Episode 59: Scott Braun (Foul Territory) And The Mariners Limp To The Finish Line

00:00:00 Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number fifty nine of the Marine Layer podcast. Today we welcome on Scott Braun, the executive producer and host of Foul Territory TV. You might have seen it on YouTube or on your favorite podcast platform. Scott aj Perzinski and Eric Kratz and a bunch of other former big leaguers host a new kind of baseball media that we're going to dive into with Scott. It's super interesting, so we recommend you stick around for that. A lot has happened also for the Mariners in the past week, and we have some thoughts. 00:00:32 Speaker 2: Before we give you those thoughts and really get going with this episode, make sure to check us out on our audio platforms that's Apple, Spotify, Google, and Amazon. Follow us there, download our episodes, give us those five star reviews. Reviews that download seriously do help us out a lot. We also have a video side to this podcast on YouTube, which you can check out, like comment, subscribe, and turn those notification bells on, and then follow us on social media. We're always active there Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, YouTube, tube, shorts at marine Layer pot. 00:01:02 Speaker 3: Let's get it. 00:01:03 Speaker 1: Rolling and we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Layer podcast recording here on Tuesday afternoon, September twenty sixth, part of the Just Baseball Media podcast network. And Wow, Lyle, Wow, where where do we start? Do we start by saying they should probably not play any more games in Texas this season? Or would you like to go some other direction? 00:01:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine not playing a game in Arlington, Texas maybe for the rest of time. Oh my good Oh my goodness. 00:01:43 Speaker 4: Is what I want to say. 00:01:44 Speaker 1: What a disaster? I mean, what what a disaster of a weekend? And let's let's throw this disclaimer out here. I think Lyle and I we both frame ourselves in this sense as fans, we might we're gonna get a little bit more animated this episode than we would in any other episode for good reason. As you know, the Mariners have stunk this past week. They've lost the first four as of recording to the Rangers and the Astros, and this crucial ten game stretch of the season. So if you would like a bit of a calmer sense, skip ahead to our skip ahead to our conversation with Scott Braun And I think it'll be a little bit better in that sense. But lol, and I have some thoughts here so we're gonna just get them out. Lyle, do you have anywhere you would like to to start with this ten game stretch? I mean it, everything we outlined last week of what the Mariners needed to do in this ten game stretch to jump into playoff position and to put themselves ahead in this division race, they did the exact opposite. It's and it's really fucking annoying to watch as we sit here and watch the same mistakes happen over and over and over and over, and here we sit after they get shut out on Monday, Justin Verlander retires fifteen in a row in the middle of that ball game and just looking lifeless at home in front of a crowd of thirty nine thousand people on a Monday night, And there might have been one person there for how silent it was at the end of the game. 00:03:18 Speaker 2: What an absolute fucking disaster. That's where I want to start. You could not draw up a worse start to a ten game stretch than what they've gone through over the past four days. Honestly, of all the things we could start with, just as recently as Monday against the Astros, how about this. Why is it every time they play in front of a big crowd at home, they have an outing like that where they just fall flat and don't score any runs. 00:03:44 Speaker 1: Wish I had an answer for you, and it's the same. I thought it was kind of ironic. It was the same, like almost effort to show up, not saying who knows what the effort levels is? 00:03:56 Speaker 3: We don't know. 00:03:57 Speaker 1: They understand these are must win games, they understand what they need to do and then get into the playoffs and they didn't do it. 00:04:02 Speaker 3: But after the game, Lyle, wasn't it just so fitting? 00:04:06 Speaker 1: Scott Servis goes up to the podium for his postgame press conference, gives his spiel at the beginning, he'll, you know, recap the game and give his initial thoughts and then take questions. He didn't get a single question in his postgame presser, not a single question. He walks off the podium after ten seconds of being up there, And I couldn't think of any more fitting way to be like, Wow, it really does seem over, isn't it. People just are out of questions on trying to explain why this team is performing like this? 00:04:39 Speaker 2: Could you think any questions in that moment other than maybe what went wrong for Luis Castillo, what went wrong with the offense? I feel like there were some questions to ask. 00:04:47 Speaker 1: No, I'm sure there were, But in the end, don't you feel like you know the answers to it? I mean, Luis has had these outings this year where he has elite stuff, but his command stinks. He was a strike away from getting out of that second inning, and it didn't matter. 00:05:05 Speaker 3: It didn't matter you. 00:05:07 Speaker 1: He you know, throws a middle middle pitch on a two strike count and boom, all of a sudden, there are four runs on the board. 00:05:13 Speaker 3: And at that point it wasn't over. 00:05:17 Speaker 1: At that point, it was over when you have your best player who struggled over the last ten or so days. Julio at the plate in the third inning, with the bases loaded and all the chance to make a statement. It's like, hey, we know this is a must win game. We need a big swing here from the biggest, biggest guy in this lineup. It's a breaking ball, a middle end, clearly in the strike zone, a pitch he probably should hit. Justin Verlander historically said a good curveball, but he's kind of old now. Julio rolls over on it, rolls the short grounds into a double play and the Mariners don't reach base again until the ninth inning. How deflating is that? Like, how does that draw any inspiration? 00:05:56 Speaker 3: It doesn't, It doesn't. 00:06:01 Speaker 2: Are we going to talk about how they've now lost ten games in a row to teams with a record better than five hundred? 00:06:09 Speaker 3: Surely isn't. 00:06:11 Speaker 1: Surely doesn't draw any inspiration that they're actually gonna make the playoffs, because you know who you play in the playoffs is teams with a record above five hundred and oh, by the way, that historic stretch they went on in August, Yeah, the schedule, as we like to point out, was pretty soft. 00:06:28 Speaker 3: It was pretty soft. In August. 00:06:29 Speaker 1: We said, hey, September rolls around. The schedule is going to get a whole lot tougher, and to make the playoffs, you're gonna need to play well. And they've done the exact opposite now eight and fourteen. In September eight and fourteen, just folding over against the teams you need to be to get into the playoffs when it needs the most, and both you and I are disappointed. It's been losing. George Kirby starts losing, Luis Castillo starts we'll talk about the Texas Rangers series here in a little bit, because we have lots to say about that one, and the Maritors just it's seemingly no show in Texas again, but every which way that they could fail in this final month they have. The offense has slumped again and has gone back below league average, the pitching is having its worst month of the season all at once, while over the weekend they still somehow make these bone headed base running mistakes. 00:07:30 Speaker 3: Again. It's September. 00:07:33 Speaker 1: Julio in Game three against the Rangers, doubles on second base, has a while he's on base, as a ground ball in front of him to the shortstop. And what does Julio do, Like the team has done all season long, he runs towards third base without looking and gets thrown out by a mile. 00:07:48 Speaker 3: I mean, it just keeps happening. 00:07:51 Speaker 1: It keeps happening, and it boils over for all of us who have to watch it day in and day out. 00:07:57 Speaker 2: So some people get mad when guys get thrown out at the play. But in case you're in that group of people, we'll sit here and remind you that a lot of those plays are what they call contact plays, which is as soon as the balls hit the guy's running, so that is designed in advance, and when that happens and somebody gets thrown out at the plate, it's frustrating. You want the run to score. But in that situation, that was the play. The runner did what they were supposed to do and it just didn't work. What you're referencing with Julio trying to take third base on a ground ball to the left side while he's at second base with no force play, those are base running mistakes. Those are straight up base running mistakes that have been going on all season. 00:08:33 Speaker 3: And the plays in front of you. 00:08:35 Speaker 1: You're watching the ball, you're seeing where the defender is, knowing how he could throw you out at third base, and it still happens in a series so crucial. 00:08:44 Speaker 3: Let's talk about this Ranger series. 00:08:46 Speaker 1: I think we have more to talk about with this series than we do against the Astro series. 00:08:50 Speaker 3: As of now. 00:08:51 Speaker 1: Somehow, well, despite this rhetoric, you and I are are exchanging right now. If the Mariners win the next two games of this Astro series, they're actually in the drive for a playoff spot. Believe it or not, My faith level is zero right now. 00:09:05 Speaker 3: It is zero. 00:09:06 Speaker 1: I'm crystal clear, hold this against me. I'm writing them off. They're done, They're toast. Okay that but that is the case. So let's go to this Ranger series. What were the couple things Lyle we highlighted that they needed to do to win this Ranger series Off the top of your head, where are two of them? 00:09:25 Speaker 2: We did three keys over at pub eighty five this past week, and a couple of the ones that I highlighted they didn't do. 00:09:31 Speaker 4: What did we say? 00:09:32 Speaker 2: They said they needed to win the Logan Gilbert start well, Logan pitched well. That was the one bright spot of the whole series. They didn't win it. We said they need to stop Corey Seer. We said, please, please, please make somebody else beat you. What does Corey Seeker do? 00:09:47 Speaker 5: Oh? 00:09:47 Speaker 2: He just hits two fat tanks over the course of three games. That totally sucked the life out of the building on the Mariner side of things at least. So they didn't do that despite us talking about it. 00:09:58 Speaker 3: He had a tank in his first at pad of the series. I think. 00:10:04 Speaker 1: So here's the biggest here's the biggest indictment on that series. The Rangers rotation, as we know is hanging on by an absolute thread. It is barely slugging its way towards the end of this season. And yet the Mariners starter got bounced first in all three games. Your strength got bounced early in all three games. How is that supposed to give you a chance to win? We said, they need to knock the Rangers starters out as early as possible and get into that Rangers bullpen early. You gotta get gotta do it on Friday, so they're tired by the time you get there on Sunday, and you give yourself a chance to win against Brian in Brian will start. 00:10:46 Speaker 3: Well, you couldn't do that because. 00:10:49 Speaker 1: Right off the bat on Friday, right off the bat on Friday, they're facing Dane Dunning, who's really struggled this month, I mean really struggled. And Inane Dunning's first eighteen batters he faced in that game, he threw three pitches or less to the first eleven of the first eighteen batters, trying to work the count up to get him out of the game. They did the exact opposite and did not score on him until the sixth inning. Dane Dunning dude like man like talk about setting a bad precedent. That was a bad precedent. 00:11:27 Speaker 2: Right off the bat, Montgomery was the best of the three that they saw for the condition that everybody's in. And Montgomery's not somebody who strikes a bunch of dudes out. He's not even somebody that should go out and look like a Hall of Famer against you. He's been good, but to pitch the way he pitched against the team that's trying to fight for a postseason spot with an offensive as we know, when they're clicking, can be really good. They just didn't show up again on that Saturday. They didn't score a run. They just got shut out by Jordan Montgomery. The big one is Sunday for me, because, honestly, as bad as the series was, if you win even one of those three games, you salvage it, you're in a better spot now than you were. Obviously, if you get swept, you feel like there's still enough momentum going your way, or you can turn this all around. On Sunday, when they faced Nativaldi, who is legitimately injured. He is pitching injured, and this is the guy that, despite having a really good year as a whole, is probably pitching his worst when they need him the most. Oh, by the way, you didn't have to face Max Scherzer. He's basically done for the year. We know Jacob de Gram's done for the year. So this is lower and lower on the totem pole you're getting with the Rangers' arms. And Avaldi went out there and had no issues. You have a couple runs, but ultimately didn't have any issues. 00:12:40 Speaker 1: They didn't knock him out into the sixth inning. I mean, niit Avaldi was. If we're talking about the guy who's actually hanging on by a thread, it was him. You saw his savant breakdown of the game. Every single one of his pitches was down two and a half miles an hour from his season average. If there's no if that doesn't show you that a pitcher is out there drowning with their stuff and they clearly just don't have it, I don't know what does. And that deteriorates your stuff across the board. A spin rateser down, his velocity's down, his command is down, and it didn't matter because they could not knock him out. Pitching hurt until the sixth inning, and by that time, entering that inning, the score was already sit seven to two and you're staring uphill at Mount Everest trying to get over that. 00:13:26 Speaker 4: So that's what I was gonna get at. 00:13:27 Speaker 2: Look when I say Avaldi had no issues, I don't mean he had no issues. Yeah, he gave up five runs in five innings. That's not a good start. But the fact the Rangers had put the game so out of hand, at least as it seemed to that point, is what it means by he had no issues, because the Mariners should have knocked him around much earlier in the game than they did and knocked him out to get to the bullpen, because that was the other key of the series. Go hit the Rangers bullpen. They've been awful. They didn't do that. Now here's what I've got to bring up. While we're on the topic of Texas. I haven't heard this talked about much at all, But I'll tell you what my biggest gripe so far is with this series. And maybe this is crazy, Okay, let me rephrase it. Not my biggest gripe, but it's high up there. I had major issues with this when it happened. Why in the world, once cut the lead to two runs on Sunday, did Edward Bizardo go back out to throw another inning. I haven't seen this talked about much. I haven't heard people break in it down much. Maybe this is a me thing, and maybe I'm hung up on it. You can tell me if I'm wrong. But in my opinion, look, when it was seven to two and you put them in there for the first inning, sure you're down a lot, you're not trying to use the best guys in the bullpen. He three a scoreless inning, Great, move on to the next guy, you'd think. But then they score three runs to cut it to seven to five. You would still probably think the reliever is only going to throw an inning. Maybe Bizartro would get stretched out to two if they were still down five. No, it was a two run game, So they send Bizarto out again for another inning of work. This isn't munnos, this isn't brash, this is in topa. It's Edward Bizardo that they sent out for another inning of work, and he goes and gives up a home run. 00:15:04 Speaker 4: Rangers go back and stretch their lead. 00:15:07 Speaker 2: That was my biggest issue, because it felt like momentum was starting to build and you could start to treat that Sunday game, like a game where you're playing close and really fighting for something. When Edward Bizarto was out there for that second inning, that to me is not what it felt like. 00:15:22 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering why, if you were going to stretch anyone two winnings, why not use your best relievers. You used Munno Sintopa after despite the fact you were trailing, So why not extend one of them for an inning and a third and the other for an inning and two thirds? Like it was clear you want to win this game. So I feel like that's a more logical explanation of using your bullpen than letting Bizartro out there in a close game. 00:15:51 Speaker 6: This fall, stream your favorites and discover more with Disney Plus, Hulu and ESPN Plus Together. Watch the highly anticipated news season of Loki and see the ghost materialize in Haunted Mansion on Disney Plus. 00:16:05 Speaker 3: Catch more frights. 00:16:06 Speaker 6: With The Boogeyman, an American horror story Delegate on Hulu and on ESPN Plus. Get into the action with college football and NFL. 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They didn't And it's and it's impossible to win a game when one starter exits down six to two and the other starter exits down four nothing, and then after he exits two more of his runners that he put on score and the score ends up six nothing. So six nothing in six to two are the scores when those two starters exit. How are you supposed to win games like that? 00:17:40 Speaker 2: You can't because then you're asking your bullpen that we know has been worked very hard all year. They were rested more for that series to be fair, but they've worked very hard all year to throw a ton of innings when you're already down a bunch of runs. Look, I know they're asking Brian Miller. We just both did it there. We're in the season. I know they're asking Bryce Miller and Brian wu to do a lot. Wu especially, And we cannot stress this enough. He threw fifty seven innings last year in twenty twenty two. He threw less than seventy innings over three seasons in college. He's at nearly one hundred and thirty innings this year, which is way more than anybody expected him to throw. And those one hundred and thirty innings are combined between Double A Arkansas and the majors. I know it's a lot to ask, but he is out there. That's who they're rolling with. And as Veilo has gone back up in his last couple starts, they needed more from him than that. They needed way more from him than that, and they needed more from Miller too, And it's just impossible to win those games when you get down that early in two of three outings. That's too much on a bullpen, it's too much on an offense. And despite them nearly coming back both Friday and Sunday, you just can't set yourself up to win like that ever. 00:18:49 Speaker 1: And it makes you nauseous to think they had the time run either on base or out the plate in every single ninth inning, all of them. And they could have gotten a clutch hit in any of the ninth innings against any of the guys the Rangers had out there on the mound, knowing the struggles they have had closing games. Do you know what the Rangers did all three days? They got saves, which is the same amount of saves the Rangers that had in the past two months. 00:19:14 Speaker 3: Isn't that's funny? Isn't it? 00:19:16 Speaker 1: This in one series they got more saves than they've had in the past two months. 00:19:21 Speaker 3: And just awful, just awful, man. 00:19:25 Speaker 1: And we're we're sitting here and the Mariners are essentially now one loss away from their what forty first season of no playoffs out of forty six? 00:19:35 Speaker 3: Do I have my math right? 00:19:37 Speaker 2: That's right. What they've made the playoffs five times? 00:19:42 Speaker 1: Ever, five times out of is this season forty six or forty seven? 00:19:47 Speaker 3: I think it's forty seven, Okay, forty. 00:19:50 Speaker 1: Two of forty seven. Then that's what we're staring down the barrel of again. 00:19:54 Speaker 2: If I'm gonna if I'm gonna be slightly more optimistic, I know you're not. But just to provide the other perspective, if they get at one of three in this series from Houston, which is not good, but if they get one of three and then win Thursday, hypothetically, in that scenario, they'd be one out with three to go, and they do have the tiebreaker over the Astros, So then you'd essentially only need to gain one game in three days, which is not ideal, but it's still possible. But point being, you're in big trouble if you don't win each of Tuesday and Wednesday against Houston, and if you get swept, you're really done. 00:20:26 Speaker 3: Yeah, you are really done. 00:20:27 Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, but like, okay, so back to your point about having the having a chance to win each of those three games late, you're right, and like you look at the ball, dom Canzone hit on Sunday that was crushed. It was on the ground, but crushed. It was just right at Nate Low. But I'm sorry, like again, I'm going back to it again. I cannot get over this Bizarto thing because Evan Carter hit a two run home run off Bizarto in that second inning of work. The Mariners lost that game by one run. What if they went to anybody in that bullpen that you really rely on, didn't even have to be Brash Romugnos at that point. What if it was spied, What if it was Toba, What if it was Sausato, What if it was Campbell, any of those guys. But no, in that game, when you've already lost the first two and you need to salvage that series, you're only down two runs, I can't understand why he was out there. I'm sorry. 00:21:15 Speaker 1: Isn't it frustrating too to see the performances on the rookies on both sides in this series? Your two rookies who you sent out there, who have been great this season and you wouldn't be where you are without them, go out there and have two of their worst starts of this season, and then rookie Evan Carter for the Rangers had a great series, by the way, as the number nine hitter in their lineup. That's a pretty good number nine hitter in any lineup in baseball hits two home runs, That dude's gonna be really good. I was still shocked White Langford's not with this ball club, but you know, that's one thing. And then Josh Young still technically a rookie too, so man disappointing. 00:21:59 Speaker 2: I'm I mean, let's say it again, and I wrote an article about this this week, which you can go check out over on Just baseball dot com if you're curious. The Mariners are not in this position without Brian Wu and Bryce Miller. Like, let's make that abundantly clear. There are many teams out there that do not lose two starting pitches, that lose two starting pitchers and never recover. The Mariners have arguably upgraded from both where Ray and Marco Gonzalez were to what Brian Wu and Bryce Miller have done. They are not in this position without them, but that doesn't change the fact that you were relying on them in your most important series of the season to that point and you just didn't get anything. 00:22:33 Speaker 4: Like, Yeah, it's that simple. 00:22:35 Speaker 1: I needed, probably needed a starter at the deadline, right, Probably probably needed it. 00:22:42 Speaker 2: What you know, you just spark something in my head. Yeah, I don't know if i'd say a starter at the deadline. Here's something that maybe isn't talked about enough, funny enough. I was talking to my dad about this. Did everything not change when Emerson Hancock got hurt? And Emerson Hancock's not supposed to be the key piece to this team. He was supposed to help. But think about it. They were slated to go with a six man rotation in August, right, Wu and Miller were going to get more rest. Hancock looked pretty promising in those three outings. Everybody was going to get a little bit more time off, innings would be managed. All of a sudden, Hancock gets hurt. He's done for the year. Everything changed. That's when the bullpen started getting worked more. That's when wo and Miller were pitching on shorter rest. I think that's making a big difference right now, and it's not getting talked about that much, but I think it's making a difference. 00:23:27 Speaker 3: I think so too. 00:23:28 Speaker 1: I think where the perspective I come from is that I think a lot of people as you know, wanted a starter at the deadline instead of having Emerson Hancock, who we know is well documented with his injury issues in the minors, and they wanted to give him a shot in the big leagues. And I think the reasoning for not getting a starter at the deadline was that Emerson was going to come up and fill that role. But now that we're sitting here at the end of the season, like Hancock made two starts before getting hurt or three starts, sorry, three starts before getting hurt, and you were left out to dry with no starter because the deadline had already passed, and you could I mean, you could have supplemented. I would say you could have supplemented. I don't know who exactly it would have been. But the lack of supplementing your starting pitching at the deadline hurt you here because you could have used an extra guy. And we go back to the reasoning for them not really adding that much of the deadline to say they didn't they did not think this team was good enough to add to at the deadline and really push real chips forward to make a difference, like at a starter at the deadline. Well, that thought process has really crushed them over the last three weeks of the season because they're out of gas. They needed more from more players, and they didn't get it. 00:24:55 Speaker 2: This has been so exhausting. I hope they prove us wrong. I hope everything we've just said in these last twenty four twenty five minutes gets totally proved wrong. They go out and totally turn this thing around. Maybe they'll go out and win six in a row. Let's just swing on a star and wish that that they go win their final six and turn everything around. But it's hard to really sit here and say that we believe that's gonna happen right now. And I'll tell you what. These are as excruciating a four games as I think as I've ever watched as a fan. Some of you might say, oh, well, the Astro Series last year, Yeah, that was really tough, But in the grand scheme of things, the way I look back at that series is they were neck and neck with the team that was by far the best team in baseball went on to win the World Series and could have won all three of those games, which gave me more optimism heading into this season. I took away from that series while I was really disappointed at the time. There's a lot to be excited about. These four games are as maddening as I've ever watched period. I've never been so furious watching four games. 00:25:54 Speaker 1: It's out there to win, you know how the Rangers win baseball games, and two out of those three games, the Mariners were forced to play right into the Rangers way of winning baseball games. And whose lineup are you taking. 00:26:10 Speaker 4: Right now? It's the Rangers. 00:26:12 Speaker 3: Yep. 00:26:13 Speaker 1: That's how went. You played your strength, you win, you played their strength, you probably lose, unfortunately, And that's how it plays out. And now here the Mariners are sitting on the outside looking in. Yeah, I mean, and let's not forget what this Houston series. The Astros just got swept by the Royals this weekend, the Royals. 00:26:33 Speaker 3: And it didn't. 00:26:34 Speaker 1: Look like it affected them at all last night on Monday, not at all. And I said it earlier on the podcast. I'll say it again. We did confidence levels last week. I put five. I'm at zero. Now I'm at zero. I'm like I'm out of gas too, I am. 00:26:52 Speaker 2: Thursday will be an interesting episode. Which programming note for Thursday, we are going to record after the game Thursday, so one way or another, everybody's caught up heading into the weekend. Everybody's caught up after that Thursday game against the Rangers. For where the Mariners are at. I know sometimes we record a little bit early, but this late in the year, with games that are going to be this important, we're going to be very timely with it. So when we record for Friday's show, it'll be after the Thursday game, So tune. 00:27:17 Speaker 4: In for that. 00:27:18 Speaker 2: Let's hope they turn it around. Time is really running out, but you never know what can happen. It all starts here on Tuesday. 00:27:25 Speaker 1: Yeah, and next week, if they make the playoffs, will stick to two episodes a week or copy it could be more than that. I think we might do game gamely episodes should they make it. If they don't, we will go back to one episode a week, and next week will be our season grades and takeaways. 00:27:43 Speaker 4: Yes it will. 00:27:44 Speaker 2: So we've been doing two episodes a week now since about July. When next season starts again, that's what we'll do again. 00:27:49 Speaker 4: Too. 00:27:49 Speaker 2: Is in season, we'll do two shows a week like we've been doing off season, will do one a week, but they're in the playoffs, come Wednesday's episode, or honestly not Wednesday's episode, because schedule changes that there's postseason out postseason schedule. If they're in the postseason, like TJ said, we will probably be doing a recap after every game. If they're not, we'll go back to one show week. Anyway, quick word here by the way from our friends over at Pigotcha's Pub eighty five in Kirkland. Pigotcha's Pub eighty five. It's on eighty fifth Street east of four oh five in Kirkland. It's got the best pizza in town. It's got awesome food, drinks that there's twenty two TVs in the place, watch all the sports. You want to go to place in the area to go watch sports. And they've got some really good happy hour deals too too. We've talked to you guys about that that from two to six Monday through Friday, there's happy hour deals over at Pagotcha's Pub eighty five three dollars. Domestic beers four dollars, Manny's Blue Moons four dollars, Mac and Jack's four dollars, Wells four dollars, house wines. Go check it out, Go watch a Mariner's game there this week. Go watch some playoff games over there. If they're in it, or even if they're not in it, just go over and have a meal, hang out with your friends anyway over at Pagotcha's Pub eighty five in Kirkland. 00:28:59 Speaker 3: Scott bron Lyle, Yeah, more. 00:29:01 Speaker 2: Positive note, Scott Broun haven't recorded the interview yet. We're set to you here in a few minutes actually, and we're really excited to do so because this is a guy that's done a ton in sports media. He's been on the MLB Network, He's done play by play for national games. He's now hosting a new baseball type of medium called Foul Territory with a bunch of former big leaguers. That's super cool. We're excited to talk to him. 00:29:25 Speaker 1: Should be interesting and he gets to talk with the most interesting position there is. He hosts with a couple of catchers, Aj Perzinski, Eric Kratz. It's also works in Adam Jones, Todd Frazier and a couple others as well. It's a really interesting product. He should go check them out there on YouTube and all the podcast platforms as well. But if you want to learn a little bit more, about them. Let's get to our interview now with Scott Braun. 00:29:51 Speaker 2: All right, we've got Scott Broun on with us. He's the host of foul Territory, and it looks like he's in the airport right now if you're watching us on YouTube. Can we get an airport review, Scott? 00:30:00 Speaker 7: Newark Airport is nice, quiet and very freshly renovated. I am in Terminal A, which I think is the new one or the newest renovation renovation, so it looks great. 00:30:15 Speaker 5: I found a. 00:30:16 Speaker 7: Somewhat quiet spot, which is tough to do in an airport, especially when some of the airports like to play music that no one wants to hear. 00:30:22 Speaker 5: But compared to most yeah, New York area has drastically improved. 00:30:27 Speaker 7: A Guardia, which I'm at a lot too, has done a lot of renovations. 00:30:32 Speaker 5: Not that people are probably tuning in. 00:30:33 Speaker 7: For this, but I do fly all over the place, so maybe in my next life I'll do airport reviews. 00:30:38 Speaker 1: Do you have like a ranking of the three New York airports? Because this is kind of like a niche subject. I'm like, my family's from New York, so is his, so we have some experience in the area. I usually rank LaGuardia down there at the bottom. 00:30:52 Speaker 7: Well, LaGuardia has gone through significant changes though, and gotten much better. That's the thing is if you're looking at the last one to three years, because everything strings together. For me, I don't know when the renovations occurred. I can't even remember at this point, but it's recent for me. I'm going to go JFK last on location because unless you are coming from the other side of JFK, I'm coming from usually a New York City type area. It just ends up feeling like it takes so much longer to get from LaGuardia to JFK because it's on the same trek there. But it just feels like you get caught and I am a flight pusher, like often grabbing the gate right before it closes, the whole deal. So you can imagine the extra like thirty five minutes it could take sitting on traffic in that area just destroys me. 00:31:46 Speaker 5: So I'll go. 00:31:48 Speaker 7: I'll go LaGuardia one, Newark to JFK three. But Newark's quickly catching up based on their renovations here. 00:31:58 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, when you're not rushing around at airports and trying to grab that door to make a flight. You host a new, pretty new baseball show called foul Territory where you have a bunch of former big leaguers on and it's a whole panel of guys. 00:32:11 Speaker 4: It's only been. 00:32:11 Speaker 2: Going a few months now, but it's really cool, just as two people who've gotten to sit and watch it from afar, what drew you to go and join that chance to make that opportunity a real thing? 00:32:21 Speaker 7: So we launched publicly in March, and it had been many conversations with current and former players over the years, looking primarily at basketball and football and saying why not us, Why can't our sport have more of the player influence new media companies and podcast digital social focus with a very authentic spin to everything, no holding back, cursing, just not worrying about another employer. 00:32:50 Speaker 5: It's independent. 00:32:51 Speaker 7: Feel like we're seeing that from any top athlete in those other sports, and yet where are our big voices coming fresh out of the game and then hearing those conversations from the fresh out of the game former players to the current players. So I think I want it to be a part of that narrative that brings baseball into more of a new media landscape and also just tells people what's going on like it is without restrictions, because I think that's important in our game. And I also think it's interesting. Baseball has so much drama and it's worth talking about. And sure that could be rules that could be beef with players, that could be dumb shit said by an owner, Like there's just so much to cover, So that's what drew me. It's a great group. It's a lot of different voices. But the similarity with everyone besides me just being the point guard Travi cop type, is that they are pretty recently out of the game, and I think that brings something unique to everyone. And also they're not held back by working for a team or lead or anything like that. 00:33:54 Speaker 5: So it's going to produce significantly different answers. 00:33:57 Speaker 7: And I was always like that, and my prior life working for MLB was always raising my hand to be the one who wanted to call games for Facebook and then YouTube versus just calling them on linear television. 00:34:10 Speaker 5: Like that was interesting to me. 00:34:11 Speaker 7: Let me work on those projects that was an audience and also an interface, right, a user interface that had comments built right into what you were watching. 00:34:22 Speaker 5: Questions, et cetera. 00:34:23 Speaker 7: I enjoyed that it actually took away from the game coverage sometimes right where you're calling a game and I'm keeping an eye on everyone asking questions. 00:34:31 Speaker 5: But I felt like that's how I would watch a game, and I want to include the people that are watching. They're very smart. 00:34:37 Speaker 7: Often some of them are done, and there's trolls and you can figure out ways to sift through that. 00:34:41 Speaker 1: Right to me, who is the one was there one player leading the charge of this trying to make this happen. 00:34:50 Speaker 7: No, I was part of the group that creative a. Jay Prazinski is one of the ogs. So I do the show primarily in Orlando from Monday to Thursday Friday, so sometimes we're on the road. Are often on the road for our partnership with bet MGM. Will end up at casinos, will end up at ballparks. Last week we're in Cincinnati and Aj is often leaving on Fridays to call a game for Fox, which obviously we want him to still do that. That is his game calling life and he's excellent at that. So yeah, it was myself and some other people behind the scenes on the baseball side that we're looking at the industry and saying I feel like there's a major void here. I mean I experienced this even in my past job at MLB. People were like, anyone know any good podcasts? And most people were like, nope for baseball, nope. You know, no offense to you guys. Obviously they're talking about the national side of things, but or they would just have some suggestions and feel like, hey, there's got to be more player content out there, and we would look to the Pat mcabee show, I Am Athlete, the Kelsey Brothers, all of these other avenues out there on the players side. 00:36:03 Speaker 5: That was not BS. 00:36:05 Speaker 7: It was just hey, here's what's going on in my life for the week, and here's my take on the sport. So that's where I came from. 00:36:12 Speaker 1: Is there something you realize now about players after doing this show that you didn't realize before? 00:36:21 Speaker 5: I would say, they're just like us. But I mean I've been around playing a lot while. Yeah, a lot rich here, although not all of them. 00:36:28 Speaker 7: Right, If you're a league minimum guy for a few years, like you're you're doing well, but it's not like I can retire off, you know, three years on a league minimum salary six figures in the bigs. You're twenty five years old and you only made it for three years. You're still gonna have to do something else. So let's see. 00:36:49 Speaker 5: Is there anything that I've learned that I didn't realize? I have to think about it. 00:36:54 Speaker 7: I mean, I think there's a lot of things within the sport that I didn't realize even though I've been in Major League clubhouses for well over a decade, regularly every week basically on the road, especially the last several years. So for example, the prominence of being able to take the microphone on the bus and if you're a rookie you might have to sing, And that there's comedians that take over on a bus trip, which I think is cool and that humanizes the guys. And if you have a player asking that to another player, you'll usually potentially get the rted R version of the story, which I think is more interesting. So I think some of the things that the teams do together for the shit talking that guys do. I mean, we had Raddy Tilez, who's an absolute gem, back on yesterday, and actually I think his comments might have gotten a little bit misconstrued, but he didn't even carries just like whatever he's such a chill dude, and he wants people to realize how the sport operates with guys just going at each other in the locker room in a fun way. So Donaldson joins the Brewers right a couple of weeks ago, and one of our guys was like, oh, he's scared to talk to him, and Rady He's like no, he's like I went up to him, said some choice words like playfully and said introduce yourself to everyone. 00:38:07 Speaker 5: And then he's like, everyone knows who I am. 00:38:09 Speaker 7: You know, shit like that that you just love to be a fly on the wall for So, I think we're getting a lot more of that out there nowadays. Where I hadn't heard a lot of the back and forth in the past, I'm talking about the good back and forth, not that I met so. 00:38:22 Speaker 5: And so and he helped me move my pinky finger on my swing. Like we get a lot of that, Let's get something else. 00:38:29 Speaker 4: You know. 00:38:29 Speaker 2: What I really appreciate about your guys' show is also just the attire that you guys wear. Like you guys are laid back, Like you know a lot of you guys either wear T shirts or sweatshirts or just things that I think genuinely engage people more because I think your look can say a lot, and I think the fact you guys keep it casual is very inviting to a lot of fans who say okay, like they're not taking themselves too seriously, and I think that resonates with people. 00:38:52 Speaker 7: We were all big on that because I think there's way too much suit wearing in sports. It is so try hard. Who goes to a game wearing a suit? Baseball game? How many people do you see at a baseball game wearing a suit that doesn't work for the team? 00:39:10 Speaker 5: Zero? 00:39:11 Speaker 7: Maybe two as a joke, maybe Halloween. I don't know it just I don't get it. It's sports. It's not a wedding. It's not I don't know, funeral. Like everyone else is wearing chill clothing. And I don't think anybody's looking at a show, especially a show right like you're watching a show. I mean, it's the same thing with television. For me nowadays, I still think it's like just aggressive. 00:39:33 Speaker 5: I did that. 00:39:34 Speaker 7: I wore suit most days for most of my life, just now as an adult at MLB, and I felt silly most of the time, like people are watching me talk about such a fun topic in life, and I look like my life is on the line, you know, I don't know. It just doesn't make sense to me. So I'm with you. I'm such a T shirt, jeans, shorts, whatever kind of person, and so is basically everyone else in our sport. So that's the best way for people to feel comfortable. Also, if we had to dress up in suits every day, I wouldn't do it. 00:40:08 Speaker 5: I would quit. 00:40:09 Speaker 1: Are you guys gonna do it as a joke one Friday formal Friday? 00:40:13 Speaker 4: Wow? 00:40:15 Speaker 7: No, because it would break the rules. Wear whatever you want. That's the rules, Wear whatever you want. So maybe on Halloween or I don't know. I can't see a scenario where we'd actually wear a full on suit with got some meetings for the show and for the company. Even still, I mean some of those meetings, I think I've been like one step up. So it wasn't T shirt and shorts, but it wasn't too much of a step up. It might have been like short sleeve, button down and means, which is probably the furthest that will go, I hope. So if we're in suits a few years from now, unless somebody dumped so much cash on us for like a suit deal that we couldn't say no, then I'm good. 00:40:55 Speaker 1: I mean, you host what you host with two catchers, and you know they have so catchers have so much personality. They have to lead the infield and such, and sometimes, as the case with Aj and Eric, it takes them post career as well. With your show that you guys do, did that convince you that they have the biggest personalities on the field. Did you know that catchers already had the biggest personality before and it just worked out, or did all your interviews during this run of Foul Territory convince you that another position actually has the biggest personalities. 00:41:31 Speaker 7: Catchers are the quarterbacks. Anyone that says otherwise is wrong. I learned that in college. I worked for the Somerset Patriots in high school, so I started to see that college solidified it for me. I covered the University of Miami as I went there, and I called games there. 00:41:49 Speaker 5: But also this was the sweet spot for learning. 00:41:53 Speaker 7: A lot about what I know about the game now is I would spend summers in the kid Cood Baseball League calling games up there for the Chadow, and it was early days of doing broadcasting up there. Now they've got a full fledged operation for every team, and it had only been in the works for maybe three four years back then, started by some people that I know. They're kind of legends out there now for starting the whole process. But when I was there, the best interviews and the most reliable guys were like the three catchers on the team. There were other great ones too, but I learned from people around me they would go, oh, just go to the catchers, like he knows everything going on with the team. It's usually got to be a good communicator, great speak for all of that. So I feel I feel like that's the case. Plus they can break down offense and pitching better than most other position players. I think there's some position players that are like, I don't know, I don't pitch, okay, so. 00:42:44 Speaker 5: They have to know. 00:42:45 Speaker 7: I think that's such a money position in the sport, and still on a casual fan basis, I think it's underappreciated how good catchers. 00:42:54 Speaker 5: Can be as analysts in the sport. 00:42:56 Speaker 7: I think we happen to pick two of the best baseball personalities out there, but this is the platform for them. 00:43:03 Speaker 5: Age obviously does his games, that's different, but for a Jane Kratz. 00:43:06 Speaker 7: They want to talk like this, not in the cookie cutter twenty seconds to make your point, but be very calculated, calculated with it type of format. I actually auditioned Eric Kratz when we came to MLB, and I was like, he's too raw. 00:43:24 Speaker 5: He's got to do digital social pod. 00:43:27 Speaker 2: Which is really cool and it embodies everything you guys do and it's funny. Now going back to the whole entire thing, going back to again, how you approach your whole show, Like, we do a little bit of stuff like that. Like so we get out to some of the Mariners' games and we do some mini mic things with players where we just ask him a bunch of fun questions. And it's the same idea we said, Look, if we showed up the way that a lot of the media shows up, like some of the on camera TV hosts out there, for some of the news networks, if we're in a suit and tie, we'd look ridiculous asking these questions. We've got to be more laid back. We've got to show that we don't take ourselves too seriously, and that's how you get the best answers out of guys. So it's cool to see a lot of baseball starting the shift that way in the sense of baseball can be fun, people can be laid back, and this is what I feel like. The game itself has been going for for such a long time, and I feel like over the last couple of years we're starting to really have some movement. 00:44:14 Speaker 7: For that it's existed, it just hasn't been fully executed. It hasn't been brought out enough. It exists, and it's been brought out, but not enough. So I think that our sport is super interesting, and it also has the volume that most other sports don't have, where something will pop up almost every day from a game or from news or from both, and it lasts for a long time. We don't have a ton of downtime in the sport if you're counting spring training and then the action that goes on in the off season. Baseball does a really good job as an industry of stretching. 00:44:51 Speaker 5: Out the news. You know, one thing that I've heard in the past. 00:44:55 Speaker 7: About other sports is, oh, well, you know, you guys should have that total frenzy where for what twenty f forty eight hours everyone signs in the NBA and Baseball's answer is, yeah, we don't want it to drag too long. 00:45:05 Speaker 5: So I think there's that balance because. 00:45:06 Speaker 7: Like when Bryce Harper and Machado and some of those guys signed way late, I thought that was bad because then it's spilling into from training and taking away from that and starts to die down. It's almost like too much hype for too long. But at the same time, if everyone just signed on like November tenth, no one would give a crap until February whatever. So I do like how all of the news kind of spreads out for a while and you're right on being yourself when you're at games and you're talking to guys. I think that And also I mean, at least for us, allowing the guys to curse like it always happens where they're like, oh, I listened to the show and they're like. 00:45:42 Speaker 5: I think I can right. They're like, can I say I don't give a shit. 00:45:44 Speaker 7: I'm like, yeah, go ahead, They're like okay, you know, and and you feel like you can open up a little bit differently. So and it's yes, there's a component of it where you don't want it to just like a video conference call. So we definitely have have dressed it up a little bit so it feels big for the guys that are coming on, and now it's gotten pretty big, so they're cool with it. Plus we have a streaming deal with a service that puts it not only through their streaming platform and stadium, but also on TV, although it doesn't run live on the TV version because of the cursing, but then they dub it and they rerun it. 00:46:18 Speaker 1: Last question for me, Scott, was there an adjustment period for you? Did someone have to someone have to tell you to loosen up when you were doing it the first couple of times and they're like, hey, like actually, like remember this isn't TV. 00:46:30 Speaker 3: You could do whatever you want. 00:46:32 Speaker 5: The opposite. 00:46:33 Speaker 7: So there were producers that I worked with that reached out either to me or to some others that I was working with that are my producers now, And they said, Scott putting something, you know, putting on a front? 00:46:46 Speaker 5: Is is he trying too hard? Is he doing too much? 00:46:51 Speaker 7: And the answers from those that know me best where now That's how it always is. And I talked like that all the time behind the scenes, and I would try to bring out my personality. But you know what, when I look back, I couldn't do it the way I wanted to. I don't have regrets about anything, but I couldn't bring it out the way that I actually talk with everyone and when I get going, which I'm not the top ranter on the show because I want it to be focused around players, but sometimes I do have to just get after it when someone says something really dumb in my mind or kind of defend the media portion of the show because I'm the one on that side. 00:47:31 Speaker 5: I'll just give you one quick example. 00:47:32 Speaker 7: Josh Cater spoke to the media after the two one loss for the Padres against the Giants and really again didn't mean anything technically, and that was kind of the point of the argument was he was getting questions from reporters about like the whole not going more than three outs thing, which goes back to him having kind of beef. I mean, I could say with the Brewers, I don't know the whole stories, and I want to like act like, oh, Josh is my best friend and he told me everything. But there was definitely beef about salary arbitration and how it's like, well, if you don't care about me and you're actually going to ding me for being used for multiple innings. Then I want to be a three out guy and rack up saves and know my role and do my thing because I'm one of the best relief arms in the sport. 00:48:15 Speaker 5: So anyway, the reporters were asking about how you know. 00:48:18 Speaker 7: He could have come in to a moment where it was a left he left a situation in the eighth inning and then picked up three more outs in the ninth, And I think some of the players that I was just gone with, like AJ and Pratz obviously primarily you know, maybe poking the bear it's a bad question. I was like, no, it's not a bad question. I said, actually, the way it played out was perfect. That question could be asked because they were like they should ask it earlier in the season and the games mattered. But Hater's response was like something along the lines of are we playing for the playoffs right now? Because I think mathematically they still maybe a day or two left to be eliminated, but it's over. 00:48:52 Speaker 5: So I thought the answer was fine. I thought the whole way it played out was fine. 00:48:56 Speaker 7: So I just wanted to present the other side and say, hey, no, you want the media to ask that, and I want the real answer back from Josh being like, essentially, season's over. 00:49:05 Speaker 5: Now you're asking me about four uns. We're good. It's not the time. So just a little kind of. 00:49:12 Speaker 7: Inside a piece of what goes on on a daily basis when I will kind of raise my voice and say, oh, hold up, hold up a second, let me present to you what some others have seen on this topic. 00:49:24 Speaker 2: And last what I've got Scott is favorite player you've had on the show so far is who gives you the best answers? 00:49:30 Speaker 5: Ooh, there's like different versions of best answers. 00:49:34 Speaker 7: So I'll go back to Raddy just because I mean, he had injuries and warming up and down this year, and he'll be the first to tell you that. Lastly, the thirty hundred guy playing for the Milaukee Brewers or re Annie playoff scene contender, and I felt like nobody knew him and he's not on social media, but still he curses. He's one of the top trash talkers in the sport. He gives you real answer. There's almost so much so that he likes to kind of joke around a lot and be sarcastic kind of tell like designed lies just to get a rise out of people. So I would say he is up there, and that's also fresh off my mind. But then there's some of the superstars too, which I think is important. When we interview a superstar like a Mookie Bet or a Mike Trout, what makes me smile is that we'll look at each other afterward and be like, I I haven't been able to interview him like that before. I haven't heard him talk like that, write something along those lines. So I felt that with Trout when we were talking to him about oh Tani. I felt that with Mookie Bets when we were talking to him about leaving Boston, how he didn't want to go and he wasn't really feeling la like. All of those types of conversations with the big boys stand out too. And then you got the sneaky guys. So obviously I'm being super political not getting me one answer. I'll give you rowdy just I'd like to obviously try to pat myself from talking, but I can't sometimes. But Zach Gallan stood out too, because I like when guys will just say, hey, the Cardinals traded me, and I was kind of paraphrasing again, fisted about it and felt like because I didn't go to some random mini camp for a few days and it wasn't exactly the cardinal way, they might have just made me more available for trade. And I mean to use that as a chip on my shoulder. That's a great narrative. I'm all about that and I love that stuff. So those are a few that's said. 00:51:26 Speaker 5: Well. 00:51:27 Speaker 2: I would bet the Arizona Diamondbacks are sitting there saying I am glad Zach Gallon did not go to that mini camp. 00:51:31 Speaker 4: I'll say that much. So. 00:51:32 Speaker 2: Hell, yes, Scott, this has been so awesome. 00:51:38 Speaker 4: We've really enjoyed getting to talk with you, getting to learn a. 00:51:40 Speaker 2: Little bit more about vowel territory, and we certainly don't want you to miss your flight, so we'll let you get to that. But we hope we can do this again sometimes soon because this has been great. Yeah, absolutely, Lyle and TJ. I appreciate all the questions about FT. It's obviously something I left my previous job to do this. I believe in this. I've had a great time connecting with fans. 00:51:58 Speaker 7: You guys do a great job, and we can definitely kick it in the off season with some Mariners talk too when I'm not at an airport being disrupted by the beautiful PA system. 00:52:07 Speaker 5: But I will say good luck to the boys. 00:52:10 Speaker 7: It was a team that I thought would go very far and still has a chance to do so, even though the young pitching's make him a little nervous down the stretch. 00:52:18 Speaker 5: But we can certainly kick it on some ms. 00:52:20 Speaker 7: Because the guys on my show were giving me crap for a good chunk of the year, and then I got to kind of bite back at them the last several weeks. 00:52:27 Speaker 5: So finished strong getting the playoffs, and then we can talk about it in November. 00:52:31 Speaker 2: That sounds great, and there's a teaser for all the listeners. We'll circle back to this a few months down the road and talk some arrors with Scott. 00:52:37 Speaker 5: Thanks again, cheers, guys, see you. 00:52:42 Speaker 1: Good interview with Scott Braun. And before we continue, let's hear from Betterhelp. Is something interfering with your happiness or preventing you from achieving your goals, regardless if you have a clinical mental health issue like depression or anxiety, or you're just a human who lives in this world who's going through a hard time. Therapy can give you the tools to approach your life in a very different way. And that's why I'm excited to tell you about today's sponsor, better Help. Better Help's mission is to make therapy more affordable and more accessible, and this is an important mission because finding a therapist can be really hard, especially when you're limited to the options in your area. 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Him one of the leaders of getting that show out there and to the public and gives really gives the players a voice that they've never had before in the media world. 00:54:24 Speaker 2: And I can't stress it enough. As one of the questions we asked him was being seeing baseball continue to grow and their show doing that. It's absolutely doing that, and I think, like I said, over the last couple of years, that's happening and you're seeing it more with the new form media, with podcasts, with content creation, with their show, with what just Baseball as a whole network is doing what we're trying to do everybody out there. Jared carabas another example of being just fun baseball content, showing people that these players have personalities. Baseball is a fun game, it's exciting, there's reason to be invested, and they're doing a great job of that on that show. What they do with Foul Territory is they let players be themselves and they let those guys really shine and show people. Yeah, I'm a fun person to listen to. Not all the media interviews I do are cookie cutter. So if you haven't checked out foul territory. I would really encourage you to go do so, because it's really a cool thing and it's also pretty new. So it's just getting going. 00:55:22 Speaker 3: Here and before we wrap up, Lyle, are they gonna do it? 00:55:30 Speaker 2: I don't know, and I'm probably more on the more optimistic side than you. 00:55:34 Speaker 7: What. 00:55:34 Speaker 2: Okay, record prediction for the rest of the year is what And we'll count here on this Tuesday because this is when we're recording, So Tuesday through Sunday, final six games they're doing what? 00:55:45 Speaker 3: Two and four? 00:55:48 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say three and three. I'd love to say six and zero. I'd love to say they'd win six in a row or even five and one, but it's really really hard to do that right now, So I'll say three, three and three, you know what. You know what I think will happen as we start to wrap this up. I think of these next three games, between the two against Houston and the one against the Rangers, they will win two of those in some form or another. So in some form, they're gonna start to give everybody hope again, and they're gonna draw everybody back in and start believing again. But they're not quite gonna get over the hill and get into the playoffs. That's how I'm feeling. I really really hope I'm wrong. 00:56:28 Speaker 1: Me too, But as we sit here today, my confidence level is as low as it's ever been, and there's nothing they have shown here on the field in September that gives me belief they can get it done. 00:56:41 Speaker 2: So your confidence levels is zero, but you're saying two and four. Wouldn't you say zero and six? 00:56:47 Speaker 3: But two and four means you miss the playoffs, So that's correct. 00:56:51 Speaker 2: All right, that's fair, that's fair. Okay, let's hope TJ and I are both wrong. Let's enjoy the next couple of games, try to enjoy it at least, and then we'll be back for a Friday show to recap it all. So that'll just about wrap it up for this edition of the Marine Layer podcast. You guys know the drill. If you want to listen to the full form podcast, you can do so on Apple, Spotify, Google, and Amazon. If you do that, make sure to follow us to make sure to download our episodes, and please leave us that five star review. That really does wonders for us. The reviews and those downloads help us out a ton. Check us out on the video side. We're on YouTube. You want to go see Scott Broun in the airport or TJ and I just sitting and hanging out. 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