariners need offense more than they need pitching.
43:41 --> 43:45 [SPEAKER_00]: So all my love for Kyle Tucker aside, I would still pick Kyle Tucker.
43:46 --> 43:49 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually opposite of you on this.
43:50 --> 43:51 [SPEAKER_02]: You, you have a chance.
43:51 --> 43:57 [SPEAKER_02]: So first of all, I don't think the prospect package you have to give up for one year of terrible is that much.
43:57 --> 43:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm, the great scheme of things?
43:58 --> 43:59 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't think so.
43:59 --> 44:04 [SPEAKER_02]: He's the best in the world for one year with no guarantee of an extension.
44:04 --> 44:06 [SPEAKER_02]: This isn't the NBA sign-in trade.
44:07 --> 44:08 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not.
44:08 --> 44:09 [SPEAKER_00]: You'd have to risk it.
44:10 --> 44:12 [SPEAKER_00]: So here's what I wanted to get into with this.
44:12 --> 44:14 [SPEAKER_00]: And it sparks a good question.
44:15 --> 44:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Do the Mariners need a true ace?
44:18 --> 44:22 [SPEAKER_00]: They have some really, really good pitchers.
44:23 --> 44:32 [SPEAKER_00]: They have some guys that you can call number one's, Logan Gilbert, when he's healthy, number one starter, Brian Wu would he showed this year, number one starter.
44:33 --> 44:38 [SPEAKER_00]: But the true ACEs in the game, like ACEs, there's not that many of them.
44:38 --> 44:40 [SPEAKER_00]: How many true ACEs in the game are there?
44:40 --> 44:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Roughly, let's say 10.
44:42 --> 44:45 [SPEAKER_00]: And at the tip top of that list is TerriXCubal.
44:46 --> 44:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Do they need an ACE?
44:48 --> 44:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, did you watch the Detroit series?
44:51 --> 44:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, yes, yes, they need, they need a nice.
44:55 --> 44:57 [SPEAKER_01]: See how much easier it makes it?
44:57 --> 44:59 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't need it, you barely need to do anything.
44:59 --> 45:03 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a question of pulling him at four innings.
45:06 --> 45:08 [SPEAKER_00]: So can I finish my answer?
45:08 --> 45:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
45:09 --> 45:10 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I want to follow up with a couple of things.
45:10 --> 45:11 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, go.
45:11 --> 45:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
45:11 --> 45:16 [SPEAKER_02]: So number one, I don't need the trade package is going to be that insane if you're to go out there and trade for Terrix school.
45:16 --> 45:18 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's number one that thing that entices me.
45:19 --> 45:24 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, number two, if you acquire Terrix school, I assume you're moving off of Luis Casto as well.
45:24 --> 45:29 [SPEAKER_02]: So the money doesn't hurt if you're extending him quite as much as you thought, right?
45:29 --> 45:34 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's
45:34 --> 45:39 [SPEAKER_02]: to go trade for the best starters in baseball because they have a lot of good ones sir sell themselves.
45:41 --> 45:45 [SPEAKER_02]: But tell me that it doesn't set you up perfectly to go win a world series.
45:45 --> 45:52 [SPEAKER_02]: If you have tarick school, Brian Wu, and then potentially 20, 24 Logan Gilbert back after he gets healthy this off season.
45:52 --> 45:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Tell me who's beating that team.
45:55 --> 45:57 [SPEAKER_02]: That's better than anything the Dodgers are throwing out.
45:57 --> 45:59 [SPEAKER_02]: And their rotation is really good.
46:00 --> 46:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Would you take that over the Dodgers?
46:02 --> 46:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Would you take it over Yamamoto,
46:05 --> 46:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I mean, you're starting five would be scooble Gilbert Wu Kirby Bryce Miller, yep, and the Dodgers five would be Yamamoto show hey Blake's now Tyler glass now and I don't know pick your question.
46:24 --> 46:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, pick your poison for the last guy.
46:26 --> 46:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, pretty easily.
46:29 --> 46:41 [SPEAKER_02]: And when we're talking about tarick school, let me put it simply for you, would you rather have one of the best outfielders in baseball, or the best pitcher in baseball in future Hall of Famer in his prime?
46:43 --> 46:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, future Hall of Famer, if he keeps this up, yeah, because he's about to win two seconds, so young.
46:47 --> 46:49 [SPEAKER_00]: If he has a couple more years like this, he's going to be a Hall of Famer.
46:51 --> 47:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I would ask you, how tough is it going to be for the Mariners to deal with Scott Boris because we've talked about it, planning on this podcast and those of you who've listened to us have heard us say this, that relationship between Scott Boris and the Mariners is no bueno.
47:04 --> 47:07 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners haven't signed a Scott Boris client and God knows how long.
47:07 --> 47:09 [SPEAKER_00]: It's been legitimately 20 plus years.
47:12 --> 47:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
47:12 --> 47:12 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
47:12 --> 47:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's could they get it done?
47:15 --> 47:18 [SPEAKER_02]: If they pay up for
47:19 --> 47:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Let Terri Scoville sign in Seattle.
47:21 --> 47:28 [SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, what better pitch to be a free agent than pitching a season at T-Mobile Park is you're a might be like one seven.
47:29 --> 47:31 [SPEAKER_00]: So here's my next question to this.
47:32 --> 47:34 [SPEAKER_00]: What's the contract gonna be?
47:35 --> 47:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Are we moving away from the eight year type deals for starting pitchers?
47:43 --> 47:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I frankly, while don't care what the contract is.
47:45 --> 47:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to win a world series.
47:47 --> 47:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's not my money.
47:48 --> 47:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I do it in a heartbeat.
47:50 --> 47:52 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm asking how the Mariners themselves will view it.
47:52 --> 47:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, would I pay $400 million for Tarex Google?
47:56 --> 47:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
47:57 --> 48:01 [SPEAKER_00]: But will the Mariners agree to do it?
48:01 --> 48:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Hold this, Tare, is he 29?
48:03 --> 48:06 [SPEAKER_00]: He is about to be in his age 29 season.
48:06 --> 48:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
48:07 --> 48:12 [SPEAKER_02]: So you could get up for the max.
48:12 --> 48:15 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's seven years, because shows are got seven in Washington.
48:17 --> 48:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd give Terrix, Google seven years, for sure.
48:19 --> 48:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty easily.
48:20 --> 48:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Because he might not age like Max Scherzer did, but by the time he's 35, 36, you would think he's still a contributing piece of a rotation.
48:32 --> 48:34 [SPEAKER_00]: It shouldn't be like a Felix thing where he needs to be in a bullpen.
48:34 --> 48:36 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
48:37 --> 48:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm all in on I'm all in on this we might we'll talk about it more if he officially becomes available this off season
48:44 --> 49:01 [SPEAKER_02]: but man, I ask you to think, even if you don't think the Mariners need starting pitching, you watched what school did to a Tigers team that did not have as much talent around him as the Mariners team had, and how close he single-handedly got them to winning that ALDS.
49:01 --> 49:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's like the Mariners lineup.
49:03 --> 49:07 [SPEAKER_02]: One of the five best offenses in baseball at the end of the season could not touch him.
49:09 --> 49:19 [SPEAKER_00]: And along with that, the whole reason I said, I didn't want to play the Tigers and the whole reason a lot of people said they didn't want to play the Tigers was because of one guy.
49:20 --> 49:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I was scared of a whole team because of one guy who you had to face twice because he's the best in the world.
49:26 --> 49:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, if you put him in that rotation along with Julio and Cal and everybody else.
49:32 --> 49:39 [SPEAKER_02]: If the mayor said Terrick Scooble against the blue jays, they would have won that series in six games max.
49:40 --> 49:50 [SPEAKER_00]: The only thing is if you were to trade for Terrikscubal, I would like to see them get the deal done basically right after they trade for them and give them whatever money he wants, but let's go for us, that ain't happening.
49:53 --> 49:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be willing to risk it.
49:55 --> 50:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, like, the question is to pay him, but I mean, I'd risk it just for the one season.
50:05 --> 50:10 [SPEAKER_00]: We could spend so long on this, we might do it again in the offseason very quickly and then we'll move on to more mail by questions.
50:10 --> 50:12 [SPEAKER_00]: What are you giving up in a trade package for them?
50:12 --> 50:13 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you think it costs?
50:15 --> 50:17 [SPEAKER_02]: It would probably cost.
50:19 --> 50:20 [SPEAKER_02]: If you had to give up Johnny.
50:23 --> 50:28 [SPEAKER_00]: So you say it's not going to take a high prospect capital, but clearly it is because here's Johnny Farmello you're floating out here.
50:29 --> 50:30 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd love Johnny.
50:30 --> 50:31 [SPEAKER_02]: He's great prospect.
50:32 --> 50:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Great friend of the podcast.
50:34 --> 50:38 [SPEAKER_02]: you're telling me, with Mariners having nine top 100 prospects, you wouldn't trade one.
50:39 --> 50:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, for Terrix school.
50:40 --> 50:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I would.
50:41 --> 50:42 [SPEAKER_02]: But I would.
50:44 --> 50:45 [SPEAKER_02]: And Johnny might be great.
50:45 --> 50:46 [SPEAKER_02]: It might be an all star.
50:47 --> 50:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Make, make the Mariners pay and to throw it and it'd be so happy for him.
50:50 --> 50:52 [SPEAKER_02]: But season a Terrix school.
50:55 --> 51:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Johnny himself might be a tough one for me to give up because I think he's got a chance to Again, you never know with prospects.
51:02 --> 51:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I know, but he's got a chance to be a 30 30 guy and also remember if school's available.
51:07 --> 51:09 [SPEAKER_02]: There's going to be a lot of teams that are going to want him.
51:10 --> 51:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're going to have to open it.
51:12 --> 51:15 [SPEAKER_02]: And as I always say, Mayor is to have more trade ammo than anybody.
51:18 --> 51:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I dare you to beat this trade package.
51:20 --> 51:22 [SPEAKER_00]: That
51:23 --> 51:26 [SPEAKER_00]: We should get into this more in the offseason because it's October 23rd is we're recording this.
51:26 --> 51:30 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have months to float this out there, but yeah, all right.
51:30 --> 51:30 [SPEAKER_00]: We can keep going.
51:31 --> 51:31 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll keep going.
51:31 --> 51:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure we're going to circle back to Terri's Google at some point.
51:35 --> 51:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Patrick on Patreon wants to know how long of while and I know each other, how did we decide to start the podcast and what are our plans next year to make the podcast, the number one sports podcast in the world?
51:48 --> 51:51 [SPEAKER_00]: To make us the number one sports podcast in the world, man, are we going to have to
51:52 --> 51:56 [SPEAKER_00]: cut the cords on part my take and Ryan resell out just get them off the air forever.
51:56 --> 51:57 [SPEAKER_00]: That might be what it takes.
51:58 --> 51:59 [SPEAKER_02]: You might have to dox.
52:00 --> 52:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or the the Mariners.
52:02 --> 52:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Do something that makes them internationally famous.
52:07 --> 52:09 [SPEAKER_02]: What that is, I have no idea.
52:09 --> 52:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Trade for show hey.
52:11 --> 52:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Doubt help.
52:12 --> 52:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me great out.
52:13 --> 52:14 [SPEAKER_02]: That would be a great start to the office.
52:14 --> 52:15 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's screw school.
52:15 --> 52:16 [SPEAKER_02]: If they're going to go get Joe.
52:16 --> 52:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey.
52:17 --> 52:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, so trade for Joe.
52:18 --> 52:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey.
52:18 --> 52:21 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you convert Victor Wembanyama to baseball.
52:21 --> 52:23 [SPEAKER_00]: And he becomes an all star.
52:24 --> 52:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Perfect.
52:26 --> 52:26 [SPEAKER_02]: That works out for me.
52:27 --> 52:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, to answer Patrick, we decided to start marine layer after the 2022 season.
52:34 --> 52:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Health.
52:34 --> 52:37 [SPEAKER_02]: They made the playoffs or baseball, juices are in all time high.
52:38 --> 52:41 [SPEAKER_02]: And we'd always talked about starting this.
52:42 --> 52:52 [SPEAKER_02]: So we're like, this is now of a good as a time is now as good of a time as ever with everyone interested and we were very interested and very invested and we've got to start it.
52:53 --> 52:54 [SPEAKER_02]: And here we are almost three years later.
52:55 --> 53:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we've been die hard fans are whole life, but to actually start podcasting was after 2022 when we really decided to go full steam ahead with it.
53:06 --> 53:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think what factored into that time, too, was not just us finally deciding we wanted to do it and give it a shot, not just the fact the Mariners were really interesting by that point.
53:15 --> 53:23 [SPEAKER_00]: But also we're in a world where short-form content, YouTube, podcasting, it's as big as ever.
53:23 --> 53:35 [SPEAKER_00]: It's almost the, actually not almost, those are the most popular forms of media now at this point, all the new age stuff, all the short-form content, all the YouTube stuff, podcasting.
53:35 --> 53:38 [SPEAKER_00]: So we leaned into that,
53:38 --> 53:53 [SPEAKER_00]: And stayed with the times and adapted with the times to what was popular and have really tried to lean into that resource as a way to share our love of the M's and passion for the end with everybody else and it's been a blast.
53:55 --> 53:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, how we how we met was we met at ASU, our freshman year of college.
53:59 --> 54:04 [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't know each other growing up because Kirkland and Ballard are a little far, to ever cross paths growing up.
54:05 --> 54:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Schools aren't in the same district.
54:06 --> 54:07 [SPEAKER_00]: It's over the bridge.
54:07 --> 54:10 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a ton of chances to have mutual friends when you're in high school.
54:11 --> 54:13 [SPEAKER_00]: But when we got to school, we realized we had all this stuff in common.
54:13 --> 54:17 [SPEAKER_00]: And so, TJ and I have been talking about the Mariners every minute of every day since we met.
54:18 --> 54:22 [SPEAKER_00]: But now we just do an podcast form for about nine years now.
54:23 --> 54:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Chase, I guess a long time.
54:25 --> 54:26 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a long, long time.
54:27 --> 54:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Next question comes from Zander on Patreon and Zander said he wanted to do a fun question.
54:32 --> 54:33 [SPEAKER_02]: So here's the question.
54:34 --> 54:40 [SPEAKER_02]: If you were to build an associate student body cabinet of Mariners, players, and coaches, who would they be?
54:41 --> 54:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Here are his.
54:42 --> 54:44 [SPEAKER_02]: The president is Cal Rally.
54:44 --> 54:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Vice president is Jorge Polanco.
54:46 --> 54:50 [SPEAKER_02]: The treasurer is Josh Nailer, the secretary is Julio.
54:53 --> 54:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
54:55 --> 55:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to go different answers, but is it not going to be a unanimous vote to make Calarale the president?
55:01 --> 55:03 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm also with Calis president, he's mine.
55:03 --> 55:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how you could really pick anybody else.
55:07 --> 55:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Josh Nailer is my VP because I know he's the enforcer.
55:10 --> 55:12 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like that quiet leader.
55:13 --> 55:14 [SPEAKER_02]: People gravitate to Josh Nailer.
55:14 --> 55:17 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm very confident with him as my VP.
55:18 --> 55:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
55:19 --> 55:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Interesting one.
55:22 --> 55:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Michael Bryce Miller for mine.
55:24 --> 55:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Because again, Cal's very stoic and obviously he's very intense and this is not to say Bryce is not intense and Bryce is not a hard worker.
55:32 --> 55:35 [SPEAKER_00]: He absolutely is to the 100th percentile.
55:35 --> 55:46 [SPEAKER_00]: But with Cal Raleigh and you know the stoic vibe that he brings, I'd want to balance that out a little bit with somebody like Bryce Miller who's
55:47 --> 55:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Very funny, and I'll joke around, and he's out there, and he, now the cow doesn't bring light-hearted vibes, but Bryce Miller really brings light-hearted vibes.
55:54 --> 55:56 [SPEAKER_00]: What's a good balance?
55:56 --> 55:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I actually think you're misusing Bryce's talents.
55:58 --> 56:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Bryce needs to be the secretary.
56:01 --> 56:01 [SPEAKER_02]: How come?
56:02 --> 56:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Cause he's a great talker.
56:06 --> 56:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyone who walks to the door?
56:07 --> 56:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Scott, you.
56:08 --> 56:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Call him up.
56:09 --> 56:11 [SPEAKER_02]: He'll talk, he'll talk to you forever.
56:12 --> 56:16 [SPEAKER_00]: There's other guys on the team that can be the secretary
56:17 --> 56:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Brice of stock, my treasure is Randy, because he has a chain.
56:22 --> 56:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's not John Sam.
56:26 --> 56:27 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
56:27 --> 56:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.
56:28 --> 56:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, Chris Larson.
56:30 --> 56:31 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
56:31 --> 56:31 [SPEAKER_00]: No, okay.
56:31 --> 56:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
56:32 --> 56:32 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
56:32 --> 56:34 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll take somebody out.
56:34 --> 56:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I mean, I was going to give them my vote of confidence.
56:37 --> 56:39 [SPEAKER_00]: But now that you say that, I think I'm going to move to somebody else.
56:41 --> 56:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Kidding.
56:42 --> 56:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Who do I want to go with?
56:45 --> 56:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Treasure, I'll go with, you went with Randy, I'll go with.
56:52 --> 57:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, who's good with money, who's good with, I'll say Julio, I got to put Julio somewhere in this cabinet, and Julio's,
57:02 --> 57:03 [SPEAKER_00]: pretty good with fashion too.
57:03 --> 57:06 [SPEAKER_00]: So Randy's got the chain, but Julio's good with that stuff.
57:06 --> 57:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously Julio's got some money to his name.
57:07 --> 57:09 [SPEAKER_00]: So sure, sure, I'll say Julio.
57:09 --> 57:13 [SPEAKER_00]: OK. Secretary, I'm trying to think who else is a good talker.
57:13 --> 57:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Because Bryce is obviously a good one.
57:14 --> 57:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's who you just picked.
57:15 --> 57:19 [SPEAKER_00]: But have a Matt Brash.
57:20 --> 57:21 [SPEAKER_00]: He's super nice.
57:21 --> 57:21 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a good secretary.
57:21 --> 57:22 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a friendly face.
57:23 --> 57:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
57:23 --> 57:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, everyone with love walking and walking in there with Brash there.
57:27 --> 57:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
57:27 --> 57:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I think you'd put a smile on everyone's face.
57:29 --> 57:30 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, that's good choice.
57:30 --> 57:31 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
57:32 --> 57:41 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think that a good list, we try to be different and certainly different than Zander is when he asks the question, but if you guys have a different list for this, drop it in the YouTube comments.
57:42 --> 57:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Who's your president, who's your secretary, who's your treasurer?
57:46 --> 57:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Next question comes from Thomas and Twitter and his question is, do these players make the big leagues in 2026?
57:54 --> 57:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Kate Anderson, Colt Emerson, and Lazaro Montes?
57:58 --> 58:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's try to rip through the final few of these.
58:00 --> 58:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Colt-Amerson, yes.
58:03 --> 58:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Kate Anderson, 50, 50, Bazaar-Mont has, I think, man, it's hard.
58:13 --> 58:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna say, Lads, it's 27.
58:16 --> 58:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Colt, yes, Kate Anderson, I'm gonna lean no, and I'm gonna also lean no for last.
58:24 --> 58:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like there's a situation where last spends the whole season in double night and maybe gets up to AAA by the end of the year.
58:29 --> 58:30 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I was thinking.
58:31 --> 58:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I think LAS is gonna get a full 12 months in double night, obviously you have the off season, but he spent the final couple months of the year in double night I would expect him to be in double night until at least the All Star Break.
58:42 --> 58:52 [SPEAKER_00]: And then if he's really lighting the world on fire and Arkansas and he's cut some of the strikeouts down, then I think you'll see him spend the final couple months of the year into coma.
58:53 --> 59:04 [SPEAKER_00]: And if the Mariners are really pushing for a playoff spot and they feel like he could actually have a spot on the playoff roster, maybe you'd see him toward the tail end of the year, more likely I think 2027 with Laz.
59:04 --> 59:18 [SPEAKER_02]: And also based on all the things we've just in this episode talked about what the mirrors could do at DH, this upcoming season or the B Polanco, or he's swing for Schworber, like where would last even fit, like as a rookie on this roster.
59:18 --> 59:24 [SPEAKER_02]: This is just not, he's not offering a lot of versatility as a rookie to get on this roster.
59:24 --> 59:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if you're going to sign a DH to a real deal, whether it's Polanco, whether you looked at Schworber.
59:29 --> 59:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Lazar is somebody you'd trade in a package for school.
59:32 --> 59:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Great.
59:33 --> 59:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you'd be, again, it might not be for mellow, like, it might not be for mellow, but instead of somebody that's got the higher ceiling, maybe it's Lazars and somebody else in the Mariners Top 10 for school, and you keep Johnny.
59:48 --> 59:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Next question comes from Evan on Twitter, and Evan's question is, why wasn't Gregory Santos added to the ALCS roster?
59:54 --> 59:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Made a bunch of rehab starts into coma for the season ended.
59:59 --> 01:00:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Gregory Santos has an uphill battle to get his way back into the Mariners bullpen.
01:00:04 --> 01:00:06 [SPEAKER_00]: It just didn't look great at the start of the year.
01:00:07 --> 01:00:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't throwing strikes.
01:00:08 --> 01:00:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Hasn't look like the same guy that was dominant in 23 with the white socks.
01:00:12 --> 01:00:19 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think they basically said once he got hurt and took forever to recover that they were gonna let him spend the rest of the year into coma since he has options.
01:00:20 --> 01:00:22 [SPEAKER_00]: And he'll have to fight first spot in 26 also.
01:00:23 --> 01:00:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's just gonna have to throw a lot more strikes and be more efficient.
01:00:26 --> 01:00:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he was fully ramped out, but he only had six outings into coma once he got back from injury.
01:00:31 --> 01:00:36 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is a number you don't want to see while, hitting 35% walk rate.
01:00:38 --> 01:00:41 [SPEAKER_02]: And he still didn't strike a single person out this past year.
01:00:41 --> 01:00:42 [SPEAKER_02]: not at the big league level.
01:00:42 --> 01:00:42 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
01:00:43 --> 01:00:43 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
01:00:43 --> 01:00:48 [SPEAKER_02]: He was not offering enough to justify putting him in the big league bullpen.
01:00:48 --> 01:00:50 [SPEAKER_02]: The idea of Gregory Santos?
01:00:50 --> 01:00:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Great.
01:00:51 --> 01:00:52 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a great idea.
01:00:53 --> 01:00:58 [SPEAKER_02]: This upcoming year I think is his last shot because that's going to be his last minor league option that he's going to have available.
01:00:59 --> 01:01:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise, the mariners are going to have
01:01:01 --> 01:01:06 [SPEAKER_02]: He's either going to have to sign a minor league deal or the Mariners, maybe trade home or or cut him.
01:01:06 --> 01:01:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
01:01:07 --> 01:01:08 [SPEAKER_02]: It's disappointing.
01:01:08 --> 01:01:15 [SPEAKER_02]: It's gotten at this point because he showed that he could be really good, but this was just a lost year and he's got to stay healthy and he's got to throw well.
01:01:15 --> 01:01:22 [SPEAKER_02]: This upcoming year otherwise Gregory Santos will be what never was for the Mariners in that bullpen.
01:01:22 --> 01:01:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Ryan could have really used him unfortunately, but Ryan.
01:01:26 --> 01:01:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Davis always called them the idea that's still what he's been.
01:01:30 --> 01:01:30 [SPEAKER_00]: He's an idea.
01:01:31 --> 01:01:33 [SPEAKER_00]: This dominant back end bullpen arm.
01:01:35 --> 01:01:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Question on Instagram from H. Y. R. E. S. 376.
01:01:40 --> 01:01:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Do the Mariners get to the world series if Brian was available all postseason.
01:01:47 --> 01:01:48 [SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
01:01:49 --> 01:01:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Think about the way Brian Wu was just cooking, especially toward the end of the year, a spitball, especially in that Houston start.
01:01:54 --> 01:01:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Before we got hurt, he was on top of his game.
01:01:58 --> 01:02:05 [SPEAKER_00]: So if there were no injury concerns at all with Brian Wu, you plugged him in as the game one starter for Detroit, you had him start two games in the BlueJay series.
01:02:05 --> 01:02:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Was he gonna throw seven shot out every time he went out?
01:02:09 --> 01:02:18 [SPEAKER_00]: No, but man, the way the Mariners pitching struggled in that BlueJay series where you just needed one more win.
01:02:19 --> 01:02:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're in the world series right now.
01:02:21 --> 01:02:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're pretty, I think they're in the world series.
01:02:24 --> 01:02:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you just need an average start from Brian Wu and that would have immensely helped the production the Mariners got from that starting rotation.
01:02:31 --> 01:02:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, very easy answer.
01:02:32 --> 01:02:37 [SPEAKER_02]: And they might have even been able to save themselves in the Detroit series if it was available then as well.
01:02:37 --> 01:02:38 [SPEAKER_02]: But,
01:02:38 --> 01:02:39 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll never know.
01:02:39 --> 01:02:41 [SPEAKER_02]: We got two bullpin outings instead.
01:02:41 --> 01:02:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah.
01:02:42 --> 01:02:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if Brian would start at that first game, and maybe that carry carpenter thing never happens, and he's just cruising.
01:02:48 --> 01:02:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the Mariners do win that game to nothing.
01:02:50 --> 01:02:52 [SPEAKER_00]: They win the Detroit series in three games.
01:02:52 --> 01:02:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Three nothing because they won game two and game three.
01:02:55 --> 01:03:11 [SPEAKER_02]: next question last question that is on instagram from ggomas z the ggomas 96 the question is thoughts on randy and his performance in Seattle during the regular season and the postseason do you trade them or do you keep him?
01:03:15 --> 01:03:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll start with this just to let people think about it.
01:03:18 --> 01:03:20 [SPEAKER_00]: He's out 18 million dollars in 2026.
01:03:20 --> 01:03:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a decent
01:03:24 --> 01:03:31 [SPEAKER_00]: His postseason was not inspiring, but Randy Arozeran has also far in a way the best left field or the Mariners have had in 20 plus years.
01:03:33 --> 01:03:36 [SPEAKER_00]: So would I keep Randy Arozeran in 2026?
01:03:37 --> 01:03:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:03:40 --> 01:03:45 [SPEAKER_02]: My question to the people who would want to trade him is how are you replacing that production?
01:03:45 --> 01:03:49 [SPEAKER_02]: If there is a path, I would be all ears to hear it.
01:03:50 --> 01:04:06 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't see a way to upgrade left field or even just flat out replace the production without giving a prospect capital or spending more money, which defeats the purpose again of getting rid of Randy Rosarine in the first place, which is to trade him to save money.
01:04:06 --> 01:04:15 [SPEAKER_00]: For example, if the Mariners were legitimately going to sign Kyle Tucker, but they said, okay, in order to get K-tuck, we have to move on from Randy's money.
01:04:17 --> 01:04:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand then, I wouldn't be thrilled about it because I'd rather just see the outfield be Randy and left, Julio and Senator Kyle Tucker and Wright, but if they have to do one or the other, and they just have to move on from Randy's money if they sign Tucker.
01:04:29 --> 01:04:51 [SPEAKER_00]: then I'd understand, but man, if you were gonna trade Randy Rosarena away at the start of the offseason, or somewhere in the middle of the offseason before a lot of impact moves have been made, and especially if it's with the idea of salary dumping, that is such a terrible look to everybody in the clubhouse and the fanbase in terms of what your priorities are about winning.
01:04:52 --> 01:04:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Because again, Randy still had a three and a half win season.
01:04:54 --> 01:04:59 [SPEAKER_00]: He was as good in left
01:05:00 --> 01:05:25 [SPEAKER_02]: like you don't have a better option here if you need an example go look at the the the social post we put out this morning with Aaron Goldsmith or we had him guess the last 10 Mariners opening day left fielders answer there's 10 different ones because they haven't had good ones so it'd be good to have Randy here for multiple years in a row starting in left yeah let me let me rip off a couple for people just before we end this podcast
01:05:26 --> 01:05:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Some of the names, Jared Kelnick, who everybody knows I love, but objectively didn't work out here.
01:05:31 --> 01:05:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Jake Fraley, Jake Bowers.
01:05:34 --> 01:05:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Nori Ioki.
01:05:37 --> 01:05:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Who might, Gerard Dyson?
01:05:38 --> 01:05:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Jose Marmalayos.
01:05:39 --> 01:05:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Marmalo.
01:05:41 --> 01:05:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Demingo, we were missing the best one.
01:05:45 --> 01:05:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Who?
01:05:46 --> 01:05:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Echiro.
01:05:47 --> 01:05:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, in 2018.
01:05:48 --> 01:05:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, then Demingo's San Tana in 2019.
01:05:50 --> 01:05:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, guys.
01:05:53 --> 01:05:58 [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to find a good left fielder, especially if you're the Mariners, clearly, I'd keep Randy.
01:05:59 --> 01:06:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm 100% with you there.
01:06:01 --> 01:06:04 [SPEAKER_02]: I want to keep Randy, yeah, he was cold at the end of the season.
01:06:05 --> 01:06:14 [SPEAKER_02]: I still think the team is significantly better with him on it, and I don't, and the path to getting better at that spot is not wide.
01:06:16 --> 01:06:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Man, good mailbag.
01:06:18 --> 01:06:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I got to tell you, I'm happy to get back on here and start talking to the people again.
01:06:21 --> 01:06:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I did need a couple days to just wallow and try to sit with my sadness and sorrows, but it does feel good to start talking to the people again and start manifesting some of these ideas.
01:06:32 --> 01:06:34 [SPEAKER_02]: And just get some ideas circulating.
01:06:34 --> 01:06:37 [SPEAKER_02]: And we haven't been able to kick around for an hour and forever.
01:06:38 --> 01:06:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, every pie cast has just been post game, post game, playoff, playoff, everything.
01:06:43 --> 01:06:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:06:44 --> 01:06:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so it's good to get back on here and think about more different things than just talking about a game We wish the Mariners were playing.
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