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00:00 --> 00:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to episode number two eighty eight of the Marine Lair podcast.
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01:17 --> 01:26 [SPEAKER_02]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just baseball podcast network recording on Thursday evening August, twenty eight.
01:27 --> 01:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking about this on the off day, while there's been some more discussion on some other platforms, including Brock and salt this this morning on Thursday and some other mornings as well.
01:38 --> 01:41 [SPEAKER_02]: What do we think the approval rating is on our better cup take?
01:44 --> 01:47 [SPEAKER_01]: split, but you know what, I got a lot of people on our side.
01:48 --> 01:50 [SPEAKER_01]: So I should say we got a lot of people on our side.
01:50 --> 01:52 [SPEAKER_01]: So I will not be wavering from it.
01:52 --> 01:54 [SPEAKER_01]: You will not be wavering from it.
01:54 --> 01:55 [SPEAKER_01]: This podcast will not be wavering from it.
01:56 --> 01:57 [SPEAKER_01]: One track matters.
01:58 --> 02:00 [SPEAKER_02]: And we're not at an island, which is good.
02:00 --> 02:23 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I had a lot of people on Brock and Soak that were on my side about it because Soak was saying I'm anti-fun and we had a bunch of people in our comments trying to call us Karen's but then I saw a lot of people on the text line for for Brock and Soak that we're saying the same thing I was saying this is dumb Eddie Vetter wasn't even a Mariners fan he wasn't even a Padre fan the guy is a Cub's fan
02:24 --> 02:27 [SPEAKER_01]: paired with the fact that you are giving out a trophy for regular season wins.
02:28 --> 02:40 [SPEAKER_01]: And oh, you know, we didn't even talk about on Wednesday's podcast because we saw the news about it after we recorded, they're giving out an MVP of the Vetter Cup, which went to Cal Rally.
02:41 --> 02:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Cal Rally doesn't need the MVP anymore.
02:45 --> 02:46 [SPEAKER_01]: He's the Vetter Cup MVP.
02:47 --> 02:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
02:48 --> 02:50 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you think that's on his mantle?
02:50 --> 02:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know what we should do.
02:53 --> 03:04 [SPEAKER_01]: We should really pull apart my take care with the NVP, which if anybody remembers that playoff football game on Nickelodeon a few years ago when the bears lost, pardon my take got everybody together since it was a fan boat.
03:04 --> 03:18 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like everybody vote for Mitch Tribisky to be the NVP despite the bears losing this game and everybody got in on the joke voted for him and he actually got the trophy and the Nickelodeon broadcast actually had to go into a losing locker room and present it to us.
03:19 --> 03:20 [SPEAKER_01]: What did we all play off game?
03:21 --> 03:24 [SPEAKER_01]: What did we all combine together to vote for Dylan Moore?
03:26 --> 03:27 [SPEAKER_02]: That would be pretty funny.
03:27 --> 03:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Where do we think he is?
03:29 --> 03:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm in a plane to go find him.
03:31 --> 03:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you didn't see.
03:32 --> 03:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Send a deal with the Rangers.
03:33 --> 03:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wait.
03:34 --> 03:35 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I did see that.
03:35 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_02]: So they'd have to fly to Arlington.
03:37 --> 03:43 [SPEAKER_02]: And then as Routy to Les is giving Demo a hug from behind, hand the trophy to Dylan Moore.
03:44 --> 03:44 [SPEAKER_01]: And Sam Haggerty.
03:45 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And Sam Agree.
03:46 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
03:47 --> 03:49 [SPEAKER_02]: And Brett Boone might be there for the shits and gigs.
03:50 --> 03:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
03:52 --> 04:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Or if you want to pick somebody that's on the team, considering where our allegiance is lying on this podcast, we could get everybody together to give it to Logan Evans, considering the man did throw what's seven shot out against the podries in that series?
04:04 --> 04:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm down.
04:05 --> 04:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Give a damn.
04:06 --> 04:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
04:07 --> 04:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
04:08 --> 04:09 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
04:09 --> 04:16 [SPEAKER_01]: If the people want to vote for Logan Evans to win the Vetter Cup MVP, I will sit here and declare the Vetter Cup now relevant.
04:17 --> 04:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Congratulations, Logan.
04:19 --> 04:23 [SPEAKER_02]: You are the Vetter Cup MVP of the Marine Lair podcast.
04:23 --> 04:24 [SPEAKER_02]: It's facts.
04:24 --> 04:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Congratulations.
04:26 --> 04:27 [SPEAKER_02]: What a great award.
04:27 --> 04:28 [SPEAKER_02]: It is.
04:28 --> 04:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I was our trophy.
04:32 --> 04:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh wait, no, we don't have one because we got to keep consistent with our trophy stance.
04:37 --> 04:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, only one matters.
04:39 --> 04:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Only a name.
04:40 --> 04:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
04:41 --> 04:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Only a name will Logan have the better cup MVP trophy.
04:46 --> 04:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I was happy to see that there were people on our side about this.
04:49 --> 04:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Was there a, was there a, like I know they had the team trophy.
04:53 --> 04:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Did they have the trophy?
04:55 --> 04:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Do they have a trophy for the individual MVP of the better cup?
05:00 --> 05:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
05:00 --> 05:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, actually.
05:03 --> 05:05 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll cowheld up the guitar, right?
05:06 --> 05:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He did, but that was the team's trophy.
05:14 --> 05:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and we didn't acknowledge this last time, and I'll say, like the charity aspect of this is always very good.
05:19 --> 05:22 [SPEAKER_02]: That was never in question for some people mentioning that part.
05:23 --> 05:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's for charity.
05:24 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_02]: The charity's great.
05:25 --> 05:31 [SPEAKER_02]: You could do all the charity and all the better cut branding and stuff like we talked about on Wednesday's episode without the trophy.
05:32 --> 05:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought, you know, it would be a cool idea.
05:33 --> 05:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd have no problem with this.
05:35 --> 05:43 [SPEAKER_02]: You make like an Eddie better themed trophy every single year and you auction it off to a fan or something and the proceeds go to charity.
05:43 --> 05:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't that sound good?
05:45 --> 05:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise like that beautiful guitar is just going to be sitting somewhere.
05:50 --> 05:50 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like all right.
05:52 --> 05:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Our comments are going to be great again on this episode.
05:55 --> 05:59 [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be how did you guys spend another six minutes starting the episode again bitching about the better.
06:02 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to Mariners baseball everybody.
06:04 --> 06:05 [SPEAKER_01]: This is our life.
06:06 --> 06:07 [SPEAKER_01]: TJ is right.
06:07 --> 06:15 [SPEAKER_01]: If this was just a charity thing and fans wanted to run with this and fans wanted to make merch about it and fans wanted to talk about it, that'd be totally fine.
06:16 --> 06:18 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why I never had an issue with the whole Maple Grove thing.
06:19 --> 06:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was really cool because that was a fan idea.
06:21 --> 06:22 [SPEAKER_01]: It was fans that started that.
06:22 --> 06:24 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's where you and Salk are different on that.
06:25 --> 06:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Salk hates the Maple Grove.
06:26 --> 06:29 [SPEAKER_01]: But when you are
06:30 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_01]: like perating about it on social media via major league baseball, making these ridiculous graphics about how you won the better cup.
06:37 --> 06:38 [SPEAKER_01]: That's where you lose me.
06:38 --> 06:42 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'd like to hear about how the Mariners won important games against the pod rays and leave it at that.
06:42 --> 06:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Not the better cup, trophy.
06:44 --> 06:45 [SPEAKER_02]: It's mostly the trophy.
06:46 --> 06:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
06:46 --> 06:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't get over the trophy.
06:47 --> 06:48 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what makes it bad.
06:48 --> 06:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And they had a whole showing of it on the field and all these media people are taking pictures.
06:53 --> 06:55 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, what?
06:56 --> 06:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, so TJ made a joke the other day.
07:00 --> 07:01 [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't quite get to it.
07:01 --> 07:05 [SPEAKER_01]: But TJ did want to ask a couple of the players in passing.
07:06 --> 07:09 [SPEAKER_01]: So how do you feel about the better cup trophy?
07:11 --> 07:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe we did get to ask him.
07:13 --> 07:16 [SPEAKER_02]: And now it's going to be off their minds by the time they get back.
07:16 --> 07:19 [SPEAKER_02]: We had a chance to ask Padre's two and we didn't.
07:19 --> 07:21 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like imagine going up to Mani Machado.
07:21 --> 07:24 [SPEAKER_02]: He's been a Padre for six years.
07:25 --> 07:39 [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's a nineteen twenty twenty one twenty two twenty three twenty seven-year seven-year seven-year Padre, Mani Machado longer ten year than I think every single Seattle mayor, mayor, and walk up to Mani, who we did get on our other account, Bolton Banner, by the way.
07:39 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll have that content coming out sometime soon, I would imagine.
07:43 --> 07:44 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's Mani.
07:44 --> 07:44 [SPEAKER_02]: So, uh...
07:46 --> 07:47 [SPEAKER_01]: hype for the better cut.
07:48 --> 07:56 [SPEAKER_01]: You, you wanted to make a joke and ask Jake Kronenworth about it and you said, not on the mic, but you're like, so are you guys feeling about losing the better cup?
07:56 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_02]: We were actually chopping it up with Kronenworth for a little while.
07:59 --> 08:02 [SPEAKER_02]: So it like could have come up in discussion a little bit.
08:02 --> 08:03 [SPEAKER_02]: These are many had to run inside.
08:03 --> 08:07 [SPEAKER_02]: So that wasn't as much of a sit there and shit chap.
08:07 --> 08:08 [SPEAKER_02]: But Kronenworth was super cool, by the way.
08:08 --> 08:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it was like, all right, this would have been a cool opportunity to be like, literally, as he was walking away, that was going to be my next question.
08:15 --> 08:18 [SPEAKER_02]: It was going to be last question, Jake.
08:19 --> 08:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you guys care about the better cut?
08:21 --> 08:23 [SPEAKER_01]: The answer was going to be no.
08:24 --> 08:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll save you the time and Jake Cronowords time and answer for you.
08:27 --> 08:27 [SPEAKER_01]: The answer is no.
08:29 --> 08:32 [SPEAKER_02]: There's some good aspects of it, but I just can't get over the trophy.
08:33 --> 08:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't do it.
08:34 --> 08:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, any better is a cubs fan.
08:36 --> 08:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even know that part because I barely know who any better is.
08:39 --> 08:42 [SPEAKER_01]: But once I learned that, I was like, I'm done.
08:43 --> 08:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I was already gone to begin with, but I'm done.
08:46 --> 08:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Shout out, hey, but you know what?
08:47 --> 08:49 [SPEAKER_01]: And also here's a shout out Jake Cronorth.
08:49 --> 08:51 [SPEAKER_01]: He is apparently a bullpen man or fan.
08:51 --> 08:52 [SPEAKER_01]: So shout out to him.
08:52 --> 08:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Shout out Jake Cronorth.
08:53 --> 08:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, if he needs a mariner's podcast, we have him covered too.
08:56 --> 08:56 [SPEAKER_01]: It's true.
08:57 --> 08:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Shout out, well, shout out Jake Wilson, another bullpen man or fan.
09:00 --> 09:00 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that's cool.
09:01 --> 09:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Those are those are two awesome guys we met this last week.
09:03 --> 09:06 [SPEAKER_02]: So super super cool to see our work get recognized like that.
09:06 --> 09:09 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I think that's enough on the better cup.
09:09 --> 09:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise, I'll think people might send us like a season to sit on the better.
09:13 --> 09:15 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been another nine minutes on this again.
09:17 --> 09:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about something actually productive.
09:19 --> 09:20 [SPEAKER_01]: How do we talk about Gino?
09:21 --> 09:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was cooked.
09:24 --> 09:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of social media discourse, this is why you have to let things play out.
09:28 --> 09:40 [SPEAKER_01]: When you trade for a guy that's hit nearly forty homers at the trade deadline and he has his first like true cold, ten, twelve, fifteen game stretch of the year, the reaction should not ever be.
09:41 --> 09:42 [SPEAKER_01]: This was a mistake.
09:42 --> 09:47 [SPEAKER_01]: because now over Gino's last fifteen games he's opsing near nine hundred.
09:48 --> 09:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he's all right you guys.
09:51 --> 09:53 [SPEAKER_02]: I remember the first week of the genome trade.
09:54 --> 09:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I did read a tweet being like, by the way, Tyler Locklears out producing Gino.
10:00 --> 10:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Just saying.
10:02 --> 10:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Hold in my hands up, Tyler Lockler has been very productive.
10:05 --> 10:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, since that point now with the last homestand, Gino is easily outpacing Tyler Lockler.
10:12 --> 10:18 [SPEAKER_02]: For those of you worried about trading Tyler Lockler away, I think Gino's doing just fine now.
10:19 --> 10:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Listen to this homestand or listen to since the first homestand that Gino
10:24 --> 10:43 [SPEAKER_02]: played here in Seattle where he was awful yet like a thirty seven percent strike out rate is WRC plus was negative only hit one home run since that point is walking over ten percent of the time he's got a one sixty one WRC plus he's hit five home runs this man is now actually tracking for fifty home runs when he was quote really cold during that stretch
10:44 --> 10:49 [SPEAKER_02]: I raise an eyebrow, wondering if you'd be able to find it back enough to get to fifty home runs.
10:49 --> 10:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Now I feel like he's getting to fifty home runs, and that the mariners are going to be the second team ever to have two fifty home or players.
10:56 --> 10:57 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what I feel pretty good about.
10:57 --> 11:00 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was going to quiz you on this, but it sounds like you already know the answer.
11:00 --> 11:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I know the answer.
11:01 --> 11:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll let our listeners sit and think about it here for a minute if you just want to start up in your head.
11:06 --> 11:09 [SPEAKER_01]: If Geno and Cal both get to fifty homers and Cal's obviously already there,
11:10 --> 11:15 [SPEAKER_01]: They would be the second duo on the same team to each combined for fifty homers in a year.
11:16 --> 11:22 [SPEAKER_01]: The only other duo to do that was, nineteen sixty one, Roger Maris and Mickey Mantle.
11:23 --> 11:23 [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
11:24 --> 11:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Now it's a little famous season.
11:26 --> 11:27 [SPEAKER_01]: What's that?
11:27 --> 11:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I said, is that a famous season?
11:28 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, a little bit considering Roger Maris hit sixty one.
11:34 --> 11:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and Mickey Mantle set the switch hitting home run record two records set by the way.
11:40 --> 11:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Could you imagine Calbreak's both of those?
11:43 --> 11:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Both set in one year, and one player breaks both of them in twenty five.
11:47 --> 11:48 [SPEAKER_01]: That'd be nuts.
11:48 --> 11:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Yankees have no reason ever talk shit about the Mariners ever again.
11:51 --> 11:52 [SPEAKER_02]: We own your records.
11:54 --> 11:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Think about this dog.
11:55 --> 12:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Nineteen sixty one sparked the eventual toxicity of Roger Maris Jr.
12:02 --> 12:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately.
12:03 --> 12:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Very, very.
12:04 --> 12:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't have had to block him if nineteen sixty one never existed.
12:09 --> 12:13 [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, Tyler Locklear is not played very well in Arizona.
12:13 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_02]: He's got a fifty-four WRC+.
12:14 --> 12:21 [SPEAKER_01]: You've got a lot of time, but yes, if you're talking about what has happened and what the production looks like since the trade, yeah.
12:21 --> 12:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Within the first three days, somebody notable on Mariners Twitter tweeted out, this might have been a mistake.
12:27 --> 12:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I think objectively the best move of the deadline trading for the best bat at the deadline, and someone's still going to be mad about it.
12:40 --> 12:41 [SPEAKER_01]: It really is a cesspool.
12:42 --> 12:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Now I will say this really quick note on the teammates that have fifty home runs.
12:49 --> 12:54 [SPEAKER_01]: This one would be a little bit different because obviously the majority of genos home runs are not going to be hit in Seattle this year.
12:55 --> 13:00 [SPEAKER_01]: But to only be the second pair of teammates to have that record is still crazy.
13:01 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how they qualify that record.
13:03 --> 13:04 [SPEAKER_02]: I still give it to them.
13:05 --> 13:06 [SPEAKER_02]: That's fine.
13:06 --> 13:06 [SPEAKER_02]: I would do.
13:07 --> 13:09 [SPEAKER_02]: And he still hit all the home runs.
13:10 --> 13:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just the Mariners have the opportunity of trading.
13:14 --> 13:15 [SPEAKER_02]: That was before free agency wasn't it.
13:15 --> 13:17 [SPEAKER_02]: When did free agency start?
13:19 --> 13:20 [SPEAKER_02]: In nineteen sixty one.
13:22 --> 13:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, when did free at nineteen seventy two is when free agency started majorly baseball.
13:27 --> 13:29 [SPEAKER_02]: So like the players couldn't even leave teams.
13:31 --> 13:33 [SPEAKER_02]: back then, unless they were traded like Babe Ruth.
13:33 --> 13:34 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
13:35 --> 13:40 [SPEAKER_02]: So I guess there was a little bit less of an opportunity in that sense to do anything.
13:41 --> 13:49 [SPEAKER_02]: But genome and just to have that record in the Seattle record books in this ballpark this year, that's pretty amazing.
13:49 --> 13:51 [SPEAKER_02]: And you know what else is really good about this?
13:51 --> 13:56 [SPEAKER_02]: genome did it at the exact time when his other teammates were struggling.
13:56 --> 14:03 [SPEAKER_02]: We were praising Cole Young a bunch and he deserves a lot of praise for what he's done since he's come up.
14:04 --> 14:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Over that same stretch, Cole Young has a WRC plus in the thirties that Gino has a one sixty one.
14:10 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Randy Rosarina has a forty two WRC plus.
14:13 --> 14:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Josh Naylor has a seventy five and JP Crawford has a seventy nine.
14:17 --> 14:19 [SPEAKER_02]: That's about half of your lineup, just not producing at all.
14:21 --> 14:22 [SPEAKER_02]: They were producing when Gino was cold.
14:23 --> 14:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Now when they're cold, Gino is going to step in and produce as well.
14:26 --> 14:27 [SPEAKER_02]: This is why you build a deep lineup.
14:28 --> 14:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Deep lineup allows you to still be a good offensive team despite half your lineup just kind of shrugging and not doing much in an incult streak.
14:36 --> 14:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Because when you have good players that will inevitably struggle throughout periods of the year, you have other guys that can pick them up at the same time, like you're saying.
14:45 --> 14:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Cole Young especially, when you're a first-year player and a really good prospect that's still gonna make some adjustments in the big leagues, we saw how he was for a while, and then okay, a ten-fifteen game for you with a little cold.
14:55 --> 14:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Even Randy Rosarina, who we know streaky.
14:57 --> 15:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, he was really hot, and then he had a couple of games where he was cold.
15:00 --> 15:06 [SPEAKER_01]: But when you have Gino who picks him up, and Cal who picks him up, and Julio who picks him up, the Julio's home stand was just okay.
15:07 --> 15:11 [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't terrible by any means, but he didn't have any extra base hits in the six games at home.
15:12 --> 15:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Regardless, not the point.
15:14 --> 15:16 [SPEAKER_01]: because Julio's been had a really good second half.
15:17 --> 15:31 [SPEAKER_01]: This is why to your point, you build lineups like this, because you can be productive at all points of time when certain players are hot and certain players can carry an offense for ten, twelve, fifteen game stretchers, and then somebody also pick it up.
15:32 --> 15:40 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like the lineup they basically rolled out at the start of the year, which is the whole Julio problem to begin with, where all this ridiculous pressure is put on them to carry the team, and when he's not doing that,
15:41 --> 15:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, then once you get past Julio, you have.
15:44 --> 15:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Routy Toledze, and Donovan Solano, and Dylan Moore, and nine hundred OPS Routy Toledze to you, Lyle.
15:51 --> 15:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my bad, I forgot.
15:51 --> 15:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Did he do that with Seattle?
15:53 --> 15:54 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, he did.
15:54 --> 15:54 [SPEAKER_02]: He did not.
15:54 --> 15:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Did you know he's still listed as the primary first basement on baseball reference?
15:58 --> 15:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd like whiplash today.
16:00 --> 16:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that makes sense.
16:01 --> 16:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Josh Naylor's only played a month of games here.
16:04 --> 16:04 [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
16:05 --> 16:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Still.
16:08 --> 16:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Donovan Solano and Raudi Toles for four months.
16:14 --> 16:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they could have signed Carlos Santana and or traded for, or no, signed Carlos Santana who was also cut today.
16:23 --> 16:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't have a much better season.
16:26 --> 16:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And by all reports, the Mariners offered more money than the Guardians did to bring him here.
16:31 --> 16:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
16:32 --> 16:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, what a big good.
16:33 --> 16:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I think you had a WRC plus of about eighty six.
16:38 --> 16:40 [SPEAKER_01]: This is why you don't set fifty million dollar budgets.
16:40 --> 16:42 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's move on because the team's flying really well.
16:43 --> 16:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, when when the offense is hot.
16:48 --> 16:50 [SPEAKER_01]: You have multiple guys that can carry it at different times.
16:50 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why the Mariners offense post deadline has had so much success.
16:53 --> 17:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I guess aside from the road trip that you have a different guys carry the offense at different points of the last month, which is what deep lineups do.
17:02 --> 17:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Like when everybody's hot at once, great, then you're a world leader and truly unstoppable, which will also happen at stretches of the year.
17:09 --> 17:16 [SPEAKER_01]: But there's periods of time that have certain players hot when others aren't that still lead to wins and still leads to offensive production and run scored.
17:17 --> 17:20 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't even think we've seen the best version of this lineup yet.
17:20 --> 17:26 [SPEAKER_02]: We saw a really good home stand, but otherwise I think there's a lot more left in the tank.
17:27 --> 17:30 [SPEAKER_02]: There's we have a first mail back question.
17:30 --> 17:34 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to read the question yet and we'll get into the we'll get into the whole mail back here in a little bit.
17:35 --> 17:41 [SPEAKER_02]: But it is related to the lineup and I have some numbers down for this new look Mariners on up after the deadline.
17:42 --> 17:43 [SPEAKER_02]: You look at the lineup.
17:43 --> 17:44 [SPEAKER_02]: You see all the talent in it.
17:44 --> 17:48 [SPEAKER_02]: You see like this should be a top five lineup and baseball.
17:49 --> 17:50 [SPEAKER_02]: They should be scoring a ton of runs.
17:51 --> 17:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Since the deadline mile, this lineup is fifteenth and runs eighteenth and on base percentage, seventeenth and slug and fourteenth and WRC plus.
17:59 --> 18:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Usually they get a boost in WRC plus because of the ballpark.
18:02 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_02]: In this case they did not.
18:04 --> 18:10 [SPEAKER_02]: To those numbers sound right to like it feels a little low for the slun up, but that's what they've done since the deadline.
18:11 --> 18:12 [SPEAKER_01]: It does feel low.
18:12 --> 18:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that also speaks to the road trip they just had.
18:14 --> 18:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of that is brought down by the road trip because obviously at home for the home stretch before that, they were great.
18:21 --> 18:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And this past home series, they were good.
18:23 --> 18:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Not perfect, but good.
18:25 --> 18:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Which is the reason why I say there's still a lot left in the tank for this offense of seeing four straight weeks of this and seeing the ground that they can cover hitting like that for four weeks.
18:36 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_02]: What does the division lead look like if you do that for four weeks?
18:38 --> 18:41 [SPEAKER_02]: What does the wild card look like if you do that for four weeks?
18:41 --> 18:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Heck, if they have in the twenty eight games remaining in the season, those four great weeks of offense, the Mariners are winning this division.
18:49 --> 18:51 [SPEAKER_02]: They don't have to worry about the wild card.
18:51 --> 18:58 [SPEAKER_02]: They're going out there in their winning division if they've line up stays healthy and hits like it did for that homestead for four straight weeks.
18:59 --> 18:59 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
18:59 --> 19:00 [SPEAKER_02]: That's all they need.
19:00 --> 19:02 [SPEAKER_02]: And they'll go out and they'll be as successful as they want to be.
19:03 --> 19:08 [SPEAKER_02]: We've still seen a little bit of the streakiness of it though, as you said, the hot and cold is able to be offset by a certain players.
19:09 --> 19:18 [SPEAKER_02]: I think what you see from this is that you see a lineup be seventeen with guys called as opposed to twenty-seventh, which is what we got last year.
19:19 --> 19:22 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's a massive improvement, massive massive improvement.
19:22 --> 19:26 [SPEAKER_01]: If they were the seventeen best options last year, they easily get into the playoffs.
19:27 --> 19:29 [SPEAKER_02]: So Shadow Geno, he's hot.
19:29 --> 19:32 [SPEAKER_02]: This is what the Mariners paid for in a trade.
19:32 --> 19:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I also love that he's walking.
19:33 --> 19:38 [SPEAKER_02]: He wasn't walking as much in Arizona, but this stretch for he's up at about eleven percent.
19:39 --> 19:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I do love to see that because that was something he's really good at when he's in Seattle the last time.
19:43 --> 19:47 [SPEAKER_02]: One last thing to note before the male bag lie, uh, just want to get a take from you on this.
19:48 --> 19:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Ryan Bliss got activated today and he's down in a rehab assignment.
19:53 --> 19:58 [SPEAKER_02]: He's, I'd imagine going to get the Victor Robless runway of rehab assignment play.
19:59 --> 20:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Is there any way he's on this roster in September?
20:03 --> 20:04 [SPEAKER_01]: I would be pretty surprised.
20:04 --> 20:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he didn't technically get activated because he's still on the I.L.
20:07 --> 20:08 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just on rehab assignment.
20:08 --> 20:11 [SPEAKER_02]: He got sent out on a rehab assignment.
20:11 --> 20:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
20:11 --> 20:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
20:12 --> 20:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
20:13 --> 20:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I would be surprised.
20:15 --> 20:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Number one, because it's been so long since he's played.
20:17 --> 20:20 [SPEAKER_01]: He only played a couple handfuls of games in April before he got hurt.
20:21 --> 20:27 [SPEAKER_01]: paired with feels like Cole Young's job pretty steadily now, right?
20:27 --> 20:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I like Ryan Bliss a lot and he's a great dude and we root for him and he's obviously got potential.
20:34 --> 20:41 [SPEAKER_01]: But if you're talking about the remainder of twenty twenty five, it feels like the Mariners have a vision of what their roster is going to be.
20:41 --> 20:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Cole Young's going to be the second baseman.
20:43 --> 20:49 [SPEAKER_01]: They'll probably call up one of the utility guys in September for the extra man on the roster or Ben Williamson.
20:50 --> 20:52 [SPEAKER_01]: and those are all the spots, right?
20:52 --> 21:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where Bliss exactly fits in considering it's been a long time since he's played this year and he only plays one position.
21:01 --> 21:03 [SPEAKER_02]: It really hurts and that he's only a second baseman.
21:03 --> 21:18 [SPEAKER_02]: If he could play short like he didn't college or third base, then that would help him out a little bit for his case, because then you can say, all right, the Mariners need right handed hitters to face lefties as they've told us.
21:18 --> 21:22 [SPEAKER_02]: They want to get a little more balanced against lefties when they're on the mound.
21:23 --> 21:29 [SPEAKER_02]: But since he can't play anywhere else, you'd probably just have been instead, been by the way.
21:30 --> 21:31 [SPEAKER_02]: and he used to mash and to go my.
21:31 --> 21:34 [SPEAKER_02]: He's sitting almost four hundreds and it's going down to coma.
21:34 --> 21:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Just not bad.
21:36 --> 21:39 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't see how bliss can find his way under the roster.
21:39 --> 21:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't see it.
21:40 --> 21:43 [SPEAKER_02]: There's just not enough versatility there to make that worth it.
21:44 --> 21:52 [SPEAKER_02]: And we've seen good spurts with him with his bat, but it's not proven enough at the bakery level to just assure him that there's a spot there.
21:54 --> 21:58 [SPEAKER_01]: And he is the physical ability to place shortstop, obviously, because he did it in college.
21:58 --> 22:03 [SPEAKER_01]: He did it in the minors, but he has not played an inning of shortstop defensively in the big leagues.
22:03 --> 22:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He's taken in field reps there, both pregame when he's been rehabbing.
22:07 --> 22:10 [SPEAKER_01]: We've seen him at the field, taken ground balls at both short and second.
22:10 --> 22:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember we even saw him taking a little bit of
22:12 --> 22:14 [SPEAKER_01]: reps at third base back in spring training.
22:15 --> 22:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure in a pinch of he had to do it.
22:18 --> 22:29 [SPEAKER_01]: He could do it, but the idea that he'd start there on a somewhat regular basis once or twice a week probably isn't something the Mariners are going to do down the final run a September where they have most of their roster set and stone.
22:29 --> 22:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not saying Ryan Bliss won't find a way on to the roster in twenty twenty six, especially if he's healthy, especially if he plays well.
22:36 --> 22:36 [SPEAKER_01]: But
22:37 --> 22:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess it's hard to imagine it would happen this year.
22:41 --> 22:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I would guess he'll get his long full rehab assignment down into coma for the twenty one days.
22:47 --> 22:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And then once that comes to an end.
22:50 --> 22:53 [SPEAKER_01]: The rain here season will be close to over by that point.
22:54 --> 22:57 [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe he technically be activated on to Tacoma's roster for a few days.
22:58 --> 23:02 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think I think for the most part, he'll just rehab the rest of the year.
23:03 --> 23:07 [SPEAKER_02]: But they would have to option him to to come in a matter of what if he's not on the big league roster.
23:07 --> 23:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Even if Tacoma's not playing.
23:09 --> 23:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Has he?
23:11 --> 23:13 [SPEAKER_01]: No, he hasn't been option at any point this year.
23:14 --> 23:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if they almost fan them put them back on the IL for the final two days at Tacoma's season so they don't have to burn an option with them.
23:20 --> 23:22 [SPEAKER_02]: But they would have to activate him when the season's over.
23:24 --> 23:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Because they can't IL him the entire off season.
23:28 --> 23:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's still in the forty man.
23:29 --> 23:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that matters.
23:31 --> 23:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, depends.
23:31 --> 23:33 [SPEAKER_02]: When does the league year end?
23:35 --> 23:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, if they could game the system.
23:37 --> 23:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
23:39 --> 23:39 [SPEAKER_02]: To keep them on.
23:40 --> 23:40 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
23:40 --> 23:40 [SPEAKER_01]: That, you're right.
23:41 --> 23:42 [SPEAKER_01]: That would probably be too long.
23:43 --> 23:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
23:43 --> 23:46 [SPEAKER_02]: So he would need to, he would, they would burn an option.
23:47 --> 23:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
23:48 --> 23:49 [SPEAKER_02]: So, but I don't think that's the end of the world.
23:49 --> 23:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Because again, you look at your roster.
23:50 --> 23:51 [SPEAKER_02]: There's nowhere to put him.
23:52 --> 23:53 [SPEAKER_02]: So you just got to do it.
23:53 --> 23:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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25:27 --> 25:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go to Josh for a Stompature online.
25:29 --> 25:32 [SPEAKER_02]: And the question is, how would you revamp this batting order heading into September?
25:33 --> 25:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Josh says he'd love to see Nailor batting lead off over Randy.
25:39 --> 25:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Personally, I don't think I'd revamp it.
25:41 --> 25:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I get the nailer stealing bases, which is great, and I hope he keeps doing it.
25:46 --> 25:54 [SPEAKER_01]: But I think Randy is such a perfect modern day lead off hitter in terms of what fits that prototype.
25:54 --> 25:56 [SPEAKER_01]: The George Springer type lead off hitter.
25:57 --> 26:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Power, speed, Ken walk, gets on base.
26:02 --> 26:09 [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to look at some non baseball factors outside of the box score, just the energy immediately provides at the top of the order.
26:09 --> 26:15 [SPEAKER_01]: The threat he imposes at the top of the order, not the nailer doesn't, but people take Randy very seriously.
26:16 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Anytime he steps to the plate, especially if he's leading off a baseball game.
26:19 --> 26:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So if it's up to me, I actually really like the way the line obstructured.
26:22 --> 26:25 [SPEAKER_02]: I also wouldn't revamp the line up, but let's do the exercise.
26:25 --> 26:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's mock revamp the line up.
26:28 --> 26:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's put nailer in the lead off spot.
26:30 --> 26:31 [SPEAKER_02]: How would we go after that?
26:35 --> 26:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess they've been hitting cow second a lot ahead of Julio.
26:39 --> 26:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of times these days and baseball the best hit or does hit second rather than third.
26:43 --> 26:44 [SPEAKER_01]: So sure, we can keep it like that.
26:44 --> 26:47 [SPEAKER_01]: We go nailer, cow, Julio.
26:49 --> 26:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Geno Rando.
26:50 --> 26:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Geno Rando.
26:51 --> 26:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Geno Rando.
26:52 --> 26:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Geno Rando.
26:53 --> 26:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Geno Rando.
26:54 --> 26:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Geno Rando.
26:55 --> 26:57 [SPEAKER_01]: You would have Polanco sick.
26:57 --> 27:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't honestly put Polanco up at five to break up the righties.
27:01 --> 27:06 [SPEAKER_02]: The thing I worry about if you lead Nailor off is you're creating unfavorable pockets for yourself.
27:07 --> 27:15 [SPEAKER_02]: In the lineup and pocket, by the way, when we're referencing that, that means you have X amount of X handing as hitters in a row.
27:15 --> 27:20 [SPEAKER_02]: The problem I ran into this with this lineup, as you keep going while, I'll finish off the lineup for you because I wrote down a mock one.
27:21 --> 27:22 [SPEAKER_02]: The bottom three are pretty much the same.
27:23 --> 27:28 [SPEAKER_02]: So you have Palanco five, Randy six, can zone JP Cole, seven, eight, nine.
27:28 --> 27:31 [SPEAKER_02]: The problem with that line is you have four lefties in a row.
27:31 --> 27:38 [SPEAKER_02]: That leaves you vulnerable for a bullpen decision late in the game with some ace left handed reliever.
27:39 --> 27:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Like who is the the pod raise reliever whose name is escaping me who's just diabolical against lefties.
27:45 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Adrian Morahon, who is all that there.
27:47 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
27:48 --> 27:50 [SPEAKER_02]: That guy, like imagine if you run into him, it's over.
27:51 --> 27:52 [SPEAKER_02]: If he's facing your lefties.
27:52 --> 27:57 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's what that line up leaves you a little bit vulnerable for as opposed to Randy.
27:58 --> 28:00 [SPEAKER_02]: It's only three in a row, instead of four.
28:01 --> 28:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
28:02 --> 28:10 [SPEAKER_02]: And if you even want to break it up more, cows are switch hitter, but say you want to break up righty Julio, you hit Julio second and calth third.
28:11 --> 28:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that something for the Mariners to consider in terms of actually revamping a lineup in September?
28:16 --> 28:17 [SPEAKER_01]: If we're talking this through here.
28:20 --> 28:30 [SPEAKER_01]: If we keep what they've been doing for the most part the same with Randy, then Cal, then Julio, then Nailer, then Gino, so that's the first five.
28:31 --> 28:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Is there some thought to putting JP-Six?
28:36 --> 28:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I know he hasn't hit as well as of late, but JP-Six, and then Palonco-Seventh, and then you go
28:43 --> 28:49 [SPEAKER_01]: can zone, nailer, or sorry, can zone and call young, just so it's two lefties in a row, rather than three in a row.
28:50 --> 28:51 [SPEAKER_01]: It just feels like come play off time.
28:52 --> 28:58 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the easiest decision for an opposing manager in the world to say, oh, if that pocket's coming out, we're going to our best lefty.
28:59 --> 29:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Could be, the problem is Polanco is a quote unquote right handed hitters, not much these days.
29:06 --> 29:06 [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
29:08 --> 29:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so you like one way or not, he is a can hit right handed, but his production right handed has not been otherworldly.
29:16 --> 29:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess either way, they're going to be left a little bit exposed in that way.
29:19 --> 29:28 [SPEAKER_01]: You can't have a perfect lineup for the most part, but that is the one thing you look out with this lineup is when you get to the bottom, it does make for some decently easy decisions out of a
29:30 --> 29:31 [SPEAKER_01]: opposing manager and deploying his bullpen.
29:32 --> 29:39 [SPEAKER_02]: The handiness factor, I'd say Josh, makes more sense having a rosarina up at the top rather than nailer.
29:40 --> 29:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Both are fine options for what you would want out of a lead off hitter, like if you talk about the stolen bases or the on-base threat or the potential to hit for some average or the power, both have it.
29:52 --> 29:55 [SPEAKER_02]: But from a handiness perspective, I like Randy out there.
29:55 --> 29:56 [SPEAKER_02]: So you can split it up.
29:56 --> 29:58 [SPEAKER_02]: You have your best hit or second.
29:58 --> 29:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Then you have a righty and Julio.
30:00 --> 30:01 [SPEAKER_02]: You have a lefty and nailer.
30:01 --> 30:02 [SPEAKER_02]: You have a righty and Gino.
30:02 --> 30:04 [SPEAKER_02]: And then you can have Planco as a switch hitter.
30:04 --> 30:06 [SPEAKER_02]: And then the three lefties to finish it out.
30:07 --> 30:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm with that.
30:08 --> 30:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm buying that.
30:11 --> 30:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for the question, Josh.
30:12 --> 30:15 [SPEAKER_02]: The next question also comes on Patreon.
30:15 --> 30:21 [SPEAKER_02]: This one's from Graham and Graham asks Castillo is again not had a great August and his velocity is notably down.
30:22 --> 30:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you still see him?
30:23 --> 30:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you still see him as a trade or trade target to trade away?
30:29 --> 30:30 [SPEAKER_01]: My opinion on this is not waiver.
30:30 --> 30:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I think Luis Castillo is most likely not in a Mariners uniform in twenty twenty six.
30:36 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_01]: his numbers just continue to regress if you look at the underlying stuff under the hood.
30:41 --> 30:47 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of it's dropped again this year and there were things for him to clean up in twenty twenty five.
30:47 --> 30:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And there were things that again dropped his barrel rate, for example, his opposing barrel rate and how hard opposition is hitting the ball against them.
30:56 --> 30:58 [SPEAKER_01]: It already wasn't in a good spot last year.
30:59 --> 31:00 [SPEAKER_01]: It's dropped another twenty percent this year.
31:01 --> 31:03 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's getting hit even harder again.
31:03 --> 31:06 [SPEAKER_01]: He's striking way less guys out this year.
31:06 --> 31:09 [SPEAKER_01]: You saw that he hasn't had a great August, like Ram just mentioned.
31:10 --> 31:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And we already know that the mariners were in real trade talks this offseason to potentially deal him away.
31:15 --> 31:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I think if the Mariners had gotten a somewhat satisfactory return this past winner, they might have even done it then.
31:23 --> 31:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you go back and listen to our podcast episode that we did about a month and a half ago with Jared Corrabis, he gave some intel into how much Boston was interested.
31:34 --> 31:39 [SPEAKER_01]: And some of the talks that were going on behind the scenes there, which made it sound like they were decently serious.
31:42 --> 31:57 [SPEAKER_01]: How close that really got, I don't know, but it just feels to me like with Jorangelow getting close and with Kate Anderson having the potential to shoot through the system next year and with Casio continuing to regress and the fact that no trade clause expires on January first.
31:59 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_01]: feels like to me, he is probably in another uniform next year.
32:03 --> 32:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm in the same boat as you, but instead of repeat that, let me play Devil's Advocate here.
32:07 --> 32:17 [SPEAKER_02]: What if the Mariners think April of next year, they don't have a picture in their organization, they're more confident in to fill that rotation spot than Luis Castillo than what?
32:20 --> 32:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say,
32:22 --> 32:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Luis Castillo making twenty three million dollars a year versus Logan making Logan Evans making League minimum isn't going to be that drastic a difference and if the Mariners want to go do things like resine Josh Nailer potentially resine genome potentially go make other moves this winter
32:37 --> 32:45 [SPEAKER_01]: They may feel like they need to clear a little bit of money, and I would say the glaring spot to do that would be trying to free up Castillo's contract.
32:45 --> 32:47 [SPEAKER_02]: The money part is the biggest part of all this.
32:47 --> 32:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because you could talk about Logan Evans versus Louis Castillo all day, but what it really comes down to is the ability to save twenty five, twenty two.
32:58 --> 33:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Next year, what's the specific number?
33:00 --> 33:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Twenty four?
33:01 --> 33:25 [SPEAKER_01]: however much money they can they can get off the books with him which by the way if you clear all that you're probably not getting much of anything back I would think or you eat half the money and do try to get something back because if you take on a portion of the salary you could get something real potentially back because there's teams out there that would view him is still a number two or three types start or probably more like a number three at this point but
33:26 --> 33:29 [SPEAKER_01]: need starting pitching and to get a potential return nice.
33:29 --> 33:30 [SPEAKER_01]: They'll look at the Orioles for example.
33:31 --> 33:33 [SPEAKER_02]: You know he could go somewhere and be productive.
33:33 --> 33:35 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like it's not that he hasn't been productive this year.
33:35 --> 33:41 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just he hasn't been great and you have so many options and you need that money to be spent elsewhere.
33:41 --> 33:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, not in the rotation.
33:44 --> 33:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, by next year at some point during the summer,
33:48 --> 33:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Jorangelo may very well be ready.
33:51 --> 33:53 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's a world Kate Anderson's ready.
33:53 --> 33:57 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see how aggressive they get with him, but there is a world both those guys are ready.
33:58 --> 34:04 [SPEAKER_01]: And I just don't see how that works with Luis Castillo still being here.
34:04 --> 34:05 [SPEAKER_02]: It's fair point.
34:06 --> 34:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Next picture on question comes from Zander and Zander's question is, who gets the ball game one of the postseason?
34:13 --> 34:15 [SPEAKER_02]: I can see arguments for both Wu and Gilbert.
34:15 --> 34:17 [SPEAKER_02]: And let's say everyone's fully rested.
34:19 --> 34:21 [SPEAKER_01]: who gets a game one start?
34:22 --> 34:25 [SPEAKER_01]: At the start of the year, the easy answer would have been Logan Gilbert.
34:27 --> 34:29 [SPEAKER_01]: It has to be Bryan Wu now, right?
34:29 --> 34:38 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're serious about getting out ahead of a series lead game one on who's been your most consistent and dominant arm this year, it's Wu.
34:38 --> 34:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Wu is going to give you length.
34:39 --> 34:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't give up hard contact.
34:41 --> 34:43 [SPEAKER_01]: He's been dominant all season.
34:43 --> 34:45 [SPEAKER_01]: This is not a knock on Logan Gilbert.
34:45 --> 34:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Logan Gilbert would pitch game two, but I'm going with Bryan Wu and game one.
34:48 --> 34:49 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going with Bryan Wu too.
34:49 --> 34:56 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's, he sets you up best for the rest of the series because at of all the guys in your rotation, he's most likely going to go six.
34:57 --> 35:04 [SPEAKER_02]: which alleviates your bullpen leaves you better rested for the rest of the series and he's just been flat out better this year.
35:04 --> 35:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I think you ride the hot hand of this season rather than looking at seasons past to make evaluations.
35:13 --> 35:18 [SPEAKER_02]: If you want to look at this with a little bit more of a microscope and want to say what do you want out of the start?
35:18 --> 35:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, who's been better this year?
35:20 --> 35:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Who has a higher upside total?
35:22 --> 35:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's Logan Gilbert.
35:24 --> 35:27 [SPEAKER_02]: But if you just want, look, this guy's been way better this year.
35:27 --> 35:28 [SPEAKER_02]: I want him starting.
35:29 --> 35:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's Brian Lill.
35:30 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_02]: But you know what?
35:31 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
35:31 --> 35:32 [SPEAKER_02]: The best thing about all this?
35:32 --> 35:35 [SPEAKER_02]: The murders are going to have a kick-ass game two and game three starter as well.
35:36 --> 35:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Loaking, loaking Gilbert, despite all of his faults this year, has a career low in expected DRA and has a strikeout rate of thirty-five percent as a starter.
35:46 --> 35:48 [SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty good option for number two.
35:48 --> 35:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say I'll take it.
35:51 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Just make sure those games are at home.
35:54 --> 36:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep for everybody except who maybe maybe this is a case if the Mariners don't if if they win the division start Brian Wu game three That is actually a decent idea because try to minimize these guys pitching on the road I actually yes I don't know how we didn't think about that until right now, but if that's the case I would save Wu to game three and start them on the road Logan game one Kirby game two
36:22 --> 36:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Woo game three and then.
36:24 --> 36:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Pray for Castile or you just use three starters.
36:28 --> 36:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Some teams do that to spend so much rest.
36:30 --> 36:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I guess it depends on everyone.
36:31 --> 36:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I would say they'd probably piggyback instead of just straight no straight three or four days rest for how of that would be, but yeah.
36:42 --> 36:46 [SPEAKER_01]: You also are factoring in here the idea that the Mariners would have enough time to re-slot their rotation.
36:46 --> 36:51 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a chance they wouldn't be able to do that and they're just going to have to go with who's ready and who's available on that day.
36:51 --> 36:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
36:52 --> 36:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, bro.
36:53 --> 36:54 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good question.
36:54 --> 37:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I love getting to talk about this stuff and let's hope we can have a real discussion about it when they clinch a playoff spot.
37:01 --> 37:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I love getting to talk about it because that means the Mariners are relevant and they're doing the right things and we are talking about potential playoff rotations, which is awesome.
37:08 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of playoffs, our next mailback question comes from Kyle and Kyle's question is, this is on Patreon too, in our opinion, what would be the perfect playoff scenario for the Mariners, assuming they win the AL West?
37:24 --> 37:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't play that wildcard round on the road, but yes, in this exercise is assuming they win the West.
37:30 --> 37:37 [SPEAKER_01]: That is priority number one, in my opinion, not just winning the West, but do not go out on the road for that wildcard series.
37:37 --> 37:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Please.
37:39 --> 37:40 [SPEAKER_01]: So what's the scenario?
37:40 --> 37:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
37:43 --> 37:47 [SPEAKER_01]: It more becomes about which team do you most want to face?
37:48 --> 37:50 [SPEAKER_01]: In other words, which team doesn't have a true ace?
37:50 --> 37:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I know the Mariners of Beat Scooble twice this year.
37:52 --> 37:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care.
37:53 --> 37:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I do not want to see Terrac Scooble twice in a five game series that sounds like a nightmare.
37:57 --> 38:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see Garacrochet twice in a five game series that sounds like a nightmare.
38:01 --> 38:02 [SPEAKER_01]: The Red Sox offense is also very good.
38:04 --> 38:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I think if it were up to me,
38:08 --> 38:12 [SPEAKER_01]: You would get to match up with the Yankees at home.
38:13 --> 38:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, no, sorry, sorry, sorry.
38:14 --> 38:15 [SPEAKER_01]: You win the West.
38:15 --> 38:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I was about to talk about the Wildcard round.
38:18 --> 38:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say it's to match up with the Yankees and the Blue Jays in the playoffs.
38:25 --> 38:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Really?
38:26 --> 38:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm, or actually sorry, now the blue days.
38:29 --> 38:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Astros funny enough, which is funny because you don't usually want to see the Astros, but if it somehow slots up where you could fake, like when the AL West and the two rounds that you play in the postseason before the world series, you see the Yankees and the Astros in some order, that's ideal.
38:45 --> 38:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Because the reason I was originally thinking about the blue jays is again the idea that they don't have true aces,
38:52 --> 39:00 [SPEAKER_01]: where with facing the Astros in the postseason you do have to see Framber and Hunter Brown potentially four of the five games.
39:01 --> 39:16 [SPEAKER_01]: But the Astros have been so middleing all year and their bullpen is so banged up all of a sudden and their whole team is so banged up that some of that might offset where I would say Yankees and the Astros would be the softest landing spots.
39:18 --> 39:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Instead of the Yankees, let me just redo my bracket.
39:21 --> 39:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I like bracketed it out a little bit.
39:23 --> 39:25 [SPEAKER_02]: I want the Mariners to have the two seed.
39:26 --> 39:30 [SPEAKER_02]: I want that wild card series to be the Astros and the Tigers battling it out.
39:31 --> 39:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Whichever the teams wins, wins, I'd rather play the Astros to be honest because I think their team would be the least talented in the playoff field.
39:39 --> 39:43 [SPEAKER_02]: and then the Mariners beat the Astros so they can get revenge on them in the DS.
39:44 --> 39:50 [SPEAKER_02]: On the other side of the bracket I want all three ALE's teams to kick the crap out of each other because those are three good teams.
39:51 --> 39:53 [SPEAKER_02]: I was looking at today, by the way, Low.
39:53 --> 39:56 [SPEAKER_02]: They are all like very good at a lot of things.
39:56 --> 39:59 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, a team, this is going to come up in another male bad question.
39:59 --> 40:02 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, a team I don't want to play in the postseason, the Red Sox.
40:02 --> 40:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not at all.
40:03 --> 40:06 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, I want no part of the Red Sox.
40:06 --> 40:06 [SPEAKER_02]: And we'll get to that.
40:06 --> 40:08 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a male bad question about that.
40:08 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll get to that a little bit later.
40:10 --> 40:11 [SPEAKER_02]: So don't want to see them.
40:11 --> 40:13 [SPEAKER_02]: I want them losing on that other side of the bracket.
40:14 --> 40:17 [SPEAKER_02]: And then the team, I would want to come out of that scrum.
40:18 --> 40:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Actually, would be the Blue Jays.
40:21 --> 40:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you were about to tell me I was crazy.
40:22 --> 40:26 [SPEAKER_01]: See, now I'm thinking about it more as we verbally process this.
40:26 --> 40:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't look at my notes enough.
40:27 --> 40:28 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
40:28 --> 40:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say, I'm verbally processing this more and thinking about the idea of having to face Hunter Brown and Framor Valdez four times in five games against the Astros that doesn't sound like a fun matchup.
40:39 --> 40:44 [SPEAKER_01]: That sounds like a potential disaster and the Mariners having to get themselves
40:44 --> 40:56 [SPEAKER_01]: into pitching battles, which I know in a lot of years you feel comfortable with, but with the bullpen being a little bit shaky and the astros having all this pro postseason experience and they just get your on back.
40:57 --> 41:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I know it's not the team it's been in years past, but it is still the Astros.
41:02 --> 41:06 [SPEAKER_01]: It would be an Astros team with Yordon and it would be an Astros team with Hunter Brown and Framber Valdez.
41:06 --> 41:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me say this.
41:08 --> 41:13 [SPEAKER_01]: The Toronto Blue Jays currently ranked twenty-a-thin Major League Baseball and Starter ZRA.
41:13 --> 41:14 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a really have a rotation.
41:14 --> 41:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
41:16 --> 41:20 [SPEAKER_02]: I would like to play them, but the odds are right now you're not going to get to match up with them in the wildcard round.
41:21 --> 41:23 [SPEAKER_02]: that seems unlikely.
41:24 --> 41:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Or that ALDS.
41:25 --> 41:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say when the West and ideally the two teams you get to face are the Yankees and you get the majority of those games at home, hopefully the Yankees are a wildcard team.
41:34 --> 41:35 [SPEAKER_02]: And then you face the BlueJakes.
41:36 --> 41:36 [SPEAKER_01]: What's that?
41:36 --> 41:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to play the Yankees.
41:38 --> 41:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to risk them not having the best player on the field.
41:42 --> 41:48 [SPEAKER_02]: I know Aaron Judge chokes in the post season, but I watched all six of those Yankee Mariners games this year, while it was not pleasant.
41:49 --> 41:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't care how much they've struggled.
41:51 --> 41:52 [SPEAKER_02]: It was not pleasant.
41:53 --> 41:55 [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't think they're very good this year.
41:55 --> 41:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, neither are the Astros.
41:57 --> 42:03 [SPEAKER_02]: And I can at least look at the Astros roster and say, outside of those two starting pictures, I don't buy any of it.
42:04 --> 42:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but you know what the Yankees don't have.
42:06 --> 42:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Gary Cole, so you don't have to face him.
42:09 --> 42:12 [SPEAKER_01]: and Max Freed has gone the wrong direction in the second half.
42:13 --> 42:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think that team has it this year.
42:15 --> 42:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I know you're afraid of the Yankees because of the name brand and because you'd have to play in the Bronx and because I've watched them play, I watched the Mariners and Yankees play this year.
42:22 --> 42:23 [SPEAKER_02]: It was not pretty.
42:24 --> 42:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I just look at the rest of the field and say, what two teams, what I most want the Mariners to face off with and who would favor them in a matchup, if you just either intentionally walk Aaron Judge every about like we've talked about,
42:37 --> 42:40 [SPEAKER_01]: or just pitch around him, what is that team?
42:41 --> 42:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Is a non-air and judge Yankees line up better or worse than the Astros line up with Yordon back?
42:46 --> 42:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Better.
42:47 --> 42:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Still a better one.
42:48 --> 42:49 [SPEAKER_02]: I think Yordon's gonna be good.
42:49 --> 42:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he did just hit a home run and second game back, but.
42:53 --> 43:00 [SPEAKER_02]: but he was terrible before this, you're started and he's got a long way to go to like, put up enough numbers where I say, okay, he's back.
43:01 --> 43:06 [SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, like we can look at the playoff starter and be like, ooh, scary.
43:06 --> 43:14 [SPEAKER_02]: The Mariners faced, I don't know if you remember this, Siang winner, Justin Verlander in twenty twenty two and proceeded to knock the crap out of him in game one of the DS.
43:15 --> 43:16 [SPEAKER_02]: That didn't matter at all.
43:18 --> 43:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd still rather face worse pitching.
43:21 --> 43:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I would too, but I'd rather face the worse team.
43:24 --> 43:28 [SPEAKER_01]: aren't the Yankees and potentially, Blue Jays, the two worst teams, or you put in the ass.
43:29 --> 43:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the Blue Jays by record or not, because the Blue Jays have a great offense, and they have a pretty good bullpen.
43:33 --> 43:36 [SPEAKER_02]: I would say the Astros would be the worst team in this playoff field.
43:39 --> 43:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Look, again, outside of those two starters, what scares you?
43:44 --> 43:53 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just the idea of still having a first three about two of A-Yord on Pania, but I guess the rest of that line-ups not much.
43:55 --> 43:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd rather play the Astros than I'd rather play the Blue Jace.
43:58 --> 43:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I was wrong and my Blue Jace take by the way again.
43:59 --> 44:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I needed to look at my notes.
44:00 --> 44:04 [SPEAKER_02]: The Blue Jace pitching staff is a real weak point.
44:04 --> 44:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it might be the biggest weak point of the current playoff teams.
44:08 --> 44:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Period.
44:09 --> 44:12 [SPEAKER_02]: And then so that we've been talking about the American League Lyle.
44:12 --> 44:14 [SPEAKER_02]: There's only one answer for the National League.
44:15 --> 44:17 [SPEAKER_01]: In terms of what team you want in the world series?
44:17 --> 44:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
44:19 --> 44:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you're looking up and down the national league, I would say it's the, man, every team is so good in the NL.
44:27 --> 44:28 [SPEAKER_01]: It's probably the Mets.
44:28 --> 44:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
44:30 --> 44:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it is the Mets.
44:31 --> 44:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And why do I want it to be the Mets?
44:34 --> 44:42 [SPEAKER_01]: To see Frank absolutely melt down in a world series matchup, so that we can celebrate our world series win with a Frank rant.
44:43 --> 44:44 [SPEAKER_01]: That sounds awesome.
44:44 --> 44:48 [SPEAKER_01]: The problem is they are far and away, the least likely team in the national league to win the penant.
44:50 --> 44:51 [SPEAKER_01]: This is whatever we want, Lyle.
44:51 --> 44:53 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a fantasy world.
44:54 --> 44:54 [SPEAKER_01]: It's true.
44:56 --> 44:57 [SPEAKER_02]: That was a good exercise.
44:58 --> 45:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you to Kyle for the question.
45:00 --> 45:01 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
45:01 --> 45:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I'm wrong about the Blue Jay's bullpen too.
45:02 --> 45:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Earlier in the year, they were really good.
45:04 --> 45:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Now they're just middleing as a bullpen.
45:06 --> 45:07 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a real weakness.
45:07 --> 45:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
45:08 --> 45:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Remember what happened last time the Blue Jays had to lead against the Mariners and had their bullpen in there?
45:13 --> 45:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Oops.
45:14 --> 45:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Oops.
45:15 --> 45:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Next question is from Rusty on Patreon and Rusty's question is, when could we see these guys get to the big leagues?
45:23 --> 45:25 [SPEAKER_02]: I will list all three of them out.
45:25 --> 45:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Harry Ford, Kate Anderson, and Colt Emerson.
45:30 --> 45:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Harry Ford has every ability to be up right now.
45:32 --> 45:34 [SPEAKER_01]: There's still a world he could get up in September.
45:35 --> 45:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that's the move the Mariners make, just because they might value having extra infielders more than another catcher.
45:43 --> 45:48 [SPEAKER_01]: But I would say for Harry Ford, if it's not this year, he is going to be the backup catcher entering twenty twenty six.
45:48 --> 45:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Garver's contract will be up unlikely he's back.
45:51 --> 45:53 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners will roll with Harry Ford behind Cal Rally.
45:55 --> 46:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Colt Emerson my guess has been around the all star break of next year of everything goes right so summer sometime in twenty twenty six and Kate Anderson it could range anytime from next July to summer of twenty twenty seven.
46:14 --> 46:19 [SPEAKER_02]: So here's what I said I said Harry for the soonest would be September when the rosters expand.
46:19 --> 46:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Cade.
46:20 --> 46:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I honestly think the best shot for
46:24 --> 46:42 [SPEAKER_02]: is either opening day twenty twenty seven or may twenty twenty seven either he gets a month to ramp back up in triple a or double a and twenty twenty seven then gets called up or just straight up makes the rotation out of camp uh... and twenty twenty seven going into the season
46:43 --> 46:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there's a chance he gets called up next year.
46:45 --> 46:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I think next year is going to be.
46:47 --> 46:55 [SPEAKER_02]: If I want to if I'm going to comp it to a current Mariners pitcher in the minors, I'm going to comp it to Logan Gilbert's twenty nineteen.
46:55 --> 46:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember that?
46:56 --> 46:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Logan went up three levels that year.
46:59 --> 47:02 [SPEAKER_02]: He went from low a to high a to double a in one season.
47:03 --> 47:15 [SPEAKER_02]: college arm polished lots of innings, and still went all the way up to AA, not rushing him, finished the year in Arkansas.
47:16 --> 47:17 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's what they're going to do with Cade next year.
47:17 --> 47:20 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's going to split fifty fifty between
47:21 --> 47:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Everett and Arkansas and he's gonna finish his season.
47:25 --> 47:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they innings limit him he'll get to the end of the year if they don't innings limit him Perhaps he'd be done in mid August once he reaches his endings limit and then you look forward to twenty twenty seven with him and then Colt July twenty twenty six circle it That's what we both been saying
47:46 --> 47:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's about right.
47:48 --> 47:53 [SPEAKER_01]: That'll be close to a full year of high level minor league baseball between AA and AAA.
47:53 --> 47:56 [SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, as we said here, recording on Thursday, he just hit a homer.
47:56 --> 48:00 [SPEAKER_01]: He is not looked phased in any way in AA.
48:00 --> 48:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Defense has been great.
48:02 --> 48:09 [SPEAKER_01]: quicker than he was as a prospect, hitting for more power, made some swing changes, I mean, get really excited about Cold Emerson.
48:10 --> 48:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I certainly am.
48:11 --> 48:15 [SPEAKER_01]: You are, and I think next summer is a very realistic timeline.
48:16 --> 48:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And if someone wants to rush him up, I would say patience.
48:19 --> 48:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Unless he is doing what Juan Soto did in the minor leagues and slugs like, eight hundred in AA,
48:26 --> 48:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Take a deep breath, let him get some mypats, let him play a year in double-light, and then worry about calling him up.
48:33 --> 48:35 [SPEAKER_02]: He is right now twenty years old.
48:38 --> 48:41 [SPEAKER_02]: When he debuted, next year in July is a twenty-one year old.
48:41 --> 48:47 [SPEAKER_02]: He will, like, cool young, like glass, be one of the youngest mariners to ever debut.
48:48 --> 48:49 [SPEAKER_01]: That's no need to rush.
48:50 --> 48:54 [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, Colt Emerson's birthday is July, twentieth.
48:54 --> 48:56 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a great birthday present.
48:56 --> 49:05 [SPEAKER_01]: There is a world people where he'd be right up against the clock, but he could debut still being twenty years old.
49:05 --> 49:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He could debut before his twenty first birthday.
49:07 --> 49:09 [SPEAKER_01]: So, yes, the TJ's point.
49:10 --> 49:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure there's going to be points next year where Colts inevitably lighting it up in the minor leagues and we're going to start getting a lot of questions about where's Colt Emerson, Call of Colt Emerson, it's time to bring up Colt Emerson.
49:21 --> 49:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's make sure, make sure they get it right and he is as ready as humanly possible before they call him up.
49:29 --> 49:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, Cole Young, because look what's happened with Cole Young after they developed him the right way and established patients with him.
49:37 --> 49:37 [SPEAKER_01]: It's worked.
49:38 --> 49:39 [SPEAKER_01]: He's been productive as a rookie.
49:40 --> 49:41 [SPEAKER_02]: He played a full season in AA.
49:41 --> 49:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
49:42 --> 49:47 [SPEAKER_01]: And Cold Emerson's feeling is higher than what Cold Young says, which is saying a lot, because Cold Young's had a really nice rookie year.
49:48 --> 49:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So a lot of the use of the patient.
49:50 --> 49:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was going to say, I wanted to use Julio as a comparison in Arkansas.
49:54 --> 50:02 [SPEAKER_02]: He did only play forty six games in Arkansas in twenty twenty one split between Everett Everett and Arkansas that year.
50:02 --> 50:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Col will or Col will play more in Arkansas than Julio did.
50:06 --> 50:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's right.
50:09 --> 50:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get to our next second to last Mailbag question.
50:12 --> 50:21 [SPEAKER_02]: This comes from David on Patreon and the question is, I would consider he says the Red Sox to me the most complete and dangerous team in the American League playoff race.
50:21 --> 50:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Would you agree?
50:23 --> 50:23 [SPEAKER_02]: My answer.
50:24 --> 50:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, no part of the Red Sox.
50:26 --> 50:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I want nothing to do with them.
50:28 --> 50:31 [SPEAKER_02]: If they match up in a series with the Mariners, good luck.
50:34 --> 50:37 [SPEAKER_01]: They're pretty sound on all three phases of the baseball at this point.
50:37 --> 50:48 [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to try and pinpoint where their weak link could be, it's probably the same place people have pointed out with the Red Sox for a bit now throughout most of the year, which I guess would be the rotation.
50:48 --> 50:54 [SPEAKER_01]: The difference is, even when you get past Garrett Crochet, who's obviously a complete ace in his own right,
50:54 --> 50:59 [SPEAKER_01]: The emergence of Brian Bayo this year has made that team extremely dangerous.
50:59 --> 51:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Brian Bayo has got a sub three ERA as we're sitting here recording this podcast and is taking some major steps forward.
51:05 --> 51:18 [SPEAKER_01]: So just like the idea of seeing Hunter Brown and Framber Valdez four or five times in a five game set in the playoffs, if the Mariners saw the Red Sox in the DS, you would have to see Crochet and Bayo four or five times.
51:18 --> 51:21 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't, that doesn't sound all that fun.
51:21 --> 51:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you get to their bullpen, which has been absolutely lights out, headline by Arral Dischatman, which is a little bit of an Iroh, because he's not the most likable guy in the world to say the least, but he objectively on the baseball field has been unprecedented over the last month and a half.
51:36 --> 51:37 [SPEAKER_01]: He's barely given up a hit.
51:38 --> 51:41 [SPEAKER_02]: He's got a earray of one point zero four for the season.
51:42 --> 51:45 [SPEAKER_01]: And in the last month, it's even more ridiculous than that.
51:45 --> 51:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Have you seen what he's done in the last month alone?
51:48 --> 51:48 [SPEAKER_02]: What is it?
51:49 --> 51:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you just look at his splits in the month of August, or all this Chapman has a zero ERA.
51:57 --> 52:01 [SPEAKER_01]: He is giving up a total of zero heads in the month of August.
52:02 --> 52:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Cheese.
52:03 --> 52:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't want any part of that.
52:05 --> 52:07 [SPEAKER_02]: And when you talk about well rounded,
52:08 --> 52:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Listen to this.
52:09 --> 52:10 [SPEAKER_02]: So the Red Sox as a team.
52:11 --> 52:25 [SPEAKER_02]: This year, fifth in ERA, fourth in runs scored, sixth in steals, fifth in base running run value on both, fan graphs and baseball subant, and their fifth in fielding run value as a team.
52:26 --> 52:32 [SPEAKER_02]: They have a guy in Sedan Rafael who is a plus glove at short and in center.
52:32 --> 52:35 [SPEAKER_02]: This dude makes some of the most ridiculous catches in the world I've ever seen in center.
52:36 --> 52:37 [SPEAKER_02]: They have Duran in the outfield.
52:37 --> 52:37 [SPEAKER_02]: They have willier.
52:37 --> 52:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Bray you in the outfield.
52:39 --> 52:41 [SPEAKER_02]: They have Roman Anthony in the outfield.
52:41 --> 52:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is a team that, oh, they have Alex Braggman in their eyes paid player.
52:45 --> 52:46 [SPEAKER_02]: This is a team that traded away.
52:47 --> 52:49 [SPEAKER_02]: They're best player and still is this stacked.
52:50 --> 52:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Roman Anthony, by the way, at
52:53 --> 52:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Twenty years old, or I'm sorry, debuted at twenty.
52:56 --> 53:00 [SPEAKER_01]: At twenty one years old, maybe debuted by age twenty one.
53:00 --> 53:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Point being, extremely young, he's already playing like a superstar.
53:03 --> 53:05 [SPEAKER_01]: He was the number one prospect in baseball entering this year.
53:06 --> 53:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He's already playing like a superstar.
53:07 --> 53:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So offense is really dangerous.
53:10 --> 53:12 [SPEAKER_01]: They have two dominant starters.
53:12 --> 53:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Lucas G. Alito, if you need a third, has actually had a really nice resurgent year this year.
53:17 --> 53:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And then there are five main guys in that bullpen.
53:20 --> 53:21 [SPEAKER_01]: The five guys they've used the most this year.
53:22 --> 53:24 [SPEAKER_01]: all have sub three areas.
53:24 --> 53:28 [SPEAKER_01]: The red socks I'm with you would not be a fun team to match up with.
53:28 --> 53:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want any part of that team.
53:30 --> 53:30 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't know.
53:30 --> 53:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Like where do the mayor's have an advantage?
53:34 --> 53:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
53:35 --> 53:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe on offense?
53:37 --> 53:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
53:38 --> 53:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe.
53:39 --> 53:41 [SPEAKER_02]: The red socks offense is out produced of no.
53:43 --> 53:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it has.
53:44 --> 53:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I just look at some of their positions and it's not perfect.
53:46 --> 53:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Carlos Novaya's as a catcher has been fine.
53:49 --> 53:50 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't really have a first basement.
53:50 --> 53:52 [SPEAKER_01]: They picked up Nathaniel low off waivers.
53:52 --> 53:53 [SPEAKER_01]: They've got a
53:55 --> 53:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Could have been a frozen horse.
53:59 --> 54:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Trevor's story is not lighting the world on fire with his bad.
54:02 --> 54:04 [SPEAKER_01]: He's at a better year this year, but he's not lighting it up.
54:05 --> 54:08 [SPEAKER_01]: So there are still weak spots in that order.
54:08 --> 54:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Raphael, for example, he's not some great hitter.
54:11 --> 54:12 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a great defender, not a great hitter.
54:13 --> 54:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So the Mariners might have a deeper lineup than the Red Sox.
54:17 --> 54:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Rotations are close.
54:20 --> 54:23 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't really have an ace the way crochet is.
54:23 --> 54:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, who is really good?
54:25 --> 54:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Logan is really good and Logan can be an ace when he's at his best.
54:29 --> 54:32 [SPEAKER_01]: But this year, they don't have somebody to match up with crochet.
54:32 --> 54:34 [SPEAKER_01]: So the rotations are close.
54:34 --> 54:36 [SPEAKER_01]: The bullpens are not.
54:36 --> 54:40 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners might have three really good bullpen arms, but the Red Sox bullpen is better.
54:41 --> 54:45 [SPEAKER_02]: And the Red Sox are probably a better base running team overall.
54:45 --> 54:46 [SPEAKER_02]: My would say.
54:46 --> 54:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, more speed.
54:48 --> 54:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
54:49 --> 54:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get to our last meal, bad question.
54:50 --> 54:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for that question, David.
54:52 --> 54:53 [SPEAKER_02]: That was a good experiment.
54:53 --> 55:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Final question here from Robert on Patreon and the question is, we've seen so many, we've seen several shaking outing from moonios lately.
55:02 --> 55:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Do we see any underlying numbers that reflect why that's happening?
55:07 --> 55:08 [SPEAKER_01]: One big one.
55:09 --> 55:09 [SPEAKER_01]: The walks.
55:10 --> 55:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Andres Munoz's profile is near perfect in almost every category.
55:15 --> 55:22 [SPEAKER_01]: The one thing that jumps out, which is what's made him much different than that twenty twenty two season, is the walk right.
55:22 --> 55:27 [SPEAKER_01]: He gives up more bass on balls these days than he did in previous years.
55:27 --> 55:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And right now, I believe his walk rate is at a career load, just confirm that it is.
55:33 --> 55:35 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a little bit lower last year.
55:36 --> 55:39 [SPEAKER_01]: similar, but the point being is it's the walks.
55:39 --> 55:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Now it's hard hit rates not in a great spot this year either and that may be the biggest difference, but those two things are what jumps out.
55:46 --> 55:49 [SPEAKER_02]: And the last month is contact rate is shot up too.
55:49 --> 55:51 [SPEAKER_02]: He hasn't been missing quite as many bats.
55:52 --> 56:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Like that's a, that's an issue when your command is a little spotty and you're giving up some more contact and we know he's not great at holding base runners.
56:01 --> 56:05 [SPEAKER_02]: So you combine all of those things that leads to some traffic traffic on the base paths.
56:06 --> 56:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Now I'll say he still has prevented runs among the best in all the baseball, which is great.
56:11 --> 56:13 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's not been perfect.
56:13 --> 56:16 [SPEAKER_02]: It has not been the most comfortable I've felt watching Andre's Moonios.
56:16 --> 56:20 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you, while every day I miss twenty twenty two Andre's Moonios.
56:20 --> 56:23 [SPEAKER_02]: It was literally like the, wow, of relievers.
56:24 --> 56:25 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like the chef's kiss.
56:26 --> 56:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was nuts.
56:28 --> 56:31 [SPEAKER_01]: There was nothing to really pinpoint about Munoz that year.
56:31 --> 56:36 [SPEAKER_01]: That year, his walk rate by baseball savant was in the eighteenth percentile of the league.
56:36 --> 56:37 [SPEAKER_01]: He threw a ton of strikes.
56:38 --> 56:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Ton of strikes, ton of swing and miss.
56:41 --> 56:43 [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't have blow up outings ever.
56:44 --> 56:48 [SPEAKER_02]: And his strike outrate was in the elite elite category.
56:48 --> 56:49 [SPEAKER_02]: It's still very good.
56:49 --> 56:51 [SPEAKER_02]: It is not as good as it was back then.
56:51 --> 56:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you felt when he came in back then, they're not touching him.
56:56 --> 56:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Now it's like,
56:58 --> 57:10 [SPEAKER_02]: When he's on, they're not touching him, but it's not the peak Edwin Diaz peak Andre's moon-yose level of threatening, shut down, overwhelmingness.
57:11 --> 57:19 [SPEAKER_01]: And part of that is because he's added some more pitches between the kick change and the sinker, those run a lot, so it sometimes leads to more baseballs off the plate.
57:19 --> 57:20 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the same idea with Matt Brash.
57:20 --> 57:25 [SPEAKER_01]: His stuff is so disgusting that you can't always perfectly pinpoint where it's going.
57:26 --> 57:28 [SPEAKER_01]: So that is part of what's led to the walk rate.
57:29 --> 57:31 [SPEAKER_01]: The heavier walk rate.
57:32 --> 57:33 [SPEAKER_01]: The hard hit rate?
57:33 --> 57:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's going down a little bit this year in the wrong direction.
57:37 --> 57:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully in the last month, him and Brash both,
57:40 --> 57:42 [SPEAKER_01]: have some more clean innings leading in dock cover because they can really use it.
57:44 --> 57:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And they can help our heart rates out a little bit because I'll tell you what guys I still really struggle in to trust the bullpen.
57:51 --> 57:54 [SPEAKER_02]: It is, it's hard like that finale against the Padre as hell's sweating.
57:55 --> 57:56 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's the whole run.
57:56 --> 57:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Great.
57:56 --> 57:58 [SPEAKER_02]: As soon as Woo comes out.
58:01 --> 58:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
58:02 --> 58:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, Edward Bizarre has done a lot of nice things this year and he deserves a lot of praise.
58:06 --> 58:09 [SPEAKER_01]: The fact he's been used as much as he has and been effective is awesome.
58:10 --> 58:13 [SPEAKER_01]: But I will stand on the same stance that you and I both had all year.
58:14 --> 58:17 [SPEAKER_01]: He should not be throwing in leverage.
58:17 --> 58:22 [SPEAKER_01]: That is, if Edward Vazardo's throwing in leverage, your bullpen's not deep enough.
58:22 --> 58:24 [SPEAKER_01]: He is an awesome middle reliever.
58:24 --> 58:25 [SPEAKER_01]: He should not be a leverage guy.
58:26 --> 58:34 [SPEAKER_02]: And unfortunately, there's no help coming really besides Emerson Hancock who we have not seen throughout the bullpen yet at the big league level.
58:36 --> 58:37 [SPEAKER_01]: He just got called up.
58:37 --> 58:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
58:38 --> 58:41 [SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing for certain we can say is going to help right now.
58:41 --> 58:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
58:42 --> 58:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I love to see it.
58:43 --> 58:46 [SPEAKER_02]: If Emerson puts together like ten outings where he looks unbelievable.
58:47 --> 58:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
58:47 --> 58:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Great.
58:48 --> 58:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Which speaking of the bullpen, we do have one more male bad question.
58:51 --> 58:52 [SPEAKER_01]: It came from Luke.
58:52 --> 58:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we've done this one yet.
58:54 --> 59:01 [SPEAKER_01]: And Luke said for the last male bad question, if you were the front office or he phrases that if you were Jerry depoto, would the bullpen look different tomorrow?
59:01 --> 59:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Who would you call up?
59:02 --> 59:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Who would you send down?
59:04 --> 59:09 [SPEAKER_01]: which on that note, I think Emerson Hancock was the big one and they just got him up here.
59:09 --> 59:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Aside from that, eventually I think putting Bryce Miller in the bullpen would be great.
59:14 --> 59:18 [SPEAKER_01]: If Logan Evans gets healthy, putting him in the bullpen as a bull guy would be great, come postseason time.
59:19 --> 59:26 [SPEAKER_01]: But other than that, I don't think there's any other relievers in the minors that really are going to provide the necessary punch that they need the rest of the year.
59:26 --> 59:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I was looking at some of the AA guys.
59:28 --> 59:33 [SPEAKER_01]: There's guys like Charlie Bylinson who's had some nice spurts, but probably isn't ready yet.
59:33 --> 59:39 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a couple others that you could pinpoint, but there's nobody that just far and away jumps out.
59:41 --> 59:43 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no one in the minor who's better than what you currently have.
59:44 --> 59:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't think.
59:45 --> 59:46 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not making you better.
59:46 --> 59:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
59:47 --> 59:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Like Tyler Cleveland, for example, who is a friend of the pod and a guy who we're certainly rooting for and has had some nice success that he's he's had some nice success and he's been in AA.
59:56 --> 59:58 [SPEAKER_01]: but he's not really striking anybody out right now.
59:58 --> 01:00:05 [SPEAKER_01]: So to be in a big league bullpen, you're gonna have to miss bats, and that's probably something Tyler Cleveland will have to do more of next year before they call him up.
01:00:05 --> 01:00:07 [SPEAKER_01]: So that one's probably not an option this second.
01:00:07 --> 01:00:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Remember the one thing buzz around?
01:00:08 --> 01:00:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Remember Michael Hobbes, the dude with the Rally finger button, passion, there was buzz around him earlier in the year.
01:00:14 --> 01:00:17 [SPEAKER_01]: His whips jumped up pretty high, and I don't think he quite has the strikeout rate either.
01:00:17 --> 01:00:21 [SPEAKER_01]: So same idea, I don't think there's anybody in the minors that really could be called up.
01:00:22 --> 01:00:24 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't trust Gregory Santos.
01:00:25 --> 01:00:25 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
01:00:26 --> 01:00:27 [SPEAKER_02]: If he got healthy, I don't.
01:00:28 --> 01:00:28 [UNKNOWN]: No.
01:00:28 --> 01:00:30 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a twenty twenty six thing at this point.
01:00:30 --> 01:00:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've like we've seen two years of not being able to trust Gregory Santos.
01:00:35 --> 01:00:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Even if somehow he has healthy by seasons and first of all, I know I guess technically since he pitched an April he could be on the postseason roster, but I don't trust him.
01:00:47 --> 01:00:48 [SPEAKER_02]: I've not seen it.
01:00:48 --> 01:00:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you take him over anybody in this bullpen currently?
01:00:53 --> 01:00:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you take him over Vargas?
01:00:57 --> 01:00:58 [SPEAKER_02]: him and Vargas feel pretty similar.
01:01:00 --> 01:01:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:01:01 --> 01:01:02 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's there.
01:01:03 --> 01:01:12 [SPEAKER_01]: But then again, if your idea and the postseason is you're going to have the main five relievers in Muno's brash, fire, Ferguson, Bizarro, and then you get Emerson Hancock in there.
01:01:13 --> 01:01:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Because in the postseason, you'll get nine relievers because you only really need to have four activated starters.
01:01:19 --> 01:01:20 [SPEAKER_01]: So
01:01:22 --> 01:01:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Or well, that's not true because if you have all five activated, one of them will be in the bullpen.
01:01:26 --> 01:01:27 [SPEAKER_01]: So never mind, you'd have eight.
01:01:27 --> 01:01:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I would rather have Emerson Hancock than Gregory Santos in the bullpen.
01:01:31 --> 01:01:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would.
01:01:32 --> 01:01:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I've seen Emerson Hancock strike out a batter this season.
01:01:36 --> 01:01:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah.
01:01:37 --> 01:01:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say, if you have the main five relievers and then you add Emerson and then you add Bryce and then potentially Logan Evans, that could be your whole bullpen.
01:01:49 --> 01:01:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, if it's not going to be Logan Evans and either he's injured or they don't want to put him in the bullpen in the playoffs, then you have to pick one more guy to put back there.
01:01:56 --> 01:01:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:01:57 --> 01:01:58 [SPEAKER_01]: But you're right.
01:01:58 --> 01:02:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Santos probably doesn't replace anybody.
01:02:01 --> 01:02:02 [SPEAKER_01]: No, not at this point.
01:02:02 --> 01:02:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Not when he hasn't pitched all year.
01:02:04 --> 01:02:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
01:02:04 --> 01:02:05 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm good.
01:02:06 --> 01:02:06 [SPEAKER_01]: It's fair.
01:02:07 --> 01:02:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Good.
01:02:07 --> 01:02:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that question, though, is always good batch of them.
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01:02:44 --> 01:02:46 [SPEAKER_01]: For the love of God, do not have another disastrous road trip.
01:02:47 --> 01:02:48 [SPEAKER_01]: They cannot afford it.
01:02:49 --> 01:02:51 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no.
01:02:51 --> 01:02:53 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the tough length one.
01:02:54 --> 01:02:55 [SPEAKER_02]: The next one will actually be tougher.
01:02:56 --> 01:02:57 [SPEAKER_02]: If they fuck up this road trip.
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01:03:02 --> 01:03:04 [SPEAKER_02]: They're playing some not good teams on this trip.
01:03:04 --> 01:03:06 [SPEAKER_02]: There should not be an F. Yeah.
01:03:07 --> 01:03:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'm sure we'll be happy going lucky if they do.
01:03:10 --> 01:03:11 [SPEAKER_03]: God help us.
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