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00:00 --> 00:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to episode number 403 of the Marine Lair podcast.
00:03 --> 00:06 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a mailbag episode, so we'll open it up and answer your best.
00:06 --> 00:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see your questions.
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00:57 --> 01:10 [SPEAKER_00]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just baseball podcast network recording here on Thursday evening May 14th before we get into the episode just a reminder to everybody if you're going to be at the Padre series this weekend.
01:11 --> 01:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Low and I are doing our next corona and the whole collaborative watch party and live event this Sunday during and after the Sunday night baseball game with the San Diego Padres.
01:21 --> 01:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I will be at the hall on Sunday at about 345 watch the game with you guys.
01:26 --> 01:32 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have a bunch of awesome Hall and Corona prizes to give out if you come and you hang out with us.
01:32 --> 01:44 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to do anything You just show up and you get giveaways for coming to hang out with us and then we'll be taping the podcast up stairs at Oxford in a whole afterwards Just a reminder of this last episode that comes out before this event.
01:44 --> 01:47 [SPEAKER_00]: So make sure to mark it on your calendar
01:47 --> 01:52 [SPEAKER_00]: During the game and after the game, this Sunday on May the 17th, we hope to see it there.
01:52 --> 02:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and, and I would say when we record that podcast upstairs, there's a bunch of room for you guys to sit and watch and hang out while we do it.
02:00 --> 02:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So come on up after the game and hang out while we record and we'll hang out with you guys before and after that too.
02:05 --> 02:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Something tells me there's two reasons you promoted that right at the start.
02:08 --> 02:10 [SPEAKER_01]: One because it's going to be an awesome event, we can't wait to see people there.
02:11 --> 02:14 [SPEAKER_01]: And two, you're trying to delay
02:14 --> 02:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say this is the most depressing 4 and 3 road trip I've ever seen.
02:18 --> 02:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's pretty bad.
02:22 --> 02:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And the big dumpper is the overarching reason why.
02:27 --> 02:32 [SPEAKER_01]: But to be honest, the Sunday game they played in Chicago and the one game they lost in Houston were awful.
02:32 --> 02:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Like those left a terrible taste in my mouth, both of them.
02:36 --> 02:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Really bad.
02:36 --> 02:40 [SPEAKER_00]: And there were things that were popping up all over the place on this road trip.
02:40 --> 02:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Where it was, you know, the inconsistent offense in Chicago.
02:43 --> 02:45 [SPEAKER_00]: There were still some poor pitching decisions.
02:45 --> 02:48 [SPEAKER_00]: You could really see how thin the bullpen was.
02:48 --> 02:56 [SPEAKER_00]: The Wednesday loss to the Astros was bad for a number of reasons.
02:57 --> 03:00 [SPEAKER_00]: or closer to nothing than they are with him.
03:01 --> 03:09 [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to think of the identity of the Seattle Mariners, this current iteration of the Seattle Mariners, if Carol is not on the team.
03:09 --> 03:20 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not even so much that he got hurt while, it's that the injury might now be worse because he and the team decided not to rest him when he was hurt before.
03:21 --> 03:26 [SPEAKER_00]: They rested him, but clearly not for long enough, and now the injury could be much much much worse.
03:27 --> 03:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's what we know.
03:28 --> 03:29 [SPEAKER_00]: It's an oblique.
03:29 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_00]: oblique injuries can last for a really, really, really long time, especially when you play the most physically demanding position on the field and you're a switchheader.
03:37 --> 03:40 [SPEAKER_00]: It's your oblique, has to go multiple different ways.
03:41 --> 03:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Seems like a problem.
03:43 --> 03:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Mitch Hanager back in 2017 missed like three and a half months with an oblique injury.
03:48 --> 04:04 [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, for anybody that might reference Sam Darnold's oblique injury during the playoffs for the C-Hawks, he had to play once a week, get through three additional games in the postseason, with the likely shot up with Tordal or Payne Killers before each of those games, and then after those three games, he was just able to rest.
04:05 --> 04:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Cowrowly can't do that, he's not only playing every day, but he's switch hitting and catching every day.
04:11 --> 04:13 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, pretty sure Sim Darnell got the skip practice.
04:15 --> 04:16 [SPEAKER_01]: He was not doing a lot of practicing.
04:16 --> 04:17 [SPEAKER_01]: No, not by the end.
04:18 --> 04:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Calvating it to skip anything, really?
04:21 --> 04:21 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
04:22 --> 04:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, guys.
04:23 --> 04:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just be blunt.
04:25 --> 04:28 [SPEAKER_01]: If Cal Raleigh's out for a long period of time, that's a real problem.
04:29 --> 04:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Because let's just stay at point blank.
04:32 --> 04:34 [SPEAKER_01]: If the Mariners don't have Cal Raleigh, they're not winning the World Series.
04:35 --> 04:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry if that's front.
04:37 --> 04:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry if that's forward facing and very blunt.
04:40 --> 04:40 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's the truth.
04:41 --> 04:41 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have Cal Raleigh.
04:41 --> 04:42 [SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to win.
04:43 --> 04:44 [SPEAKER_01]: You might make the playoffs.
04:44 --> 04:45 [SPEAKER_01]: You might get into the wildcard team.
04:46 --> 04:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe in the AL West without bad at it is this year.
04:48 --> 04:49 [SPEAKER_01]: You'd still win the division.
04:50 --> 04:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Forget about the World Series.
04:52 --> 04:54 [SPEAKER_00]: We're just kind of waiting for this offense to be complete.
04:55 --> 04:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And the last thing that was going to be complete was Cal Raleigh being Cal Raleigh.
04:59 --> 05:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Cal Raleigh might not be Cal Raleigh at all this season now.
05:03 --> 05:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Remember a Luke Rayleigh sucked last year?
05:05 --> 05:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Can do anything?
05:07 --> 05:08 [SPEAKER_01]: That was an oblique.
05:08 --> 05:09 [SPEAKER_00]: That was an oblique.
05:09 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_00]: And the oblique led to a couple of different injuries because as we have learned in our partnership, partnership with Lake Washington Physical Therapy, when you're hurt, you try to make up for it in other muscle areas that can end up hurting you even more.
05:25 --> 05:37 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like if you have an arm issue and you're putting more torque now on your shoulder and you end up hurting your shoulder after your elbows already hurt.
05:38 --> 05:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I would call it a win if you get back to a just a good version of CalRollie, not even a great version of CalRollie, sometime later in the season, but right now I mean here's what I think.
05:49 --> 05:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think this is a two-week injury, I think this is something that's going to keep CalRollie out.
05:54 --> 06:03 [SPEAKER_00]: probably a minimum of four weeks, and then rest going forward, I will say they still need to do some imaging on him.
06:03 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what they said.
06:04 --> 06:07 [SPEAKER_00]: They need to do some imaging on him to evaluate the severity of it.
06:08 --> 06:14 [SPEAKER_00]: But it was clear it was severe enough for them to throw him on the interlaced right away and get pulled out of Wednesday's game.
06:15 --> 06:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Why are the Mariners worse without Cal Raleigh?
06:18 --> 06:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It's because, you know, he's a damn good offense of player.
06:22 --> 06:26 [SPEAKER_00]: We saw that last year when he hit 60 home runs, but it goes so much farther beyond that.
06:27 --> 06:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, Cal Raleigh's not gonna be in the clubhouse every day as your leader.
06:30 --> 06:31 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a problem.
06:32 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Cal Raleigh probably makes all of the Mariners starting pictures
06:36 --> 06:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Three-quarters to a full run better than Mitch Garver Johnny Pareto would because he knows them He knows their pitch sequences and he's a damn good catcher really good catchers make their starting pitchers a whole lot better He's also allowed one of the only three good defenders that start in your everyday lineup and you're taking one of those guys out
06:55 --> 07:00 [SPEAKER_00]: whether it's Mitch Garver or Johnny Pareto, they're probably not cow-rally behind the plate defensively.
07:00 --> 07:10 [SPEAKER_00]: So now you're left with Julio and Senator, which we're projecting to have good defense the rest of the season, despite the metrics not liking him through the first.
07:11 --> 07:15 [SPEAKER_00]: The metrics in some of the I test through the first couple of months have not been great.
07:15 --> 07:18 [SPEAKER_00]: And Koya, and that's it.
07:18 --> 07:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And as we sit right now, it's now one good defender you have.
07:21 --> 07:23 [SPEAKER_01]: We think Julio'll turn this around defensively.
07:24 --> 07:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Right now you have one good defender because Julio's not playing good defensive.
07:27 --> 07:28 [SPEAKER_01]: We currently speak in centerfield.
07:29 --> 07:31 [SPEAKER_01]: And Carol is out.
07:31 --> 07:36 [SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, that is one hell of a defense you're going to run out there.
07:36 --> 07:38 [SPEAKER_01]: But line up they ran out there defensively here on Thursday.
07:38 --> 07:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Good, Lord.
07:40 --> 07:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I made a mess it up.
07:41 --> 07:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Good thing they scored a bunch of runs because that's what's going to need to happen to make up for the defense.
07:47 --> 08:01 [SPEAKER_01]: That they had here today because it was it was bad dude Luke Rayley has been one of the worst outfielders in Major League Baseball by OAA They put him in center field today center field and that's with Rams Noah their option
08:02 --> 08:08 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, you're not going to put Randy in center, but that's how you have Luke Rayleigh in center field.
08:09 --> 08:15 [SPEAKER_01]: You have Randy in left and we've talked plenty about his defense and then Camzone and Wright who's also not a good defender.
08:15 --> 08:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Then you have one of the worst defenders in Major League Baseball.
08:18 --> 08:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Shortstop, Brendan Donovan, love that they traded for him, love everything he's brought to the team so far, but defensively objectively at third base.
08:25 --> 08:29 [SPEAKER_01]: He has been one of the worst defenders at third base in Major League Baseball this year.
08:29 --> 08:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Then you have Mitch Garver behind the play who's not been a good defensive catcher, where does that leave the only half decent spot of your defensive alignment on the field right side of the end field?
08:39 --> 08:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Cole Young's been a wizard at second base this year, shout out to him and Josh Naylor's fine at first base.
08:45 --> 08:46 [SPEAKER_01]: that that's not good.
08:46 --> 08:53 [SPEAKER_01]: So you want to talk about Cal Rally being three quarters to a full run better when he's behind the plate for his pitchers.
08:54 --> 09:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Not only are they now not going to have Cal behind the plate, you have somebody worse behind the plate and one of the worst defense is a major league baseball behind you.
09:03 --> 09:23 [SPEAKER_00]: not a good combination and now it's I guess it's hard to see your offense getting that much better since you're you were do you think you were waiting on will not come now maybe for months as Cal are always tries to get back to full health we'll see we'll see where this goes how do we think Cal was hurt for do we think Cal was hurt this whole time
09:23 --> 09:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think it's been since the WBC?
09:26 --> 09:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Daniel Cramer tweeted out that he didn't say it, but if you read, I'll pull up the tweet.
09:32 --> 09:34 [SPEAKER_00]: It kind of sounded like it.
09:35 --> 09:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, while you pull that up, I gotta say this too.
09:38 --> 09:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's run back another addition of you and I being pissed off and I rolling over Mariners quotes regarding injuries, specifically the manager, because what did Dan say when Calgary pulled out of the game on Wednesday night?
09:53 --> 09:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, precaution.
09:54 --> 09:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Precaution that leads to potentially being out for two months?
09:57 --> 09:58 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not precaution.
09:59 --> 10:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Like precaution makes it seem like your day to day and they're trying to be careful.
10:03 --> 10:08 [SPEAKER_01]: They're not trying to make anything worse and I get that they're still not with this
10:09 --> 10:38 [SPEAKER_01]: just say like he heard something in his side we're gonna get more testing done per cautionary makes it sound like well stay today like like he'll be back in there no now he's out for weeks come on like it's not precautionary alright let me let me find this cramer i got distracted listening to you um i tell me i'm wrong with that no you're not wrong that's not precautionary it's not new it's not new but it's not precautionary
10:40 --> 10:41 [SPEAKER_01]: You got it, and find it?
10:42 --> 10:42 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
10:43 --> 10:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Where is it?
10:44 --> 10:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that is.
10:44 --> 10:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
10:45 --> 10:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Sounds like Carl will go through more thorough evaluation tomorrow when this Mariners return to Seattle.
10:52 --> 10:53 [SPEAKER_00]: No timeline to return yet.
10:53 --> 10:57 [SPEAKER_00]: A bleak strains, especially for a switch hitter and a catcher can linger.
10:57 --> 11:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's obviously been grinding through it for two weeks.
11:02 --> 11:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, two weeks does not date back to the WBC.
11:10 --> 11:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I thought the whole point is, I brought up the WBC.
11:12 --> 11:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I asked you, I think it's been going on since then.
11:14 --> 11:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you pulled up to me.
11:16 --> 11:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, then I didn't hear you correctly.
11:17 --> 11:19 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think it's been going on since the WBC.
11:20 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I think maybe he heard it sometime in the last month.
11:25 --> 11:28 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's basically how Rally fashion tried to play through it.
11:29 --> 11:30 [SPEAKER_00]: We brought it up on here before.
11:30 --> 11:31 [SPEAKER_00]: It's been talked about plenty.
11:31 --> 11:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Cal broke his thumb or tore a ligament in his thumb when he's not a rookie, but in 2022, and just played through it in September.
11:38 --> 11:45 [SPEAKER_00]: The difference is like it's May, there's no reason to play through an injury, especially one that lingers as much as an oblique does.
11:45 --> 11:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I really do hope Cal Rally wasn't playing hurt and just made it that made, made, made the injury worse by trying to play through it.
11:52 --> 11:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, we love Cal.
11:54 --> 11:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Cal's a leader of the team.
11:55 --> 12:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He's arguably the face of the city in terms of athletes at this point, but I can't help but wonder now if he was playing through something the last two weeks.
12:07 --> 12:11 [SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to imagine he was, and I'm sorry, but like when,
12:11 --> 12:23 [SPEAKER_01]: one of the best offensive players in the sport goes over thirty eight, like that, I know baseball is a weird game, but Cal Rally's too good to do that.
12:24 --> 12:27 [SPEAKER_01]: You can't help but wonder if he was playing injured.
12:27 --> 12:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Jeff Passen said this on Brock and saw this week.
12:30 --> 12:32 [SPEAKER_01]: His exact quote where was this.
12:32 --> 12:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He said, I don't know if Cal Rally's injured, but he's playing like he is.
12:42 --> 12:45 [SPEAKER_00]: He was quote-unquote feeling better, but he was hurt.
12:46 --> 12:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he missed three games with a side issue, sides oblique, like, let's just say, like it was an oblique, his oblique was hurting.
12:54 --> 12:55 [SPEAKER_00]: It was feeling good enough.
12:56 --> 13:02 [SPEAKER_00]: So he tried to play through it and then made it worse and landed himself on the intro list.
13:02 --> 13:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Again.
13:03 --> 13:04 [SPEAKER_01]: We love count.
13:04 --> 13:04 [SPEAKER_01]: We really do.
13:05 --> 13:06 [SPEAKER_01]: He's been played for everything.
13:06 --> 13:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He'll play for anything.
13:08 --> 13:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And this isn't about us, obviously, just in general, people, the whole city loves them for every good reason.
13:15 --> 13:16 [SPEAKER_01]: He's such a leader.
13:16 --> 13:17 [SPEAKER_01]: He's such a good baseball player.
13:18 --> 13:21 [SPEAKER_01]: He is again, like you said, he's tough as nails and you're ready.
13:21 --> 13:23 [SPEAKER_01]: He does play through everything.
13:23 --> 13:27 [SPEAKER_01]: But this is the first time where it's really seemed to potentially bite him.
13:28 --> 13:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Because if he was playing through something and potentially tweaked it worse, you wonder if that's now gonna result in him being out longer.
13:35 --> 13:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And if that's the case, I mean, it's collectively on a lot of people, if that's the case.
13:40 --> 13:46 [SPEAKER_01]: It would be partly uncalled and not just, again, I know you basically have to tie him down to get him to not play in a baseball game.
13:47 --> 13:48 [SPEAKER_01]: That's how tough the guy is.
13:48 --> 13:49 [SPEAKER_01]: But,
13:51 --> 13:56 [SPEAKER_01]: when you're cutting up the pie here, it's partly on him if he didn't just shut it down immediately.
13:57 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_01]: It's partly on Dan and the coaching staff for not stepping in and telling him he's just gonna be shut down because Dan's the leader of the team, I mean, he's the manager, he gets final, like he gets to say in those things, he could have stepped in of the coaching staff around him whoever you wanna talk about.
14:13 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And then, I guess there's a part in here about the training staff too.
14:17 --> 14:21 [SPEAKER_01]: That is getting into rough waters because I'm no doctor.
14:21 --> 14:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have the medical background on this.
14:22 --> 14:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the prognosis on cow was throughout the last couple weeks, but again, I'm not saying this happened because that's not fair and we have no idea.
14:32 --> 14:35 [SPEAKER_01]: But you can't help as two people who don't have all the information.
14:36 --> 14:40 [SPEAKER_01]: You can't help but speculate if they were
14:40 --> 15:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Let them play through some stuff because this has happened before because he's played through things before and it's been okay Right like who's to think that he wasn't hurting at the end of last year and some undisclosed injury after playing in 160 games 120 of them on the player And this is For his unbelievably value as he is valuable as he is back there
15:06 --> 15:13 [SPEAKER_01]: This is where you could potentially run into problems, catching this many games throughout the course of the year.
15:13 --> 15:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, if you told Cal, he was gonna have to catch less games.
15:16 --> 15:18 [SPEAKER_01]: He'd probably wanna punch you in the face.
15:18 --> 15:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he wants no part of hearing that he has to catch less games.
15:21 --> 15:23 [SPEAKER_01]: He wants to be back there every single day.
15:24 --> 15:35 [SPEAKER_01]: But is it fair to wonder if the insane workload he's taken on over the last year, three years, whatever you wanna chalk it up to?
15:35 --> 15:37 [SPEAKER_01]: played some factor into this.
15:37 --> 15:39 [SPEAKER_01]: You can't know for sure, but you can't help but wonder.
15:40 --> 15:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Totally could have.
15:41 --> 15:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the premier offensive catchers at this age start moving out off the plate.
15:47 --> 15:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Buster Posey, Joe Mauer, like at that point.
15:53 --> 15:55 [SPEAKER_00]: you move to a different position, you don't catch as much.
15:56 --> 16:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, some people might reference Yati in that group, but Yati wasn't even close to the offense of player that Cal is.
16:01 --> 16:03 [SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't the offense of player that Posey and Mower were.
16:03 --> 16:04 [SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't that.
16:04 --> 16:05 [SPEAKER_01]: He was a great catcher.
16:05 --> 16:08 [SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't the greatest bat in the world.
16:08 --> 16:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Cal's bat is so much more valuable than somebody like Yati's was.
16:12 --> 16:17 [SPEAKER_01]: That, yes, this is why careers get preserved often, because you want their bat for another decade.
16:18 --> 16:21 [SPEAKER_00]: But also those guys playing like,
16:22 --> 16:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, because Yaday was still playing and catching most days, later into his career, but he was also significantly less productive offensively.
16:30 --> 16:33 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners need to protect Cal Raleigh's offense.
16:34 --> 16:35 [SPEAKER_00]: going forward.
16:35 --> 16:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's he's a huge part of the middle of the line up.
16:38 --> 16:39 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not just the catcher.
16:39 --> 16:41 [SPEAKER_00]: He is an anchor of the lineup.
16:42 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why those guys need to get treated differently.
16:44 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_00]: The poseies and the mowers need to get treated significantly different than like a yaddy or malina who's a solid part of the lineup for those cardinals teams that are really good.
16:54 --> 16:57 [SPEAKER_00]: But he's not, you know, breaking the world offensively as he's catching into his
16:57 --> 16:59 [SPEAKER_00]: mid to late 30s.
17:00 --> 17:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it works out, but you don't want Cal to have a 700 OPS.
17:04 --> 17:06 [SPEAKER_00]: And even Yaddy has got to be in.
17:07 --> 17:08 [SPEAKER_00]: It just wasn't as good.
17:08 --> 17:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Yaddy had a 720 OPS first career.
17:10 --> 17:11 [SPEAKER_00]: You want more than that.
17:11 --> 17:14 [SPEAKER_00]: From you want Cal to be an 850 to 900 OPS header.
17:15 --> 17:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Now let's show you he could do it.
17:16 --> 17:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Frankly, TJ, you can't want more than that.
17:19 --> 17:20 [SPEAKER_01]: You have to have more than that.
17:20 --> 17:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Because that's how this roster's built.
17:22 --> 17:28 [SPEAKER_01]: The roster cannot and will not succeed if Cal Raleh's OPSing 700.
17:28 --> 17:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Because the whole thing is built around him and Julio being the stars and having enough supporting pieces around them offensively, along with an elite rotation to anchor this thing.
17:38 --> 17:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Cal's out.
17:40 --> 17:42 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why I said 15 minutes ago.
17:42 --> 17:51 [SPEAKER_01]: They will not win the world series if Cal is going to miss significant time Like if he's if if he were to be out all year and I'm not saying that's what's going on We have no idea.
17:52 --> 17:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think at the end of the day he would miss the rest of the year or anything like that but
17:57 --> 18:00 [SPEAKER_01]: This roster is built around him and Julio being the stars.
18:01 --> 18:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you haven't gone out and spent big money in free agency.
18:04 --> 18:06 [SPEAKER_01]: You haven't executed any marquee trait.
18:06 --> 18:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Like Brandon Donovan's a really good player.
18:08 --> 18:15 [SPEAKER_01]: But that's not the same thing as going and getting a true, like super star middle of the order bat.
18:15 --> 18:17 [SPEAKER_01]: You will not brought other true stars.
18:18 --> 18:20 [SPEAKER_01]: into this lineup around Kalen Julio.
18:21 --> 18:24 [SPEAKER_01]: You brought very good players into the lineup, but not superstars.
18:24 --> 18:28 [SPEAKER_01]: It's built around Kalen Julio being superstars, and one of your superstars is out.
18:29 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that is a big problem.
18:31 --> 18:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at Buster Posey.
18:32 --> 18:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's some information that'll be useful to people.
18:34 --> 18:40 [SPEAKER_00]: So after the age of 27, Buster Posey only played more than two thirds of the games behind the plate one time.
18:41 --> 18:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Before he retired.
18:43 --> 18:47 [SPEAKER_00]: So that was in 2016 at age 29.
18:48 --> 18:53 [SPEAKER_00]: That was the last time Buster Posey played two thirds of the games behind the play for the Giants.
18:54 --> 18:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Cal 29 right now.
18:56 --> 18:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
18:57 --> 19:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile, Cal Raleigh for example, I think has played two thirds of the games behind the play for every year of his Mariners career.
19:03 --> 19:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes he has.
19:05 --> 19:09 [SPEAKER_00]: And then for, let's, yeah, oh, Joe Mower.
19:09 --> 19:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because Joe Mower is like the epitome of moving to first base.
19:12 --> 19:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
19:13 --> 19:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Hall of Famer.
19:14 --> 19:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Hall of Famer and he had DH.
19:17 --> 19:18 [SPEAKER_00]: He had DH as well.
19:19 --> 19:26 [SPEAKER_00]: So Joe Maurer, the last year he played two thirds of the games at catcher was his age 27 season.
19:28 --> 19:34 [SPEAKER_00]: So for the premier offensive guys, if they have the ability to get off of catcher, they do it.
19:36 --> 19:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And we're not sitting here saying that's what the Mariners should do.
19:39 --> 19:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Number one because he's so valuable a cow back behind the plate.
19:42 --> 19:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Number two cow would never in a million years agree to that and I don't blame him.
19:46 --> 19:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
19:47 --> 19:51 [SPEAKER_00]: But in the Mariners are worse team, honestly, if he just transitions to first base or D.H.
19:51 --> 19:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
19:52 --> 20:02 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, well again, one he never agreed to it, but two to be that kind of catcher offensively back behind the plate is just so
20:03 --> 20:19 [SPEAKER_01]: valuable and again like he would he would never move like he wants to catch till he's probably 50 years old if it's up to cow but man this injury really it is a thorn in the side it might be a good thing he's going to get some force time off on the injured list
20:19 --> 20:33 [SPEAKER_00]: because there might be some other things that are bugging him, that he can let heal now, and he can actually rest, so then when he comes back and he tries to catch every game down the stretch run of the season, he actually will have gotten a bit of a break in a resting period here about a month and a half in.
20:35 --> 20:54 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a perfect comparison, but I remember Justin Hollander saying something similar about Johnny Farmello last year when Johnny had the side or rib issue that kept him out for a bit of the 25 season down in the minors, which was he got back from the ACL injury, had a few really good games.
20:54 --> 20:58 [SPEAKER_01]: but then heard his side or rib and missed some more time last year.
20:59 --> 21:06 [SPEAKER_01]: But Hollander said honestly in some ways it's a little bit of a blessing in disguise just because it gives the knee even more time to just rest and to heal.
21:07 --> 21:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And he'll also be recovering from the second injury in addition.
21:10 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's like Cal.
21:11 --> 21:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Cal's got other things that are bugin' him.
21:13 --> 21:18 [SPEAKER_01]: He could just recover from everything and then he comes back just fire in once he gets back on the field.
21:19 --> 21:22 [SPEAKER_01]: But I really hope again, like if he's gonna miss
21:23 --> 21:31 [SPEAKER_01]: three to four weeks, you can survive that, but man, two plus months will be a really long time.
21:32 --> 21:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I would stay tuned to our social channels.
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23:39 --> 23:41 [SPEAKER_00]: First question comes from Evan on Patreon.
23:42 --> 23:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Evan has a proposal for how the Mariners could use Luis Castillo.
23:46 --> 23:49 [SPEAKER_00]: He says that the Mariners are planning to piggyback with Luis Castillo.
23:49 --> 23:52 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about the idea of pitching him three innings every four days?
23:53 --> 23:57 [SPEAKER_00]: So he piggybacked Bryce Miller for one turn to the rotation.
23:57 --> 24:01 [SPEAKER_00]: rest, and then you piggyback George Kirby, rest, and then you piggyback, Logan Gilbert.
24:02 --> 24:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, the starter would know they don't have to pitch more than five innings in the start, and the bullpen would know they only need to account for the ninth inning.
24:09 --> 24:10 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you think of that idea?
24:11 --> 24:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I like the creativity and this is why we always love everybody that sends us these mailback questions because people get very creative with it.
24:19 --> 24:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I just think that would end up being too much of a headache on everybody.
24:22 --> 24:26 [SPEAKER_01]: The mariners having to try to manage the schedules of not just Louise but everybody.
24:27 --> 24:31 [SPEAKER_01]: It would be very tough on Castillo to have to go through that.
24:31 --> 24:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I think every single time through the rotation because we're talking about like I get
24:39 --> 24:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He just throw three innings.
24:42 --> 24:46 [SPEAKER_01]: But then he's not really built up if he ever needed to get back into the rotation.
24:46 --> 24:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, because he'd be throwing 50 to 60 pitches every time he pitches rather than 100.
24:52 --> 24:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So if he ever needed to get back into the rotation, there'd probably be some buildup time that he'd need.
24:56 --> 25:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, maybe the biggest reason is,
25:02 --> 25:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the reason it looks as much as we don't agree with the way the Mariners are going about this to start and going with this six man and going with the piggyback rather than just setting your best five guys.
25:15 --> 25:32 [SPEAKER_01]: At that part aside, I think the reason they want Luis to piggyback Bryce Miller is because Bryce Miller's coming off in injury, that does give them time to slowly work him back in and not have to put as much pressure on him to go deep in the games and let Luis go after him.
25:32 --> 25:35 [SPEAKER_01]: If that's how they do it and that's how they should do it because it should be Bryce starting his game.
25:36 --> 25:44 [SPEAKER_01]: If Logan Gilbert goes out and throws six shutout innings and he's at 74 pitches and then
25:44 --> 25:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Luis needs his three innings.
25:47 --> 25:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there would be some bad optics there with that.
25:49 --> 25:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Either you're forcing Luis into the game and you're taking Logan out early.
25:54 --> 25:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Or, yeah, I mean, that's the biggest thing.
25:59 --> 26:04 [SPEAKER_01]: And if it goes wrong, then people are gonna crush it, because it's like, well, why'd you take Logan out after 70 plus pitches?
26:04 --> 26:05 [SPEAKER_01]: That's all.
26:05 --> 26:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Long-winded answer, but there's a lot of layers to that.
26:08 --> 26:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think this does anyone favors.
26:10 --> 26:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Number one, you want your best pitchers throwing the most.
26:13 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_00]: In this scenario, you have deemed that Luis Castillo doesn't deserve a rotation spot.
26:18 --> 26:29 [SPEAKER_00]: So he's going to pitch out of the bullpen, but he's going to pitch like a starter out of the bullpen, but he's also not going to get starter length or starter time for a routine.
26:29 --> 26:31 [SPEAKER_00]: His routine is going to be cut short by a day.
26:32 --> 26:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Like does that do
26:37 --> 26:38 [SPEAKER_00]: probably not as consistent.
26:38 --> 26:47 [SPEAKER_00]: He might have specific things he likes to do on the specific four days between starts now that he would have one last day to do at this point in this scenario.
26:47 --> 26:56 [SPEAKER_00]: He's coming into games in different situations and this doesn't like you said do the Mariners current rotation guys.
26:56 --> 27:15 [SPEAKER_01]: any favors at all like what a Brian with through five brilliant perfect innings and the man is like time for Luis Castillo to pitch right I mean again can you imagine the discourse it's like oh Brian was at 52 pitches through five innings well his days done and then Luis comes in and gets hit hard oh that
27:16 --> 27:19 [SPEAKER_01]: even want to look at Twitter that day if that happens.
27:20 --> 27:23 [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to put Luis in the bullpen, just put Luis in the bullpen.
27:23 --> 27:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's essentially what this is, except it's forcing him outings.
27:27 --> 27:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Put him in the bullpen and let him throw like a reliever and then everything I think works out.
27:33 --> 27:34 [SPEAKER_00]: But...
27:35 --> 27:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Or again, man, just fan of my album.
27:38 --> 27:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that makes so much more sense in the bullpen.
27:40 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I know the bullpen is short right now, and they need some more arms, but I don't know if Louise is gonna translate great to the bullpen or not.
27:47 --> 27:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Just put them on the fan of my album and figure it out in a few weeks.
27:52 --> 27:53 [SPEAKER_00]: give yourself some more time.
27:54 --> 27:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Give kick the can down the road on moving him to the bullpen.
27:57 --> 27:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Like eventually someone is going to the bullpen.
28:00 --> 28:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Back multiple of these starters that the Mariners will have by the end of the season will be in that bullpen.
28:05 --> 28:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Come play off time.
28:07 --> 28:17 [SPEAKER_00]: But if they don't want to do it now, which we totally understand, you got to you got to find a way to kick the can down the road and that look that is it piggybacking does not do anyone favors.
28:17 --> 28:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if Logan Gilbert or Brian we were George Kirby or Bryce Miller would like that.
28:22 --> 28:25 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh, you're starting the game, but you could only throw five innings max.
28:25 --> 28:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
28:26 --> 28:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Or Emerson for that matter.
28:27 --> 28:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or Emerson.
28:28 --> 28:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
28:29 --> 28:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would be a weird one.
28:30 --> 28:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for the question though, Evan.
28:32 --> 28:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Next question comes from Michael on Patreon.
28:35 --> 28:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Michael's question is, what player on this team is surprised you so far this season?
28:41 --> 28:41 [SPEAKER_01]: We just said his name.
28:42 --> 28:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Might be obvious, but I think there's only one name you can really point to.
28:45 --> 28:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's Emerson Hancock, man.
28:47 --> 28:48 [SPEAKER_01]: For how good that guy's been?
28:48 --> 28:52 [SPEAKER_01]: For what people's expectations were for him going into the year?
28:52 --> 28:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there was some debate even going out of spring training.
28:57 --> 29:02 [SPEAKER_01]: As the days were winding down about who was gonna fill Bryce Miller's spot in the rotation to start the year.
29:02 --> 29:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Because Cooper Chriswell was throwing really well in spring training.
29:05 --> 29:11 [SPEAKER_01]: There was some discourse about is it gonna be Hancock or is it gonna be Chriswell?
29:11 --> 29:18 [SPEAKER_01]: And to see him go from that, to he's got a legit chance to go to the all-star game for the Mariners this year if this keeps up.
29:18 --> 29:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's him.
29:20 --> 29:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It might be both of those guys, Lyle.
29:22 --> 29:23 [SPEAKER_00]: My Christmas has been great, too.
29:24 --> 29:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
29:26 --> 29:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really want him pitching in leverage, but when everybody's healthy, to have a guy with a 2-E-R-A throwing in the 6th inning, awesome.
29:34 --> 29:39 [SPEAKER_00]: My guy, I think I have to say Julio, and it's not that he can't do what he's doing right now.
29:40 --> 29:42 [SPEAKER_00]: We just never seen him do it in May.
29:43 --> 29:44 [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, am I surprised?
29:44 --> 29:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm surprised with what we're seeing from Julio Rodriguez here in May were used to seeing something like this in July and August.
29:52 --> 29:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And the Mariners are a whole lot better off with him doing this in May than they are with him doing it later.
29:58 --> 30:00 [SPEAKER_00]: So, it's a lot of good options.
30:00 --> 30:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Julio Emerson, Cooper Chris Well, uh, I'd say like Luke Rayleigh, like Luke Rayleigh's been really goodness career, but he's pretty bad last year and he's not only been good this year, he's been really, really good and the power has been exactly what you need it.
30:17 --> 30:18 [SPEAKER_00]: So let's say those guys are good.
30:18 --> 30:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Good options.
30:20 --> 30:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Rayleigh's been awesome.
30:21 --> 30:29 [SPEAKER_01]: He's usually very streaky, and he still has been this year, because he was really hot to start, and he went through a really cold streak, and now he's really hot again.
30:29 --> 30:33 [SPEAKER_01]: This is just how he goes, but he has been awesome.
30:33 --> 30:34 [SPEAKER_01]: He really has.
30:35 --> 30:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Next question comes from Zander on Patreon.
30:37 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Zander's question is, what are your guys hobbies outside of content?
30:41 --> 30:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I know this takes up a lot of your time and energy, but any other hobbies you might have.
30:46 --> 30:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm boring, man.
30:48 --> 30:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I love watching baseball.
30:49 --> 30:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And it might make me, it might make me uncultured.
30:54 --> 30:57 [SPEAKER_01]: But I probably need more hobbies.
30:57 --> 31:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I like to go to the gym if you're gonna count that as a hobby that.
31:03 --> 31:06 [SPEAKER_00]: But, man, I wouldn't count that as a hobby.
31:06 --> 31:07 [SPEAKER_01]: That other than count?
31:07 --> 31:07 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
31:09 --> 31:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, we've talked about that we really like Star Wars, right?
31:13 --> 31:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And like, the Marvel movies, like, like, those, those I really liked.
31:17 --> 31:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's not really new ones coming out.
31:19 --> 31:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, actually, Mando's, the Mando movies coming out here in a couple of weeks.
31:23 --> 31:24 [SPEAKER_01]: That'll be saying, I love Mando Lauren.
31:25 --> 31:32 [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess, I guess if you're going to go to stuff like that, like, yeah, like to pick certain TV shows to watch.
31:32 --> 31:35 [SPEAKER_01]: TJ's probably more of an avid TV watcher than I am, but,
31:36 --> 31:56 [SPEAKER_01]: When I've got the time, yeah, like watching TV shows and there was a bunch I watched over the last few years that were really good, like, man, what I mean, I mean, I think we talked about Cobra Kai at one point, which funny tie, and now that's Eric Young's brother that's in the show.
31:57 --> 32:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, he, why Mariners, first base co-chair at Young Junior, his kids in the show.
32:00 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_01]: That was one, or
32:03 --> 32:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Man, what else did I watch or I mean squid game?
32:05 --> 32:06 [SPEAKER_01]: That was really good.
32:06 --> 32:23 [SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, I guess I guess TV like like if you're not going to count going to the gym and you're not counting all the baseball content stuff and you're And you need to find something else that but As people who are crossover listeners of this show and Brock and Sok know, yeah, I'm pretty uncultured.
32:26 --> 32:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Lows hobby is baseball.
32:27 --> 32:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it just happens to also be what we both do for a living.
32:31 --> 32:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you want to count like watching college football in the NFL and stuff like that and other sports great like all You see watching non Like non baseball like that's one of your hobbies.
32:43 --> 32:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, we love love football You know, we're casual basketball watchers.
32:49 --> 33:01 [SPEAKER_01]: We were more into it when we were younger at least me I'm sure I'll get more into it when the Sonics come back, but yeah, I would say that I'd say my hobbies
33:01 --> 33:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
33:02 --> 33:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I love going to find new places to eat.
33:05 --> 33:07 [SPEAKER_00]: That's one of the most fun things.
33:07 --> 33:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, me and my girlfriend will go find, try and find as many new places as we can.
33:11 --> 33:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, whenever we're going out to eat, we always try and find somewhere new to go.
33:16 --> 33:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd say my girlfriend is a hobby.
33:19 --> 33:23 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a pretty big time commitment outside of outside of all of the work we do.
33:24 --> 33:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I love traveling too, so I'd say, you know, eating, traveling, spending time with my girlfriend or I'd say my, my three main hobbies that that I, that I do now, you watch a lot of TV though, don't you?
33:37 --> 33:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I do, but I've been spending most of the time watching like the same show, because like we've been watching scandal and I've been trying to finish it.
33:43 --> 33:50 [SPEAKER_00]: But as you know, like work adds up, so there's not always a ton of time to finish watching it.
33:50 --> 33:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I've loved to find more time to watch.
33:52 --> 34:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll usually put more of an emphasis when like a new Star Wars show comes out like they just had like the They had the new Darth Maul Show come out on Disney Plus.
34:01 --> 34:09 [SPEAKER_00]: That was really good like that one I watched when it came out Oh, there will be I need to get Disney Plus back because there's some of these Star Wars shows.
34:09 --> 34:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I need to catch up on them.
34:10 --> 34:18 [SPEAKER_01]: They're so good They are on they're as good if not better than the movies is is the Darth Maul Show I feel stupid for not knowing this
34:18 --> 34:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it live action or cartoon?
34:19 --> 34:21 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's animation.
34:22 --> 34:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
34:22 --> 34:23 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like the Clone Wars.
34:23 --> 34:24 [SPEAKER_00]: The animation's good.
34:24 --> 34:25 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
34:25 --> 34:26 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not like you're watching a kid.
34:26 --> 34:28 [SPEAKER_00]: It's definitely not a kitty cartoon.
34:28 --> 34:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, because they put Darth Maul back into the shows when he was on...
34:33 --> 34:34 [SPEAKER_01]: It revels.
34:34 --> 34:34 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what it was.
34:35 --> 34:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and using the... No, actually, no, he was not in the Clone Wars.
34:38 --> 34:39 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, he's on, I mean, he's alive the whole time.
34:40 --> 34:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
34:41 --> 34:42 [SPEAKER_00]: for the most.
34:42 --> 34:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Now he's a very interesting character, so I'm glad they did a show about him.
34:46 --> 34:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Now I love a good show, and I love a good Star Wars show, I love Game of Thrones too.
34:50 --> 34:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, they'll have the new house of the Dragon Show sometime in the summer.
34:55 --> 34:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I forgot to mention that.
34:55 --> 34:56 [SPEAKER_00]: That I will watch.
34:56 --> 34:57 [SPEAKER_00]: That we will both watch.
34:57 --> 34:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
34:58 --> 35:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I forgot to mention that that I really like those shows too.
35:02 --> 35:03 [SPEAKER_01]: TJ was the one that got me into Game of Thrones.
35:04 --> 35:11 [SPEAKER_01]: He basically bullied me into watching it when we were in college.
35:11 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, it's just seem like one of those things that I'm never going to watch this or get into this, despite seeing so many people talk about getting ready for the eight season, the final season.
35:22 --> 35:28 [SPEAKER_01]: But I ended up watching it all in like a month because I got so invested in it.
35:28 --> 35:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, wow, this is, I can't turn it off.
35:30 --> 35:35 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I watched it again slower during COVID.
35:35 --> 35:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And then obviously, we've watched the House of the Dragon.
35:37 --> 35:39 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, those are good.
35:40 --> 35:50 [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, you mentioned your food hobby and being a bit of a foodie, you can tell me, well, you use an app, like TJ so much of a foodie that he'll rate restaurants on an app.
35:50 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we use the, we use the belly out.
35:53 --> 35:55 [SPEAKER_00]: There might be some people listening who noted this.
35:55 --> 35:57 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not quite as popular in Seattle.
35:58 --> 35:59 [SPEAKER_00]: It was founded in New York.
35:59 --> 36:03 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's where it has its highest user rating.
36:03 --> 36:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Shocker.
36:04 --> 36:05 [SPEAKER_00]: But, shocker.
36:06 --> 36:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, shocker.
36:07 --> 36:20 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it helps you keep track of a lot of thing and on it kind of it does like Emotivate you to try more new things because at the beginning of the year, it's like you set a fitness school at the beginning of the year I set a goal at the beginning of the year to go to a hundred new restaurants.
36:21 --> 36:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm all over halfway there now.
36:24 --> 36:25 [SPEAKER_00]: So you're on pace.
36:25 --> 36:26 [SPEAKER_00]: It's good.
36:26 --> 36:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's been a lot of money on food, so that's the trade-off.
36:30 --> 36:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you know what, you like to spend your money on, like, I mean, that's an experience in a way, like going to a restaurant, so yeah, that's fine, like people buy experiences.
36:39 --> 36:41 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, like, we, I'll, I'll gas this up.
36:41 --> 36:46 [SPEAKER_00]: We've done well enough that it's not, it's not that big of a, not that big deal.
36:47 --> 36:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, so it's different than being in college.
36:49 --> 36:52 [SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure way way way different than being in college.
36:52 --> 36:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Remember like going to raising pains at in college.
36:54 --> 36:57 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, can I afford this today?
36:57 --> 37:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, do I want to spend my money on this today, but we did we want like raised against what's amazing like I just felt more bad about it I could he can's forever.
37:06 --> 37:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say that yeah TJ's definitely the more versed one of this pod I don't know like I don't know what you want me to tell you we say like we you just talked about people setting goals at the start of the year If you were listening in the office isn't it in January you heard me say for
37:25 --> 37:38 [SPEAKER_01]: As much as we've tried to let people get to know us, even more so this year, I've tried to want to do more to let people know about us, the personalities, and more into the inside of the lives of the two of us, so people can really feel like they're connected with us on this pod.
37:39 --> 37:47 [SPEAKER_01]: This is me being more connected with the fans, like I'm telling you the truth, I don't have like many hobbies, like,
37:47 --> 37:48 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of a very simple person.
37:49 --> 37:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of boring.
37:50 --> 37:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I just like, I love watching baseball, so yeah.
37:54 --> 37:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Look, all the listeners appreciate that because they know you're dedicated to them.
38:00 --> 38:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and specifically, love watching the Mariners.
38:04 --> 38:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes.
38:05 --> 38:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes.
38:07 --> 38:12 [SPEAKER_00]: So, there are positives and negatives to the number one hobby of your life being watching the Seattle Mariners.
38:12 --> 38:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, 100% and by the way, right now it's trending on the negative side, like I'm not in a good mood watching the team these days.
38:21 --> 38:24 [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, that's a good question, those Andrew.
38:24 --> 38:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for asking it.
38:26 --> 38:27 [SPEAKER_00]: You guys feel free on these mailbox.
38:27 --> 38:30 [SPEAKER_00]: You can ask us questions about us as well.
38:30 --> 38:35 [SPEAKER_00]: We are happy to answer them, and it is nice because we do get a lot of the same questions.
38:36 --> 38:41 [SPEAKER_00]: So getting different questions that are in about,
38:41 --> 38:47 [SPEAKER_00]: trading Louise Castillo or Did the Mariners regret trading Harry Ford away?
38:47 --> 38:56 [SPEAKER_00]: The smaller spoiler no no they didn't they were I did chuckle at some of those comments today It's like huh shouldn't have traded away Harry Ford
38:57 --> 39:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, on the radio this morning, people were texting into the text line about that a bunch.
39:02 --> 39:06 [SPEAKER_01]: And I basically made an omission to respond to every person that sent that end today.
39:06 --> 39:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And I just sent to every person.
39:08 --> 39:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, brother, he's hitting 1.98 with a 66 WRC plus intriple A. I don't think they regret trading him.
39:16 --> 39:17 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think so.
39:17 --> 39:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Either.
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40:00 --> 40:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Next question comes from Alex on Patreon.
40:03 --> 40:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Alex's question is, we've seen two overturned ABS challenges.
40:07 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_00]: We need to major game-changing results from Mariners this season.
40:11 --> 40:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Have the Mariners been among the most impactful teams in ABS challenges this season.
40:16 --> 40:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Magic Carver certainly has.
40:18 --> 40:19 [SPEAKER_01]: He's been really good at it.
40:20 --> 40:32 [SPEAKER_00]: They don't have a stat though yet, I believe, where it's like ABS challenges over-expected, or like, impact of ABS challenges on, like, when part probability added, for example.
40:32 --> 40:33 [SPEAKER_00]: They don't have that, I don't think.
40:35 --> 40:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Not that I know of.
40:36 --> 40:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he's having enough.
40:37 --> 40:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Correct percentage, they don't have, like,
40:42 --> 40:44 [SPEAKER_00]: like war for ABS.
40:45 --> 40:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Mitch Garver and Rob Ruff Snyder would be at the top.
40:48 --> 40:55 [SPEAKER_00]: At the very least, if they ranked the plays, like the most impactful overturns, those could be up there, especially Ruff Snyder's.
40:56 --> 41:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Ruff Snyder has an argument to be one of the most impactful the entire season.
41:01 --> 41:04 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, and Randy did the same thing this week as well.
41:05 --> 41:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
41:06 --> 41:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, they haven't been bad at it.
41:08 --> 41:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I think we've answered some questions about challenges in the past.
41:10 --> 41:13 [SPEAKER_01]: They certainly haven't cost them a ton of runs doing it.
41:14 --> 41:21 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just hard to know exactly how they stack up to the rest of the league in terms of the impact that they've had as a result of challenges.
41:21 --> 41:23 [SPEAKER_01]: There's certainly been moments that you can point to.
41:23 --> 41:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think any bigger than Rob Reff Snyder and St. Louis when he challenged the call, got it right and then hit a homer when he had two strikes on him.
41:31 --> 41:37 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think we need more time to be able to have actual numbers and data to see how they stack up with the rest of the league.
41:38 --> 41:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, I'm totally with you.
41:40 --> 41:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Next question comes from Jacob on Patreon.
41:43 --> 41:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Jacob's question is, okay guys, I'm a cook, so I'm kind of curious what your favorite food to eat at a restaurant and what's your favorite type of food?
41:52 --> 41:54 [SPEAKER_00]: These are probably the same to be honest.
41:55 --> 41:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, by type of food is that cuisine?
41:59 --> 42:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
42:00 --> 42:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, actually, you know it to change it up.
42:01 --> 42:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
42:02 --> 42:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
42:02 --> 42:04 [SPEAKER_00]: We do cuisine in your favorite thing to eat out.
42:05 --> 42:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
42:09 --> 42:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, with no care in the world, if I'm not, you know, if I just want to have the best possible meal, it's probably something like steak, mashed potatoes, Caesar salad, and some form of dessert.
42:25 --> 42:29 [SPEAKER_01]: But if I was going to go more on
42:29 --> 42:33 [SPEAKER_01]: like the hell side, it'd probably be like, check in or salmon with a salad.
42:33 --> 42:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, the most favorite food to eat at a restaurant.
42:37 --> 42:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you're going out to eat.
42:39 --> 42:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, at a restaurant.
42:40 --> 42:48 [SPEAKER_01]: It'd be like steak, steak, mashed potatoes, Caesar salad, like, when you get that, when you get a good steak at a good steak house, or a good restaurant, it's that.
42:49 --> 42:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, this isn't a perfect comparison, but,
42:55 --> 43:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Like going a Brazilian steak house is not that I've been many times, but when you get the all you can eat stuff, oh, it's unreal.
43:03 --> 43:06 [SPEAKER_01]: But when you just have a normal meal, I definitely say steak.
43:07 --> 43:07 [SPEAKER_00]: No, what about your cuisine?
43:09 --> 43:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Cuisines, probably.
43:11 --> 43:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's a couple.
43:16 --> 43:21 [SPEAKER_01]: It's probably honestly a Italian or Mexican food.
43:22 --> 43:33 [SPEAKER_00]: So when I decide what do I want to eat at a restaurant, I always decide, I try and choose things I don't, I can't make at home that I physically can't cook.
43:34 --> 43:43 [SPEAKER_00]: As much as I love steak and the best cuts of steak that you'll have at a steak house, that you pay, if you buy like a hundred dollar steak, it's usually incredible, but you can make steak at home.
43:43 --> 43:45 [SPEAKER_00]: You buy a really expensive cut of meat.
43:45 --> 43:47 [SPEAKER_00]: It is kind of hard to screw it up.
43:47 --> 43:48 [SPEAKER_00]: if you're at home.
43:48 --> 43:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Just put some salt on it.
43:50 --> 43:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Make sure that internal temperature of the stakes good and you have yourself a really tasty steak.
43:55 --> 43:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd screw it up.
43:57 --> 43:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't cook.
43:58 --> 43:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't grill.
43:59 --> 44:03 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like three flips and then you stick the thermometer in it.
44:03 --> 44:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And if it says, I think mediumers, 120 degrees, then it's done.
44:09 --> 44:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure it is.
44:10 --> 44:13 [SPEAKER_01]: You're sitting here saying it and I'm going to agree with you.
44:14 --> 44:16 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like the simplest thing ever.
44:16 --> 44:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to challenge you in the future.
44:18 --> 44:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Learn how to cook a steak.
44:20 --> 44:24 [SPEAKER_00]: It's really not that much different than cooking ground meat and a pan.
44:25 --> 44:25 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not.
44:26 --> 44:30 [SPEAKER_01]: That is the only thing I can make like ground turkey and ground meat.
44:30 --> 44:31 [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
44:31 --> 44:37 [SPEAKER_00]: You leave it in the pan a little bit longer till the temperature is what you want it to.
44:37 --> 44:38 [SPEAKER_00]: And then there you go.
44:38 --> 44:38 [SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
44:39 --> 44:42 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't need to season it that much, especially if it's a good cut of meat.
44:43 --> 44:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Great, again, if you say so.
44:47 --> 44:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, again, I don't have hot meat dude.
44:52 --> 44:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, one of these days you'll come around do it.
44:56 --> 44:56 [SPEAKER_00]: maybe.
44:58 --> 44:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, my favorite thing to eat out.
45:00 --> 45:00 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like two things.
45:01 --> 45:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Things I cannot cook at home that I'm not good enough to cook at home that I think are that much better out.
45:06 --> 45:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Pizza is one of those things.
45:08 --> 45:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Really, really good pizza.
45:10 --> 45:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have the contraptions with a regular oven to cook.
45:15 --> 45:17 [SPEAKER_00]: For example, like Detroit style pizza, which is really good.
45:17 --> 45:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Like we had some Detroit style pizza in Florida when we were over the winter meetings.
45:20 --> 45:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my God, it was really good.
45:24 --> 45:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Or like your classic like New York slice, it's just that much better.
45:28 --> 45:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Like the cheese is better.
45:29 --> 45:31 [SPEAKER_00]: The sauce is clearly better.
45:32 --> 45:34 [SPEAKER_00]: The bread is usually really, really, really good.
45:34 --> 45:35 [SPEAKER_00]: The crust, oh, amazing.
45:36 --> 45:42 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the kind of thing I can't make at home, not as well as I think I could make a better steak at home than I could make a pizza at home.
45:43 --> 46:05 [SPEAKER_00]: or sushi can't make sushi at home like look at me can i make sushi at home no i cannot which is funny you say that is a short list of things because you like hate seafood but like sushi i really like it's the weirdest thing ever i cooked fish and front of me without anything else i wouldn't touch it but sushi i really like sushi
46:06 --> 46:07 [SPEAKER_00]: That's weird, I mean, I don't know, Sam is good.
46:10 --> 46:14 [SPEAKER_00]: The texture by itself is, is I'm not a huge fan of it.
46:14 --> 46:17 [SPEAKER_00]: But if I'm going out to eat, I think those are two of the things I like the most.
46:17 --> 46:20 [SPEAKER_00]: But I like a lot of things, I love Indian food, I love Mexican food.
46:20 --> 46:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I will eat pretty much anything out.
46:23 --> 46:25 [SPEAKER_00]: But if I were to choose two things, I would do that.
46:25 --> 46:30 [SPEAKER_00]: My favorite type of food, this change is like every day.
46:31 --> 46:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll just say Italian.
46:33 --> 46:34 [SPEAKER_01]: It's funny.
46:34 --> 46:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, now I'm gonna make myself seem odd after I just made the sushi common about you.
46:38 --> 46:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I said Mexican food is one of my two favorite cuisines, but I also don't like beans.
46:43 --> 46:45 [SPEAKER_01]: So, like any Mexican.
46:45 --> 46:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that is kind of tough.
46:46 --> 46:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, well, I like Mexican food, but it's without beans that I get stuff.
46:53 --> 46:55 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of beans and Mexican food.
46:56 --> 46:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And I asked for them to be taken out.
46:58 --> 46:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
47:00 --> 47:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, again tacos burritos fajitas that you can have all that stuff without beans.
47:05 --> 47:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Well most tacos actually don't have beans Right chunk of them.
47:08 --> 47:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean definitely authentic ones like thing don't have the lights in them burritos and fajitas and things like that Yeah, usually just asked for them to have no beans like I still like Mexican food just not that part Well that's a little peek into the door of
47:23 --> 47:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, listen, I didn't get to answer PB and Jay anywhere in there because that takes precedent is that everybody on your nose over literally everything else like I need a PB and Jay over a good steak.
47:38 --> 47:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you get a PB and Jay at a restaurant?
47:41 --> 47:43 [SPEAKER_01]: How hard am I going to get judged for it?
47:43 --> 47:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Is there judgment involved?
47:46 --> 47:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yes.
47:47 --> 47:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Then then maybe not.
47:49 --> 47:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, well, it would depend on who we're with.
47:52 --> 47:53 [SPEAKER_01]: if it was with a group of friends?
47:54 --> 47:56 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'd order like six of them.
47:56 --> 47:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Really?
47:57 --> 48:05 [SPEAKER_00]: So everybody at the one time we went out and there was an option for you to buy a peanut butter and jelly sandwich out in public and you decided not to do it.
48:05 --> 48:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it wasn't big enough, that's the problem.
48:07 --> 48:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you could have got more than one.
48:09 --> 48:10 [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
48:10 --> 48:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, if we were at some business dinner or something like that, not that we go to things like that, basically ever, but to say we were at something like that, I probably would not order a PB and Jay.
48:21 --> 48:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because because that there would be then there would be significant judgment that could probably.
48:27 --> 48:49 [SPEAKER_01]: alter the the outcome of a certain meeting again even though we don't go to business dinners ever i don't i don't i don't know maybe in the future maybe i can't have a question i guess i can't really think of a time that would happen i guess you never know but if there was no judgeman we're sea sweet at this company dog so yeah what is that we're sea sweet at this company so sea sweet
48:49 --> 48:53 [SPEAKER_01]: See you see you That's that's what they call that.
48:53 --> 48:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, sure Like you're learning a lot of new things on this podcast What else is new?
49:00 --> 49:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's solve got mad at you today for saying oh you never want to learn anything you just have them listen to this I mean nobody forces me to learn anything on here you can try but you just said it now now that I know the term See sweet because we're equals here.
49:13 --> 49:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I can just tell you know like I'm not gonna learn new things
49:17 --> 49:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of salt, Robert has something for you.
49:19 --> 49:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Lyle, I like when you flip shit right back at salt.
49:22 --> 49:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Keep it up, my dude.
49:24 --> 49:27 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, at some point you just get worn down, where you got to start punching back.
49:27 --> 49:51 [SPEAKER_01]: They were, dude, they've been going on the last couple days about, oh, the razor off to a good start is this the like, changing in the age of baseball back to the old age where bunning is now relevant again and bunning is now gonna take precedent when you don't have a lineup that's good enough to compete with the big boppers of the world and are the raised winning baseball games this year because they're bunning.
49:52 --> 50:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Fuck no, they're not, they're winning baseball games because the raise had been one of the best rotations in Major League Baseball, and they've got three legit boppers in their lineup, Camin' Arrow, Aranda, Yani Diaz, that's why they're winning, like, they have been going on about that too, I was like, no, like they're not winning because they're laying down a bunch of stupid bunts.
50:11 --> 50:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I missed your argument with Solk, I saw that you guys spent a segment talking about Bunting.
50:18 --> 50:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, dude.
50:21 --> 50:25 [SPEAKER_01]: It was, I think it was more the day before than the actual labeled segment on it.
50:26 --> 50:28 [SPEAKER_01]: You can listen to both if you want point being, I mean, it's,
50:29 --> 50:30 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so close.
50:30 --> 50:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like my money ball take either because he's like you you should actually read the book and shocker I was like no, I'm probably not gonna do that.
50:36 --> 50:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want me to book But he's like you might learn some additional things and I know like a bunch of the things that happen in money ball outside the movie Like again like Kevin Eucalyse is a big part of money ball the book even though it's not mentioned all that much in the movie just briefly But I also told them and he didn't agree with this, but
50:55 --> 51:06 [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to continuously be my take on it is again like for as good as the movie is as much as I like the movie Like I also hate the preference of money like sorry, not the preference.
51:06 --> 51:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I hate the Like I hate what money ball stands for in a lot of ways because even though we're analytics people Like money balls given a lot of owners and out to not spend and just be cheap because they're like well You see this team just like using analytics and and putting teams together that can sneak into the playoffs
51:23 --> 51:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just do that.
51:24 --> 51:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's run out of 4550 million dollar payroll and just try to money ball it together.
51:28 --> 51:31 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, well, nobody wants to watch that.
51:31 --> 51:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And then those teams don't win.
51:32 --> 51:33 [SPEAKER_01]: No, so.
51:33 --> 51:34 [SPEAKER_01]: No, they don't.
51:34 --> 51:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I literally, I probably sound like a child on the radio the other day because, so I'll say like, like, like, lie, you're gonna have some circling back to doing some apologies to do if the race really have a good season and they win.
51:47 --> 51:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, they won't, but what if they do?
51:48 --> 51:49 [SPEAKER_01]: They won't.
51:49 --> 51:51 [SPEAKER_01]: But what if they actually won the world series?
51:51 --> 51:51 [SPEAKER_01]: They won't.
51:52 --> 51:55 [SPEAKER_01]: And I fully believe that the raise will not be winning the world series.
51:55 --> 51:57 [SPEAKER_01]: We've seen this story too many times with them.
51:58 --> 52:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Like they'll have a good regular season.
52:01 --> 52:03 [SPEAKER_01]: It never lasts, come October.
52:03 --> 52:06 [SPEAKER_00]: There's just not enough depth on any of those teams.
52:06 --> 52:07 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
52:07 --> 52:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sorry, but giving away free outs is not going to help like change the narrative of baseball back to the old age and help like, and
52:18 --> 52:22 [SPEAKER_01]: have teams winning world series, like, there's a reason teams don't button.
52:22 --> 52:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Guys also don't practice it.
52:24 --> 52:24 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
52:24 --> 52:25 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, loud.
52:25 --> 52:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Before we get to these final three questions of the mailbag, do you want to read that?
52:29 --> 52:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's pause for a minute.
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53:05 --> 53:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Ben on Patreon has two questions.
53:08 --> 53:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Why did they put Hopi in instead of Bizarro and such a high-level situation on Wednesday night in the 10th inning?
53:15 --> 53:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Number two, why is Casio starting for this team put him in the bullpen?
53:21 --> 53:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Bizarro had already pitched on Wednesday, right?
53:28 --> 53:28 [SPEAKER_01]: baby.
53:30 --> 53:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because Bazaar would already, but well, yeah, we'll wait.
53:36 --> 53:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Am I am I misremembering this?
53:38 --> 53:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Am I just totally blanking here?
53:40 --> 53:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Why did Hoppy pitch up because Muno's pitch the ninth so Hoppy needed to pitch the tenth and they were also trailing before that.
53:48 --> 53:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah.
53:49 --> 53:51 [SPEAKER_01]: So if I'm remembering right,
53:52 --> 53:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Bazzardo was, I mean, Bazzardo was absolutely the one that had the air and throw and cost them a run in this game.
53:58 --> 54:02 [SPEAKER_00]: But Bazzardo came in when they were, oh no, they were leading.
54:02 --> 54:02 [SPEAKER_00]: They're leading.
54:02 --> 54:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I have this right.
54:04 --> 54:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Bazzardo pitched in the eighth.
54:06 --> 54:06 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I thought.
54:07 --> 54:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And Hoppy pitched in the tenth.
54:08 --> 54:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So Bazzardo couldn't have come in in the tenth inning.
54:11 --> 54:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Now if you're asking why didn't they save Bazzardo?
54:15 --> 54:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I don't think the Mariners were preparing for extra innings at that point.
54:19 --> 54:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the Mariners were up.
54:22 --> 54:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And then I guess it was tied, so maybe you're thinking to yourself if it stays tied, why not just save Bazaar or for the 10th?
54:31 --> 54:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I get the idea of doing that with your closer because when you're on the road and you have to start with a runner on second base, put your best guy in there that you think can get strikeouts and get out of a really tough jam and get the swing and miss.
54:45 --> 54:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I get the idea of saving moonios for the 10th, but I think
54:50 --> 54:56 [SPEAKER_01]: They were just worried about making sure they got out of regulation with the score checked at day.
54:57 --> 54:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, that didn't happen because Bizarre made a bad throw and it gave up a run.
54:59 --> 55:04 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that was actually fine to use Bizarre where they used them.
55:04 --> 55:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And then when it comes to extras, if you don't have your clothes or if you don't have a moon, you just got a piece of together, there's both ends then right now, like I think we all know that.
55:11 --> 55:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, tie game in the seventh inning, yeah, Bizarre should be throwing.
55:14 --> 55:36 [SPEAKER_00]: right like that I don't even think that's much of a question like that's why they didn't save him I want bizarre to affirm in that situation that is why he's on the team like he's he's earned that kind of spot so he should pitch in that spot as much as possible I totally understand the argument and salt brought this up this morning but why didn't they why didn't they save Moon yells for the temp because you can't win the game
55:36 --> 55:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you can't win the game in the night then you could only win the game in the 10th inning.
55:39 --> 55:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, the higher leverage outs would have been in the 10th inning for Munoz, but they still instead pitch him in the 9th instead of the 10th inning were hoppy pitched.
55:50 --> 55:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
55:50 --> 55:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I totally yet.
55:51 --> 55:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
55:53 --> 56:00 [SPEAKER_01]: But look, we don't shy away from getting on some bullpen decisions because they happen a lot.
56:01 --> 56:03 [SPEAKER_01]: But this one is okay with me.
56:03 --> 56:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anything really went crazy wrong with that one.
56:06 --> 56:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, why is Luis Castillo not in the bullpen?
56:11 --> 56:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Pick your reason, man.
56:12 --> 56:16 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners don't want to put $24 million in the bullpen and they're thinking about the financials of it.
56:17 --> 56:18 [SPEAKER_01]: They're worried about
56:18 --> 56:25 [SPEAKER_01]: make in the clubhouse mad, which I still think would be crazy at this point because everybody can see who's performing in this rotation.
56:25 --> 56:27 [SPEAKER_01]: They know how much this season's about winning.
56:30 --> 56:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a perfect answer for this.
56:32 --> 56:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Other than the Mariners don't want to make a definitive decision yet on anybody in their rotation.
56:39 --> 56:40 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's not what we're saying.
56:41 --> 56:43 [SPEAKER_01]: But you're asking why do we think Castillo's in the bullpen?
56:43 --> 56:47 [SPEAKER_01]: We have to try to get into the mind of the Mariners here.
56:48 --> 56:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so they don't turn a starter into a reliever in May when they might need him in July, right?
56:55 --> 57:01 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's not when you have a 24 million dollar picture, you can't just option him to triple a to build up.
57:02 --> 57:03 [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's not a thing.
57:04 --> 57:13 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's why, right, because if this was August, easier conversation have, that's a long season.
57:13 --> 57:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Guys can get hurt.
57:14 --> 57:17 [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of Mariners starters got hurt in the middle of last year.
57:17 --> 57:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, but in June of last year, you didn't have Logan Gilbert at some point.
57:22 --> 57:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Logan Gilbert and George Kirby had just come back.
57:24 --> 57:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Didn't have Bryce Miller, things happen.
57:28 --> 57:37 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why that is 100, that's the reason why they, Mariners could say, the expected numbers for Luis Castillo are saying he's, it's been a little bit unfair.
57:38 --> 57:43 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a battle turner to round as last two starts have looked a lot better, which he has throw the ball a lot harder the last two starts.
57:43 --> 57:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And today against the Astros was much better.
57:47 --> 57:52 [SPEAKER_00]: But in the end, they don't want to take someone who stretched out as a starter and put them in the bullpen.
57:53 --> 57:58 [SPEAKER_00]: And then something happens and then they need a back in the rotation and they're fucked.
57:59 --> 57:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
58:01 --> 58:01 [SPEAKER_00]: That's there.
58:03 --> 58:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Ryan has a question about the Mariners bullpen.
58:05 --> 58:12 [SPEAKER_00]: What do you guys define as leverage arms and why do we classify Bizarre and Furrier not as leverage arms?
58:15 --> 58:18 [SPEAKER_01]: frankly just because they don't get enough swing in this.
58:19 --> 58:20 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't get enough strikeouts.
58:21 --> 58:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Their stuff doesn't produce enough like whiffs in high leverage spots to be that.
58:27 --> 58:28 [SPEAKER_01]: So
58:28 --> 58:30 [SPEAKER_01]: What would I define as a high leverage reliever?
58:31 --> 58:47 [SPEAKER_01]: It is guys that consistently, well, obviously there's the, there's the blatantly obvious points of low ERA's pitch toward the back end of games, but you've got to rack up a lot of strikeouts and put the game in your own hands, because when a reliever gets a lot of swing in this,
58:48 --> 59:11 [SPEAKER_01]: that is what they're doing is they're not allowing external factors to dictate the outcome of games late not the defense anybody it is them they are getting the swing and miss they're fully controlling the outcome of that's and they're doing it a very high rate which puts them toward the back end of the bullpen and usually is an upper echelon reliever
59:11 --> 59:14 [SPEAKER_00]: in the lake, I hear what you said.
59:14 --> 59:19 [SPEAKER_00]: It has to be an absurd amount of strikeouts or a ton of ground balls or both.
59:20 --> 59:40 [SPEAKER_00]: And the problem with Bizarro, Bizarro's a below league average strikeout rate and about a league average walk rate, which is a bad combination for a levered deliver, because at some point, you realize that he is succeeding based on balls in
59:41 --> 59:43 [SPEAKER_00]: which can work, Zach Britain was like that.
59:43 --> 59:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Zach Britain got 80% ground balls against him, but the thing is it was all ground balls.
59:48 --> 59:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Bazardo, if you looked at his savant page, I don't believe it's absurd in any direction.
59:54 --> 59:57 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not a huge ground ball pitcher.
59:57 --> 01:00:02 [SPEAKER_00]: So like if we look at Bazardo, as I wait for this to load,
01:00:02 --> 01:00:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Edward Bazardo this year, first of all, he's in the 13th percentile of average exit velocity.
01:00:08 --> 01:00:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the stats look great, right?
01:00:10 --> 01:00:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Two, two, one, ERA, a one, two whip in 22 games and 20, a third day.
01:00:15 --> 01:00:15 [SPEAKER_00]: That's great.
01:00:16 --> 01:00:17 [SPEAKER_00]: He's been very productive for the Mariners.
01:00:18 --> 01:00:25 [SPEAKER_00]: But some of this underlying stuff, it just doesn't favor him going forward being that's this is going to like tilt over at some point.
01:00:26 --> 01:00:27 [SPEAKER_00]: It's getting hit a little hard.
01:00:27 --> 01:00:31 [SPEAKER_00]: His ground ball rate is in the bottom 15% of the entire league.
01:00:32 --> 01:00:36 [SPEAKER_00]: His hard hit rate is in the 31st percentile.
01:00:36 --> 01:00:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's only strikes out 20% of batters.
01:00:40 --> 01:00:44 [SPEAKER_01]: let me let me contextualize this more.
01:00:44 --> 01:00:50 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you were to look at the relievers in major league baseball last year that had the highest strikeouts per nine across the game.
01:00:51 --> 01:00:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to use 2025 just because you get more of a sample size and it's a full season paired with six or seven weeks so far in 2026.
01:00:59 --> 01:01:05 [SPEAKER_01]: But to use 25 here were the top 10 relievers in baseball in strikeouts per nine among relievers.
01:01:05 --> 01:01:17 [SPEAKER_01]: In order, Mason Miller, Griffin Jax, Jeremiah Strada, Brian Abrayu, Edwin Diaz, Devon Williams, Josh Hader, Kade Smith, Arralis Chapman, David Bednar.
01:01:18 --> 01:01:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I would call every single single one of those guys, leverage relievers.
01:01:23 --> 01:01:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Those guys dictate the outcomes of innings.
01:01:25 --> 01:01:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Ferrar and Bazarna rely a lot on balls put in play.
01:01:31 --> 01:01:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Does the reliever when he trots in from the bullpen make the other team go oh shit?
01:01:37 --> 01:01:38 [SPEAKER_01]: That's another way to judge it, too.
01:01:38 --> 01:01:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:01:40 --> 01:01:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Munoz is best, does that.
01:01:41 --> 01:01:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Who by the way, if you look at the Capri 9 last year, Munoz on this list sits 16 and Gabe Spire sits 17.
01:01:49 --> 01:01:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Both of those guys last year were on questioned lever germs.
01:01:55 --> 01:01:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Bizarro for air, not so much.
01:01:58 --> 01:01:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Good arms.
01:01:59 --> 01:02:02 [SPEAKER_00]: You can be a good arm in the bullpen, but not be a leverage arm.
01:02:02 --> 01:02:13 [SPEAKER_00]: The difference now is that Bizarro and frayer are leverage arms for the mariners, even if we don't view them as leverage arms, because there is no choice with the injuries in this bullpen.
01:02:13 --> 01:02:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:02:14 --> 01:02:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I will just say this as a last thing.
01:02:18 --> 01:02:24 [SPEAKER_01]: When we say the mariners are a leverage arm short, and they need another leverage arm at some point this season, if not multiple.
01:02:25 --> 01:02:27 [SPEAKER_01]: It is guys in that echelon that we mean.
01:02:28 --> 01:02:30 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not another Jose for air.
01:02:30 --> 01:02:34 [SPEAKER_01]: When they traded for Jose for air, it's fine to have that guy help your bullpen.
01:02:34 --> 01:02:35 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a lever, Jarm.
01:02:37 --> 01:02:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Joe on to ran as a lever, Jarm.
01:02:39 --> 01:02:40 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the type of guy we're targeting.
01:02:42 --> 01:02:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Final question of the male bed comes from Shanks on Twitter.
01:02:46 --> 01:02:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Shanks is question as, how much longer until we see Bren in Davis in Seattle?
01:02:51 --> 01:03:00 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a good question, man, and we haven't talked about him really since spring training, but he has been really hit in the ball and like lightening it up down in Triple A.
01:03:00 --> 01:03:09 [SPEAKER_01]: If you want his exact numbers, so we currently said, Brennan Davis has run it out in 973 OPS in Tacoma, and he's hit lefties.
01:03:09 --> 01:03:11 [SPEAKER_01]: But where would his spot on the roster be?
01:03:11 --> 01:03:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, unfortunately, it's probably either going to involve in injury.
01:03:16 --> 01:03:23 [SPEAKER_01]: or if a decision is made with Rob Ruff Snyder at some point in the next few weeks, because that's essentially what Brendan Davis's role would be.
01:03:23 --> 01:03:31 [SPEAKER_01]: He would probably take Ruff Snyder's role if Rob Ruff Snyder cannot figure it out at some point, or unless one of the outbuilders gets hurt.
01:03:32 --> 01:03:34 [SPEAKER_01]: So I would say around there.
01:03:35 --> 01:03:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
01:03:35 --> 01:03:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you.
01:03:36 --> 01:03:37 [SPEAKER_00]: He's been so good.
01:03:37 --> 01:03:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the only things about his profound Tacoma That would concern you and this has been something that has Bugged him for a little bit is that he strikes out a lot.
01:03:49 --> 01:03:53 [SPEAKER_00]: He swings and messes a lot But this dude does a ton of damage.
01:03:54 --> 01:03:58 [SPEAKER_00]: He's average eggs of velocity in Tacoma's over 93 miles an hour.
01:03:58 --> 01:04:01 [SPEAKER_00]: He is Crushing the ball
01:04:01 --> 01:04:06 [SPEAKER_00]: When he comes up to the big leagues, first of all, by the way, wow, he isn't debut, right?
01:04:08 --> 01:04:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I don't have no, thank you, he's debut.
01:04:11 --> 01:04:13 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, he hasn't.
01:04:13 --> 01:04:18 [SPEAKER_00]: So that'll be so cool for him, but we don't really know what he would be as a big leader.
01:04:18 --> 01:04:24 [SPEAKER_00]: He's been through a ton of up and down in the minor leagues.
01:04:25 --> 01:04:29 [SPEAKER_00]: He's now setting himself up that he will almost certainly debut this year.
01:04:29 --> 01:04:38 [SPEAKER_00]: He seems like the kind of guy that's going to hit some prestigious home runs at the big league level, but he's probably going to strike out.
01:04:40 --> 01:04:42 [SPEAKER_00]: 32% of the time if not more.
01:04:42 --> 01:04:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he's just a right hand version of Luke Rayleigh.
01:04:45 --> 01:04:47 [SPEAKER_00]: That much you think 32% that's a lot.
01:04:47 --> 01:04:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
01:04:48 --> 01:04:58 [SPEAKER_01]: He's he's got some swing of S. He for sure has swing of S, but I will I wonder can it be I don't know 27% rather than 32% that's a little one.
01:04:58 --> 01:05:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Striking out 24% of the time to come right now.
01:05:01 --> 01:05:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, that'll probably jump up a little bit.
01:05:03 --> 01:05:03 [UNKNOWN]: Yep.
01:05:03 --> 01:05:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would say more than probably 32, but it doesn't matter.
01:05:07 --> 01:05:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Like his value is going to come from the fact that he hits the ball really, really hard his defense.
01:05:12 --> 01:05:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they don't really have minor league defensive numbers.
01:05:14 --> 01:05:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Or at least we don't have minor league defensive numbers available to us.
01:05:19 --> 01:05:22 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, he'd probably just occupy corner outfield spot.
01:05:22 --> 01:05:28 [SPEAKER_00]: He would have the ref snutter or robless spot whenever that spot is available at some point this year.
01:05:28 --> 01:05:33 [SPEAKER_00]: I have a feeling that spot will be available, whether it be injury or DFA at some point.
01:05:35 --> 01:05:36 [SPEAKER_00]: That's probably right.
01:05:37 --> 01:05:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, good questions, man.
01:05:38 --> 01:05:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I said every week.
01:05:39 --> 01:05:40 [SPEAKER_01]: You guys always bring good questions.
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