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00:00 --> 00:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to episode number 291 of the Marine Layer podcast.
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01:23 --> 01:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just baseball podcast network recording on Thursday evening September 4th while how is the Mariners road trip going?
01:36 --> 01:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say the same thing that I set on social media on Wednesday night, a really screened on social media.
01:42 --> 01:48 [SPEAKER_00]: There is nothing, and I mean nothing, I can sit here and say that anybody wants to hear.
01:48 --> 01:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody wants to hear any analysis, nobody wants to hear why this is going wrong.
01:52 --> 01:59 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners have gotten completely and utterly fucking dogwalked on this entire road trip, and I will leave it at that.
01:59 --> 02:02 [SPEAKER_00]: That is all people want to hear, and it's the truth, dogwalked.
02:04 --> 02:32 [SPEAKER_01]: one thing I'll say before we open up the mailback is we have a lot of questions we want to get to you guys I wasn't lying when I said mega mailback at the start of the episode we have just about every single topic covered in this mailback and we will get to all of them my promise but here's my perspective on this road trip besides all the things on the field besides the quotes and we'll get into all of it promise you all plenty of time to even the episode the mariners had the opportunity on this road trip
02:32 --> 02:38 [SPEAKER_01]: to bury the Guardians and bury the Tampa Bay Rays in the wild card race.
02:38 --> 02:40 [SPEAKER_01]: All you had to do was probably win two or three in both.
02:40 --> 02:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Instead, the Mariners are now closer to the Rays and the Guardians in the wild card standings than they are to the Houston Astros in the division.
02:49 --> 02:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Think of that food for thought.
02:52 --> 02:53 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a good perspective.
02:55 --> 02:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Dog walked.
02:56 --> 02:57 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's get into the mail bag.
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03:15 --> 03:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's start off with Graham Lyle.
03:17 --> 03:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Graham asks, do you guys think it might be time for woodwork to be held accountable for the state of the bullpen and
03:26 --> 03:27 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't.
03:27 --> 03:34 [SPEAKER_00]: And if the Mariners were to do something like actually get rid of Pete Woodworth, that is a complete scapegoat move.
03:35 --> 03:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Not only does that whole staff love them, not only is he revered, but the problem is not the pitching coach, because Pete Woodworth's also been there when they've been at their best.
03:45 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_00]: No, the answer's no.
03:47 --> 03:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Like last year, when they were at their best.
03:51 --> 03:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I would compare this to one thing if you guys remember when Kevin Cites are was hired.
03:55 --> 03:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Kevin Cites are, in 2023, was the brave sitting coach.
03:59 --> 04:01 [SPEAKER_01]: They had a historic offense.
04:01 --> 04:04 [SPEAKER_01]: They had one of the best offenses in baseball history.
04:05 --> 04:06 [SPEAKER_01]: They set the record for home runs.
04:07 --> 04:08 [SPEAKER_01]: They slugged.
04:08 --> 04:09 [SPEAKER_01]: They hit for average.
04:09 --> 04:09 [SPEAKER_01]: They got on base.
04:10 --> 04:10 [SPEAKER_01]: It was amazing.
04:11 --> 04:19 [SPEAKER_01]: The Braves then had a subpar offensive season in 2024, and the Braves decided not to renew his contract, and that's why he's here in Seattle.
04:19 --> 04:27 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, things happen year to year that franchisees will use as an excuse to move on from somebody, whether or not it's.
04:28 --> 04:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Validated.
04:29 --> 04:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Now the Mariners could move on from him, but that doesn't mean that solves the problem.
04:33 --> 04:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I think really it has more to do with pictures than a test to do with pitching coach because coaches can really only do so much.
04:40 --> 04:46 [SPEAKER_01]: One last thing here from Graham is this the Mariners pictures being overhyped because of where they play at home.
04:49 --> 04:54 [SPEAKER_00]: want to say no, but when two years in a row, the home road splits have looked like this.
04:55 --> 04:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying the answer is yes, but it's hard not to have those thoughts creep into your head.
04:59 --> 05:05 [SPEAKER_00]: In the sense of, are all of these guys, Sam's Brian Wu, T-Mobile merchants?
05:05 --> 05:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope not.
05:06 --> 05:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Logan Gilbert, I'd probably put closer to the Wu category too, because he was good on the road last year, even though he hasn't been this year.
05:12 --> 05:17 [SPEAKER_00]: But man, you just wonder about some of the others, and you look at the drastic differences.
05:21 --> 05:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say no, but it's hard not to have those thoughts at least creep into your head.
05:25 --> 05:29 [SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to know as long as they're mariners, because as long as they're mariners, they're always going to pitch while at home.
05:29 --> 05:34 [SPEAKER_01]: How do they pitch if they go pitch for a different team and don't get to start all these games and team mobile park?
05:34 --> 05:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's how I would think about it.
05:36 --> 05:39 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, next, we've got to rip through a lot.
05:40 --> 05:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Next question comes from Robert, why can't mariners fans have nice things?
05:46 --> 05:47 [SPEAKER_00]: were cursed, Robert.
05:47 --> 05:48 [SPEAKER_00]: You know that.
05:48 --> 05:52 [SPEAKER_00]: If you want us to just validate that for you and say the words, the marriage is a cursed.
05:52 --> 05:54 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why they can't have nice things.
05:55 --> 05:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Where do we think the curse originated?
05:59 --> 06:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, not exciting.
06:02 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_01]: A-Rod, trading grippy.
06:05 --> 06:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Sixth idiom.
06:07 --> 06:09 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a pretty solid place to start.
06:10 --> 06:14 [SPEAKER_01]: That's like a place where a curse would arise, it would.
06:14 --> 06:22 [SPEAKER_01]: The 1969 Seattle pilot certainly had a lot of things have known that could very well resemble a curse.
06:23 --> 06:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
06:23 --> 06:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Go watch the S.B.
06:24 --> 06:25 [SPEAKER_01]: nation documentary.
06:25 --> 06:27 [SPEAKER_01]: People are unfamiliar with what we're referencing right now.
06:27 --> 06:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Six parts on YouTube.
06:29 --> 06:30 [SPEAKER_01]: It's about three hours long.
06:30 --> 06:32 [SPEAKER_01]: It is really, really good.
06:33 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Next question, though, comes from Bryson on Patreon.
06:36 --> 06:39 [SPEAKER_01]: So, boys, what are your thoughts on the Mariners team meeting?
06:39 --> 06:40 [SPEAKER_01]: What does it mean?
06:40 --> 06:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And what does that tell us about the state of the clubhouse?
06:44 --> 06:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Through two days, it looks like this team meeting didn't do a damn thing.
06:48 --> 07:09 [SPEAKER_00]: because not only did the Mariners lose their next two, including an embarrassing fashion on Wednesday, but you had multiple quotes come out after, after that team meeting that just make you sit there and say, geez, that does not sound like people are in the greatest headspace.
07:11 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what they talked about in this team meeting.
07:14 --> 07:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't blame them for trying it because team meetings have worked for teams in the past.
07:18 --> 07:20 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not a guarantee, but it does.
07:20 --> 07:27 [SPEAKER_01]: It brings people together and sometimes what everyone needs is a transparent form, real life example, it's like therapy.
07:28 --> 07:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Some people need therapy to be better.
07:31 --> 07:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is the Mariners Clubhouse version of therapy.
07:35 --> 07:36 [SPEAKER_01]: But through two games you're right.
07:37 --> 07:50 [SPEAKER_01]: What it did was it swung the door open when the guys went on after the game and talked whether it was woo, whether it was JP, whether it was cow, whether it was Kirby the night after, open the door and show us exactly what they're thinking in this state.
07:50 --> 08:04 [SPEAKER_01]: And you can say anything you want, whether it in the clubhouse or whether it to be to the media about fighting and needing to be more resilient and being more locked in and needing to be able to get up off the mat, but if you don't do it, no one believes it.
08:06 --> 08:06 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'll say it again.
08:06 --> 08:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I said this in a reaction this morning on Thursday.
08:10 --> 08:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Mariners have had a lot of quotes come out last few years that they've been missing the place and they haven't been playing a lot of playoff games.
08:16 --> 08:18 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of, a lot of quotes.
08:19 --> 08:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Not a lot of playoff games.
08:22 --> 08:22 [SPEAKER_01]: That's facts.
08:24 --> 08:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And it just doesn't land the same when that happens.
08:27 --> 08:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and I know you said you want to get into the quotes.
08:30 --> 08:35 [SPEAKER_00]: This feels like a chance to take a minute or two here and do it because it's relevant in this question.
08:35 --> 08:40 [SPEAKER_00]: The two that are going to stand out and the two that everybody are talking about are from JP and from Kirby.
08:41 --> 08:42 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you want to go in chronological order,
08:44 --> 08:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Is this with JP Crawford men?
08:45 --> 08:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
08:46 --> 08:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to misconstrue the guys words, but when the guy says and I quote, when we get down, we stay down.
08:53 --> 09:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he means something different, but to a lot of people, what that sounded like is when this team gets down by a few runs, they quit.
09:01 --> 09:03 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't like hearing that.
09:03 --> 09:04 [SPEAKER_00]: That's me.
09:05 --> 09:10 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the, that's just, I mean, that does not sound inspiring.
09:10 --> 09:11 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, maybe that's not what he meant.
09:11 --> 09:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's not there.
09:12 --> 09:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe
09:13 --> 09:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd be sitting here misconstruing as words if I definitively said that's what he meant so I don't want to 100% do that, but that is what it sounded like.
09:20 --> 09:23 [SPEAKER_00]: What's puzzling to me is that hasn't been the case the whole year?
09:24 --> 09:26 [SPEAKER_01]: when they've got down, they haven't just given up.
09:26 --> 09:28 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a reason they got in the position, they're at.
09:28 --> 09:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look at three weeks ago.
09:30 --> 09:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're facing the race at home, where they sweep the race.
09:34 --> 09:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Cowrowly steps up to the plate, down by two runs against the race newly acquired best reliever.
09:40 --> 09:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Did they just give up?
09:43 --> 09:43 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
09:44 --> 09:48 [SPEAKER_01]: But on this road trip and this cold stretch, yeah, they haven't gotten off the mat.
09:49 --> 10:08 [SPEAKER_01]: JP can't do anything about the timing really because he has no idea what's going to happen the next day, but the fact he says that on Tuesday night, and then the Mariners come out on Wednesday and just get throat stomped by the rays, like it's very indicative of everything that's going on right now, and it is a not a good look.
10:09 --> 10:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we don't get off the mat, and then you get pushed down onto the mat less than 24 hours later, and the rays laugh at you.
10:17 --> 10:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you get to Kirby's after that, to where... Yeah, so I mean, kind of pick your poison in terms of these two quotes, because both of them were far, far, far from inspiring.
10:29 --> 10:32 [SPEAKER_00]: But Kirby hits Joshua when that game.
10:33 --> 10:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Later on, the raise retaliate, they hit canzone, because the raise certainly felt like Kirby did that on purpose.
10:38 --> 10:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Kirby says it wasn't on purpose.
10:40 --> 10:42 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what he claims that did not,
10:43 --> 11:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Resinate with the race the race did not feel the same way because as a result they hit somebody on the mariners as a result Well, I just said result twice sorry anyway Then Kirby gets asked about it after the game and Again when when he says Whoops He says it wasn't like he says it wasn't intentional, but when you read it and then you actually hear the audio of it because the audio of it was played on on the radio Here on Thursday morning like it was played on Brock and talk when we were on
11:14 --> 11:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to do this again.
11:16 --> 11:18 [SPEAKER_00]: George Kirby on a really bad start.
11:18 --> 11:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he was not in a great headspace.
11:20 --> 11:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he's frustrated.
11:21 --> 11:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure the whole team's frustrated.
11:23 --> 11:26 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm again going to say, do I know this is what he definitively meant?
11:26 --> 11:29 [SPEAKER_00]: No, and I'm not going to try to misconstru as words.
11:30 --> 11:34 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you are asking how the fan perceives what George Kirby said after that,
11:35 --> 11:49 [SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't sound so great either because by the tone of his voice and the actual quote, it makes it sound like, oh, either, maybe I did do it on purpose, or it wasn't on purpose, but I'm not all that sorry about it.
11:49 --> 11:52 [SPEAKER_00]: The actual quote is here, and it's from Daniel Cramer.
11:52 --> 11:56 [SPEAKER_00]: He said, Garb called it inside heater, I tried to throw it in and I hit him.
11:56 --> 11:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Whoops.
11:57 --> 12:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you can say it's on purpose or whatever, but I mean, I just tried to execute a heater.
12:03 --> 12:09 [SPEAKER_00]: And, and again, though, though, if he had just stopped before saying, whoops, I think people would have just moved past it.
12:09 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I think people would have said, okay, he made a mistake, he hit a guy, it wasn't on purpose, he tried to move past it.
12:14 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_00]: But then when you hear him go, whoops, like it didn't sound very sincere.
12:20 --> 12:31 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying he hit somebody on purpose, but you are leaving the perception more open to the idea that you did by saying it like that.
12:32 --> 12:35 [SPEAKER_01]: The first part you would have just left people open to their own speculation.
12:36 --> 12:38 [SPEAKER_01]: The whoops sounded sarcastic.
12:40 --> 12:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, I'm pissed off and I don't want to be here right now.
12:45 --> 12:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh well, it doesn't sound very good.
12:48 --> 12:55 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is the second time in three years that George has started to game in Tampa and had a bad quote that's going to smack him in the back of the butt.
12:56 --> 12:59 [SPEAKER_01]: And he had a moment that does not reflect very well on him.
12:59 --> 13:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, your team is like struggling and you're getting knocked around and the response down six nothing in the second inning is allegedly to throw at somebody.
13:11 --> 13:20 [SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't the race, the race weren't buying the answer that it wasn't intentional and neither were the empires because they gave out warnings.
13:20 --> 13:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And the race retaliated
13:25 --> 13:27 [SPEAKER_01]: So, like, that's what it is.
13:28 --> 13:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And now again, Kirby, and big games might have had in September,
13:33 --> 13:34 [SPEAKER_01]: twice in three years, down in Tampa.
13:35 --> 13:36 [SPEAKER_00]: And so I'll make this point too.
13:36 --> 13:37 [SPEAKER_00]: This is my last point.
13:37 --> 13:42 [SPEAKER_00]: You'll see right ease off and miss inside arm side and accidentally hit a right-handed bat sometimes.
13:43 --> 13:57 [SPEAKER_00]: But when a right-handed pitcher misses that badly inside glove side to a lefty, that only makes you scratch your head a little bit more because you see that a whole lot less than a righty hitting a righty with a bat ball.
13:57 --> 13:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
14:00 --> 14:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Not a great series down in Tampa, though.
14:02 --> 14:02 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
14:02 --> 14:04 [SPEAKER_01]: No, we're only a few questions in.
14:04 --> 14:11 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, again, that was those two quotes were after that team meeting, not before, but after.
14:13 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't sound like the team eating a cheat very much.
14:15 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_01]: No, not their intended goal.
14:18 --> 14:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's keep rip it along with these questions.
14:19 --> 14:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Next one comes from Patrick on Patreon and Patrick's question is, how do you make sense of the Mariners pitching staff becoming so mortal this season outside of injuries and why are we so damn bad on the road?
14:32 --> 14:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Because T-Mobile Park is the friendly as hitting or pitching environment by far and then you get into other environments you're away from where you're comfortable and the balls are gonna fly more.
14:43 --> 14:44 [SPEAKER_00]: it becomes a problem.
14:46 --> 14:48 [SPEAKER_00]: There's no perfect reasoning for this.
14:48 --> 15:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, we're not scientists and we can't do a deep dive study on why every single one of these individuals really, mentally and physically is so much different on the road than at home.
15:04 --> 15:10 [SPEAKER_00]: But the easiest answer is you are pitching in much, much less pitching friendly environments and it's getting to you.
15:12 --> 15:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Can I use an example?
15:14 --> 15:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you remember the drop off from 2014 to 2015 with the Mariners bullpen specifically?
15:21 --> 15:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It's huge.
15:22 --> 15:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, people have had.
15:23 --> 15:29 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners were on the cover of fucking sports illustrated at the start of 2015 because people thought they were going to win it all that year.
15:29 --> 15:32 [SPEAKER_00]: And a part of the reason was their bullpen was so good, collapsed.
15:32 --> 15:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And then in 2015, when they were the favorites, yeah, they collapsed.
15:37 --> 15:43 [SPEAKER_01]: When you have historic pitching years, expecting them to repeat is a fantasy.
15:44 --> 15:46 [SPEAKER_01]: it's not something you can do.
15:47 --> 15:56 [SPEAKER_01]: This team is much more talented pitching staff-wise than 2014 team was, but that does not mean that you're immune to regression.
15:56 --> 16:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, if there's one thing I would point out, it's just that they were dressed.
16:00 --> 16:07 [SPEAKER_01]: It's impossible to be the best best version of yourself year over year, and it's impossible for an entire pitching staff to do that.
16:08 --> 16:09 [SPEAKER_01]: very difficult.
16:09 --> 16:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Although last year, they were 18th on the road in Yare right now, they are 26th at a regression.
16:16 --> 16:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And at home, at least, they had a 28 ERA as a team.
16:22 --> 16:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Regression.
16:23 --> 16:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
16:24 --> 16:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Next question, Lao comes from Jordan on Patreon.
16:27 --> 16:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And Jordan's question is, what are your opinions on the Framber Valdez situation that happened the other night?
16:37 --> 16:38 [SPEAKER_00]: That's not look good.
16:38 --> 16:45 [SPEAKER_00]: The general consensus seems to be heathed through it his catcher on purpose and gave him a wrong sign to throw him off.
16:45 --> 16:52 [SPEAKER_00]: That was not a good look and Dallas braiding it a nice breakdown on it too on Twitter and on social media.
16:52 --> 16:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And there is a very, very slight nod that Framber gives his catcher Valdez, no, Framber Valdez.
17:00 --> 17:01 [SPEAKER_00]: The Framber gives his catcher
17:03 --> 17:06 [SPEAKER_00]: and as a result, totally cross them up.
17:07 --> 17:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know what gives it a way to me?
17:09 --> 17:26 [SPEAKER_00]: If they've gotten crossed up, and he throws a pitch like that, and hits him, and it clearly was miscommunication, you'd see Framber immediately go, he'd hit his chest if you're watching on YouTube, and put his hand up, he'd say, that's my bad, that's my bad, or they go out to the mountain and talk about it.
17:26 --> 17:32 [SPEAKER_00]: No, as soon as Framber threw that pitch in and hit him, he turned right around with a death stare looking back at second base.
17:32 --> 17:34 [SPEAKER_00]: That did not look like an accident.
17:35 --> 17:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And Frambers done this before, not this specifically, but he's been in a pissy mood sometimes against the Mariners, too.
17:43 --> 17:45 [SPEAKER_01]: who I forget exactly who we threw against.
17:45 --> 17:49 [SPEAKER_01]: But the Mariners, a couple years ago, were lighting them up and he being someone on purpose.
17:50 --> 17:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's Frambers' personality.
17:52 --> 17:54 [SPEAKER_01]: He'll get a little pissy on the mound.
17:54 --> 17:55 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a very good pitcher.
17:55 --> 17:59 [SPEAKER_01]: But he's not prone to, he's not immune to blow-ups.
18:00 --> 18:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the right words for that.
18:01 --> 18:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is the team.
18:02 --> 18:04 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners are letting take this division.
18:04 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, was that reporting credible that I saw after that the clubhouse was pissed at him?
18:10 --> 18:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I, the only reporting I saw after the game was both Framber Valdez and his catcher whose name is Caesar Salazar got taken into the office.
18:18 --> 18:22 [SPEAKER_00]: They were both sat down, Framber apologized, but said it wasn't intentional.
18:23 --> 18:24 [SPEAKER_00]: And there was nothing else after that.
18:24 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_00]: But everybody seems to think that's a total load of, a total load of horseshit, because nobody seems to believe him.
18:30 --> 18:36 [SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's the team the Mariners are letting increase their lead on the division while playing like this.
18:38 --> 18:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, they also don't have e-sac predies, and they didn't have your normal stall year, and how two ways were grasped, and they didn't have pain you for a while, and they didn't have how the air for a while, and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
18:49 --> 18:54 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the worst astros team in like a decade, and they are continuing to grow their lead in the ALS.
18:54 --> 19:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Josh is wondering what kind of, what kind of end of the season needs to happen for Dan to get fired, so that a real coaching step, a real coaching search can happen, and a real manager can be hired.
19:08 --> 19:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, if I, oh my god, I can't even talk.
19:10 --> 19:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'm just ready to kind of go off here.
19:12 --> 19:15 [SPEAKER_00]: If they miss the playoffs, I think there's going to be a lot of things on the table.
19:15 --> 19:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing's for certain.
19:17 --> 19:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying a manager gets canned after one year.
19:19 --> 19:29 [SPEAKER_00]: But, I mean, you have seen the deficiencies plenty that have come with this coaching staff, and we'll specifically this manager.
19:29 --> 19:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe it's not even fair to say coaching staff as a whole, because they're good pieces of it, like Woodworth, like we talked about, like Sitesur, as we talked about, we think.
19:38 --> 19:43 [SPEAKER_00]: But man, like you've just seen so many of the Dan Wilson deficiencies throughout a ton of the year, and we've talked about this a lot.
19:43 --> 19:47 [SPEAKER_00]: You guys, we'll get into a little more Dan Wilson stuff in a bit because there's more questions about it.
19:48 --> 19:51 [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe we'll dive into more of the actual process behind it.
19:52 --> 20:00 [SPEAKER_00]: But in terms of what it would take to see him lose the job, they would have to miss the playoffs.
20:01 --> 20:08 [SPEAKER_00]: and I think Jerry DePoto would have to get fired because I think Jerry and Dan are essentially tied at the hip.
20:09 --> 20:12 [SPEAKER_00]: If Jerry's not fired, he will keep Dan.
20:13 --> 20:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it always seemed to us, Jerry almost hired Dan to save his job, so to speak.
20:17 --> 20:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Because there were questions last year that when service got fired, would depoto go with them.
20:21 --> 20:29 [SPEAKER_00]: But then you hire this quote unquote franchise legend to come in and be the manager and you don't do a hiring process, feels like those two are tied at the hip.
20:29 --> 20:38 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think Jerry would have to go to have Dan go because you'd have to get a new head of the front office in town and then you get to hire his own manager.
20:39 --> 20:58 [SPEAKER_01]: the end of season that would need to happen is they would have to miss the playoffs it's not how you miss the playoffs it's not only were so close it is do you miss the playoffs yes or no if they make the playoffs everyone's coming back for next year whether or not you want it or not ever come back what if they make the playoffs
20:59 --> 21:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely limp in as an 83 win third wild card team and then I'm going to keep using this saying because we've used it plenty already on this episode Get dog walked in Houston in both games.
21:09 --> 21:23 [SPEAKER_01]: They lose nine one and seven to two This is the mariners we're talking about it's going to be a success of the season if they make the playoffs Maybe not for us, but for them it would be they're going to call it a success
21:24 --> 21:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Well Jerry called the season he missed a season he missed the plough to success before, so
21:32 --> 21:35 [SPEAKER_00]: But to be fair, you're at least 180 games.
21:35 --> 21:39 [SPEAKER_00]: This year, they would have 183 and then got boat race out of the playoffs before you could even blink.
21:39 --> 21:44 [SPEAKER_01]: If they're playing playoff games, they will bring everybody back and they'll say it's a successful season.
21:44 --> 21:45 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what they want.
21:46 --> 21:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Just get in.
21:47 --> 21:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, okay, we might get into more, yeah, we might get into more Dan Wolves and stuff later and not might, we will, because other people are playing a question about it.
21:54 --> 21:58 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think it is fair to say Jerry and Dan are basically tied at the hip, right?
21:58 --> 21:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Jerry would have to go for Dan to go.
22:00 --> 22:06 [SPEAKER_01]: If Jerry comes back next year, then Dan Wilson will be your manager next year because he's under contract for next year.
22:06 --> 22:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Regardless of if they fire him or not.
22:08 --> 22:09 [SPEAKER_00]: So.
22:10 --> 22:16 [SPEAKER_00]: And that hire always made it kind of seem like it was a little bit of a human differential.
22:16 --> 22:18 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what it seemed like to at least.
22:19 --> 22:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Next question comes from a search for honor.
22:22 --> 22:23 [SPEAKER_01]: This is on YouTube.
22:24 --> 22:26 [SPEAKER_01]: He says, who on this current
22:31 --> 22:32 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a good question.
22:32 --> 22:33 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, now we're gonna start to really rip through these.
22:33 --> 22:38 [SPEAKER_00]: We gave the Patreon members a little bit of extra time on these questions because we appreciate you guys.
22:38 --> 22:39 [SPEAKER_00]: We love the questions you always send.
22:40 --> 22:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Now on these others, we're really gonna try to rip through.
22:42 --> 22:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, untouchables.
22:43 --> 22:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Hullio Rodriguez, Cal Raleigh, Brian Wu, Logan Gilbert.
22:51 --> 22:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you think some, I mean, maybe that's it.
22:55 --> 22:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna say somebody like Cole Young, but I guess if you really thought that,
23:00 --> 23:02 [SPEAKER_00]: You were going to find some other second base of it out there.
23:02 --> 23:03 [SPEAKER_00]: It's possible.
23:03 --> 23:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there's any other second base when you're really going to find you forgot one.
23:08 --> 23:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, did I. Who my 10 Williamson.
23:15 --> 23:16 [SPEAKER_01]: That is the list.
23:16 --> 23:17 [SPEAKER_01]: The list you just laid it.
23:17 --> 23:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:18 --> 23:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Logan.
23:20 --> 23:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Woo.
23:21 --> 23:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Cal Julio.
23:22 --> 23:22 [SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
23:24 --> 23:25 [SPEAKER_00]: What about the two back end bullpen guys?
23:26 --> 23:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Brashimonios.
23:28 --> 23:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Untouchable.
23:28 --> 23:28 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
23:29 --> 23:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
23:30 --> 23:31 [SPEAKER_01]: most likely off the table.
23:31 --> 23:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, untouchable.
23:33 --> 23:33 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
23:33 --> 23:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
23:34 --> 23:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
23:35 --> 23:37 [SPEAKER_01]: As we've seen, bullpins are frugal.
23:38 --> 23:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
23:39 --> 23:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Fick off.
23:39 --> 23:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Year to year.
23:40 --> 23:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:41 --> 23:42 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
23:43 --> 23:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:43 --> 23:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Next question.
23:44 --> 23:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Is there an honest possibility that the Mariners are cheating at home?
23:47 --> 23:49 [SPEAKER_01]: This comes from Max on YouTube.
23:49 --> 23:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Is there an honest possibility the Mariners are cheating at home?
23:52 --> 23:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Starting to think that this team has gotten desperate and had to resort to drastic measures.
23:57 --> 24:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Here we go, I tweeted out that you guys brought it with these questions and our Patreon members obviously do a great job and they send really thoughtful questions.
24:05 --> 24:14 [SPEAKER_00]: But when we say we talk about 40 questions to read on this episode, it stems from all places of the Earth in the Mariners sphere.
24:14 --> 24:17 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm serious, we are going to answer some wild questions on this show.
24:17 --> 24:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Are the Mariners cheating at home?
24:20 --> 24:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go with no, but you know what?
24:23 --> 24:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's what we always say here on the Great Old Marine Lair pod.
24:25 --> 24:27 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't tell people how to fan.
24:27 --> 24:32 [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to cook up conspiracies, you can believe whatever you want to believe for why this team is winning at home.
24:33 --> 24:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they've been cheating at home.
24:35 --> 24:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say for sure, we have not heard any trash can being at T-Mobile Park.
24:39 --> 24:40 [SPEAKER_01]: That I will say for certain as we're there.
24:41 --> 24:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And we walk through the hallways.
24:43 --> 24:45 [SPEAKER_01]: So there was a trash can, I think we'd see one.
24:45 --> 24:47 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'll say that for certain.
24:47 --> 24:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's a banger of a question, Lyle, ready?
24:50 --> 24:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I know this is one of our favorite types of questions to answer here on this podcast, sarcastically.
24:56 --> 25:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Should the Mariners acquire Trevor Bower for the League minimum this off season?
25:01 --> 25:04 [SPEAKER_00]: And now you made me go to the opposite end of the pendulum.
25:04 --> 25:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I just sat here and said all the great questions that people sent in.
25:09 --> 25:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Look, guys, this is the Mega Mailbag.
25:11 --> 25:16 [SPEAKER_00]: We have sadly gotten this question way, way, way, way, way, way.
25:17 --> 25:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Too many times this year in our DMs in these mail bags.
25:21 --> 25:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Too many places.
25:22 --> 25:24 [SPEAKER_00]: So we are going to answer this one time.
25:24 --> 25:25 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is going to be the last time.
25:25 --> 25:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying all you asked this question, but there are too many people that are that we're going to shut this down.
25:30 --> 25:34 [SPEAKER_00]: No, the Mariners will never, ever, ever, ever be signing Trevor Bauer.
25:34 --> 25:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Not only is he not a good human being, but he is getting torched every other day in Japan of all places.
25:40 --> 25:45 [SPEAKER_00]: And one point this season, he was sent down to the minor leagues in Japan.
25:46 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_00]: He will not be pitching for the Seattle Mariners, ever, and Norse should he ever.
25:51 --> 25:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Well said, Lyle, you got anything to add?
25:56 --> 26:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the Mariners probably have 15 pictures in their organization who are better than Trevor Bauer right now.
26:01 --> 26:04 [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, guys, once they banned Spiderman tack, wasn't that good?
26:04 --> 26:06 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I think.
26:06 --> 26:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's in his upper 30s now.
26:08 --> 26:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
26:09 --> 26:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
26:10 --> 26:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I think mid 30s, but it's the point being I think 36.
26:12 --> 26:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want sounds too old.
26:15 --> 26:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Point being he's not good anymore.
26:17 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_00]: And guys, he is genuine.
26:18 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_00]: And he is.
26:18 --> 26:19 [SPEAKER_00]: He is not.
26:21 --> 26:21 [SPEAKER_00]: good.
26:21 --> 26:23 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no way he's good enough to be worth the headache.
26:24 --> 26:24 [SPEAKER_01]: No way.
26:25 --> 26:30 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not he's not a good person and he is a PR disaster for any team that would even think about bringing him on.
26:31 --> 26:39 [SPEAKER_00]: So we like after all the ridiculous times we've been asked that question we finally answered here I hope that really does it in and people can let it go now.
26:40 --> 26:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Stop asking us.
26:41 --> 26:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for the point.
26:42 --> 26:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, usually we're open to all questions.
26:44 --> 26:45 [SPEAKER_00]: We got to stop with that question.
26:46 --> 26:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for the question, Tyler.
26:48 --> 26:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Next question comes from Thomas.
26:50 --> 26:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Simple, will the Mariners make the playoffs?
26:57 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna say yes.
26:59 --> 27:03 [SPEAKER_00]: None of the other teams around them are that good, but they are not making it easy.
27:03 --> 27:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I do not say yes with whole-hardy confidence, but I do say yes.
27:08 --> 27:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I will say they get in as the third wild card.
27:11 --> 27:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's because the other teams they're fighting with also kind of stink like the Astros kind of stink Royals kind of stink Guardians one of the worst offensive teams in baseball the race when they play someone else I'm sure they'll go back to being the sub five under team.
27:28 --> 27:38 [SPEAKER_01]: They were before the marathon started playing them So yeah, I'll say the mariners make it, but they're not gonna make it very easy and it's not gonna be painless for a mile and I no sure wasn't this week
27:39 --> 27:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Riley on Instagram, Lyle asks, is it time we have a conversation about Edward Bizarro being the best reliever in the bullpen?
27:47 --> 27:49 [SPEAKER_00]: No, he's a good reliever.
27:49 --> 27:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we could have a conversation about Gabe Spire being the best reliever in the bullpen.
27:54 --> 27:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Edward Bizarro has been valuable this year.
27:57 --> 27:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's the best reliever in the bullpen, unfortunately.
28:01 --> 28:21 [SPEAKER_01]: he's solid solid is the way I would put Edward Bazarto at the end of the day he would be the fourth to sixth best reliever in most bullpens and baseball yeah yeah and that's how you should view him right we have some seahawks questions oh good be well a judge with the manager what a dumb
28:23 --> 28:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, must have been from the video you tweeted out.
28:25 --> 28:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I could be during Wednesday's game.
28:28 --> 28:30 [SPEAKER_01]: The questions are, I'll package these two together.
28:31 --> 28:33 [SPEAKER_01]: One comes from Vinnie, will the CX win nine plus games?
28:34 --> 28:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Two comes from a case in Kent, and this is, are the CX winning the Super Bowl this year.
28:41 --> 28:43 [SPEAKER_00]: They will not be winning the Super Bowl unfortunately.
28:44 --> 28:45 [SPEAKER_00]: can they win nine or more games?
28:45 --> 28:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
28:46 --> 28:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think anybody in the national media has given a much of a chance to because the narrative seems to be oh they lost Gino, they lost DK and as a result they're going to be bad.
28:54 --> 28:55 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think they're going to be bad.
28:56 --> 28:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're going to be pretty frisky.
28:57 --> 28:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're going to be competitive.
28:58 --> 29:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Mike McDonald's defense is going to be really good in year two.
29:02 --> 29:09 [SPEAKER_00]: The question is obviously going to be does the offensive line hold up and can Sam Darnold repeat to some level of what he did last year?
29:10 --> 29:12 [SPEAKER_00]: But yes, that'll be in the playoff hunt.
29:12 --> 29:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I believe that.
29:13 --> 29:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they were in the Super Bowl, but if you were to tell me they'll win 10 games this year.
29:18 --> 29:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they're a ten win football team.
29:20 --> 29:24 [SPEAKER_01]: The defense alone is going to be worth ten wins.
29:25 --> 29:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think the offense is just going to be good enough.
29:28 --> 29:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm excited to watch the receivers.
29:31 --> 29:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be really hard for the offense of line to be worse than what they were last year.
29:37 --> 29:38 [SPEAKER_01]: We have that to look forward to.
29:38 --> 29:42 [SPEAKER_00]: And apparently John Benton, the new offense of line coaches, revered.
29:42 --> 29:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently he's supposed to be really good.
29:44 --> 29:46 [SPEAKER_00]: And apparently they felt the presence already in camp.
29:46 --> 29:47 [SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully that really makes a
29:48 --> 29:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Imagine if you went back to this time last year and he sent Ryan Grubbins Scott Hough would be awful.
29:55 --> 29:57 [SPEAKER_01]: That wouldn't really happen to believe you.
29:57 --> 29:58 [SPEAKER_01]: No, not at all.
29:59 --> 29:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Here we are.
29:59 --> 30:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm glad we got to see you all this question.
30:01 --> 30:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for those guys.
30:03 --> 30:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Next question comes from Parker and Parker's question is for you, Lyle, who frustrates you the most on this Mariners team?
30:14 --> 30:18 [SPEAKER_00]: His role has been diminished as of late, but overall for the year, it's been Carlos Vargas.
30:19 --> 30:29 [SPEAKER_00]: You cannot throw a hundred miles an hour and strike out five hitters per night and not have good command, it's maddening at time.
30:29 --> 30:33 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he's a nice dude, but to watch his outings,
30:35 --> 30:42 [SPEAKER_00]: is often extremely maddening, because there's actually points where he looks solid, but then there's points where it's a disaster.
30:42 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_00]: And the amount that Dan Wilson deploys him throughout the year is what makes it doubly maddening.
30:48 --> 30:51 [SPEAKER_00]: If Carlos Vargas was the eighth guy in this bullpen, I wouldn't care.
30:52 --> 30:55 [SPEAKER_00]: It is more about how he's deployed and when he's used, that drives me up a wall.
30:58 --> 31:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I have an answer to this question.
31:00 --> 31:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to be different than yours.
31:02 --> 31:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, because yeah, but you're in this bargis boat, too.
31:05 --> 31:06 [SPEAKER_01]: But I am in the Vargas boat.
31:06 --> 31:08 [SPEAKER_01]: It is very annoying.
31:08 --> 31:10 [SPEAKER_01]: They've got rid of all the position players who really annoying me.
31:11 --> 31:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Dimo was was very frustrating to watch.
31:15 --> 31:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Salano for most of the season was frustrating to watch.
31:19 --> 31:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Who else am I missing?
31:22 --> 31:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the times, hmm, rowdy at times.
31:26 --> 31:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be around he hit dangers.
31:28 --> 31:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Leotie to Varus.
31:30 --> 31:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Leotie to Varus.
31:31 --> 31:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
31:32 --> 31:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's no reason.
31:34 --> 31:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, I should be that bad.
31:35 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, when you talk about flushing $4 million down a drain, that is holding your foot on the flusher and just holding it down with all your might for 60 seconds or more, making sure every dollar figure
31:53 --> 31:59 [SPEAKER_00]: goes through that plumbing system because when you talk about flushing four million dollars down a drain, that is what they did with that.
32:00 --> 32:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious.
32:01 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to check something here really quick.
32:03 --> 32:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Leo D. Tovirus is still the least valuable mariner to play this year and he played in 28 games.
32:12 --> 32:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, flaced valuable for the entire season, foot on the on the flusher lever of the
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33:05 --> 33:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Colton is wondering, Lyle, should we be worried about Josh Nailer's consistency?
33:11 --> 33:16 [SPEAKER_00]: dude, he is not hit a lick on the road with the Mariners.
33:16 --> 33:25 [SPEAKER_00]: The narrative, when you talk about altering narratives in the Mariners verse over the last few weeks, the nailer ones got in a little more interesting.
33:25 --> 33:30 [SPEAKER_00]: It went from you can't let this guy leave town under any circumstance too.
33:31 --> 33:33 [SPEAKER_00]: can this guy put a bat to ball on the road?
33:34 --> 33:35 [SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
33:36 --> 33:41 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, he said he loves hitting a team mobile park and the success is backed it up, but on the road, different ball game.
33:43 --> 33:49 [SPEAKER_01]: And this has been not just a mariner thing for him for the season, he's had an 80WRC plus on the road.
33:50 --> 33:56 [SPEAKER_01]: for his career, it is, let's see.
33:56 --> 34:01 [SPEAKER_01]: On his career, he has had some good years and he's had some average years.
34:01 --> 34:05 [SPEAKER_01]: The last two years on the road though, he's been a below league average hitter.
34:06 --> 34:12 [SPEAKER_01]: And while his peak on the road was 22 and 23, the last two years have plummeted mildly after that.
34:12 --> 34:16 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of been this big swing around the 100 numbers.
34:16 --> 34:18 [SPEAKER_01]: First three seasons he was average.
34:18 --> 34:20 [SPEAKER_01]: The next two seasons he was great.
34:20 --> 34:22 [SPEAKER_01]: And then these two seasons he's been bad.
34:23 --> 34:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, that's puzzling.
34:24 --> 34:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Baseballs a funny game.
34:26 --> 34:30 [SPEAKER_01]: There might not be one rhyme or reason why Josh Newler is not good on the road.
34:30 --> 34:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you couldn't point to something and say this is why he's not hitting.
34:34 --> 34:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Because you can pile all those numbers up.
34:36 --> 34:43 [SPEAKER_01]: You probably get about a 100 WRC plus or a little bit above on the road for his career, which is probably what you want.
34:44 --> 34:45 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
34:46 --> 34:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, this team has somehow
34:50 --> 35:03 [SPEAKER_00]: had a better record when they had rowdy to last Ben Williamson, Dylan Moore, Donovan Solano out there then when you have Naylor and Gino out there, I don't know how that makes any sense in any world, but that's what's happened.
35:04 --> 35:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think that there's some questions along those lines of thinking later on here in this mailback.
35:09 --> 35:10 [SPEAKER_01]: But let's get to the next one.
35:10 --> 35:17 [SPEAKER_01]: This comes from Kai and Kai's wondering to the mayor's switch of the lineup after this shit show series.
35:19 --> 35:21 [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like they should a little bit.
35:21 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I loved the lineup when it got changed and they altered it to have Randy hit lead off, but they haven't changed it one bit at all at any point.
35:31 --> 35:33 [SPEAKER_00]: It feels like at some point you got to try something else.
35:35 --> 35:35 [SPEAKER_01]: What would you change?
35:35 --> 35:38 [SPEAKER_01]: What would we even think to change it to?
35:40 --> 35:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Could you move Julio back to the two spot for a little bit with the ways he's been hitting?
35:46 --> 35:48 [SPEAKER_01]: What if we move Julio back to the lead off spot?
35:49 --> 35:49 [SPEAKER_01]: could do that.
35:51 --> 35:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Just get him up there as much as possible.
35:53 --> 35:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Like they used to do in the past.
35:54 --> 35:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
35:56 --> 35:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of curious here.
35:57 --> 36:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to see what Randy is doing specifically in the lead-off spot.
36:01 --> 36:05 [SPEAKER_01]: See if it'll get there before we get to our next question.
36:06 --> 36:16 [SPEAKER_01]: So, like Randy and the lead-offs spot, I generally thought is a good idea, like overall in my mind it makes sense, but lately he's just been really struggling.
36:16 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, as a lead-off hitter, Randy right now is sitting at a 6.59 OPS.
36:22 --> 36:25 [SPEAKER_01]: maybe you do move him out of the lead out spot and you try something.
36:25 --> 36:34 [SPEAKER_01]: The idea the lineup looks good but the execution of it lately has been awful and they haven't scored and it's not been good enough.
36:34 --> 36:37 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, maybe you do shake it up.
36:37 --> 36:38 [SPEAKER_01]: They did in the past.
36:38 --> 36:40 [SPEAKER_01]: They moved Hulu only stunked down to the six hole.
36:40 --> 36:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe try that with Randy.
36:41 --> 36:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Jorge Polanco, by the way, Lyle, crushing it lately.
36:44 --> 36:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe give move Polo up when the six or seven hole.
36:47 --> 36:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
36:48 --> 36:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Next question comes from Brian.
36:53 --> 36:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Why is the rotation a bunch of wimps?
36:59 --> 37:01 [SPEAKER_00]: We told the people to fire away!
37:01 --> 37:03 [SPEAKER_00]: And they fired away!
37:03 --> 37:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I hate to break it to you, Brian.
37:05 --> 37:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think this rotation is a bunch of wimps.
37:10 --> 37:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they are very dependent on their home ballpark as and right now, and the numbers reflect that.
37:18 --> 37:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you there.
37:19 --> 37:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think relying on a home ballpark makes you a whim.
37:22 --> 37:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I also don't know Brian's definition of a whim.
37:25 --> 37:27 [SPEAKER_01]: He could have a different definition of a whim than URI.
37:29 --> 37:47 [SPEAKER_01]: but I just think they really like pitching in team mobile park and sometimes away from there, their strategy to attack hitters does not work as well, their stuff doesn't play as well, and they get knocked around and overall this year, they just not been as good and sometimes you're not as good, you get hit around.
37:47 --> 37:48 [SPEAKER_01]: That stinks.
37:49 --> 37:51 [SPEAKER_01]: That's how I'd be with it.
37:51 --> 37:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this is a question for you, Lyle.
37:53 --> 37:58 [SPEAKER_01]: This comes from Alexandria on Instagram.
37:58 --> 38:02 [SPEAKER_01]: The question is, does Lyle have a girlfriend?
38:03 --> 38:05 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm married to the game, like Future said.
38:06 --> 38:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Next, it's good to know.
38:08 --> 38:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone got their answer.
38:09 --> 38:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Lyle is an available bachelor, so to all of you listening, go hit him up.
38:17 --> 38:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, next question is an isn't our listenership like a very very heavily slanted toward a male audience?
38:25 --> 38:28 [SPEAKER_01]: It is, but that doesn't mean it's a hundred percent.
38:28 --> 38:28 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not.
38:29 --> 38:30 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a hundred percent.
38:30 --> 38:31 [SPEAKER_01]: No, anyway.
38:31 --> 38:32 [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe there's a chance.
38:33 --> 38:34 [SPEAKER_01]: No, Mary did the game.
38:34 --> 38:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, we can move on.
38:35 --> 38:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, Fiona on Instagram asks, how do other teams compare with missed opportunities with the bases loaded as the Mariners do?
38:46 --> 38:47 [SPEAKER_01]: to the one more time.
38:48 --> 38:54 [SPEAKER_01]: How do other teams in baseball compare to the Mariners when it comes to missed opportunities with the bases loaded?
38:55 --> 38:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, I got a great answer for you on this.
38:58 --> 39:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to Salk for digging this up and talking about it on Thursday here on the radio.
39:02 --> 39:04 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners with Runners in Scoring, oh my god.
39:04 --> 39:06 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners with Runners in Scoring position.
39:07 --> 39:07 [SPEAKER_00]: This season.
39:08 --> 39:27 [SPEAKER_00]: rank 30 in batting average usually we would never use batting average on this podcast but when there's runners in scoring position you need to get hits and drive the runs in runners in scoring position the Mariners have the lowest batting average in major league baseball this season so they answer your question everybody's better than the Mariners that capitalizing on opportunities.
39:28 --> 39:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see if I can get bases loaded specifically but the runners in scoring position is telling 30 yeah
39:38 --> 39:51 [SPEAKER_01]: it is uh... it is yet here we go bases loaded let's check on where the Seattle Mariners rank here so has a team this year they are with the bases loaded to their 19th and average
39:55 --> 40:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not looking at WRC+, I literally refused to look at WRC+, as a team because it straight up lies.
40:00 --> 40:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to tell the, uh, while I examine these further, like the WRC plus difference while the Mariners with 30th and batting average between them and the other teams?
40:10 --> 40:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't it say the white socks are 20% better than the Mariners?
40:14 --> 40:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Worse.
40:15 --> 40:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, 20% worse, I'm sorry.
40:17 --> 40:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, they're worse offensively, but it's like, the Mariners are ranked below the white socks and average.
40:22 --> 40:26 [SPEAKER_01]: The slash lines aren't that much different, but because the Mariners play it, team will park.
40:27 --> 40:30 [SPEAKER_01]: They're 20% better offensively than the white socks.
40:30 --> 40:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Despite the fact, they both just don't score runs with runners in scoring position.
40:35 --> 40:36 [SPEAKER_01]: So how does that make sense?
40:36 --> 40:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, we've said this a lot over the last year.
40:40 --> 40:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm out on Team WRC+.
40:42 --> 40:44 [SPEAKER_00]: For individuals, might be the best stat in baseball.
40:45 --> 40:50 [SPEAKER_00]: For a team, and specifically for your Seattle Mariners, I will not read into it ever anymore.
40:50 --> 40:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Because it lies.
40:51 --> 40:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you said, it straight up tells you lies because as foolish baseball told us when he was on the podcast with us last year.
40:58 --> 40:58 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's right.
40:59 --> 41:02 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't actually have to hit very well in Team Mobile Park.
41:02 --> 41:05 [SPEAKER_00]: for your team WRC plus to be respectable.
41:06 --> 41:09 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners are 15th and League in OPS of the bases loaded.
41:10 --> 41:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So they're a middleing to bottom third team with the bases loaded.
41:15 --> 41:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
41:17 --> 41:18 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
41:18 --> 41:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's keep going.
41:19 --> 41:24 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not great, but could be worse if you take that any sort of positive way.
41:24 --> 41:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Mike is wondering, if Dan Wilson comes back next year as manager, how much of his current staff do you think you will retain or although be significant changes?
41:34 --> 41:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think much would change.
41:37 --> 41:37 [SPEAKER_01]: nothing at all.
41:38 --> 41:39 [SPEAKER_01]: What would you change?
41:39 --> 41:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I guess let me ask you this question.
41:43 --> 41:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Is there going to be a scapegoat?
41:47 --> 41:49 [SPEAKER_00]: There seems to be a lot of that doesn't there.
41:51 --> 41:52 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been a rampant.
41:52 --> 41:53 [SPEAKER_01]: No, there's not going to be a scapegoat.
41:53 --> 41:59 [SPEAKER_01]: If they make the playoffs, Dan Wilson comes back if the Mariners make the playoffs.
42:07 --> 42:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Dan Wilson comes back.
42:09 --> 42:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I think his coaching staff does too.
42:10 --> 42:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they would scapegoat anyone.
42:13 --> 42:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Probably not because what is is Jerry going to come in over him and fire the the the pitching coach with with will not do what I mean a damn problem.
42:23 --> 42:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm not going to do anything to Edgar.
42:25 --> 42:25 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
42:26 --> 42:32 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, no, I don't think I don't think anything would change this other organization runs.
42:36 --> 42:41 [SPEAKER_00]: service like there's a lot of scapegoats, but maybe it's different now with Dan Walton.
42:42 --> 42:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And we just take this from the person out of, we get of Dan Walton.
42:46 --> 42:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what Dan's like behind closed doors, but doesn't seem like the type of guy that's just going to go and fire somebody just because.
42:55 --> 43:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, front offices and managers usually work in lockstap on roster decisions.
43:00 --> 43:12 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the same manager who had something to do with not everything to do, something because it was not nothing, something to do with Dylan Moore hanging around the roster until the end of August.
43:13 --> 43:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, we'll say it again, Dylan Moore, OPS 130, again, Flavtean and pitching for three straight months.
43:20 --> 43:21 [SPEAKER_01]: This is from Mitchell Lyle.
43:21 --> 43:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Dan won't also Dan relate it.
43:23 --> 43:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Dan won't be the only reason the mayor dismissed the playoffs, but he'll be the outlying reason why the mayor dismissed the playoffs.
43:30 --> 43:36 [SPEAKER_00]: True or false false because ultimately what this will boil down to is the players did not play well enough.
43:37 --> 43:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Now I will say I wholeheartedly believe there's a lot of blame to go around in this franchise if they missed the playoffs.
43:43 --> 43:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Dan is certainly going to take blame.
43:45 --> 43:47 [SPEAKER_00]: The owners are certainly going to take
43:50 --> 43:51 [SPEAKER_00]: It will be about the player is not playing well enough.
43:52 --> 43:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Because 100% agree with that.
43:55 --> 43:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the final two months you have a good roster on the field.
43:58 --> 44:00 [SPEAKER_00]: The players do have to play well enough to get in.
44:00 --> 44:02 [SPEAKER_00]: There is other blame to go around.
44:02 --> 44:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't get us wrong.
44:03 --> 44:28 [SPEAKER_01]: but it's on the players most mostly it is on the players and you can say if you're take could be I could hear a take that you to the bottom of your heart believe it is part of the manager's job to motivate the players to play better that's fine but I know players in the clubhouse also show a huge responsibility of doing that and if the leadership in that clubhouse can't do that then that is on the players.
44:29 --> 44:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's only so much the coaching staff can do, whether it comes to hitting better, pitching better, or motivating guys in the clubhouse.
44:36 --> 44:39 [SPEAKER_01]: At some point, the players have to be willing to go do it.
44:39 --> 44:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, how much motivating is going on in that clubhouse from the coaching staff, though, or from Dan will do specifically.
44:46 --> 44:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, again, like, I, what we get from the players, and what's out there publicly is they love playing for Dan Wilson.
44:55 --> 44:57 [SPEAKER_00]: So great, first and foremost,
45:00 --> 45:05 [SPEAKER_00]: But this analogy has been thrown out on Twitter.
45:05 --> 45:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was by our friend Tyden Gonzalez, so just to give him proper credit.
45:08 --> 45:16 [SPEAKER_00]: He tweeted, do they truly love playing for Dan Wilson and get fired up to play for Dan Wilson?
45:17 --> 45:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Or do they view him as a substitute teacher with that type of energy?
45:21 --> 45:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Where it's, do what you want.
45:24 --> 45:39 [SPEAKER_01]: hopefully we'll know the answer to that question one day right because substitutes teachers do not get up and fire up a classroom I can tell you that kids like it because you don't have to do work that day and when you get away with a lot
45:41 --> 45:45 [SPEAKER_01]: And when it gets down to the nitty-gritty, that's where it comes back to the focus aspect.
45:45 --> 45:55 [SPEAKER_01]: And like being totally locked in at this point of the season, if you're not like someone's not holding you accountable to that, then you know, it does reflect on them.
45:55 --> 45:56 [SPEAKER_01]: So the good question.
45:57 --> 46:00 [SPEAKER_01]: This one comes for a next question comes from Gucci Crocs.
46:01 --> 46:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And the question is, what are the chances of keeping Gino and Josh Nailer next year?
46:11 --> 46:12 [SPEAKER_00]: decent chance you keep one.
46:12 --> 46:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know about both.
46:15 --> 46:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I think genos market will be somewhat popular just because of the year he's gonna have.
46:22 --> 46:29 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think anybody's given him some six-year deal, but I think his market in the range of a three-year deal will be popular.
46:30 --> 46:34 [SPEAKER_00]: And the Mariners may not outbid all those teams for that three-year deal.
46:35 --> 46:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Nailer, I think they probably view as the guy most important to bring back, although again, we got to see how he does the rest of the year because he's not hitting right now, especially on the road.
46:45 --> 46:49 [SPEAKER_00]: But the other flip side of that coin is the Mariners don't have a first basement.
46:49 --> 46:49 [SPEAKER_00]: They do.
46:49 --> 46:50 [SPEAKER_01]: What are you doing next year?
46:51 --> 46:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's how you end up rolling out.
46:55 --> 46:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Miles Masterbone need a play for his base.
46:59 --> 47:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Or Ben could go play first.
47:02 --> 47:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he can't do that.
47:02 --> 47:04 [SPEAKER_01]: He's he's Brooks Robinson at third.
47:05 --> 47:06 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a that's a fair point.
47:07 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say there's a 50% chance of signing one of them.
47:12 --> 47:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
47:12 --> 47:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel I feel confident they will make an offer to one of them given their playing here.
47:16 --> 47:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they think that same thing about Randy even if some of the fans aren't fully on board with that.
47:22 --> 47:23 [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.
47:23 --> 47:31 [SPEAKER_01]: But residing Randy, he don't think they would make Randy like a market deal offer for short-term.
47:32 --> 47:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, one, he's still got another year-lapse, so he's not afraid.
47:34 --> 47:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but two, he's a Boris guy.
47:38 --> 47:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying sign an extension.
47:40 --> 47:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying the next off season.
47:41 --> 47:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Depends on what his market is.
47:44 --> 47:44 [SPEAKER_01]: It depends.
47:46 --> 47:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I would think like if they can get a good deal on Randy, they would take it.
47:49 --> 47:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
47:50 --> 47:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it a good player?
47:51 --> 47:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
47:52 --> 48:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and I would ask you who's playing a friend he's not well, they need to go sign caltucker this winter If they sign caltucker, I will wish Randy well wherever he goes.
48:01 --> 48:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, if they sign caltucker this winter you get all three of them Tucker Julio Randy you can keep Randy Do you could you know I wasn't gonna get through this podcast without dropping that sign caltucker sign caltucker sign caltucker all right next There's no caltucker questions by the way Well, that's bad you didn't then then people didn't bring it enough
48:18 --> 48:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Colin wants to know a while.
48:20 --> 48:23 [SPEAKER_01]: What is one place you'd want to travel other than the world's series?
48:27 --> 48:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a lot of these will probably be centered around baseball because I think going to some of these different locations for the WBC would be cool to go to the Tokyo Dome in Japan seems really cool, but if you want me to get away from baseball,
48:39 --> 48:46 [SPEAKER_00]: probably one of these tropical vacation places where you just get to just hang out in these crazy luxury type resorts for a while.
48:46 --> 48:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd probably say if money is not an object and you can go wherever you want, probably like Bora Bora.
48:52 --> 48:54 [SPEAKER_01]: No, get you in an all-inclusive resort.
48:55 --> 48:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, dude.
48:57 --> 49:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen how nice places like Borbora or that water is crystal clear that's perfect for you.
49:04 --> 49:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, be great.
49:06 --> 49:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I have a long list.
49:07 --> 49:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I'll just say Italy to pick one.
49:11 --> 49:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for those who want to peek behind the curtain, I get to hear from TJ on the regular How much he's dying to go to Europe and hasn't been able to go.
49:19 --> 49:39 [SPEAKER_01]: He wants that sort of motivation for this podcast to be a successful as possible So I can find my trips abroad Especially to Europe and I'll then I'll do a podcast from like a deck with a glass of wine in one hand and like a Like facaccia and the other oh From the Amopi coast sure that sounds great great staring out at the ocean.
49:39 --> 49:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
49:41 --> 49:42 [SPEAKER_01]: That sounds perfect.
49:43 --> 49:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, J on Instagram wants to know how much you coaches put in on the to the culture of a team.
49:48 --> 49:51 [SPEAKER_00]: That is a lot.
49:52 --> 50:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't buy into how much coaches really have to do with getting their players in season to like have success or not have success.
50:03 --> 50:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I've never really bought into how much hitting coaches really do or don't do.
50:07 --> 50:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think it's this crazy, crazy,
50:11 --> 50:17 [SPEAKER_00]: roll that they play and that's not a Kevin sites or thing that's just hitting coaches across baseball in general for a long time.
50:18 --> 50:22 [SPEAKER_00]: These players all of their own private swing coaches in the offseason, they're working on all these different things.
50:22 --> 50:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think hitting coaches are like the most invaluable piece of a coaching staff, but in terms of culture, yeah coaches have to set it because if it's bad, your players aren't going to buy in.
50:38 --> 50:39 [SPEAKER_01]: You have to set a standard.
50:40 --> 50:43 [SPEAKER_01]: The culture I think is upheld throughout the season by the players.
50:44 --> 50:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Because if you have leaders who buy into the culture, they hold other players accountable to that level and that standard, and that resonates throughout the clubhouse.
50:54 --> 50:58 [SPEAKER_01]: But the manager say in spring training, sets it then.
50:59 --> 51:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Especially first your manager.
51:01 --> 51:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's how we're doing it.
51:03 --> 51:04 [SPEAKER_01]: This is the line I draw for things.
51:05 --> 51:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Follow it or you're out of here.
51:08 --> 51:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Like that.
51:09 --> 51:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Whether you say it nicely or you say it as blunt as I did, that's what you got to do.
51:13 --> 51:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Because otherwise, if we want to bring back the substitute teacher analogy, people goof off, they don't listen, they don't pay attention.
51:20 --> 51:24 [SPEAKER_01]: The details aren't there, the focus isn't there, and eventually it matters most you fall apart.
51:25 --> 51:27 [SPEAKER_01]: For a lot of this year, I can't say that's how the Mariners looked.
51:28 --> 51:32 [SPEAKER_01]: But we're not referencing the whole year, we're referencing how they looked in the last couple of weeks.
51:32 --> 51:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I would think.
51:33 --> 51:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
51:34 --> 51:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Next question on Instagram.
51:36 --> 51:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
51:37 --> 51:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't read the the the username.
51:40 --> 51:48 [SPEAKER_01]: But the question is, what's wrong with putting genome at DH and start Ben quote, I was crushing it and quote, Williamson.
51:50 --> 51:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, guys, let us just prep us this with this on Ben Williamson.
51:56 --> 51:57 [SPEAKER_00]: He plays a role.
51:58 --> 52:02 [SPEAKER_00]: If he was up here right now, he'd have a role on the team, because he's a really good defender.
52:02 --> 52:07 [SPEAKER_00]: He could come off the bench late, take over for Gino if they're winning in the ninth inning for some defense.
52:07 --> 52:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like he would have a role.
52:09 --> 52:23 [SPEAKER_00]: And Ben Williams had played a nice role for the team, but there's more work for him to do offensively, to become a truly like, like, like, what's the right word?
52:23 --> 52:25 [SPEAKER_00]: A serviceable?
52:26 --> 52:30 [SPEAKER_00]: No, that's not right because he was a serviceable third baseman this year as a rookie.
52:30 --> 52:36 [SPEAKER_00]: He'd like to become a truly, I'm blanking on the word.
52:36 --> 52:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, maybe I'm just too pissed off to have a good vocabulary in my head right now.
52:39 --> 52:44 [SPEAKER_00]: But for Ben Williams and I'll just say this, to be a two and a half win third baseman, three-way third player.
52:44 --> 52:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, three win third baseman.
52:46 --> 52:47 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got to do more with the bat.
52:47 --> 52:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, yes, you could do that.
52:49 --> 52:52 [SPEAKER_00]: You could move Geno to DH and bring Ben back up.
52:53 --> 53:00 [SPEAKER_00]: If you thought that that was going to provide more value, then Gino's doing right now at third base, because Gino's value is pretty much all on his bat at this point.
53:00 --> 53:01 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not playing great defense.
53:01 --> 53:07 [SPEAKER_00]: That being said, I don't think Ben Williamson's bat is in a place where it's good enough to be in this line of every day the way it's structured.
53:08 --> 53:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And when Ben was at the big league level, he was not crushing it.
53:11 --> 53:16 [SPEAKER_01]: He was hitting 250 but he was about 25% below the average as a hitter.
53:16 --> 53:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was not doing well.
53:18 --> 53:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Power wasn't there, walks weren't there, but I will say this.
53:21 --> 53:25 [SPEAKER_01]: In Tacoma right now, he just won Mariners minor league hitter of the month.
53:25 --> 53:27 [SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty good.
53:28 --> 53:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
53:29 --> 53:32 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's clearly doing some things now.
53:32 --> 53:37 [SPEAKER_01]: That is working a little bit better at Triple A. Can't promise it's going to bring it up to the Big League level.
53:39 --> 53:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I do think Ben Williams at some point before the season ends should be on this team because I believe that makes the team better than having Harry Ford up here.
53:47 --> 53:54 [SPEAKER_01]: There are scenarios where having Harry Ford works, but I see more scenarios where having Ben Williams in works a little bit better.
53:54 --> 53:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's just stay on that topic because we have a question on that that we haven't gotten to.
53:58 --> 54:01 [SPEAKER_00]: It's from young switch a 206 on Instagram.
54:01 --> 54:03 [SPEAKER_00]: He says, why is Harry Ford not playing?
54:04 --> 54:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I can't believe we took this long to get to this question.
54:06 --> 54:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, what the fuck?
54:09 --> 54:16 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a blowout on Wednesday and all those starters are still in the game, including a catcher.
54:17 --> 54:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Harry Ford is nowhere to be found.
54:19 --> 54:21 [SPEAKER_00]: What are we doing here?
54:21 --> 54:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
54:26 --> 54:31 [SPEAKER_01]: That is one of the few scenarios where you clearly see playing time for Harry Ford.
54:32 --> 54:34 [SPEAKER_01]: We're walking through this before we started recording.
54:34 --> 54:36 [SPEAKER_01]: One would Harry Ford play.
54:36 --> 54:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
54:37 --> 54:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Number one.
54:38 --> 54:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Harry Ford would play when you have a lineup like you had on Wednesday with Cal D. Hing and Garver Catching.
54:45 --> 54:53 [SPEAKER_01]: So you can, if you want to take Garver out of the game and have a better match up than Garver against a variety where it's been awful.
54:54 --> 54:58 [SPEAKER_01]: you can put Harry Ford in it, catcher and pinch it, a lefty when Garver comes to the plate.
54:58 --> 55:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to give Mike Salco shout out for that because when I said on Wednesday's episode, no room for Harry, he said wrong, there is room for Harry and okay.
55:07 --> 55:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So there is that scenario, one specific scenario where there's room for Harry Ford.
55:12 --> 55:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Unless they want him to start, which again, doesn't really seem like they want him to start and in a playoff chase, you'd probably want your two catchers who caught more starting anyways.
55:22 --> 55:22 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not gonna start,
55:23 --> 55:31 [SPEAKER_01]: And they're not going to give other guys time off because he's on the roster then yeah, I don't know why he's not a wise on the roster doesn't make sense.
55:32 --> 55:34 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't have an answer either.
55:34 --> 55:44 [SPEAKER_00]: That role speaking of Ben Williams and would be much better fitted to have Ben up here right now if you're not going to play Harry for because what you can do with Ben Williams and at the bare minimum.
55:44 --> 56:11 [SPEAKER_00]: is when you are up late in games put him in the game as a defensive replacement for Gino and have him make sure that no balls are going to get by and that the defense is locked down as it can be that if if Harry's not going to play at all Ben Williams and has a much more valuable role to the team right now because to your point like you said this week on other podcast is development important yes is being around the big league clubhouse important yes
56:11 --> 56:18 [SPEAKER_00]: But this year, 2025, September of 2025, is about winning baseball games and trying to win the world series.
56:19 --> 56:26 [SPEAKER_00]: If you have a guy up here just to like sit and observe and that's taking up a roster spot, that's not doing anything.
56:27 --> 56:32 [SPEAKER_01]: and they've already had too many guys on this roster sitting and observing this season.
56:32 --> 56:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, don't need any more.
56:34 --> 56:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Number once, with like all 26 players on the roster to be used.
56:38 --> 56:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because they have a role.
56:40 --> 56:42 [SPEAKER_00]: In this case, 28, but yes.
56:42 --> 56:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
56:43 --> 56:45 [SPEAKER_01]: If you thought that one was bad, listen to this one.
56:45 --> 56:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Brady wants to know, how do you all not commit crimes after watching all of these losses on the road?
56:51 --> 56:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
56:54 --> 56:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Willpower, baby.
56:56 --> 57:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Mental strength like I'm not gonna do it.
57:00 --> 57:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna commit a felony.
57:01 --> 57:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna commit a felony.
57:02 --> 57:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna commit a felony I'm not gonna do it Maritor's are important.
57:08 --> 57:14 [SPEAKER_00]: They're not that important People think questions this week.
57:14 --> 57:19 [SPEAKER_00]: They really did wow How many more do we have by the way?
57:19 --> 57:24 [SPEAKER_01]: We have a few more how many more do you want to do we have Probably too many how many more you want to do
57:25 --> 57:27 [SPEAKER_00]: We're didn't close to an hour.
57:27 --> 57:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, is it five more?
57:29 --> 57:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Or is it more?
57:30 --> 57:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, let's go through five more quickly.
57:32 --> 57:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
57:34 --> 57:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
57:35 --> 57:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, how about this?
57:37 --> 57:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this is a good one.
57:38 --> 57:49 [SPEAKER_01]: If and a big, if the mariners are for sale, and this is from Drop Dead on Twitter, how aggressive you think new owners should be adding money to this roster moving forward.
57:49 --> 57:54 [SPEAKER_01]: And you think new ownership should give Jerry and co a chance to cook with better ingredients.
57:57 --> 58:01 [SPEAKER_00]: It's impossible to answer that question because who's going to be the owner?
58:02 --> 58:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Are they going to hire somebody extremely cheap?
58:04 --> 58:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Who's got no interest in baseball?
58:06 --> 58:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Or is it going to be somebody like Steve Bomber?
58:09 --> 58:14 [SPEAKER_00]: which by the way, that guy has no issues trying to go all out to win.
58:14 --> 58:17 [SPEAKER_00]: And this week, that has been very, very apparent in the news.
58:17 --> 58:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Steve Balmer stops it nothing to try and win for his team.
58:22 --> 58:24 [SPEAKER_00]: All the more reason, and maybe this has fucked up.
58:24 --> 58:27 [SPEAKER_00]: When I saw that Steve Balmer thing this week with Kauai,
58:28 --> 58:31 [SPEAKER_00]: That honestly only made me like who he is even more.
58:31 --> 58:34 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, wow, that guy wants to win.
58:37 --> 58:43 [SPEAKER_01]: If I'm guessing a blanket owner, I'm going to say yes, they should be adding money onto the roster.
58:43 --> 58:45 [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't need to be the world's largest amount.
58:45 --> 58:48 [SPEAKER_01]: They just need to make moves to go win games.
58:48 --> 58:49 [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
58:49 --> 58:50 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what you need to do.
58:50 --> 58:57 [SPEAKER_01]: as long as you're sitting there and you're trying to win baseball games every off season by investing in your roster and make winning moves.
58:57 --> 58:58 [SPEAKER_01]: That's all we want.
58:58 --> 58:59 [SPEAKER_01]: That's literally all we want.
58:59 --> 59:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Should they give Jerry and company a chance to cook with better ingredients?
59:03 --> 59:11 [SPEAKER_01]: No, if there's a new owner, I'm assuming they want their own guys and they're not going to let Jerry and Co go around.
59:11 --> 59:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Especially they miss the playoffs.
59:12 --> 59:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Again,
59:13 --> 59:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's a reason if they miss the playoffs, even with all the good moves they made at the deadline, if they miss again, whether or not they deserve it or not, maybe not.
59:22 --> 59:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe not, because they made the right moves.
59:25 --> 59:27 [SPEAKER_01]: They probably are just going to go with other people.
59:28 --> 59:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Be one playoff appearance in 10 years.
59:30 --> 59:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and just fall out to sell that to any of them.
59:32 --> 59:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And then in that playoff appearance, you won no games in the ALDS, right?
59:37 --> 59:38 [SPEAKER_00]: You won who wild card series.
59:40 --> 59:42 [SPEAKER_01]: This next question allows right up your alley.
59:42 --> 59:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Hate to be the one asking hard-hitting questions, but Lyle, do you ever throw banana slices onto your PB and Jays?
59:49 --> 59:49 [SPEAKER_01]: If not, you should.
59:49 --> 59:51 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a good question.
59:51 --> 59:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
59:52 --> 59:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I do like bananas.
59:53 --> 59:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I usually do not put them on my peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
59:56 --> 59:59 [SPEAKER_00]: PB and Jays are reserved for PB and Jays.
59:59 --> 01:00:02 [SPEAKER_00]: But what I eat bananas, yes.
01:00:02 --> 01:00:09 [SPEAKER_00]: What I consider a peanut butter and banana sandwiches, sandwich at some point, if maybe I'm at a jelly one day, or I really, really am in the mood
01:00:10 --> 01:00:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Shake it up.
01:00:11 --> 01:00:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
01:00:11 --> 01:00:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I like peanut butter and banana sandwiches are good, people eat those.
01:00:15 --> 01:00:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I just usually keep PB&Js for PB&Js.
01:00:18 --> 01:00:20 [SPEAKER_00]: When I say I look forward to my PB&J every day, I do.
01:00:22 --> 01:00:34 [SPEAKER_01]: bananas are so subtle though like you just you get a nice little texture you get little hint of banana but it wouldn't be it wouldn't ruin the sandwich it would still taste just like a PB and J. So it's peanut butter and jelly and bananas.
01:00:35 --> 01:00:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:00:35 --> 01:00:39 [SPEAKER_00]: All right maybe maybe I'll give that a shot at some point just just for you guys.
01:00:39 --> 01:00:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it would be maybe you would never turn back.
01:00:42 --> 01:00:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you used to go to Costco and start buying up all the bananas so you can keep up with your one sandwich a day.
01:00:48 --> 01:00:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
01:00:48 --> 01:00:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe you maybe you
01:00:51 --> 01:00:51 [SPEAKER_01]: at some point.
01:00:51 --> 01:00:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh-oh.
01:00:52 --> 01:00:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Don't tell me.
01:00:53 --> 01:00:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't make me look Stevenson.
01:00:57 --> 01:01:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Next question comes from full berry, so three more questions including this one.
01:01:02 --> 01:01:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Didn't, uh, did, I'll frame it as this.
01:01:05 --> 01:01:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Good vibes kill the clubhouse resilience.
01:01:08 --> 01:01:08 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I did.
01:01:08 --> 01:01:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Did they lose their edge?
01:01:12 --> 01:01:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I, when questions came from all spheres of the Mariners verse today, they really did.
01:01:16 --> 01:01:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Did the, did good vibes only ruin the clubhouse?
01:01:19 --> 01:01:24 [SPEAKER_00]: No, having Gino back and saying good vibes only did not ruin the clubhouse.
01:01:24 --> 01:01:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, if, if you were sitting here looking for our answer to be, yes, and have some hot take on that, I think you,
01:01:31 --> 01:01:33 [SPEAKER_00]: for this one came to the wrong place.
01:01:34 --> 01:01:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Gino being back has done nothing but good things for the mariners and in that clubhouse, it's just that they're not playing well right now.
01:01:40 --> 01:01:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think good vibes only ruin the edge.
01:01:44 --> 01:01:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Even if it did, I don't know how we'd prove it.
01:01:46 --> 01:01:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you can see the win loss record.
01:01:50 --> 01:01:52 [SPEAKER_01]: but things are just coincidences a lot.
01:01:53 --> 01:01:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Also, there's a difference between correlation and causation.
01:01:57 --> 01:02:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Also, let's say the level of satisfaction you were at with edge on the Mariners was in the right place before the trade deadline.
01:02:07 --> 01:02:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Even if you believe that by getting genome, somehow good vibes only takes away some of your edge.
01:02:14 --> 01:02:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't it level out by having Josh Nailer here of all people?
01:02:17 --> 01:02:21 [SPEAKER_00]: The big grumper who looks satisfied zero percent of the time?
01:02:22 --> 01:02:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Shouldn't it level out?
01:02:23 --> 01:02:24 [SPEAKER_01]: You think?
01:02:24 --> 01:02:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, nice little balance.
01:02:26 --> 01:02:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know what I mean?
01:02:27 --> 01:02:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:02:28 --> 01:02:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Next question, this is a good one.
01:02:30 --> 01:02:41 [SPEAKER_01]: This comes from Jefferson on Twitter, and his question is, if the M's miss the playoffs is a time for a total youth movement in Seattle, although then Calen Julion's select pitchers is a time to just retool every position.
01:02:41 --> 01:02:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Ryan Bliss, Cole Young, Leo Rivas, Ben Williamson, Samod Taylor, then you have Cole Emerson and Johnny Farmello and on and on and on.
01:02:50 --> 01:02:50 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you think?
01:02:51 --> 01:02:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you'd see a youth movement with bliss and Rivas and Samod Taylor.
01:02:58 --> 01:03:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Would you eventually here see Colta Emerson and Lazzmont has in 2026?
01:03:03 --> 01:03:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what Coli Young already be here?
01:03:05 --> 01:03:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, could for a mellow be here in 2027?
01:03:09 --> 01:03:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that'd be a youth movement.
01:03:12 --> 01:03:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it would be with some odd Taylor and Leah Reeves, but I think you could see some of these prospects really start to get their avenue to playing time if that's the route they went.
01:03:23 --> 01:03:27 [SPEAKER_01]: The only way I'm okay with that scenario as excited as I am for those guys.
01:03:28 --> 01:03:55 [SPEAKER_01]: is if they fire everybody that's it let's the only reason cuz like a new front office comes in it's like I don't want any of these guys I want my own guys in here understandable totally get it but doing a youth movement as fun as that could be to see these guys up at the big league level is waving the white flag at next year and I have no interest in doing that we've waved the white flag enough 59 seasons five playoff appearances plenty of white flags
01:03:58 --> 01:03:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
01:03:59 --> 01:04:02 [SPEAKER_00]: What is our final question in the mega mail bag?
01:04:04 --> 01:04:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's do a finish up with Gino 1.
01:04:07 --> 01:04:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Was Gino just overperforming in Arizona or is he severely underperforming now?
01:04:13 --> 01:04:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, his last couple weeks have been better.
01:04:15 --> 01:04:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say he was hitting really well at Chase Field, a hitter friendly park, and not great everywhere else.
01:04:23 --> 01:04:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he, again, I think he's been better in the last couple weeks, and I think the move was great when they made it, and it will be great forever.
01:04:31 --> 01:04:37 [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have to give up a crazy package to go get them, but did he benefit from hitting a chase field?
01:04:37 --> 01:04:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
01:04:37 --> 01:04:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
01:04:38 --> 01:04:40 [SPEAKER_00]: His numbers were a lot better there.
01:04:40 --> 01:04:41 [SPEAKER_01]: So you'd say overperforming.
01:04:44 --> 01:04:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a little bit.
01:04:46 --> 01:04:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, I think I tell you.
01:04:49 --> 01:04:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he was going to have a good year regardless.
01:04:52 --> 01:04:54 [SPEAKER_00]: But sure, Chase Field helped.
01:04:54 --> 01:04:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me look at his subon page.
01:04:56 --> 01:05:09 [SPEAKER_01]: He would have hit, so if he's overperforming, say he would have hit for the season closer to his 2022 total, where he's around, let's say 34 home runs.
01:05:09 --> 01:05:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:05:11 --> 01:05:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Instead of perhaps he finishes this year at 47.
01:05:16 --> 01:05:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Although when you look at the expected home runs by park, that's what I was going to look at for Geno.
01:05:22 --> 01:05:51 [SPEAKER_00]: had he played in Seattle all year, it says he would hit 43 if he had played in what's another hitters park city field with the mats he'd be at 40 and what's not to say it's cheap home runs it's just the overall hitting environment how he sees the ball how the ball moves out of the pitcher's hand I don't think it's as simple as just looking at the parks yeah that's probably a distance perspective yes I'm sure playing in chase field helped I also think a hundred out of a hundred times they still should have made that
01:05:53 --> 01:06:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the reality of it is his hottest stretch of the years behind him and was in Arizona and the Mariners just wouldn't get that and that's fine cuz guys have that but just you You understood that when you traded for him and we brought that up and talked about that on here When the idea of trading for him came up.
01:06:11 --> 01:06:11 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a streaky guy.
01:06:11 --> 01:06:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe his hottest streak at or had already happened That's why his values so high There it's all fair Well
01:06:20 --> 01:06:21 [SPEAKER_01]: That was quite the male bag.
01:06:21 --> 01:06:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I must say that is a record.
01:06:23 --> 01:06:27 [SPEAKER_01]: That probably won't be broken unless you know the Mariners hit rock bottom again.
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