Episode 60: Mariners Still Alive Heading Into The Final Weekend, And Another Classless Act By The Houston Astros

00:00:00 Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number sixty of the Marine Layer Podcast. On today's pod, the Mariners are still alive, somehow, some way, against all odds, they continue to fight another day. We'll discuss that we have a Russell Wilson umpire of the week, and also we'll close out the show with Speak Your Mind. 00:00:20 Speaker 2: This show is brought to you by Pagotcha's Pub eighty five. Pagatcha's Pub eighty five in Kirkland, just east of four h five with some great parking. It's got the best pizza in town. It's your go to spot to go watch sporting events, grab some great drinks, hang out with your friends. If you're not going to the ballpark this weekend, head over to to Pagatcha's Pub eighty five and go watch a Mariner's game, Go hang out with your friends, go cheer them on. There's twenty two TVs in the place. And get there early too. You know why because they've got some great happy hour specials, especially during the week Monday through Friday two to six pm. 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Hey, I did a thumbs up too, Okay, go watch us on YouTube, hit like, comment, subscribe, Make sure to subscribe and turn the notification bells on. On social media, we're on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter and YouTube shorts. We're always active there. Go follow us at Marine Layer Pod. 00:01:56 Speaker 1: Let's get it rolling and we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Layer podcast, part of the Just Baseball podcast network. Recording late at night postgame on Thursday, September twenty eighth, sources tell me Lyle the Mariners, against all odds, against the advice of one TJ. Matthewson, stay alive for one more day. 00:02:31 Speaker 3: They're alive. They are not dead. 00:02:33 Speaker 2: They're still fighting. They keep fighting. This is why we did this show at this time tonight. And we plan this a couple weeks in advance. We said, hey, going into the last weekend, I know a lot of the times. For Wednesday shows, we'll record Monday or Tuesday. For a Friday show, we'll record Thursday afternoon. But we said, you know what, these games are gonna matter. They're gonna be important. Let's be timely and record right after the game Thursday. We'll stay up late to record edit. That's totally fine because it matters. And look what happened. It's a pretty good thing we did because all they did was it a walk off double down to their last strike to keep themselves alive. 00:03:08 Speaker 1: It would have been great content regardless because it either would have been stranding the bases loaded with nobody out in the ninth inning against a melted down a role as Chapman and Jonathan Hernandez or this, so you get the best of both worlds. You're welcome, and now we. 00:03:25 Speaker 2: Get to sit here on a more positive note. Again, they've still got their work more than cut out for them. A game back with three to go, trailing the Astros. It's not ideal, but they are certainly not dead. 00:03:37 Speaker 1: I have an official statement through my PR team, so from TJ. Matthewson. He's still not believing the end? 00:03:49 Speaker 2: Has it been your PR team tweeting all these tweets and writing all these messages all these years? Is that why you never spell anything right? It's your PR to blame them? I'll blame them. I'm actually a good speller, just the people higher aren't. They're not not very adept at typing. Maybe we've talked about that on here before. TJ's texts have spelling errors left and right, like I'm I. 00:04:10 Speaker 1: Might be the world's worst typer, and that's not a joke. Become friends with me, like, let's text a little bit and doesn't doesn't take long to figure out I'm essentially the equivalent of the Mariners in the ninth inning, with the bases loaded and nobody out down to run with the season on their line, I'm probably gonna screw up against a really shitty reliever, but when it matters most, with two strikes, I will dump one down the left field line, and I will spell something correctly. Let's go JP. Crawford put a fucking C on your chest for the twenty twenty four season. 00:04:42 Speaker 2: Hey, he did it with one strike, so even even more so, he didn't take it all the way down to the last straw. 00:04:47 Speaker 3: He did it on the one one count. 00:04:49 Speaker 1: We love that. What what a week? Though a lot has happened in the two days since we last discussed. It's funny because in our storylines, I was fully expecting to hop on here with a more somber note. I was ready, I was prepared. I had written Lyle, I mentioned to you next to the storylines, I said, it's over. That's what I wrote. I wrote, it's over, and I realized having to record this episode and like, well, technically it's not over. But Wednesday's game surely made it feel like it was over. Because, man, with the season seemingly on the line, the Houston Astros A team they had beaten all season long, come in and win handily again. 00:05:41 Speaker 2: Now imagine if they had one on Wednesday and then walked it off tonight. Now imagine how we'd be sitting here recording this podcast, because if that scenario had played out, their magic number would be two with three games to go entering this weekend. And I'll tell you what. If they had won that game Wednesday, the city would be buzzing right now. But instead people are half in, half out like we are. 00:06:03 Speaker 1: I was fully ready to go back to Wednesday's episode and clip the part where I said it's over their toast, it's done, the same statement, by the way, you go check our social channels at Marine Layer Pod. There was a little mini TJ rant that was posted there today from Wednesday's episode where I use the words it's over, they're done, they're toast, And I was ready to cut that come on this podcast, and just have like a button set up right here next to it, so every time like I said something, I'd just be like, oh, actually, lowd never mind, boom, it's over, just to constantly remind myself how wrong I was. But as of right now, I'm still right. So how about that we like that a little bit more. 00:06:50 Speaker 2: Usually we're both positive, Although I will say, if you have to pick one or the other, I think it's fair to say you're the more negative of. 00:06:57 Speaker 3: The two of us. Is that fair? 00:06:58 Speaker 1: Yes? 00:07:00 Speaker 2: And let's be clear, both of us have been pretty miserable and frustrated with the way this team's played in the last week, along with the rest of the fan base. But if you just have to pick between the two, I'd say that's fair. Look Bryce Miller on Wednesday, for the first three innings, he looked really promising, and we know he's fared well against the Astros this year. It felt like, Okay, he's gonna flush that ranger start. He can give them five innings of solid work. Even after that first run was allowed, you thought, all right, if he goes five and one or five and two, he keeps them in it, it's all you can ask for out of him. 00:07:32 Speaker 3: But then things kind of got out of hand, didn't they. 00:07:35 Speaker 1: Yeah, that do Bond home run. It felt like we say this after a win, felt like kind of the season almost ended on that swing. It just felt so crushing and good. Thing lyle after that home run, you turn around and you look at the Mariners lineup car and you're like that, that's it. That's a group I believe in. What a job. What a job Scott did putting together that Wednesday lineup, but a very similar one he put out there today, like very interesting again beat like Bryce really not good enough last the last two starts we highlighted he had to had to pitch at least decent in Can we say he pitched decent in either? Do we say four runs over four innings is decent? Like that's I would I really, I don't think I would say so with Bryce's stretch. But the lineup he turned around to help bail him out wasn't exactly great, very very interesting construction on Wednesday, Lyle, I mean, in an elimination game, what felt like Dylan Moore was batting fifth, your guy, But Dylan Moore batting fifth, Sam Haggerty was your DH and Jose Cabierro was your second baseman. 00:08:48 Speaker 2: So I have some numbers on this. Before I get to that, I do want to say one thing about all the lineup stuff, and I don't think anybody's been thrilled about it, even us. We are analytics nerds. We love saber metrics. We get the reason behind why front offices and managers make decisions like this, and even we've sat there and scratched our head about it. That being said, I am sorry, but it is not fair to pin all the blame for these lineups on Scott's Service. For the fans out there, they've been ripping service and they can't stand the lineups and it's service this service that I'm sorry, but that is not a fair accusation. And I'll tell you why, because Scott's Service and the front office have meetings about this stuff every day. They talk about lineup construction every day. Who they want to play every day. If there was such an issue with the lineups that were being thrown out there with left handers on the mount, they would not be penciled in by Scott's Service. If Jerry Depoto and Justin Holland are in the front office had this much of an issue with the platoon lineups, they wouldn't be happening. So this is an organizational decision. If you want to be mad, be mad, But to pin it all on Scott's Service is not fair. I just had to get that out. 00:09:56 Speaker 1: There, and like he said, I play the guy who are on my roster, and these are the guys who are on your roster. I think our collective biggest beef is that Jared Kilnick was in neither Yesterday's lineup on Wednesday or tonight's lineup, and he wasn't even picked to hit off the bench in the ninth inning. The two lefties pinch hitting, and neither of them were him, which is interesting because you feel like, if you're constructing a lineup of the nine best Mariners hitters, Jared's one of them, and he didn't appear in either lineup on the two most important games of the season. 00:10:32 Speaker 3: I don't get it. 00:10:33 Speaker 2: And he has had a decent year against lefties. He was certainly crushing lefties early in the year, but he's still been decent against lefties. 00:10:40 Speaker 3: And I'll tell you. 00:10:41 Speaker 2: What for the guys that are being thrown in the lineup with more Haggardy cabierro it hasn't been smooth sailing against South Paus the last month. Look at these numbers. Dylan Moore is my guy. Everybody who listens to this podcast knows that I love Dylan Moore, but I'm also reading objective numbers here in the last month. Since September, he's hitting one sixty seven with a thirty five WRC plus against left handed pitching. That's entering Thursday night. Jose Cabierro, the guy who they seem to always play against left handed pitching, to play at second base in those games. He is hitting one twenty five with a thirty two WRC plus in September, so that is nearly seventy percent below league average against lefties in the month of September. And Sam Haggerty ninety one WRC plus. He's hitting two fifty walk rate eleven percent against South Pause in the month of September. Now he's been the best of those three. Sample size for all of them is fairly small, but for being so adamant on playing those guys, it's not even like they're crushing South Pause right now. 00:11:45 Speaker 3: They're not. 00:11:46 Speaker 2: I would rather see Kelmick in there. I'd rather see Ford in there. I'd rather see Canzone in there. I guess Canzone wouldn't play in that scenario, would be Rojas. I'd rather see Rojas in there and just roll with it. I am all about analytics. You're all about analytics. This podcass is all about analytics. When it gets to this point in the season, there's got to be a little bit of feel up. These are our best bats, let's play them. 00:12:08 Speaker 1: What was worse about all of this is how quickly those guys were all yanked out of the game after the starter got taken out. I mean Cabierro and Haggerty got on Wednesday, got one at bad a Piece, right, I had that right, Yeah, one at bad a Piece and Demo got two. But as soon as the opportunity risen, I mean they were out with zero confidence with a right on right matchup. Now, we we always talk about platoons left on left to protect lefties against facing lefties. But your average right hand hitter, you would expect can can hold their weight against a right hander because eighty percent of arms, seventy percent of arms in baseball that you see are right eyes. So it just kind of strange. It just feels like the confidence wasn't high enough in those guys to leave them in the lineup, which brings back the question of why were they in the lineup in the first place. You can like your bench, sure, but if you feel like the guys who were putting out there on the lineup are on their best day, like a fringe starter on their average day, a probably a bench guy, and replacing those with the other guys we have on the bench, Like, how does that make your lineup better? 00:13:30 Speaker 2: I don't think it does. And I'll tell you what else it does. It burns your bench. We were on the phone yesterday talking about this, so let's just share our thoughts with the listeners. If that game had been close on Wednesday, then all of a sudden, you don't have Dylan Moore or Sam Haggerty or Jose cabiiro off the bench to pinch run. If that game was closed, you could have Mike Ford running the bases in the ninth inning. Now, I guess you could pinch run Canzone, who's faster than Ford, but he's not fast. You could pinch run Luis Enz. That'd be the last guy on the bench. Again, probably faster than Forward, he is certainly not a speedster. I feel like those guys are much better suited to do what they do best, which I know sometimes they have hit left these. A lot of their careers they've hit left these and let's acknowledge that, but lately they have not. So if that's the case, just let your best bats hit and if you're in a close game late, then you can get those other three in and you can pinch run them if you need a guy on the base pads. They didn't even have an opportunity to do that on Wednesday because they were all burned. 00:14:29 Speaker 1: And the Mariners like to be strategic too, but it seemed like that construction in that game plan is anti strategic because your most athletic, best base running lineup is your original lineup that you put out there, but then once it actually starts mattering, it's not. And that's when you want to be technical, and you want every minute detail to be as correct as possible and as in your favor as possible. And I don't think that that plan and that rotation of players was that. And in the end, they didn't score enough runs. They weren't good enough offensively as well as they didn't pitch well enough either, and the Mariners end up losing to the Astros on Wednesday. The other thing I want to note from that game, I don't want to rag on Julio too much. It's been a tough couple of weeks for him when they've really needed him the most. We entered this month thinking Julio had a legit shot, a legit shot to be American League MVP if he absolutely set the league on fire in September, and he hasn't. He struck out four times yesterday and left eight guys on. He homer tonight, big home run. But on Wednesday, in a crucial game they needed, he left eight guys on and had a golden sombrero and from your superstar like that can't happen, Like the superstar label means you can't do that in that kind of games. That's unfortunate for Julio, but that's what the rules say. 00:16:00 Speaker 2: Hasn't just been Julio two. Look at the last couple weeks, So this is entering Thursday, Julio in the last two weeks fifty six WRC plus. That's not what you need out of a superstar. You can't have it out of your superstar. Taoscar Hernandez in the last two weeks, fifty six WRC plus, that's not good enough. Cal in the last two weeks. Again, this is all entering Thursday, ninety five WRC plus. He picked it up a little bit from where it previously was when looking at these two weeks sample sizes a couple days ago, but still below league average, and then Gino ninety three WRC plus, so same thing. It's not atrocious, but you need more from You need much more than that from the four guys that you expect to provide the most force in your lineup. Like that's just not good enough as a collective unit. You wonder why this team's not hitting. There it is right in front of you. JP's been awesome. The walkoff hit tonight encapsulated all of that. He's been awesome in septem I remember, his whole year has been great. But the guys behind them aren't doing what they're supposed to be doing. 00:17:05 Speaker 1: And it encapsulates just the entire team not hitting this month a lot to compliment the fact the pitching is having their worst month. And now we sit here on a Thursday night saying, okay, for the Mariners to keep their season alive, they're going to have to win Brian wu start tomorrow. That's like, that's what it's gonna come down. Do. They are going to need to win Brian Wu's start tomorrow. They're expected to use an opener, which you and I both agree is probably Matt Brash. We hope it's Matt Brash. The one Inklin concern I have with the amount of platoon talk we've had here today and have has been had on the internet in this last week, is that Scott might want to throw a lefty out there to try and get more of a lefty slanted lineup, or sorry, a more right handed lineup in there for when WU comes in and help him out a little bit. The problem is the Texas Rangers like they have a deep team, but they stick to the same starting lineup most of the time. They're not really a platoon team. So I don't know if that's gonna work, and I'm I'm curious to see what Scott does tomorrow and what he does. I think you and I, though both agree, I think Brash for two innings to start tomorrow would be the best. 00:18:19 Speaker 2: The Rangers first three guys in the lineup tomorrow is almost definitely gonna be Marcus Semon, Corey Seger, Nate Lowe. Am I right, yep? So that bears the question of who is the opener. It should be Brash if it's up to us. Obviously, we're just two podcasters and fans. But if it was up to us, yeah, it'd be Matt Brash. If he has a good first inning, he could go too. Wu could go from the third to the sixth or seventh hopefully, and hopefully you get some length out of them, and then all of a sudden, if he could get through the seventh, then all of a sudden, you can go Topa in the eighth. 00:18:55 Speaker 3: You can go Munos in the night. That would be great, But we don't know if that's what they're really going to do or not. Now. 00:19:01 Speaker 2: It will probably not be Gabe Spier because he just threw two winnings tonight on Thursday. I doubt he's the opener in tomorrow's game. In fact, i'd be shocked. So that would probably leave Taylor Saucedo. If they're going to go with a lefty, that's not impossible. But I think it should be Matt Brash. 00:19:16 Speaker 1: I think so too. And it's it's less to keep the load off of Brian Wu, I think, and more of just to protect him from facing Marcus Simeon and Corey Seeger and Nate Lowe an extra time. I think that's pretty obvious. You let's have your best arm face their three best hitters the first time, and then the third time. In the fourth time, your bullpen will face them again. So essentially, in an ideal world, Wu might have to face them once. 00:19:50 Speaker 2: Is that an ideal world, though, because then that's not a ton of length out of him, and then you're asking your bullpen to do a lot again. 00:19:55 Speaker 3: I feel like. 00:19:56 Speaker 1: You're shutting everyone down, right, But I don't know faith in that. 00:20:00 Speaker 2: But if he's shutting everybody down Brian Wu on Friday, that would mean he would probably face them a second time. Because let's say Brash goes two innings and essentially faces the lineup once. The whole lineup about once. So Wu goes against Semi and seeger Low to start that outing, and then you would think he'd face them one more time because then you're essentially saying Wu goes what two innings? I would think he's gonna go more than that. 00:20:25 Speaker 1: No, maybe some bad math again Math we went to Asu. Math is not her definitely not her strength. Well, I don't I don't know if Brian Wu would make it to face them again if he's facing him in sixth the seventh Do you like do you think they would let him face him twice. 00:20:43 Speaker 3: Again. 00:20:43 Speaker 2: Yeah, because if again, if Brian Wu throws the third and fourth inning and then he goes out for the fifth, it would probably be time for Semion Seeger and load a hit again, maybe in the sixth inning. That would only be two winnings of work you get out of Brian Wu in that sense. 00:20:59 Speaker 1: I a lot. I think I was thinking they'll hit again in the late sixth or seventh if you're pitching well, is my point. 00:21:08 Speaker 2: Okay, I still think we may have to see how that plays out tomorrow. I still think he might face them a second time. He would not face them a third time. I think he may face them a second time if he is cruising and they feel like he has pitched well enough to warn it. 00:21:27 Speaker 4: This fall. Stream your favorites and discover more with Disney Plus, Hulu and ESPN Plus together. Watch the highly anticipated new season of Loki and see the ghost materialize in Haunted Mansion on Disney Plus. Catch more frights with the Boogeyman, an American horror story delegate, on Hulu and on ESPN Plus. Get into the action with college football and NFL. All of these and more streaming now get the Disney Bundle with plans starting at nine to ninety nine a month plans with ESPN Plus starting at fourteen ninety nine a month. Terms apply. See Disney Bundle dot com for details. 00:22:07 Speaker 1: Well, I'm trying to have some sort of expectation for Brian Woo tomorrow, but man, he has just given you nothing against the Rangers. 00:22:14 Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're right, like his Rangers outings have been struggles. Again, I kind of throw that debut out the window because it was some unique circumstances. Yeah, but yes, his last start against the Rangers was not good. It just gets back to this point though, of if you use Brash in the opener and then you use Wu for a couple innings and the rest of that lineup gets up again, you're already thin on your bullpen because I don't know if spier' is gonna be available here on Friday or not. He just threw two innings last night, so you're asking a lot of guys to go again. And if Brian Wu only got you through, say the fifth inning, then you need four innings of relief, and that may be Topa and Muno's to go more than three outs. Maybe you can use Campbell again, but I don't think they have any interest to go to Bizarreardo or Leone in these games. So that would either mean WU get stretched out or you need more innings from your big bullpen guys. 00:23:07 Speaker 1: Just gonna make it to the Castillo Kirby starts. That's what you need to do. Somehow bridge the gap there and then you hope Luis and George go seven innings each. I think that's where the pitching strategy rest because you know, ever, I think as it goes down the course of the season until they're eliminated, everyone's available every day for the most part, Like you gotta win these games so you have all off season arrest. That that's where it might be at. But I think it's really important the first five innings, like the two innings of Brash and the three innings of Wu, Like are the maritor is going to be in the game in the fifth inning tomorrow? That's the question I have because in these starts where it's not one of your top level guys going against the Rangers, the game's been over by the fourth inning. Can you be in the game in the fifth inning? Can your bats hit early? Can your pitchers not totally melt down by the fifth inn. Through the fifth thing. Let's say, through the fifth inning, can you be within two runs? Make it manageable. That's that's your chance. That is your chance tomorrow. 00:24:13 Speaker 2: They need it and they need these bats to get going. This offense kind of owes it's pitching staff a good night at the plate. They haven't had a lot of them as of late. And they're facing Nativaldy on Friday, who we said it on our last pod before they face the Rangers, will say it again. He is nowhere near at the top of his game. There's no reason these guys should not jump on him. And like you said, I want to point out what you said about can they get past the Brian Wustart, because all of a sudden, guys, if they get past the Brian Wustart and they can win on Friday, things get really interesting because then all of a sudden, you've got Luis and Kirby going Saturday and Sunday with the chance to take you to the Promised Land. There's nothing better you'd want to draw up than having those two going and on Friday down in Phoenix, when the Diamondbacks and Astros play. It's Zach Gallan, the cy young contender. He's gonna be on the mound on Friday, and the Diamondbacks have not clinched yet, so they've got something to play for. Gallen's gonna be all systems go on Friday. Now, the Cubs start about ninety minutes before the Diamondbacks here on Friday, and if the Cubs lose, that helps the Diamondbacks playoff chances too, so that is something to take into account. But ninety minutes before isn't enough time. So Gallon should make it through his whole start, and you would hope he gives the Diamondbacks some good innings on Friday, and that would help the Mariners out. So say the Diamondbacks win and the Mariners get a win tomorrow out of the Brian lou start. Tomorrow being today when you're listening to this Friday, Yeah, things get really interesting again. 00:25:41 Speaker 3: So let's see. 00:25:43 Speaker 2: And then Merrill Kelly goes Saturday for the Diamondbacks, who's been awesome this year, so it's possible. 00:25:47 Speaker 1: And then Bryce Jarvis on Sunday, and then if we look at the Rangers, it's John Gray projected on Saturday, Dane Dunning projected on Sunday, the Rangers could clinch by then and they might not throw. Those guys might just throw a bullpen day two days in a row. I don't know. They might shorten it up. It'd be curious to see how the Rangers handle the pitching once they have clinched. So we'll have to see. It's what a three days? We're in four while it's you know, but you know what I'm gonna do. You know I'm gonna do. I'm gonna be even keeled because I've already taken my side of this. There's been a line drawn in the sand between believers and non believers, and I'm firmly two feet entrenched in the non believer side. I can't take back my word. I've already dug my grave. If they make it, I'm wrong and I'm gonna own it. So we'll see. 00:26:44 Speaker 3: See. I can't do that. 00:26:46 Speaker 2: I've just got too much fandom in me to let myself do that. You say there's a line drawn, I think I'm right between it because I think my heart says root, my brain says, don't let yourself do this. And they're they're at a war, right now they're fighting, so I can't pick a side. I am going to keep rooting now. I know that the odds are really stacked against them. I know that, but it doesn't let me really stop rooting either. Even tonight, when I was watching the game here on Thursday, I was still rooting Again. I was not happy with the way the offense showed out, but I was still rooting. Yeah, it's just hard to draw a line. Which speaking of tonight, I know we're kind of wrapping up the baseball talk here and then we've got one other thing to talk about obviously, before we get to our ump of the week and speak your mind. Well, you give a shout out to Logan Gilbert by the way, who may or may not have made his last start. Dude had an unbelievable year. Again he has. He's taken another step in his development as a pitcher. He made all thirty two starts this year. He got to nearly two hundred innings. He was top five in baseball in walks per nine for the year. He wasn't given up free passes, he had a career low in XCRA and Oh, by the way, in his two full seasons in the show, because in twenty one and he didn't get up till mid May's two full seasons in the show, three win seasons. 00:28:05 Speaker 3: That is a dude. 00:28:06 Speaker 2: Logan Gilbert has been a dude for the Mariners and exactly the guy that they drafted back in twenty eighteen and hoped he would be. 00:28:12 Speaker 1: When you draft a picture in the first round, that's what you want, that's what you expect. Do you expect a workhorse in your rotation who will be productive and will eventually grow into a very good major league pitcher. And especially the jumps Logan made with his offseason, with his off speed this year, with his slider, with his splitter. So happy to see the evolution of Logan and really excited if we don't see him again this season in the playoffs, what he's going to bring to spring training next year, very very exciting. 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Hector Nis allegedly said something to Julio Rodriguez that was not cool and really really really strange behavior by hectorneerus if you missed the story somehow, Who's out there everywhere? On Wednesday? Narra struck out Julio Rodriguez in a big spot, walked right at him after he struck him out. Who he was walking towards the dugout, Hector Nis walked right at him, screaming at him and allegedly dropped a homophobic slur in Spanish that Julio heard and Aohenio Suarez, who was on deck, heard and both got irate. One of the strangest exchanges and actions by a player I think I have ever seen, first just. 00:30:31 Speaker 3: The way he walked at Julio. 00:30:33 Speaker 2: Just to start with that, the Astros dugouts on the third base side at Timoba Park, Mariners dugouts on the first base side. When Hector Naras struck out Julio, he starts walking toward the Mariner's dugout and toward Julio, screaming at him. You'll see pictures scream at hitters as they walk back to their own dugouts. Sometimes that happens. I have never seen that. I've never seen a guy just walk right up to a hitter after a strikeout and scream in his face. So that was a little odd and a little is putting out lightly, and then obviously the bench is cleared as a result, and you think to yourself, well, Julio's not rattled that easily, and it actually is not really rattled at all. He is one of the more even keel guys you could possibly find. But something sparked him, and then we kind of found out why. 00:31:17 Speaker 1: It went from you know, the the bench is clearing, we hear everything happen after the game. Adam Jude's the one who gets the report. He was talking to Suarez. I would assume right that's where he got the story about what was said. And now there's gonna be there's now an MLB investigation as of today undergoing on what Nara said and what will be constituted by it. But it's really telling that what happened today was it We found out like Nerris and Julio were friends there. They're both from the Dominican and they like knew each other, talked a lot, et cetera, et cetera. Julio came out today and said he's talking to Hector Nus ever again. Ever again. How many people in your life? Low, what would someone have to say to you that's your friend for you to never talk to them ever again in your life? 00:32:14 Speaker 3: It would have to be something pretty egregious, like like ten out of ten egregious. 00:32:20 Speaker 1: Yeah, but apparently what what Hector Narus said was that bad. And you know, credit to Gino. I mean he again, he's the one who goes on the record and says this right away, holding nears accountable, which I mean, could you imagine if someone said something like that in English and the TV cameras caught it, like it would be an enormous outcry, But it's in Spanish, and America's primarily English speaking country, with especially baseball audience which is majority English speaking, wouldn't catch that. But I'm just thinking, like who in their right Like who what would have to go through your mind is say that after you struck someone out And Julio is not looking at ners he's not He puts his head down in frustration and walks towards the dugout and Nerris comes at him and. 00:33:09 Speaker 3: Says that. 00:33:11 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. I mean, it's seriously ridiculous. Again, you're right, What does got have to go through your head to say something like that? And by the way, why in the world would these two guys make this up? Not only would it not make any sense in the world to put out there a story like this publicly, because if you put something out like if you put out a story like this publicly and then it turned out to me not true, you look ridiculous. So why in the world would these two guys lie about that? And oh, by the way, two guys who are for all we've seen, two of the best people, not just on the Mariners, but in the game of baseball. Two guys that are incredibly friendly, welcoming to everybody, inclusive everything. Why in the world would they lie about something like that. They wouldn't, so it lets meet Ave. It's probably true. And when Julio talked to the media here on Thursday, because he got out of the clubhouse pretty quick at least it was reported on Wednesday night, and didn't talk to the media after he had a session Thursday where he said what you just mentioned a minute ago, that he's never talking to Hector Nears ever again. And he also got asked was it true that he used some homophobic slur and Julio just said, I'm not commenting on that now again if it wasn't true, and Julio was gonna say, look, emotions flared, two teams fighting for a postseason spot. He just started yelling and let stuff get the best of them. 00:34:36 Speaker 3: I feel like. 00:34:36 Speaker 2: Julio would put that out there and say, look, just let's let bygones be bygone's heat of the moment. Hector Naris has been a friend of mine we'll get past it. He didn't say that. He didn't say that. So again, what reason do these guys have to put a story out there like this if it wasn't true. For everything I've taken away, Yeah, it's true, and. 00:34:55 Speaker 1: All the reporting from the Seattle Times points to that's what was said. Multiple people, I think they went on anonymously confirmed that that is what was said by Hector n Aris. This has to be the grudge he held from last year, right, it has to be. 00:35:09 Speaker 2: Which makes no sense because now for those who don't know what you're mentioning, Julio last year in Houston in June hit a home run off Hector Naris after Nearis by the way had been throwing it multiple guys through. Yeah, exactly, Gino included he was throwing at guys. 00:35:25 Speaker 3: And what does Julio do. 00:35:26 Speaker 2: He hits a home run, helps the Mariners seal a win in Houston. And I watched that video again over the last couple of days. Julio not one time in that video looks at Naris. He's not screaming at Nearis, he's not trash talking Nears. He's fired up rounding the bases. He gets to home plate goes back to the dugout, him and his teammates are fired up. There's nothing in that video that shows him screaming at Hector Nars. I guess Naris held a grudge for nearly a year and a half. 00:35:53 Speaker 1: We've seen grudges held longer. Hunter Saplin, Yeah. 00:35:57 Speaker 3: Former Mariner Hunter Strickland garrely but yeah. 00:36:01 Speaker 1: Yeah, well Hunter Strickland never never used a homophobic slur on somebody because he was holding a grudge. And this just adds to another another line on the laundry list of dog shit things that the Houston Astros have done over the last six seasons, seven seasons. It keeps growing. And by the way, Lyle nothing backed up or claims that the Astros are are the organization is like it. Don't want to say shitty, Yeah, shitty. They've acted shitty in a number of ways, and we probably put. 00:36:38 Speaker 2: Let's just put it like this. On the field, they are as good of an organization as it gets. On the field, they win, they produce good players, their development systems good. They've made good off season moves in trades and free agency baseball wise, they've been great. What you're referencing, and I agree with you is everything else shitty. 00:36:57 Speaker 1: You can go check out one of our latest tweets where any of many of the Astros faithful confirm how shitty, like, how shitty off the field the Astros are, and that's fans included. I mean, but I can't believe lyle that people voluntarily expose themselves like that of being a pile of shit voluntarily online to the public with. 00:37:25 Speaker 3: Your face on your profile. 00:37:27 Speaker 1: You just go out there and you're like, yeah, I'm a pile of shit voluntarily. 00:37:32 Speaker 3: I can't believe that. 00:37:34 Speaker 2: So this is what we laid out in this tweet for Astros fans after it got reported that there was allegedly a homophobic slur used at Julio by Hector Naris. Again, we didn't tweet this out after Oh, Hector Naris was fired up after a strikeout. As two people who loved just celebrating your victories in baseball, we would say, look, we might not like the Astros. If it had been a situation where it was nothing but celebrating getting a strikeout, we might not like him. We wouldn't be tweeting about it. Otherwise, Look, you celebrate when you win, we get it. But after that was reported. We tweeted out, Oh, here's some things the Astros have done in the last six years. There was the Juli Guriel thing in the World Series where he made some racial remarks toward you, Darvish. There was Brandon Taubman, who was their former assistant GM in part of their front office, who made some ridiculous comments regarding Roberto Ozuna, who they used to have on the team a few years ago, and he ended up losing his job over it. There's the cheating scandal, of course. There's the fact that, oh, yeah, we haven't even talked about this. Remember when Dusty Baker said he's tired of his guys getting hit when Muno's hit, Chas McCormick the other night, so Mariner's Twitter and just people look this up. Since twenty twenty one, the Astros had hit seventeen Mariners batter or the Mariners had hit seventeen Astros batters. Yeah, let's do that again. Astros had hit seventeen Mariners batters since twenty twenty one. Sorry, I did it wrong again, Okay, rewind, rewind, don't listen to me, people, Okay, three, two one, here we go. Now listen the Mariners have hit seventeen Astros since twenty twenty one. The Mariner's pictures have hit seventeen Astros. The Astros pictures have hit thirty three Mariners in three years thirty three. So we put that on the list that they've hit thirty three Mariners batters in three years. And then now we put this Hectorannarius thing. We said, what a franchise that is? That is quite the laundry list of things you've done. And what are some of the responses we get tj Because I'll tell you what, if there were accusations of somebody on the Mariners using words like this, I don't think we'd be sitting there saying, oh, it's fine, he didn't do anything, let's defend him. 00:39:40 Speaker 3: No, we'd be like, you can't say stuff like that, that's not okay. 00:39:45 Speaker 1: We wouldn't be saying they need to toughen up. It happens all the time in baseball. Oh, these that's the general consensus reply we got. Julio needs to toughen up. 00:39:57 Speaker 3: That was one. 00:39:58 Speaker 2: There's the classic Astro fans reply of oh, marendis fans crying being soft again? No, we're not talking about the loss we're talking about something that was totally out of line, that was said allegedly, and there was a ton of replies of this is the most ridiculous one. By the way, Well I've been lip reading and here's what he actually said. It was taken out of context. It's like, yeah, let's take the word of Astro's Twitter. Who's lip reading and saying, oh, I speak a little bit of Spanish, here's what he said. He didn't actually say this stuff. Yeah, over over two people who were right next to it and hurt it. Yeah, that's that's credible. 00:40:39 Speaker 3: Sure. 00:40:41 Speaker 1: Oh I wish you could spend less time online, man, I mean we really brought out the bottom of the barrel, like we tweeted that. I'm like, okay, might do, Like it might do fine. And I wake up this morning and I'm just eating breakfast and I'm scrolling. I'm like, oh my god, see these people again voluntarily telling themselves for how shitty of a person they are, Like it's incredible, just going to the. 00:41:04 Speaker 2: Edge of the world to defend Hector and Aris and like like essentially knowing this is possibly what he said and saying I stand with Hector and us, Like what are these people doing. 00:41:15 Speaker 1: Tells you a lot about about humanity and realize, while there are a lot of shitty people in this world, and I'm glad they just telling themselves so we know not to deal with them. 00:41:25 Speaker 3: And I guess a lot of them are in the city of Houston. Cheese. 00:41:29 Speaker 1: Hmmm, whoo, Man a week while what a week? 00:41:33 Speaker 2: Yeah, We've had a lot to get off on our chest on this podcast. And I know it's supposed to be somewhat of a positive podcast that the Mariners are still in it, which is I think what we did at the start of this. But man, yeah, that this Hectoranara stuff really rubbed me the wrong way. And no, it's not because the Mariner's lost. Yes, we can be frustrated about the loss. That's not what has people up in arms, Like again, it's what he allegedly said, which is totally out of line. 00:41:57 Speaker 1: What is even a suspension for that? Is that a five game suspension or is that like we have no tolerance for this, like fifteen? 00:42:06 Speaker 2: It's probably five. So when Yuli did that thing in the World Series with you, Darvish, he got suspended five games to start the next year. And honestly, if Narris does get suspended, it's probably not till next year. I doubt they're going to keep him out of postseason games. That's what Major League Baseball essentially said with Juli Gurriel two is we're not going to suspend them and keep him out of a World Series game. They suspended him five games the next year. That's ultimately what they decided on. We are not Major League Baseball, so we don't get to hand out the punishments. And if it's nears and something gets proven that what he said was true, I would guess you'd see something like a five to seven game suspension next year to start twenty twenty four. 00:42:47 Speaker 1: In conclusion, I can't say I'm shocked that happened in that organization. I just can't. Too much of a trap of a rap list, can't can't say okay, before we get to our Russell Wilson umpire the Week shout out to Simply Seattle our friends over at Simply Seattle. If you want to get some cool Mariner's gear, you can use our code Marine fifteen for fifteen percent off of your order. They just after this JP walk Off introduced a new shirt spelled cap on it with JP in front of it. They're obviously referencing Captain, but they're pretty sick shirts. You can go grab them over at simply Sattle dot com. Use our code Marine fifteen. You can get all your best Mariners, Seahawks, Huskies. They dropped some new Sonics gear today as well. I saw it was pretty cool stuff. So if you want to get all of your best Pacific Northwest gear, go to simply Seattle and use our code Marine fifteen for fifteen percent off your order. Okay, our Russell Wilson Umpire of the Week. Until this evening, we had a different candidate penciled in to this spot. However, the king this award couldn't stand to be left off the throne in the final week of the regular season. Lyle take it away. 00:44:09 Speaker 3: It is so fitting. 00:44:10 Speaker 2: Angel Hernandez, come on down again, buddy, despite not umping for two thirds of the season, you make yet another trip around the sun on this list and are back on the Russell Wilson Umpire of the Week stand to take home the award. So in this Thursday Phillies game, Bryce Harper allegedly checked his swing. They appeal down to third base. Angel Hernandez said he went around. They then go to the replay and show not only was it not close, whatever the next step beyond not closees that's what it was. In no world did Bryce Harper check his swing yet Angel Hernandez said he did. Bryce Harper was pissed off for every good reason, went out to the third base side, over to third base screamed at Angel Hernandez. Of course, he was kicked out of the game for this. Angel threw him out. Bryce Harper, after getting his words in, goes back to the dug out by the way. On his way back, he chucked his helmet into the stands and a young fan got it. That was pretty cool that he's just screaming, firing up the Phillies fans and then he chucks his helmet into the stands and some fan caught it. Then after the game, this is my favorite part. Bryce Harper, man of the people. He talked about that ejection and he said, there is always going on, something going on with Angel. He is always in the news. He is always known for making calls like this. And the quote that got me is Bryce Harper said, I am going to get fined again for being right talk about a banger of a line, Bryce Harper, Yes you are. You're gonna get fined again for being right, and yet Major League Baseball will do nothing about it. Credit to you, love the line, Man of the People, and Angel Hernandez. You continue to be just an absolute shit stained to the game of baseball. 00:45:59 Speaker 1: Wow wow, wow wow wow. Shout out to you. Bryce Harbor, so in conclusion, struck out on a pitch he shouldn't have struck out on, got ejected in a game he shouldn't have been ejected in, and then held the man accountable after the game, Man of the People, let's go Bryce Harbor. 00:46:22 Speaker 2: Oh, maybe you didn't hear the quote, Maybe you didn't have time to see the quote or whatever. So, yeah, that was a quote. 00:46:27 Speaker 3: Did you see it? 00:46:28 Speaker 1: No, Yeah I didn't. 00:46:30 Speaker 2: That was his quote after the game. He said, I'm gonna get fined again for being right. Yes you are, and you continue to be right Bryce. 00:46:39 Speaker 1: M. But here's Angel herdand is gonna get suit up for another season of being on the Russell Wilson Umpire of the Year Award next year, despite the fact he is total and utter dog shit at his job. Congratulations Angel, What a way to conclude this regular season. 00:46:59 Speaker 3: Maybe to you. Yeah, maybe in the off season if we have the time. Hopefully we do. 00:47:03 Speaker 2: We've talked about how we're going to have to go back and tally these up to give people an update on how many times each person's won the award and give the yearly award out. If we can have time and find some time here in the off season to tally it all up and give people an off season update on it, we will. We can give out a little off season Marine Layer Pot award if we can tally it all up for our ump of the week, because that would be really fun. And I'll tell you what, in a full season of work next year for Angel Hernandez, my money's on him to win it. I would say this qualifies as not seeing over the middle. I know usually we talk about not seeing over the middle with calls, but when that is blatantly right in front of you and you miss a call that badly, that would qualify and you are insufferable as usual, So you would check both of those boxes. Angel just absolute banger of a way to go out for the regular season with this award? 00:47:50 Speaker 1: Can we add a fourth criteria that you also don't play any defense? So no allowing Bryce Harper to go the whole length to run up and scream at you and just cowering. 00:48:05 Speaker 2: Russell's defense isn't exactly playing defense these days, that's for sure. 00:48:09 Speaker 1: Could you call it a defense? 00:48:12 Speaker 3: Maybe not? 00:48:12 Speaker 2: Well, they were supposed to be one of the best defenses in football like they were last year, but no, they ain't looking like that. 00:48:19 Speaker 1: No regardless, no defense from Angel Hernandez. Congratulations final regular season Russell Wilson umpire of the Week to the one the only Okay, let's get to speak your mind. 00:48:32 Speaker 3: Speak your mind, spot. 00:48:37 Speaker 4: That would be unwise. 00:48:39 Speaker 1: What is necessary is never unwise. All right lyle, what's on your mind this week? 00:48:47 Speaker 2: So again, I know this is really supposed to be a more upbeat podcast because the Mariners are still in it. And again, I think the first few minutes of this one, tennish fifteen minutes were and we highlighted how they're still in this thing. And then there's been a lot of negativity in this one. Well I'm sorry, but negativity's taking its circle here once again, because what is my speak to your mind? 00:49:09 Speaker 1: This week? 00:49:11 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift is now destroying NFL Sundays, destroying them. 00:49:14 Speaker 1: Hey do you see the report She's gonna be at the Chiefs Jets game. 00:49:19 Speaker 3: How could you have possibly missed it? Dog? 00:49:22 Speaker 2: I mean, how could you possibly miss She's gonna be at yet another Kansas City Chiefs game to watch Travis Kelcey. After all they did on that broadcast the other day in the Chiefs Bears game was essentially talking about Taylor Swift, and to be fair, maybe there wasn't much else to talk about because it was an absolute one sided affair where the Chiefs just manhandled the Bears. 00:49:44 Speaker 1: But see my dynasty fantasy quarterback. But that's a side note. 00:49:50 Speaker 2: The problem is, like the biggest problem is like now Swift, these are invading the NFL, and now it's like totally intertwining. And I here, here was my entire Twitter timeline this weekend. It was Sa Mariner stuff, but honestly, above everything else, it was Taylor Swift and a bunch of Kevin James pictures. 00:50:11 Speaker 1: Oh man, and then the thing because of Taylor Swift on Monday when everyone got back into their media cycle. I mean, holy shit, how much NFL media was just talking about Taylor Swift on on Monday. That was that was something on top of that are we going to get a breaking every week on which games she's attending are wherever the chiefs are probably Have you also seen the thing where the new TikTok trend where girlfriends of guys who are big NFL fans are telling them that Taylor Swift made Travis Kelcey. 00:50:52 Speaker 3: Incredible. 00:50:53 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have seen the trend and I'm going to put something on the line here And I'm not the first person to to state this. Are are are our buddy big cat? Not that we actually know him, but pardon my take. A podcast which we love was talking about this this past week and he said, look, Travis Kelcey is better at his job than Taylor Swift is at hers. 00:51:19 Speaker 1: And I agree with that. 00:51:20 Speaker 2: Travis Kelcey is probably the second best tight end to ever play this game, behind Gronk. I don't think Taylor Swift is the second best music artist. 00:51:27 Speaker 3: To ever live. 00:51:28 Speaker 2: So what are what of the people going on about with Taylor? Taylor Swift is the only reason Travis Kelsey's famous. Again, Like, you don't have to be a sports fan. I know I'm a sports nut and basically that's what I live and breathe and not a whole lot. Else you don't have to be a sports fan, but like, because now there's a whole trend going on where Swift these are, like, so, what's a down in football? 00:51:49 Speaker 3: Again? You don't have to be a sports fan, but like you don't know that? 00:51:53 Speaker 1: No, apparently not, there's a there were this season. There are gonna be a lot of first time NFL watchers because of this. Fully because of this. This also inserted a worst case scenario into my head. What if Taylor Swift ever eventually decides to perform at halftime of the Super Bowl? Could you imagine the ticket prices? Could you imagine the coverage and all of that. 00:52:24 Speaker 3: I mean, we're not going to a super Bowl anyway. 00:52:27 Speaker 1: No we're not, but it would be a how do I put it? An interesting interesting crowd for the biggest game of the year, the most watched American sporting event every year. 00:52:40 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were saying, too on pardon my take this week again? Another thing I agree with. There's all these swifties out there that don't like the relationship. Is there anybody that they would enjoy her or enjoy seeing her in a relationship with? Like, it's faby o good enough for Taylor Swift in their minds, I don't even know. I think again, this is what there's on. Pardon my take, and honestly, so credit to them for talking about this, I second all of it. I think in their minds they actually don't want Taylor Swift to be in a relationship because they want to like relate to her and all the music she makes. Where when she's just like ripping through the mud her past relationships, all her fans can be like, oh yeah, like I totally get that. Where now if she's in a relationship she's actually fine with, then they're like, well, now we don't get more music of her just like ripping past relationships. 00:53:31 Speaker 4: But in. 00:53:33 Speaker 1: I don't know, February, I think a k new album could come out. Do you think they make it? Do they make it through the NFL season one? No? 00:53:43 Speaker 3: And two? 00:53:43 Speaker 2: Honestly, what if the two of them have some marketing managers who just orchestrated a whole deal under the table where Taylor said, Hey, Travis, let's like get in the public eye for a couple of weeks. I'm actually then gonna end things, make make a new album where I'm talking about you and just rip you on my new album. But it's okay, you're gonna get some of the profits off it, and I'm letting you know in advance that I'm gonna do this, and Travis's like, oh, that's fine. We can put on a stunt for this and I'll I'll just wear it. Because Travis Kelsey is like as confident a guy as anybody. He's probably if that were to happen, he'd probably be like, yeah, whatever, let. 00:54:16 Speaker 1: Me be devil's advocate for a second, and let's look at the positive side of this. This takes all the attention away from Brittany and Patrick, Brittany and Jackson Mahomes. 00:54:27 Speaker 3: Oh it's a dream. It's a dream. 00:54:30 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. 00:54:32 Speaker 1: Oh this is like this is still one of the happiest things in my life that finally I don't have to see these bucks in the spotlight ever. Like Patrick Mahomes is going to be the greatest quarterback of all time and because of that, his wife and his brother are writing that to all of this fame, you're nobody, Okay. 00:54:56 Speaker 3: I get it, stop laughing now. 00:54:58 Speaker 2: Well one that you said that in two that I'm thinking about this, did you see that picture that somebody tweeted out this weekend saying like, here's Brittany Mahomes and Taylor Swift and it's a picture of Tanya Harding and Nancy Carrigan. 00:55:10 Speaker 1: Yeah oh man again, Yeah, what did they say to it? What do you think Brittany and uh and Taylor say to each other as they pass each other at in the sweet level? I think they say anything to each other. No, I just like that dead stare forward. 00:55:26 Speaker 2: I imagine it's some spin off of that viral TikTok that was going on last winter of Ben Stiller and Owen Wilson walking by each other where it's like, excuse me, Bra, and the other one says, you're excused, and I'm not your Bra. 00:55:42 Speaker 3: That's what That's what I. 00:55:43 Speaker 2: Think of when when Taylor Swift and Brittany Mahomes past each other, it's something along those lines. 00:55:48 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:55:48 Speaker 2: I mean, this is probably not what our Mariner listeners thought they were gonna hear this week, but yeah, I mean this is what speak your minds for, right, we get things off our chest. Look like you do you everybody's allowed to live their own life. Teacher and I are not the biggest swifties in the world. So here we are talking about it because yeah, we just like to watch football on Sundays sometimes and like not need to hear about Taylor Swift, but here we are. 00:56:12 Speaker 1: The unfortunate thing of this all, though, is that we're doing Taylor Swift a favor by spending ten minutes talking about her on this podcast. 00:56:23 Speaker 2: Let's be abundantly clear, she lives rent free in my head. Her and her fans absolutely live rent free in both of our heads because like we were, yeah we're sitting here talking about it. We're saying, like we can't stand listening to this stuff and seeing this stuff. So yes, they're living rent free. So she's doing her job. Good, good job, Taylor, Like you're you're you're occupying space in both of our heads. 00:56:44 Speaker 3: But we still are saying what we're saying. 00:56:48 Speaker 1: My speak your mind. This week a little bit shorter and on a more positive note, vacation in two weeks. Ooh, there we go, looking forward to that New York City two and a half weeks. Less than two and a half weeks. We would imagine the Mariners will not be playing then, So we're wrong. Yeah, let's hope we're wrong. Might be a little bit more scrambling if that's the case, but if it's not, five days of great food, great company, and a really fun place to go. Visit very very much looking forward to this. We've had this trip planned for four months now, and it's really nice when it's right here on the doorstep staring down at So that's what's on my mind looking forward to it. 00:57:33 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you're ending this podcast on a positive note, and that's how people can spend this. Hey, they started positive, they ended positive. 00:57:39 Speaker 3: Here we are. 00:57:40 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it too, very much. So, I mean, both our families are from New York. I think we're both going to see some family before all of us friends meet up. It's a bunch of our friends from ask you that are going and then we're gonna hang out in New York City and be in New York City for the course of about five days as our group of friends and yeah, do a bunch of fun stuff. I think we're really looking forward to it. We really love New York City. I think we both enjoy almost everything that that city has to bring. And that's where we're going. I think falls a pretty good time to go and yeah, we're looking I mean, we're definitely looking forward to it. 00:58:14 Speaker 3: I know your food list just keeps growing, and. 00:58:16 Speaker 1: We've talked to it. 00:58:17 Speaker 2: Does I was gonna say, we've talked about this trip on the podcast here before, and now it's a little bit closer and we're bringing it up again. And that list of food I don't know how we're going to get to everything, but we're going to hit some of them. 00:58:27 Speaker 1: And I know you're really looking forward Loile to going back to Dunkin Donuts. We've taken many quality trips to Dunkin Donuts together, and we finally get to go back. It's the first Monday when I'm there waking up and drink my coffee. It's the first place I'm going. We're going Dunkin Donuts and worth thriving. It's so bs. There's no fucking Dunkin Donuts in the Pacific Northwest. You got to go to California for the nearest Dunkin Donuts, and I think that's a travesty. But two and a half weeks I will have Dunkin Donuts. 00:58:58 Speaker 2: Well I'm not buying anything from loser Starbucks, that's for sure. 00:59:03 Speaker 1: Will you drink coffee if you buy it from dunkan TVD. 00:59:07 Speaker 3: I'm just I don't know. I'm not a coffee drinker. 00:59:08 Speaker 2: I don't feel like I needed I feel like, if I really need some energy in the morning, I just I'd rather drink a five hour energy. It doesn't stain your teeth, it's a lot smaller, it's a lot easier to intake my teeth. Also, let me and let me be abundantly clear, I don't almost ever drink five hour five hour energies. I just don't rely on caffeine, period. I'm not a caffeine drinker. In certain scenarios, like when we're on trips and we're running around doing all this stuff and probably not getting a whole lot of sleep, then sometimes I'll do something like drink a five hour energy, but I certainly prefer that over coffee or energy drinks or things like that. Maybe I'll get some food from Dunkin Donuts. I thought I was gonna say if I was gonna get something like a bagel or even a donut. I feel like there's a lot better places in New York to go get bagels than Dunkin Donuts. 00:59:54 Speaker 1: Yeah, significantly, And there's some on the list too well. 00:59:56 Speaker 2: And I was gonna say, we went to some great bagel places the last time we were in the York, so yeah, and nothing against Dunkndnuts. It's a perfectly fine place to get food and coffee. But I think there's place out Donuts. 01:00:07 Speaker 1: It's fine. 01:00:08 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up. 01:00:09 Speaker 1: No personal feelings, so you can hold it againstugn Donuts, It's fine. 01:00:12 Speaker 2: No, I'm just I'm indifferent about it. I certainly prevert over Starbucks, let's make that clear. But I think I might get my bagels at a more authentic New York place. You're in New York City, you might as well get real New York bagels. 01:00:23 Speaker 1: Then we'll have plenty of options. 01:00:25 Speaker 2: Yeah, and for a bunch of other great food too. So that's a nice way to wrap this podcast up, as we are very much looking forward to our trip. And you know what, if the Mariners are still playing, we'll tell you this. We will bring our mics, we will do a podcast. We will make it work. So, despite being on a trip, if the Mariners are still in by then, and let's hope they are, we will still be doing content. We can promise you that if they're not, we're still going to set up a show for when we're in New York. We'll probably pre record it before we go on the trip. I'm sure we'll find a guest to have on and then have that episode release on a normal Wednesday. If we go back to off seat and Wednesday one a week shows where we still talk Mariners in baseball. But yeah, so that's our plan, and just one more programming note before we officially wrap it up that if the Mariners are in the playoffs, like we talked about, we will do a postgame show after every playoff game. If they're not in the playoffs, we will go back to one a week episodes beginning Wednesday, or we'll have an episode Wednesday and then just be one a week moving on forward through the offseason until twenty twenty four starts. So that's just your programming, no programming, No, but yeah, I think. 01:01:31 Speaker 3: We covered a lot. 01:01:32 Speaker 2: Let's hope the Mariners get it done this weekend. Odds are against them, but they're not out of it yet and they can do this, get through the Friday, start the Friday game with a win, and you just never know. So that'll just about wrap up this edition of the Marine Layer podcast you guys know the drill. If you want to listen to the full form podcast, you can do so on Apple, Spotify, Google and Amazon. Follow us there, download our episodes, leave us a five star review. 01:01:59 Speaker 3: The reviews the. 01:02:00 Speaker 2: Downloads again, they really really do help us out a bunch, So just take a couple extra seconds and do that. Watch us on YouTube, have a video side to the podcast. 01:02:08 Speaker 3: There you go. 01:02:09 Speaker 2: Follow No, well yes, follow us on YouTube, but like, comment, subscribe and turn the notification bells on over on YouTube, and then follow us on social media Instagram, TikTok, Twitter and YouTube shorts. We're always active there at Marine Layer Pod. That's TJ. 01:02:25 Speaker 3: I'm Lyle. 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