Lyle and TJ react to the Mariners acquiring Josh Naylor from the Arizona Diamondbacks, where he fits in the lineup, how the Mariners roster shakes out, who they could acquire next, and more.
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00:00 --> 00:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, when episode number two, seventy two of the Marine Lair podcast, the Marys make the first splash of the MLB trade deadline.
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00:55 --> 01:09 [SPEAKER_01]: and we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just baseball podcast network recording on Thursday evening July, twenty-fourth and man-o-man-law the Mariners just came out swinging at this deadline.
01:09 --> 01:14 [SPEAKER_01]: We were all set and ready to go with our normal Friday episode and then bam.
01:15 --> 01:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Mariners have a first-face man.
01:17 --> 01:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're sitting here in the recording studio, getting all set up.
01:20 --> 01:23 [SPEAKER_00]: And then we both get the passing notification immediately.
01:23 --> 01:25 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, well, new episode incoming.
01:26 --> 01:51 [SPEAKER_01]: how exciting is this they they jumped out in front of this one didn't they I think they they're sitting there and watching the trademark it when they look at Josh Naylor and they said we don't want to wait around for everyone else we I assume they got a verbal yes from the Diamondbacks that they would do it for this package will get into the package a little bit later it's a little bit of a sentimental hard package for us to to go through but we'll talk about that in a second let's stick on Naylor for now
01:52 --> 01:58 [SPEAKER_01]: They got a, I think a verbal yes for this package and they weren't going to wait around for anything else to be tied in with the Diamondbacks.
01:58 --> 02:01 [SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be kind of like what they did with the Blue Jay's last year.
02:01 --> 02:07 [SPEAKER_01]: They jump out and they see someone they want and they'll go get him even if they're going to circle back on another guy that the Diamondbacks could offer later on.
02:09 --> 02:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Or like Randy, you know what credit to the Mariners, they do this often, whether it's at the trade deadline or often in the off season when they decide to make transactions in the off season, oftentimes they'll know what they want and they'll jump out in front of it first.
02:21 --> 02:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Jerry DiPoto, Justin Hollander, that whole front office staff,
02:24 --> 02:42 [SPEAKER_00]: does not wait around a lot of the time and we've seen that at multiple trade deadlines now when there's so many they want they'll jump ahead of the market and do it and they just did it again that was the first big fish to land on this market first domino to fall and he's going to Seattle and this is an upgrade they absolutely need people should be nothing
02:42 --> 02:45 [SPEAKER_00]: but fired up to see Josh Nailer in Seattle because he's a good hitter.
02:46 --> 02:48 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to provide thumb in the middle of the lineup.
02:48 --> 02:53 [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't strike out and this signals the Mariners are serious about making a run this year.
02:53 --> 03:03 [SPEAKER_00]: It signals every bit in every way shape and form that the Mariners are in for a run this or like are trying to make a run this here and every fan should be fired up about that.
03:03 --> 03:07 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not the craziest amount of power out of a first baseman.
03:07 --> 03:09 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got eleven homeruns this year.
03:09 --> 03:10 [SPEAKER_01]: He does hit the ball pretty hard.
03:11 --> 03:12 [SPEAKER_01]: He does not strike out as you said.
03:13 --> 03:18 [SPEAKER_01]: He kind of fits into what the Mariners want for a lefty first baseman over there at first.
03:18 --> 03:21 [SPEAKER_01]: His platoon splits are still pretty drastic.
03:21 --> 03:24 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got an eighty two WRC plus against lefties this year.
03:24 --> 03:26 [SPEAKER_01]: It's one forty four against righties.
03:26 --> 03:28 [SPEAKER_01]: The platoon aspect might not change that much.
03:28 --> 03:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I would imagine the Mariners will sprinkle him in a little bit against lefties trying to get him to play as many days as they can, but they are still going to probably throw Donovan Slano out there at first base when there is a lefty on the mound just to sort of mix that in.
03:42 --> 03:52 [SPEAKER_01]: But it just stacks another solid bat in this lineup where you now can go JP leading off, Julio hitting second, Calhating third, Randy hitting fourth, Nailer hitting fifth.
03:52 --> 03:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it's clear as day, you don't even need to think about that line up that much.
03:56 --> 04:00 [SPEAKER_01]: It's left right left, right left sequential down the order.
04:01 --> 04:04 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's probably in the order of how you want your bat stacked anyways.
04:06 --> 04:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you know that
04:08 --> 04:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Cole Young and Ben William Center going to be hitting in the eight nine spots.
04:12 --> 04:16 [SPEAKER_00]: So basically you've got your line of pretty penciled in for the most part moving forward.
04:16 --> 04:18 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, you can split up the lefties and righties.
04:18 --> 04:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, this is a move that signals they're going for it.
04:21 --> 04:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Josh Nailers are really good player.
04:22 --> 04:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me, let me clarify one thing.
04:25 --> 04:30 [SPEAKER_00]: He squares the ball up, like if you look on baseball, Sivan is quote unquote squared up percentage is very high.
04:31 --> 04:45 [SPEAKER_00]: His barrel rates aren't crazy or hard hit rates, but like he's a guy that squares the ball up and overall you don't necessarily have to hit home runs to have thump in the middle of a lineup because Josh Nailer is a one, twenty to one, twenty five WRC plus hitter every year.
04:45 --> 04:47 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a very, very good hitter.
04:47 --> 04:49 [SPEAKER_00]: He's been exactly that this year.
04:49 --> 04:51 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a guy that again has a very good approach.
04:51 --> 04:52 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to help the offense.
04:52 --> 04:53 [SPEAKER_00]: This is exciting.
04:53 --> 04:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I like
04:55 --> 05:08 [SPEAKER_00]: us, especially like we're putting all our personal feelings aside for most of this podcast to talk about the objective at hand, which is the Mariners just made a win now move and they made a move that says, yeah, we're not letting this year go by the wayside.
05:08 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_00]: We're not letting Cal Raleigh season go to waste.
05:11 --> 05:13 [SPEAKER_00]: We want to go out and make impact moves at the deadline.
05:13 --> 05:14 [SPEAKER_00]: They just did that and they did it first.
05:15 --> 05:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the really interesting part of this whole scenario is, as I've sitting there, I'm reacting to this that we post it all over social media channels.
05:22 --> 05:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sitting here trying to think about, okay, so since they acquired Josh Newler now and he fits easily in the middle of the lineup, he fits it first base.
05:29 --> 05:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Where are they gonna look next?
05:31 --> 05:36 [SPEAKER_01]: My instant thinking was that they're gonna go out and now they're gonna go target a reliever.
05:36 --> 05:39 [SPEAKER_01]: They got the big bat they wanted, they could probably use another supplemental bat,
05:40 --> 05:48 [SPEAKER_01]: But the next big name they need is in the Mariners, both in the reporting sounds like though, Gino is still a hundred percent on the table.
05:49 --> 05:56 [SPEAKER_01]: If not still their number one priority, Daniel Cramer tweeted a handful of minutes ago that the Mariners still have Gino at the top of their want list.
05:57 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_01]: But if I'm going to guess, Lyle, what's sitting there and happening in this room as they're digesting all of this, they get the yes for Josh Nailer.
06:05 --> 06:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Gino's price is still all the way up here.
06:07 --> 06:13 [SPEAKER_01]: How many different reporters today are tweeting out how high Gino's sorrows is tree packages?
06:14 --> 06:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think the Diamondbacks are going to trade them a week before the deadline?
06:18 --> 06:21 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't think they're planning on doing that, unless they prove me wrong.
06:22 --> 06:29 [SPEAKER_01]: But it doesn't sound like they're probably going to draw that out and get teams to give up as much as they humanly can right up until next Thursday's deadline.
06:30 --> 06:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And the Mariners didn't want to wait around for that.
06:32 --> 06:35 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to risk getting to deadline day.
06:35 --> 06:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the players you want because you're holding out for someone else is all of a sudden not available.
06:40 --> 06:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Why not go get both?
06:41 --> 06:49 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why you stack your farm system like this where you can make a trade for Josh Nailer and still have every single piece you would need to go get Gino as well.
06:51 --> 06:51 [SPEAKER_00]: for sure.
06:52 --> 06:55 [SPEAKER_00]: And you can still look at other third base options now that you have Naylor.
06:56 --> 07:03 [SPEAKER_00]: You can look more at Willie Castro, like I wasn't gonna be all that fired up if Willie Castro was their headline offensive move of the deadline.
07:04 --> 07:15 [SPEAKER_00]: But if they deemed Gino's price too expensive, Willie Castro, somebody you could go get to play third base, you have Naylor at first, and you primarily focus here on outmoving forward on getting a lethal bullpen arm.
07:16 --> 07:24 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, Josh Naylor, not only does that set the tone for the rest of your trade deadline, but it forces you to like you said, not have to wait around for Gino,
07:25 --> 07:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it also takes a lot of mental, not mental pressure off them, but I think it gives the whole fanbase a sigh of relief.
07:35 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Because I'm sure there's plenty of people that are sitting there thinking, I think going to do anything at this deadline and let it go by the waste time.
07:42 --> 07:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Just read a comment section.
07:43 --> 07:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it going to be twenty, twenty, three all over again?
07:46 --> 07:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Or are they going to let Cal Raleigh season go to waste?
07:48 --> 07:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Now everybody can let that go.
07:51 --> 07:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Because that is not happening.
07:53 --> 07:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Of the two best bats available,
07:55 --> 07:56 [SPEAKER_00]: They went and got the second best one.
07:57 --> 07:58 [SPEAKER_00]: They got Josh Nailer.
07:58 --> 08:06 [SPEAKER_00]: They made a significant, like, not it's not an all-in move, but they made a sit-nose, not by any means.
08:06 --> 08:11 [SPEAKER_00]: But they made a significant point of emphasis to get ahead of this and make this happen.
08:11 --> 08:11 [SPEAKER_00]: So you're right.
08:11 --> 08:18 [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't get caught looking behind their, like looking over their shoulder and thinking about what could have been at the end of the deadline because they missed out on guys.
08:19 --> 08:19 [SPEAKER_01]: No, they got ahead of it.
08:20 --> 08:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that we see the price for Nailer, what price for use to high for genome?
08:26 --> 08:34 [SPEAKER_00]: that atrocity of an article that Jim Bowden put out saying, saying that it would cost Ryan Sloan.
08:34 --> 08:40 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, buddy, I say this to you respectfully as somebody who I know your job as a national reporter, but learn ball.
08:42 --> 08:45 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners will not be trading Ryan Sloan for a rental.
08:45 --> 08:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Ryan Sloan at this point is getting traded period.
08:50 --> 09:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I said to you today the only way I think he's getting moved is if one of our pie and the sky trade packages actually came to fruition like if Ronald Acunia was actually going to happen other than that.
09:02 --> 09:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Ryan Sloan's worked his way up near the cold Emerson levels, I think of an untouchable prospect.
09:08 --> 09:16 [SPEAKER_00]: No prospect is actually untouchable, but I think the Mariners value Ryan Sloan at this point is close to the best arm in their system.
09:17 --> 09:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Just listen to these numbers before we get back to GNO on Ryan Sloan, because in our episode that we were going to put out today, I wanted to talk about Ryan Sloan a little bit.
09:25 --> 09:28 [SPEAKER_01]: uh, Sloan is allowed one earned run over his last twenty one innings.
09:29 --> 09:30 [SPEAKER_01]: He struck out twenty nine.
09:30 --> 09:33 [SPEAKER_01]: He's walked to is a sixty one percent ground ball rate.
09:34 --> 09:37 [SPEAKER_01]: His basketball six ninety six sits ninety six.
09:37 --> 09:39 [SPEAKER_01]: It can get up to ninety eight ninety nine miles an hour.
09:40 --> 09:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and he's nineteen.
09:41 --> 09:42 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, don't trade him.
09:42 --> 09:43 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's an.
09:43 --> 09:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he's an absolute workhorse.
09:45 --> 09:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I know they've been careful about his innings, but the the bill, the delivery, everything he is.
09:52 --> 09:54 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got a chance to really be a stud.
09:54 --> 09:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the Mariners seriously may have struck gold with the way they targeted that draft last year.
10:00 --> 10:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I think with every start he's made the internal confidence in Ryan Sloan, both in the Mariners org and externally by third parties and evaluators is basically like, wow, this guy could be a true top line starter.
10:15 --> 10:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
10:16 --> 10:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say I have a bit of a guess for this genome trade.
10:19 --> 10:24 [SPEAKER_01]: If the Mariners are only going to trade for genome from the Diamondbacks, no one else is in this package.
10:25 --> 10:29 [SPEAKER_01]: If the cost includes one top one hundred prospect, are you doing it?
10:31 --> 10:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because you would assume it's going to be somebody on the lower end of it.
10:34 --> 10:49 [SPEAKER_00]: If it's going to cost you again, one of either just a throw couple names out there, somebody like Harry Ford or Michael O'Royo, and then maybe another solid prospect in there as well.
10:50 --> 10:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you would you would make that deal, right?
10:52 --> 11:00 [SPEAKER_00]: So I like I can't throw out names because I don't know who's valued where and what the Diamondbacks like at each different prospect, but to make it a little more general to your point.
11:00 --> 11:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if it's a lower end top a hundred prospect and then one other guy in the Mariners top fifteen.
11:06 --> 11:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do it.
11:08 --> 11:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would do that too.
11:09 --> 11:10 [SPEAKER_01]: If that's what it takes.
11:10 --> 11:14 [SPEAKER_01]: It seems like that's what the Yankees would be willing to give up at that point.
11:15 --> 11:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Yankees sound like they'd be willing to give up Big League or Forum in Schlittler.
11:19 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll call it Big League or so it's nice to hear the Mariners are still monitoring that situation because as good as it is to have the number two bat on the deadline having the number one bat and the number two bat would also be super dope.
11:33 --> 11:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think the Mariners offense would be
11:36 --> 11:50 [SPEAKER_01]: You would have to tape your cap a little bit to them at that point because then you go, I don't know how you structure this order, but then you have to go one of JP, Julio, Cal, and then you need to figure out what to do with Nailer, Gino, and Randy behind those three.
11:50 --> 11:52 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a good problem to have.
11:52 --> 11:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Very, very good problem to have.
11:55 --> 11:58 [SPEAKER_00]: And who knows, maybe they go get Griffin Jackson or Joe on to ran on top of that?
11:58 --> 12:00 [SPEAKER_00]: That would be like their best deadline ever.
12:01 --> 12:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to ask you, so the other thing the Mariners are going to go out and target right now, I think, is they're going to go out and I think they should swing for a big reliever.
12:10 --> 12:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Jacks and Duran were two of them.
12:13 --> 12:17 [SPEAKER_01]: We talked about class A and what that would cost on our last episode.
12:17 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Felix, but T's still would cost a similar package with the Orioles though.
12:21 --> 12:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I know someone was mentioning his stuff is just not quite up there at that point.
12:27 --> 12:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Kate Smith would cost a ton as well.
12:31 --> 12:46 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't, the way I think about it, it needs to be a reliever at that level, or it needs to be one level below that that is comfortable pitching in the sixth of the seventh inning, probably pretty similar to what they wanted for Jamie Garcia last year.
12:46 --> 12:55 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't have to be someone that replaces Andre's Munoz or is an Andre's Munoz equivalent, but it does need someone who you feel like with a lead you could throw and say the seventh inning.
12:56 --> 12:58 [SPEAKER_01]: like a, like a David Bednar.
12:59 --> 12:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
12:59 --> 13:01 [SPEAKER_01]: That's he would be exactly the same.
13:01 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, it's also been just unreal.
13:03 --> 13:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
13:04 --> 13:09 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's the guy who's an example of below all the absolute S tier relievers.
13:09 --> 13:09 [SPEAKER_00]: A.K.
13:10 --> 13:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Duran, Jacks, Klaasay, Kade Smith, Felix Batista,
13:15 --> 13:18 [SPEAKER_00]: If you go one level below them, that's where you get to.
13:18 --> 13:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say David, Bednar, Pete, Fairbanks, guys like that.
13:21 --> 13:23 [SPEAKER_00]: And the race may not move Fairbanks at this point.
13:23 --> 13:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I would be shocked honestly at this point if they do.
13:26 --> 13:28 [SPEAKER_00]: But guys like that.
13:28 --> 13:31 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, this is an awesome first start.
13:32 --> 13:33 [SPEAKER_00]: There's more work to do.
13:33 --> 13:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're done, but yeah, there's options out there now while also having something solidified in your back pocket with Josh Naila ready to play first base every day.
13:42 --> 13:49 [SPEAKER_00]: And I will say, his numbers away from Chase Field this year have actually been pretty solid.
13:49 --> 13:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he's hitting about two, sixty is OPS is about seven, fifty, five, roughly that's going to be O.
13:55 --> 14:08 [SPEAKER_00]: One, fifteen WRC plus I don't pull up fan graphs while we record these shows because that's how your computer absolutely like Glitch is out in the video is going to be bad because fan graphs takes up so much bandwidth on a computer.
14:08 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_00]: But maybe I could always look up it up on my phone.
14:12 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_00]: But again, when you have a seven fifty five OPS what?
14:16 --> 14:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to know what is stats or a team of park?
14:20 --> 14:21 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be some small sample size.
14:21 --> 14:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if it's a Mitch Garver thing, but find them in.
14:25 --> 14:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
14:25 --> 14:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, people are going to comment at a comment about it on this episode.
14:28 --> 14:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So I might as well get ahead of the curve.
14:30 --> 14:32 [SPEAKER_01]: He has a six, forty six, OPS at team mobile park.
14:33 --> 14:34 [SPEAKER_01]: How many of that?
14:35 --> 14:38 [SPEAKER_01]: He has sixty three played appearances.
14:40 --> 14:41 [SPEAKER_00]: It's actually a decent amount.
14:42 --> 14:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
14:43 --> 14:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever.
14:46 --> 14:47 [SPEAKER_00]: He's only gonna play half his games here.
14:47 --> 14:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, it's not enough of a sample.
14:50 --> 14:51 [SPEAKER_00]: You can't know that for sure.
14:51 --> 14:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Like his games for two months.
14:52 --> 14:56 [SPEAKER_01]: What you probably should do also in the offseason is offer him a contract.
14:56 --> 14:59 [SPEAKER_01]: You need to make a nice sales pitch to Josh Nailer in these two months.
15:00 --> 15:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Fans show up to the park.
15:01 --> 15:02 [SPEAKER_01]: They support him.
15:03 --> 15:05 [SPEAKER_01]: They show him how much they care about watching and play.
15:06 --> 15:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the Mariners need to step up and offer him a legit contract in the offseason.
15:10 --> 15:11 [SPEAKER_01]: That would be nice.
15:12 --> 15:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Be nice to have an everyday or somewhat everyday first space been locked down over there.
15:16 --> 15:19 [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe Lyle will actually smile on the Mariners.
15:20 --> 15:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's hope.
15:21 --> 15:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's, I think he's supposed to be kind of a fun guy, no?
15:25 --> 15:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I like so.
15:27 --> 15:32 [SPEAKER_01]: People who are, I just remember Mariners fans commenting on how unhappy he looked when the Mariners played them.
15:33 --> 15:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, after he hit that walk-off home against the Diamondbacks, which, by the way, is Josh Nailer going to be responsible for losing the Mariners their playoffs spot at the end of the year if they missed by one game next on undisputed.
15:45 --> 15:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Just like Dom hands own.
15:47 --> 15:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
15:47 --> 15:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Can't own, can't own loss the Mariners their playoffs spot in twenty three.
15:53 --> 15:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Only the Mariners could manage that.
15:55 --> 15:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that would be something.
15:57 --> 16:00 [SPEAKER_01]: But speaking speaking of Dom, unless you do have any nails on Nailer,
16:01 --> 16:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I was just going to, again, say how you hit seven, you hit with a seven, fifty five OPS away from Timo or away from Chase Field.
16:09 --> 16:11 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a pretty decent sign, right?
16:11 --> 16:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Because that's about a one, fifteen-ish WRC plus hitter.
16:15 --> 16:17 [SPEAKER_00]: That's somebody that should be very productive for you.
16:17 --> 16:19 [SPEAKER_00]: The chosen doesn't have to hit in the hitters park.
16:19 --> 16:21 [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, played most of his career in Cleveland.
16:21 --> 16:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Like those are not friendly hitting conditions a lot of the year.
16:24 --> 16:25 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like he's
16:26 --> 16:30 [SPEAKER_00]: played a cool field this whole big league career like he can hit in tough conditions.
16:30 --> 16:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Those are better away numbers than Ryan McMahon.
16:34 --> 16:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, I'm going to vomit if they trade for Ryan McMahon.
16:36 --> 16:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I just put a reaction about that out on social media today before this nailer trade all went down, but if you want to spend thirty seconds on this, so Ryan McMahon has never been a league average hitter in his entire career.
16:49 --> 16:52 [SPEAKER_00]: He has never had a one hundred WRC plus.
16:52 --> 16:52 [SPEAKER_00]: He
16:53 --> 17:14 [SPEAKER_00]: plays a cures he would be going from cures the team of a park he has a five eighty nine ops away from cures field this year in twenty five for his career six sixty four so not good and he's been the big leagues for i believe since twenty seventeen the long time now since McMahon's been a big league or so that is a real sample size that he's had to play away from
17:15 --> 17:16 [SPEAKER_00]: course field, yes, in seventeen.
17:16 --> 17:24 [SPEAKER_00]: And if that's not enough, he's striking out thirty two percent of the time and is owed sixteen million dollars in each of twenty twenty six and then twenty twenty seven.
17:25 --> 17:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I said it on social media.
17:26 --> 17:32 [SPEAKER_00]: The only way you could even fathom trading for Ryan McMahon is if the rocky say, yeah, we'll eat
17:33 --> 17:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Eleven of his sixteen million dollars a year and all we want back is a lottery ticket prospect in the years on a complex lake.
17:39 --> 17:42 [SPEAKER_00]: That is the only way I would say yeah, I'll trade for Ryan McMahon.
17:42 --> 17:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, I think I would legitimately vomit because I don't think that's anything different than Ben Williamson except these way more expensive.
17:49 --> 17:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Lucky thing for you dog, it's not the first time it wouldn't be the first time the Rockies have traded a paid trade away a first base of third baseman that they owe a lot of money to.
17:59 --> 18:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
18:01 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_00]: uh... also another gino potential suitor frances remaro just tweeted this i thought you were just about to break it right now you i'm not quite but it was our worst fear that we talked about on sunday when we saw that you saw parade is injury uh... remaro says the astros are also showing interest in a uhani as far as and have had a deep and and have a deep enough farm system to back a potential trade person no they don't no they don't and they do the mariners can beat it
18:32 --> 18:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't even happen.
18:33 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if Gino goes to the Diamondbacks, I know this is supposed to be a positive episode because they just got Josh Nailer.
18:38 --> 18:39 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a great move.
18:40 --> 18:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Gino goes to the Diamondbacks.
18:42 --> 18:44 [SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be a really brutal look.
18:44 --> 18:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Not just because the Mariners traded him away for what was.
18:51 --> 18:53 [SPEAKER_00]: pretty unsatisfactory return.
18:53 --> 19:03 [SPEAKER_00]: And also, by the way, only saved three million dollars because they decided they'd rather have Louis Arias and Josh Rojas play third base for eight million dollars, and then also signed Mitch Garver for two years for twenty four million dollars on top of all that.
19:04 --> 19:11 [SPEAKER_00]: But on top of everything we just mentioned, if he were also to go to their division rival who they're chasing in the west to have a way worse farm system, that would be a bad luck.
19:13 --> 19:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that would that would not be good.
19:15 --> 19:32 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see the it does seem like the dynamics are in full cell off mode and I know the Astros and the Mariners are not the only teams in on Gino I would guess I guess Gino has ten to fifteen suitors right now So we know this we know the Mariners are in we know the Yankees are in we know the Cubs are in we know the Tigers are in
19:33 --> 19:34 [SPEAKER_00]: And you're right.
19:34 --> 19:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And now we know the Astros are in.
19:35 --> 19:36 [SPEAKER_00]: There's probably a few others too.
19:37 --> 19:37 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be tough.
19:38 --> 19:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I saw someone suggesting today that the brewer should be on it, too.
19:42 --> 19:46 [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of teams that that could use genome services.
19:46 --> 19:47 [SPEAKER_01]: So we're just going to have to wait and see.
19:47 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that Diamondbacks are going to draw this out as long as possible.
19:51 --> 19:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say, well, I would just say, again, if we want to keep hitting on Nailer for a minute or two here, just because it is his episode.
19:59 --> 20:03 [SPEAKER_00]: If you want his actual slash line for the year right now he's heading to ninety two.
20:04 --> 20:08 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got an eight oh seven OPS one twenty four OPS plus he's had eleven homers.
20:09 --> 20:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Defense isn't great you're obviously not trading for him for his defense so we thought we'd mention it but it's it's not why they're acquiring the player but again he's a guy that's going to provide impact in the middle of the lineup.
20:21 --> 20:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes he's more right handed or he's he's a better hit or against right hand a pitching by decent margin but that's all right.
20:27 --> 20:30 [SPEAKER_00]: He also walks in OK amount, about nine and a half percent of the time.
20:31 --> 20:36 [SPEAKER_00]: And when you pair that with the fact that he really doesn't strike out, I mean, there's a lot to like about his profile.
20:37 --> 20:38 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no.
20:39 --> 20:40 [SPEAKER_01]: No, you go.
20:40 --> 20:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say, I was curious if he had hit the ball, ball harder in the past when he was a little bit younger.
20:44 --> 20:53 [SPEAKER_01]: His average eggs of velocities have hovered like right about in the middle of the league, right around that fiftyth percentile mark in terms of
20:54 --> 20:55 [SPEAKER_01]: how hard he's hit in the baseball.
20:55 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, first career, it's always been about less strikeouts, not hitting the ball incredibly hard, but he's not like, he's not like Louis Surrise when he's like in terms of that volume of contact, he is going to hit the ball hard enough where it's not not valuable.
21:11 --> 21:19 [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, he'll get on base, he'll slug enough for a first baseman, certainly more than some of the Mariners first baseman they've had here in the past.
21:19 --> 21:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
21:21 --> 21:24 [SPEAKER_01]: The best version of Ty France is not a terrible comparison here.
21:26 --> 21:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
21:26 --> 21:28 [SPEAKER_00]: And the best version of Ty France is really good.
21:28 --> 21:30 [SPEAKER_01]: They may not start team.
21:31 --> 21:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Also lefty hitting version.
21:34 --> 21:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
21:35 --> 21:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Also since we've dove an end to a decent amount of the numbers at this point.
21:40 --> 21:46 [SPEAKER_00]: We also talk about getting back to the whole will he smile and see at all supposed to be a fun guy.
21:46 --> 21:48 [SPEAKER_00]: You know he plays with fire on the field.
21:49 --> 21:55 [SPEAKER_00]: The whole rock, the baby stuff during the homeers and all the trash talking the dude does.
21:55 --> 21:59 [SPEAKER_00]: He feels like somebody that could in two months, especially if things go well.
22:00 --> 22:13 [SPEAKER_00]: really become a guy that fans gravitate to because if he's playing well and he plays with fire and he's and he's rocking the baby and and he's barking at other teams like who doesn't love a guy like that especially when he's on your own team.
22:13 --> 22:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what you also know doc he is getting on the mic within the next two weeks.
22:19 --> 22:19 [SPEAKER_01]: That is happening.
22:20 --> 22:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope so.
22:21 --> 22:22 [SPEAKER_00]: We need to scheme something up for him.
22:23 --> 22:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we can think of a couple things.
22:25 --> 22:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Washington state trivia.
22:27 --> 22:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, he's a Washington state trivia guy.
22:30 --> 22:31 [SPEAKER_01]: When you're new to town, you got to do it.
22:32 --> 22:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's required, it's required materials at this point.
22:37 --> 22:43 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, otherwise, like, here's the thing, it fits on your roster.
22:43 --> 22:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I coming into this, I didn't think that first base was as big of a need at as third.
22:49 --> 22:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought there was a solid chance they got through this deadline without acquiring a first basement.
22:54 --> 22:55 [SPEAKER_01]: And they would say, look,
22:56 --> 23:07 [SPEAKER_01]: If we go out and get a third baseman, a reliever, in some world, a starter, if it works outright, we can be okay with what our current first space situation is now that Luke Rayley's back.
23:08 --> 23:11 [SPEAKER_01]: But given that Josh Taylor was available at this price, she had to do it.
23:12 --> 23:18 [SPEAKER_01]: You had to go out there and you had to get someone to actually place first base, not a right field or in a second basement playing first instead.
23:19 --> 23:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And now you can move the guys to the other part of the roster.
23:21 --> 23:27 [SPEAKER_01]: As we mentioned, Solana will probably still get his at baths when there's lefties on the mound in place of Josh Nailer.
23:27 --> 23:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Josh can come off the bench and hit.
23:29 --> 23:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Never a bad thing.
23:30 --> 23:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Luke Rayley can go back to his actual position out in the outfield.
23:34 --> 23:38 [SPEAKER_01]: This leads the question, Lyle, of what do you do with Dom can zone now?
23:40 --> 23:49 [SPEAKER_00]: either you have to keep playing them or he's going to be part of a trade because he has played too well at this point to do anything with except for continue to play.
23:49 --> 23:50 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got to play.
23:50 --> 23:57 [SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to have to figure out how between Naylor, Rayleigh, and Dom, how you make that all work.
23:57 --> 24:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Look, when writings are on the mound, you can still have all three of them in the lineup.
24:02 --> 24:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Naylor can play first.
24:03 --> 24:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Rayleigh can play right.
24:04 --> 24:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Dom would de-H.
24:05 --> 24:06 [SPEAKER_00]: You have Randy and left.
24:06 --> 24:07 [SPEAKER_00]: You can still make a work.
24:08 --> 24:08 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
24:09 --> 24:09 [SPEAKER_01]: You can.
24:11 --> 24:15 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see, I guess, in the next week on what happens.
24:16 --> 24:16 [SPEAKER_01]: But, sure.
24:17 --> 24:19 [SPEAKER_01]: It would not look good, I think if they sent him back down.
24:19 --> 24:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Just no, there's no reason to send him back down.
24:22 --> 24:25 [SPEAKER_00]: No, if they sent him back down, it's now practice at this point.
24:26 --> 24:28 [SPEAKER_00]: He has played way too well to have that happen.
24:30 --> 24:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to say a little something about BG as we wrap this up?
24:33 --> 24:35 [SPEAKER_00]: So do people want to at least give us a little credit?
24:35 --> 24:40 [SPEAKER_00]: That was twenty four straight minutes right there where we put personal feelings aside.
24:41 --> 24:42 [SPEAKER_00]: We were fired up.
24:42 --> 24:44 [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about how good the trade is and it is.
24:44 --> 24:45 [SPEAKER_00]: That hasn't changed.
24:45 --> 24:48 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a good trade and it shows the Mariners or serious about winning.
24:49 --> 24:50 [SPEAKER_00]: That part does have a success.
24:51 --> 24:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I did have to be BG man of everybody you could have traded.
24:55 --> 24:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Why did it have to be him?
24:58 --> 25:00 [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't mention the trade package at the top for the reason.
25:01 --> 25:06 [SPEAKER_01]: So the Mariners sent Brandon Garcia R guy who just made his MLB debut this week.
25:06 --> 25:09 [SPEAKER_01]: We're so, so excited for him.
25:09 --> 25:14 [SPEAKER_01]: And then Ashton is as well, another pitching prospect in the Mariners system.
25:14 --> 25:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.
25:15 --> 25:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I wish they chose another arm.
25:17 --> 25:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the Diamondbacks must be as high on him as we are.
25:22 --> 25:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Must be.
25:23 --> 25:24 [SPEAKER_00]: It feels that way.
25:24 --> 25:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they said they wanted young pitching, right?
25:28 --> 25:39 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you want to spin this positively and make this less about us and more about Brandon, the Diamondbacks rotation is not in a good spot.
25:39 --> 25:42 [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to lose Galen and Merrill Kelly at the end of the year to free agency.
25:43 --> 25:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Erod's been a shell of himself since he's gotten to Arizona.
25:48 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_00]: They may want Brandon Garcia to be a starter.
25:50 --> 25:52 [SPEAKER_00]: And if that is the case, then
25:54 --> 25:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I have to be nothing but happy for BG because I'm sure he would love to be a starter long term.
25:58 --> 26:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And if he's going to get that chance in Arizona, then it's probably the most ideal situation for the guy.
26:06 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_00]: So in that scenario, yeah, we'd be fired up for him because if that is the Diamondbacks plan, he could probably spend the rest of the year down at their AAA affiliate in Reno.
26:18 --> 26:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have that right.
26:19 --> 26:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
26:20 --> 26:23 [SPEAKER_00]: In Reno, maybe building his workload back up.
26:24 --> 26:47 [SPEAKER_00]: go to three innings at a time as he starts to like acclimate himself into a new organization in the offseason he starts to prepare and build a workload back up as a starter and then he could come in a Diamondbacks camp next year ready to be a starter and prepare to be a starter and if that's the case then as sad as it is for us as much we're gonna as much as we'll miss them like that would be pretty cool for him if he ultimately gets to start
26:49 --> 27:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And there was really no path to him starting here, by the way, the Mariners Farm System is shaking out, especially given Cade, and Jrangelo, and Ryan Sloan, and the five guys currently in the rotation, and Logan going up, and Emerson Hancock still in the organization, really, really, really difficult path to start.
27:09 --> 27:14 [SPEAKER_01]: And starting is the path to making the big bucks in major league baseball.
27:14 --> 27:16 [SPEAKER_01]: You get your way more valuable,
27:17 --> 27:19 [SPEAKER_01]: as a starter than as a reliever.
27:19 --> 27:26 [SPEAKER_01]: So for the long-term security of his time in Major League Baseball, like it's got to be very exciting for him.
27:26 --> 27:27 [SPEAKER_01]: We are really going to miss him.
27:28 --> 27:31 [SPEAKER_01]: It was the coolest thing ever to see him at the ballpark this week.
27:31 --> 27:36 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't step foot inside the ballpark, didn't come to the city until he was promoted to Seattle.
27:36 --> 27:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, outside of the awards ceremony last year, but outside of that had not come to the ballpark since then.
27:41 --> 27:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And he was soaking it all in and seemed like it was super cool.
27:45 --> 27:46 [SPEAKER_01]: We got to meet his family this week.
27:46 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_01]: That was awesome as well.
27:48 --> 27:48 [SPEAKER_01]: You guys are awesome.
27:48 --> 27:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.
27:49 --> 27:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks a lot for saying hi.
27:50 --> 27:52 [SPEAKER_01]: That was super cool.
27:52 --> 27:54 [SPEAKER_01]: It was awesome to get to watch him.
27:54 --> 27:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And we, I mean, we are really going to miss him.
27:56 --> 27:56 [SPEAKER_01]: That's yeah.
27:57 --> 28:01 [SPEAKER_01]: He's been a friend of the pod for for the time we've been tracking along.
28:01 --> 28:02 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's been in the Mariners organization.
28:02 --> 28:03 [SPEAKER_01]: He's been really good to us.
28:04 --> 28:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And we're, you know, we're going to miss him.
28:06 --> 28:23 [SPEAKER_00]: like when we put out our merch he would like he responded to it almost right away it's like I would like I need one of those hoodies and we said we'll send you one and not only do we send one but like he put it out on a story it's like these like this is sick is what he's talking about and he's got it hanging up in his locker down in Arkansas and
28:24 --> 28:27 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, as soon as he still has it, I think I'm pretty sure he still has it.
28:27 --> 28:32 [SPEAKER_00]: But like, yeah, as an example, like, he's somebody that's become a real, a real friend of the pot.
28:32 --> 28:33 [SPEAKER_00]: He's an awesome dude.
28:33 --> 28:34 [SPEAKER_00]: He's super easy to root for.
28:34 --> 28:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you said, we met his mom, sister, fiance, a couple other people while they were there at the park this week who were, you know, couldn't have been any nicer and were incredibly supportive of us.
28:47 --> 28:49 [SPEAKER_00]: We're super fired up for him for every reason.
28:49 --> 28:49 [SPEAKER_00]: And
28:51 --> 29:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like it was those couple days you just hadn't hadn't see out on the big leagues were sick like you don't ever you guys say that you don't ever guy be like yeah, I'm not stepping foot in this city until I get called up to the big leagues because I have to earn it I have to earn the right to be in a big league city I have to earn the right to be in a big league ballpark and I want to like you know save that until I've earned it so
29:11 --> 29:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're, we're gonna miss them.
29:13 --> 29:16 [SPEAKER_00]: It also, I mean, if you want, like, I'll add one more thing to this.
29:17 --> 29:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Not only was it awesome to talk to, like, Brandon himself, the day of his debut and the day of getting called up to see how excited he was, but when we talked to Logan that day, Logan Evans, who, you know, Shocker, we talked to pretty often, we're at the ballpark.
29:35 --> 29:49 [SPEAKER_00]: He he he walks right over to us or whatever and he's like Dude how about BG and he's and he's all fired up for him because he was saying how they were sitting there all both of him and Brandon were saying how back when they got drafted two years ago.
29:50 --> 29:51 [SPEAKER_00]: They were sitting in that
29:52 --> 30:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, complex dorm together, because they were roommates right after getting drafted and talked about despite being eleven and twelve round picks whose college careers didn't go the way they probably wanted it to go.
30:02 --> 30:03 [SPEAKER_00]: They said, dude, who cares?
30:03 --> 30:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Why not us?
30:04 --> 30:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Not only can we get to the big leagues, let's go get there together.
30:06 --> 30:07 [SPEAKER_00]: That happened.
30:08 --> 30:11 [SPEAKER_00]: So, as two guys who are like staples of this podcast,
30:12 --> 30:18 [SPEAKER_00]: to see it happen together with sick, and yeah, then this afternoon to see Brandon get traded just a couple days after making the debut.
30:18 --> 30:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, objectively, of course, it's a good trade to go get Josh Naylor, but that doesn't mean emotionally personally for the sake of this podcast.
30:25 --> 30:27 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not, it's not a shot to the heart, too.
30:28 --> 30:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I hope he helped spread the Marine Lair pod brand down there in Arizona.
30:32 --> 30:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I know he's not going to get to wear his sweater as much down there.
30:36 --> 30:38 [SPEAKER_01]: It'll be a little hotter, but maybe, maybe in the winter.
30:38 --> 30:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Annie's in a different org now, but it's still good, it's still good merch.
30:44 --> 30:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's true, it's still support.
30:45 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_00]: And everybody can, anybody listening can get theirs too.
30:48 --> 30:55 [SPEAKER_00]: So over at marinelayerpod.com, but yeah, man, like again, ultimately maybe Brandon's pretty excited about this.
30:55 --> 30:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the Diamondbacks do want him to be a starter, and that would be sick.
30:58 --> 31:01 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, this is what's hard.
31:01 --> 31:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Like this is like, and I guess we're experiencing it in real time here when you make
31:07 --> 31:13 [SPEAKER_00]: relationships with people, especially good ones with athletes, and they leave the organization like it's just something you have to learn to deal with.
31:14 --> 31:21 [SPEAKER_00]: And when you get to know a lot of the minor leagueers, the unfortunate reality is, you know, only so many of them stick in the big leagues long term.
31:21 --> 31:27 [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of them get traded, a lot of them, you know, have their careers end while in the miners, etc.
31:27 --> 31:30 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're kind of learning that in real time here.
31:30 --> 31:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this was the first big one that we've really had to
31:33 --> 31:34 [SPEAKER_00]: kind of live through.
31:34 --> 31:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:35 --> 31:40 [SPEAKER_00]: But, yeah, it's, if he's excited about it, we're happy for him.
31:40 --> 31:41 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just obviously we're bummed out.
31:41 --> 31:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
31:43 --> 31:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited for his opportunity.
31:44 --> 31:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to kick ass down their Arizona.
31:46 --> 31:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to have a blast.
31:48 --> 31:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, on top of that, I think it's this is a very exciting time for, for everybody, because the Mariners, in the big picture, while the Mariners went out in their series.
31:57 --> 31:58 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's what we want.
31:58 --> 31:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
32:00 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Who's gonna fill our new Mount Rushmore though?
32:02 --> 32:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Cause I'm thinking about like the ultimate, the ultimate guys of the pod.
32:05 --> 32:14 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it was fair to say that for a while it's been Logan, Evans, it's been Brandon, it's been Emerson Hancock and probably Gabe Spire.
32:14 --> 32:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Is that feel right?
32:15 --> 32:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
32:16 --> 32:18 [SPEAKER_00]: We need a new person on the Mount Rushmore now.
32:18 --> 32:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Now that we don't like have relationships with other people in the organization we do, but you know, those are the guys we've really gotten to know for a while.
32:27 --> 32:30 [SPEAKER_01]: How about a, how about Scott Boris?
32:30 --> 32:33 [SPEAKER_01]: We saw him at the park, saw him at the park.
32:33 --> 32:37 [SPEAKER_01]: The six of you get to mention, since that's the straight way down.
32:37 --> 32:44 [SPEAKER_01]: We're planning on talking about seeing Scottie at the ballpark on Tuesday when Kate Anderson was there for his press conference.
32:45 --> 32:46 [SPEAKER_01]: We were, uh, I was wrong.
32:46 --> 32:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll put the percentage way too low.
32:48 --> 32:57 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, just by being in the ballpark with us, Scott Morris has made the Marine Lair podcast Mount Rushmore and he's going to start willing his clients to Seattle.
32:57 --> 33:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's made some incredible content for us just by his presence being in Seattle and at Timo will park the other day.
33:04 --> 33:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for those who listen to Wednesday's episode, TJ put the odds of Boris being there with Kate Anderson at fifteen percent and I was like, oh, I think it's going to be higher than that.
33:11 --> 33:27 [SPEAKER_00]: He was there and I got to tell you it was interesting to watch because if I'm going to quote Taylor Swift here for a minute and sing one of our most popular songs when you see Scott Boris and you see the Mariners, all I can say is, well, I'm not going to sing.
33:27 --> 33:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to make people listen to them.
33:31 --> 33:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to make, I don't want to be nails on a chalkboard for people.
33:34 --> 33:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
33:35 --> 33:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Fine, you want, fine.
33:36 --> 33:37 [SPEAKER_00]: You want like, fifteen seconds of it?
33:37 --> 33:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
33:38 --> 33:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Of what that relationship holds and seeing them together.
33:42 --> 33:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Cause baby, now we got bad blood.
33:45 --> 33:47 [SPEAKER_00]: You, oh, I forget the second line.
33:48 --> 33:51 [SPEAKER_00]: But take a look what you've done.
33:51 --> 33:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Cause baby, now we got bad blood.
33:54 --> 33:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Now we got problems.
33:56 --> 33:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think we can solve.
33:59 --> 34:01 [SPEAKER_00]: You made a, there we go.
34:03 --> 34:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Nice job.
34:04 --> 34:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry for the nails on the chalkboard, but we know they don't have a good relationship.
34:09 --> 34:16 [SPEAKER_00]: So to see them there, like talking to Jerry, talking to a couple of the owners were like, wow, this is interesting.
34:16 --> 34:18 [SPEAKER_00]: This is interesting.
34:18 --> 34:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I got a really good photo.
34:20 --> 34:24 [SPEAKER_01]: If you follow us on social, you would see I got a really good photo.
34:24 --> 34:25 [SPEAKER_01]: You got the full Jerry smile.
34:26 --> 34:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Looking at Scott, you got Scott holding his arms out, palms up, doing a motion.
34:32 --> 34:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh,
34:34 --> 34:37 [SPEAKER_01]: If they ever make a deal, we got it.
34:38 --> 34:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, the way I described it, if you want to go look at that photo, it's on our Twitter and our Instagram.
34:45 --> 34:52 [SPEAKER_00]: The way I described it is Jerry legitimately looks like he's doing the Kendrick Lamar smile at the Super Bowl when he stares right into the camera.
34:53 --> 34:54 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what it looks like.
34:55 --> 35:02 [SPEAKER_00]: So that happened and the other thing that happened at the ballpark on Tuesday and actually relevant to our trade deadline talk a little bit here.
35:02 --> 35:04 [SPEAKER_00]: This will be the last thing and then we can wrap this up.
35:05 --> 35:08 [SPEAKER_00]: because I'm sure people are actually waiting to hear this come out, so we'll get it out for people.
35:08 --> 35:16 [SPEAKER_00]: But Jerry was as a result of Kate Anderson signing his contract, doing his press conference, being out on the field, talking a bunch of the players on Tuesday.
35:16 --> 35:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Jerry was out and around, again, we said, I was talking to Scott Boris for a while, and then he was sitting in the Mariners dugout for a bit, talking to a few people.
35:23 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_00]: TJ and I are probably twenty feet away from him, and there's plenty of people between us, but, you know, there's a lot of media people hanging out in the dugout.
35:31 --> 35:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's one of those dugout Q&A's getting ready to start a bunch of season ticket holders were led into the ballpark early and there's people filing in and it was going to be Kate Anderson talking as the special guess which he was.
35:44 --> 35:46 [SPEAKER_00]: But his fans are starting to file in.
35:47 --> 36:03 [SPEAKER_00]: there are people who are starting to take their seats and there were people who recognized us and usually, you know, it's not like players a lot of the time when people call out to players and a lot of times they, you know, they have to get inside and they might not like sit there and have a full-on conversation with fans screaming out to them.
36:03 --> 36:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Usually if there's people at the ballpark before the game who will yell out to us, like we'll turn around and we'll actually talk to them, even though they're behind the netting and all that and have a conversation with them, we're always happy to do it.
36:15 --> 36:25 [SPEAKER_00]: But this guy, as the conversation's getting ready to get underway with Cade, sees me and he yells out to me, he goes, blah, blah, blah, blah.
36:26 --> 36:27 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like turning around.
36:27 --> 36:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, what's up, dude?
36:28 --> 36:28 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like,
36:29 --> 36:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Go ask Jerry where Gino is.
36:31 --> 36:32 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know where?
36:33 --> 36:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Go ask him.
36:34 --> 36:35 [SPEAKER_00]: He's standing right over there.
36:35 --> 36:43 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm thinking of myself, I mean, the way you're screaming, you can just go tell Jerry's going to yourself because I'm pretty sure he can hear you.
36:44 --> 36:51 [SPEAKER_00]: But so I feel like turn away and like, you know, like a little bit, but I'm looking at that fan and I am kind of laughing.
36:51 --> 36:52 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's not kind of laughing.
36:52 --> 36:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I was laughing.
36:53 --> 36:54 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's like,
36:54 --> 36:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Who?
36:55 --> 36:56 [SPEAKER_00]: That is the first.
36:57 --> 36:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, you got some, you got some guts.
36:59 --> 37:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I got to tell you.
37:00 --> 37:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you ain't made the one behind the fence, too.
37:04 --> 37:07 [SPEAKER_01]: You're the one standing on the same field as Jerry, if you want to go over and ask him.
37:07 --> 37:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
37:08 --> 37:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
37:10 --> 37:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Man, that was funny.
37:11 --> 37:12 [SPEAKER_01]: That was really funny.
37:12 --> 37:13 [SPEAKER_01]: That was funny.
37:13 --> 37:19 [SPEAKER_01]: A little, a little, a little, a little, a little tense, but that was, that was pretty funny.
37:19 --> 37:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Because we didn't know exactly what to do.
37:20 --> 37:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, obviously we have talked plenty about like, this fan base is OG no back, which they are.
37:25 --> 37:33 [SPEAKER_00]: But like, when a fan is screaming out to you to walk over to the president of baseball ops, who like, again, like, we don't really know Jerry.
37:33 --> 37:39 [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I don't think he would have just like had a warm smile on his face when we walk up to him and go.
37:40 --> 37:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Where's Gino?
37:43 --> 37:45 [SPEAKER_00]: This guy made us ask, so here we are asking.
37:45 --> 37:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, here we are asking comment.
37:48 --> 37:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
37:49 --> 37:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we didn't have the mic.
37:51 --> 37:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Hold, it's sitting right in our hands and pointed at them.
37:53 --> 37:53 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
37:55 --> 37:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that was something.
37:56 --> 37:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was an eventful day at the park.
37:58 --> 38:06 [SPEAKER_01]: But there was it was a busy Tuesday probably the busiest Tuesday I've ever seen and by the way, come also kind of unrelated.
38:06 --> 38:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it was the last time they got forty thousand on a Wednesday day game.
38:12 --> 38:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess because it's the summertime I guess Blue my mind yesterday
38:18 --> 38:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still, are they still,
38:43 --> 38:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe having Josh Nailer and maybe Geno Swarr is would bring an extra few thousand of the stands a night.
38:48 --> 38:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's the difference right there between nineteenth and nineteenth and thirteenth.
38:54 --> 38:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I was going to say this.
38:55 --> 38:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Josh Nailer trade should help that because people would be more excited.
38:58 --> 39:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I get all fans want is to for you to show that you're serious.
39:02 --> 39:04 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what our biggest beef about the offseason with.
39:04 --> 39:06 [SPEAKER_01]: You didn't show that you were serious.
39:06 --> 39:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Now you're showing that you're serious and people can appreciate it.
39:09 --> 39:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
39:11 --> 39:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Quick word.
39:12 --> 39:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk to you guys about our friends over at Pagaches Pubedified that's over in Kirkland.
39:16 --> 39:18 [SPEAKER_00]: You guys know it's an awesome spot to hang out.
39:18 --> 39:19 [SPEAKER_00]: You're going to want to go watch Josh Nailer.
39:20 --> 39:24 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you need a spot to go hang out with your friends and watch his first few games in a Mariners uniform, head over there.
39:24 --> 39:25 [SPEAKER_00]: It's an awesome spot.
39:25 --> 39:27 [SPEAKER_00]: There's twenty TVs in the place.
39:27 --> 39:29 [SPEAKER_00]: So there's no shortage of watching Mariners baseball.
39:29 --> 39:31 [SPEAKER_00]: You can also play some pool and darts.
39:31 --> 39:32 [SPEAKER_00]: There's awesome food.
39:32 --> 39:34 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you go during happy hour, you guys.
39:34 --> 39:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Drink specials are three and four dollars from two to six p.m.
39:38 --> 39:40 [SPEAKER_00]: That's Monday through Friday, happy hours, two to six p.m.
39:40 --> 39:42 [SPEAKER_00]: And drinks are three and four bucks.
39:42 --> 39:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Those are awesome deals over at Pagotch's Pubbedy five in Kirkland.
39:46 --> 39:48 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that just about does it.
39:48 --> 39:49 [SPEAKER_00]: People should be fired up.
39:50 --> 39:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Josh Nailer season.
39:51 --> 39:52 [SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully it's the first of many moves.
39:52 --> 39:55 [SPEAKER_00]: They make to put this roster over the top because they've got a chance to do it.
39:56 --> 39:57 [SPEAKER_00]: This is step number one.
39:57 --> 39:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's a very, very good first step.
40:00 --> 40:02 [SPEAKER_01]: One, you sit here and make a prediction.
40:03 --> 40:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Who's next?
40:06 --> 40:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm so bipolar about my mariners thoughts and I know that because one day I'll feel like oh they're gonna do nothing and then now I'm gonna say you know what?
40:13 --> 40:14 [SPEAKER_00]: They're getting griffin jacks.
40:14 --> 40:14 [SPEAKER_00]: How about that?
40:15 --> 40:16 [SPEAKER_01]: It's funny you sit there.
40:16 --> 40:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I was gonna say the same thing.
40:17 --> 40:18 [SPEAKER_01]: They are gonna show out
40:20 --> 40:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, you know, let me let me modify it a little bit.
40:22 --> 40:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're going to pay a little bit less for a reliever just under jacks.
40:27 --> 40:39 [SPEAKER_01]: So David Benner David, David Benner with the pirates that'll cost a little bit less, a little bit older, not quite as good, but still gets the job done pitches in the seventh inning.
40:39 --> 40:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that would be a winning move right there if they went did that definitely.
40:45 --> 40:51 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, that just about wraps up this edition of the Marine Layer Podcast, breaking news edition of the pod.
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