Lyle and TJ react to the Mariners taking 2/3 against the Astros this weekend, venting a little frustration from a lackluster game three (2:30). They then dive into the discourse about Eugenio Suarez, the reported offer on the table from the Yankees, and the single reason why the Mariners need to trade for him (20:09).
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00:00 --> 00:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to episode number two, seventy of the Marine layer.
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01:09 --> 01:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just baseball podcast network recording on Sunday evening July, twentieth before I come in on any of the baseball stuff.
01:21 --> 01:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to give it up for the people.
01:23 --> 01:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to give it up for the people.
01:24 --> 01:27 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought the crowd this weekend at Timo Park was fantastic.
01:28 --> 01:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Think of how many people we met this weekend.
01:30 --> 01:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Would you agree?
01:31 --> 01:33 [SPEAKER_00]: We met some great people this weekend.
01:33 --> 01:34 [SPEAKER_00]: The volume was insane.
01:35 --> 01:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we met a lot of people.
01:37 --> 01:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
01:37 --> 01:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Was it that different from a usual weekend?
01:40 --> 01:46 [SPEAKER_00]: You know it helps, and why I want to give it up for the people, because we had our first post game live show at the Hall on Oxeno.
01:46 --> 01:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Post game live show on the day of a game, and the turnout was fucking awesome.
01:52 --> 01:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Excuse my language.
01:53 --> 01:54 [SPEAKER_00]: It was on, believable.
01:54 --> 01:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you not have fun shouting?
01:56 --> 01:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Ronald the Cunha Junior out on Oxeno Avenue.
01:59 --> 02:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I had a blast doing that.
02:01 --> 02:01 [SPEAKER_01]: That was great.
02:01 --> 02:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Another show is a blast, and that's the format of the show we really hope to do all along.
02:06 --> 02:09 [SPEAKER_01]: But now that Oxeno Hall is open,
02:10 --> 02:13 [SPEAKER_01]: It gives us the opportunity to do more of those and interact with a bunch of people.
02:14 --> 02:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, the show is a blast on Friday night.
02:16 --> 02:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully for more of you that are at weekend games, which we know is a lot of you that will keep doing these down the road.
02:23 --> 02:25 [SPEAKER_01]: You'll be around to show up to him because it was really fun.
02:25 --> 02:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is what we really hope to do going forward.
02:27 --> 02:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Shout-out to our intern Dylan Dylan show.
02:30 --> 02:31 [SPEAKER_00]: He got a photo of me.
02:31 --> 02:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I had the mic in one hand.
02:33 --> 02:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I was holding a can of corona screaming out at at at ox dental Avenue and I think that photo there.
02:39 --> 02:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'll tweet it out.
02:40 --> 02:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'll tweet it out tomorrow.
02:41 --> 02:46 [SPEAKER_00]: We we got some good pictures there that will showcase from the out from the show on Friday.
02:46 --> 02:56 [SPEAKER_00]: That just I think fully encapsulates the energy of the show we try to bring to these post game shows we'll have two more this season guys two more opportunities in season to come see us live.
02:57 --> 02:58 [SPEAKER_00]: It'll be at the Hall and Oxdental.
02:58 --> 03:07 [SPEAKER_00]: So I would really recommend coming to one of the next two if you want to see that in season at this point at and around the ballpark.
03:07 --> 03:08 [SPEAKER_00]: So that like that'll be fun.
03:08 --> 03:12 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think that energy right there very much encapsulates it and it was a lot of fun.
03:12 --> 03:15 [SPEAKER_00]: So it was the fun weekend at the ballpark and while the team did
03:17 --> 03:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say technically play well this is the this is the the weird part of
03:22 --> 03:27 [SPEAKER_00]: how the series is structured where the Mariners played by far the worst game of the series here on Sunday.
03:28 --> 03:47 [SPEAKER_00]: So when naturally when we do our reaction we're sitting there in the stands today with our friend Chase giving a reaction to a game of which the Mariners allowed eleven runs in which Brian was started which just kind of raises dry brow but it did take two or three from the Astros so that's where you sit and think okay should we be being this negative or
03:48 --> 03:51 [SPEAKER_00]: What if they won on Sunday and they had this game on Saturday instead?
03:51 --> 03:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Like there's all these other things that we can think about, I think about with this and how it works out.
03:56 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, today was in summary.
03:59 --> 03:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was not great.
04:00 --> 04:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Wait, which direction do you want me to go here?
04:03 --> 04:06 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a lot of thoughts all at once into a microphone.
04:07 --> 04:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's do today.
04:08 --> 04:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's do today.
04:10 --> 04:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not good.
04:12 --> 04:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Can you sit here and be that upset?
04:14 --> 04:19 [SPEAKER_01]: You can because, look, I'll say the same thing and I said in our reaction.
04:19 --> 04:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I will prep as everything I say, everything with, they won two or three.
04:24 --> 04:25 [SPEAKER_01]: They won the series.
04:25 --> 04:26 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a good weekend.
04:27 --> 04:33 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a very good weekend because the Mariners took two or three from a team that is above them, that they were chasing in the AL West.
04:33 --> 04:35 [SPEAKER_01]: They got off to a hot start in the second half.
04:36 --> 04:37 [SPEAKER_01]: They've won five of their last six.
04:38 --> 04:38 [SPEAKER_01]: All good things.
04:40 --> 04:45 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a chance to change their season here on Sunday, and they essentially let it go down the drain.
04:45 --> 04:54 [SPEAKER_01]: They had a three nothing lead, woo is dealing, and then they totally, totally flipped the script, and the Astros just went on an absolute surge.
04:54 --> 05:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you have every right to be mad with how that game went today, because four games back in two games back is a hell of a lot different for a team that hasn't won a division title in twenty four years.
05:04 --> 05:09 [SPEAKER_01]: If you are not happy with how that went today, and as a result, how the standings now shake out,
05:09 --> 05:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like like be mad.
05:11 --> 05:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.
05:12 --> 05:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I was not happy at the end of that game on Sunday.
05:15 --> 05:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's different commenting on this game at the end of July closer to the trade deadline as opposed to April.
05:20 --> 05:21 [SPEAKER_00]: So you mentioned the two games swing.
05:22 --> 05:26 [SPEAKER_00]: There's also the fact of we're staring at the season series with these two of the it comes down at the end of the season.
05:27 --> 05:45 [SPEAKER_00]: You want the tiebreaker with the Astros in case you have the same record as them and you want to you want to win the division instead of be a wild card team and you end up with the same roster, which by the way, I mean, the Astros suffered another injury this weekend in Esauk, for it is, and their manager comes out after the fact and says, yeah, his hamstring does not look very good at this point.
05:45 --> 05:53 [SPEAKER_00]: We're sitting there looking at this Astros lineup on Sunday and they can how in the world to the Mariners not catch this team at this point.
05:54 --> 06:11 [SPEAKER_00]: It makes it more realistic with some of the guys that are trotting out that the Mariners, if they play well, can go track this team down, which is why you need to take an opportunity when Brian Woos on the mound to not go and give out eleven runs and win a game on Sunday in which I think it's favorable and also think of the fact that, you know,
06:12 --> 06:16 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners did what they were supposed to do against Hunter Brown for some reason they keep hitting aces.
06:17 --> 06:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't understand why, but the best pitchers in baseball face this Mariners lineup and somewhat lose and the Mariners do their job and they jump on Hunter Brown early and they run his pitch count up and they score three early runs and it's looking great.
06:28 --> 06:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you would say an esach parade is less Houston Astros team scored eleven unanswered.
06:35 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Eleven.
06:36 --> 06:39 [SPEAKER_00]: The only thing missing from the game allow was a Cooper Hommel home run.
06:39 --> 06:40 [SPEAKER_00]: That was it.
06:41 --> 06:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Considering Christian Walker hit one and our guy Taylor Trimell hit one.
06:47 --> 06:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we were really only missing a Cooper humble home run.
06:50 --> 06:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, Shadow Trim, he had three of three.
06:53 --> 06:55 [SPEAKER_00]: He was three quarters of the way to the cycle.
06:56 --> 07:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And with three quarters of the way to a cycle and a walk, which by the way, I saw some people on Twitter, like, I saw some people on Twitter pissed off that he said he was playing with a chip on his shoulder this weekend.
07:09 --> 07:14 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're mad about that, like kick rocks, because what do you expect a player to do?
07:15 --> 07:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Every player has a chip on their shoulder when they go up against an old team.
07:18 --> 07:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Tailor trails should have a chip on his shoulder when he plays the Mariners.
07:21 --> 07:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Show them what he feels like they missed.
07:26 --> 07:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Show them that in his mind they made a mistake or in their mind try to make him feel like they made a mistake.
07:31 --> 07:32 [SPEAKER_01]: That's how you should play.
07:32 --> 07:34 [SPEAKER_01]: That's how athletes mind sets work.
07:34 --> 07:38 [SPEAKER_01]: No, you shouldn't be mad that Tailor Trimell said that because if that isn't enough,
07:39 --> 07:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Just so all you know, like Taylor Tremel is one of the all-time unbelievable dudes in the game of baseball.
07:46 --> 07:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it is, it is like almost jaw dropping how nice he is.
07:51 --> 07:53 [SPEAKER_01]: He is great with every person he interacts with.
07:53 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you guys want some fun podcast trivia, he is the very first player we ever got on a microphone.
08:00 --> 08:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Be first.
08:01 --> 08:04 [SPEAKER_00]: So he forever goes down in Marine Lair podcast lore.
08:04 --> 08:10 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you guys listen to the rest of that press conference he was giving or the the scrum of questions and the answer he gave with that.
08:11 --> 08:16 [SPEAKER_00]: He had nothing but nice things to say about everything about the org and the city and the fans.
08:17 --> 08:17 [SPEAKER_00]: He was complimenting.
08:19 --> 08:21 [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what we're getting out here.
08:21 --> 08:22 [SPEAKER_00]: He had a nice day.
08:22 --> 08:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Congratulations Taylor.
08:24 --> 08:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the team didn't take a chance on you.
08:26 --> 08:29 [SPEAKER_00]: A different team did take a chance on you and you made the old team pay.
08:29 --> 08:31 [SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly what you should do.
08:31 --> 08:33 [SPEAKER_00]: That is a hundred percent what you should do.
08:34 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a lot of guys who come to Seattle and have a chip on their shoulder.
08:37 --> 08:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you could it's been a while, right?
08:42 --> 08:44 [SPEAKER_00]: But like if Kattel Marta came out and said that,
08:46 --> 08:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably in like twenty seventeen twenty eighteen, but like would you blame him?
08:51 --> 08:52 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's the whole idea.
08:52 --> 08:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
08:53 --> 08:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Mitch Hanager if he played the Diamondbacks would say the exact same thing.
08:56 --> 08:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you guys didn't want me.
08:57 --> 08:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have a chip on my shoulder.
08:59 --> 09:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Bet you Gino felt that way when he played the Reds when the Mariners had him almost happened.
09:04 --> 09:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, I think Gino felt that way when he played the Mariners this year.
09:10 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_01]: we'll get to you know we'll save that we'll save that but absolutely they he was he had a chip on his shoulder every athlete feels like that again Taylor Tremel is an absolutely no wrong to say that for anybody that was on Twitter and again he is he's one of the nicest dudes you could ever meet like I don't care that he's an astro it is perfectly okay to continue rooting for Taylor Tremel we certainly well I mean he is an all-time friend of this podcast so
09:32 --> 09:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, anyway, game itself, I'm sorry, you can't blow that game.
09:37 --> 09:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think the point that you hit on that's absolutely right is the point in the year that we're at.
09:42 --> 09:48 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners only have three more games against the Astros, and it's not till middle to end of September.
09:48 --> 09:50 [SPEAKER_01]: It's their third to last series of the year.
09:50 --> 09:56 [SPEAKER_01]: They're in Houston, then they come home to play the Rockies, and they finish it home against the Dodgers, which God, what a hell of the last week.
09:57 --> 10:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean talk about the polar opposites.
10:00 --> 10:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean talk about going to play at the worst municipal golf course you could possibly find and then you turn around and then you go play at Augusta.
10:08 --> 10:09 [SPEAKER_01]: That is what their last week looks like.
10:10 --> 10:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Better clinch against the Rockies.
10:13 --> 10:16 [SPEAKER_01]: We're just hoping to hope the Dodgers rest literally everybody all weekend.
10:17 --> 10:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, you're now at a four game deficit instead of two.
10:22 --> 10:28 [SPEAKER_01]: He'll have a lot easier to make up a two game deficit over the next two months before you see Houston again, then sitting back at four games.
10:29 --> 10:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And yes, I know they're still in a wild card spot.
10:30 --> 10:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And yes, they should still go out at the deadline.
10:32 --> 10:35 [SPEAKER_01]: And yes, there is still a way the Mariners can catch Houston in the end.
10:36 --> 10:38 [SPEAKER_01]: But they made it a lot harder on themselves, man.
10:39 --> 10:45 [SPEAKER_01]: For a game where they were up three, hit Hunter Brown and could have just kept the foot on the pedal.
10:45 --> 10:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Would have been nice, obviously, to get more from Brian Wu and that game because he's pitched so well all year.
10:51 --> 10:56 [SPEAKER_01]: But there was also just, it was a defensive disaster class on day two.
10:58 --> 11:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I don't know what happened to JP Crawford there with that pop fly, but I mean, that kind of turned the tables.
11:06 --> 11:10 [SPEAKER_00]: And then how did it feel to finally get a Christian Walker tweet off?
11:12 --> 11:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, great.
11:14 --> 11:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you knew it was coming at some point.
11:16 --> 11:19 [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, Christian Walker here in the month of July has actually been really good.
11:19 --> 11:21 [SPEAKER_01]: So I know it's first half was not.
11:21 --> 11:24 [SPEAKER_01]: but don't be shocked if he turns stuff around the rest of the way.
11:25 --> 11:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Because he's not the one who hit like this.
11:27 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_01]: But yes, again, I can already see all the people in our comments, be like, oh, you're being so negative.
11:32 --> 11:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Why are you negative?
11:33 --> 11:36 [SPEAKER_01]: They won two of three, which is what people were saying on social media today too.
11:37 --> 11:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, that's why I preface all of this with they won two of three and it was a good weekend.
11:41 --> 11:41 [SPEAKER_01]: It was.
11:42 --> 11:43 [SPEAKER_01]: But you know what?
11:43 --> 11:45 [SPEAKER_01]: You had a chance to make this season altering.
11:46 --> 11:49 [SPEAKER_01]: totally change the course of your year and it was in the palm of your hands.
11:50 --> 11:59 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why I'm sitting here frustrated because all year you've been trailing Houston a team that you should have frankly jumped this year with the way their roster was with the way your team set up.
11:59 --> 12:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Now they of course didn't even come close to adding enough in the off season to really do that.
12:04 --> 12:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they'll do it at the deadline, but you still had your chance today and ultimately you did let it just go by the wayside.
12:12 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I've won more beef with the weekend.
12:14 --> 12:16 [SPEAKER_00]: You'll be shocked what the real beef is.
12:17 --> 12:19 [SPEAKER_00]: On Saturday, the bun.
12:19 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh god.
12:20 --> 12:39 [SPEAKER_00]: And okay, and people are gonna rush and before you rush to me and you get mad at me, can I just, can I just try and explain this in the most laments of terms that, that it's not, it's not just the fact, it's like a sacrifice button and extra innings if you're trying to get one run to tie the game.
12:39 --> 12:44 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's the whole thought process behind what's happening, right?
12:44 --> 12:47 [SPEAKER_00]: So you have Jorge Polanco at the plate at this moment in tenth inning on Saturday.
12:48 --> 12:52 [SPEAKER_00]: and Polanco decides with Dillon Moore who came out the bench by the way, hitting behind him.
12:53 --> 12:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Polanco decides to give up his bat to let Dillon Moore hit.
13:00 --> 13:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Does that make sense?
13:01 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Dillon Moore by the way, guys.
13:04 --> 13:05 [SPEAKER_00]: These are just the numbers.
13:05 --> 13:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Since May first, Dillon Moore's the ninth worst hitter in Major League Baseball.
13:11 --> 13:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Do I need to repeat myself?
13:13 --> 13:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Dillon Moore since May first is the ninth worst hitter in Major League Baseball.
13:18 --> 13:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Why are the manners forcing him to get in that bat to tie a game?
13:23 --> 13:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I know it worked out, quote unquote, it worked out because the ball hit the knob of his bat as he's trying to get out of the way and it happened to go in fair territory.
13:32 --> 13:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
13:34 --> 13:36 [SPEAKER_00]: The result was positive.
13:36 --> 13:37 [SPEAKER_00]: The process was not.
13:38 --> 13:40 [SPEAKER_00]: There's nothing positive about the process at all.
13:41 --> 13:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't wrap my head around why that was man.
13:45 --> 13:47 [SPEAKER_00]: That was sheer dumb luck.
13:47 --> 13:48 [SPEAKER_00]: It was luck.
13:48 --> 13:51 [SPEAKER_00]: And I get, look, sometimes you have to get lucky.
13:51 --> 13:54 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners are probably one of the unlookiest franchises in sports history.
13:55 --> 13:57 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why they've never, they've never done all these things.
13:58 --> 14:09 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's great that you get some luck, but that doesn't mean like the decisions which a human actually makes, whether it was Dan or Polanco who ended up deciding to put that rundown, we've heard it could be either.
14:10 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that doesn't mean that's good.
14:12 --> 14:14 [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't mean that's the right idea.
14:14 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I could not.
14:15 --> 14:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I could not get over that.
14:16 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't.
14:17 --> 14:19 [SPEAKER_01]: These are also just the numbers.
14:19 --> 14:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Jorge Polanco in the month of July has a ten forty seven OPS.
14:24 --> 14:27 [SPEAKER_01]: That was, that was in the middle of Sunday's game.
14:27 --> 14:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I believe because he got another head.
14:28 --> 14:31 [SPEAKER_01]: He drove in a couple and he up to Zopias.
14:31 --> 14:33 [SPEAKER_01]: So point being is OPS in July is way over a thousand.
14:34 --> 14:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Dylan Moore has been one of the nine worst hitters in baseball over the last two and a half months.
14:39 --> 14:43 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no sound process for that bun.
14:43 --> 14:44 [SPEAKER_01]: No, zero.
14:45 --> 14:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad Cole Young got the hit.
14:46 --> 14:47 [SPEAKER_01]: He clutched up.
14:47 --> 14:47 [SPEAKER_01]: That was awesome.
14:48 --> 14:50 [SPEAKER_01]: That was the best moment of his young career.
14:51 --> 14:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And he got the Mariners win.
14:53 --> 14:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Guess what?
14:55 --> 14:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Cole Young gets that hit anyway.
14:57 --> 14:59 [SPEAKER_01]: And the runner still scores from second.
14:59 --> 14:59 [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have to score from third.
15:00 --> 15:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait, sorry, sorry, sorry.
15:01 --> 15:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking of an, this bun was in an ining prior.
15:03 --> 15:04 [SPEAKER_01]: It was in the tenth inning.
15:04 --> 15:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, scratch that.
15:05 --> 15:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Cole Young's hit was in the eleventh.
15:06 --> 15:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
15:07 --> 15:08 [SPEAKER_01]: For Jorge Polonko to do that,
15:09 --> 15:13 [SPEAKER_01]: was crazy, and I don't know if it was him or it was Dan.
15:13 --> 15:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I could buy in that it was very much either.
15:16 --> 15:25 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you want me to keep praise on some decision making, like I actually thought the bullpen decision making at that point of the game was correct.
15:25 --> 15:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Instead of using brash when they were behind, they used brash in the tenth inning with a runner on second base, which I'd prefer, because you need the swing and miss stuff on the mound.
15:34 --> 16:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's important in extra innings though I know brash gave up run although I thought the idea of that was right but he gave up the inherited runner it wasn't really his run so that's it so his he already didn't go up but I did think that the idea of it was right although you can't plan for a game to go to extra innings right like they used bazzardo in the eighth and it worked which is fine and it worked for this case because brash pitched in the tenth but usually when you want brash there in the eighth but they were behind
16:05 --> 16:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're right.
16:05 --> 16:06 [SPEAKER_01]: They were behind in that game.
16:06 --> 16:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
16:06 --> 16:08 [SPEAKER_01]: So, so you're right.
16:08 --> 16:12 [SPEAKER_01]: So the decisions that got made this weekend, bullpen-wise, we're actually okay.
16:13 --> 16:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Fine.
16:14 --> 16:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I just can't with the bun.
16:15 --> 16:16 [SPEAKER_01]: It just doesn't make any sense.
16:17 --> 16:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
16:18 --> 16:18 [SPEAKER_01]: No, not at all.
16:19 --> 16:22 [SPEAKER_01]: There's zero, zero reason that you ever be having.
16:22 --> 16:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Buns should never be dropped in general, like the two of us talk about.
16:25 --> 16:27 [SPEAKER_01]: But to see that,
16:28 --> 16:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Good Lord.
16:29 --> 16:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's keep a little bit of praise here, since they did win two of three.
16:32 --> 16:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I know that's why we promised all this, but they won two of three.
16:36 --> 16:37 [SPEAKER_01]: We said it was a good weekend.
16:37 --> 16:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Call young awesome.
16:38 --> 16:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you can still, well, he's got to deal dealt.
16:40 --> 16:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's good things from this weekend.
16:42 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, Dom keeps hitting.
16:45 --> 16:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.
16:46 --> 16:46 [SPEAKER_00]: There he does.
16:48 --> 16:48 [SPEAKER_00]: How?
16:49 --> 16:49 [SPEAKER_00]: How?
16:50 --> 16:55 [SPEAKER_00]: This is going to be a conversation as we get up to the deadline, like his value is about as high as it's ever been.
16:56 --> 16:56 [SPEAKER_00]: How do you weigh?
16:58 --> 17:07 [SPEAKER_00]: whether or not you want you want you believe in this continuing long term you want to keep on the roster or you capitalize is value being at its highest.
17:08 --> 17:09 [SPEAKER_00]: How do you bounce that?
17:10 --> 17:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think it's pretty simple.
17:12 --> 17:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's your starting Kyle Tucker this winter so you trade them.
17:16 --> 17:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Hard argue with that one.
17:17 --> 17:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
17:18 --> 17:20 [SPEAKER_01]: There is it is because there's no argument to it.
17:21 --> 17:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway,
17:23 --> 17:27 [SPEAKER_00]: It is something you're going to have to balance.
17:27 --> 17:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think either argument is perfectly sound.
17:29 --> 17:46 [SPEAKER_01]: If you believe that this is fully real going forward and you think Dom can keep some level of this up for years to come, not that he has to hit three ten, but if he's going to hit the ball hard, if he's going to keep putting the ball out of the ballpark consistently, if he's going to OPS somewhere around the seven eighty-eight hundred mark,
17:47 --> 17:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Then yeah, you keep them because he's got all this club control and he's still young enough.
17:51 --> 17:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, he's twenty seven and he's not going anywhere.
17:54 --> 18:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Some guys just blossom late, but there's a very real world where the mariners say, you know what, some team would be interested in this value now.
18:02 --> 18:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we can use him in a trade package to get something that they feel like is even more substantial.
18:07 --> 18:16 [SPEAKER_01]: If they were to trade him in a prospect somewhere to get Felix Patista to get Yo Andaran, I could certainly have my ears open to that.
18:17 --> 18:17 [UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
18:18 --> 18:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.
18:20 --> 18:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and maybe it have to be a good prospect if you're getting someone of that caliber, but that's the big league piece you said along there.
18:27 --> 18:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm in the camp of while his values highest, I think, because there are still some things with Dom that you can see pretty clearly still swings very much out of the strike zone a lot.
18:42 --> 18:47 [SPEAKER_01]: To answer your question, yes, you are going to have to trade a real prospect if he is packaged in a deal.
18:47 --> 18:54 [SPEAKER_01]: This is not me saying you're trading Dom canzone and some prospect in the twenties for the Mariners to go get Felix Patista.
18:54 --> 19:00 [SPEAKER_01]: No, you would have to trade canzone and another high end guy.
19:00 --> 19:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe canzone, Harry Ford, and another prospect to get somebody like Felix Patista or to get you on to run.
19:07 --> 19:08 [SPEAKER_01]: But that doesn't mean it's not
19:09 --> 19:10 [SPEAKER_01]: a plausible thought either.
19:10 --> 19:21 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, again, I can hear both sides of this argument, but you are right that the downside to Cannesown is he does still really chase some interesting pitches.
19:22 --> 19:26 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, I need one last answer from you before we get to this Gino discourse.
19:27 --> 19:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Cal didn't Homer all weekend.
19:29 --> 19:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Is he cooked?
19:31 --> 19:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
19:33 --> 19:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Derby ruined him.
19:35 --> 19:36 [SPEAKER_00]: It's over, everybody.
19:37 --> 19:37 [SPEAKER_00]: It's over.
19:39 --> 19:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think he's going to be all right.
19:41 --> 19:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Just think all the people were right.
19:43 --> 19:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I think just the hunch, Carol, I was going to be okay.
19:46 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Funny enough, he had his first non-home run hit of July this weekend.
19:52 --> 19:53 [SPEAKER_00]: That's someone say he's shortening back up.
19:54 --> 19:58 [SPEAKER_01]: That is actually crazy that all his home runs in July were only homers.
19:58 --> 19:59 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
20:01 --> 20:03 [SPEAKER_00]: And his stats didn't suffer at all.
20:03 --> 20:05 [SPEAKER_00]: They stayed pretty much the same.
20:06 --> 20:08 [SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like batting average is stupid.
20:08 --> 20:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I think that's actually think that's pretty good segue.
20:12 --> 20:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow batting average being stupid.
20:14 --> 20:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's get to this genome conversation.
20:16 --> 20:18 [SPEAKER_00]: That has been happening a little bit over the weekend.
20:18 --> 20:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the number one conversation you and I had at the ballpark with fans over the weekend was about A. O. N. Oswaris.
20:26 --> 20:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Most of the people we talk to in person.
20:29 --> 20:31 [SPEAKER_00]: want genome, think genome makes a lot of sense.
20:32 --> 20:36 [SPEAKER_00]: There are some people who might want another position more, but no one hates genome at this point.
20:37 --> 20:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you can find a good majority of mariner fans who want A-O-Henioshores back with the mariners.
20:43 --> 20:45 [SPEAKER_00]: This thing starting to pick up it feels like.
20:45 --> 20:52 [SPEAKER_00]: It does feel like as Gino continues to go out and slug which this weekend, by the way, he hit four home runs.
20:53 --> 20:57 [SPEAKER_00]: He had two home runs on Saturday and he had two home runs recording here today on Sunday.
20:57 --> 20:59 [SPEAKER_00]: He has thirty five home runs on the season.
21:01 --> 21:02 [SPEAKER_00]: an incredible mark for Gino.
21:03 --> 21:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's like kicking up the snowball a little bit on his trade value and you know, I'm sure the Mariners are keeping on it.
21:10 --> 21:13 [SPEAKER_00]: But the other teams are putting together their packages too.
21:13 --> 21:17 [SPEAKER_00]: It is it's getting down to time where they got to start like really thinking about this.
21:18 --> 21:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's already a package on table for genome.
21:20 --> 21:21 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not from the Mariners.
21:22 --> 21:28 [SPEAKER_01]: So let me just give proper credit to the Yankees Spanish radio broadcaster because this was tweeted out today.
21:28 --> 21:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Or this was reported today.
21:29 --> 21:36 [SPEAKER_01]: But Ricky Ricardo, who's the Spanish radio voice of the Yankees, said that there's a proposal on the table.
21:37 --> 21:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Five Yankees prospects.
21:39 --> 21:45 [SPEAKER_01]: are on the table for a package of Mara Kelly, Gino, and Jalen Beaks.
21:45 --> 21:46 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a hell of a package.
21:46 --> 21:55 [SPEAKER_01]: The Yankees would be trying to get in a hall to upgrade their roster, which the Yankees, as we're seeing, are very serious about making some real upgrades at the deadline.
21:55 --> 22:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, the five prospects, it doesn't involve George Lumbard, who's their top prospects, and it doesn't involve Spencer Jones, who's had, who's been one of their top prospects for a couple of years now, and hits for real power, and he's been on a real surge in the miners right now.
22:08 --> 22:14 [SPEAKER_01]: But the point being, other teams are starting to get in on this, and the Yankees may be the team the Mariners have to compete with the hardest to get genome.
22:15 --> 22:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So, if they're really starting to put operas on the table, and it reportedly includes Camp Schlittler, who was dominating the Mariners during that Yankees series, the Mariners, man, I hope they're getting going, because other teams are.
22:31 --> 22:34 [SPEAKER_00]: What's no worthy about that package, consider the volume.
22:35 --> 22:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Five prospects for three rentals.
22:38 --> 22:44 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what it is, including a big league of, well, prospect but big league arm, given that he's thrown in the big leagues this season.
22:45 --> 22:47 [SPEAKER_00]: That is somewhat of a measuring mark.
22:48 --> 22:49 [SPEAKER_00]: for what the Mariners would have to give up.
22:50 --> 22:55 [SPEAKER_00]: If in the Mariners world, they would probably be going after Nailer and Geno.
22:55 --> 23:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Geno first, but if they're going to package them both together, they're going to try and get Nailer and Geno from the Diamondbacks, right?
23:04 --> 23:09 [SPEAKER_01]: You would say, yeah, although I feel like the Mariners may not even have to give up
23:10 --> 23:20 [SPEAKER_01]: that much to go get both of them compared to what the Yankees are reportedly offering, because to get big leagues starting pitching, especially somebody of the caliber of Merrill Kelly, that costs a lot.
23:21 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're trying to get these guys in a package.
23:23 --> 23:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So I feel like the Yankees might have to pay more in this deal than the Mariners would for Naylor and Gino, just because Merrill Kelly is so highly value.
23:30 --> 23:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's got a good year as usual too.
23:32 --> 23:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So the Mariners will have to pay, but
23:37 --> 23:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe not this much.
23:38 --> 23:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Also keep in mind while the Yankees have five prospects on the table.
23:42 --> 23:43 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not their absolute blue chippers.
23:43 --> 23:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, it's not George Lombard.
23:45 --> 23:46 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not Spencer Jones.
23:47 --> 23:52 [SPEAKER_01]: So you're not going to have to trade Colt Emerson or Johnny Farmello for these guys.
23:54 --> 23:58 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think so either, but our friend, JJ on Mariners, Twitter made a solid point.
23:58 --> 24:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Think about this from the Diamondbacks perspective.
24:01 --> 24:03 [SPEAKER_00]: They right now have two baths that are impending free agents.
24:04 --> 24:08 [SPEAKER_00]: When free agents leave your team, you can extend them qualifying offer.
24:10 --> 24:19 [SPEAKER_00]: and the player's good, they'll reject the qualifying offer and you get a draft pick that will become a prospect and the draft pick can either be at the end of the first round or the end of the second round.
24:19 --> 24:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Regardless, it's like Luke Stevenson, for example, that is in that slot of picks is where you get for Gino and Josh Nailer.
24:28 --> 24:31 [SPEAKER_00]: That's sort of the level of player they're looking for.
24:31 --> 24:35 [SPEAKER_00]: They're like, okay, we have these assets that we will have if we keep these players and let them walk,
24:36 --> 24:40 [SPEAKER_00]: You need to give us this equivalent amount if you want them from us.
24:40 --> 24:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, we get our prospects anyways.
24:43 --> 24:45 [SPEAKER_00]: So the idea, JJ was throwing out.
24:45 --> 24:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you said, it's not, might not take the volume of prospects to go get Gino in Josh Nailer.
24:51 --> 24:54 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners will not have to send five prospects to the Diamondbacks to make that work.
24:55 --> 24:57 [SPEAKER_00]: It'll be two or three, I would think.
24:58 --> 25:00 [SPEAKER_00]: But JJ was throwing out an idea here.
25:01 --> 25:04 [SPEAKER_00]: about what the Mariners could possibly do to go get the both of them.
25:05 --> 25:08 [SPEAKER_00]: He suggests the Mariners to get that value.
25:09 --> 25:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Send Darangelo.
25:12 --> 25:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to try and pronounce this picture's name right.
25:16 --> 25:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it she's she's Shen?
25:18 --> 25:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Is that right?
25:18 --> 25:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it close?
25:20 --> 25:23 [SPEAKER_00]: It's he's an arm in the low minors.
25:23 --> 25:26 [SPEAKER_00]: A Japanese arm in the low minors for the Mariners and a victim.
25:26 --> 25:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty good.
25:27 --> 25:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's been pretty good.
25:29 --> 25:31 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's the blue chip Darangelo.
25:32 --> 25:37 [SPEAKER_00]: A lower level prospect and then another lower lower level prospect in Lebrada.
25:39 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_00]: that off the idea of the the compensation of it, the value comes from derangelo to get them to say yes again, you need to you need to outbid teams at this moment.
25:50 --> 25:57 [SPEAKER_00]: You need to flash something in front of them that keeps their eyes on you and is not looking at the Yankees package of five prospects.
25:58 --> 25:59 [SPEAKER_00]: at this point.
25:59 --> 26:01 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's why you float to range all out there.
26:02 --> 26:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And there's, you know, some thinking behind why to range all might be in there.
26:05 --> 26:13 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's just an example, Jake, throughout there of what kind of prospect the Mariners might have to part with if you're going to go after both of them.
26:15 --> 26:16 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's funny.
26:16 --> 26:19 [SPEAKER_01]: We have not much of a chance to talk about this idea.
26:19 --> 26:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that Kate Anderson is into the fold, but
26:23 --> 26:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, I'm not saying I want to trade him away like I'm looking forward to it.
26:27 --> 26:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not because he's a really exciting prospect.
26:30 --> 26:38 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm surprised even over the last week, we haven't started to think more about the idea of derangelo getting traded because it makes sense.
26:39 --> 26:41 [SPEAKER_01]: It makes sense for a couple reasons, right?
26:41 --> 26:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Number one, we know the Diamondbacks are looking for young, big league pitching in exchange for some of the pieces that may sell.
26:48 --> 26:50 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what they are seeking.
26:50 --> 26:51 [SPEAKER_01]: They want young,
26:52 --> 26:54 [SPEAKER_01]: starting, they want young starting pitching.
26:54 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure they love young big league starting pitching, but young starting pitching in general.
26:58 --> 27:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And look, to Angela could get up by next year, he could be ready by at some point in twenty twenty six.
27:03 --> 27:05 [SPEAKER_01]: So he wouldn't be that far away for the Diamondbacks.
27:05 --> 27:06 [SPEAKER_01]: That's point number one.
27:07 --> 27:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Point number two is that if you're going to pick between Ryan Sloan and Jorangelo, I don't say this off certainty, like I don't have any sources behind this, but it feels to me like the organization values Ryan Sloan at this point higher than Jorangelo's Sanger.
27:22 --> 27:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of third-party outlets, prospect rankers, evaluators,
27:26 --> 27:41 [SPEAKER_01]: value Ryan Sloan more to think he is the much higher upside think he's got the better chance to be a star pitcher in the big leagues like his stuff better so if that's the case there's two points right in front of you and then we get to point number three right point number three being
27:42 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Look at the starting five in the Mariners rotation and wear their club control sits.
27:47 --> 27:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Luis Castillo has two and a half years of club control and a vesting option in twenty twenty eight, even twenty seventy throws a hundred and eighty innings.
27:55 --> 27:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's got club control.
27:57 --> 28:01 [SPEAKER_01]: George Kirby will be a free agent after twenty twenty eight.
28:02 --> 28:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Logan Gilbert would be a free agent after twenty twenty seven.
28:05 --> 28:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Bryce Miller would be a free agent after twenty twenty nine.
28:11 --> 28:22 [SPEAKER_01]: and Brian Wu would basically be on that same timetable, I believe, maybe he's a year behind because Bryce, no, no, I think they both seem to be the same.
28:23 --> 28:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I think you're right.
28:24 --> 28:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So point being, Bryce Miller and Brian Wu would be free agent, essentially after, twenty twenty nine.
28:30 --> 28:33 [SPEAKER_01]: In other words, that's a long time.
28:33 --> 28:34 [SPEAKER_01]: All these guys are under club control.
28:35 --> 28:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you want to add Logan Evans to that, he'd
28:38 --> 28:40 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, his service clock just started this year.
28:41 --> 28:43 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's got six more years of club control.
28:44 --> 28:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you factor Kate Anderson into it and his six years of control when he eventually gets here.
28:49 --> 28:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Where does that really leave Jorangelo?
28:53 --> 29:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I hope in some way or another, it it works out that he's in the big leagues and he's a number two starter for them and he's dominating and he looks awesome.
29:01 --> 29:04 [SPEAKER_01]: There's also a world there's legitimately no room.
29:04 --> 29:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And if that's the case,
29:06 --> 29:08 [SPEAKER_01]: then he becomes a potential trade piece, too.
29:08 --> 29:12 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that is further elevated now with the selection of Kate Anderson.
29:13 --> 29:18 [SPEAKER_01]: And if that's true, then it makes a lot of sense that you could deal him in a package for Naylor and Gino.
29:20 --> 29:27 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it has less to do with like future rotation spots and more just they have a lot of really good prospects.
29:27 --> 29:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, you don't feel quite as bad trading on.
29:31 --> 29:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, but you're not going to one, you're not going to trade Kate Anderson.
29:34 --> 29:41 [SPEAKER_00]: And two, if it's between Jorangelo and Sloan, you wouldn't trade Kate Anderson for Geno and Josh Nailer.
29:41 --> 29:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
29:42 --> 29:42 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
29:42 --> 29:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you wouldn't do that.
29:44 --> 29:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, there are always players you could trade Kate Anderson for.
29:47 --> 29:48 [SPEAKER_00]: They just might not be available.
29:48 --> 29:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Well great if if if the Americans were going to go get Ronald Acunia like that's a different story.
29:56 --> 30:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it would I'd be pretty surprised if he was traded and if he was traded he'd have to be a player to me name later because you can't get traded right after you draft it anyway there has to be some time the passes so point being
30:08 --> 30:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Those are three very valid reasons there.
30:11 --> 30:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Why the idea of trading jarangelo might make some sense.
30:14 --> 30:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And guess what?
30:15 --> 30:19 [SPEAKER_01]: If you feel like that's a hefty package for two rentals, maybe you're right.
30:19 --> 30:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it is.
30:20 --> 30:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you don't like the idea of giving up a future number two level starter potentially for two rentals.
30:27 --> 30:27 [SPEAKER_01]: But guess what?
30:28 --> 30:30 [SPEAKER_01]: You are going to have to overpay at some point.
30:30 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_01]: If you want these players on your team, you have to find some way to get the dynamics to say yes to you, rather than the Yankees, rather than the Astros with parades going down.
30:41 --> 30:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, grab it.
30:42 --> 30:44 [SPEAKER_01]: rather than about that for a second.
30:44 --> 30:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we can get to that here in a minute, but rather than the cubs, rather than the fillies, because Alec Bomes not having an otherworldly year at their base.
30:53 --> 30:57 [SPEAKER_01]: The point being, there are true contenders that are going to be in on genome.
30:57 --> 31:03 [SPEAKER_01]: So you have to figure out how you get the dynamics to say yet, yes, to not just trading him, but packaging him with nailer.
31:03 --> 31:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And the idea of derangelo of Sanger in a trade might make some sense.
31:07 --> 31:09 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're uncomfortable with it, I understand.
31:10 --> 31:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I also say you have to go for it at some point.
31:14 --> 31:30 [SPEAKER_01]: The reason the reason I the last thing the reason I highlight all the club control of those pitchers is for all the people that are Prospect tuggers out there that say they don't want to give up anybody I don't want to give up this guy I don't want to give up that guy I don't want to give up that guy well It's okay if you want them in your organization I get it again.
31:30 --> 31:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Drangel is exciting, but you factor in the five in the rotation right now You factor in Logan Evans and you factor in Kate Anderson when he eventually gets here where do the puzzle pieces?
31:42 --> 31:44 [SPEAKER_01]: potentially fit for Sanjay, if he stays.
31:44 --> 31:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying it can.
31:45 --> 31:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm also saying there's a lot of pitching that with guys that need innings.
31:50 --> 31:53 [SPEAKER_00]: And there aren't guys like Gino and Nailer otherwise available.
31:54 --> 31:58 [SPEAKER_00]: The caliber of those players, like they are the best first basement and third basement on the block.
31:59 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you want them, you are gonna have to pay for them.
32:02 --> 32:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I do have one more point to make, but before that, what are we doing if the Houston Astros acquired Gino?
32:11 --> 32:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Can you stall for a minute on that?
32:13 --> 32:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I have an answer.
32:13 --> 32:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
32:15 --> 32:18 [SPEAKER_00]: So the the background of it as we mentioned mentioned earlier.
32:18 --> 32:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Esauk parade is had a pretty nasty hamstring injury pretty nasty hamstring injury his a spot of the manager said.
32:26 --> 32:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it does not look good.
32:28 --> 32:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the time table for parade is is and I don't think they want genome for like years and years and years.
32:35 --> 32:38 [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think it'd be the craziest thing if you like tore your hamstring.
32:39 --> 32:42 [SPEAKER_00]: that you are going to be out for the rest of the season at this point.
32:42 --> 32:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, they would go out there and get genome and all of a sudden make sense.
32:46 --> 32:56 [SPEAKER_00]: What would annoy me the most is the Astros farm system legitimately stinks like cam Smith when they traded from the soft seas when they traded Tucker was, I think, one of their only real prize prospects.
32:56 --> 33:22 [SPEAKER_00]: and uh... Xavier Nyan so they just drafted a kid local kid out of Washington the state of Washington is already their number one prospect in their system because it's just not a very strong system and it's like you're telling you that team out bids you for genome that's going to directly hurt you this year like it would it would drive me insane okay good with a stall we got enough time here's what we're going to do if the Houston astros trait per a u helio swara's
33:37 --> 33:45 [SPEAKER_01]: And for those who are not watching on YouTube, you should be, we are turning into Frank the Tank if the Astros outbid the Mariners for Gino.
33:45 --> 33:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I will literally lose my shit if I see that go down.
33:51 --> 33:52 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
33:52 --> 33:56 [SPEAKER_01]: You said it earlier in a text to me, so I'll just say it here for everybody listening.
33:58 --> 34:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll want up even further than just the Astros trading for Gino.
34:02 --> 34:06 [SPEAKER_01]: if the mariners do not trade back for you any oswaris and get them on their roster.
34:07 --> 34:10 [SPEAKER_01]: That is a total abject failure by the front office.
34:11 --> 34:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Because we haven't even spent much time on this episode, hashing out how ridiculous that trade looks at this point, which it does.
34:18 --> 34:26 [SPEAKER_01]: But if you then allow him to go somewhere else and not get his services back in Seattle at a position of absolute need,
34:27 --> 34:28 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to look ridiculous.
34:29 --> 34:33 [SPEAKER_00]: And you just rattle off the reasons like why the trade makes sense.
34:33 --> 34:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, number one, Mariners have an oppressing need at third base for offense of production.
34:37 --> 34:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Ben Ben's good defensively over there, but they need offense at third base.
34:41 --> 34:42 [SPEAKER_00]: That's number one.
34:42 --> 34:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Number two, Gino loved playing here and he really enjoyed the teammates he had here.
34:48 --> 34:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Julio.
34:49 --> 34:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Cal, did we see that hug?
34:50 --> 34:51 [SPEAKER_00]: He gave Cal, it all star week.
34:51 --> 34:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Did we see that hug?
34:53 --> 34:55 [SPEAKER_00]: How does it work out any better than that?
34:55 --> 34:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and then also, nobody has more trade ammo than you.
35:00 --> 35:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Need fit ammo.
35:04 --> 35:10 [SPEAKER_00]: How do you let yourself finish and not finish in first if you have all three of those and they'd banish over everybody else?
35:11 --> 35:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's never played in New York.
35:14 --> 35:15 [SPEAKER_00]: He's never played in Philadelphia.
35:17 --> 35:20 [SPEAKER_00]: But he has played here, and man, all he did was be highly of it.
35:20 --> 35:21 [SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
35:22 --> 35:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he also said it all star week.
35:24 --> 35:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Part of my heart is still in Seattle, which what it turned around a quotes from former Mariners this year at all star week.
35:29 --> 35:33 [SPEAKER_01]: He went from Tayosker Hernandez last year to saying, that matters.
35:33 --> 35:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I sucks.
35:34 --> 35:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I hated hitting in Seattle to Gino saying, I love Seattle.
35:38 --> 35:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
35:39 --> 35:45 [SPEAKER_01]: In you said, I know you just kind of stumbled your words there for a second, but if you don't finish in first,
35:46 --> 35:48 [SPEAKER_01]: your last, as Ricky Bobby or his Reese Bobby would say.
35:49 --> 35:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Because if you don't trade for Gino here, you ain't first your last.
35:52 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_01]: It's that simple.
35:53 --> 35:58 [SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, for all the logical reasons you just outlined for why the trade mix makes sense.
35:59 --> 36:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, just speaking is a fan here.
36:02 --> 36:05 [SPEAKER_01]: We are OG now at this point.
36:06 --> 36:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, honestly, a service is due and warranted back to the fans for how this trade went down when they dealt them away.
36:15 --> 36:16 [SPEAKER_01]: They owe us.
36:17 --> 36:18 [SPEAKER_01]: They dealt him away.
36:18 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_01]: He went off for two years.
36:20 --> 36:26 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners combined for no offensive production at third base the last year and a half.
36:26 --> 36:27 [SPEAKER_01]: They owe the fans to get him back.
36:29 --> 36:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Josh Rojas, I mean, look, all credit to his defense similar to Ben Williamson.
36:34 --> 36:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, no offense after the month of April, really after the first six weeks.
36:40 --> 36:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Mariners third so people always people say the process for for trading geno is because he had a down year in twenty twenty three.
36:48 --> 36:55 [SPEAKER_00]: John Gino in twenty twenty three was more valuable than the combined value of Mariners third basements since they traded him.
36:59 --> 37:05 [SPEAKER_01]: He also has doubled the amount of home runs hit by Mariners third baseman over the last year and a half this year.
37:09 --> 37:11 [SPEAKER_01]: It's fine, it's fine.
37:11 --> 37:15 [SPEAKER_01]: They needed to trade them away to dump his money, which let's be real.
37:15 --> 37:16 [SPEAKER_01]: They can say they thought he was cooked.
37:17 --> 37:18 [SPEAKER_01]: They can say they thought he was going downhill.
37:19 --> 37:20 [SPEAKER_01]: No, they salary dumped his contract.
37:20 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what they did.
37:21 --> 37:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And then to make it even better, they took his money and gave it to Mitch Garver instead.
37:27 --> 37:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Mitch Garver, Louis, Serious, and Joshua Hawes.
37:30 --> 37:31 [SPEAKER_00]: That worked out really well.
37:32 --> 37:36 [SPEAKER_00]: See, it's okay to save the money if you go and spend it in a better place and they did not.
37:36 --> 37:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
37:38 --> 37:44 [SPEAKER_00]: And then they went, then they did still spend money on third base and just got dog shit production.
37:45 --> 37:50 [SPEAKER_01]: The Louise area stuff really probably deserves more driving through the mud.
37:50 --> 37:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Like that, that is much more on the Leotie Taveras line than we give it credit for because again.
37:55 --> 37:57 [SPEAKER_01]: The guy was given five million bucks last year.
37:58 --> 38:02 [SPEAKER_01]: He played forty games in the big leagues, and it's not for injuries.
38:03 --> 38:05 [SPEAKER_01]: If he had been injured most of the year, what can you do?
38:05 --> 38:06 [SPEAKER_01]: The guy would have gotten injured.
38:06 --> 38:11 [SPEAKER_01]: No, he was so bad they sent him to the miners basically all year, and you gave him five million bucks.
38:11 --> 38:14 [SPEAKER_01]: It is Leotie Severus multiple years in a row.
38:16 --> 38:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so this is why this doesn't make any sense.
38:18 --> 38:21 [SPEAKER_01]: You say you want to salary dump his contract and you can't pay him.
38:22 --> 38:23 [SPEAKER_01]: So you salary dump it.
38:24 --> 38:26 [SPEAKER_01]: But then you take the same money and it's just like, oh, we're going to sign Garver.
38:26 --> 38:27 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to sign areas.
38:27 --> 38:28 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll give it to Rojas.
38:28 --> 38:37 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well, and well, then it was the we're going to cut down on strikeouts and then they strike out more than any mariner team ever has struck out.
38:38 --> 38:39 [SPEAKER_01]: So let me say this again.
38:40 --> 38:42 [SPEAKER_01]: This fan base is OGNO.
38:42 --> 38:48 [SPEAKER_01]: They're OGNO for all of that shit that just went down through that trade and the results you got.
38:48 --> 38:54 [SPEAKER_01]: This team had two guys in twenty twenty three that struck out over two hundred times in Gino and Teaskar.
38:56 --> 38:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Two guys, by the way, there's never been a team that's had that.
38:59 --> 39:05 [SPEAKER_01]: The twenty twenty three mariners are the only team to ever have two guys on a roster, strike out more than two hundred times in a year.
39:05 --> 39:12 [SPEAKER_01]: They say they want to cut down on strikeouts after that, and it goes up and you lose Geno.
39:13 --> 39:14 [SPEAKER_01]: This fan base was O'Gino.
39:15 --> 39:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Guess what?
39:16 --> 39:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a professional fan.
39:17 --> 39:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I have no problem speaking this into existence.
39:21 --> 39:25 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is what I always say to people when we're walking up to this trade.
39:26 --> 39:28 [SPEAKER_00]: And you're worried about prospects too, because I did have a prospect point.
39:28 --> 39:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I still wanted to get in there while we were on that subject.
39:30 --> 39:35 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'll just bring it up now of all of the trades that Jerry DePoto has made.
39:35 --> 39:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's say the last four years.
39:38 --> 39:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Is there anyone you regret trading that's a prospect?
39:44 --> 39:47 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're thinking this long, the answer is probably no.
39:49 --> 39:54 [SPEAKER_01]: The one that's gonna come to mind, obviously, is the Luis Castillo trade, because those were the highest level of prospects dealt.
39:55 --> 39:56 [SPEAKER_01]: But look at the results since then.
39:56 --> 39:58 [SPEAKER_01]: No LV Martais done nothing in the big leagues.
39:58 --> 40:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And when a royal hasn't gotten to the big leagues, Levi stout got traded back to the Mariners and then didn't even stay in the org.
40:06 --> 40:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Andrew Moore, the reliever.
40:08 --> 40:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's not in the big leagues.
40:09 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, like no.
40:10 --> 40:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm gonna, because I've messed up his name before I've gotten a mixed up, Brandon Williamson.
40:16 --> 40:17 [SPEAKER_00]: That was a different trade, but yeah.
40:17 --> 40:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Different trade made the big leagues, but hasn't been memorable at all in the big leagues.
40:24 --> 40:32 [SPEAKER_00]: And then Brody Hopkins and Aiden Smith, I think are playing really well in the race minor league system, but it's like, as we said, the Mariners have more top prospects than anybody.
40:33 --> 40:36 [SPEAKER_00]: And Randy and Randy's WRC plossing, like, one fifty.
40:37 --> 40:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you're so.
40:38 --> 40:38 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.
40:39 --> 40:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, they can have Brody and Aiden Smith.
40:40 --> 40:40 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.
40:42 --> 40:44 [SPEAKER_00]: That's all the things you think about at this point.
40:44 --> 40:48 [SPEAKER_00]: And can I preface a little bit of a Ben Williams point here?
40:48 --> 40:54 [SPEAKER_00]: to understand or some people are coming from when they say they don't want to move Ben Williams and off of third base.
40:54 --> 40:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to start by saying this.
40:56 --> 41:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Ben Williams since third base defense this year has actually been very, very good.
41:00 --> 41:01 [SPEAKER_00]: It has been a plus.
41:01 --> 41:07 [SPEAKER_00]: It has been much better than their idea at the beginning of the season of putting Jorge Polanco over their third base and have them play.
41:08 --> 41:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Clearly that was not a good idea because it lasted five games and they said, nope, we're, we're pulling the cord on this.
41:13 --> 41:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Ben Williams is coming up.
41:16 --> 41:22 [SPEAKER_00]: But the truth of the matter is guys, is that Ben Williamson's offense of production at third base is just if you want to win the division is not good enough.
41:23 --> 41:24 [SPEAKER_00]: There's not enough juice.
41:24 --> 41:27 [SPEAKER_00]: I was making the point to somebody this weekend.
41:28 --> 41:31 [SPEAKER_00]: If you have a hit or at the plate where you can throw the ball down the middle,
41:32 --> 41:35 [SPEAKER_00]: and you know they're not going to do damage against you.
41:35 --> 41:41 [SPEAKER_00]: It says a lot about their offense of profile and that kind of how it feels with Ben Williams at this point.
41:42 --> 41:49 [SPEAKER_00]: He just hasn't shown at any real level of the miners in college or at the big leagues that there's consistent power in that bat.
41:50 --> 41:54 [SPEAKER_00]: And when there's not power in that bat, yeah, okay, he's hitting two, fifty.
41:55 --> 41:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
41:55 --> 42:01 [SPEAKER_00]: And people have referenced to us, that toss is proof that he's a solid offense of player.
42:02 --> 42:08 [SPEAKER_00]: But then if you don't walk and you don't hit for power, it just kind of hard to find that value elsewhere.
42:08 --> 42:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to know another fun fact, while we're on the topic of batting average?
42:13 --> 42:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Gina was a higher batting average this season than Ben Williams and does.
42:17 --> 42:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
42:20 --> 42:20 [SPEAKER_00]: How about that?
42:22 --> 42:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, any is thirty five home runs.
42:25 --> 42:26 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot.
42:28 --> 42:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Ben Williamson has a seventy eight OPS plus entering Sunday.
42:32 --> 42:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Like guys, this is why you can't only look at batting average.
42:35 --> 42:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, neither TJ and I are saying with Ben Williamson that by making this move, we're not saying send Ben Williamson back to the minors.
42:42 --> 42:43 [SPEAKER_01]: They're saying that like
42:43 --> 42:51 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, anything like that, all we're saying by making this trade is Ben Williams and probably just turns into the utility in field or if you trade for Geno.
42:51 --> 42:58 [SPEAKER_01]: At least for the rest of the year, because I know he's only played third base in the big leagues, but he played a little bit a second in short in the minors.
42:58 --> 43:03 [SPEAKER_01]: If you wanted to run him out over at those positions and gave him a little bit of time to learn it, I'm sure he could do it.
43:04 --> 43:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, like Ben has a role on this team.
43:07 --> 43:12 [SPEAKER_01]: He's certainly you're gonna need him come play off time when it gets into crunch time.
43:12 --> 43:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you need a pinch runner.
43:13 --> 43:15 [SPEAKER_01]: You certainly need a defensive replacement.
43:15 --> 43:16 [SPEAKER_01]: He'll have a roll.
43:16 --> 43:18 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no doubt he'll have a roll.
43:19 --> 43:19 [SPEAKER_01]: But
43:20 --> 43:29 [SPEAKER_01]: You just can't have a seventy eight OPS plus hitting rookie at the hot corner spot at a premium offense of position.
43:30 --> 43:37 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're serious about going to win this division and make a true run in the postseason, you just got to find a way to upgrade.
43:37 --> 43:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And Gino is such an obvious fit.
43:40 --> 43:48 [SPEAKER_00]: You cannot both complain that Gino is performing better away from Seattle, and then not want to trade for him because of Ben Williamson.
43:49 --> 43:50 [SPEAKER_00]: You cannot do both of those things.
43:51 --> 43:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
43:52 --> 44:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, Gino away from Chase Field, which is obviously a hitters park, he's still WRC plastic about one, twenty this year, aka very good.
44:02 --> 44:02 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll take it.
44:04 --> 44:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm glad that got stirred up this weekend because
44:07 --> 44:11 [SPEAKER_00]: where our deadline deadline's approaching, we got a week in change.
44:11 --> 44:13 [SPEAKER_00]: We have five episodes until the deadline.
44:13 --> 44:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, five episodes.
44:16 --> 44:20 [SPEAKER_01]: So, AKA five episodes until a potential ticking time bomb goes off.
44:21 --> 44:24 [SPEAKER_00]: That Friday episode, you better, everyone better circle their calendars.
44:25 --> 44:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Friday August first, three AM Pacific time, you might, you're gonna wanna tune in to the podcast channels.
44:32 --> 44:35 [SPEAKER_01]: If they don't do enough at the deadline, well, you're gonna wanna tune in for it.
44:36 --> 44:42 [SPEAKER_01]: every reason anyway, because either we're going to be fired up about deadline they have and say that they killed it.
44:42 --> 44:43 [SPEAKER_01]: They made the upgrades they needed.
44:43 --> 44:48 [SPEAKER_01]: This team's ready to make a run or we're going to sit here and say, well, you did nothing all off season.
44:48 --> 44:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you made an and then you had an unserious deadline and that ticking time bomb will go off.
44:53 --> 44:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
44:54 --> 44:55 [SPEAKER_00]: and they'll have all the prospects still.
44:56 --> 45:01 [SPEAKER_00]: That'll be an interesting conversation, but we got some more guys to hot that we want to highlight over these upcoming weeks.
45:01 --> 45:03 [SPEAKER_00]: We do have a couple of big guys.
45:03 --> 45:05 [SPEAKER_00]: We want to highlight on Wednesday's episode.
45:05 --> 45:07 [SPEAKER_00]: So you want to stay tuned for that.
45:07 --> 45:08 [SPEAKER_00]: We're, you know, we're pulling out all the stops.
45:08 --> 45:18 [SPEAKER_00]: There could be some, I can't promise there are these big names available, but there are some teams that will probably sell that have very big names on their rosters.
45:18 --> 45:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, you bet, you bet trash.
45:20 --> 45:20 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about it.
45:21 --> 45:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we're going to talk about it.
45:23 --> 45:26 [SPEAKER_01]: If we're talking about Kyle Tucker, Ronald and Cunia, et cetera, nobody's off limits.
45:26 --> 45:27 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about anybody.
45:28 --> 45:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, can I shed out the people, man?
45:30 --> 45:33 [SPEAKER_00]: How many Ronald and Cunia comments have we gotten this weekend?
45:33 --> 45:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that was awesome.
45:34 --> 45:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, we got amazing.
45:35 --> 45:37 [SPEAKER_01]: We got a few Kyle Tucker ones too.
45:37 --> 45:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
45:39 --> 45:40 [SPEAKER_01]: But we get those people were tuned for the stars.
45:41 --> 45:41 [SPEAKER_01]: They are.
45:42 --> 45:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And we get a lot of Kyle Tucker comments to be honest.
45:44 --> 45:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks to us, but that's probably going to be more of an offseason project at this point, unfortunately, because the cups are very good.
45:52 --> 45:55 [SPEAKER_01]: And the Braves, you ever know?
45:55 --> 45:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, anyway, we got more guys to highlight in the next couple of weeks and there'll be some fun names.
45:59 --> 46:02 [SPEAKER_01]: So tune in, it's gonna be a blast.
46:02 --> 46:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Can I throw one last note in here before we wrap up?
46:05 --> 46:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
46:06 --> 46:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we undersold the breweries even though we said they were really hot coming into town this early part of this week.
46:13 --> 46:15 [SPEAKER_00]: There have a game out of the best record and baseball.
46:17 --> 46:19 [SPEAKER_00]: So you know how we said this stretch was important?
46:20 --> 46:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I was under selling the burrers a little bit.
46:22 --> 46:25 [SPEAKER_00]: They're actually the best team the Mariners are playing in this stretch.
46:27 --> 46:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, well, better than the Tigers.
46:30 --> 46:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, half their half a game behind the Tigers.
46:33 --> 46:34 [SPEAKER_01]: So pretty close.
46:34 --> 46:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, really, really close.
46:37 --> 46:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and guess what?
46:38 --> 46:43 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners need to find a way to win on Monday because otherwise three losses in a row are upcoming.
46:43 --> 46:48 [SPEAKER_01]: They will not be like, I don't think they're going to hit Jacob as a Rowski on Tuesday.
46:48 --> 46:53 [SPEAKER_01]: So, and I know, I know they've hit every ace and they've found a way every single time to shock everybody.
46:54 --> 46:58 [SPEAKER_01]: At some point, they're just going to run into a buzz saw who just cares them apart.
46:58 --> 47:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And Jacob is a Rowski, despite being a rookie who's barely pitch.
47:02 --> 47:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
47:03 --> 47:05 [SPEAKER_01]: For those of you that have seen them, you don't need me to tell you.
47:05 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_01]: For those of you who have not watched Jacob Mizorowski yet, I mean, you're in for something on Tuesday.
47:12 --> 47:13 [SPEAKER_00]: He starts.
47:13 --> 47:16 [SPEAKER_00]: He throws a hundred and three with a ninety-six mile an hour slider.
47:18 --> 47:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Ninety-six mile an hour slider.
47:20 --> 47:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Brian moves fastball, by the way, was sitting below ninety-six in the latter parts of Sunday's game.
47:26 --> 47:27 [SPEAKER_00]: If you want some context.
47:27 --> 47:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, what does JSN say?
47:30 --> 47:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Good luck to y'all.
47:33 --> 47:35 [SPEAKER_01]: That'll look y'all, I guess.
47:36 --> 47:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
47:39 --> 47:41 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so let's find a way to win Monday.
47:41 --> 47:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Another reason I thought that Sunday game was pretty important because, well, even still, sandwiched between Sunday and Tuesday is a Monday game against Brandon Woodruff who just got back to pitching.
47:52 --> 47:58 [SPEAKER_01]: That is a little bit of a soft spot in this sandwich between Hunter Brown and between Jacob Mizorowski.
47:58 --> 48:00 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that Monday game is going to be important that they win.
48:00 --> 48:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And Quinn Priester, who's going to pitch Wednesdays, had a really, really good year.
48:03 --> 48:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he just blanked the Dodgers in his last start.
48:06 --> 48:09 [SPEAKER_01]: So they're going to, you know, they get some tough pitching in this series.
48:09 --> 48:11 [SPEAKER_01]: The one soft spot's probably going to be Monday.
48:12 --> 48:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope they take advantage of it Monday.
48:13 --> 48:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, by the way, the brewers in that stretch that they're on right now, they just swept the Dodgers.
48:18 --> 48:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So fun.
48:20 --> 48:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's so exciting.
48:23 --> 48:25 [SPEAKER_01]: When these games, man, you know what?
48:25 --> 48:30 [SPEAKER_01]: If they win this series, only more instead of to go get really serious about adding.
48:30 --> 48:37 [SPEAKER_01]: It should be serious anyway, but I would hope that only puts the pressure on a little bit more if they win just, yeah, go get better, go get real pieces.
48:38 --> 48:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Go get genome.
48:39 --> 48:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Go get genome.
48:40 --> 48:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
48:42 --> 48:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, that's just about wraps up this edition of the Marine Lair podcast.
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