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01:01 --> 01:12 [SPEAKER_01]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast, part of the just baseball podcast network recording here on Thursday evening February 12th, the Mariners are at spring training.
01:12 --> 01:17 [SPEAKER_01]: But there like hasn't really been anything happening.
01:17 --> 01:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Kate Anderson through a bullpen, Ryan Sloan apparently was really impressing another Ryan Ryan Davis down in Pioria today on Thursday.
01:26 --> 01:27 [SPEAKER_00]: What type of intro is that?
01:27 --> 01:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me just say this for you.
01:29 --> 01:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Marine layer podcast recording here on Thursday evening February 12 and baseball is back.
01:36 --> 01:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:37 --> 01:38 [SPEAKER_01]: That is what I should have done.
01:38 --> 01:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Your right baseball is back, Lyle.
01:40 --> 01:41 [SPEAKER_01]: The parade is over.
01:41 --> 01:43 [SPEAKER_01]: And baseball has returned.
01:43 --> 01:45 [SPEAKER_01]: It has taken center stage.
01:45 --> 01:48 [SPEAKER_01]: If it came to our trivia, you would have gotten the same message from us.
01:48 --> 01:56 [SPEAKER_01]: But as soon as all that confetti is swept up, as soon as all the football players are off into the rough season, it's our time now.
01:57 --> 01:58 [SPEAKER_01]: It is our time to shine.
01:59 --> 02:04 [SPEAKER_00]: And let's be very clear, you can use baseball as back, so many different times over the next few weeks.
02:04 --> 02:07 [SPEAKER_00]: You can do it when spring training starts and players report.
02:07 --> 02:09 [SPEAKER_00]: You can do it when spring training games start.
02:09 --> 02:11 [SPEAKER_00]: You can do it when the WVC starts.
02:11 --> 02:13 [SPEAKER_00]: You can do it when opening day starts.
02:13 --> 02:16 [SPEAKER_00]: You can do it the first time Dan Wilson messes up a bullpen decision.
02:17 --> 02:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you can use baseball as back so many different times over the next few weeks.
02:22 --> 02:22 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is just the first time.
02:23 --> 02:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Spinzone, you can do it when the Mariners win the world series.
02:25 --> 02:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Spaceballs back.
02:28 --> 02:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's never happened, though, but it could.
02:35 --> 02:38 [SPEAKER_00]: If the Mariners won the World Series, we'd start the podcast of the baseball's back.
02:39 --> 02:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, baseball is officially back.
02:40 --> 02:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that the Mariners won the World Series, it was never here until it was back.
02:45 --> 02:47 [SPEAKER_01]: It has been absent for 49 years.
02:47 --> 02:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
02:49 --> 02:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Now you're losing me a little bit, but sure, like I appreciate the effort.
02:55 --> 02:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate the effort.
02:56 --> 02:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I'll be on that train alone.
02:57 --> 02:58 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.
02:58 --> 02:58 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.
02:59 --> 03:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe baseball will never be back.
03:00 --> 03:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe baseball will never be complete until the Mariners won a World Series.
03:03 --> 03:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
03:04 --> 03:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say Ryan Sloan was looking like he was pumping rockets today in his bullpen here on Thursday, which look out.
03:12 --> 03:28 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's not peaking too early, but the dude is, first of all, with a prospect that young, the chances that he grew in the offseason are high, very high, so maybe he's a little bigger, maybe he grew an inch or two.
03:28 --> 03:30 [SPEAKER_01]: You hear this all with NBA prospects.
03:31 --> 03:35 [SPEAKER_01]: They get drafted as a teenager and they still have like four inches to grow.
03:35 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Ryan Sloan's going to grow four inches.
03:37 --> 03:39 [SPEAKER_01]: What if he sprouted like another half inch?
03:39 --> 03:43 [SPEAKER_01]: His length, his wing span grew a little bit.
03:44 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's got a little bit more of a lever with his arm.
03:47 --> 03:49 [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe put on 15 pounds of good muscle.
03:51 --> 03:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Which would be crazy, because he was already 6'5", when he got drafted, I think.
03:56 --> 04:01 [SPEAKER_00]: But sure, I mean, who says he won't throw even harder or soon enough?
04:02 --> 04:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
04:03 --> 04:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, let's turn him into Chris Young, but Chris Young, who throws 98.
04:08 --> 04:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Simey right up.
04:10 --> 04:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know if he needs to be six foot 10 like Chris Young.
04:14 --> 04:19 [SPEAKER_00]: How about six eight maybe glass now That'd be pretty cool.
04:20 --> 04:24 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I know why you said six eight Because you didn't want to say the other one.
04:24 --> 04:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, actually it wasn't even thinking about that The first I thought of the first like normal pitcher height that currently pitches today.
04:31 --> 04:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's anyone who's six ten who currently pitches right now is there.
04:34 --> 04:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so
04:35 --> 04:44 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm saying you didn't want to say the I know I know I'm not going to say it now that you reminded me, but the first thing I thought of after that was six eight not
04:44 --> 05:11 [SPEAKER_00]: not the not the other number not this not the one between six eight and six six uh-huh yeah yeah I got it anyway I am very excited for baseball to be back I'm very excited to see all these guys down at spring training I can't wait to get down there in a week and a half which we will be down there again about a week and a half from time of recording or first day out at spring training will be February 23rd will be there all throughout that week so if you're out there
05:11 --> 05:24 [SPEAKER_01]: come find us and I would say that one of many storylines will be looking at it's a lot of these mariners prospects they're gonna get their time to shine with these guys going off to the WBC as we highlighted we talked about that in the non roster episode
05:24 --> 05:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Like the roster we're not going to do I think a roster spring training roster preview because it's just the Mariners normal roster But there are certainly going to be storylines that pop up as it goes along.
05:35 --> 05:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really hoping we get some solid ones for Mondays episode because then we'll have almost a full week of guys that's spring training at that point
05:42 --> 05:44 [SPEAKER_01]: So let's hope so.
05:44 --> 06:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's hope there are good storylines to talk about and not I don't know a Corbin Carroll situation that pops up at a Mariners camp not gone wood right now not gone wood That that's something like that doesn't happen for the mayor so you know how a lot of players of elbow guards or Neepads that protect themselves or like the leg protecters when they're hitting Is there such thing as a hammy bone protector because if there is guys should start wearing them and that's a hammy boots in your hand right?
06:11 --> 06:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
06:12 --> 06:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you got to be able to grip the bat.
06:14 --> 06:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, some of the guys where, some of the guys have like an extendo on their hand, right?
06:21 --> 06:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Or more guys.
06:22 --> 06:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you're right.
06:24 --> 06:40 [SPEAKER_00]: And more guys might want to start using it because in case you haven't seen, so far in the last week, Corbin Carroll, Francisco Lendor, and, oh, there's one other that broke their
06:41 --> 06:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Was it with a Jackson holiday?
06:43 --> 06:43 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
06:44 --> 06:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
06:45 --> 07:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought those two that you mentioned first Lindor and Carol the ones I remember It might just be a losing battle though because your hand needs to grip the bat and and if you get hit in hand The ball is gonna crush your hand in all the millions of bones.
07:01 --> 07:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, between the ball and the bat It is Jackson holiday, by the way.
07:05 --> 07:07 [SPEAKER_00]: He was the other one with the handmade bone injury
07:08 --> 07:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe thicker bat.
07:10 --> 07:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a company needs to come out with thicker batting gloves.
07:13 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
07:14 --> 07:15 [SPEAKER_01]: With more protection on the Hamay bones.
07:15 --> 07:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just not sure how else you protect your hands, because your hands are like the one thing that or I can be isolated like away from your body, rest it up against something that is rock solid.
07:25 --> 07:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
07:25 --> 07:29 [SPEAKER_01]: That it's like, it's like, it's a nightmare scenario.
07:29 --> 07:32 [SPEAKER_01]: You have the most hands, you have the most bones in your hands.
07:32 --> 07:33 [SPEAKER_01]: The most bones you could break.
07:33 --> 07:35 [SPEAKER_01]: And it happens to be resting up against a piece of wood.
07:35 --> 07:36 [SPEAKER_01]: That will,
07:36 --> 07:39 [SPEAKER_01]: get crushed that your hand will get crushed between a ball in the wood.
07:39 --> 07:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like what are you supposed to do?
07:41 --> 07:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And all three of those guys, Corbin Carroll, Francisco, Indoor, Jackson, Holiday are probably going to miss opening day.
07:47 --> 07:50 [SPEAKER_00]: So let's just avoid hand-made bone injuries and spring training.
07:50 --> 07:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Please, please, and thank you.
07:51 --> 07:52 [SPEAKER_00]: That'd be awesome.
07:53 --> 07:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they make a really soft, really soft handle the bat.
07:58 --> 08:05 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're asking me to try to figure out science, it was for all the subjects I was terrible at in school, that was far away my worst.
08:05 --> 08:07 [SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, you're maybe I'll just talk to myself about that.
08:07 --> 08:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I say, you're on your own pal.
08:10 --> 08:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
08:11 --> 08:21 [SPEAKER_01]: So while the rest of us, maybe the comments can figure out some potential suggestions for ways to avoid hammer bone injuries, the mariners have not suffered one yet, which is a positive.
08:21 --> 08:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's hope they make it all the way through spring training without the deadly hammer bone injury.
08:26 --> 08:28 [SPEAKER_01]: That's, I think it's six weeks.
08:28 --> 08:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Six weeks is not really something the Mariners can afford, especially if you really get into portions of the regular six.
08:35 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's keep it that way.
08:37 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's keep it that way.
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09:28 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_01]: First question on the mailbag comes from Josh on Patreon.
09:31 --> 09:38 [SPEAKER_01]: The question is if both Koliang and Colt Emerson Light Peoria on Fire in Spring Training, where do you put Brendan Donovan?
09:41 --> 09:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there's a perfect answer to this because I think the answer is he'd be a little bit positionless, meaning he'd move around on the regular, depending on where his need would be on a certain day.
09:50 --> 09:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Cole Young might not play a ton against lefties, so on those days you'd see Donovan at second base.
09:55 --> 10:02 [SPEAKER_00]: When Cole Damerson would need some rest days, because you're probably not going to want to overexpose him too early, Bren and Donovan would play some third.
10:02 --> 10:06 [SPEAKER_00]: And then otherwise you'd find him at DH or in one of the corner outfield spots.
10:06 --> 10:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Whether you want to give Randy Oros Arena a day at DH or a day off or you want to give some of the right fielders a day off.
10:12 --> 10:22 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're in a scenario where you're going to have cold Emerson and Cole Young playing so well in spring training that they're going to earn their roster spot right away, which would be awesome if they're playing that well.
10:22 --> 10:28 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the value of having Brendan Donovan as he can move around so much that wherever you need him to play he'll go play.
10:30 --> 10:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to say he's going to be a right fielder.
10:32 --> 10:56 [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to take the spot of a Rayleigh or Robless, but Robless would be in there if they really need defense, like let's say if there's a lefty on the mound and they want to get Robless in great, like you have to start him, like, and he's, so in this scenario which Josh was highlighting, collion lights it up in spring training, starting second basement, and they feel confident in playing him every day.
10:56 --> 10:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Colt Emerson just lights the world on fire in Peoria.
11:00 --> 11:01 [SPEAKER_01]: You got to put them on the Big League roster.
11:01 --> 11:03 [SPEAKER_01]: He's your starting third basement.
11:03 --> 11:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So what does that leave you?
11:04 --> 11:13 [SPEAKER_01]: You can't put Donovan you can't start Donovan a second you could but if Cole Young's making the roster you want to play J.B. Crawford's established a short stop you play his every single day.
11:14 --> 11:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Cold Emerson is your top prospect and as much as we like Brendan Donovan, a hot cold Emerson I feel like gets priority over a Brendan Donovan in terms of defensive positioning because Cold's supposed to be a stronger defender.
11:27 --> 11:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Where does that leave you to play Brennan Donovan?
11:30 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_01]: You could stick him at DH against a variety.
11:32 --> 11:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that does you very good at all because his calling card is versatility.
11:38 --> 11:39 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not playing center.
11:40 --> 11:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not playing left.
11:41 --> 11:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he could play left for Randy, but especially if there's a lefty on the mound, you'd want Randy out there and Randy should play every day anyways, one of your best players.
11:50 --> 11:51 [SPEAKER_01]: That leaves one spot.
11:52 --> 11:52 [SPEAKER_01]: It's right field.
11:53 --> 11:55 [SPEAKER_01]: So that means
11:55 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_01]: That means, honestly, while he takes the roster spot of Dom Kinzone, because Dom Kinzone has two options left this season, and his good as Dom was at the end of last season.
12:06 --> 12:11 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're the Mariners and you're weighing what you currently have available to you on your roster.
12:12 --> 12:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Dom canzone has two options left, Luke Raylee has zero options left.
12:16 --> 12:21 [SPEAKER_01]: If you were to take Luke Raylee off of your roster, you'd have to cut him and put him on waivers.
12:22 --> 12:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And he solved enough where I think he would get picked up by somebody else and the Mariners would lose an outfield there.
12:27 --> 12:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think you would take Dom canzone spot in the outfield.
12:30 --> 12:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And Dom, unfortunately, as good as he was in two months, doesn't offer the defense or base running to warrant staying over a Brendan Donovan who they just traded guys for.
12:42 --> 12:48 [SPEAKER_00]: This is why I wondered how they were going to make it work with already four right fielders.
12:48 --> 12:51 [SPEAKER_00]: And if Donovan gets into this position, it's a fifth.
12:52 --> 12:55 [SPEAKER_00]: So, because, again, what if Cam's own?
12:56 --> 12:59 [SPEAKER_00]: picks up where he left off in spring training, what he was doing in the regular season.
13:00 --> 13:01 [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to send him down.
13:01 --> 13:05 [SPEAKER_00]: This is why this is always felt like a headache with the right fielders.
13:05 --> 13:13 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a good headache to have, because in this scenario, it means coal, young and cold, Emerson, are ready to go, but it does provide a little bit of a roster crunch.
13:14 --> 13:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I know there are going to be some people suggesting to this question.
13:17 --> 13:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Why don't you just move JP off of short?
13:19 --> 13:23 [SPEAKER_01]: You put Donovan at third and you put cold Emerson at short.
13:24 --> 13:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, we have highlighted the struggles JPS had on defense for the entire length of this podcast, all the time we've done it.
13:34 --> 13:45 [SPEAKER_01]: But JPE's bat still is two, I think, two solid and fits two well in your lineup to take him out of the lineup and for what people would suggest moving to the bench because you can't cut him because he's making real money.
13:47 --> 13:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, is that making this team better if you have doubt of implying every day, but JPE
13:54 --> 13:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I, I don't think so, man.
13:56 --> 14:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I, I think it would just have to be one of those two left-handed hitting right-fielders that you have, either Dom Canzone or Luke Rayleigh gets bumped back to Tacoma or gets out right into another team.
14:06 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And there's still the world that if this scenario unfolds, the mariners could go trade one of those right-fielders for some bullpen help, trades happen and spring training, could still happen.
14:16 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_00]: So,
14:18 --> 14:22 [SPEAKER_00]: If that were to all play out that way, I'm sure they would have some contingency plan.
14:23 --> 14:26 [SPEAKER_00]: But again, this is the question mark with that many right fielders.
14:27 --> 14:34 [SPEAKER_00]: And to, I know right now the idea being thrown out there is Rayleigh and Robles would put tune and write and can zone and refs not or would put tune at DH.
14:35 --> 14:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Are you really gonna have guys plattuning at DH?
14:39 --> 14:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's a lot.
14:40 --> 14:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Right now, yeah.
14:41 --> 14:45 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's crazy because cow needs DH days and Randy will need some DH days.
14:45 --> 14:47 [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like a lot of work.
14:48 --> 14:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, that's just how the roster is right now.
14:53 --> 14:58 [SPEAKER_00]: So it feels like at some point, one of those guys make it traded for bullpen help.
14:58 --> 15:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Still, maybe you don't have to trade them right now.
15:01 --> 15:04 [SPEAKER_01]: No, this is probably like a March 15th idea.
15:06 --> 15:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, and if Colt Emerson proves that he still needs a little bit more time in the miners, then you don't have to worry about it at the moment.
15:14 --> 15:17 [SPEAKER_01]: The last thing you want is to not have enough big league players.
15:18 --> 15:25 [SPEAKER_01]: At least something we can say is, I'm pretty sure everyone currently slated to make the Mariners roster isn't some former fashion a big league player.
15:26 --> 15:29 [SPEAKER_01]: We're not worrying about guys who are clearly overmatched.
15:30 --> 15:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Tommy Listella, AJ Pollock, who have no business being on an opening day roster.
15:36 --> 15:41 [SPEAKER_01]: So, it's an okay problem to have right now.
15:42 --> 15:43 [SPEAKER_00]: It is funny.
15:43 --> 15:48 [SPEAKER_00]: The only reason Tommy Listella was ever on the raster because Dylan Moore started that year on the I.L.
15:48 --> 15:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Like if he hadn't, didn't hurt, Tommy Listella never makes the raster, but those memes wouldn't crazy.
15:56 --> 15:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, bless you.
15:58 --> 15:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I know.
15:59 --> 16:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Tommy Listella, the ghost of Tommy Listella, got to lie out there.
16:03 --> 16:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I covered, I, I, I'd muted my mic and say yeah.
16:05 --> 16:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
16:06 --> 16:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm just informing the people what happened.
16:08 --> 16:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Ah, I was just saying like it is funny that if Dillon Moore had just been healthy, Tommy was still has never on the roster.
16:13 --> 16:15 [SPEAKER_00]: He was only on the roster because Dillon Moore was hurt.
16:15 --> 16:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, in the few weeks, it took Dillon Moore to get back in 2023.
16:20 --> 16:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Mary's fans were exposed to a Tommy was still of it.
16:22 --> 16:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, ensued a lot of online content.
16:26 --> 16:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And what, um, what was the exact quote you said to me when I sent you that line
16:31 --> 16:45 [SPEAKER_00]: I just thought you were freaking out on opening day coming off a playoff of parents and I was like whatever it'll be it'll be fine for gamer to it was not No, it was not Tommy Tommy Lestellus start opening day dh I'm like loud.
16:45 --> 16:46 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a problem.
16:46 --> 16:47 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not that big a deal
16:48 --> 16:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Think about that.
16:49 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Me, I was, I was the common with TJ getting mad.
16:53 --> 16:54 [SPEAKER_00]: How often does that happen?
16:54 --> 16:56 [SPEAKER_01]: What a, what an absolute rarity.
16:56 --> 16:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's hope that doesn't happen again.
16:57 --> 17:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Though, um, I will say what the current situation on the Mariners roster, I hope it doesn't happen, but there is a chance.
17:05 --> 17:05 [SPEAKER_01]: There is a chance.
17:07 --> 17:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you, if you have a platoon at your DH, that is going to leave you open to the, especially an old platoon.
17:13 --> 17:15 [SPEAKER_01]: It is going to leave you open to that.
17:15 --> 17:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, let's try to avoid it.
17:19 --> 17:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's let's try.
17:21 --> 17:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of relievers, Graham asks on Patreon, how do you guys feel about Zackletel fitting as an innings eater in the bullpen, any other options worth considering?
17:32 --> 17:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was a one-time mariner prospect, but he's drafted by the mariner's.
17:37 --> 17:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, one-time mariner prospect.
17:40 --> 17:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say if you're going to use a long reliever in the bullpen, you're probably just going to have that be Emerson Hancock, rather than bring in somebody like a Zach Latel to fill that exact spot.
17:54 --> 17:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I think, and...
17:55 --> 17:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I think of the Mariners end up getting to a point where they really want a long reliever.
17:59 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_00]: They either have Emerson Hancock do it or they would do what they usually do and just call up guys from AAA to stay on the roster for a few days until they need some innings to be eaten.
18:09 --> 18:12 [SPEAKER_00]: They eat the innings and then go back to the miners.
18:14 --> 18:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's what somebody like Dane Downing does, or it's what somebody like Cooper Chris Wild does.
18:22 --> 18:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they'd sign a guy specifically to just be a long reliever.
18:26 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I would, yeah, I would have zero interest in signing someone just to be a long reliever.
18:31 --> 18:36 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no reason you spend, I think, Graham, actual money on that kind of role.
18:36 --> 18:40 [SPEAKER_01]: If they're going to spend money on relievers, it should be for the best relievers.
18:40 --> 19:01 [SPEAKER_01]: It should not be for guys who are essentially worth the dime it doesn't, because the description of like an innings eater is the game is either is out of hand or your starter stink, which either two scenarios, something else is more more pressing and more wrong than who's throwing the for the most part meaningless innings.
19:01 --> 19:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, we're going to say signs somebody to be like a dynamic, multi-inning reliever.
19:07 --> 19:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I guess, I don't know if that's Zackletel.
19:09 --> 19:18 [SPEAKER_01]: If that's what we're looking for, but if we're just looking for like a mop up guy, like the Mariners could pluck any one of their minor leakers up to fill that roll.
19:19 --> 19:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And they'd be a lot cheaper, and you could just send them back down to the miners when you're done.
19:23 --> 19:27 [SPEAKER_01]: If you signed someone like Zack Latel you would get you would have to guarantee a major leg money.
19:28 --> 19:33 [SPEAKER_01]: And then when he inevitably isn't as good, you'd have to DFA.
19:33 --> 19:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And you just eat that sour.
19:34 --> 19:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you don't want to do?
19:36 --> 19:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Graham's just a Zack Latel fan.
19:37 --> 19:38 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's fine.
19:38 --> 19:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it likes the picture.
19:41 --> 19:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't a Bryson.
19:42 --> 19:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think had a question in here on this episode.
19:45 --> 19:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Bryson, another one of our Patreon subscribers.
19:46 --> 19:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of like niche guys, like Bryson, for example, is a Connor Joe fan, but we haven't
19:53 --> 19:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And Connor Joe, by the way, and Mariners camp.
19:56 --> 19:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say we're going to see Connor Joe.
19:58 --> 19:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
19:59 --> 20:00 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, exactly.
20:01 --> 20:05 [SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to sit here and say, Yeah, I see a path for Connor Joe and the Mariners roster.
20:05 --> 20:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Just kind of.
20:06 --> 20:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
20:06 --> 20:09 [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, you want to Mariners trivia right here?
20:09 --> 20:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Who was that little traded for when he was traded away?
20:14 --> 20:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't this...
20:17 --> 20:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I remember the, I think I might remember this one.
20:21 --> 20:23 [SPEAKER_01]: You straight to the, he was straight to the Yankees.
20:24 --> 20:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Zacletel was this in a justice sheffield trade.
20:29 --> 20:29 [SPEAKER_00]: It was not.
20:30 --> 20:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll give you one more guess.
20:31 --> 20:32 [SPEAKER_00]: While you try to cook up one more guess.
20:32 --> 20:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me say speaking of Mariners trivia.
20:33 --> 20:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much to everybody that came out to Mariners trivia night over Queen Ambeirhol.
20:37 --> 20:39 [SPEAKER_00]: We had a ton of people.
20:39 --> 20:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Not just show up, but like play in the trivia.
20:42 --> 20:42 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a blast man.
20:43 --> 20:45 [SPEAKER_00]: So to all you guys that showed up for it, you're the best.
20:45 --> 20:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you guys.
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21:09 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_00]: It was for James Pazos.
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21:38 --> 21:40 [SPEAKER_00]: You're thing is that Curtis.
21:42 --> 21:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
21:42 --> 21:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Because that Curtis was in that Gene Sagar, a mid-Channigan could tell him our Taitrade.
21:47 --> 21:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Ugh.
21:48 --> 21:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
21:48 --> 21:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what it was.
21:50 --> 21:51 [SPEAKER_01]: That's so niche.
21:52 --> 21:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Pothas could throw hard.
21:53 --> 21:54 [SPEAKER_01]: That you couldn't.
21:55 --> 21:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot about James Pothas until he just brought him up.
21:58 --> 21:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
22:00 --> 22:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, shout out to you, Graham.
22:01 --> 22:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for bringing that up and then shout out to Bryson as well again.
22:04 --> 22:05 [SPEAKER_01]: We saw your DM about Connor Joe.
22:06 --> 22:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't even promise will interview him either because I don't know what Connor Joe looks like, but Maybe if we do, if we do end up talking to him, we'll mention we have a diehard fan of his.
22:16 --> 22:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'll know what Connor Joe looks like.
22:19 --> 22:20 [SPEAKER_00]: That's one of my four days.
22:20 --> 22:22 [SPEAKER_00]: That's one of my strength is recognizing athletes faces.
22:22 --> 22:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll know who, I'll know which one Connor Joe is.
22:26 --> 22:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, I'll pull you to Connor Jo.
22:29 --> 22:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's still got the long hair, right?
22:32 --> 22:33 [SPEAKER_01]: You're asking me?
22:33 --> 22:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever, I think he's still long here.
22:36 --> 22:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Next question comes from Pucci Delgado on Patreon, and the question is, Casey Lawrence Highlight, Casey Lawrence in 2025, highlights the need for a particular type of player on the 40-man roster.
22:48 --> 22:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Who is the mayor of Casey Lawrence in 2026?
22:51 --> 22:58 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to add an extra wrinkle to this, because he says, it could be Casey Lawrence again, but I'm going to say no lie, can't be Casey Lawrence.
22:58 --> 23:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Who would the Casey Lawrence, but not actually Casey Lawrence be for 2025?
23:04 --> 23:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Our listeners are awesome.
23:06 --> 23:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Look at the questions we're getting like if you want to hear about the 26th spot on the roster this is this is like what we do this is straight to generate mode and I love it.
23:14 --> 23:20 [SPEAKER_00]: This is great who is going to be the the yeah the Casey Lawrence of this.
23:20 --> 23:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So let's lift off some descriptors for Casey Lawrence.
23:23 --> 23:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Journeyman.
23:25 --> 23:26 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's been around.
23:27 --> 23:28 [SPEAKER_01]: No options.
23:28 --> 23:29 [SPEAKER_01]: No minor league options.
23:29 --> 23:31 [SPEAKER_01]: So you have to defame every time.
23:31 --> 23:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And with all respect to these guys, probably not good.
23:37 --> 23:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Not good enough to stick on a big league roster permanently.
23:40 --> 23:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Who falls under that description?
23:43 --> 23:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, my answers are going to be boring.
23:48 --> 23:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I see three options for a KC Lawrence this year that's not named
23:55 --> 23:55 [SPEAKER_01]: one.
23:56 --> 23:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:56 --> 23:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Dane Dunning.
23:57 --> 23:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Two.
23:58 --> 23:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Jonathan Diaz.
23:59 --> 23:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Three.
24:00 --> 24:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say Jonathan Diaz is the easiest fit of all these guys.
24:05 --> 24:07 [SPEAKER_00]: That guy screams Casey Lawrence.
24:08 --> 24:15 [SPEAKER_01]: He was the one who came up in 2024 and made the one non-marin non-rotation start, like the only guy not in the rotation to start again.
24:16 --> 24:22 [SPEAKER_00]: He also, here's some sicko mariners trivia, somehow remember, made the first
24:24 --> 24:25 [SPEAKER_01]: That should have been on our trivia.
24:25 --> 24:27 [SPEAKER_01]: That should have been in the gauntlet.
24:27 --> 24:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Who started the Maritor's first spring training game in 2020, why?
24:32 --> 24:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Jonathan Freakin Diaz.
24:34 --> 24:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, his career at this point is basically set up to be Casey Lawrence, where he's going to get DFA a few times.
24:41 --> 24:48 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners like having him in the system as long as he clears, they'll keep taking him back, but he'll make some spot starts and some longer leaf appearances if they need him to.
24:49 --> 24:51 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you're Jonathan Diaz, you say to yourself, you know what?
24:51 --> 24:54 [SPEAKER_00]: That gets me some big league paychecks throughout the year.
24:54 --> 24:55 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm more than happy to do it.
24:56 --> 25:07 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're Casey Lawrence, by the way, and you're 37, 38 years old, still hanging on to try to preserve your baseball career, I'm gonna be honest, I bet you he loved being a mayor in our last year.
25:07 --> 25:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Because he probably sat there and said to himself, you know what?
25:11 --> 25:15 [SPEAKER_00]: The mayor knows maybe some real money in 2025 because he made a handful of big league appearances.
25:16 --> 25:18 [SPEAKER_00]: He had more than a handful of days on the big league roster.
25:18 --> 25:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Those are big league paychecks.
25:20 --> 25:38 [SPEAKER_00]: like he's still making some real money in 2025 is a big leader so if you're Casey Lawrence he I'm sure he'd love to be on the big league roster every day of the year but he's probably more than okay be in DFA by the Mariners five times during the year because he's like you know what they'll just pick me back up and I'll get another chance at some point in the big league later in the year
25:38 --> 25:47 [SPEAKER_01]: these guys know it's a job like it's not personal and the perks of being a one-day employee as you said it comes with a enormous paycheck.
25:47 --> 25:53 [SPEAKER_01]: It comes with I don't have the exact numbers in front of me but you probably make more and one day in the big leagues than you do in a month and triple A.
25:54 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_01]: yeah so yeah you'll take those starts it pays it pays for the entire year it contributes at the air at least tiny tiny smallest portion contributes to your eventual benefits in major league baseball that the players union gets you for and by the way he's on the 40 man roster the entire time oh like no he's not sorry because he gets to see if it he has no options so you can't be on the
26:19 --> 26:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, no, wait, no, you, you can stay on the 40 men roster.
26:22 --> 26:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Good, David, or no, wait, no, no, not rules mixed up right now.
26:27 --> 26:28 [SPEAKER_01]: No, he can't stay on the 40 men roster.
26:29 --> 26:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so, though.
26:30 --> 26:32 [SPEAKER_01]: No, he gets the F8 off and gets put back on every time.
26:32 --> 26:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, in the days, he spends on the 40 men roster.
26:35 --> 26:37 [SPEAKER_01]: He gets some decent benefits.
26:37 --> 26:39 [SPEAKER_01]: He gets like, yeah, the paycheck.
26:39 --> 26:48 [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's on a roll like it's better than just starting triple A. Yeah, these guys know that for sure And you get a knight and a five star hotel and get the picture front of a big league crowd.
26:48 --> 26:49 [SPEAKER_01]: It sounds pretty good to me.
26:49 --> 26:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
26:50 --> 26:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's my answer.
26:52 --> 26:53 [SPEAKER_00]: It would be Jonathan Diaz.
26:53 --> 26:55 [SPEAKER_00]: So let's roll with that.
26:56 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say before we get to our next question, let's take a quick pause.
26:58 --> 27:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Talk to you guys about our friends over.
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27:03 --> 27:04 [SPEAKER_00]: We'd love the spot.
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27:11 --> 27:12 [SPEAKER_00]: There's 20 TVs in the place.
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27:30 --> 27:37 [SPEAKER_01]: It's Pagaches, Pub 85 in Kirkland Thompson on YouTube has a very interesting question
27:37 --> 27:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Thompson asks that he was says he was scrolling across one of I believe our reals and was noticing some toxic comments.
27:46 --> 27:55 [SPEAKER_01]: So he asks, as content creators, how do you block out the noise and all some of the negative comments and responses that we'll get on some of our videos?
27:57 --> 27:59 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what the honest truth is, man?
27:59 --> 28:02 [SPEAKER_00]: It just comes with signing up to do this.
28:03 --> 28:12 [SPEAKER_00]: You know that when you are gonna post things of yourself in your opinions online, there's gonna be people out there that send back things that are really negative.
28:12 --> 28:17 [SPEAKER_00]: But to be honest, you can't let it get to you because I always talk about this with people.
28:17 --> 28:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Because we may ask similar questions by some of our friends who don't do content for a living.
28:21 --> 28:23 [SPEAKER_00]: And they say, you know, does it bother you?
28:23 --> 28:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Does it ever get to you?
28:25 --> 28:26 [SPEAKER_00]: And,
28:26 --> 28:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Like sure, I mean, it like transparently, if we could have zero negative comments ever, great, and not just us, but the whole world, the world would be a nicer place on social media.
28:37 --> 28:48 [SPEAKER_00]: But the truth is, think about you asking this question, if you sit there and ever think to yourself, yeah, I've a lot of times gone out of my way to go hate comment on somebody's posts.
28:48 --> 29:01 [SPEAKER_00]: No, you probably don't do that, and all of our awesome listeners that sit here and listen these episodes, I'm sure don't go and do that because if we say something that you really disagree with or we fire off a take that you guys don't like, which I'm sure happens over the course of a baseball season.
29:01 --> 29:11 [SPEAKER_00]: We fire off a lot of takes and have a lot of opinions, but you probably just either keep it to yourself and say, yeah, I'm not with them on this one or you'll send it to some of your friends and say, yeah,
29:12 --> 29:13 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're wrong on this one.
29:13 --> 29:20 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not going out of your way to send true hate comments because the people that do that, the simplest way to put it is like those people don't have lives.
29:21 --> 29:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Those are literally people that don't have lives and they're trying to get some sort of moral boost by bringing somebody else down by seeing likes on a comment.
29:31 --> 29:37 [SPEAKER_01]: My honest answer, I don't have time to even think about comments like that.
29:39 --> 29:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not trying to like,
29:41 --> 29:55 [SPEAKER_01]: to your own horn, but we get a lot of comments, a lot of comments, and there is not time to sit there and think about comments that are negative and don't add value to any sort of conversation.
29:55 --> 29:56 [SPEAKER_01]: See, have I see it?
29:56 --> 29:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it.
29:57 --> 29:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's it.
29:58 --> 30:22 [SPEAKER_01]: When if used once you see enough of them like and this is just unfortunate once you see enough of them It's just kind of like white noise like you just next because some things things people say like they it's probably already been said in the comments We've probably seen it So it makes it a little easier to scroll past also in like I don't have time like I like I don't even get to read all of the comments all the time
30:22 --> 30:23 [SPEAKER_01]: because we're so busy.
30:24 --> 30:26 [SPEAKER_01]: So like, have the time, I won't even see it.
30:26 --> 30:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And some of these algorithms will just block it out for you with certain words, their certain magic words that YouTube will use to hide comments and Instagram will use to hide comments instantaneously.
30:36 --> 30:38 [SPEAKER_01]: So we honestly don't even have to see some of them.
30:39 --> 31:02 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, it's a combination of volume, it's a combination of once you're just really busy, you just don't go to even really see it, and part of it, you're just used to it, that's all like you just you just grow thick skin because you have to because we're we're sitting here putting ourselves out here to everybody right now, like for some people, the concept, the concept of sitting here in your bedroom.
31:02 --> 31:27 [SPEAKER_01]: and talking loudly is incredibly embarrassing and would never do it right like even at the beginning Lana I probably thought oh my god someone gonna hear us what are they gonna think of us like that's just something you got to get over it's like that's like the smallest part of it so then when it comes to the point of like actually putting yourself out there Like eventually you're just gonna have to get used to that and just like we get used to sitting here and talking
31:27 --> 31:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd say we've gotten pretty immune to it at this point because we also know that it's so much easier and this is just human nature to focus on one negative comment rather than 50 positive ones and the honest truth is like which is so much of the reason why we've loved doing this is we've met so many people who are such awesome mariners fans and we've gotten the pleasure to talk baseball with so many different times and meet out at the ballpark
31:56 --> 31:57 [SPEAKER_00]: that are great.
31:57 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_00]: And we realize, you know, those crazy commenters are not the norm.
32:02 --> 32:10 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just a one-off person who, yeah, probably doesn't have a life and is just looking to get some sort of moral boost.
32:11 --> 32:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, most of these people who say these things or all of them would never say it to your face.
32:16 --> 32:17 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why they say it in the comment.
32:18 --> 32:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you have a
32:20 --> 32:23 [SPEAKER_01]: We're always available, we're always at the ballpark.
32:23 --> 32:24 [SPEAKER_01]: All the time, we keep saying it.
32:24 --> 32:27 [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to say something to us, positive or negative.
32:27 --> 32:29 [SPEAKER_01]: We're at the park, we're reachable by DM.
32:30 --> 32:32 [SPEAKER_01]: You're welcome to come to us with it.
32:33 --> 32:43 [SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna say we argue with our fans all the time and it's a blast not even a bad way We'll just go back and forth about takes we both have and talk things through It's really fun.
32:43 --> 33:02 [SPEAKER_00]: It's part of what's made this whole community extremely fun But yeah in person you would just never have somebody come up to your face and say some of the stuff that they'll say in the comments So you just know that again, it's it's probably somebody that is dealing with some of their own internal issues Internal yeah internally
33:02 --> 33:03 [SPEAKER_00]: somewhere deep down.
33:03 --> 33:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's their way of taking it out.
33:06 --> 33:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Or it's not a real person because bots are infamous these days.
33:09 --> 33:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
33:10 --> 33:14 [SPEAKER_01]: And if it's not a real person, then yeah, there's zero reason away's time on it.
33:15 --> 33:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, computer.
33:15 --> 33:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
33:16 --> 33:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for your contribution to everything.
33:18 --> 33:19 [SPEAKER_01]: But good question.
33:19 --> 33:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate that one.
33:21 --> 33:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Moose knuckles on Twitter has the question with many ground ball pitchers.
33:26 --> 33:31 [SPEAKER_01]: How do the Mariners improve the defense up the middle, especially with
33:33 --> 33:35 [SPEAKER_00]: The answer here I think is just time.
33:36 --> 33:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think JP Crawford's going to wave a magic wand and bring back his 2020 defense.
33:41 --> 33:49 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think with Cole Young, he's going to need some more innings and more reps to improve his defense too.
33:49 --> 33:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I never felt like Cole Young was making errors left in right last year, but he didn't great out that well in terms of range.
33:57 --> 33:59 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think with a little bit of time,
33:59 --> 34:01 [SPEAKER_00]: and more experience and more practice.
34:02 --> 34:03 [SPEAKER_00]: That's how you'll see that improve.
34:03 --> 34:11 [SPEAKER_00]: So, in terms of 2026, yeah, that is something that is a fair concern to have about the Mariners pitching staff for a group of guys that often puts baseballs on the ground.
34:11 --> 34:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you worry about the defense?
34:13 --> 34:20 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you're looking for real long-term improvements, I think it's going to be one's cold Emerson takes over short and call young as a little more time at second.
34:20 --> 34:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, unless you're willing to churn the roster, this is just not something you can just flip.
34:24 --> 34:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Unless the Mariners entered this offseason, it's okay.
34:27 --> 34:29 [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't knew Third Basin who's better on defense.
34:29 --> 34:31 [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't knew Shortstop who's better on defense.
34:31 --> 34:33 [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't knew Second Basin who's better on defense.
34:33 --> 34:38 [SPEAKER_01]: That would require you getting rid of like multiple players and the Mariners weren't going to do that.
34:39 --> 34:46 [SPEAKER_01]: So the only way to get better is to either get outlier seasons from JP or Donovan and Donovan's been a solid defender in his career.
34:47 --> 34:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Far from a gold clover for the most part, JP Crawford as we've highlighted his defensive deficiencies for the last couple of years.
34:54 --> 34:55 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not been great.
34:56 --> 34:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Unless you get
34:57 --> 35:07 [SPEAKER_01]: like a one off great defensive year, which they do happen occasionally, but that's more luck-based rather than strategy-based.
35:07 --> 35:18 [SPEAKER_01]: And then for the young guys, you either wait for Cold Emerson and he's everything that was promised or you wait for Cold Emerson and Cold Young to develop under Perry Hill and just get better on defense.
35:18 --> 35:19 [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
35:19 --> 35:27 [SPEAKER_01]: There are very few players who are good offensive players and also good defense players.
35:28 --> 35:32 [SPEAKER_01]: If you were to get rid of JP Crawfer and say, all right, we need a better defensive short stop.
35:32 --> 35:34 [SPEAKER_01]: You could get a better defensive short stop.
35:34 --> 35:36 [SPEAKER_01]: How much worse would your offense be?
35:38 --> 35:39 [SPEAKER_00]: probably worse.
35:39 --> 35:41 [SPEAKER_00]: There is some sacrifice that you're going to make.
35:41 --> 35:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Right?
35:42 --> 35:48 [SPEAKER_01]: That's just in naming of let's name good defensive shortstop that are also good on offense.
35:48 --> 35:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say if you want a guy that's great offensively and great defensively up the middle on the middle in field, I'll give you a couple examples.
35:57 --> 36:02 [SPEAKER_00]: One of them plays in Queens and is on a contract worth $341 million in Francisco and door.
36:02 --> 36:07 [SPEAKER_00]: For example, there's another one where I'll
36:07 --> 36:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, you can also go to Kansas City on a man that's on a $300 million extension and may get close to 500 million the next time you make the contract in body with you near you could go to Texas because there's years of course he goes way really good defense he got three hundred and twenty five million bucks you could go to Baltimore gunner Henderson not making a lot of money, but he's about to in a couple years so The guy's neto's defense
36:34 --> 36:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's a decent example, but again, if you were going to trade for him, wasn't he in your five, oh, not a good defender?
36:41 --> 36:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Six percentile away.
36:43 --> 36:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, never mind.
36:44 --> 36:45 [SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
36:45 --> 36:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, and he's like young and would never get traded due anyways, because he's on the angels, right?
36:50 --> 36:57 [SPEAKER_01]: So otherwise, I mean, a good defensive shortstop, for example, is like Andre's Hemenis, who would be a good defensive shortstop.
36:58 --> 37:01 [SPEAKER_01]: his OPS plus was sub 70.
37:01 --> 37:03 [SPEAKER_00]: It was 66 last year.
37:03 --> 37:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember that it has drilled into my brain because he had two wrong runs in the ALC S against the Mariners.
37:08 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Now unless he repeats that performance against the Mariners for an entire season as the Mariners every day shortstop, you're gonna have like a 50% drop off in offense at shortstop.
37:22 --> 37:24 [SPEAKER_01]: That is insane, right?
37:24 --> 37:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Your lineup would not recover.
37:26 --> 37:27 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, where else do you want to go?
37:28 --> 37:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Jeremy Payneon, he's probably not going anywhere in Houston.
37:31 --> 37:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Houston's trading him to Seattle.
37:33 --> 37:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Jacob Wilson, he's barely accrued any service time.
37:37 --> 37:40 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's obviously not a powerheader, but he's a very good offensive player.
37:40 --> 37:44 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think as a solid defender, if I'm remembering off the top of my head.
37:44 --> 37:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
37:44 --> 37:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Dan's be swancin, great defender, about an average offensive player.
37:48 --> 37:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Like that would be one, but he's worth, he's got $177 million contract, and he's older.
37:54 --> 37:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you went to the marlins, auto-low pez is their shortstop, but he's far from amazing offensive player.
38:00 --> 38:28 [SPEAKER_01]: right there's no one there are no free any of the free agent options that would make you better on defense would either make your line up worse or cost you three hundred million dollars right that would that would be the strategy did you sorry never mind on on Jacob Wilson's defense who we love is a dude he was awesome we got the doctor last year but man he well he was he was negative ten defense were unsafe last year oh that is that's not very good no it's a tough problem
38:28 --> 38:37 [SPEAKER_01]: The best strategy for improving the Mariners defense this year, two letters, pH, Perry Hill, yeah, that's, that's how you do it.
38:37 --> 38:41 [SPEAKER_00]: But the guys that are good both ways definitively, what do we just come up with as a list?
38:41 --> 38:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Francisco Lendor Gunner Henderson, Bobby White Corey Seager, at least at one point Corey Seager, like in such a small group.
38:48 --> 38:48 [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
38:49 --> 38:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So, and the other up the middle options, the one at second base is Mika Horner.
38:56 --> 38:57 [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
38:57 --> 38:59 [SPEAKER_01]: We already talked about him, and he's not available.
38:59 --> 39:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Third base, people are gonna say Ben Williams in.
39:07 --> 39:07 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
39:07 --> 39:08 [SPEAKER_00]: They're gonna say Ben Williams.
39:09 --> 39:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, we did get told that the Mariners just traded away a future Hall of Famer when Ben Williams was traded.
39:14 --> 39:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Now to be fair, this question does say up the middle.
39:17 --> 39:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Third base is not the middle, so we could focus on second base and short.
39:20 --> 39:29 [SPEAKER_01]: If you have a combination of solid offense, like Cole Young is expected to produce and JP Crawford produces and good defense, I mean, you're going to be, it would be an expensive acquisition.
39:29 --> 39:30 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll say that.
39:30 --> 39:42 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's, that's a long-winded answer of saying that's why they didn't go into the soft season, trying to improve their defense in the middle, because it's just frankly not attainable unless you're willing to hand out that kind of contract and the Mariners aren't.
39:42 --> 39:42 [SPEAKER_01]: They've said they aren't.
39:44 --> 39:55 [SPEAKER_00]: And yes, we don't agree with it, but we would give out those contracts to Francisco and Dorr or Gunner Henderson one day, but that doesn't mean the Mariners themselves well, unfortunately.
39:55 --> 39:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Even though we would.
39:57 --> 40:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Danny on Instagram is wondering, are ideal lineup versus lefties and are ideal lineup versus righties?
40:04 --> 40:09 [SPEAKER_00]: So, the Mariners have basically said that Brendan Donovan is going to be the lead off hit her every day.
40:10 --> 40:14 [SPEAKER_00]: So in that way, it sounds like they're just going to move Randy Arosarina down the line up for the most part this year.
40:15 --> 40:19 [SPEAKER_00]: But against righties, you would think it's going to be Donovan leading off.
40:19 --> 40:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's call it cowhitting second, Julio hitting third, you could flip flop those two, but I'll go with that.
40:26 --> 40:34 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you have Naylor four, you have Randy five, then you would have, I would say, yeah, so you got the first five.
40:35 --> 40:36 [SPEAKER_00]: JP Crawford's gonna hit nine.
40:37 --> 40:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, like he will be penciled into that nine spot because that is his role.
40:41 --> 40:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Six, seven, eight is where you can move things around.
40:43 --> 40:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say you're probably gonna see,
40:47 --> 40:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Canzone.
40:48 --> 40:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was just like, you'll see canzone probably DH hitting sixth followed by Rayleigh in the seventh spot in right field and Cole Young hitting eighth at second base.
40:59 --> 41:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Although that's a lot of lefties in a row.
41:01 --> 41:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that is that is think about it from six back to one.
41:04 --> 41:08 [SPEAKER_00]: That's canzone Rayleigh Cole Young JP Crawford Brendan Donovan.
41:08 --> 41:09 [SPEAKER_00]: That's five straight lefties.
41:10 --> 41:11 [SPEAKER_01]: That's how the roster's built.
41:12 --> 41:21 [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to have to utilize those pitch hitters because they're going to be very susceptible to elite lefty bullpen arms, like a game spark with thankfully a game spark is just a mariner.
41:22 --> 41:23 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the same one I had.
41:23 --> 41:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I had Julio hitting second, but him and Cal flip flopping two and three kind of negligent.
41:27 --> 41:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
41:28 --> 41:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, against lefties, it does get a little easier because you would have done it and lead off.
41:33 --> 41:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's call Cal and Julio hitting two or three, whatever order you want.
41:38 --> 41:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Randy five, then you would probably have JP still get a hit ninth.
41:43 --> 41:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, you can pencil that in.
41:44 --> 41:46 [SPEAKER_00]: It's about those six, seven, eight spots.
41:46 --> 41:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Here you would probably have Rob Refts Knight or hit six.
41:50 --> 41:55 [SPEAKER_00]: You would have Victor Robles hit, I'll put eighth and Cole Young seven.
41:55 --> 41:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the thing is,
41:56 --> 41:57 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no.
41:57 --> 42:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, you would probably have Robla's hit seventh and Leo Reeva's hit eighth and JP Crawford hit nine.
42:03 --> 42:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, maybe in this scenario, JP moves up to the eighth spot to break up the lefties and writeies a little bit and Reeva's hits nine.
42:10 --> 42:11 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.
42:11 --> 42:14 [SPEAKER_01]: and revosts has been a solid on base guy, right?
42:14 --> 42:16 [SPEAKER_01]: So like him hitting ninth is totally fun.
42:16 --> 42:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I had the same lineups.
42:17 --> 42:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
42:18 --> 42:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So just with Julio hitting second.
42:20 --> 42:28 [SPEAKER_01]: So in summary, versus right, he's Donovan Julio Cal, Nailer, Randy, Canzone, Rayleigh, Col Young, J.B. Crawford.
42:28 --> 42:35 [SPEAKER_01]: And then versus left, he's Donovan Julio Cal, Nailer, Arosa, Rana, Rob Reffs Knight, or Robless for you, us, J.B. Crawford.
42:36 --> 42:36 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
42:37 --> 42:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's pretty well set out.
42:39 --> 42:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Leo's gonna get some opportunities with the roster being this left-handed heavy.
42:43 --> 42:45 [SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna need his right-handed hitting skills in the lineup.
42:45 --> 42:48 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not gonna get a whole lot of chances as a lefty.
42:48 --> 42:50 [SPEAKER_01]: If everybody is healthy this year, I don't think.
42:50 --> 42:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Because everyone else on the infield is left-handed.
42:53 --> 42:55 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's another one of the problems the Mariners have.
42:55 --> 42:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Highlighted, their infield is all left-handers.
42:58 --> 42:59 [SPEAKER_01]: All of them.
43:00 --> 43:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, it's not that Leo will get no opportunities, but you're right, there'll be other guys that are probably prioritized over him.
43:06 --> 43:15 [SPEAKER_00]: So, he'll need to hit righty, but he's a switch hitter for a reason, he's a versatile guy for a reason, and hey, what do I say about Leo Revas?
43:15 --> 43:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Super easy due to Rufor, so shout out to him.
43:18 --> 43:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Mikhail Doyle on Instagram closes us out, and the question is, would the Mariners be willing to balloon their payroll to keep all of the starting pitching?
43:28 --> 43:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Man, I wish I could sit here and say, yes, I really do, man.
43:32 --> 43:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I really wish they'd just open up the checkbook and keep the whole rotation.
43:36 --> 43:37 [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think they're going to.
43:38 --> 43:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I think if it's up, I mean, not everybody may want to stay long-term.
43:45 --> 43:54 [SPEAKER_00]: But unfortunately, how this ownership works is, they set what is a decently hard cap budget.
43:54 --> 43:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying you couldn't go a million or two over it.
43:58 --> 44:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Once you get to a certain point with their spending, they're not going to go much further over.
44:05 --> 44:06 [SPEAKER_01]: So yes, the budget is a reason.
44:06 --> 44:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I also think the reason is they are so confident in their development that they would rather allocate that money elsewhere, like to offense.
44:15 --> 44:17 [SPEAKER_01]: like you could pay some of the starters like you pay Brian will.
44:17 --> 44:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I would want to pay Brian will and I'd want to pay Logan Gilbert as well.
44:22 --> 44:26 [SPEAKER_01]: But the Mariners developed this entire rotation and they did it in a variety of ways, right?
44:26 --> 44:34 [SPEAKER_01]: They did it through first round picks, George Kirby, Logan Gilbert, they did it through trade, Louise Castillo, and then they did it through later round picks and Brian won Bryce Miller.
44:35 --> 44:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And they've had a arousing success with this.
44:38 --> 44:47 [SPEAKER_01]: And now they have two guys in their farm system who are going to be rated higher than every single one of these guys were as a prospect in Ryan Sloan and Kate Anderson.
44:48 --> 44:52 [SPEAKER_01]: You think they're confident in their ability to develop starting pitching, I would say they are.
44:52 --> 44:58 [SPEAKER_01]: And we haven't even seen any of the other pitchers really, from this past year, get a chance to develop in the Mariners minor leagues.
44:59 --> 45:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Could a Griffin Hugus?
45:01 --> 45:08 [SPEAKER_01]: develop into not exactly price-miller but someone who could be a minorly of major league starter at some point.
45:09 --> 45:10 [SPEAKER_01]: It's entirely possible.
45:11 --> 45:16 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners got to be so confident in their ability to develop pictures that they don't see.
45:16 --> 45:29 [SPEAKER_01]: The long-term value and overspending on paying their starters when they know with the combination of their development and their ballpark, they're going to get good results out of their pictures no matter what if their process remains the same.
45:29 --> 45:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, I mean, could somebody like Michael Morales now that he's healthy have another big year, and he factors into some extent to be a big league starter, for example.
45:39 --> 45:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying he'll be Ryan Sloan or Kate Anderson, but a big league starter.
45:43 --> 45:45 [SPEAKER_00]: And then that doesn't even factor into the guys.
45:45 --> 45:49 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners will draft this upcoming year and the next year and the next year.
45:49 --> 45:51 [SPEAKER_00]: They do just find a way to turn them out.
45:51 --> 45:52 [SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty incredible.
45:53 --> 45:58 [SPEAKER_00]: So, there are a couple of guys I really want to keep, specifically, Brian Wu Logan Gilbert.
45:59 --> 46:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And not to say the others wouldn't be worth it too, like Kirby, Bryce Miller, like, again, if you were to tell us those guys were getting extended.
46:05 --> 46:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd be like, awesome, but they are confident in their pitching development.
46:11 --> 46:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I also still hope they develop a little bit more.
46:15 --> 46:26 [SPEAKER_00]: minorly depth in terms of pictures because right now for as good as Sloan and Kd Anderson are there's not a ton behind them right now there will be guys that I'm sure pop out and surprise people because it happens every year.
46:27 --> 46:33 [SPEAKER_00]: It's happened with Logan Evans, it's happened with Brian Lou and Bryce Miller, it's happened with Brandon Garcia when he was here, it's happened with a bunch of guys.
46:34 --> 46:35 [SPEAKER_00]: But
46:36 --> 46:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I would like to see them just put a little more pitching up together in the miners.
46:40 --> 46:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing I think they won't because they always do it.
46:41 --> 46:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I just like to see it happen.
46:43 --> 46:45 [SPEAKER_01]: And where is that depth you might ask?
46:45 --> 46:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'll tell you where it is.
46:47 --> 46:50 [SPEAKER_01]: That depth was traded for Randy Rosarena.
46:50 --> 46:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And that depth was also traded for Brendan Donovan.
46:53 --> 46:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Imagine the Mariners Farm System now.
46:56 --> 46:59 [SPEAKER_01]: for the people who would call themselves a prospect hugger.
46:59 --> 47:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's play a hypothetical game here.
47:01 --> 47:08 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners lineup right now does not have Randy a Rose Rainer, a Brendan Donovan in it, which means we would be reigning the alarm bell really loud right now.
47:08 --> 47:12 [SPEAKER_01]: It would be, it would be screaming off the rails at this point.
47:12 --> 47:14 [SPEAKER_01]: But your farm system will look like this.
47:14 --> 47:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Gate Anderson, Ryan Sloan, Brody Hopkins, and Drangel O'Sange of four top 100 pitching prospects.
47:21 --> 47:24 [SPEAKER_01]: All of them, by the way, who could debut within a year and a half.
47:25 --> 47:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's true and the great thing is you know the great thing.
47:28 --> 47:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
47:28 --> 47:32 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't need for top level minorly pitching prospects.
47:32 --> 47:46 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't you would be sitting here right now and being like Mariners have almost a full rotation in the miners and they don't need half of them Yeah, correct That's right and they'll find more pitching they just always do but
47:46 --> 47:47 [SPEAKER_00]: It would be nice to see them.
47:48 --> 47:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, open up the budget to keep some more of these pictures.
47:51 --> 47:52 [SPEAKER_00]: The whole rotation might be tough.
47:53 --> 47:57 [SPEAKER_00]: To keep dry will be loading over at the very, very least.
47:58 --> 48:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's what I, that's what I, that's what I sit and wish for as I'm sure a lot of fans do.
48:02 --> 48:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't see, yeah, I don't see ballooning the payroll as the Mariners strategy.
48:06 --> 48:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know if I see it as my strategy right now.
48:08 --> 48:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Like if you have, let's say if you have like three max, let's say, for the Mariners here and out have three max contracts to hand out either in free agency or signing a starting picture.
48:19 --> 48:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you want to spend all of those balloon contracts on your starting rotation?
48:25 --> 48:27 [SPEAKER_00]: No, you probably need some offense.
48:27 --> 48:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what I think too.
48:28 --> 48:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Whether it be a free agent, whether it be an extension.
48:30 --> 48:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, if they come in with a cap that requires all these teams to spend and maybe they cap the, they cap how much you can spend on a contract and everyone's in on the bidding on some of these guys makes guys a little bit more available, right?
48:44 --> 48:45 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's an option.
48:46 --> 48:49 [SPEAKER_00]: But the Mariners wouldn't even balloon the payroll for Kyle Tucker.
48:49 --> 48:55 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to do it for him, you might do it for nobody.
48:55 --> 48:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'd hope they be in on him.
48:57 --> 48:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I really do.
48:58 --> 48:59 [SPEAKER_01]: That's possible.
49:00 --> 49:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll see.
49:00 --> 49:02 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a good question, though.
49:02 --> 49:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd like, I want to pay these guys, but the Mariners got a pretty good system in place and they got a good park to support a lot of these pictures.
49:09 --> 49:09 [SPEAKER_01]: So it doesn't.
49:10 --> 49:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Who knows what a George Kirby or Bryce Miller looks when they have to pitch 32 games away from Timo will park?
49:17 --> 49:19 [SPEAKER_01]: You never know until they do it.
49:20 --> 49:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a great, a great.
49:23 --> 49:25 [SPEAKER_00]: And we've seen what some of the road struggles have been like.
49:25 --> 49:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Not really for wooing Gilbert as much.
49:28 --> 49:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Gilbert had a little bit more of it this year.
49:30 --> 49:34 [SPEAKER_00]: But you're right, some of these mariners have really thrived into you mobile parks, so you just don't know.
49:35 --> 49:36 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't know.
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