Lyle and TJ are in awe of what they are seeing from this Mariners roster, perhaps the best they have seen in the last 20+ years. They react to everything they saw over the weekend (2:30) and discuss Julio's torrid stretch (25:50).
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00:00 --> 00:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to episode number two, eighty of the Marine Lair, podcast.
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00:59 --> 01:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lairer podcast, part of the just baseball podcast network recording on Sunday evening August, tenth.
01:09 --> 01:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I think in the two, the little over two and a half years of doing this podcast, Lyle, I've not felt better vibes for a weekend at the ballpark than I felt this weekend in Seattle.
01:21 --> 01:24 [SPEAKER_01]: It was fucking electric.
01:25 --> 01:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was.
01:26 --> 01:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah, it was.
01:29 --> 01:34 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess the only thing you could come to would be August of twenty twenty three and I think we might get into that.
01:34 --> 01:37 [SPEAKER_02]: But to stick on the current to stick on the now.
01:38 --> 01:42 [SPEAKER_02]: These do the rolling and they are steam rolling people offensively.
01:43 --> 01:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Like to the point where I had to tweet out the Tiffany Gomez meme of her on the plane to talk about the Mariners offense to say
01:50 --> 01:54 [SPEAKER_02]: That motherfucker, that motherfucker back there is not real!
01:55 --> 01:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Talking about the Mariners' offense.
01:56 --> 01:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't have any other words.
01:58 --> 02:02 [SPEAKER_02]: They literally look unfathomable at the plate in the best of ways.
02:02 --> 02:08 [SPEAKER_01]: The Seattle Mariners' offense has nine players in it that are hitting at an above average rate this year.
02:09 --> 02:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Nine players, every single position, is above average now that Cole Young got over a hundred.
02:16 --> 02:19 [SPEAKER_01]: That blew my mind when I saw that after Saturday night's game.
02:19 --> 02:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Like this isn't supposed to be possible for team playing in the worst hitters park in all of baseball, but they've come out here in August and they all they do is score runs.
02:28 --> 02:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And guess what?
02:30 --> 02:31 [SPEAKER_01]: They've scored all these runs.
02:31 --> 02:32 [SPEAKER_01]: They've mastered all these homers.
02:33 --> 02:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, it's been awful since they acquired him.
02:37 --> 02:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He's been bad at the plate and they're doing it without him.
02:42 --> 02:44 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, he's going to be fine.
02:44 --> 02:44 [SPEAKER_02]: We love you, Gino.
02:44 --> 02:46 [SPEAKER_02]: The city loves you, Gino.
02:46 --> 02:47 [SPEAKER_02]: We're not worried about you.
02:47 --> 02:52 [SPEAKER_02]: We are just objectively talking about, okay, in the first couple weeks, it hasn't been one of those hot Gino stretches.
02:52 --> 02:53 [SPEAKER_02]: He's been a little bit cold.
02:53 --> 02:55 [SPEAKER_02]: We just find Cal just got out of a slump.
02:55 --> 02:59 [SPEAKER_02]: And obviously, other guys have been through slumps this year, which is totally fine.
02:59 --> 03:01 [SPEAKER_02]: And you know he's going to turn it around.
03:02 --> 03:05 [SPEAKER_02]: But that is more to put it in a positive light to say even when Gino's not hitting.
03:06 --> 03:07 [SPEAKER_02]: They're still doing this.
03:08 --> 03:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Gina has a negative six WRC plus and then near forty percent strikeout rate since the deadline and the mayor has acquired him and the mayor's in that time are still fourth in the league and run scored and first in home runs.
03:21 --> 03:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that good?
03:23 --> 03:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm honestly surprised, Lyle.
03:25 --> 03:29 [SPEAKER_01]: No one's DM does asking where Ben Williamson is and why Gina isn't going to the bench.
03:30 --> 03:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh boy, I'm kind of surprised.
03:33 --> 03:38 [SPEAKER_01]: If Gino didn't have so much positive energy with this fan base, I think it would have happened.
03:41 --> 03:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Am I talking so loud that I'm echoing to you?
03:43 --> 03:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Or am I, or I'm now?
03:45 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't think so.
03:46 --> 03:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well then maybe I'm just talking so loud, so loud I'm echoing in my own right.
03:50 --> 03:51 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, well then good.
03:53 --> 03:56 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna wake up the neighbors around me, just screaming about the Seattle Mariners.
03:57 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway,
03:59 --> 04:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Man, this has been fun.
04:01 --> 04:01 [SPEAKER_02]: It's been awesome.
04:02 --> 04:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Like.
04:03 --> 04:07 [SPEAKER_02]: We have not seen a mariner offense like this, maybe ever.
04:07 --> 04:12 [SPEAKER_02]: We certainly have not seen nine guys all be above average hitters at once that are all starters.
04:13 --> 04:14 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm sitting here thinking about it.
04:15 --> 04:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Just two years ago, less than two years ago, on the various steamed radio show that I'm now a part of, with legendary Mark from Maple Valley yelling about, Covey Arrow, Sam Haggerty, Dylan Moore, and Mike Ford at the bottom of the order.
04:30 --> 04:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Like those days are long gone.
04:32 --> 04:36 [SPEAKER_02]: They have legitimate dudes all throughout the lineup.
04:36 --> 04:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll say it again.
04:37 --> 04:41 [SPEAKER_02]: They're number nine hitter and coal young has a nine twenty OPS in the last month.
04:43 --> 04:45 [SPEAKER_01]: And it over four hundred on base percentage.
04:46 --> 04:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Just help kind of bonkers.
04:47 --> 04:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Helps when you walk four times in a game like you did on Saturday.
04:51 --> 04:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what is this?
04:52 --> 04:54 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the stretch sense.
04:54 --> 04:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I wrote it down here.
04:56 --> 05:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Since the All Star Break, he is walking twenty two percent of the time.
05:00 --> 05:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's what Juan Soto does at the plate.
05:03 --> 05:09 [SPEAKER_01]: His approach at the plate has been really, really dialed in at this point, which is
05:09 --> 05:11 [SPEAKER_01]: That's love to see that form again.
05:11 --> 05:24 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just he just turned twenty two just and he has that approach against big leakers at a bottom of line up where he doesn't like the pressure is not on him at all and he's still coming through which is excellent.
05:24 --> 05:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what I was actually thinking about today too when I was thinking about Gino?
05:28 --> 05:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So Gina has come in, he's struggled.
05:30 --> 05:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to turn around.
05:31 --> 05:33 [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to clobber some more home runs.
05:33 --> 05:36 [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to finish with at least forty five bombs.
05:36 --> 05:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he'll get to fifty if he heats up.
05:38 --> 05:39 [SPEAKER_01]: That would be awesome.
05:39 --> 05:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Meredith's going to have two fifty home run hitters off the top of my head.
05:42 --> 05:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how many teams in baseball history have had two separate fifty home run hitters.
05:47 --> 05:48 [SPEAKER_01]: But I can't imagine the list is very long.
05:50 --> 05:51 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to trade it for you.
05:51 --> 05:55 [SPEAKER_01]: One of instead of trading for Randy arose around a last year at the deadline.
05:55 --> 06:01 [SPEAKER_01]: They traded for this year's version of Gino, and he does this in the first week on that roster last year.
06:03 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, last year.
06:04 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
06:04 --> 06:16 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, people love genome at all, but man, if you had that version of genome on last year's roster paired with all the losing they did on that road trip, I mean, in the discourse would have been awful.
06:16 --> 06:17 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so toxic.
06:17 --> 06:25 [SPEAKER_01]: The problem is it would have fit like right into that lineup, but the difference between last year's lineup and this year's lineup is that this year's lineup
06:25 --> 06:49 [SPEAKER_01]: over just for this weekend, for example, you have Cal Rally mashing three home runs, you have Julio Rodriguez breaking out of his slump, and hitting on Saturday, what was just an absolute nuke to straightaway center field, seeing him pimple on that he hits into his own section in straightaway center, no doubt about that one, and then hits a ball even harder, straight down the left field line for a second home run of a game.
06:49 --> 06:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and then on top of that again, we mentioned Cole Young.
06:53 --> 06:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Josh Nailer has come back healthy.
06:54 --> 06:56 [SPEAKER_01]: He had another home run here on Sunday.
06:57 --> 07:01 [SPEAKER_01]: The list goes on that you can keep talking about without mentioning the name Gino.
07:02 --> 07:04 [SPEAKER_01]: And he used the most prized acquisition out of any team at the deadline.
07:05 --> 07:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
07:06 --> 07:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And the manager's just like, let's find we have five hitters right now better than him.
07:09 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_01]: But when he comes back and he's starting a little bit better, I think will be pretty good.
07:14 --> 07:15 [SPEAKER_02]: I have an answer to your question.
07:15 --> 07:17 [SPEAKER_02]: I just googled that since you were curious.
07:18 --> 07:19 [SPEAKER_02]: only one team.
07:20 --> 07:25 [SPEAKER_02]: In major league baseball history has had two players hit fifty or more home runs in the same season.
07:26 --> 07:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Would you like to guess who it was?
07:27 --> 07:30 [SPEAKER_01]: It is going to be a Yankee team with Lou Garrigan Bay Brew.
07:31 --> 07:32 [SPEAKER_02]: It is a Yankee team.
07:32 --> 07:33 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not those two.
07:33 --> 07:34 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not that era.
07:36 --> 07:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Neither of those two.
07:37 --> 07:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Neither.
07:38 --> 07:40 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be Mickey Manel and someone else.
07:41 --> 07:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And
07:44 --> 07:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So Manel took over after Dimaggio and he was going to be Mickey Manel and Roger Maris.
07:49 --> 07:50 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what it's going to be.
07:50 --> 07:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Mickey Manel and Roger Maris in nineteen sixty one.
07:54 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_02]: That is the only team in the history of baseball to have two fifty home run players on the same roster.
08:01 --> 08:10 [SPEAKER_02]: How crazy would it be if Gino is part of a Mariners group that in the course of two of three seasons was part of a group that have
08:12 --> 08:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Only they'd be the second team ever to hit fifty plus home runs in a season with him in Cal.
08:18 --> 08:26 [SPEAKER_02]: And it also be part of a group that is part of the only team to have two players strike out two hundred plus times or more in a season in him and to Oscar Hernandez.
08:26 --> 08:29 [SPEAKER_01]: There's something literally allowed only the Mariners can do.
08:30 --> 08:34 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners are the only team ever that can have five busted testicles in fifty years.
08:35 --> 08:36 [SPEAKER_01]: It's historic.
08:36 --> 08:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And for a while, they had more of those than playoff appearances.
08:39 --> 08:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
08:40 --> 08:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when you come to Seattle, you're one of a kind at that point.
08:43 --> 08:45 [SPEAKER_01]: So what can we say about you know, he's historic.
08:45 --> 08:52 [SPEAKER_01]: The vibes are historic, the Harris historic, the winnings, not historic at all, but it might be the next few months.
08:53 --> 08:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't need the, I don't need the last forty nine years.
08:56 --> 08:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I need two more good months.
08:58 --> 09:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me say it again, I think I tweeted it today.
09:01 --> 09:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Watching this offense just has me say, watching this offense just has me thinking one thing and you all should be thinking it too.
09:08 --> 09:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't ever, ever take the blue pill.
09:13 --> 09:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Keep living the dream of this offense and write it as long as you can.
09:17 --> 09:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Do not ever take the blue pill.
09:20 --> 09:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to repeat after watching what we watch this weekend, what I said last week.
09:25 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_01]: This offense and starting pitching staff right now are too talented and too good for this team to miss the playoffs.
09:32 --> 09:35 [SPEAKER_01]: The manners are comfortably now in the first wild card spot.
09:36 --> 09:39 [SPEAKER_01]: There are four games clear of being out of the wild card picture.
09:39 --> 09:44 [SPEAKER_01]: There are half game behind the Astros and there are two games out of a buy in the playoffs right now.
09:45 --> 09:56 [SPEAKER_01]: What they need right now is six and a half good weeks of play before you play the Dodgers on that final weekend of the season to get into one of those spots and clinch because guess what?
09:57 --> 10:05 [SPEAKER_01]: The Yankees have been one of the worst teams in baseball since the middle of last month like last forty five games I think last fifty games they've been bad.
10:06 --> 10:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Astros beat him again today.
10:09 --> 10:11 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners have already overtaken them, right?
10:12 --> 10:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Looking at this playoff picture, the threats are not all that threatening.
10:18 --> 10:29 [SPEAKER_01]: There really shouldn't be any reason why this team stacking up against all the other playoff teams or supposed playoff teams in baseball, why they can't be in the final six teams to make it.
10:29 --> 10:30 [SPEAKER_01]: There is no reason.
10:31 --> 10:31 [SPEAKER_01]: No reason.
10:31 --> 10:32 [SPEAKER_01]: There's too much talent on this team.
10:33 --> 10:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, there is.
10:35 --> 10:39 [SPEAKER_02]: And you just look up and down the American League, like who's striking fear into your eyes right now?
10:39 --> 10:41 [SPEAKER_02]: It's sure is how not the Astros.
10:42 --> 10:44 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, it's sure is how not the Yankees right now.
10:44 --> 10:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I know Judge just got back, but you look at the rest of that team and all the struggles they've had and they haven't had a Garacol all year and Max Freepers goes he's been, I mean, he didn't pitch well today.
10:54 --> 10:55 [SPEAKER_02]: It was just one start, but
10:56 --> 10:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Man, like that team doesn't strike much fear into you either.
10:59 --> 11:00 [SPEAKER_02]: On the right.
11:00 --> 11:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Pick one team, who strikes the most fear into you of any team in the American League?
11:05 --> 11:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Mariners, I'll say, haven't played this version of the Blue Jays.
11:09 --> 11:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they played the Blue Jays, the Blue Jays were not playing all that well.
11:14 --> 11:18 [SPEAKER_02]: And they still, the Mariners still lost two or three to him, but the Mariners were in playing that grade at that point either.
11:19 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say, although I have all the teams, I'd probably say the Tigers.
11:24 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_02]: I think if I have this right, I don't think the Blue Jays have been on like a great stretch as of like, well, they're six and four in their last ten.
11:32 --> 11:40 [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess they've been all right, but well, the way I determine how the Blue Jays are playing, I just watch front of the pod Johnny to.
11:41 --> 11:43 [SPEAKER_02]: You watch K- fourteen.
11:43 --> 11:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not looking at the stand.
11:44 --> 11:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I literally just watch.
11:46 --> 11:48 [SPEAKER_01]: What does Johnny say in his reactions?
11:48 --> 11:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I like to watch both personally, but I like to watch the games and the reactions and just how they're doing in general.
11:55 --> 11:59 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, but numbers don't scream at you through a green screen.
11:59 --> 12:03 [SPEAKER_02]: No, the one thing I'd say about the Blue Jays is they do have
12:04 --> 12:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, early in the year, they had some really good bullpen arms and all of a sudden that bullpen's tailed off a little bit.
12:08 --> 12:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Like Jeff Hoffman has not had a great year and Mason Fleurty, who I thought looked really sharp early in the year.
12:15 --> 12:17 [SPEAKER_02]: He hasn't been great.
12:17 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, like there's weaknesses on every team.
12:20 --> 12:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Look, like, and then you look at the Blue Jays rotation.
12:23 --> 12:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Is there anybody in that rotation that's striking fear into you right now?
12:26 --> 12:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Both Barrios and Gosman have been just fine.
12:29 --> 12:29 [SPEAKER_02]: They've been guys.
12:31 --> 12:32 [SPEAKER_02]: They've been guys.
12:32 --> 12:34 [SPEAKER_02]: So the Tigers, because they have Terrix school.
12:34 --> 12:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and that's where you could run into a problem is that if you get in a five game series and you have to see school twice, that would be very tough.
12:41 --> 12:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Even though the Mariners have beaten him twice, and it doesn't really feel like they'd beat him four times in a year.
12:46 --> 12:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Even though the line up they'd throw out against him for the third and fourth time supposedly would be astronomically better than the line up they throw against him the first two times.
12:57 --> 12:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
12:59 --> 13:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Is there any world you can argue with the red socks where you'd have to face crochet twice and then that offense?
13:05 --> 13:06 [SPEAKER_02]: They hit pretty well, haven't they?
13:07 --> 13:09 [SPEAKER_02]: The red socks, I mean, yeah, the red socks have a good offense.
13:10 --> 13:17 [SPEAKER_02]: And Roman and Roman now looks like the guy that he was supposed to be and it only took him about six weeks to do that.
13:17 --> 13:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd still say the Tigers.
13:19 --> 13:20 [SPEAKER_01]: They're probably deeper though.
13:20 --> 13:24 [SPEAKER_01]: The Red Sox pretty very good defensively in the outfield too.
13:24 --> 13:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot of there's that complete nature of their team.
13:29 --> 13:31 [SPEAKER_01]: How about the Red Sox by the way?
13:31 --> 13:32 [SPEAKER_01]: We're sitting here thinking
13:33 --> 13:43 [SPEAKER_01]: We made jokes over the last couple of weeks about the middle-releaf president of baseball operations for the two teams.
13:43 --> 13:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Jared Apoto and Craig Breslow because that's what they did in the big leagues.
13:47 --> 13:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Both have had their fair share of criticism in their jobs and now their teams are both playing great.
13:54 --> 13:58 [SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of those criticisms were both of them have to do with some of the PR disasters they've run themselves into.
13:59 --> 14:00 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, both those teams are playing really well.
14:02 --> 14:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Both have made trades that people roll their eyes at, none bigger than that rocky trade.
14:07 --> 14:11 [SPEAKER_01]: The red socks are a lot better than the giants are.
14:12 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Crazy.
14:14 --> 14:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Although I will say, I'm not going to sit here and act like the devil's trade was like, I'm not going to sit here and act like the giants made some massive mistake to make that trade.
14:24 --> 14:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Number one, he's one of the game's best bats.
14:27 --> 14:30 [SPEAKER_02]: And two, like these OPS plus is one, twenty five in San Francisco.
14:30 --> 14:32 [SPEAKER_02]: He's been totally fine.
14:32 --> 14:37 [SPEAKER_02]: You guys over like a two month stretch or forty five games to be exactly the devil's is played and he's got a
14:38 --> 14:40 [SPEAKER_02]: One twenty five OPS plus he's been totally fine.
14:40 --> 14:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And the Red Sox didn't even keep James tips.
14:42 --> 14:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Who's the headlining piece of that trade package.
14:45 --> 14:46 [SPEAKER_02]: No, they traded him for dust and me.
14:46 --> 14:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Which, yeah, kind of kind of puzzling.
14:49 --> 14:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely puzzling.
14:50 --> 15:01 [SPEAKER_01]: But in conclusion, while I with the way that gets laid out there, those would probably be the two teams just because of those two pictures that would strike the most fearing you.
15:01 --> 15:03 [SPEAKER_01]: But the only way you match up with
15:04 --> 15:27 [SPEAKER_01]: The red socks is if the mariners are the number one wild card or the mariners the red socks need to in some Order finish one and two in the wild card That's the only way they face each other and that first round at least right like if he's each other after that and that could happen they could be the top two wild card teams But then you don't wear this throwback at you.
15:27 --> 15:32 [SPEAKER_01]: They have four starters and Bryce Miller out of the bullpen potentially.
15:32 --> 15:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so
15:33 --> 15:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, sure, scared, yeah.
15:35 --> 15:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really trying not to get too far ahead of myself, and we haven't even mentioned the bullpen, but.
15:43 --> 15:43 [SPEAKER_01]: They look good.
15:44 --> 15:47 [SPEAKER_01]: And I felt that walking around the ballpark the last two weekends.
15:47 --> 15:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Like everyone we go and talk to now, there's no more complaining.
15:53 --> 15:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Everybody's in this awesome mood.
15:55 --> 15:58 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no, yeah, there's no offense can't hit.
15:59 --> 16:00 [SPEAKER_02]: There won't add it to deadline.
16:01 --> 16:07 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, God forbid early in the year when there was nonstop talk from fans about the offseason on us included.
16:07 --> 16:11 [SPEAKER_02]: But now it's just it's nothing but like
16:12 --> 16:39 [SPEAKER_02]: positivity and excitement and positively looking into the future like the atmosphere around the ballpark is as good as I can remember and even when life of this podcast yeah in the life of this podcast yeah for sure obviously in twenty twenty two was great but like even in even in twenty three when they rattled off that hot august like people still felt the after effects of the seawall trade and kind of
16:40 --> 16:41 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you want to call that deadline?
16:41 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they basically sold, right?
16:44 --> 16:48 [SPEAKER_02]: You call it buying and selling a kind of sold that they were non-committal.
16:48 --> 16:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
16:49 --> 17:02 [SPEAKER_02]: So a non-committal deadline and a roster that people had questions about, again, a bottom of the order that didn't exactly feel like a world beater with lovehags, but haggardy, and Mike Ford, et cetera.
17:02 --> 17:04 [SPEAKER_02]: So even when that
17:05 --> 17:27 [SPEAKER_01]: a hot August stretch happened I think there was still skepticism from some people and for good reason because they were the team that missed the playoffs now now not only are they winning but it feels like a legit threat well there's a big gift there's a few big differences between those two teams number one the mayor's roster really didn't change all that much in twenty twenty three between pre deadline in post deadline like can zone in bliss
17:28 --> 17:31 [SPEAKER_01]: We're not the key cogs of what unlocked that August.
17:31 --> 17:34 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners' entire roster just started playing better all at once.
17:34 --> 17:45 [SPEAKER_01]: And when you have four months of a roster not performing well, and then you have one month where they performed the best the franchise has ever seen, you think this is probably not who they are.
17:46 --> 17:49 [SPEAKER_01]: And that was right because then September happened, they crashed back to Earth and they missed the playoffs.
17:50 --> 18:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Also, if you remember that Mariners rotation, they had Logan Gilbert, who's pitching well, they had Luis Castillo and his best full season as a Mariners, but they also had rookie Brian Wu and they had rookie Bryce Miller.
18:00 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And then they had that, who am I missing somebody?
18:04 --> 18:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Was it flexing?
18:05 --> 18:06 [SPEAKER_02]: And they're in a Kirby.
18:07 --> 18:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they had Kirby.
18:07 --> 18:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
18:08 --> 18:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
18:08 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_01]: So I've got a high forgot Kirby.
18:09 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
18:09 --> 18:13 [SPEAKER_01]: So they had those top three, but then they had rookie Bryce Miller on an innings limit.
18:13 --> 18:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And then they had rookie Brian Wu on an innings limit.
18:15 --> 18:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Both of them got so exhausted down the stretch and folded in September.
18:20 --> 18:22 [SPEAKER_01]: And now it's a big reason the Mariners missed in the playoffs.
18:22 --> 18:26 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners don't have any of that going up to September now.
18:27 --> 18:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Brian Lewis stretched out Logan Gilbert stretched out Luis Castillo stretched out George Kirby stretched out Bryce Miller's coming back There's none of that and you know what this and then this team unlike the twenty twenty three team they actually made their team better at the deadline
18:44 --> 18:56 [SPEAKER_01]: They saw what they were doing before the deadline when they weren't playing well enough, and they said we need to make this team better, and they went out and they made the team better, and now they have this lineup that all we have to save out of this positive things.
18:56 --> 18:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Those are the big differences.
18:58 --> 19:02 [SPEAKER_01]: They added, and they're just the roster's more stable overall if you just go through it.
19:05 --> 19:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Like that twenty three bullpen was very good.
19:08 --> 19:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Better than this bullpen, definitely.
19:10 --> 19:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I would love that twenty twenty three bullpen back when you trade policy all the way losing a guy like that hurts.
19:16 --> 19:16 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
19:17 --> 19:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Rather than adding and there's no doubt they added now.
19:21 --> 19:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's crazy.
19:22 --> 19:24 [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's fun to like all of a sudden like.
19:25 --> 19:27 [SPEAKER_02]: kind of hypothesize and look toward the future.
19:27 --> 19:28 [SPEAKER_02]: And they still have to get there.
19:28 --> 19:32 [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to go out on a tough road trip this week and over the next three series.
19:32 --> 19:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I know Baltimore's No World Beta and Baltimore's had plenty of struggles.
19:35 --> 19:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's a series they should win.
19:37 --> 19:39 [SPEAKER_02]: But there's no question.
19:39 --> 19:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Like to go into city field and into Philly is not going to be easy.
19:43 --> 19:44 [SPEAKER_02]: It'll be two tough series.
19:45 --> 19:49 [SPEAKER_02]: But that'll be really interesting to watch how they respond on the road against those teams.
19:49 --> 19:53 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'll tell you what, like if they play well out there on the East Coast, the
19:55 --> 19:58 [SPEAKER_02]: The helium's only going to increase, and the excitement's only going to rise.
20:00 --> 20:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And then there's the road trip after that.
20:01 --> 20:09 [SPEAKER_01]: They played a Guardians the Guardians, despite them being in more of a, they were also kind of non-committal at the deadline.
20:11 --> 20:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And they had, you know, a manual class, they get suspended.
20:13 --> 20:16 [SPEAKER_01]: So the Mariners will play the Guardians at the end of the month.
20:17 --> 20:18 [SPEAKER_01]: After that,
20:19 --> 20:19 [SPEAKER_01]: You look ahead.
20:19 --> 20:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember people mentioned to us, it's like, oh, the guardians aren't that much of a threat.
20:24 --> 20:25 [SPEAKER_01]: They've been really hot recently.
20:25 --> 20:30 [SPEAKER_01]: They're right, nippin' on the tail of, I think the Yankees in the wild card right now.
20:31 --> 20:32 [SPEAKER_01]: So, they're getting pretty close.
20:33 --> 20:37 [SPEAKER_01]: But then after that, I mean, you just handled the raise, you're gonna go on the road to the raised series.
20:38 --> 20:41 [SPEAKER_01]: You'll play the braves, the braves have been awful this year.
20:41 --> 20:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Really bad.
20:42 --> 20:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Then you have the cardinals at home and the angels at home and then,
20:46 --> 20:50 [SPEAKER_01]: The Royals on the Road, and then you have your next meaningful series against the Astros.
20:50 --> 20:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, you get the Rockies.
20:52 --> 20:54 [SPEAKER_01]: And then your last week of the season.
20:55 --> 20:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really trying, like you said, not trying to get ahead of myself here.
20:59 --> 21:04 [SPEAKER_01]: But if you get through that Guardian series and you continue to play as well as you're currently playing, because guess what?
21:04 --> 21:09 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't outside of playing the Dodgers, doesn't matter who you're playing right now if you're playing like you played over the weekend.
21:09 --> 21:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Literally does not matter.
21:10 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_01]: You'll beat these teams.
21:11 --> 21:13 [SPEAKER_01]: You'll win two out of three if not sweep.
21:14 --> 21:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Also, keep that up through the Guardian series.
21:17 --> 21:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Then you can start getting ahead of ourselves, I think.
21:21 --> 21:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, also, there's a world that Dodgers series in the final weekend means nothing for either team, which for the Mariners would be great.
21:28 --> 21:30 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to sweat the Dodgers coming into town.
21:30 --> 21:32 [SPEAKER_02]: If you were to clench by that, well,
21:34 --> 21:41 [SPEAKER_02]: That may mean something to the Mariners because they still may be fighting for positioning by that time, even if they clinch a playoff spot, let's say.
21:41 --> 21:49 [SPEAKER_02]: They could be fighting for positioning in that final weekend, but there's a world where those final couple games might not matter, maybe only a Friday game means something, and for the Dodgers that may not matter at all.
21:50 --> 21:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, point being, you're right, like the Mariners have it all laid out in front of them, and it's there for the taking.
21:56 --> 22:03 [SPEAKER_02]: This is in, like, this is in their control, and this is something they can absolutely tackle.
22:04 --> 22:13 [SPEAKER_01]: For those curious, in terms of remaining strength of schedule among American League Teach, the Dodgers, I don't know how they manage this, have the easiest remaining strength of schedule, that doesn't make any sense.
22:14 --> 22:21 [SPEAKER_01]: But the Yankees are the, have the twenty-seven, the Tigers have the twenty-six, the Astros, twenty-fifth, the Mariners, twenty-four.
22:22 --> 22:28 [SPEAKER_01]: So you do have three playoff teams in front of you in terms of easiest remaining strength of schedule.
22:29 --> 22:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Also, to answer your question, the Guardians are now half a game back at their Yankees.
22:33 --> 22:39 [SPEAKER_02]: So you're right, it's funny for as very ho-hom is they played for a lot of the first half.
22:39 --> 22:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Man, that team is just pesky.
22:41 --> 22:42 [SPEAKER_02]: They don't go away.
22:42 --> 22:46 [SPEAKER_02]: They always find a way, like their roster always feels a little bit underman.
22:46 --> 22:52 [SPEAKER_02]: There was talks that Stephen Quahn maybe traded off the team the day of the deadline, and yet now they're fighting for a playoffs.
22:52 --> 22:55 [SPEAKER_01]: But they just kind of feel mid, but they're playing a lot better.
22:56 --> 22:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, maybe
22:59 --> 23:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe there's no more in-house odds that are bogging them down.
23:05 --> 23:08 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no more thoughts about the first pitch or the third inning anymore.
23:10 --> 23:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Or though I'm not going to try and bring up too much PTSD, but if you might remember the series that started the Mariners tumble last year was a three game series in Cleveland.
23:21 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_01]: So let's hope for an opposite.
23:24 --> 23:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that where that road trip started?
23:27 --> 23:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Not the, not the service got fire broker, but the ten, uh, ten game lead blown started in Cleveland.
23:34 --> 23:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
23:34 --> 23:35 [SPEAKER_01]: They swept the Rangers.
23:35 --> 23:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, right, right, right.
23:37 --> 23:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was going to say that road trip from Hell last year in August.
23:39 --> 23:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say it was the Tiger It's Tigers and Dodgers.
23:45 --> 23:47 [SPEAKER_02]: In order, I think it was Tiger's Pirates Dodgers.
23:48 --> 23:48 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
23:48 --> 23:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Nothing like being in a playoff chase and losing to the Pittsburgh Pirates.
23:53 --> 23:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they did face schemes that weekend.
23:57 --> 23:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to make the playoffs?
23:58 --> 24:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yes, but nobody hits Paul schemes.
24:01 --> 24:04 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, Mariners be terrible twice this year and they be Paul schemes.
24:05 --> 24:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Just not Paul schemes himself because they didn't really be Paul schemes himself.
24:09 --> 24:11 [SPEAKER_02]: They got shut out by schemes and hit their bullpen.
24:12 --> 24:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Can we acknowledge how funny it is that Adrian Houser wore a thunder jersey in T-Mobile Park and then proceeded to get drilled today?
24:21 --> 24:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Good.
24:22 --> 24:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, eat it, buddy.
24:26 --> 24:28 [SPEAKER_01]: He, is he from Oklahoma?
24:28 --> 24:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what is this connection?
24:29 --> 24:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Why did he do this?
24:30 --> 24:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, is there a chance he did that just because he was in Seattle and he wanted to make fans mad?
24:35 --> 24:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, no, he is from Oklahoma.
24:37 --> 24:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Ah, so he's probably trying to troll.
24:39 --> 24:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, guess what, buddy?
24:42 --> 24:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
24:43 --> 24:44 [SPEAKER_01]: You got got.
24:46 --> 24:47 [SPEAKER_01]: That was pretty funny.
24:48 --> 24:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
24:48 --> 24:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Good.
24:49 --> 24:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Pretty ironic how that all worked out.
24:51 --> 24:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and here's one last note for you here, dog.
24:53 --> 24:55 [SPEAKER_01]: If you don't want to, you're trying not to get your hopes up.
24:56 --> 25:00 [SPEAKER_01]: According to fan graphs, the mayor is now have the best odds to an the American League penit.
25:00 --> 25:04 [SPEAKER_01]: And the third best odds to win the world series behind the Dodgers and Philly's.
25:05 --> 25:06 [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to bring that up.
25:06 --> 25:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Did you see that tweet today?
25:07 --> 25:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Did you see my fan graphs put that out today that they have the best odds in the American League now?
25:12 --> 25:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Good Lord.
25:12 --> 25:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
25:13 --> 25:14 [SPEAKER_02]: What have we come to as a world?
25:16 --> 25:41 [SPEAKER_02]: see this is say like I don't want to do it mentally because I know that it can lead to a lot of disappointment but it's so hard to not just sit there and look at these guys and say yeah this this team can make a run they are capable of it the rotation and the talent in the rotation paired with the offense right now looks too talented to not dream on what they could do
25:42 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_01]: If there's one guy that we should highlight here over the weekend, there was a lot of good performances, but I think one stands out above the rest, and that's Julio.
25:51 --> 25:52 [SPEAKER_01]: It's Julio back.
25:54 --> 25:55 [SPEAKER_01]: We stamped it on Saturday.
25:55 --> 25:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
25:57 --> 25:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he's that.
25:57 --> 25:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Swings do look like it.
25:59 --> 26:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Skate and pitches right in the middle of the plate and he's not missing him.
26:02 --> 26:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I was digging into the numbers a little bit when we were doing our social post over the weekend and I was and Julio over the last month has been on fire.
26:11 --> 26:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Over over the season while his stats are back up to right about where they should be.
26:15 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just under four fan grabs wins of over placement.
26:18 --> 26:23 [SPEAKER_01]: A top twenty player in baseball, a one sixteen WRC plus with a defense in center field.
26:24 --> 26:26 [SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty good, ball by itself.
26:26 --> 26:53 [SPEAKER_01]: But since July seven, or sorry, I think it's since July eleven, two eighty six three thirty six sixty seven tied for the most home runs in baseball twelve a twenty four percent strikeout rate six percent law create and one point seven fan graphs wins above replacement just in the last month that comes out to a one seventy eight WRC plus for Julio that is MVP Julio right there that's twenty twenty three August Julio right there
26:55 --> 27:00 [SPEAKER_02]: In the last month, it's in a month of August, over nine hundred.
27:01 --> 27:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's back.
27:03 --> 27:05 [SPEAKER_02]: He, Julio Rodriguez is back.
27:06 --> 27:07 [SPEAKER_02]: And his swing to your point.
27:07 --> 27:08 [SPEAKER_02]: They look on time.
27:08 --> 27:10 [SPEAKER_02]: They look smooth.
27:10 --> 27:12 [SPEAKER_02]: He is catching the ball out in front.
27:14 --> 27:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's locked in.
27:17 --> 27:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought that was kind of important for him to come back over the last week.
27:21 --> 27:27 [SPEAKER_01]: This was before Calhate's three home runs over the weekend, but Cal as we noticed had been struggling a lot.
27:27 --> 27:31 [SPEAKER_01]: And they were always going to bat Caler Julio second or third.
27:32 --> 27:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Those guys have earned those spots in that lineup.
27:36 --> 27:42 [SPEAKER_01]: So if they're both going to be struggling at the point, I don't know how the Mariners line up operates, because that's, you know, those guys hit a lot.
27:42 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Those are two of the three most played appearances.
27:45 --> 27:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Two of the positions they get the most played appearances of any spot in the lineup.
27:50 --> 27:56 [SPEAKER_01]: If you were to have, say, for example, June Julio and July August Cal.
27:57 --> 28:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Those guys, that lineup would not be the same it currently is right now.
28:01 --> 28:05 [SPEAKER_01]: The way it's structured, you can have one of those guys struggling, you can have one of them crushing.
28:06 --> 28:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And I thought it was going to be cows going to work through some things and who is going to go out there and crush.
28:10 --> 28:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And then we got this weekend where they're both just hitting nukes out of the wall park.
28:16 --> 28:18 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's what we talked about earlier this season.
28:18 --> 28:26 [SPEAKER_01]: What if you get a fifty five home run season from Cal and a thirty home run potentially thirty stolen base season from Julio?
28:27 --> 28:28 [SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty historic.
28:28 --> 28:31 [SPEAKER_01]: So now we add to the calculator again.
28:31 --> 28:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Two fifty whole run hitters in a thirty thirty season on the same team.
28:34 --> 28:35 [SPEAKER_01]: What has that happened?
28:36 --> 28:38 [SPEAKER_02]: And oh, by the way, you're not even factoring in Randy.
28:39 --> 28:42 [SPEAKER_01]: No, we're Josh Nailer, who might be the most fun player out of any of them.
28:43 --> 28:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and and Randy's already at twenty twenty.
28:47 --> 28:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Nailer might get to twenty twenty.
28:48 --> 28:50 [SPEAKER_02]: He's already at the twenty stolen bags.
28:50 --> 28:51 [SPEAKER_02]: So.
28:52 --> 28:53 [SPEAKER_02]: How crazy would that be?
28:53 --> 28:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Two fifty home run guys at thirty thirty guy and two twenty twenty guys.
28:58 --> 29:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to just go out on a limb and say that has never happened.
29:02 --> 29:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Ever?
29:03 --> 29:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Probably not.
29:04 --> 29:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Like that's so many variables.
29:07 --> 29:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Like we, you need a team of homerists, you need a team of stolen bases.
29:11 --> 29:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Like usually teams just pick one.
29:14 --> 29:24 [SPEAKER_01]: For example, like in twenty nineteen, those teams, the, the, the, the, the act of twenty nineteen assures are one of the, the teams that hit the most homeruns of all time, but they didn't steal a ton of bases.
29:26 --> 29:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, those old Yankees teams just mashed.
29:30 --> 29:33 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, I keep saying Randy hitting lead off.
29:34 --> 29:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Love every bit of it.
29:35 --> 29:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, keep him there for the rest of the season because it's worked perfectly.
29:43 --> 29:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd say the simplest thing for Julio, he's getting back to doing a lot more damage on flyballs.
29:47 --> 29:57 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're curious, before this hot streak, when he's hitting the ball in the air, his average exit velocity was roughly about what the league average is.
29:57 --> 30:03 [SPEAKER_01]: The league averages, I think, a little bit below nine emails an hour, he was hitting the ball in the air, at about nine emails an hour.
30:04 --> 30:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Over the slash stretch, when he hits the ball in the air, it's almost a hundred miles an hour off the bat.
30:10 --> 30:17 [SPEAKER_01]: That means all these balls that who is getting under before and he's popping out on the end field and he's flying out to the middle of the outfield.
30:17 --> 30:20 [SPEAKER_01]: These balls are going over the fence for home runs.
30:20 --> 30:26 [SPEAKER_01]: That ball he hit to straightaway center is first of two home runs on Saturday in May.
30:26 --> 30:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he just flies out to center on that because he's not getting great contact.
30:30 --> 30:31 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not on time.
30:31 --> 30:32 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not balanced.
30:33 --> 30:34 [SPEAKER_01]: But this one, he's hitting the barrel.
30:34 --> 30:37 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just absolutely crushing it out to center field.
30:38 --> 30:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And the Mariners get to score more runs because of it.
30:42 --> 30:44 [SPEAKER_02]: He really looked locked in all weekend.
30:45 --> 30:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And it was cool to hear.
30:46 --> 31:00 [SPEAKER_01]: It was also really cool to see him do that and the the story of him and each of those relationship gets told more and more over the weekend, which I thought was great timing for each row, you know, having his number retired and
31:01 --> 31:16 [SPEAKER_01]: acknowledging the team and telling them to, you know, time to put up and all this stuff and then each row and Julio talk about, you know, the impact each other has on the two of them and that Julio has his best weekend of the season when each row is getting honored.
31:16 --> 31:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was that was cool.
31:18 --> 31:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And all the each row kind of symbolism from Saturday's game.
31:21 --> 31:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you notice that?
31:23 --> 31:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Like Alex, Alex Mayer went on a bit of a, but of a stat, stat proves to find this.
31:29 --> 31:33 [SPEAKER_01]: So the Mariners retired number fifty one for each year on Saturday.
31:34 --> 31:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Cal Rally Homerd to make it five one on Tampa Bay's fifty first pitch.
31:40 --> 31:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And then there were approximately fifty one seconds between Cal's home run landing and Julio's home run landing.
31:49 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was like the whole Seahawk Super Bowl, when it was twelve seconds into the game, when the safety happened, when the snap went over Peyton's head, and then it was twelve seconds into the second half, when Percy housed the kick return for the touchdown that basically sealed that Super Bowl.
32:03 --> 32:10 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what it felt like a little bit on each hero night, with all those fifty-one symbolism scattered around the game.
32:10 --> 32:15 [SPEAKER_02]: It was really cool, honestly, the coolest thing I heard about each hero in Julio over
32:16 --> 32:37 [SPEAKER_02]: The weekend was each hero talking about the he's learned certain things from Julio and obviously the two are like contrast each other in some ways about how each hero really reserved how we felt and his emotions a lot of the time or Julio really wears it on a sleeve and always has both you know the happiness and the joy and then the frustrations at times like people really see that exude through Julio
32:37 --> 32:48 [SPEAKER_02]: But also to hear, do you hear the story that when, like, one day Julio went over to each of those house and they trained together because they wanted to work through a couple things, like just the two of them before a game one morning?
32:49 --> 32:49 [SPEAKER_02]: That was cool.
32:50 --> 32:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
32:50 --> 32:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I heard a bit.
32:51 --> 32:53 [SPEAKER_01]: That, that is pretty cool.
32:53 --> 32:55 [SPEAKER_01]: How many people get invites to each of those house?
32:57 --> 32:57 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't.
32:59 --> 32:59 [SPEAKER_01]: No, we don't.
32:59 --> 33:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately not.
33:02 --> 33:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna guess not many people do.
33:04 --> 33:21 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's a pretty cool relationship they have, where it's a former franchise face, and, you know, each year hopes that Julio, while he's got some competition now with Cal, you know, can be that franchise face.
33:22 --> 33:50 [SPEAKER_01]: and like understand the pressure that takes on and where they come from and how each player is unique like that's another thing that each row is kind of hammer in home this week where you know you talk about how how unique every player is and how unique each row was and how he wants like every player to be that way to not like try and be something else like just be yourself like it's like it's being Julio like we tell Julio to stop striking out as much but maybe that's just part of Julio's game like
33:50 --> 34:08 [SPEAKER_02]: who lives not gonna walk he's gonna strike out a bunch actually I told him to do exactly that in the middle of the year i said stop trying to strike out less strike out more i don't care but hit for power pay each euro yeah i know you did say that people call me just a knockoff
34:09 --> 34:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Walmart, each euro.
34:11 --> 34:14 [SPEAKER_01]: To be fair, these started striking out more and now we sit more dangerous.
34:15 --> 34:17 [SPEAKER_01]: There you are.
34:17 --> 34:25 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if each euro is like, Ben, like, I don't know if each euro's hell bent on Julio has to be the face of the team.
34:25 --> 34:30 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think each euro's going to have any gripes of its cow, but I think each euro wants Julio to like live up to his potential.
34:31 --> 34:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's just dealing with what comes with being Julio, because each role lived it.
34:35 --> 34:44 [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, he, as popular as Julio is, each role because of, of Japan is, had to deal with much more.
34:44 --> 34:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
34:45 --> 34:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
34:45 --> 34:46 [SPEAKER_01]: So a lot more pressure on him.
34:47 --> 34:48 [SPEAKER_01]: He's like, hey, I get it.
34:48 --> 34:49 [SPEAKER_01]: You're so we're going to work through this.
34:50 --> 34:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
34:51 --> 34:57 [SPEAKER_01]: What do we think of the end of each role's speech, or he's like, all right, guys, time to put up.
34:59 --> 35:01 [SPEAKER_02]: There have been other people that have tried that.
35:01 --> 35:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Remember when Junior said keep fighting and that became a big slogan in twenty sixteen and they did miss the playoffs.
35:09 --> 35:15 [SPEAKER_01]: See, part of it with these speeches, it kind of requires you to have more good players on your roster.
35:16 --> 35:40 [SPEAKER_01]: it does and this team has that much many more good players that twenty sixteen team had got that twenty sixteen team well they had three really good players and then the drop see the key about building good teams is you need more than uh... more than three good players so sure you could have Robinson can know you could have Kyle C. Gary you could have Nelson Cruz but then you could also have um...
35:44 --> 35:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Adam Lindett first.
35:49 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, or Chris, I am that of I'm that way.
35:52 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
35:53 --> 36:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Or they had a twenty-two-year-old Catell Marté at a short stop, but this was before he was actually good and he hit like Ben Williams in this year.
36:04 --> 36:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, dude.
36:05 --> 36:11 [SPEAKER_01]: If you just heard me compare Catell Marté to Ben Williams and please wipe your brain right now.
36:12 --> 36:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me say it like five times so anybody listening that's one of these insane Ben Williamson stands any again.
36:18 --> 36:18 [SPEAKER_02]: We have to say everything.
36:18 --> 36:20 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no knock on Ben Williamson itself.
36:20 --> 36:21 [SPEAKER_02]: We really like Ben.
36:21 --> 36:22 [SPEAKER_02]: It's about the crazy people online.
36:23 --> 36:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Ben Williamson is not could tell Marta.
36:25 --> 36:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Ben Williamson is not could tell Marta.
36:26 --> 36:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Ben Williamson is not could tell Marta.
36:28 --> 36:28 [SPEAKER_02]: All right there.
36:28 --> 36:29 [SPEAKER_02]: We just set it for everybody.
36:30 --> 36:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, when Katel got traded that winner, I'll expose myself.
36:33 --> 36:46 [SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't have been more fired up to see him get traded away because I was like, they just got a two hundred hit short stop and despite Mitch Hanager kind of being an undervalued part of that trade and underrated part of that trade, I was like, dude, I like Mitch Hanager.
36:46 --> 36:49 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's got a chance to really make an impact and see how it only did.
36:50 --> 36:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Dog, I forgot the best part about this team.
36:53 --> 36:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Day holy.
36:54 --> 36:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I was gonna say we missed three hundred and seventeen play appearances of Day holy.
36:59 --> 37:00 [SPEAKER_01]: And Daniel Vogoback.
37:02 --> 37:11 [SPEAKER_01]: No, he was I guess twenty three-year-old Daniel Vogoback making third getting thirteen at bats with a negative thirty one OPS plus
37:13 --> 37:14 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not good.
37:14 --> 37:16 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, maybe one griffy looks at that team.
37:16 --> 37:17 [SPEAKER_01]: He's saying it.
37:17 --> 37:24 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't quite land the same as a team that has as many good players as the Mariners currently do.
37:24 --> 37:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and by the way, the biggest difference between that team and this team besides the town on the Big League roster.
37:29 --> 37:30 [SPEAKER_01]: They have a real farm system.
37:30 --> 37:34 [SPEAKER_01]: There we look at the prospect rankings from twenty-six team.
37:34 --> 37:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, God.
37:35 --> 37:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Wasn't Alex Jackson number one that year?
37:38 --> 37:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
37:39 --> 37:44 [SPEAKER_02]: He was, no, he was, I remember this, twenty-six team was like an all-time low for a Mariners farm system.
37:45 --> 37:51 [SPEAKER_02]: But while you look it up, I will say when Edgar also got his number retired and he gave his speech, it also didn't work.
37:51 --> 37:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Because similar idea, it was a team that was not good enough.
37:56 --> 37:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Edwin Diaz was the top prospect, that one paned out, okay.
38:00 --> 38:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Alex Jackson was number two, though he's listed as an outfielder here.
38:05 --> 38:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Drew Jackson was number three.
38:07 --> 38:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Remember him, the short stop?
38:09 --> 38:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
38:11 --> 38:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Tyler O'Neill, actual Big League or was number four.
38:14 --> 38:17 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he was a Big League or, but oh, sorry.
38:17 --> 38:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
38:17 --> 38:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
38:17 --> 38:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
38:18 --> 38:19 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm thinking of never mind.
38:19 --> 38:24 [SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking of Tyler Smith, the old Oregon State Short Stop, who did get up for a little bit in seventeen.
38:25 --> 38:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Nick Niter.
38:27 --> 38:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, boy.
38:27 --> 38:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
38:28 --> 38:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Andrew Moore.
38:29 --> 38:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, boy.
38:31 --> 38:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Luis Gohara.
38:34 --> 38:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, wasn't he like huge, like pretty sure he was?
38:37 --> 38:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Six, three, two, ten.
38:39 --> 38:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
38:40 --> 38:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Boog Powell.
38:43 --> 38:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, this, this is making me want to like vomit.
38:46 --> 38:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So like comparing contrast with the Mariners current farm system right now.
38:50 --> 38:54 [SPEAKER_01]: See, I'm at Boog Powell here, number eight, who was not a big leaker.
38:54 --> 38:58 [SPEAKER_01]: He, he appeared briefly in the big leagues, not a big leaker.
38:58 --> 39:02 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners number eight prospect right now is Michael Oroyo.
39:04 --> 39:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, top one hundred prospect.
39:06 --> 39:11 [SPEAKER_02]: This is about the big, this episode's about the big league team, but if we're just gonna mention his name, can I for sixty seconds just do this?
39:11 --> 39:14 [SPEAKER_02]: You know who's insanely underrated in the Mariners Farm System?
39:15 --> 39:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Michael fucking a royal.
39:17 --> 39:21 [SPEAKER_02]: This dude at every level does nothing, but mash.
39:21 --> 39:29 [SPEAKER_02]: The only reason he's not a higher prospect is because he has questions about where he's gonna play defensively long term, and if he's gonna be a capable enough defender,
39:30 --> 39:32 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're talking every level.
39:33 --> 39:35 [SPEAKER_02]: This dude Michael Arroyo just matches.
39:35 --> 39:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Even in AA right now, he's doing the same thing down in Arkansas.
39:40 --> 39:43 [SPEAKER_02]: He's currently sitting with like an eight hundred OPS.
39:45 --> 40:09 [SPEAKER_01]: and relative to all the other levels in eight hundred OPS and Arkansas is very good because that park is very hard to hit in cold Emerson while hitting his first double a home right over the weekend did learn that the hard way he pissed on a ball I think it was on Friday and floats the warning track in right field and then the next day actually hit a homer man he looks he looks like he is transitioned to double a with no issues because he looks great defensively too but anyway
40:09 --> 40:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, really quick, just to do this.
40:11 --> 40:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Michael Royo, twenty-twenty-two in the Dominican Summer League, nine forty-one OPS.
40:16 --> 40:24 [SPEAKER_02]: His OPS for the year in twenty-three, eight O-three, OPS for the year in twenty-four, nine-ten, and currently OPS for the year in twenty-five, eight eighty-six.
40:24 --> 40:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Every year, he just mashes, that's the eighth prospect in the Mariners system.
40:30 --> 40:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Michael Royo, if he doesn't get traded, number one, has a chance to really hit in the majors, but
40:36 --> 40:55 [SPEAKER_02]: when you compare it to the twenty sixteen team and that farm system when it's blue pal and yeah like drew jackson looks a little different like this is everything the organization has worked towards since Jerry took over for that twenty sixteen team ten years later
40:56 --> 40:58 [SPEAKER_01]: This is like about what you want.
40:58 --> 40:59 [SPEAKER_01]: You have a stacked line up.
41:00 --> 41:01 [SPEAKER_01]: You have went healthy.
41:02 --> 41:04 [SPEAKER_01]: One of the three best rotations in baseball.
41:05 --> 41:07 [SPEAKER_01]: The bullpen depending on the year is good.
41:08 --> 41:11 [SPEAKER_01]: But in your farm systems loaded, you have more top one hundred prospects than everybody.
41:13 --> 41:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And the vibes are good.
41:14 --> 41:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And the people are lining up for miles to get in the ballpark.
41:19 --> 41:20 [SPEAKER_01]: That was crazy on Friday.
41:20 --> 41:22 [SPEAKER_01]: That line on Oxidental.
41:22 --> 41:23 [SPEAKER_01]: It was.
41:23 --> 41:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, because it went all the way down Oxidental and then looped back around.
41:28 --> 41:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Crazy.
41:30 --> 41:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Give away must have been worth it.
41:32 --> 41:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope so.
41:33 --> 41:37 [SPEAKER_01]: But the fans showed out this weekend and again from everyone we talked to.
41:37 --> 41:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I understand why people are excited.
41:39 --> 41:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Like legitimately excited.
41:42 --> 41:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's foundation to all of this and hope.
41:45 --> 41:46 [SPEAKER_01]: into the future.
41:46 --> 41:47 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like blind hope.
41:47 --> 41:56 [SPEAKER_01]: It's legitimate fact based hope about a baseball team that on paper is better than everyone else and they're playing better than everyone else right now.
41:57 --> 41:59 [SPEAKER_02]: This is all we ever asked for.
41:59 --> 42:01 [SPEAKER_02]: This is this is what this whole fan base screams for.
42:01 --> 42:08 [SPEAKER_02]: You say give us something to love give us a good product to love and people will love it almost unconditionally.
42:09 --> 42:12 [SPEAKER_02]: When you don't do that, people are gonna be really mad.
42:12 --> 42:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the narrative was over the winner.
42:16 --> 42:17 [SPEAKER_02]: When you miss the playoffs two years in a row.
42:17 --> 42:19 [SPEAKER_02]: But you do things like this.
42:19 --> 42:21 [SPEAKER_02]: You take the deadline seriously.
42:21 --> 42:22 [SPEAKER_02]: You take your roster seriously.
42:22 --> 42:24 [SPEAKER_02]: You take winning seriously.
42:24 --> 42:25 [SPEAKER_02]: People show up.
42:26 --> 42:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I know it was each year a weekend.
42:27 --> 42:28 [SPEAKER_02]: I know it was each year a weekend.
42:29 --> 42:35 [SPEAKER_02]: But I feel pretty confident in saying, you're gonna see a lot more people showing out throughout the rest of the summer and into September if this keeps up.
42:35 --> 42:36 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think it will.
42:37 --> 42:39 [SPEAKER_02]: because it's a great product that people can really buy into.
42:39 --> 42:42 [SPEAKER_02]: That is all we've ever asked.
42:42 --> 42:47 [SPEAKER_02]: That is all fans have ever asked over all the last few years of all the animosity.
42:48 --> 42:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Give us a product to love and buy into and we now have that.
42:53 --> 42:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully it keeps going and hopefully the team backs it up for these final two months.
42:57 --> 42:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
42:58 --> 42:59 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's all we got.
43:00 --> 43:05 [SPEAKER_02]: When you've got a positive episode, we don't have to spend fifteen minutes talking about like all the futility.
43:05 --> 43:11 [SPEAKER_01]: You managed to make it all the way through this episode without mentioning Dan Wilson's bullpen decisions.
43:12 --> 43:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Which I mean had its own questions again this weekend, but it's not even worth talking about.
43:16 --> 43:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you have to be good enough to like, to beat out bad bullpen decisions?
43:21 --> 43:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
43:22 --> 43:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope they are.
43:23 --> 43:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope they are.
43:24 --> 43:25 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good problem to have.
43:26 --> 43:27 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a great problem to have.
43:27 --> 43:27 [SPEAKER_02]: And again,
43:29 --> 43:37 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not even worth rehashing because the weekend was way too positive and way too exciting and way too upbeat to waste any energy on that.
43:37 --> 43:41 [SPEAKER_02]: This marriage team is so fun and that's all people should buy into.
43:41 --> 43:54 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, sixty seconds on this because we did talk about it on Friday's Millbag and we were paying attention to something and wanted to see if something would happen during the ceremony on Saturday.
43:55 --> 43:57 [SPEAKER_01]: So John Stan did talk.
43:57 --> 43:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think he would, but he was up there.
43:59 --> 44:00 [SPEAKER_01]: He talked.
44:00 --> 44:01 [SPEAKER_01]: He read off a piece of paper.
44:02 --> 44:03 [SPEAKER_01]: They're giving each row a statue.
44:04 --> 44:07 [SPEAKER_01]: There were some booze where they're more or less than you expected.
44:09 --> 44:13 [SPEAKER_02]: less and if you want me to just do a quick recap, I would say it said two things.
44:14 --> 44:18 [SPEAKER_02]: There was a fair amount of casual fans in the ballpark this weekend and that's not as shot at anybody.
44:18 --> 44:25 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just I think the truth that when there's a weekend like that, there will be more casual fans that go into a ballpark because they want to celebrate each year.
44:25 --> 44:28 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, it's more to the point of what we just talked about.
44:28 --> 44:29 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is the bigger picture here.
44:30 --> 44:35 [SPEAKER_02]: The team is so exciting right now that it probably just wasn't worth a lot of people's energy.
44:35 --> 44:38 [SPEAKER_02]: People are just more invested in the success of the team.
44:39 --> 44:43 [SPEAKER_02]: and seeing each year overnight rather than wasting their energy on that.
44:43 --> 44:44 [SPEAKER_02]: To your point, I'm like, what you said on Friday?
44:45 --> 44:50 [SPEAKER_02]: If they've done nothing at the deadline and we're out of a playoffs spot right now, I think it would have been very different, but it probably just wasn't worth people's energy.
44:51 --> 44:57 [SPEAKER_01]: There's just no reason right now to be negative because it's like, oh, you'd be building because of the offseason, but the roster right now is great.
44:58 --> 44:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
44:59 --> 45:00 [SPEAKER_01]: So again, what are we doing?
45:00 --> 45:02 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, that is a gerian Justin thing.
45:02 --> 45:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't think anybody's sitting here applauding them because they took on like eight million dollars in payroll.
45:07 --> 45:08 [SPEAKER_02]: The deadline, that's what you should do.
45:09 --> 45:12 [SPEAKER_02]: That is the like minimal expectation of what you should do.
45:12 --> 45:12 [SPEAKER_02]: So
45:14 --> 45:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Like again, like nobody's like parading them, but it just wasn't worth people's energy.
45:20 --> 45:21 [SPEAKER_02]: The team's too exciting.
45:21 --> 45:24 [SPEAKER_02]: The players on the field are what deserve all the energy.
45:24 --> 45:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
45:25 --> 45:25 [SPEAKER_01]: A hundred percent.
45:25 --> 45:31 [SPEAKER_01]: And that energy is about as fun as for me in twenty seven and almost a half years old.
45:31 --> 45:33 [SPEAKER_01]: About as fun as it's ever been.
45:34 --> 45:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Just sitting here trying to soak this all in, man.
45:36 --> 45:38 [SPEAKER_01]: We watched a lot of bad baseball.
45:38 --> 45:41 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of bad baseball.
45:42 --> 45:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, we just talked about having a buy-in to a roster that had Chris Ianetta behind the plate.
45:46 --> 45:49 [SPEAKER_02]: And that was one of the better teams we watched growing up.
45:51 --> 45:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Alright, before we wrap up this podcast, let's pick one roster.
45:56 --> 45:56 [SPEAKER_02]: that we had to watch.
45:56 --> 45:57 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
45:57 --> 46:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do twenty thirteen because I think it's fair to say the last year of truly, truly, a trotis mariner's baseball was twenty thirteen.
46:06 --> 46:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Now they're okay in twenty nineteen they weren't good either because they were starting their rebuild or step back or whatever you want to call it.
46:13 --> 46:17 [SPEAKER_02]: But isn't it fair to say that once they got Robbie that most years they have been competitive.
46:18 --> 46:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
46:19 --> 46:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
46:19 --> 46:24 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was going to say twenty I was going to say eleven twelve or thirteen else a year you should pick.
46:25 --> 46:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I think thirteen yeah I was thinking about eleven two but let's just do thirteen because that was the year before it really started to like feel somewhat fun again so that year honestly
46:37 --> 46:43 [SPEAKER_02]: This is, this one doesn't even actually highlight it that great because there was actually a couple of decent hitters in this lineup.
46:43 --> 46:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me look at twenty eleven and then decide if that one's better.
46:46 --> 46:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll look at twenty twelve two twenty twelve.
46:48 --> 46:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you know what, here we go.
46:49 --> 46:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Here, here we are.
46:50 --> 46:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Twenty eleven's the roster read.
46:52 --> 46:53 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the roster read.
46:53 --> 46:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's do it.
46:54 --> 46:59 [SPEAKER_02]: In two thousand eleven, if you were if you were listening to this podcast and you were TJ and I's age, you were about
47:00 --> 47:00 [SPEAKER_02]: thirteen.
47:01 --> 47:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you were thirteen years old during this season.
47:03 --> 47:06 [SPEAKER_02]: If you were older than us, you were older than this, you were younger than us.
47:07 --> 47:08 [SPEAKER_02]: If you're younger than us now, you're younger than this.
47:08 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_02]: But this is a full season of a team we watched.
47:12 --> 47:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Miguel O'Liva behind the plate.
47:14 --> 47:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Six forty one OPS.
47:16 --> 47:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Justin smoke at first.
47:18 --> 47:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Dustin, actually, at second, that was his rookie year in the one year.
47:21 --> 47:23 [SPEAKER_02]: He was actually good and people started to get excited about him.
47:24 --> 47:26 [SPEAKER_02]: He was like the shining star of that team.
47:26 --> 47:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise, you had Brennan Ryan at second.
47:29 --> 47:31 [SPEAKER_02]: It's worth almost four wins in ninety games.
47:32 --> 47:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was.
47:32 --> 47:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, that was Dustin Acle's one good year.
47:34 --> 47:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, not Brennan Ryan at second.
47:35 --> 47:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Acle was the second.
47:36 --> 47:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Brennan Ryan at short.
47:38 --> 47:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Sean Figgins at third.
47:39 --> 47:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Good God, man.
47:40 --> 47:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, four, eighty four OPS with a forty OPS plus and that was one of the biggest contracts they ever gave out to a guy.
47:48 --> 47:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And they, this is the year they cut him.
47:51 --> 47:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that sounds right.
47:52 --> 47:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
47:52 --> 47:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what a disaster.
47:54 --> 48:02 [SPEAKER_02]: So like universally despise, awful player, fans can stand on them, preachers, teammates can stand on good Lord.
48:03 --> 48:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Carlos Pagaro was their primary left fielder by baseball reference in forty six games.
48:07 --> 48:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Who, by the way, I love Carlos Pagaro because it was during an era that there was nothing to get excited about except some monstrous dude who every hundred of bats would hit a five hundred by Homer.
48:18 --> 48:21 [SPEAKER_02]: That guy had a six twenty two OPS out here.
48:21 --> 48:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Goody was in center and this was one of Goody's bad years.
48:25 --> 48:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Like like it was twenty eleven Goody at the time was how old he was twenty eight, but he was injured a lot of the area at a fifty four OPS plus that year.
48:35 --> 48:38 [SPEAKER_02]: So he was in center and then you had each your own right who was
48:39 --> 48:43 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, pretty much at his tail end of his Mariners tenure by that point.
48:43 --> 48:47 [SPEAKER_02]: He did not have a good year that you're either he had a six forty five OPS and then you had, you know what?
48:48 --> 48:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, are you already looking at the list?
48:50 --> 48:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to try to quiz you on who de-aged on this team.
48:52 --> 48:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'm staring right at the roster right now.
48:56 --> 49:01 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to bet you there's a lot of people who either don't remember this name or have never even heard of this guy.
49:01 --> 49:03 [SPEAKER_02]: I remember him from his time with the A's.
49:03 --> 49:06 [SPEAKER_02]: It is one Jack Cost.
49:08 --> 49:08 [SPEAKER_02]: How?
49:09 --> 49:10 [SPEAKER_02]: This is a real roster.
49:10 --> 49:13 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't talk to anyone.
49:13 --> 49:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and this was smack in the middle of Jackson's tenure.
49:16 --> 49:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
49:18 --> 49:21 [SPEAKER_01]: He had full time to implement everything he needed to.
49:22 --> 49:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, and then you get past Felix in that rotation.
49:26 --> 49:31 [SPEAKER_02]: It's Jason Vargas, Michael Peneta, who I'm pretty sure was a rookie that year too, yeah, he was.
49:31 --> 49:33 [SPEAKER_02]: And then, and then they traded him shortly after.
49:33 --> 49:38 [SPEAKER_02]: But Doug Fister, Blake Bevin, but Dard was still there.
49:39 --> 49:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God.
49:39 --> 49:43 [SPEAKER_01]: At least Brandon Lee was pretty good, but otherwise.
49:43 --> 49:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, who the hell are some of these guys?
49:47 --> 49:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Who is Jamie Wright?
49:51 --> 49:53 [SPEAKER_02]: And that guy and that guy was good for them that year.
49:53 --> 49:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Who is that?
49:55 --> 50:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I see, uh, I believe this is rookie Kyle Seeger on the bench here right next to Jack Wilson.
50:00 --> 50:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Jacob Wilson's dad.
50:03 --> 50:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Seriously.
50:04 --> 50:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I got it for Wells.
50:06 --> 50:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, dog Milton Bradley's on here.
50:07 --> 50:12 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a real team we watched less than fifteen years ago.
50:13 --> 50:16 [SPEAKER_01]: How about Greg Holman, almost a hundred at bats.
50:16 --> 50:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I remember him, RAP.
50:19 --> 50:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Alex Litty, only known because he is Italian.
50:23 --> 50:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Seriously, who is Jamie Wright?
50:26 --> 50:30 [SPEAKER_02]: This guy had a three, sixteen year A and sixty appearances.
50:31 --> 50:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Who is that?
50:33 --> 50:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he was pretty valuable that year yet.
50:36 --> 50:38 [SPEAKER_01]: He was the second most valuable member of that bullpen.
50:40 --> 50:42 [SPEAKER_02]: That is what we watch less than fifteen years ago.
50:42 --> 50:46 [SPEAKER_02]: And now people, we are watching a team that's a hell of a lot more exciting than that.
50:48 --> 50:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Hell of a lot more.
50:50 --> 50:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, actually, I think we just found our, our some lockout topics here.
50:54 --> 50:57 [SPEAKER_01]: We're just gonna, look at old mariner's rosters.
50:58 --> 50:58 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
50:59 --> 51:00 [SPEAKER_01]: That would be fun.
51:00 --> 51:01 [SPEAKER_01]: We should do that.
51:02 --> 51:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Cause you can do things like that.
51:03 --> 51:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Who is Jamie Wright?
51:05 --> 51:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Who is Jamie Wright?
51:07 --> 51:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Appreciated people.
51:08 --> 51:10 [SPEAKER_01]: It has gotten a lot better.
51:10 --> 51:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Way better.
51:12 --> 51:16 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're thirteen right now watching this team, no, you didn't have to go through this struggle.
51:17 --> 51:17 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
51:18 --> 51:25 [SPEAKER_02]: And in fact, like people around our age have the worst of it because we were too young to remember the nineties and two thousand one.
51:25 --> 51:27 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we had to live through all the hell.
51:27 --> 51:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
51:29 --> 51:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
51:31 --> 51:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And now we've made it hopefully.
51:33 --> 51:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully, let's keep pushing.
51:35 --> 51:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Go get that wild card.
51:36 --> 51:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Or sorry, not wild card.
51:38 --> 51:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Forget the wild card.
51:38 --> 51:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Go get that buy.
51:39 --> 51:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Go get the first round buy.
51:40 --> 51:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Go get the two seed.
51:41 --> 51:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go do that.
51:42 --> 51:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Go win the division.
51:43 --> 51:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Finally time for another banner, twenty four years later.
51:46 --> 51:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but get the banner and get the two seed because I like a banner with the three seed.
51:53 --> 51:54 [SPEAKER_02]: He's self to play the wild card round.
51:54 --> 51:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
51:54 --> 51:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Get the two seed.
51:56 --> 51:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Tell you.
51:56 --> 51:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
51:57 --> 52:00 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, that just about wraps up this edition of the Marine Lair podcast.
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52:51 --> 52:51 [SPEAKER_02]: That's TJ.
52:52 --> 52:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm Lyle.
52:52 --> 52:54 [SPEAKER_02]: As always we thank you guys for tuning in.
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