Lyle and TJ react to the Mariners taking the series against the A's, and how this is how the Mariners are supposed to look in the playoffs (2:30). They then discuss Cal Raleigh breaking the single-season catcher HR record, and predict what other records he could still break (21:26). They recount their first interaction with Josh Naylor over the weekend (38:09), then discuss Victor Robles getting activated (45:36), and another eye-opening Emerson Hancock outing in the bullpen in Tacoma (58:13).
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00:00 --> 00:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to episode number two, eighty six of the Marine layer of podcasts.
00:03 --> 00:05 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners are back at home and victorious.
00:05 --> 00:07 [SPEAKER_00]: They beat the A's two out of three.
00:07 --> 00:17 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about cow rally setting the home run record this weekend with two homers on Sunday and Victor Robless getting activated a little earlier than we thought, Dylan Moore getting DFA as well.
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01:02 --> 01:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast, part of the Just Baseball podcast network.
01:07 --> 01:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Recording on Sunday evening August, twenty fourth-law, man, it is good to be home because I don't have to watch them pitch and Philadelphia and looking competent and said they look like a real baseball team.
01:20 --> 01:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they needed that win.
01:22 --> 01:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, they needed that series.
01:24 --> 01:31 [SPEAKER_01]: You could not, in any way, lose a series at home to the A's after the road trip you just had and the podries coming to town.
01:32 --> 01:33 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what, credit to them.
01:33 --> 01:34 [SPEAKER_01]: They went out and did it.
01:34 --> 01:34 [SPEAKER_01]: They took two or three.
01:34 --> 01:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't say it was nervous about today's game, but I had like written down here on my notes.
01:39 --> 01:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, if they lose, what are we talking about?
01:44 --> 01:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Legitimately, what are we talking about?
01:46 --> 01:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Like there should be storylines from this.
01:49 --> 01:57 [SPEAKER_00]: But like, how am I supposed to process losing a series at home to the A's and like a must win game with Logan Gilbert on the mound?
01:57 --> 01:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Thankfully, we don't have to worry about that.
01:59 --> 02:05 [SPEAKER_00]: But I was like, I was legitimately concerned for a second going into this game before Calhitz is home run in the first inning.
02:05 --> 02:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, at least on the road trip, you're like, the fillings are great.
02:10 --> 02:16 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not like the A's were rolling out of murderers, row pitching staff, or were crushing the ball out of the ballpark all weekend.
02:17 --> 02:27 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it was going to be a straight bitch fest if they lost that Sunday game to the A's because the way they lost on Saturday, luckily we don't have to spend a lot of time on, but man could we?
02:27 --> 02:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Why are you bunning?
02:28 --> 02:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Why are you bunning?
02:30 --> 02:34 [SPEAKER_01]: But we're not going to talk about that in great length because they ended up winning the series.
02:34 --> 02:36 [SPEAKER_01]: That button, the tent ending was pathetic and I'll leave it if that could.
02:37 --> 02:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
02:39 --> 02:40 [SPEAKER_00]: The call was bad.
02:41 --> 02:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Robless is attempt to bump was bad.
02:42 --> 02:44 [SPEAKER_00]: The fact it was popped up.
02:44 --> 02:45 [SPEAKER_00]: It was bad.
02:45 --> 02:46 [SPEAKER_00]: But the Mariners won the series.
02:47 --> 02:47 [SPEAKER_00]: They won the series.
02:48 --> 02:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And we got confirmation on Saturday night that that was the Ann Wilson's call, not Robless doing that on his own, which
02:54 --> 02:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Why are you bunning?
02:55 --> 02:56 [SPEAKER_01]: They could've swed.
02:56 --> 02:57 [SPEAKER_01]: But fine.
02:57 --> 02:59 [SPEAKER_01]: They won the series and they needed to win the series.
02:59 --> 03:00 [SPEAKER_00]: They won the series.
03:00 --> 03:01 [SPEAKER_00]: They gained ground.
03:01 --> 03:02 [SPEAKER_00]: They gained ground on the Astros today.
03:02 --> 03:08 [SPEAKER_00]: The Yankees and the Red Sox are playing Azure Recording right now, so they're going to gain a full game on one of them.
03:08 --> 03:10 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners are up three games on the Royals.
03:10 --> 03:15 [SPEAKER_00]: They'll get their opportunity to handle both the Royals and the Astros down the stretch of the season.
03:16 --> 03:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Now they just, now they just have to worry about the pod race.
03:19 --> 03:20 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're now all of a sudden in first place.
03:21 --> 03:25 [SPEAKER_00]: First place, I was kind of surprised because the Dodgers handled them last week.
03:25 --> 03:29 [SPEAKER_00]: But now the pods have bounced back and they've, you know, given the Dodgers a little bit of their own business.
03:30 --> 03:31 [SPEAKER_00]: And we're back in first place.
03:31 --> 03:33 [SPEAKER_00]: That is a, that's a pretty good team.
03:33 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_00]: But the Mariners in terms of still set themselves up pretty nicely here with the series this week.
03:37 --> 03:39 [SPEAKER_00]: And it did really what they should against the A's.
03:39 --> 03:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Like days are solid.
03:41 --> 03:41 [SPEAKER_00]: They're playing better.
03:42 --> 03:44 [SPEAKER_00]: But they're not as good as you are, right?
03:45 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Of course not.
03:46 --> 03:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Yet, somehow the Mariners like to make it look a little closer than it really should be, or is in real life, considering when they face the A's and they face these A's lefties, they seem to run into a lot of problems.
03:58 --> 04:05 [SPEAKER_01]: The A's throw out these soft hurling lefties with off speed, and it really seems to stump the Mariners a lot.
04:05 --> 04:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Before Sunday's game, it felt like they had not really gotten to a starter and Lord knows how long.
04:11 --> 04:14 [SPEAKER_01]: It was what, ten of eleven starters, the Mariners, it struggled against.
04:15 --> 04:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And when you extrapolate the road trip into the home series against the A's, I mean, springs got them pretty good on Saturday.
04:21 --> 04:22 [SPEAKER_01]: They struggled on Friday.
04:23 --> 04:28 [SPEAKER_01]: they had not really gotten to a starter seriously until Sunday in the finale.
04:29 --> 04:31 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't make much sense why they struggle against lefties.
04:31 --> 04:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Like they have lefties on the roster.
04:34 --> 04:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but four of your best hitters are all righties or can be righties in terms of Cal Rally, Randy, Julio, Cal, Gino, now you have Robless back.
04:45 --> 04:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Are you telling me that's not enough to get to a lefty starter?
04:48 --> 04:53 [SPEAKER_00]: It should be here of can zones in the lineup or coals in the lineup and they're just fine against lefties.
04:53 --> 04:59 [SPEAKER_00]: You have four guys right there or polanco if though he's not been hit well against lefties at all.
05:00 --> 05:01 [SPEAKER_00]: So let's take him out of this.
05:01 --> 05:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just keep to those four.
05:03 --> 05:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't see any reason why those four guys cannot be good and productive against starting pictures that are throw left handed.
05:10 --> 05:11 [SPEAKER_00]: That part doesn't make much sense.
05:11 --> 05:16 [SPEAKER_00]: But then we saw what happens on Sunday where it does even add a little bit and your lineup can get to lefties.
05:18 --> 05:22 [SPEAKER_01]: not just lefties, it seems to be lefty off speed, and lefty chain jobs that seems to get this team.
05:22 --> 05:28 [SPEAKER_01]: They had problems with it last year, they had problems with it at times this year, and they seemed to have problems with it against the A specifically.
05:29 --> 05:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't make, doesn't make as much on it.
05:31 --> 05:34 [SPEAKER_00]: It does make it a lot easier than when Cal pitch two home runs.
05:35 --> 05:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that was pretty sick.
05:38 --> 05:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And then from the record when how he did, we're going to spend a little bit more time on him later, but breaking the record how he did here on Sunday in a pretty big game was was very important.
05:48 --> 05:51 [SPEAKER_00]: And he fucking crushed those balls too.
05:52 --> 05:55 [SPEAKER_00]: We're not talking about these little wall scrapers.
05:55 --> 05:57 [SPEAKER_00]: He hit two that probably should have been in the upper deck.
05:57 --> 05:59 [SPEAKER_00]: His first one was clearly in the upper deck.
05:59 --> 06:01 [SPEAKER_00]: His second one, he just kind of hit two low.
06:02 --> 06:05 [SPEAKER_00]: So he gets the moment to like no right off the bat.
06:05 --> 06:06 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got those home runs.
06:07 --> 06:12 [SPEAKER_00]: And now that we're sitting here on August, twenty-fourth, five weeks left in the season.
06:12 --> 06:17 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's got like a real shot at some more records here still.
06:18 --> 06:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, could I just throw this out?
06:19 --> 06:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll just throw this out at you.
06:21 --> 06:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Since July first, like cowsman hitting his home runs, but in terms of like being productive offensively, it's not really been his thing.
06:28 --> 06:30 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got a solid walk rate.
06:31 --> 06:32 [SPEAKER_00]: His strikeout rate is really high.
06:32 --> 06:39 [SPEAKER_00]: He almost half of his hits in this stretcher home runs, and he's like barely above a league advertiser, so to see this.
06:40 --> 06:46 [SPEAKER_00]: was was very good because they would would be a big help to them hitting those lefties.
06:47 --> 06:57 [SPEAKER_00]: So Cal does a little what he did in the first three months of the season like he was their entire offense that stretch and he's shown he could do it this season and he did a little bit more on Sunday and hopefully does a little bit more of these last few weeks.
06:59 --> 07:04 [SPEAKER_01]: He's essentially had one big series since the All Star Break before this A's weekend, and it was the raise.
07:04 --> 07:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And that raised series.
07:05 --> 07:08 [SPEAKER_01]: He hit the game, winning home run in the Friday game, and then he hit a home run in the Sunday game.
07:10 --> 07:14 [SPEAKER_01]: But aside from that, he's had some ups and downs since the All Star Break to see what he did on Sunday, however.
07:15 --> 07:25 [SPEAKER_01]: The record itself will get to, but let's also hope this sparks another hot streak where Cal really gets going again, because we know when he gets going, the offense is going.
07:26 --> 07:33 [SPEAKER_00]: And when he's not as going, even though there's more guys in the lineup now to offset that, like you can kind of feel it because when he's off, he's swinging a missing a lot.
07:33 --> 07:43 [SPEAKER_00]: And what they try to get out of the lineup this year or what they felt was deteriorating their offense is when they'd have guys in scoring position and the guy at the plate would strike out.
07:44 --> 07:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Now we're cow hits in the middle of the lineup and he's been striking out a lot more recently, say whoever's leading off Randy gets into scoring position and cow comes up and he's struggling, he swings and misses.
07:54 --> 07:57 [SPEAKER_00]: kind of throws a rut in their vision in the offense.
07:58 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's not really what you want.
07:59 --> 08:04 [SPEAKER_00]: So if he's going to make up for it by hitting at the amount of home runs he did, that's great.
08:04 --> 08:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think the murders are going to be totally, totally, totally okay with that.
08:08 --> 08:09 [SPEAKER_00]: A little bit more on Cal later though.
08:10 --> 08:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I do have one major takeaway from this weekend that I thought, like, as this game is going on on Sunday.
08:16 --> 08:17 [SPEAKER_00]: This is how it's supposed to look.
08:18 --> 08:23 [SPEAKER_00]: The lineup to, like, last home stand, the lineup was as good as it possibly could have been.
08:23 --> 08:30 [SPEAKER_00]: But just this three game series itself against the A's was exactly how this Mariners team is supposed to look in the playoffs.
08:31 --> 08:38 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I get a little annoyed when I watch this team on the road and it looks completely different and they don't look like any semblance of what they did this weekend.
08:38 --> 08:47 [SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about seven great innings from Ryan Wu, six good innings from George Kirby and six good innings from Logan Gilbert who struck out a career high thirteen guys on Sunday.
08:48 --> 08:54 [SPEAKER_00]: That is what you're supposed to be able to bring to the table when you're going up against some of the best teams in baseball and you throw out three guys
08:55 --> 08:59 [SPEAKER_00]: that you know, most other teams in baseball can't throw out at that time.
09:00 --> 09:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And you overwhelm the A's and you're just some situational offense away from sweeping the series.
09:06 --> 09:08 [SPEAKER_00]: You could have almost treated this weekend like a playoff series.
09:08 --> 09:10 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not playing a playoff opponent.
09:10 --> 09:25 [SPEAKER_00]: But you're there to win the series and because you have three starters, who are better than everyone else, you have a guy that you can put out there and say a decisive game three and he goes out there and throws six innings, dominates the opposing lineup, gets twenty five whiffs and thirteen strikeouts.
09:26 --> 09:27 [SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, who else is gonna match that?
09:28 --> 09:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Someone whispers in my ear, TJ.
09:30 --> 09:30 [SPEAKER_00]: TJ.
09:31 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the Phillies.
09:32 --> 09:33 [SPEAKER_00]: The Phillies can match up.
09:33 --> 09:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, jokes on you, they don't have to play the Phillies to the world series.
09:36 --> 09:39 [SPEAKER_00]: And if they make it that far, seasons are already a win.
09:40 --> 09:41 [SPEAKER_00]: So you don't have to worry about that.
09:42 --> 09:50 [SPEAKER_00]: But everyone else they get to match up against in this American League, the Red Sox, the Yankees, the Astros, the Tigers, perhaps the Royals.
09:51 --> 09:53 [SPEAKER_00]: No one has three starters like this.
09:53 --> 09:55 [SPEAKER_00]: And the Mariners showed what those three starters can go out there and do.
09:55 --> 09:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And I hope they do it on the road more, too.
09:58 --> 09:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Penny's worth of advice.
10:00 --> 10:08 [SPEAKER_01]: When the West do not send this team out on the road for a playoff series, because we've seen the drastic difference.
10:09 --> 10:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Just play these games at home.
10:11 --> 10:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Please and let your starters thrive where they thrive, because if they go out on the road, you're playing with fire.
10:17 --> 10:18 [SPEAKER_01]: You play at home?
10:18 --> 10:19 [SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna feel pretty good.
10:20 --> 10:22 [SPEAKER_00]: And guess what we get this week, Doug?
10:22 --> 10:24 [SPEAKER_00]: We get Bryce Miller back at home.
10:25 --> 10:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Bryce loves pitching a team mobile park.
10:28 --> 10:36 [SPEAKER_01]: To be fair to Bryce, the second half of the year last year, when he was on that crazy stretch, he pitched much better on the road, but yes, he thrives in Team Mobile Park, like this whole staff does.
10:37 --> 10:39 [SPEAKER_01]: So again, win the West.
10:40 --> 10:41 [SPEAKER_01]: The Astros have everybody injured.
10:43 --> 10:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, and I will say the Astros can still throw out Hunter Brown and Frammer in a series, but you know what the difference is?
10:51 --> 10:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Just line up what the Mariners did this weekend versus what the Astros could throw out.
10:55 --> 10:59 [SPEAKER_00]: It goes game one, it's Brian Lou vs. Framber.
10:59 --> 11:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Game two, it's George Kirby vs. Hunter Brown.
11:02 --> 11:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Game three, it's Logan Gilbert vs. Spencer Ergattie.
11:09 --> 11:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Great.
11:10 --> 11:12 [SPEAKER_00]: If they're an inch mariners, like this is what you want.
11:13 --> 11:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Like this, this is why this is so important.
11:16 --> 11:18 [SPEAKER_00]: You have it in front of you.
11:18 --> 11:21 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why the Philly series is kind of frustrating.
11:22 --> 11:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Because you knew this team had it in them, and the Philly sent out their starters, and you have your starters line up and you're like, all right.
11:30 --> 11:58 [SPEAKER_00]: like this is how we win these series is because this is why we develop this kind of starting pitching and then when it doesn't work out it doesn't work out in spectacular fashion you're really frustrated about it and then the Mariners come home and show oh yeah we can do it and it's like all right do it against teams like that big series win a game salvage a game when you're playing on the road you know how you win in the playoffs especially if you don't win your division or even if you win your division you got to win road games like you have to be able to win on the road in the playoffs
11:59 --> 12:01 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you can't, then you're probably not winning anything.
12:03 --> 12:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, that's my kind of mini rant slash takeaway from this, this homestand.
12:08 --> 12:08 [SPEAKER_00]: They showed what they could be.
12:09 --> 12:10 [SPEAKER_00]: They, they, they constantly show us.
12:10 --> 12:11 [SPEAKER_00]: And then now healthy.
12:12 --> 12:16 [SPEAKER_00]: And you got cow that with his record record, the record monkeys off his back.
12:17 --> 12:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Great.
12:17 --> 12:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Just go out there and like be better than everyone else because I, I know you have the roster for it.
12:22 --> 12:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I also don't think Logan Gilbert's starting game three of a play-off series.
12:25 --> 12:27 [SPEAKER_01]: They'd slot that rotation around.
12:27 --> 12:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Logan would probably pitch the first game, or second.
12:30 --> 12:34 [SPEAKER_00]: However order, whatever order we want to shuffle these starters around in, that's fine.
12:36 --> 12:43 [SPEAKER_00]: However, whatever order you're going to take, seven from Wu's six from Kirby and six from Gilbert, that's fine with me.
12:44 --> 12:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, great.
12:45 --> 12:45 [SPEAKER_01]: But do it at home.
12:46 --> 12:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't go out and play on the road in a wild card series where you don't get any home games.
12:51 --> 12:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Or hell, by the way, to get one of the top two seeds.
12:54 --> 12:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, if you go out on the road, you're playing with fire.
12:58 --> 12:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Just a little bit.
13:01 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_00]: At least none of these teams in the American Lake are very good.
13:04 --> 13:06 [SPEAKER_01]: No, but what happens when they've gone and played them on the road?
13:06 --> 13:07 [SPEAKER_01]: The Zasters ensued.
13:07 --> 13:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Not good things.
13:08 --> 13:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I did mention on our live show on Saturday, which, by the way, shout out to Corona, shout out to the Hall, fantastic set up again for a live show there at the Hall in Occidental.
13:17 --> 13:21 [SPEAKER_00]: For all of you listening that we're there, thank you so much for the support you guys mean the world to us.
13:21 --> 13:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully you guys enjoyed the giveaway, you enjoyed the food, enjoyed the drinks.
13:25 --> 13:26 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a fun time as always.
13:26 --> 13:32 [SPEAKER_00]: We got one more on the docket that we will announce when we officially figure out the date coming up here in September.
13:32 --> 13:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I did mention that the one team mostly because they've just kicked the crap out of the Mariners all season is the Yankees.
13:39 --> 13:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Even though loud there's really no reason I should be scared of the Yankees anymore because honestly I don't I don't think they're a good baseball team.
13:45 --> 13:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I've watched enough Anthony Volpi low lights at this point.
13:49 --> 13:51 [SPEAKER_00]: We're just like kind of hard to take it seriously.
13:52 --> 13:57 [SPEAKER_01]: They've got one player that's otherworldly and the rest of that team screams mid.
13:57 --> 13:58 [SPEAKER_01]: What else do you want us to say?
13:58 --> 14:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess we should give our credit to Max Freed.
14:00 --> 14:00 [SPEAKER_01]: He's other great year.
14:01 --> 14:04 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, the Yankees are not world beaters.
14:04 --> 14:08 [SPEAKER_01]: The Yankees are not sitting at top of the American League all high in mighty.
14:08 --> 14:10 [SPEAKER_01]: This is not your same old Yankees.
14:11 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_01]: They're weak.
14:12 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_01]: They have weaknesses.
14:13 --> 14:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Yankees fans have been pissed watching the Yankees over the last few weeks.
14:17 --> 14:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Just like plenty of Mariners fans have their own gripes about the team when they went out on the road and played badly.
14:21 --> 14:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Just about every fan base in this American League playoff picture has their gripes with their own team.
14:26 --> 14:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Red Sox have nerves.
14:28 --> 14:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yankees certainly have nerves.
14:30 --> 14:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Astros fans are getting nervous about their own guys.
14:32 --> 14:33 [SPEAKER_01]: We've certainly had plenty of our own.
14:34 --> 14:35 [SPEAKER_01]: It's across the board.
14:35 --> 14:37 [SPEAKER_01]: There is no perfect team in the American League.
14:38 --> 14:39 [SPEAKER_01]: But Tigers are Tigers fans nervous?
14:40 --> 14:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen as much discourse from Tigers fans to the honest.
14:43 --> 14:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I would do a scuba.
14:45 --> 14:46 [SPEAKER_01]: It helps.
14:46 --> 14:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but they haven't played great since the second half started either.
14:49 --> 14:51 [SPEAKER_00]: So Riley Green is really struggled.
14:53 --> 14:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Just as a whole, they're not, again, they're lead in terms of being the top team in the American League.
14:59 --> 15:00 [SPEAKER_01]: It's shrunk, big time.
15:00 --> 15:02 [SPEAKER_01]: It was not what it was in the first half of the year.
15:03 --> 15:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So all of a sudden you fast forward and everybody's in the similar bucket where nobody's standing far and away on top of the other.
15:10 --> 15:18 [SPEAKER_01]: But if you're the Mariners, play to your strengths, please find a way to avoid a roadsteries in the wildcard round.
15:18 --> 15:20 [SPEAKER_01]: That's where you can run into problems.
15:21 --> 15:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't mean to dog on Anthony Volpi, but I guess I'm gonna do it anyways.
15:27 --> 15:45 [SPEAKER_00]: As much as like we've been critical of JP's defense at times, I've never seen him make a play that I saw Volpi make this weekend where he goes to his left on a routine rounder and manages to clearly, like, sail the throw probably ten feet above his first basement, like routine.
15:46 --> 15:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think I've ever seen that awful and the Yankees don't have another short stop to replace them either and I don't think there's been any player defended more on the Yankees than Anthony Volpi, which is great.
15:57 --> 16:07 [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's got to like do well before this weekend, I guess kind of like Dimo Except that he's not going anywhere again.
16:07 --> 16:08 [SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna be their short stop.
16:08 --> 16:10 [SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna be playing short stop for them in the playoffs.
16:11 --> 16:12 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know
16:13 --> 16:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I do know what their solution is.
16:15 --> 16:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I was about to say, I don't know what their solution is.
16:17 --> 16:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I do.
16:17 --> 16:18 [SPEAKER_01]: It's nothing.
16:18 --> 16:19 [SPEAKER_01]: This is the team they've assembled.
16:19 --> 16:21 [SPEAKER_01]: They can't go re-acquire or acquire anybody else.
16:22 --> 16:23 [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to run them out there.
16:23 --> 16:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And if that's your starting shortstop, you're running yourself at a major disadvantage.
16:28 --> 16:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say the team that scares me most is the royals, and that's mostly because they fought their way back into this.
16:33 --> 16:36 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like they're a half a game back in the Mariners.
16:36 --> 16:38 [SPEAKER_01]: They're three games back as we sit and record this.
16:39 --> 16:52 [SPEAKER_01]: but they were out of it for a long time and all of a sudden one good week shot him back into the picture and the Mariners can't sit so comfortably anymore in the wildcard picture because there are teams on their tail mainly the royals.
16:53 --> 16:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember I did raise my eyebrow when they bought it the deadline like they didn't do a huge buy but they like micro bought
17:00 --> 17:01 [SPEAKER_00]: at the trade deadline.
17:01 --> 17:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And now they've found themselves back in like back in this race.
17:05 --> 17:08 [SPEAKER_00]: That is why this expanded playoff for like every team.
17:09 --> 17:11 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the ultimate equalizer.
17:11 --> 17:15 [SPEAKER_00]: You can be totally out of it for months of the season and not look good at all.
17:16 --> 17:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Find a little hot street in August and all of a sudden the Royals are within arms reach of the Mariners.
17:21 --> 17:25 [SPEAKER_00]: And the Royals look at that series in the middle of September in Kansas City.
17:25 --> 17:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Be like, wow.
17:28 --> 17:29 [SPEAKER_00]: What if we sweep?
17:31 --> 17:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Like what do we have?
17:31 --> 17:34 [SPEAKER_00]: What have we played great series against the Mariners?
17:34 --> 17:35 [SPEAKER_00]: What have we played like?
17:35 --> 17:37 [SPEAKER_00]: We played against some the last few years in Kansas City.
17:38 --> 17:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Then we're right back in it.
17:40 --> 17:42 [SPEAKER_00]: So, like, why, why give up at that point?
17:42 --> 17:46 [SPEAKER_00]: So, I'm actually kind of with you, Lyle, on, on the royals.
17:46 --> 17:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that, I don't even think they're that good.
17:49 --> 17:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember watching that lineup here in Seattle last month, I think it was last month.
17:54 --> 17:56 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's, it's not a good lineup.
17:57 --> 18:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Like Bobby Witt's been, really good this year has not been as good as he was last year.
18:01 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_00]: My Kelgarcy is a stud.
18:04 --> 18:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise,
18:07 --> 18:10 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not something that blows you away, but they've been, you know, they've been playing well enough.
18:10 --> 18:11 [SPEAKER_00]: So, credit to them.
18:12 --> 18:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Except, they can pitch.
18:14 --> 18:14 [SPEAKER_00]: They can.
18:15 --> 18:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Lugo, boobitch, walker.
18:18 --> 18:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they're supposed to get Cole Reagan's back this year or not, but they've got a real playoff rotation.
18:24 --> 18:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So, that is a team that if you line up with them, well, you wouldn't line up with them in a playoff series, but if you line up with them in Kansas City where you get the wrong side of that rotation and you get their, a guys,
18:36 --> 18:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a series of Mariners have to win, because one bad series against Kansas City could jump him right back into the field.
18:42 --> 18:45 [SPEAKER_01]: They're already in the field, but they could be taken a lot more seriously.
18:45 --> 18:48 [SPEAKER_01]: If the Mariners do not go out and win that series in Kansas City in a couple weeks.
18:49 --> 18:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Especially if say you play like crap against the Padres, this upcoming series and the Royals, I don't know who the Royals are playing next, but say they sweep that series, and then all of a sudden,
19:01 --> 19:04 [SPEAKER_00]: People are starting to sweat a little bit, and that you cannot have that.
19:04 --> 19:05 [SPEAKER_00]: You cannot have that.
19:05 --> 19:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Put a team between yourself and the Royals, which actually I think will happen.
19:09 --> 19:21 [SPEAKER_00]: No, actually the Red Sox would need to beat the Yankees tonight, which I don't think is going to happen unless they blown the leads since we started recording, in which case there would not be a team between the Mariners and the Royals.
19:21 --> 19:23 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, don't let that happen, please.
19:24 --> 19:25 [SPEAKER_01]: You know the Royals are playing this week.
19:27 --> 19:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, don't tell me it's the, I have a guess, and I'm scared to say it.
19:33 --> 19:34 [SPEAKER_00]: The Rockies?
19:35 --> 19:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Close, but no.
19:37 --> 19:40 [SPEAKER_00]: The only close thing to the Rockies is the White Sox.
19:41 --> 19:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Ding ding ding.
19:43 --> 19:44 [SPEAKER_01]: They got the White Sox.
19:45 --> 19:45 [SPEAKER_00]: That's not good.
19:46 --> 19:53 [SPEAKER_00]: And the Royals went twelve and one against the White Sox last year, which is probably most of the reason they beat the Mariners for a playoff spot.
19:55 --> 20:06 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners this week, by the way, face JPCers, who they've struggled against plenty, then they face Dylan Cs, who despite not a strong year, you know can bring it any given day, and then when.
20:06 --> 20:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And then on Wednesday, same idea, they face you garbage.
20:10 --> 20:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Hasn't had a good year, but you know he can bring it.
20:13 --> 20:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you have the Frank Udarvers clip?
20:17 --> 20:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Not, not close enough to me where I can get it ready for twenty seconds from now to play.
20:22 --> 20:28 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't need to play it on the podcast, but I'm thinking, well, actually, maybe for Wednesday's podcast.
20:29 --> 20:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Cause that would be a garbage start day.
20:32 --> 20:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Look, we can have like the, we can have like the waves of vibes, because we do have an awesome interview for Wednesday's podcast, but at least in the portion with just the two of us.
20:41 --> 20:45 [SPEAKER_00]: We can get people ready for the vibe check of you facing you, garbage and a playoff chase.
20:46 --> 20:46 [UNKNOWN]: be awful.
20:47 --> 20:54 [SPEAKER_01]: The problem is he's facing he's pitching in the finale of this series so he can't shut him out in game one and then come back and relief for game two.
20:56 --> 20:58 [SPEAKER_00]: It's all about the vibe while.
20:59 --> 20:59 [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
21:00 --> 21:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm not going to be able to pull it up in time.
21:02 --> 21:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He basically starts screaming back in twenty twenty two that the Metz are going to face you, Darvish in the playoff.
21:07 --> 21:12 [SPEAKER_01]: So he says he's going to shut him out in game one and here it comes in relief for game two.
21:12 --> 21:14 [SPEAKER_01]: You, Darvish.
21:14 --> 21:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And he throws like four shut out of the bullpen.
21:20 --> 21:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's think of a way to incorporate that on Wednesday morning.
21:23 --> 21:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I think, yeah, I think that'd be good.
21:25 --> 21:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Before the game, I'm going to be good prep.
21:27 --> 21:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I do want to tie up a couple of notes on Cal before we get to a real fun story from this weekend that we finally achieved something we wanted to want to tell you guys about it.
21:37 --> 21:39 [SPEAKER_00]: But before that, let's talk about Cal.
21:39 --> 21:40 [SPEAKER_00]: So he breaks the record.
21:41 --> 21:42 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got forty nine now.
21:43 --> 21:44 [SPEAKER_00]: It is August, twenty fourth.
21:45 --> 21:48 [SPEAKER_00]: There is thirty three games remaining for Cal.
21:49 --> 21:50 [SPEAKER_00]: How many are we thinking now?
21:51 --> 21:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Forty nine with thirty three games remaining.
21:56 --> 21:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm still saying he can break judge.
21:59 --> 22:06 [SPEAKER_00]: So what do we think and maybe a four home or series against the Padres and then he leaves himself within ten home runs with a month left?
22:08 --> 22:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or even if he needs twelve in September, that's manageable.
22:12 --> 22:13 [SPEAKER_00]: He can do that.
22:14 --> 22:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he needs a nuclear September.
22:16 --> 22:20 [SPEAKER_00]: None of this is going to happen without him going bonkers in September.
22:20 --> 22:24 [SPEAKER_00]: And I do remember Judge down the stretch of that season was incredibly hot.
22:24 --> 22:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hot enough where they're cutting away from college football games, which you're going to be doing, right?
22:29 --> 22:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, man.
22:31 --> 22:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Surely.
22:32 --> 22:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Surely.
22:34 --> 22:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Start giving Caledogoli Ox balls like they did for Aaron Judge.
22:37 --> 22:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would be good.
22:38 --> 22:39 [SPEAKER_00]: What am I going to say?
22:39 --> 22:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I said, fifty five to fifty six earlier.
22:42 --> 22:42 [SPEAKER_00]: That honestly,
22:44 --> 22:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'll go up to fifty eight.
22:45 --> 22:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I think fifty eight.
22:47 --> 22:56 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got to like like he's been hitting home runs as we talked about, but he does need to start making a little bit more contact and give himself a little bit more of a chance.
22:56 --> 23:03 [SPEAKER_00]: The slash line since July first is one eighty five two eighty one four fifty two before his two home runs today.
23:05 --> 23:09 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a one oh five WRC plus it's a lot of power.
23:11 --> 23:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Some walk almost no contact like he does have to make more contact if he's going to get to judge his record if he goes to a season slash line and makes contact to hit for a two forty seven average.
23:27 --> 23:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Then we're talking about stuff that's a lot different.
23:30 --> 23:34 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not to say he's not going to be valuable, is if he's going to get to the home run record.
23:35 --> 23:37 [SPEAKER_00]: He's provided all of his value this season.
23:37 --> 23:40 [SPEAKER_00]: He's at freaking forty nine home runs on August twenty fourth.
23:41 --> 23:42 [SPEAKER_00]: The value's been given.
23:42 --> 23:46 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just whether or not he's going to be hot enough to go get that record right now.
23:46 --> 23:55 [SPEAKER_00]: If you have a prediction, by the way, just drop it in YouTube comments, send us a DM, comment on the our quote cards, whatever it works for you, whether or not he's going to get it.
23:57 --> 23:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to get it because I have believe in this.
24:00 --> 24:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Why can't Calget Hot down the stretch?
24:02 --> 24:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just had this cold streak for a few weeks where some of the stuff started to level out.
24:07 --> 24:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Feels like right about the time he could pick it up again and get hot.
24:10 --> 24:13 [SPEAKER_01]: So if he's going to go nuclear in September, which by the way, the schedule gets easier.
24:14 --> 24:17 [SPEAKER_01]: They play some teams that are a lot easier to face between
24:18 --> 24:20 [SPEAKER_01]: You go to Tampa in that ballpark.
24:21 --> 24:23 [SPEAKER_01]: You go and face the braves.
24:23 --> 24:26 [SPEAKER_01]: You go and face the braves where you won the home run derby against the rotation.
24:26 --> 24:27 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not very good.
24:27 --> 24:32 [SPEAKER_00]: A note about that Tampa ballpark, the Yankees hit nine home runs in a game at that park.
24:33 --> 24:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
24:34 --> 24:35 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a record, by the way.
24:36 --> 24:39 [SPEAKER_01]: You could see cow hit four or five in that series, hundred percent.
24:40 --> 24:50 [SPEAKER_01]: So easy to go to Tampa, you go to Atlanta, you're gonna go to Houston at some point, which look, they have two really dominant arms, but park the ZZ to hit homers in.
24:52 --> 24:54 [SPEAKER_01]: There is a world where cow can absolutely do this.
24:54 --> 24:55 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, the schedule gets easier.
24:55 --> 24:56 [SPEAKER_01]: You play the Rockies.
24:57 --> 24:59 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if the Dodgers actually have to try in the final weekend.
25:00 --> 25:03 [SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna play the Cardinals whose rotation is awful.
25:03 --> 25:05 [SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna play the Angels whose rotation is not very good.
25:06 --> 25:07 [SPEAKER_01]: You could actually do this.
25:10 --> 25:10 [SPEAKER_00]: You're, you're selling me.
25:12 --> 25:14 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a long, it's a long way to go.
25:14 --> 25:18 [SPEAKER_00]: It will be, he would need to break the record in the Dodger series.
25:19 --> 25:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it would be in that Dodger series.
25:21 --> 25:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Unless he hits ten home runs against the Rockies, which is entirely possible.
25:26 --> 25:29 [SPEAKER_00]: The challenge for you loud name, a Colorado Rockies starting pitcher.
25:31 --> 25:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Is an Antonio sense of tell us still there?
25:32 --> 25:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Isn't her mom or kids still there?
25:36 --> 25:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess so are they?
25:38 --> 25:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so you're giving me homework in the middle of the podcast to do after you've quizzed me and say name Iraqis pitcher fine.
25:44 --> 25:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll do it.
25:45 --> 25:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll I'll actually be the one to put in the work unlike I did every day.
25:49 --> 25:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I said, well, I thought of it in the moment.
25:52 --> 25:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Here.
25:52 --> 25:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me look for you.
25:53 --> 25:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I already did it.
25:54 --> 25:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, sense of teller and Mark has are both in the rotation.
25:57 --> 25:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and another one of their
25:59 --> 26:04 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, former teammates, or sorry, a long-time rotation mate is in there in Kyle Freeland.
26:04 --> 26:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, man, this God.
26:06 --> 26:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he should hit at least five home runs against this rotation.
26:10 --> 26:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Even Chase Doleander, who you know's got crazy upside and was a top five pick, he has been awful in his work year.
26:16 --> 26:20 [SPEAKER_00]: He's two is a six nine one ERA.
26:20 --> 26:25 [SPEAKER_00]: The lowest ERA in the Colorado Rockies rotation is five point three.
26:26 --> 26:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just read these six ERAs.
26:28 --> 26:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I know we're a month away from the Rocky series, but while we're on the topic, this is hilarious.
26:32 --> 26:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even gonna read the names.
26:33 --> 26:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just gonna read the six ERAs among qualified starters this year.
26:36 --> 26:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Five, three, one, seven, one, five, five, six, seven, six, nine, one, seven, four, nine, and eight, six, two.
26:46 --> 26:47 [SPEAKER_01]: How?
26:49 --> 26:52 [SPEAKER_00]: That is for Coursfield, even that is remarkable.
26:53 --> 26:55 [SPEAKER_01]: How are anybody watching those games?
26:55 --> 26:57 [SPEAKER_01]: How are people watching those games?
26:57 --> 26:59 [SPEAKER_00]: There's no way.
27:00 --> 27:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you what.
27:01 --> 27:03 [SPEAKER_00]: They have a really nice beer garden at course field.
27:03 --> 27:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Up on that third deck and right field.
27:06 --> 27:08 [SPEAKER_00]: That might be the only reason why people go to the games.
27:10 --> 27:12 [SPEAKER_01]: It's insanity and the weather is nice.
27:14 --> 27:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, there's a world of cow can absolutely do this.
27:16 --> 27:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And to spend a second on what he did here on Sunday, he is now absolutely firmly entered the category of being in the discussion for best season by a catcher ever.
27:26 --> 27:28 [SPEAKER_01]: The other guys he'd be in competition with,
27:29 --> 27:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Mike, he ought to had a couple years or absolutely dominant on the Dodgers.
27:32 --> 27:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Joe Maurer in his, I believe MVP here in the timeline.
27:37 --> 27:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
27:38 --> 27:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, nine.
27:38 --> 27:40 [SPEAKER_00]: So nine is MVP year or two thousand seven.
27:41 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was oh nine because oh nine he had twenty four homers.
27:45 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's he's great defensively that year.
27:47 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
27:47 --> 27:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Those is only real power season.
27:49 --> 27:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was oh nine.
27:50 --> 27:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't remember which year more no one.
27:52 --> 27:54 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a more nor one in a different year for the twins.
27:54 --> 27:56 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I think was oh seven or six.
27:56 --> 27:57 [SPEAKER_00]: That would make sense.
27:58 --> 28:02 [SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, cows in the conversation now, he has to be.
28:03 --> 28:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I understand Mike Piazza had two different thousand OPS seasons of the catcher, but those guys didn't hit forty-nine homers.
28:08 --> 28:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Those guys did not handle a rotation that can be the best in baseball.
28:13 --> 28:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Mike Piazza was never a great defender.
28:15 --> 28:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Joe Mower didn't even have half the home runs that cow rallies going to end up with at the end of the year, because he had twenty-eighth that year.
28:23 --> 28:29 [SPEAKER_01]: It is absolutely in everybody's right to say this is the best season a catcher has ever had.
28:29 --> 28:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And if he wins the MVP, yeah, he'll be in that conversation because you mark you mark up Cal Raleigh's twenty twenty five year to powers own nine MVP season.
28:39 --> 28:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Now or might end up with the higher OPS he probably will.
28:42 --> 28:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Hitching wasn't as good back then home runs weren't there.
28:48 --> 28:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I would take Cal Rally.
28:50 --> 28:58 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't hit, you don't hit fifty six or whatever home runs as a catcher from both sides of the plate in the twenty twenty five era with this pitching.
28:59 --> 29:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Nobody does that.
29:00 --> 29:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's doing it.
29:02 --> 29:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And in terms of the best overall catching season period, I believe the only guy he's still chasing is Buster Posey.
29:09 --> 29:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Because Buster Posey in, I want to say it was twenty-twelf when he won his MVP had a ten-war season.
29:17 --> 29:18 [SPEAKER_00]: That was the year.
29:19 --> 29:21 [SPEAKER_00]: And we've highlighted this in an earlier episode.
29:22 --> 29:37 [SPEAKER_00]: That, like, cow right now today, sitting here almost at the end of August, is that I'm going to say he's at like seven point one or seven point two, fan grabs wins above replacement, entering tomorrow on Monday, August, twenty-fifth.
29:38 --> 29:49 [SPEAKER_00]: to catch Posey from like the war perspective, which is all encompassing, framing, defense, offense, the whole, the whole shabang would need to get up to ten.
29:49 --> 29:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think cows getting ten.
29:52 --> 29:57 [SPEAKER_00]: He could still get nine and nine with sixty home runs.
29:57 --> 30:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I still think as a pretty good case over Posey who in that season, I don't even think he had thirty.
30:03 --> 30:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if Posey, to Posey ever hit thirty homeers in a season.
30:06 --> 30:14 [SPEAKER_01]: that year you're referring to you had twenty four assuming you're talking about just twenty twelve so twenty twelve we had nine point eight wins of over placement.
30:14 --> 30:15 [SPEAKER_00]: As a callers.
30:15 --> 30:21 [SPEAKER_01]: So again callers callers already doubled the amount of home runs on August twenty four the posi hit in that season.
30:21 --> 30:27 [SPEAKER_00]: From an offensive production standpoint and I'm all hold us accountable to this because we use the stattle the time from a WRC plus perspective.
30:28 --> 30:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Buster posi that season had a one sixty four WRC plus cow right now is a one sixty after his two homers today.
30:35 --> 30:36 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's where he's looking at.
30:36 --> 30:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Cow was above that for most of the season.
30:38 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_00]: His slumps into life first is brought that number back down.
30:42 --> 30:55 [SPEAKER_00]: So the question is, if Cow really heats up, not only will benefit him from a home run chasing an RBI perspective, which we don't use RBI's all that much, but Cow really might end up with like, a hundred and forty, which is a shit ton of RBI's.
30:55 --> 30:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Where that stacks up among catchers all time, especially given they don't play all the time.
31:00 --> 31:01 [SPEAKER_00]: How is that going to work then?
31:02 --> 31:08 [SPEAKER_00]: against Buster Posey when you take an account all of these other things like the WRC+.
31:09 --> 31:14 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to be doing on base percentage pretty much everything else besides war will be in favor of Cal.
31:16 --> 31:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Mike Piazza had a one eighty three WRC plus a nineteen ninety seven that was his best offensive season he hit forty homers that year so again he hit forty total against worst pitching cows got forty nine against much better pitching on August the twenty four and despite Piazza having the higher way to runs created he didn't catch like cow catches piazza was not a great defense of catcher so he doesn't hold that same value that's why his war wasn't through the roof that year and he came to you sorry go ahead you finish
31:46 --> 31:47 [SPEAKER_01]: How many games did he play that year?
31:47 --> 31:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I was going to say, how many games did he catch?
31:50 --> 31:51 [SPEAKER_01]: That all have to look up.
31:51 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_01]: He played a hundred fifty two.
31:53 --> 31:54 [SPEAKER_01]: But he was with the Dodgers.
31:54 --> 31:57 [SPEAKER_01]: So it must have been most of them because there was no D. Oh, there's no D. H. Yeah.
31:57 --> 32:03 [SPEAKER_01]: So he did catch on her fifty two times in less a D. H. And the few games that they went to American League parks.
32:03 --> 32:04 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a fair point.
32:04 --> 32:05 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fun.
32:05 --> 32:06 [SPEAKER_00]: But it's still back then.
32:06 --> 32:06 [SPEAKER_00]: It was not a lot.
32:07 --> 32:10 [SPEAKER_01]: No, and back then they didn't have a ton of games against American League teams.
32:10 --> 32:12 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a handful or two a year.
32:12 --> 32:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Two or three series.
32:15 --> 32:20 [SPEAKER_01]: So I would say he upholds and surpasses Piazza in that way.
32:20 --> 32:22 [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to compare Mower, that's fair.
32:23 --> 32:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, Mower didn't have the homers.
32:25 --> 32:26 [SPEAKER_01]: His WRC plus was one-seventy.
32:26 --> 32:28 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's a little higher than where cows is at right now.
32:29 --> 32:34 [SPEAKER_01]: But if cow gets on this hot streak in September and approaches Aaron Judges' home run record,
32:35 --> 32:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Then you would assume he would get up back to that one-seventy mark and be right in line with Joe Mauer, who was an phenomenal catcher, like Callez, didn't hit the home runs of Callez, played in a much friendly or ballpark than Callez playing in, because Mauer did that when it was still the metronome.
32:49 --> 32:52 [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't outside yet, so he had that advantage too.
32:54 --> 32:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say.
32:56 --> 33:00 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think with that all combined, I would take Cal over Maurer again.
33:00 --> 33:01 [SPEAKER_01]: He just didn't have the true.
33:02 --> 33:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that he wasn't a dominant offense of player, he was, but he didn't have that fear factor that Cal has at the plate.
33:07 --> 33:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Maurer really killed people with a lot of doubles, which again is incredibly valuable.
33:12 --> 33:15 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a reason the guy won the MVP that year, but it wasn't the same fear factor.
33:17 --> 33:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Do we want to ramp up the comparisons here?
33:20 --> 33:21 [SPEAKER_00]: We could go on to switch hitters.
33:22 --> 33:25 [SPEAKER_00]: He's now only trailing Mickey Manel.
33:26 --> 33:28 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think he's going to pass Mickey Manel this season.
33:29 --> 33:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's the next threshold, isn't it?
33:30 --> 33:32 [SPEAKER_01]: He passed Salvi.
33:32 --> 33:33 [SPEAKER_01]: He's passed all the catcher records.
33:34 --> 33:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Now he's moving on to bigger and better things.
33:35 --> 33:43 [SPEAKER_01]: And before he'd get to judge, the next dragon he has to fly is Mickey Manel, which would be most home runs in a single season by a switch hitter.
33:43 --> 33:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And you're right, he is right there.
33:44 --> 33:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Which is different too.
33:48 --> 33:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's fifty-two.
33:50 --> 33:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me double check that.
33:52 --> 33:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it might have been a little higher.
33:54 --> 33:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Fifty-four.
33:55 --> 33:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Fifty-four.
33:56 --> 33:57 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's right.
33:57 --> 33:58 [SPEAKER_01]: So you just to get to fifty-five.
33:58 --> 33:59 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I thought.
34:00 --> 34:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
34:01 --> 34:11 [SPEAKER_00]: which I'm not I can't guarantee things because then it's just going to look terrible on me if he doesn't do it but it feels like he's going to get to fifty five home runs this year.
34:12 --> 34:23 [SPEAKER_00]: It's nice when he actually gets to these records so we don't have to sit here and theorize it all the time it's like all right now he has the best power season all time from a catcher one of the best offensive seasons ever by a catcher.
34:23 --> 34:27 [SPEAKER_00]: And now he's going forward towards not capture records.
34:27 --> 34:28 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going towards baseball records.
34:29 --> 34:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Like switch it in his heart.
34:30 --> 34:32 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a reason guys haven't broken Mickey Manel's record.
34:33 --> 34:38 [SPEAKER_00]: It is hard to have a swing from both sides of the plate to generate as much power as Cal is done.
34:39 --> 34:44 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's a credit to Cal, which I think is my last real takeaway from this weekend, Lyle, is that he breaks the record.
34:45 --> 34:49 [SPEAKER_00]: with the swing that was the entire reason he's had that season in the first place.
34:49 --> 34:52 [SPEAKER_00]: He's always been a good powerheader from the left hand side, swinging left hand.
34:53 --> 34:54 [SPEAKER_00]: He's always been had a ton of power.
34:55 --> 34:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Right hand is not.
34:56 --> 35:05 [SPEAKER_00]: There were times early in his career, when there would be a left y'all in the mound, they like Tom Murphy would play, not Cal Rawley because they didn't like his swing.
35:06 --> 35:12 [SPEAKER_00]: And now, Cal's right hand at swing and during today, he had a nine, seventy OPS and he crushed, crushed.
35:13 --> 35:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Two home runs.
35:14 --> 35:19 [SPEAKER_00]: That was a swing that I remember people were telling us, we talked to people about this.
35:20 --> 35:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Like this swing used to be like a contact oriented swing from the right side.
35:23 --> 35:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Contact, flat, hit for average, don't walk.
35:26 --> 35:27 [SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
35:28 --> 35:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Now he's hitting balls, a hundred and ten to a hundred and fifteen miles an hour from the right side and crushing them into the upper deck or Nelson Cruz used to who only hit right handed.
35:37 --> 35:44 [SPEAKER_00]: It really is incredible man how the student is developed into the ultimate power header and you know the other thing I realized this weekend.
35:45 --> 35:47 [SPEAKER_00]: As if we hadn't realized it already enough.
35:47 --> 35:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean this dude is very quickly trending towards inner circle mariner with griffy.
35:54 --> 35:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Edgar.
35:56 --> 35:56 [SPEAKER_00]: God.
35:57 --> 36:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Felix I can't be misremembering intercircle mariners Randy and I know I'm missing one R and I you're missing two because you said Felix you said Randy you said griffy and you said Edgar a rod to a rod yeah there's one more are you spline my forgetting that fucking serious
36:19 --> 36:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Why am I shot him?
36:20 --> 36:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you shouldn't because he was just... Oh, and each row.
36:24 --> 36:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Good Lord, dude.
36:25 --> 36:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking of the wrong teams, okay?
36:28 --> 36:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Each of us spent all his time on teams that sucked.
36:31 --> 36:32 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean wrong teams?
36:32 --> 36:33 [SPEAKER_01]: He just got his number retired.
36:33 --> 36:36 [SPEAKER_00]: A staring at it all weekend.
36:38 --> 36:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, those ones.
36:39 --> 36:42 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's going very quickly towards those guys.
36:43 --> 36:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Very quickly.
36:44 --> 36:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
36:46 --> 36:47 [SPEAKER_01]: He might break Rippie's home run record.
36:48 --> 36:53 [SPEAKER_01]: The only players that have ever had fifty home runs in a season for the Mariners.
36:54 --> 36:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I say it in plural and I shouldn't.
36:55 --> 36:56 [SPEAKER_01]: It's one.
36:56 --> 36:58 [SPEAKER_01]: It's kangaroo junior who did it twice.
36:59 --> 37:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Cal Rally hits one more home run.
37:00 --> 37:03 [SPEAKER_01]: He is the only other mariner to ever have a fifty home or season.
37:03 --> 37:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he's coming under circle.
37:06 --> 37:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Like stamp eating towards an inner circle, Mariners.
37:09 --> 37:11 [SPEAKER_00]: How much changes in five months?
37:13 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he was like team captain and like all first team all like lovable team guy who's very good at baseball in March.
37:22 --> 37:26 [SPEAKER_00]: And now he's among, I'll say his name first just so I don't forget it.
37:26 --> 37:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Each row, Edgar, Griffey, A-Rot, Randy Felix.
37:32 --> 37:33 [SPEAKER_00]: It's insanity.
37:33 --> 37:37 [SPEAKER_01]: He went from, we'll use the line we've continued to use all year.
37:37 --> 37:43 [SPEAKER_01]: He went from being arguably the best catcher in baseball to being one of the best players in baseball.
37:44 --> 37:46 [SPEAKER_01]: That's that's what's changed in five months.
37:47 --> 37:49 [SPEAKER_01]: There was an argument at the start of the year.
37:49 --> 37:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Who's the best catcher?
37:50 --> 37:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it cows at William Contreras?
37:51 --> 37:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it one or two others?
37:52 --> 37:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Could it be Will Smith?
37:54 --> 37:58 [SPEAKER_01]: It's gone from that to one of the best players in baseball.
37:58 --> 38:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's gone from being in conversations with Contreras.
38:01 --> 38:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Will Smith, etc.
38:04 --> 38:08 [SPEAKER_01]: To Aaron Judd, Joe Hayo, Tony, Bobby Witt,
38:08 --> 38:09 [SPEAKER_01]: That group.
38:10 --> 38:12 [SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty cool.
38:12 --> 38:13 [SPEAKER_00]: You make our lives a lot cooler.
38:14 --> 38:15 [SPEAKER_00]: A lot more fun to watch Mariners baseball.
38:16 --> 38:17 [SPEAKER_00]: It's been sick.
38:17 --> 38:20 [SPEAKER_00]: How about we get to the most fun story for us to the weekend?
38:20 --> 38:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Had nothing to do with that?
38:21 --> 38:24 [SPEAKER_00]: What actually happened while baseball was being played on the diamond?
38:25 --> 38:36 [SPEAKER_00]: We set ourselves a goal as of about August first that we needed a doctor Josh Nailer and Boyle out and we talked to Josh Nailer finally this weekend.
38:38 --> 38:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we talked.
38:39 --> 38:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much talking he did in summary.
38:46 --> 38:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Josh Nailer was as expected.
38:49 --> 38:51 [SPEAKER_00]: And I will say he was very nice.
38:52 --> 38:57 [SPEAKER_00]: He had his custom hockey jersey on, which if you haven't seen it, you should go look online.
38:57 --> 38:58 [SPEAKER_00]: It's on there.
38:59 --> 39:04 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like a custom Mariners hockey jersey with his number on the back.
39:04 --> 39:05 [SPEAKER_00]: It has nails N.A.
39:06 --> 39:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Y. L. Z. His nickname as the nameplate.
39:10 --> 39:11 [SPEAKER_00]: It's adult jersey.
39:11 --> 39:13 [SPEAKER_00]: It's probably a one of one.
39:13 --> 39:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's just out there kind of like hanging out.
39:15 --> 39:16 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got his beanie on.
39:18 --> 39:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, we flag him down because we want to get him on the mic.
39:21 --> 39:22 [SPEAKER_00]: We have some things for him.
39:23 --> 39:26 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, he was nice.
39:26 --> 39:26 [SPEAKER_00]: He agreed to do it.
39:28 --> 39:28 [SPEAKER_00]: He said okay.
39:30 --> 39:38 [SPEAKER_00]: But when it came to, you know, talking and saying more than two words, he didn't do it.
39:39 --> 39:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, usually these guys are pretty good about giving us some answers where we can riff with them a little bit and we can go back and forth and have some follow-ups to the things they say, which is what we try to do in interviews to make them more engaging.
39:50 --> 39:54 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's not just ask questions, ask questions, answer or move on.
39:54 --> 39:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Especially when you're trying to have some fun with it, because the idea is to go back and forth.
39:58 --> 40:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we haven't posted any of this stuff yet, eventually we obviously will.
40:02 --> 40:05 [SPEAKER_01]: But when we get to posting all this stuff on social media, you guys will see.
40:07 --> 40:16 [SPEAKER_01]: There's not much worse to go on because he's literally given about one word answers and it's like, well, I don't know what to say next.
40:17 --> 40:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a lot to say after that.
40:19 --> 40:43 [SPEAKER_01]: it it goes it goes like this question ask the question answer say something funny back and in Josh says okay well time to move on and again I want to I want to make sure we definitively say this he was nice it like it's it wasn't a it wasn't
40:44 --> 40:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, it wasn't a negative interaction.
40:47 --> 40:48 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not what we're trying to get at.
40:49 --> 40:58 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just more us telling the story because it very much lives up to the whole aura of Josh Nailer that we've learned about here through the first three or four weeks of him being in a mariner uniform.
40:58 --> 40:59 [SPEAKER_01]: That this whole big grumper narrative
41:01 --> 41:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, from what we experienced, it's real.
41:03 --> 41:04 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like he's outwardly an asshole.
41:04 --> 41:05 [SPEAKER_01]: The people he's not.
41:06 --> 41:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know people in the clubhouse like him.
41:07 --> 41:09 [SPEAKER_01]: That's all you've heard that since he's gotten there.
41:09 --> 41:10 [SPEAKER_01]: He brings the edge.
41:10 --> 41:12 [SPEAKER_01]: People like being around him.
41:12 --> 41:13 [SPEAKER_01]: It works hard.
41:13 --> 41:17 [SPEAKER_01]: But just not a guy with a lot of words.
41:18 --> 41:19 [SPEAKER_01]: A man of many, few words.
41:20 --> 41:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess that's the best way you can put it.
41:21 --> 41:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And he does it in a way that's not very just outward.
41:26 --> 41:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Expressive.
41:27 --> 41:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, expressive.
41:28 --> 41:29 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good way to put it.
41:29 --> 41:34 [SPEAKER_01]: You want to tell him what went down even before we got on the mic because we were trying to prep him with.
41:38 --> 41:57 [SPEAKER_01]: what would be best fitted for him because usually with these players of people are curious will prepare a few things we try to team up for things that they do best with so we don't put them on the spot too much and give them something that they know nothing about or can answer so we asked them a couple questions and tj says
41:58 --> 42:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, first of all, I just want to say that if I want to describe Josh Nailer, it's Canadian nice but with like the big grumper overtones of that.
42:12 --> 42:13 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, they both exist.
42:13 --> 42:20 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're curious of like what the personality, we experienced in the seven minutes, we were with Josh Taylor.
42:20 --> 42:22 [SPEAKER_00]: That, that is what it was.
42:23 --> 42:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, so yeah, so we're prepping Josh Taylor, we're like, hey, Josh, like, great.
42:27 --> 42:28 [SPEAKER_00]: We do stuff on social media.
42:28 --> 42:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Great.
42:29 --> 42:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's what we got for you.
42:30 --> 42:32 [SPEAKER_00]: We have a couple ideas for you.
42:33 --> 42:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Since you're Canadian, it's like, could you name the Canadian baseball home run leaders?
42:38 --> 42:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Looks at us and he goes,
42:41 --> 42:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't watch baseball.
42:44 --> 42:44 [UNKNOWN]: Great.
42:46 --> 42:49 [SPEAKER_00]: So Josh Nailer, very good at baseball.
42:49 --> 42:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't watch a whole lot of baseball.
42:51 --> 42:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what he watches.
42:52 --> 42:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he's a big hockey fan.
42:53 --> 42:56 [SPEAKER_00]: He's wearing the hockey jerseys from Canada.
42:56 --> 42:59 [SPEAKER_00]: So I would assume he's a semi decent hockey fan.
43:00 --> 43:02 [SPEAKER_00]: But he was like pretty blunt and upfront with us.
43:02 --> 43:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Which I appreciate so we didn't like
43:05 --> 43:14 [SPEAKER_00]: get him on the mic and then you're quizzing him on these things and he just kind of looks at you with a puzzle face and you're like, it's kind of worse there in that moment where you realize, oh, this just literally is not going to work.
43:15 --> 43:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Like this is that this is a total of that.
43:17 --> 43:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's like cut it.
43:18 --> 43:20 [SPEAKER_00]: It's good to just cut it before it even starts.
43:20 --> 43:23 [SPEAKER_00]: But that is what we said and we're like, oh, so we probably can do the other things either.
43:24 --> 43:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we just figured since he's from Canada and the Canadian home run leaders will be
43:29 --> 43:33 [SPEAKER_01]: mostly the biggest name guys to ever play in major league baseball from Canada.
43:33 --> 43:37 [SPEAKER_01]: He would have some idea we could give him a couple hands, but no straight into the point.
43:38 --> 43:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't watch baseball.
43:39 --> 43:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that cut about every well, not every idea we had, but a handful of them.
43:45 --> 43:52 [SPEAKER_00]: And then I was going to say, can I also mention if you're listening to that and you think, oh, a baseball player doesn't watch baseball.
43:52 --> 43:54 [SPEAKER_00]: You would be surprised how many baseball players do not watch baseball.
43:55 --> 43:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I promise, like, there were a lot of decent portion of these guys, like, it's their job.
44:00 --> 44:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's it.
44:01 --> 44:02 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a job.
44:02 --> 44:03 [SPEAKER_00]: They're very good at it.
44:04 --> 44:11 [SPEAKER_00]: They'll work their butt off to be good at it, but at home, it's not like they're turning on MLB network at all.
44:13 --> 44:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would say a lot of them do.
44:15 --> 44:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say most of them do, but it's not like Josh and Taylor's the only player that doesn't watch baseball away from the field.
44:21 --> 44:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's right.
44:22 --> 44:22 [SPEAKER_00]: What were you gonna say?
44:23 --> 44:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, then you also asked if you thought he could name ten pairs of brothers that have ever played a major league baseball and doesn't even have to be with the same team.
44:31 --> 44:33 [SPEAKER_01]: And you said, do you think you could do something like that?
44:33 --> 44:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Because that's just naming names and it's naming people that you've played against.
44:36 --> 44:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And he goes, I think I can name two.
44:40 --> 44:44 [SPEAKER_01]: He goes, me and my brother, and then there was one other pair of brothers.
44:44 --> 44:45 [SPEAKER_00]: The Alomars.
44:46 --> 44:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right, because he played in Cleveland.
44:47 --> 44:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, well, I think that idea's cut to.
44:51 --> 44:51 [SPEAKER_01]: We ain't doing that.
44:52 --> 44:54 [SPEAKER_01]: So we did do a couple of things with them.
44:54 --> 44:56 [SPEAKER_01]: They will eventually be out on social media.
44:57 --> 45:02 [SPEAKER_01]: But just know, he very much lives up to the big grumper aura.
45:02 --> 45:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
45:03 --> 45:09 [SPEAKER_00]: But we, you know what, despite all that, we appreciate him being a mariner and the marriage should extend him as soon as possible.
45:09 --> 45:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
45:10 --> 45:12 [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe we can get him into baseball a while.
45:12 --> 45:13 [SPEAKER_00]: He'll be around us enough.
45:13 --> 45:14 [SPEAKER_00]: It's be like,
45:15 --> 45:19 [SPEAKER_00]: comes up to us one day and he's like, no, I was actually looking up the brothers.
45:20 --> 45:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Major League Baseball.
45:20 --> 45:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I like to give that a shot.
45:22 --> 45:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
45:22 --> 45:23 [SPEAKER_01]: That's great.
45:23 --> 45:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like don't let us twist this wrong way.
45:25 --> 45:26 [SPEAKER_01]: We're Josh Naylor fans.
45:26 --> 45:34 [SPEAKER_01]: We hope he's here in a Seattle uniform for the next however many years because they need a first baseman and he seems to fit this team in this ballpark seamlessly.
45:35 --> 45:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Sign me up.
45:36 --> 45:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
45:37 --> 45:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's get to our next subject.
45:38 --> 45:40 [SPEAKER_00]: This one caught me by surprise.
45:41 --> 45:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I did not think Vic was going to get activated so soon.
45:44 --> 45:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was a given that they were going to wait until September first to activate Victor Robless.
45:50 --> 45:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Get him as many advance as possible.
45:52 --> 45:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he got to fifty down in the minor leagues.
45:55 --> 45:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Unless I'm right.
45:57 --> 45:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that was fifty at bats that he got down there.
46:00 --> 46:04 [SPEAKER_00]: But he gets activated this week and great to have him back a little sooner than I thought.
46:04 --> 46:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Or were you surprised, too?
46:07 --> 46:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I was, but then when I thought more about it, it makes some sense, because to the very point that we talked about on our most recent podcast, where you were worried about the idea of him getting all these rehab abats in the minors, then having his rehab session and immediately having to serve the suspension go cold turkey for ten days.
46:26 --> 46:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And then come back and have it a face big league pitching.
46:28 --> 46:37 [SPEAKER_01]: So I actually think what the Mariners did here make some sense because they're trying to get him a few games against big leagueers back into the show, reaclimate himself a little bit.
46:37 --> 46:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And then if he has to take the ten days off or if his appeal works and he knocks it down to seven or eight.
46:43 --> 46:52 [SPEAKER_01]: It is less of an adjustment when he gets back off the suspension than having not seen any big league pitching in months on end and having to jump right back into it.
46:53 --> 46:59 [SPEAKER_01]: If I had to guess there was something there to activating him before the suspension and getting him big league at that.
47:01 --> 47:02 [SPEAKER_00]: That'll make a lot of sense.
47:03 --> 47:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Given the transaction of it and the corresponding transaction was demo getting deaffaed, I think it's fair to say at this point that the only reason that it feels like that demo was on the roster as long as he was, I think they might have just been waiting for Vic to get back because they thought that, hey, we need a right-handed hitting outfield or that's what we want demo replaced with because that's the only thing demo had left in them.
47:30 --> 47:32 [SPEAKER_00]: that they were just waiting for Robless to get back.
47:32 --> 47:34 [SPEAKER_00]: And I guess it worked out.
47:34 --> 47:35 [SPEAKER_00]: They surprised me with that.
47:35 --> 47:43 [SPEAKER_00]: They surprised me in twofold that they were willing to move on from dealing more, which they had given no indication of, and that they were going to activate Robless that soon.
47:43 --> 47:44 [SPEAKER_00]: But you know what?
47:44 --> 47:48 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy to have Robless back because he fits this lineup great and he's something they actually need.
47:48 --> 47:55 [SPEAKER_00]: He's speedy, he's energetic, makes a ton of contact, the best version of us we've seen is a very good part of this lineup.
47:56 --> 48:00 [SPEAKER_00]: It can help with their issue of being hot and cold or sometimes the lineup can get a little
48:01 --> 48:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Home run, centric, and that will leave them in cold spouts when they're not hitting home runs.
48:06 --> 48:09 [SPEAKER_00]: And we know that's not Victor Robless's game at all.
48:09 --> 48:11 [SPEAKER_00]: He looks to line balls in the gap and run.
48:12 --> 48:13 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's great.
48:13 --> 48:16 [SPEAKER_00]: But it did still kind of like surprise me on the two ends of that.
48:16 --> 48:19 [SPEAKER_00]: That was exactly what they were waiting for.
48:19 --> 48:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, didn't they say this was right about the timeline?
48:21 --> 48:24 [SPEAKER_01]: They thought he'd be back before the suspension.
48:24 --> 48:26 [SPEAKER_01]: They thought they were going to try to bring him back around this week in August.
48:27 --> 48:37 [SPEAKER_00]: But then we got the update that it seemed like he was going to, it was going to take into September for him to be even ready to get back into games at that point.
48:37 --> 48:44 [SPEAKER_00]: And then we got the update even later that is rehab was progressing so well that he got back in the games earlier than expected.
48:45 --> 48:50 [SPEAKER_01]: But again, when DePoto was on the Mariners broadcast, no, it was before that.
48:51 --> 48:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
48:51 --> 48:54 [SPEAKER_01]: It was some media session that DePoto did or some quote that he gave.
48:55 --> 49:00 [SPEAKER_01]: He said that the Mariners were targeting to bring roadless back around this very week.
49:01 --> 49:05 [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe it's not that far off from what their original timeline was.
49:05 --> 49:12 [SPEAKER_01]: They just changed their course a little bit where they opted a couple of days in advance to try to get them some big league of bats before he ends up getting the suspension and having a survey.
49:12 --> 49:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me see how many at bats he got to come on curious.
49:17 --> 49:20 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think this this might answer my question on
49:22 --> 49:40 [SPEAKER_00]: on what they're going to go was to ramp them up like it was another spring training and get the necessary baths I know he had thirty up he had thirty pances into coma thirty two so I think they were a little bit ahead of skit I think they were thinking about the suspension in this it would have been closer to September first if they gave him the full fifty played appearances into coma
49:42 --> 49:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's fair.
49:43 --> 49:44 [SPEAKER_00]: So him him.
49:45 --> 49:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Him getting a few reps against big leaders before he gets suspended and hey, hopefully his suspension gets cut in like half.
49:51 --> 49:52 [SPEAKER_00]: So it works out for him.
49:52 --> 49:56 [SPEAKER_00]: But he at least gets some of those reps against big leaders.
49:56 --> 49:59 [SPEAKER_00]: So he's not totally overwhelmed when he comes back.
49:59 --> 50:00 [SPEAKER_00]: It's great to have him back.
50:01 --> 50:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Would you like to say anything as a ulogy as Dylan Moore?
50:05 --> 50:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Dylan Moore's number one fan from twenty twenty through
50:11 --> 50:24 [SPEAKER_01]: twenty twenty four we'll see that five years stretch yeah i would just say two things similar what i said on social media the move was absolutely necessary and we've highlighted for the last few episodes every reason why
50:26 --> 50:29 [SPEAKER_01]: But you can also appreciate what he did over a long period of time here.
50:30 --> 50:32 [SPEAKER_01]: This was a guy that signed for almost no money when he was drafted.
50:32 --> 50:35 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners gave him a shot in twenty nineteen when they were rebuilding.
50:35 --> 50:36 [SPEAKER_01]: He'd never really been a big leader.
50:37 --> 50:40 [SPEAKER_01]: He made three errors in that second game of the year in twenty nineteen.
50:40 --> 50:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember it got highlighted a lot when he had that game.
50:44 --> 50:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And any had years where he was incredibly valuable to the team where he played such a huge role.
50:50 --> 50:54 [SPEAKER_01]: The members don't get to where they get to in twenty twenty two without everything Dillon Moore did.
50:54 --> 50:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Crush left these played everywhere in a year where there was some injuries.
50:58 --> 51:00 [SPEAKER_01]: He stepped up in a lot of different ways.
51:01 --> 51:03 [SPEAKER_01]: This was a guy that for a utility player.
51:04 --> 51:06 [SPEAKER_01]: held real value as a utility player for a long time.
51:07 --> 51:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think people should forget that.
51:09 --> 51:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, also understanding that here in August of twenty twenty five, it was time to just part ways move on and put your best roster on the field.
51:16 --> 51:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So I would say the Mariners made the right move.
51:19 --> 51:27 [SPEAKER_01]: They needed to move on and they did, but you can also appreciate everything he did throughout his stretch with the Mariners because it is hard to find a great consistent utility player.
51:27 --> 51:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And for a long time, he was that.
51:30 --> 51:30 [UNKNOWN]: God.
51:31 --> 51:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Twinge my heart, Lion.
51:33 --> 51:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good.
51:35 --> 51:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad to feel the emotion stirring within you.
51:39 --> 51:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I was also just ready to see the plug pulled on this.
51:44 --> 51:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, had been moved on from dealing more as of many of us had for multiple months now.
51:49 --> 51:57 [SPEAKER_00]: So you had you had time to prepare your speech knowing that it was coming and that, you know, the Mariners would be better off in this case.
51:57 --> 51:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
51:58 --> 51:59 [SPEAKER_00]: So it
52:00 --> 52:09 [SPEAKER_00]: With this decision, I do think, so they make the proclamation that, all right, we just needed to right-handed outfielder that we wanted to swap Demo with.
52:10 --> 52:13 [SPEAKER_00]: What happens do we think when Vic gets suspended?
52:13 --> 52:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think they will do any more shoveling?
52:14 --> 52:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Because now with Demo gone, as things shuffled out today, we saw late in the game that the backup shortstop is now coal-young, and the backup third baseman is, get this.
52:27 --> 52:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Donovan Solano.
52:29 --> 52:32 [SPEAKER_00]: So, that doesn't really sound right.
52:34 --> 52:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Will they do anything else to address that?
52:36 --> 52:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Perhaps one's Vic gets suspended and they have to use their roster a little bit more effectively.
52:43 --> 52:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I think so, because Divish tweeted here on Sunday that he expects another roster move is coming once the robelay suspension goes down.
52:51 --> 52:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you want Divish as exact words on it,
52:54 --> 53:00 [SPEAKER_01]: He tweeted that yes, with Demo gone, Dan Wilson said what you just said, Cole Young's a short, Solano's at third is the two backups when they need it.
53:01 --> 53:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Then, Divis also says in the same tweet, I would expect another roster move when Robles has to start serving its suspension and the Mariners have to play a man down.
53:09 --> 53:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Divis isn't tweeting that out if he doesn't have some level of information behind that.
53:13 --> 53:16 [SPEAKER_01]: So when he says that, I would expect a roster move is coming.
53:17 --> 53:18 [SPEAKER_01]: And what that roster move feels like?
53:20 --> 53:22 [SPEAKER_01]: One, it has to be on the offensive side of the ball, obviously.
53:23 --> 53:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And number two, only so many guys can get either option or DFA on the current offensive side of the ball.
53:30 --> 53:32 [SPEAKER_01]: If a roster move would have been, were to be made.
53:32 --> 53:40 [SPEAKER_01]: So what that says to me is they just moved on from Dillon Moore, and they feel like they're pretty close to finally cutting ties with Donovan Solano, too.
53:40 --> 53:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Because if they need to back up their basement,
53:43 --> 53:44 [SPEAKER_01]: You've got real options in the minors.
53:44 --> 53:48 [SPEAKER_01]: It could be any of Ben Williams and Leo Reeves or Miles MasterBony.
53:49 --> 53:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And if I had to pick, I would assume Master is going to be the guy because he can also play the outfield in a pinch too.
53:56 --> 54:02 [SPEAKER_01]: So when Robles starts serving his suspension, I would assume that is who you'll see get called up.
54:02 --> 54:05 [SPEAKER_01]: You'll see MasterBony for Solano.
54:06 --> 54:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And then once Victor comes back, and the Mariners get an additional spot on the roster, then you could also bring back Rivas or Williamson in addition to already having Mastron rubbleies back on the roster.
54:18 --> 54:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm with you on that.
54:20 --> 54:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Donovan Sloan with third base does not look right.
54:22 --> 54:27 [SPEAKER_00]: They also hasn't played third base all season long, so I see him out there, Mike.
54:28 --> 54:29 [SPEAKER_00]: What are they doing?
54:30 --> 54:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Why is he out there?
54:31 --> 54:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Has he not played an inning there this year?
54:33 --> 54:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Not one.
54:33 --> 54:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I hasn't played a little second base.
54:37 --> 54:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's look this up.
54:38 --> 54:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought he played third base at some point this year.
54:41 --> 54:43 [SPEAKER_00]: He has played in his career.
54:43 --> 54:44 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I know that.
54:44 --> 54:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought he played at some point this year, some third base.
54:47 --> 54:48 [SPEAKER_01]: But hang on, we're gonna check.
54:49 --> 54:52 [SPEAKER_01]: This is the value of sitting and having baseball reference as a tool.
54:53 --> 54:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see.
54:54 --> 54:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Donovan Solano, yes, okay, I was right.
54:56 --> 54:58 [SPEAKER_01]: He has played two innings at third base this year.
54:59 --> 54:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, great.
55:00 --> 55:01 [SPEAKER_00]: That makes me feel so good.
55:02 --> 55:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I knew it wasn't zero.
55:03 --> 55:04 [SPEAKER_01]: That didn't sound right.
55:04 --> 55:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, at some point this year, they plugged him in at third base.
55:08 --> 55:11 [SPEAKER_00]: And the final thirty-plus games of the season he should not be your third baseman.
55:14 --> 55:17 [SPEAKER_00]: One's big goes on that gets suspended.
55:17 --> 55:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think master should be up.
55:19 --> 55:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you have a preference of Leo or Ben?
55:21 --> 55:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Because by the way, Ben continues to keep hitting.
55:24 --> 55:26 [SPEAKER_00]: He's hit a little bit more here on Sunday.
55:27 --> 55:35 [SPEAKER_00]: You can options would be Ben and Ben's only a third baseman Leo plays all over the place master plays all over the place and in the outfield.
55:35 --> 55:43 [SPEAKER_00]: I think master was staying no matter what because it gives you the option for an extra left handed out field or if you so so surely need it
55:45 --> 55:46 [SPEAKER_00]: But which one of these other guys?
55:46 --> 56:00 [SPEAKER_01]: The question here becomes by the middle of September of Williamson Robles, sorry, of Williamson MasterBony and Rivas, who is the odd man out that's not there or who are the two that are going to be on the roster?
56:01 --> 56:05 [SPEAKER_01]: You feel like MasterBony is a lock right because he's been here all year and can play out field.
56:06 --> 56:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it's Leo.
56:08 --> 56:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Given that Leo, when he was up here at the big league level last time, he's kind of in the doghouse.
56:13 --> 56:14 [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't play him.
56:14 --> 56:16 [SPEAKER_00]: They kind of treat him like Solano.
56:17 --> 56:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really get why either, because he had a one, twelve OPS plus when he was here, and he's rushing it down into coma.
56:25 --> 56:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say that you are right, that the odd man out is likely to be Leo Rivas, because he cannot play the outfield, and because he hasn't been in the big league since the end of May.
56:34 --> 56:45 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, if I had to guess, you would see MasterBony get called up when Roblese starts serving the suspension, and as the corresponding move, they would DFA Solano, because they have to play a man down, Victor will eventually come back,
56:46 --> 56:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the extra guy added in September would be Ben Williamson and the Mariners at that point would say, Hey, he's had enough played appearances down to coma.
56:52 --> 56:54 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to give him another shot.
56:54 --> 56:58 [SPEAKER_01]: We also would like to have him as a resource and a defensive replacement late in the year.
56:59 --> 57:02 [SPEAKER_00]: And you wouldn't need another utility guy because think of it.
57:02 --> 57:09 [SPEAKER_00]: You already have five outfielders because you have Rayleigh who can play in the outfield alongside Robless, Ken Zone, Julio and in a Rosarena.
57:10 --> 57:32 [SPEAKER_00]: You have your backup shortstop and master bony back up second basement and master bony there would be less of a neat less of a need for Leo as opposed to if they Act as they have acted all season long and just call up Ben and Ben's a backup third baseman slash in field or if you need it I think he really would only play at third and you'd play someone else somewhere else if you had to
57:33 --> 57:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that would make the most sense.
57:35 --> 57:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Even though Leo, Leo's earned some big league time.
57:38 --> 57:40 [SPEAKER_00]: He is better than the PCL.
57:41 --> 57:42 [SPEAKER_00]: He's destroyed the PCL this year.
57:43 --> 57:45 [SPEAKER_00]: But unfortunately, I don't know where exactly he fits in.
57:47 --> 57:48 [SPEAKER_01]: It'll be interesting.
57:48 --> 57:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be very interested to see what moves they may come September and how they maneuver all of this.
57:54 --> 57:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Or whenever Victor gets a suspension.
57:56 --> 58:02 [SPEAKER_01]: But you are right, the likelihood is they will go with the guys that they've been familiar with for most of the year.
58:02 --> 58:06 [SPEAKER_01]: And for the majority of the year, you have seen Ben Williams and Anne Miles, MasterBony in the Big Legs.
58:06 --> 58:13 [SPEAKER_01]: So logically sent, like, and yet logically, best way to put it, it would probably be those two.
58:14 --> 58:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Can we highlight one more thing before we wrap up?
58:17 --> 58:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think we should because it could be who gets added as the extra pitcher in September.
58:23 --> 58:25 [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about Emerson Hancock last episode.
58:26 --> 58:37 [SPEAKER_00]: He had another appearance out of the bullpen and he hit ninety nine miles an hour and he struck out a dude on OKC today on a nasty change out.
58:37 --> 58:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll just speak for the most both of us, Lyle.
58:40 --> 58:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Emerson Hancock for Carlos Vargas.
58:44 --> 58:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've had enough of watching him pitch and relief.
58:47 --> 58:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Even with the big lead today, I mean he hits the batter, he's got no feel of the strike zone.
58:54 --> 58:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Tell me to you TJ and everybody listening to this and watching this.
58:59 --> 59:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Look me in the eye and tell me you did not have thoughts creep into your head when it was eleven three.
59:05 --> 59:06 [SPEAKER_01]: The bases were loaded.
59:07 --> 59:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Tell me thoughts didn't creep into your head about a grand slam and this being
59:11 --> 59:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Mariners Royals all over again from twenty twenty two Am I bad fan to admit my TV crashed and I didn't actually watch that inning Oh, you turned it off?
59:24 --> 59:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Not not not intentionally.
59:26 --> 59:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was gonna keep it on the background with my TV did crash.
59:29 --> 59:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh But what in a scenario that you just laid out.
59:34 --> 59:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
59:36 --> 59:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
59:37 --> 59:40 [SPEAKER_01]: He's probably not going to be the guy that would be the odd man out anyway.
59:41 --> 59:42 [SPEAKER_01]: For Emerson Hancock.
59:42 --> 59:45 [SPEAKER_00]: It was right after the DFA him and God forbid Lyle.
59:46 --> 59:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, the Mariners are on a DFA role right now.
59:48 --> 59:51 [SPEAKER_00]: But yes, they might DFA two in fielders in a week.
59:51 --> 59:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say it might be Demo and then Solano and you could say the DFA rowdy is now opiasing nine hundred in Texas.
59:58 --> 59:59 [SPEAKER_01]: That's really fun.
59:59 --> 01:00:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Really interesting.
01:00:02 --> 01:00:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway,
01:00:04 --> 01:00:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who the move is going to be when Emerson Hancock's ready, but this feels like it's going to happen.
01:00:11 --> 01:00:14 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners tried to put some breaks on it and say we're testing it out.
01:00:14 --> 01:00:16 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to see what happens.
01:00:16 --> 01:00:17 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if he responds well.
01:00:17 --> 01:00:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And yes, him bouncing back well and responding to these outings is going to be a key.
01:00:22 --> 01:00:25 [SPEAKER_01]: But unless he's really getting sore and not feeling right after these outings,
01:00:26 --> 01:00:28 [SPEAKER_01]: How could he not be here in September?
01:00:28 --> 01:00:30 [SPEAKER_01]: You're throwing ninety-nine and wiping people out with that change up.
01:00:31 --> 01:00:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Given what the back half of the bullpen looks like, give me ever some handcock all day long.
01:00:36 --> 01:00:40 [SPEAKER_00]: And Davis was tweeting as if he felt like he's coming up.
01:00:40 --> 01:00:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:00:41 --> 01:00:45 [SPEAKER_00]: And Davis just words, it's like, yeah, I think they'll see a few more outings and then make a decision.
01:00:46 --> 01:00:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Because as we mentioned when he did move to the bullpen in the first time, they didn't move this him to the bullpen for him to conserve his innings.
01:00:53 --> 01:00:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Emerson has an innings limit this year.
01:00:56 --> 01:01:02 [SPEAKER_00]: They moved him to the bullpen to put him in the big league bullpen and have him throw ninety nine miles an hour to big leagueers.
01:01:02 --> 01:01:09 [SPEAKER_00]: How the fastball that doesn't play is while at ninety four play up at ninety nine and uses change up in a devastating fashion.
01:01:09 --> 01:01:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I know he hasn't been great this year, but you know there's a a reliever out there who had been historically good with a fastball change of combination.
01:01:17 --> 01:01:18 [SPEAKER_00]: It's name's Devin Williams.
01:01:19 --> 01:01:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he had the lowest ERA among all relievers for four consecutive seasons combined.
01:01:25 --> 01:01:25 [SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty good.
01:01:26 --> 01:01:27 [SPEAKER_01]: That's most relievers, their failed starters.
01:01:28 --> 01:01:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Wade Davis is a great example, failed starter, turn reliever, Edwin Diaz, starter that they didn't see enough out of the mariners that being in the miners, turn them reliever, got a hundred million dollar contract.
01:01:38 --> 01:01:39 [SPEAKER_01]: This is what happens.
01:01:39 --> 01:01:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'm not saying Emerson Hancock is going to quite do that, but I mean, I hope he does.
01:01:44 --> 01:01:47 [SPEAKER_01]: That'd be awesome if he did and he turns himself into a wipeout bullpen arm.
01:01:48 --> 01:01:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Help, you want to use even more?
01:01:49 --> 01:01:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say if you told him he's making a hundred million dollars as a reliever, yeah, I think he'd be a reliever.
01:01:53 --> 01:01:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, hell, let's use even a more recent example in that, Matt Brash failed starter, dominant reliever.
01:01:58 --> 01:01:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:01:59 --> 01:02:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying Emerson Hancock's gonna do that, but you see, ninety-nine with a change up that's getting people biting into coma.
01:02:07 --> 01:02:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I can buy all the way in on this.
01:02:09 --> 01:02:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, especially given what the other side of the bullpen looks like when you get past Muno's, Brash, Gabe's fire.
01:02:17 --> 01:02:18 [SPEAKER_00]: It's exciting.
01:02:18 --> 01:02:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I love that for him.
01:02:20 --> 01:02:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Same.
01:02:20 --> 01:02:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Very exciting.
01:02:21 --> 01:02:22 [SPEAKER_01]: They could use it.
01:02:22 --> 01:02:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope it works.
01:02:24 --> 01:02:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And I would be pretty surprised at this point if he is not here unless he's really not feeling well after some of these outings.
01:02:30 --> 01:02:32 [SPEAKER_00]: The stuff, the stuff's there.
01:02:32 --> 01:02:40 [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have all of his college stuff, but him as a reliever is as close to his college repertoire as we've ever seen.
01:02:41 --> 01:02:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Good.
01:02:41 --> 01:02:42 [SPEAKER_00]: In the big leagues.
01:02:42 --> 01:02:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Good.
01:02:43 --> 01:02:43 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's our guy.
01:02:44 --> 01:02:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Come out and absolutely dominate Emerson, push like push this team into the playoffs and anchor him in the bullpen down the stretch.
01:02:51 --> 01:02:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm, I'm a hundred percent down for that.
01:02:54 --> 01:02:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
01:02:55 --> 01:02:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, so, you know, we're rooting for our guy, too.
01:02:57 --> 01:02:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:02:57 --> 01:03:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Want him, want him up here at the big league level and want him doing well.
01:03:02 --> 01:03:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Also, Emerson, your threshold is strike out more than five guys per nine in the bullpen, which is not very hard.
01:03:07 --> 01:03:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's the number because that's what Carlos Vargas is currently doing.
01:03:10 --> 01:03:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I was about to ask you.
01:03:12 --> 01:03:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's the reference point of that.
01:03:14 --> 01:03:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right.
01:03:14 --> 01:03:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:03:16 --> 01:03:18 [SPEAKER_01]: How do you throw a hundred and strike out five per nine?
01:03:21 --> 01:03:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a good question.
01:03:22 --> 01:03:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have an answer for you.
01:03:24 --> 01:03:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I did, I tell you.
01:03:25 --> 01:03:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I know.
01:03:26 --> 01:03:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go, Emerson.
01:03:28 --> 01:03:29 [SPEAKER_01]: That's all in the show.
01:03:29 --> 01:03:31 [SPEAKER_01]: But good series went for the Mariners.
01:03:32 --> 01:03:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see him take advantage against the Padres.
01:03:33 --> 01:03:37 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a series they're going to need before they go back out on the road on a very long road trip.
01:03:37 --> 01:03:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully they find a way to grab two here this week against the pods.
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01:04:34 --> 01:04:34 [SPEAKER_01]: That's TJ.
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