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00:00 --> 00:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Both of an episode number two, seventy-seven of the Marine Lair podcast.
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01:05 --> 01:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And welcome each of this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just baseball podcast network recording on Thursday evening July, thirty first post deadline.
01:16 --> 01:18 [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't been able to keep up with these mailbox as much.
01:18 --> 01:19 [SPEAKER_01]: We owe you guys mail bags.
01:20 --> 01:25 [SPEAKER_01]: So here we are post deadline mail bag additions want to answer your guys's best questions.
01:25 --> 01:26 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a fun deadline.
01:26 --> 01:28 [SPEAKER_01]: It was an entertaining deadline.
01:28 --> 01:34 [SPEAKER_01]: So you guys have plenty to ask about and we're happy to talk about it now and we love you guys coming up with with topics for us.
01:34 --> 01:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So let's dive into it.
01:35 --> 01:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's dive into it as we sit here and you guys are listening to this on Monday right after the Mariners series concludes against the Texas Rangers.
01:44 --> 01:52 [SPEAKER_00]: We mentioned it at the end of Friday's episode, but TJ and I were in California this weekend for our friends wedding from ASU.
01:53 --> 01:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Congrats to them.
01:54 --> 02:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And as we said ahead of time recording this, um, congratulations to the Mariners for taking three of four from the Texas Rangers.
02:00 --> 02:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's go up and up.
02:01 --> 02:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's pop it up for the boys.
02:02 --> 02:03 [SPEAKER_00]: They did their job.
02:03 --> 02:04 [SPEAKER_00]: We love to see it.
02:04 --> 02:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Gino's back, baby.
02:05 --> 02:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he's hit three home runs already.
02:08 --> 02:10 [SPEAKER_01]: How confident are you that's going to become true?
02:11 --> 02:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Seven seven out of ten.
02:13 --> 02:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
02:14 --> 02:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I like it.
02:14 --> 02:15 [SPEAKER_00]: It's level is.
02:15 --> 02:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to be positive.
02:16 --> 02:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, like we just wrapped up a really good deadline.
02:19 --> 02:20 [SPEAKER_00]: People are positive.
02:20 --> 02:21 [SPEAKER_00]: We want it to be positive.
02:21 --> 02:22 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to be positive.
02:22 --> 02:23 [SPEAKER_00]: That is very positive.
02:24 --> 02:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just imagining the comment section if they somehow get swept this weekend and you congratulate them winning three or four.
02:31 --> 02:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Fine.
02:32 --> 02:33 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll say this as well.
02:34 --> 02:38 [SPEAKER_00]: If the Mariners got swept this weekend and you just heard me say what I said.
02:39 --> 02:39 [SPEAKER_00]: No, you didn't.
02:40 --> 02:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Men in black, brainwipe.
02:42 --> 02:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't say it.
02:44 --> 02:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Nope, I like that.
02:46 --> 02:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll go three or four, too.
02:47 --> 02:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I do like the positivity allow.
02:49 --> 02:49 [SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
02:50 --> 02:52 [SPEAKER_01]: So we are recording this a little bit ahead of time.
02:52 --> 02:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because we're wanted to answer you guys' questions.
02:54 --> 02:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
02:55 --> 02:56 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're flying back here on this Monday.
02:56 --> 02:57 [SPEAKER_00]: The wedding was Sunday.
02:58 --> 03:01 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're flying back Monday and we wanted to make sure we still got an episode out for you guys.
03:02 --> 03:07 [SPEAKER_00]: We will talk plenty about the last week of Mariners baseball on Wednesday's episode.
03:08 --> 03:28 [SPEAKER_01]: let's get into the mail back a lot and let's start on patreon reminder guys if you want priority for mailbag questions go sign up for a patreon and you get the priority to be on these mail bags you have a question for us will answer it right here on the episode just like tanner does tanner's awesome uh... and tanner sends in a question first question here today his uh... his
03:29 --> 03:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd say general question is what is your general thoughts on the deadline?
03:32 --> 03:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Is there any team in the division?
03:33 --> 03:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I like this question better.
03:34 --> 03:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Any team in the division that scares you at all with what they did at the deadline?
03:41 --> 03:45 [SPEAKER_00]: So we talked about a plenty on Wednesday for the genome episode, or I guess I was Thursday.
03:46 --> 03:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Thursday for the genome episode, and then Friday for our trade deadline recap.
03:50 --> 03:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Mariners had a really good deadline.
03:52 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_00]: We gave them an A, but in terms of a latter part of the question, which I think is the really interesting part of this, who scares you in the division?
03:59 --> 04:01 [SPEAKER_00]: If I had to pick somebody, it's the Rangers.
04:01 --> 04:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Because Tyler Mallie's battled some injuries for the Rangers, Kuma Rocker and Jack Lider on some innings limits.
04:08 --> 04:19 [SPEAKER_00]: So for as good as the Rangers rotations, Ben and as good as Nathan of all these Ben, even though he isn't pitching this weekend against the Mariners or didn't pitch this weekend against the Mariners, it's a good rotation.
04:20 --> 04:27 [SPEAKER_00]: It also seemed like it had a chance to crumble a little bit because you were going to have guys cap at an innings limit and malleys battled some injuries.
04:27 --> 04:35 [SPEAKER_00]: But when you go get Merrill Kelly, and you also get to dynamite, like, no, not dynamite bullpin arms, but two solid bullpin arms in Danny Klom and Phil Maiton to help you.
04:36 --> 04:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, makes you take note of the rangers a little bit.
04:38 --> 04:40 [SPEAKER_00]: So if I had to pick somebody I'd say the rangers.
04:41 --> 04:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll switch it up.
04:42 --> 04:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm still gonna say the Astros even though their talent might not reflect it because somehow some way, they always manage to do what they do.
04:51 --> 04:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're pitching staff is still undeniably awesome.
04:54 --> 04:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So I would say it's still the Astros.
04:56 --> 04:59 [SPEAKER_01]: And what if, Lyle, what if Carlos Carray goes to Houston?
05:00 --> 05:06 [SPEAKER_01]: And for two months, he's old Carlos Carray again, or he's even Carlos Carray of last year.
05:06 --> 05:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just reinvigorated.
05:08 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that he's on a team that's chasing for a division title.
05:12 --> 05:13 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that would be less than ideal.
05:14 --> 05:15 [SPEAKER_01]: They would not be good.
05:15 --> 05:23 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I will say it would be worse if the astros ended up trading for Gino, but they didn't trade for Gino because Gino's ours, not theirs.
05:23 --> 05:24 [SPEAKER_00]: No, kidding.
05:25 --> 05:26 [SPEAKER_00]: You can settle with Ramonarius.
05:26 --> 05:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, the astros deadline was Ramonarius, Haseus Sanchez, and then yes, Carlos Carrad, but I said it on Friday.
05:33 --> 05:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll say it again here on Monday.
05:36 --> 05:41 [SPEAKER_00]: The reason people get scared when they hear the name Carlos Correa is because he's such a name brand.
05:41 --> 05:43 [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously he can turn it on at any time.
05:44 --> 05:55 [SPEAKER_00]: But as we're sitting here and recording this on Thursday, right at the end of the trade deadline, Carlos Correa has not been some great baseball player this year.
05:55 --> 05:57 [SPEAKER_00]: By baseball reference, he has O point one war.
05:57 --> 06:02 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm sorry, by OPS plus, I think on Friday's episode, I said one oh two, no, it's ninety two.
06:03 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_00]: ninety two.
06:04 --> 06:07 [SPEAKER_00]: He has not been a great player this year.
06:08 --> 06:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that changes because we know things change in Houston and Houston gets the best out of their guys almost always.
06:14 --> 06:15 [SPEAKER_00]: But aging.
06:16 --> 06:19 [SPEAKER_00]: injury problems, big contractor taking on.
06:19 --> 06:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just not sold.
06:20 --> 06:22 [SPEAKER_00]: That's some unbelievable move.
06:22 --> 06:22 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see.
06:23 --> 06:26 [SPEAKER_00]: But the Rangers and their shorter term moves scare me a little bit more.
06:26 --> 06:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
06:27 --> 06:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's fair.
06:28 --> 06:33 [SPEAKER_01]: And the Rangers might from top to bottom have a more talented roster than the Astros do.
06:35 --> 06:38 [SPEAKER_00]: with Yordon Owl, with Parades Owl, with Pania Owl, yeah.
06:38 --> 06:43 [SPEAKER_00]: And I know Christian Havia was working his way back from Tommy John, but if he gets back in what?
06:43 --> 06:46 [SPEAKER_00]: September, there's no guarantee he's gonna look all that great.
06:46 --> 06:49 [SPEAKER_00]: It takes guys time to really get back into a full swing from Tommy John.
06:49 --> 06:53 [SPEAKER_00]: The Astros, they are just much thinner this year.
06:55 --> 06:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, second question, this one comes in on Patreon too.
06:58 --> 07:01 [SPEAKER_00]: It's from Josh, shout out to Josh, and he said this.
07:01 --> 07:04 [SPEAKER_00]: He actually said I'm a fairly new Mariners fan about three years.
07:05 --> 07:10 [SPEAKER_00]: He wants to know where we think this trade deadline ranks historically for Seattle.
07:11 --> 07:12 [SPEAKER_00]: The best ever.
07:13 --> 07:18 [SPEAKER_01]: They never, I think, acquired more impact at a single deadline than they got at this one.
07:19 --> 07:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Can you remember one?
07:21 --> 07:27 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, the other one people appointed was when they really swung for Luis Castillo in twenty twenty two, but I'll say it again.
07:27 --> 07:30 [SPEAKER_00]: You did not make the secondary move after getting the headliner.
07:31 --> 07:32 [SPEAKER_00]: They complimented it enough.
07:32 --> 07:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Now that team was still great and they broke the drought and they went to the playoffs and it was awesome.
07:36 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_00]: But if we're just talking about the trade deadline after Luis Castillo, you got Kirk Asale, backup catcher.
07:43 --> 07:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Jake Lamb, who's barely hanging on, is a bench outfielder.
07:47 --> 07:52 [SPEAKER_00]: And Matt Boyd, who I know made the All-Star game this year, but when you traded for him, he was just coming off a major injury.
07:52 --> 07:55 [SPEAKER_00]: And he just threw a handful of innings in the bullpen for you.
07:55 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a nice story, because he got to come home and he broke the drought with the team.
07:59 --> 08:00 [SPEAKER_00]: He grew up a diehard fan of that was sick.
08:01 --> 08:05 [SPEAKER_00]: But objectively, with the value of the guys you got after Castillo, it just wasn't there.
08:05 --> 08:09 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners this year, you get the headliner, I guess you got him second in Gino.
08:10 --> 08:20 [SPEAKER_00]: But you get the headliner in Gino, and then you have the complimentary piece in Josh Nailer to compliment it, where it filled two major positions of need, and makes your line up legitimately a force.
08:21 --> 08:28 [SPEAKER_01]: If our age is showing here, and we're not mentioning something in the nineties that matches up to this, you guys, of course, are always welcome to mention it in the comments.
08:29 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_01]: But off the top of my head from everything I remember, I cannot remember this much impact being moved by the Mariners at a deadline.
08:37 --> 08:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do it.
08:38 --> 08:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to pull up the nineteen ninety five card because I have a good memory more because I've watched the mile my documentary a million times I watched it so many times growing up that I have.
08:47 --> 08:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Now it just ingrained in my head but in ninety five if you want to.
08:51 --> 08:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Compare that deadline.
08:53 --> 08:58 [SPEAKER_00]: They made moves that year they went and got normed Charlton that year they went and got Vince Coleman that year.
08:59 --> 09:02 [SPEAKER_00]: They went and got who is the other guy he.
09:03 --> 09:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Tim Belcher they like and maybe these names were a lot of people.
09:07 --> 09:10 [SPEAKER_00]: You just don't even know him to the fans are a little bit older.
09:10 --> 09:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure you do.
09:11 --> 09:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like they may move that year and they made the roster better, but I don't know if it's quite the level of getting an A. You're heading as far as for who he's been in twenty twenty five.
09:21 --> 09:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think this is the best deadline they've ever had.
09:24 --> 09:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, most homeruns ever traded at a deadline for genome.
09:28 --> 09:29 [SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to match that.
09:29 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_01]: They weren't no one's ever traded for that.
09:31 --> 09:33 [SPEAKER_01]: So you can say just based off of that.
09:33 --> 09:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that is the most impact they've ever gotten.
09:35 --> 09:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully for the Mariners, it pays off.
09:38 --> 09:39 [SPEAKER_01]: So thank you for the question, Josh.
09:39 --> 09:43 [SPEAKER_01]: And thank you for signing up for a Patreon whenever our newest Patreon subscribers.
09:43 --> 09:44 [SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome.
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09:46 --> 09:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Next question is also on Patreon.
09:48 --> 09:56 [SPEAKER_01]: This comes from Robert, and Robert's question is, is it fair to call the starting pitching the clear wink link on this team if so, how weird is that?
09:58 --> 09:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's certainly weird.
10:00 --> 10:02 [SPEAKER_00]: There's supposed to be the group you don't worry about one bit.
10:05 --> 10:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Would you call it the rotation of the bullpen?
10:08 --> 10:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
10:10 --> 10:11 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what you're worried about both.
10:13 --> 10:14 [SPEAKER_01]: for different reasons, though.
10:14 --> 10:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the bullpen is talented enough, talented enough.
10:18 --> 10:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm worried the rotation is just not pitching well enough.
10:21 --> 10:32 [SPEAKER_01]: For some reason, I can't pinpoint the exact reason, reason whether it just be year-over-year regression, whether it be the injuries, whether it be some other factor I have no idea about.
10:33 --> 10:37 [SPEAKER_01]: But for each their own reason, they've struggled at times this year.
10:37 --> 10:40 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not the most confident guy in the world.
10:40 --> 10:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't just sit here and guarantee the rotation is going to be top five and the bullpen's going to be fine.
10:45 --> 10:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Can't say that.
10:46 --> 10:50 [SPEAKER_01]: But at least with one, I have the talent argument to fall back on where I say, all right.
10:50 --> 10:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the Mariners rotation.
10:52 --> 10:55 [SPEAKER_01]: You could argue has two clear ones in Brian, one, Logan Gilbert.
10:56 --> 11:04 [SPEAKER_01]: George Kirby and Luis Castillo who are two's and Bryce Miller pitched like a one last year when he came back assuming he comes back healthy and he pitches well.
11:05 --> 11:06 [SPEAKER_01]: He pitched well last year.
11:06 --> 11:08 [SPEAKER_01]: He was a number one last year when he threw.
11:09 --> 11:12 [SPEAKER_01]: So like that's what you know you have in your rotation when it's all healthy.
11:13 --> 11:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't really see it about the bullpen.
11:14 --> 11:19 [SPEAKER_01]: You say, all right, we have Andre's Munoz, all star reliever, one of the best relievers in baseball.
11:19 --> 11:25 [SPEAKER_01]: We have Matt Prash, Arguo has the best stuff of any reliever in baseball and Gabe Spire is one of the most underrated relievers in baseball.
11:25 --> 11:26 [SPEAKER_01]: It's how nasty he is.
11:27 --> 11:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Then after that, what are we waiting for Gregory Santos?
11:32 --> 11:33 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no way.
11:33 --> 11:35 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no way he's back in this bullpen this year.
11:36 --> 11:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think so either.
11:37 --> 11:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I saw people floating that out there.
11:39 --> 11:42 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, okay, so it's Caleb Ferguson that you just traded for.
11:44 --> 11:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Edward Bazarto is not matching up with other players in better bullpens.
11:48 --> 11:49 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not happening.
11:51 --> 11:52 [SPEAKER_00]: No, but those are probably your five.
11:52 --> 11:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Muno's brash, fire, Ferguson, Bazarto.
11:55 --> 11:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Those are probably the first five you're going to go to in the last three.
11:58 --> 11:59 [SPEAKER_00]: You got to pick.
11:59 --> 12:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
12:00 --> 12:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, man, like the mayor has had a great deadline, but it is fair if you're a little concerned about what the bullpen looks like and not getting that extra leverage arm.
12:07 --> 12:08 [SPEAKER_00]: It's fair.
12:08 --> 12:09 [SPEAKER_00]: You can have the worries.
12:11 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Next question in the mailbag comes from Zach.
12:14 --> 12:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Zach on Instagram says, how hot is Jerry depoto's seat post deadline?
12:19 --> 12:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Big moves were made for sure, but the moves feel like they were just short of a quote unquote all in push.
12:25 --> 12:33 [SPEAKER_01]: They could have really went out and gotten a really could have tried to go get Doran, Griffin Jackson and Ryan Hellsley.
12:34 --> 12:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think he means one of those.
12:36 --> 12:37 [SPEAKER_01]: One is not all three of them.
12:37 --> 12:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
12:37 --> 12:41 [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll dive into the bullpen a little bit more in a later question here on the male bag.
12:41 --> 12:44 [SPEAKER_00]: And we did talk about the bullpen for a bit on Fridays episode two.
12:44 --> 12:46 [SPEAKER_00]: If you haven't checked that out, you definitely should.
12:46 --> 12:53 [SPEAKER_00]: The the seat question is always a fascinating one.
12:53 --> 12:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if the the deadline did that much to change that.
12:57 --> 13:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I think what we always come back to is look, they need to win this year.
13:01 --> 13:06 [SPEAKER_00]: They need to get into the postseason because that would be one playoff appearance in ten years.
13:07 --> 13:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not in the minds of the Mariners executives.
13:09 --> 13:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sitting up there in those board meetings.
13:11 --> 13:14 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's hard for me to say exactly what would happen.
13:15 --> 13:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Do they miss the playoffs this year?
13:18 --> 13:19 [SPEAKER_00]: In terms of if they miss the playoffs this year.
13:20 --> 13:22 [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, you would have to imagine it's
13:23 --> 13:25 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a possibility, right?
13:25 --> 13:30 [SPEAKER_00]: If they don't make it this year, you would think it's at least something that could be on the table.
13:31 --> 13:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, I don't know.
13:33 --> 13:37 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a tough question because this is one of those questions where I know people want a really definitive answer.
13:38 --> 13:45 [SPEAKER_00]: But this is one of those ones that when you're not sitting in those meetings, it's hard to give a very, very, very firm take on something like this.
13:46 --> 13:50 [SPEAKER_00]: But I would say you would expect it would be a conversation if they missed the playoffs again.
13:51 --> 13:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me paint the picture if the opposite result happened at the deadline.
13:55 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you and I know if they went through this deadline and they didn't do enough or didn't do anything at all.
14:00 --> 14:03 [SPEAKER_01]: In my opinion, the seat would be as hot as it would be.
14:03 --> 14:07 [SPEAKER_01]: It would have ever been because it'd be at this point.
14:07 --> 14:09 [SPEAKER_01]: One, playoff appearance in nine seasons.
14:09 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Prime opportunity at the deadline with all this ammo to go trade and you don't trade it.
14:14 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Then there would be no excuse if winning was the goal.
14:17 --> 14:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll add that.
14:18 --> 14:20 [SPEAKER_01]: If winning was the goal, there would be no excuse.
14:21 --> 14:26 [SPEAKER_01]: not to go out there and make the try and make the playoffs and if it doesn't seem like you try, then what is going on here.
14:26 --> 14:27 [SPEAKER_01]: But they didn't do that.
14:28 --> 14:38 [SPEAKER_01]: So if I'm going off of that, I would imagine, yeah, maybe his seat did cool off a little bit at this deadline because he did the job you was supposed to and what fans care about the most.
14:38 --> 14:43 [SPEAKER_01]: It's showing that you care about winning and the Mariners for the next two months showed they very much do care about winning.
14:44 --> 14:44 [SPEAKER_01]: That's important.
14:45 --> 14:46 [SPEAKER_01]: That is a very important part of that.
14:47 --> 14:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think his seat cooled off a little bit.
14:49 --> 14:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's totally off of it.
14:52 --> 14:55 [SPEAKER_01]: If I'm gonna guess, but I'm a lot like you, Lyle.
14:55 --> 15:03 [SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the season, if they miss the playoffs, given how the Mariners ownership group has handled the last few seasons, they haven't made the playoffs.
15:04 --> 15:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I have a solid answer for you for that.
15:08 --> 15:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say.
15:10 --> 15:12 [SPEAKER_01]: But if they do make the playoffs, he's safe.
15:12 --> 15:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Easy.
15:12 --> 15:13 [SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
15:13 --> 15:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
15:14 --> 15:14 [SPEAKER_00]: They get in their safe.
15:15 --> 15:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
15:15 --> 15:18 [SPEAKER_01]: If they may be, you probably get some another couple of years.
15:19 --> 15:19 [SPEAKER_01]: If they make the playoffs.
15:20 --> 15:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably.
15:21 --> 15:24 [SPEAKER_00]: If they miss, again, becomes an interesting conversation.
15:24 --> 15:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what that point with your core core.
15:26 --> 15:30 [SPEAKER_01]: It's two playoff appearances and four seasons and a top five farm system.
15:32 --> 15:33 [SPEAKER_01]: So you're most interested groups are okay with that.
15:34 --> 15:36 [SPEAKER_00]: So you're counting it since the start of twenty two.
15:36 --> 15:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
15:37 --> 15:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and if you remember at twenty one, they actively tried to make the roster worse at the deadline.
15:42 --> 15:44 [SPEAKER_00]: It's still somehow one ninety games, but yeah.
15:44 --> 15:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
15:45 --> 15:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's true.
15:46 --> 15:49 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you look at it that way, yeah, that'd be two and four years.
15:49 --> 15:49 [SPEAKER_00]: And you're right.
15:50 --> 15:52 [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of teams would sit there and say, we're good with that.
15:52 --> 15:54 [SPEAKER_00]: So we will find out.
15:54 --> 15:54 [SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure.
15:56 --> 15:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Next question.
15:56 --> 15:58 [SPEAKER_00]: This one is on Instagram.
15:58 --> 15:59 [SPEAKER_00]: It comes from C underscore wolf.
16:00 --> 16:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And he wants to know, do the Mariners have a chance of keeping Geno and Josh Naylor for twenty twenty six.
16:06 --> 16:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they have a chance of keeping one of them.
16:09 --> 16:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they could keep both of them.
16:10 --> 16:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're going to pay both of them.
16:13 --> 16:18 [SPEAKER_01]: If you listen to us all off season, you could probably pick up the fact the Mariners don't like paying free agent contracts.
16:20 --> 16:25 [SPEAKER_01]: And both of these guys certainly have earned themselves a solid amount of cash and free agency.
16:25 --> 16:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Nailers the trickier one, because I don't know how many years Nailers going to go for.
16:30 --> 16:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I also, I think the murders are going to pick one of two.
16:34 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_01]: They would go for Nailer because Nailer's twenty eight right now and it's better optics and better process to go up and sign a twenty eight year old over a thirty four year old thirty four.
16:45 --> 16:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I think she knows thirty four right now is he gonna enter his age thirty five season next year.
16:50 --> 16:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me just double check to be sure.
16:51 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Now next year will be his age thirty four season.
16:53 --> 16:56 [SPEAKER_00]: He's thirty four right now, but next year is his age thirty four season.
16:56 --> 17:05 [SPEAKER_01]: is a little bit better of an idea to sign a twenty-eight-year-old over a thirty-three-year-old to say a three-year contract, because I think that's what the Mariners are going to try.
17:05 --> 17:10 [SPEAKER_01]: A three-year contract would work a lot better with Gino than it would with Josh Nieler.
17:10 --> 17:16 [SPEAKER_01]: They might not want to offer Gino a three-year contract, I think if they were going to offer... Wait, what?
17:16 --> 17:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Flip that.
17:17 --> 17:19 [SPEAKER_00]: You said a three-year deal would work better for Gino than Nieler.
17:19 --> 17:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you'd be sorry, Gino.
17:20 --> 17:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Flip that.
17:21 --> 17:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Three-year deal would work better for Nailer than Gino.
17:23 --> 17:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Since Gino's age, I think all the manners would offer is...
17:27 --> 17:31 [SPEAKER_01]: a more expensive version of the Mitch Garver contract they gave out.
17:31 --> 17:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I think.
17:33 --> 17:39 [SPEAKER_01]: But Nailer, Nailer, you could do, you could see three or four years pretty comfortably.
17:39 --> 17:40 [SPEAKER_01]: If the Mariners were okay with that.
17:41 --> 17:53 [SPEAKER_01]: But there's no guarantee this team's dulling out free agent dollars, just because they're willing to raise the payroll for two months at the end of the season doesn't mean they're willing to raise payroll for multiple seasons in the out season.
17:53 --> 17:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, as we've seen,
17:55 --> 18:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Three of the last four deadlines we've talked about how they have, you know, they've done great.
18:00 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_00]: They've arguably had the best deadlines three or four years.
18:04 --> 18:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Then they get to the offices and well, things change a little bit.
18:11 --> 18:15 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think we're going to have to see what the narrative looks like come December.
18:15 --> 18:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Is there going to be
18:17 --> 18:42 [SPEAKER_00]: more reports out that there's somehow only fifteen million dollars to spend again and then they can't do anything at all we're going to find out we're going to find out so i think what is your chance yes there's a chance yeah and i think i think you're right of the two nailer would be the more likely one fit makes more sense you have more infielders coming through the pipeline that you could eventually move to third base then you do
18:43 --> 18:45 [SPEAKER_00]: like a true first baseman coming your way.
18:46 --> 18:47 [SPEAKER_00]: First base is one of those positions.
18:48 --> 18:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you usually have to solve through free agency.
18:51 --> 18:59 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't see a ton of first baseman come up through the farm system, not none, but you don't see a lot of them across the league come up and say, yeah, that's our first baseman.
18:59 --> 19:00 [SPEAKER_00]: He's sticking.
19:00 --> 19:04 [SPEAKER_00]: First baseman are usually the guys you acquire, whether it's a trade or free agency.
19:05 --> 19:09 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think for that reason, too, paired with the age, nailer makes a little bit more sense.
19:09 --> 19:10 [SPEAKER_00]: As much as everybody loves genome.
19:11 --> 19:15 [SPEAKER_01]: unless the Mariners have a Nick Kurtz coming up through their system.
19:16 --> 19:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
19:17 --> 19:17 [SPEAKER_01]: What you said.
19:17 --> 19:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
19:18 --> 19:19 [SPEAKER_00]: So there's exceptions, right?
19:19 --> 19:20 [SPEAKER_00]: But it doesn't happen all the time.
19:21 --> 19:25 [SPEAKER_01]: No, because you got to be a plus plus plus plus plus plus, plus bat like he is.
19:25 --> 19:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
19:26 --> 19:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to our next mailback question.
19:27 --> 19:31 [SPEAKER_01]: This comes from Camero Kid, sixty seven on Instagram.
19:32 --> 19:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And this question is, are you, uh, I think it means are you surprised?
19:39 --> 19:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
19:39 --> 19:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry.
19:40 --> 19:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Are we surprised that the Mariners still have eight top one hundred prospects?
19:44 --> 19:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Does that mean the Mariners came up short?
19:47 --> 19:49 [SPEAKER_00]: This is actually an interesting question.
19:49 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a good question.
19:50 --> 19:56 [SPEAKER_00]: My answer is no, they didn't come up short because again, we gave this deadline an A. They won this trade deadline.
19:56 --> 20:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure there's a team that had a better deadline than the Seattle Mariners.
20:01 --> 20:02 [SPEAKER_00]: But there's a difference here.
20:03 --> 20:06 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a difference between coming up short and having the ability to do more.
20:07 --> 20:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Of course they had the ability to do more because you have the prospect capital to do it.
20:11 --> 20:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you said, all your top a hundred guys are still there.
20:14 --> 20:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Harry Ford didn't go anywhere.
20:16 --> 20:17 [SPEAKER_00]: You could have done more.
20:17 --> 20:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't mean doing more was necessarily the smart tactic to take because like we'll talk about in the next question and like we talked about a bit on Friday, the reliever market was insane.
20:28 --> 20:33 [SPEAKER_00]: you would have had to pay what felt like a ridiculous price to go get some of these relievers.
20:34 --> 20:38 [SPEAKER_00]: So no, I don't think it means they came up short that they kept all these guys.
20:38 --> 20:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Now I think it means eventually you will have to be willing to part with some of these guys to get greater talent because not all these prospects are going to be able to get on the field together.
20:47 --> 20:49 [SPEAKER_00]: but it doesn't mean you came up short.
20:50 --> 21:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I also think the way that the person asking this question is looking at this is it's focusing more on who the Mariners gave up as opposed to who the Mariners acquire the focus of the deadline is who you have on your roster to help you go win games not who you traded away for these players.
21:11 --> 21:12 [SPEAKER_01]: to go acquire them.
21:13 --> 21:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's just like it's just the wrong way to look at it.
21:15 --> 21:24 [SPEAKER_01]: If you if you had the ability to trade some of those top one hundred guys and get that level of talent back, we're not talking about the guys they traded away.
21:24 --> 21:30 [SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about the fact they traded for a player who's going to make a meaningful impact on your roster, preferably for multiple seasons.
21:31 --> 21:34 [SPEAKER_01]: They'd have to do that because they traded for three rentals at the deadline.
21:35 --> 21:39 [SPEAKER_00]: which is very unlike them, but feels like their strategy might have changed a little bit.
21:39 --> 21:41 [SPEAKER_00]: They should have done that way earlier.
21:42 --> 21:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they should have, but you know what?
21:44 --> 21:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Better late than ever.
21:45 --> 21:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
21:47 --> 21:52 [SPEAKER_00]: So last question we got here on the mail bag is this one comes from J.M.
21:52 --> 21:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Sun on Instagram, and he asks, did they do enough to help the back end of the bullpen?
21:58 --> 22:03 [SPEAKER_00]: So again, we talked about this for a decent bid on Friday, but we can talk about it again here.
22:03 --> 22:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll throw it to you here.
22:05 --> 22:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Did they get enough help for the back end of the bullpen?
22:10 --> 22:11 [SPEAKER_01]: In a vacuum?
22:11 --> 22:14 [SPEAKER_01]: No, they did not get enough help in the back end of the bullpen.
22:14 --> 22:19 [SPEAKER_01]: If we're not even looking at the hitters, we're not looking at the upgrade that the offense is getting.
22:19 --> 22:24 [SPEAKER_01]: We're not looking at the starting pitching staff potentially bouncing back for the final two months of the season.
22:24 --> 22:26 [SPEAKER_01]: We're just looking at the bullpen.
22:26 --> 22:28 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't think they got enough help.
22:28 --> 22:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I can explain more, but I'd like you can answer first.
22:32 --> 22:33 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you hit that nail on the head.
22:34 --> 22:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:35 --> 22:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, it doesn't mean they had a bad deadline.
22:36 --> 22:37 [SPEAKER_00]: They had a great deadline.
22:38 --> 22:43 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you were just focusing on that one area, they could have used one more arm.
22:43 --> 22:49 [SPEAKER_00]: They could have used one more power arm, leverage arm, dynamite arm, toward the back end of that bullpen.
22:49 --> 22:50 [SPEAKER_00]: And Caleb Ferguson's a good reliever.
22:51 --> 22:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they could have used the guy a step above him.
22:53 --> 23:02 [SPEAKER_00]: But what I'll repeat from Friday's episode and what I'll repeat from the reaction we put out at the end of the trade deadline on Thursday across social media is this.
23:03 --> 23:07 [SPEAKER_00]: The name everybody was circling, especially on the final day of the deadline was Griffin Jax.
23:07 --> 23:10 [SPEAKER_00]: For good reason, that dude is a stud.
23:10 --> 23:14 [SPEAKER_00]: His stuff is nasty, gets all this swing and miss, has two and a half years of club control.
23:15 --> 23:17 [SPEAKER_00]: He is one of the game's great relievers.
23:17 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Which is funny, because like you look at the guy, he's not exactly the imposing figure that his former teammate Joe Andoran is.
23:23 --> 23:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Duran is like, that guy will give you nightmares facing him.
23:27 --> 23:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Jax, you just look at him out at the mound and he just looks like
23:31 --> 23:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty normal dude like he's he's our size.
23:34 --> 23:39 [SPEAKER_01]: We had him on our bullpen banner channel and Lyle and him were essentially the same size.
23:40 --> 23:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I got a couple of comments saying, man, you too look alike.
23:44 --> 23:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a little.
23:46 --> 23:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're about the same size, but I'll tell you what I'm not doing.
23:50 --> 23:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I am not throwing damn near a hundred miles an hour like Griffin, Jackson's and getting thirty teams calling about you at the trade deadline.
23:58 --> 23:59 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll probably a little less than that.
24:00 --> 24:04 [SPEAKER_00]: And also ranking in the one hundredth percentile of baseball in Chase rate.
24:04 --> 24:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not doing that like Griffin, Jackson's.
24:07 --> 24:10 [SPEAKER_00]: But he is really good.
24:10 --> 24:12 [SPEAKER_00]: And there's a reason everybody wanted him.
24:12 --> 24:16 [SPEAKER_00]: What I was going to get to about Jacks is now back to the Mariners point of this.
24:17 --> 24:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the Mariners really wanted them.
24:19 --> 24:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they will see what everybody else is that he's a stud.
24:22 --> 24:25 [SPEAKER_00]: He would have really changed the narrative and the outlook and that bullpen.
24:26 --> 24:36 [SPEAKER_00]: But when you see the rays give up Taj Bradley for Griffin Jacks, that shows the ridiculous asking price that was out on the market this year for relief help.
24:37 --> 24:40 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think the Mariners felt comfortable paying that.
24:40 --> 24:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, this ties back to the previous malback question of did they come up short versus
24:49 --> 24:50 [SPEAKER_00]: at all the guys they wanted to add.
24:51 --> 24:52 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think they came up short.
24:52 --> 24:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they wanted Griffin Jax.
24:54 --> 24:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they wanted one of those lever charms, but it costed too much.
24:58 --> 25:06 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think the price equivalent to Taj Bradley for the Mariners, while it's not perfect, feels like to me the twins were basically saying, we want Bryce Miller if you want Griffin Jax.
25:07 --> 25:10 [SPEAKER_00]: And the Mariners obviously said there and say, yeah, well, we're not giving you Bryce Miller for Griffin Jax.
25:10 --> 25:12 [SPEAKER_00]: We're not giving up Bryce Miller for a reliever.
25:12 --> 25:14 [SPEAKER_00]: So that conversation ends.
25:14 --> 25:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And when you see Adam Jude tweet an hour before the deadline saying, hey, sources are saying the mariners are not expected to make any more moves.
25:21 --> 25:22 [SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of people weren't happy about it.
25:23 --> 25:25 [SPEAKER_00]: This is why you can be mad in the moment.
25:25 --> 25:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I get it.
25:26 --> 25:32 [SPEAKER_00]: But when you get behind the curtain and you see what the price is on Griffin Jax,
25:33 --> 25:34 [SPEAKER_00]: then you understand.
25:34 --> 25:39 [SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, yeah, this is not about trading Harry Ford or trading a couple of prospects.
25:39 --> 25:42 [SPEAKER_00]: This would be your trading Bryce Miller or something like that.
25:42 --> 25:43 [SPEAKER_00]: And I just don't think they were going to do that.
25:43 --> 25:45 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think they should have done that.
25:45 --> 25:46 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not trading just a trade.
25:46 --> 25:53 [SPEAKER_01]: It's trading for someone that you think is right for you, but also giving out the package that you feel comfortable giving up.
25:53 --> 25:55 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why the Mariners did these first three trades.
25:56 --> 25:58 [SPEAKER_01]: The packages all worked out for them.
25:58 --> 26:04 [SPEAKER_01]: They had no problem saying yes to those and believe the players they're acquiring were upgrading the roster.
26:04 --> 26:06 [SPEAKER_01]: You can believe that Griffin Jacks
26:06 --> 26:07 [SPEAKER_01]: upgrades your roster.
26:08 --> 26:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Think of what happens if you trade Bryce Miller though.
26:11 --> 26:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Think about everything else that cascades because you trade Bryce Miller away for Griffin jacks.
26:16 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So you have Griffin jacks in your bullpen.
26:18 --> 26:20 [SPEAKER_01]: This question goes away because you have the back end help.
26:21 --> 26:25 [SPEAKER_01]: You might have to trade another prospect along with Bryce or maybe it is just price.
26:25 --> 26:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just say it's just price at this point.
26:28 --> 26:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Now you're a starter down at this point.
26:31 --> 26:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Logan Evans as we've talked about his pitch well last start wasn't great but overall he's pitched well at the big league level he's got an innings limit coming up.
26:40 --> 26:45 [SPEAKER_01]: The team has showed their pretty flip floppy with Emerson Hancock in terms of leaving him in the rotation.
26:46 --> 26:53 [SPEAKER_01]: If so, that gets us to the point where if you trade for Griffin Jax, you'd have to turn around and trade for another starter right away.
26:54 --> 27:01 [SPEAKER_01]: If your plan is compete this year and it's all in because the premise of trading for Griffin Jax is being all in.
27:02 --> 27:03 [SPEAKER_01]: But now you need another starter as well.
27:04 --> 27:09 [SPEAKER_01]: It just gets really complicated really quickly if that's the decision you have to make to go get that.
27:09 --> 27:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd love Griffin Jax.
27:10 --> 27:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Just doesn't seem like it was a realistic possibility at this deadline for the Mariners.
27:16 --> 27:18 [SPEAKER_01]: They operate how they like to operate.
27:18 --> 27:20 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't trade starters for relievers.
27:20 --> 27:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't make any sense for them.
27:22 --> 27:24 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think most teams would do that.
27:24 --> 27:28 [SPEAKER_00]: The race did, but most teams probably aren't doing that.
27:28 --> 27:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, Jeff Passing called that the biggest surprise with the deadline.
27:31 --> 27:32 [SPEAKER_00]: The race trading for Griffin Jackson.
27:33 --> 27:36 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's why the Mariners didn't pay the package.
27:36 --> 27:36 [SPEAKER_00]: And by the way,
27:37 --> 27:40 [SPEAKER_00]: They were very, very deep into talks for Joe on Doran.
27:41 --> 27:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it sounds like that one got really close.
27:44 --> 27:49 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like they weren't looking to add into that back end of the bullpen and to have Doran would have been amazing.
27:51 --> 27:53 [SPEAKER_00]: But the fillies ended up giving them the twins an offer.
27:53 --> 27:54 [SPEAKER_00]: They liked a little bit better.
27:55 --> 27:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And then for Jack's, the price feels like it was higher than what it was for Doran.
27:59 --> 28:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Because Doran, like the fillies didn't have to end up giving up Andrew Painter, like we talked about.
28:04 --> 28:05 [SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was a little less.
28:06 --> 28:10 [SPEAKER_01]: But the Mariners also didn't really have a Mick Abel to give up.
28:11 --> 28:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
28:11 --> 28:13 [SPEAKER_01]: As much as, again, I love Logan and Emerson.
28:14 --> 28:15 [SPEAKER_01]: They're not Mick Abel.
28:16 --> 28:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So, you couldn't draw that equivalent.
28:20 --> 28:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Abel hasn't been that great.
28:22 --> 28:23 [SPEAKER_01]: But he's got more pedigree than.
28:24 --> 28:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, he was, he was a high first round area.
28:27 --> 28:28 [SPEAKER_01]: And throws harder.
28:29 --> 28:29 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fair.
28:29 --> 28:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Logan throws pretty.
28:31 --> 28:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Logan and Emerson run it up.
28:32 --> 28:36 [SPEAKER_01]: But yes, maybe, maybe Logan's sitting ninety two this year.
28:37 --> 28:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you mean like where they set.
28:39 --> 28:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
28:39 --> 28:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
28:40 --> 28:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
28:40 --> 28:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Then just a little bit more upside with him.
28:43 --> 28:44 [SPEAKER_00]: That's for now.
28:44 --> 28:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
28:45 --> 28:46 [SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
28:48 --> 28:49 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, like.
28:50 --> 28:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I got it.
28:51 --> 28:52 [SPEAKER_00]: It just didn't work out.
28:52 --> 28:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Getting high leverage bullpin arms at this deadline did not work out for the Mariners.
28:56 --> 29:06 [SPEAKER_01]: If they didn't acquire nailer and genome and relievers with the only thing they did, they were targeting at this deadline and they didn't get these guys, then we'd be a little more pissed off right now.
29:07 --> 29:13 [SPEAKER_01]: But that's why you have all these facets of your team to try and offset some of the other areas where you might be a little weaker.
29:14 --> 29:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right.
29:17 --> 29:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, that was a good batch of mailback questions.
29:19 --> 29:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Those were good.
29:20 --> 29:24 [SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully we cleared up any trade deadline questions that people wanted to send in because you guys had good questions.
29:25 --> 29:33 [SPEAKER_00]: So like I said, this is obviously the team now and hopefully with this team, they're kind of set to rock and roll and hopefully they really kind of get on a win streak.
29:33 --> 29:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Like we said, as we're recording this, they obviously won three or four.
29:36 --> 29:36 [SPEAKER_00]: So
29:37 --> 29:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Of course, GNO hit three home runs in the series.
29:40 --> 29:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:40 --> 29:41 [SPEAKER_01]: It's good vibes only.
29:42 --> 29:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And we will dive all into the series in more details of Slyall said at the top of the episode for Wednesday's episode.
29:48 --> 29:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
29:49 --> 29:53 [SPEAKER_00]: And speaking of our guy Logan, he threw six shot out on Sunday.
29:54 --> 29:58 [SPEAKER_00]: That's confirmed.
29:58 --> 29:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
29:59 --> 30:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Blank the Rangers and got the Mariners series win.
30:02 --> 30:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Love to see it.
30:03 --> 30:03 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
30:04 --> 30:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure I gave a great, I'm sure I gave a great reaction to it as well in our social media channels.
30:09 --> 30:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
30:10 --> 30:15 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, Mariners three or four confirmed shout out shout out Mariners post trade deadline.
30:15 --> 30:18 [SPEAKER_00]: They are, uh, they're three and one.
30:18 --> 30:18 [SPEAKER_00]: You'll have to see it.
30:19 --> 30:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, oh, sorry.
30:20 --> 30:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I forgot to add one final mail bag question that I was not going to forget.
30:24 --> 30:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Somebody asked, uh, Lyle is the reason the Mariners didn't trade for Stephen Kwan because they're setting out to get Kyle Tucker.
30:29 --> 30:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Great question.
30:30 --> 30:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
30:32 --> 30:40 [SPEAKER_00]: You guys know K-Tox and M. Why did the Mariners not go get a right field or at this deadline when you still could argue that you could go get a guy there?
30:41 --> 30:42 [SPEAKER_00]: They're not doing that.
30:42 --> 30:46 [SPEAKER_00]: They're waiting to the winner and they're signing K-Tox.
30:46 --> 30:47 [SPEAKER_00]: It's that simple, guys.
30:47 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_00]: You know it's common.
30:49 --> 30:52 [SPEAKER_00]: As we've learned at this deadline, Jerry and Justin were playing chess not checkers.
30:53 --> 30:55 [SPEAKER_00]: They continue to play chess not checkers.
30:55 --> 31:00 [SPEAKER_00]: They said, we're not going in trading for fucking Luis Robert who strikes out a million percent of the time.
31:01 --> 31:02 [SPEAKER_00]: We're waiting to get Kyle Tucker.
31:02 --> 31:04 [SPEAKER_00]: They're getting them.
31:04 --> 31:06 [SPEAKER_01]: They always have the future in vision in the future.
31:07 --> 31:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Looks like a glorious Kyle Tucker.
31:11 --> 31:14 [SPEAKER_00]: That's City Connect jersey that I'm gonna buy at his is gonna absolutely bang.
31:15 --> 31:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:16 --> 31:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait.
31:17 --> 31:21 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, that's just about wraps up this edition of the Marine Lair podcast.
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31:50 --> 31:51 [SPEAKER_00]: That's TJ.
31:51 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Lyle.
31:52 --> 31:53 [SPEAKER_00]: As always, we thank you guys for tuning in.
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