Lyle and TJ react to the Mariners 10th win in a row Tuesday night, Cal Raleigh breaking Mickey Mantle's record, Dominic Canzone's three-homer game, and more (2:30). They then take a look at the updated wildcard picture (26:52) and wrap up with Colt Emerson's promotion to Tacoma (33:37).
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00:00 --> 00:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to episode number 296 of the Marine layer of podcasts.
00:03 --> 00:06 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners have a well of a game one in Kansas City.
00:06 --> 00:08 [SPEAKER_03]: They've now won 10 in a row.
00:08 --> 00:10 [SPEAKER_03]: Cal has number 55 and 56.
00:10 --> 00:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Tom can zone with a three-home run game.
00:13 --> 00:16 [SPEAKER_03]: So many things happening in game one will break it all down.
00:17 --> 00:21 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about the updated playoff picture in the American League and Colt Emerson getting promoted to AAA.
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00:45 --> 00:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get it rolling.
01:00 --> 01:05 [SPEAKER_03]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast, part of the Just Baseball Podcast Network.
01:05 --> 01:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Recording on Tuesday evening, September 16th, post-game of the Mariners win over the Royals, and despite while I'm, I had a slight bit of PTSD.
01:17 --> 01:20 [SPEAKER_03]: in the 7th and 8th inning of that baseball game given the last three years in Kansas City.
01:21 --> 01:32 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners played probably one of the most fun games of the season from a storyline perspective at a time that I think everyone enjoys the most right now is that fair to say.
01:34 --> 01:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, dude, there's not going to be many bad things to say on this podcast, considering the stories are winning ten and a row, play off picture, Colt Emerson just going off and continuing to do so.
01:45 --> 01:46 [SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be an awesome pod.
01:46 --> 01:52 [SPEAKER_02]: The only thing we could say is yes, in the eighth inning, it got a little bit dicey and you had to go get Gabe Spire for an out.
01:52 --> 01:53 [SPEAKER_02]: And we know how previous
01:54 --> 02:17 [SPEAKER_02]: history has gone in that ballpark the last three years like you just said aside from that that is the one one negative statement you could possibly make on this pod we just got it out of the way and aside from that to the emzer fucking rolling they are absolutely steam rolling people right now and it's awesome they have been winning baseball games by by average five runs a game
02:23 --> 02:26 [SPEAKER_03]: This is one of the most locked in we've seen this Mariners team.
02:27 --> 02:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Certainly, since we've started doing this podcast, this does a few, feel a little bit August 2023 with how this offense is swinging right now.
02:36 --> 02:43 [SPEAKER_03]: But the difference between this offense and that offense is that when the Mariners need to win the game the most, you hear people say it all the time.
02:43 --> 02:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Games in September, matter more when you see the playoff picture there, hear solks say it every single morning.
02:49 --> 02:56 [SPEAKER_03]: When you're staring at that playoff picture and you see that magic number going down, the Mariners magic number now is right at eight.
02:57 --> 02:59 [SPEAKER_03]: and you're like, okay, we gotta go win these games.
02:59 --> 03:00 [SPEAKER_03]: We have to go do it.
03:00 --> 03:03 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners are slamming their foot on the gas.
03:04 --> 03:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Slamming it.
03:05 --> 03:09 [SPEAKER_03]: The brick is falling on the gas and the car is going way over the speed limit.
03:09 --> 03:14 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners have total control over it and they are just kicking the crap out of teams.
03:15 --> 03:15 [SPEAKER_02]: How about this?
03:16 --> 03:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Last three road games.
03:18 --> 03:19 [SPEAKER_02]: It's scored 40 runs.
03:19 --> 03:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Spind Zone.
03:21 --> 03:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Road merchants.
03:22 --> 03:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Question mark.
03:23 --> 03:24 [SPEAKER_02]: No longer.
03:25 --> 03:52 [SPEAKER_03]: no are they actually are they actually road merchants is what i'm saying are they actually better on the road well here's another spend zone they could just be the greatest team of all time if they had just had an etsy which blessed them at the beginning of the season they'd be undefeated yeah did the oh one mariners would be shaken their this at the sky who needs to win the sixty percent of games jerry depoto said in the press conference couple years ago
03:55 --> 04:10 [SPEAKER_03]: uh... i don't think he said sixty well in the statement after the the magical number he said sometimes you went sixty sometimes you went fifty we said he'd never one sixty but instead of winning sixty which you'd never done he's going to go on and win a thousand instead
04:12 --> 04:12 [SPEAKER_03]: That made.
04:12 --> 04:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's that's way too complicated.
04:15 --> 04:21 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners are fucking killing teams right now and it's great to see and that is a borderline playoff team.
04:21 --> 04:28 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners just did that to the Royal said Michael Walker starting tonight looking to find some way to claw back into this playoff race.
04:28 --> 04:31 [SPEAKER_03]: They're mostly done given how the Royal's last road trip went.
04:32 --> 04:51 [SPEAKER_03]: but so you would think this series would be sort of a last gas effort for them to claw their way back into this thing and the mariner's just stepped on them right away it was seven nothing in the third inning cow had both of his home runs within the first three innings it was it was insane is crazy I'll say it the royals are done
04:52 --> 04:53 [SPEAKER_02]: There's seven games back for sure.
04:54 --> 04:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was all but done even before the first game of the series, but they're done.
04:58 --> 05:00 [SPEAKER_02]: They're now under 500.
05:00 --> 05:02 [SPEAKER_02]: There's seven games back in the final wild card spot.
05:02 --> 05:07 [SPEAKER_02]: And when you really look at their team, it's a club that's built on their starting pitching.
05:07 --> 05:17 [SPEAKER_02]: In some ways, when everything goes right, the Royals and Mariners are built somewhat similarly, where they have what's supposed to be a really good rotation and one really young superstar,
05:18 --> 05:37 [SPEAKER_02]: in the middle of the field now the Mariners have two stars in the middle of the field now between Calon Julio but the comp I'm really making is Julio and Bobby regardless the royals are often built on pitching setlugo out boobitch done for the year you've got Cole raisins returning tomorrow when the episode comes out
05:38 --> 05:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he is anyway.
05:40 --> 05:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why you're so worried because he's really good.
05:43 --> 06:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, let's let's let's say that But point being the Rangers or the Rangers the Royals have been decimated by injuries in that rotation They have had a ton of guys on the shelf and they just don't have much left there There's there is only so much they can do in this rotation at this point with a guy like Waka who by the way It's been really good But he gets sheldonite.
06:02 --> 06:03 [SPEAKER_02]: They don't have much left.
06:03 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_02]: I think they're done
06:05 --> 06:06 [SPEAKER_03]: which is why the Mariners now need to.
06:07 --> 06:11 [SPEAKER_03]: After watching what I watched tonight, the Mariners need to go out and they need to win the next two games on this series.
06:12 --> 06:13 [SPEAKER_03]: At least win one.
06:13 --> 06:20 [SPEAKER_03]: At least yeah, winning one should probably be the minimum, but after what I watched tonight and how this team is playing, why can't they win the next two games?
06:21 --> 06:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they can.
06:22 --> 06:25 [SPEAKER_03]: They've done this with Gino and his coldest streak of the season.
06:27 --> 06:47 [SPEAKER_03]: And it literally has not mattered at all because there's been so many other contributors around the lineup, Dom can zone, Jorge Polanco, Josh Nailer, Julio, didn't even hear Julio's name really at all tonight because it was the guy who just round him hitting the ball over the fence, which is funny because Julio still had two hits and he had the double to get things started early in the game.
06:48 --> 06:50 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's how great this game went.
06:50 --> 06:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Julio had two hits had
06:53 --> 06:58 [SPEAKER_02]: two runs driven in by his own right in the first inning and we're barely going to mention who you're on this pot.
06:59 --> 07:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's mention the guy hitting right next to him in the lineup.
07:02 --> 07:05 [SPEAKER_03]: How hyped were you of watching Cal Rowley tonight?
07:05 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_03]: That was as fitting away for him to break that record of Mickey Manels and to tie Ken Griffey juniors as I think
07:14 --> 07:16 [SPEAKER_03]: there has been in history.
07:16 --> 07:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Cal Rally right now has five games in his career from remembering off the top my head.
07:21 --> 07:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Five games in his career where he has homered from both sides of the plate.
07:25 --> 07:28 [SPEAKER_03]: He uses that to get number 55 and 56 on Tuesday night.
07:29 --> 07:33 [SPEAKER_03]: He's now I think a third of the way to the major league record in that category.
07:33 --> 07:36 [SPEAKER_03]: The major league record is 14 mark to share a whole to it.
07:38 --> 07:52 [SPEAKER_03]: But the way Cal's smack in some home runs and the way he's done at this season adds his 10th, multi-home run game of the season against 10 different teams, the only player ever to do that in baseball history, in a season full of first for Cal.
07:52 --> 07:54 [SPEAKER_03]: That right there was very fitting.
07:56 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know how much else we're even supposed to say at this point.
08:00 --> 08:03 [SPEAKER_02]: For every good reason, we've had this conversation now,
08:04 --> 08:10 [SPEAKER_02]: 100 times throughout the course of the year, how much more new content can we give people about Cal?
08:10 --> 08:12 [SPEAKER_02]: It's absolutely incredible.
08:13 --> 08:16 [SPEAKER_02]: He is putting together arguably the greatest season a catcher has ever had.
08:17 --> 08:21 [SPEAKER_02]: He is now arguably putting together the greatest season a Seattle mariner has ever had.
08:22 --> 08:31 [SPEAKER_02]: and he does it from both sides of the plate and continues to bring an awesome glove in amazing club, amazing presence behind the plate every night.
08:31 --> 08:32 [SPEAKER_02]: He does it from both ways.
08:33 --> 08:36 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not exactly show Hayo Tani ask, but there is a little bit of that to it.
08:38 --> 08:41 [SPEAKER_02]: The what he does from both ways and hitting from both sides is incredible.
08:42 --> 08:49 [SPEAKER_03]: I think in the off season, once we get Cal season in total, we should dive and see if we can pick the best season of Mariners history, offensively.
08:50 --> 08:51 [SPEAKER_03]: off the top of your head.
08:52 --> 08:55 [SPEAKER_03]: The seasons are Alex Rodriguez.
08:55 --> 08:56 [SPEAKER_03]: I would think in 96.
08:57 --> 08:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Gryffian 97 and 98.
08:58 --> 09:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, it's your 101.
09:03 --> 09:05 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a different type of success, but he's still in there.
09:07 --> 09:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Because he's a lot of offensive players, not including pitchers.
09:09 --> 09:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
09:10 --> 09:15 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying each row's different in the way of obviously he didn't do it with the slog, but he is absolutely in the conversation.
09:16 --> 09:16 [SPEAKER_03]: He won the opportunity.
09:17 --> 09:22 [SPEAKER_03]: And unfortunately, I don't think we could put an Edgar season in there because he doesn't play defense.
09:24 --> 09:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
09:24 --> 09:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Probably not.
09:24 --> 09:27 [SPEAKER_03]: But we could decide that in the off season.
09:27 --> 09:33 [SPEAKER_02]: But if you're just counting the bat, I don't know if there's one that stands, it would probably be 95 to the honest.
09:35 --> 09:37 [SPEAKER_02]: He had a 185 OPS plus that year.
09:37 --> 09:46 [SPEAKER_02]: He led baseball in OPS plus in OPS and on base, hit 356 and won a batting title, that one could be in there.
09:46 --> 09:48 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it's, it's those guys.
09:49 --> 09:52 [SPEAKER_02]: This is who Cal is now in territory with, in Mariners' war.
09:53 --> 09:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Junior, A-Rod, Edgar, Echiro.
09:58 --> 10:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you want me to just read off all of the records he is now either set or is going to set the season.
10:04 --> 10:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Gao Rally now has the most homeruns ever in a season by catcher.
10:08 --> 10:11 [SPEAKER_03]: He has the most homeruns in a season while catching.
10:12 --> 10:16 [SPEAKER_03]: different, like how many homeruns you hit while you're actually starting a catcher like you was tonight.
10:17 --> 10:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Most homeruns ever buy a switch hitter.
10:19 --> 10:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Most homer-tied most homeruns ever in a season by a mariner.
10:22 --> 10:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Most multi-home run games in a season while playing catcher.
10:25 --> 10:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Most multi-home run games in a season as a mariner and most multi-home run games in a season as a switch hitter on top of having a multi-home run game against 10 different teams as I mentioned
10:42 --> 10:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And he is one home run away from hitting more home runs in a season than any Seattle Mariner ever standing alone and doing it by the way because he's currently tied.
10:51 --> 10:59 [SPEAKER_03]: He got hit in the neck tonight, you know, foul ball go off his neck and it didn't any still managed to to do this.
11:00 --> 11:02 [SPEAKER_03]: He's he really is incredible.
11:02 --> 11:05 [SPEAKER_03]: And then you look at him after the game to I mean, he is the consummate
11:07 --> 11:17 [SPEAKER_03]: Dude for the Mariners like he's he's great PR like this man when he he did root sports interview after and he did mlb network interview after Despite catching the entire game.
11:17 --> 11:18 [SPEAKER_03]: He looked exhausted.
11:18 --> 11:24 [SPEAKER_03]: He was sweating, but he did both interviews fine with a smile on his face Well, yeah, I have smile.
11:24 --> 11:34 [SPEAKER_02]: I got to tell you what by the way picking up a little bit of cows vibes that he's given off from Sunday and then from Tuesday doing both those post game interviews
11:35 --> 11:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me preface this by saying I absolutely understand why this is.
11:39 --> 11:46 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think Cal's kind of getting sick and tired of doing of these post-game interviews because one, you just look at him.
11:46 --> 11:48 [SPEAKER_02]: He looks like he's exhausted.
11:48 --> 11:51 [SPEAKER_02]: But also, what is he supposed to say at this point?
11:52 --> 11:57 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a guy that very, very much wants the focus to be on the team, the team is a whole and not him.
11:57 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_02]: And then every single one of these interviews because he keeps breaking records, it's talking about you, Cal, talk about you, talk about you, and you can tell just like, he's got a great...
12:06 --> 12:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's just like I've done this so many times.
12:08 --> 12:09 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to keep doing this.
12:10 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously he's going to do it because he knows it's incredibly important and it's incredible.
12:14 --> 12:19 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's important to be really good PR for the team and for this season, but
12:20 --> 12:34 [SPEAKER_02]: If you were to have him take some truth serum or him and Logan were to go up against that polygraph test again like they didn't spring training, I bet you cow would admit that he's getting sick and tired of doing all these post game interviews because he looks like he does not want to keep doing them.
12:35 --> 12:36 [SPEAKER_03]: He gave some decent answers to him.
12:36 --> 12:37 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll be that worked though.
12:38 --> 12:38 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought.
12:38 --> 12:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's actually, and it's last, his last answer, he actually explained a little bit.
12:43 --> 12:48 [SPEAKER_03]: The quote was, my name should not be out there with Ken Garfield Jr.
12:48 --> 12:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Mickey Manel that just doesn't feel real, which is about as much detail as you'll usually get out of Cal, and that sort of standard interview.
12:56 --> 12:56 [SPEAKER_03]: practice.
12:57 --> 12:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
12:58 --> 12:58 [SPEAKER_03]: But I thought that was good.
12:59 --> 13:00 [SPEAKER_03]: So maybe it was the fact that Jake P.V.
13:00 --> 13:10 [SPEAKER_03]: and Yonder Lanzo and one other X player we're talking to him instead of just a normal broadcast or like our friend, right at him.
13:10 --> 13:11 [SPEAKER_03]: That could.
13:11 --> 13:14 [SPEAKER_02]: That could be, but I just think in general.
13:15 --> 13:18 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, he just doesn't wanna talk about himself that much.
13:18 --> 13:20 [SPEAKER_02]: I get it, so yeah.
13:20 --> 13:22 [SPEAKER_03]: And he's seeing what else can I say?
13:22 --> 13:25 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you guys just replay the interview from last week.
13:26 --> 13:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, everybody's a little bit different.
13:28 --> 13:34 [SPEAKER_02]: For example, when we were interviewing Mani Machado for both Mbanner, who by the way, I loved and idolized as a kid.
13:34 --> 13:36 [SPEAKER_02]: He was my favorite player by far that wasn't a Mariner.
13:37 --> 13:39 [SPEAKER_02]: But he says to us, we're doing a both Mbanner trivia thing with them,
13:41 --> 13:44 [SPEAKER_02]: The guy he made the crazy play on early in his career in Yankee Stadium will ease crews.
13:44 --> 13:46 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, yeah, we used crews.
13:47 --> 13:48 [SPEAKER_02]: We still keep in touch a little bit.
13:48 --> 13:50 [SPEAKER_02]: He told his kid when I was standing right there.
13:50 --> 13:52 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the best to ever do it right there.
13:55 --> 13:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Man he has no problem talking about himself.
13:58 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Cow would never say that.
14:00 --> 14:01 [SPEAKER_02]: So everybody's just a little bit different.
14:03 --> 14:06 [SPEAKER_03]: So happy for Cal and we're gonna watch in the rest of the series.
14:06 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_03]: He's gonna potentially have some big homeruns coming up against the Astros later this week We'll get into that series here in a second.
14:12 --> 14:16 [SPEAKER_03]: I do want to quiz you while we're on the subject of multi-home run games Lyle.
14:16 --> 14:23 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it would be a disservice if we didn't talk a little bit about Dom Ken Zones game I'm gonna start this off with this since 2000.
14:24 --> 14:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Can you give me Mariners with a three-home run game?
14:29 --> 14:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I missed this on the broadcast.
14:31 --> 14:31 [SPEAKER_02]: There's two.
14:32 --> 14:34 [SPEAKER_02]: It's Dom and somebody else, right?
14:34 --> 14:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
14:35 --> 14:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Since 2000, there's five.
14:36 --> 14:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what did I hear that Dom and Ty Cobb or an category on their own for?
14:43 --> 14:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Five hits and three homers, I think.
14:45 --> 14:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, except that's not right because Kurt did that this year.
14:52 --> 14:52 [UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
14:52 --> 14:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Kurt said by what you have to go back and watch the broadcast.
14:54 --> 14:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I thought I heard there.
14:57 --> 15:00 [SPEAKER_03]: They gave some record where they said five for five with three home runs.
15:01 --> 15:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe Kurt didn't go five for five.
15:03 --> 15:04 [SPEAKER_02]: I can pull up that game log.
15:05 --> 15:10 [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm pretty sure in that game where he hit three, uh, where he hit four homers.
15:10 --> 15:11 [SPEAKER_02]: He had five hits.
15:12 --> 15:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Right?
15:13 --> 15:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Did he?
15:15 --> 15:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he had six hits.
15:15 --> 15:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was six for six with four homers.
15:17 --> 15:18 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.
15:18 --> 15:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
15:18 --> 15:19 [SPEAKER_03]: I must have been a different record then.
15:20 --> 15:22 [SPEAKER_03]: But I did hear Ty Cobb get mentioned on there.
15:22 --> 15:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
15:22 --> 15:24 [SPEAKER_03]: But Ty Cobb is not included in the stack.
15:24 --> 15:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Because he did not play for the Mariners.
15:25 --> 15:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
15:26 --> 15:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
15:26 --> 15:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Three home run games with the Mariners.
15:27 --> 15:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I heard Dan was in there.
15:31 --> 15:32 [SPEAKER_02]: No, since 2000.
15:32 --> 15:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, since 2000.
15:33 --> 15:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Seeger doing it at some point. 2019.
15:46 --> 15:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Did Edgar do it in 2000 or beyond?
15:49 --> 15:50 [SPEAKER_02]: He did not know.
15:50 --> 15:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I figured probably not.
15:52 --> 15:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, by Cameron.
15:53 --> 15:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, my Cameron is the forehome run game.
15:55 --> 15:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
15:58 --> 16:00 [SPEAKER_03]: One of these is in 2010 and the other was in 2000.
16:00 --> 16:02 [SPEAKER_03]: They were blended.
16:02 --> 16:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Bullpen banner.
16:03 --> 16:04 [SPEAKER_02]: We're blended.
16:04 --> 16:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Bullpen banner in the Marine Lairpot here are all in one.
16:07 --> 16:07 [SPEAKER_02]: What else we got?
16:07 --> 16:08 [SPEAKER_02]: 2000 in 2000.
16:08 --> 16:09 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
16:09 --> 16:12 [SPEAKER_03]: There's someone listening to screaming at you right now.
16:12 --> 16:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Probably.
16:14 --> 16:18 [SPEAKER_03]: 2010 to that team sucked yeah, I know that's gonna be the harder one to get 2.
16:19 --> 16:22 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean You have you this guy's an intercircle mariner.
16:23 --> 16:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, uh, erud.
16:24 --> 16:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
16:25 --> 16:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and then 2010 a name we know or is it just absolutely out of the clouds.
16:30 --> 16:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you know this name.
16:32 --> 16:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Russell, Brandon.
16:33 --> 16:34 [SPEAKER_03]: No, not Russell, Brandon.
16:35 --> 16:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Chunkier.
16:39 --> 16:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Jack-Cost?
16:41 --> 16:42 [SPEAKER_02]: No, not Jack-Cost.
16:43 --> 16:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
16:44 --> 16:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, Miguel O'Liva?
16:46 --> 16:48 [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's Jose Lopez.
16:48 --> 16:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, all right, it's pretty good list.
16:52 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a pretty good list for Dom.
16:53 --> 16:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Good for him.
16:54 --> 16:58 [SPEAKER_03]: He's up to a 144 WRC plus sitting over 300 now.
16:59 --> 17:03 [SPEAKER_03]: And he, he just looks good.
17:03 --> 17:08 [SPEAKER_03]: He based, if you go look on his fan graph page, you'll look, he's across the board.
17:08 --> 17:10 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not surprising this season.
17:11 --> 17:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Across the board is contact rates have increased in an every single category.
17:16 --> 17:18 [SPEAKER_03]: He's drastically improved across the board this year.
17:19 --> 17:29 [SPEAKER_03]: and despite having a bit of a power slump over the last month and a half, he'd gone the last month and a half without hitting a home run essentially comes out and hits three tanks tonight.
17:30 --> 17:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Very happy for him.
17:31 --> 17:42 [SPEAKER_03]: This is the guy that got essentially benched for LeODy to Varus, who is as of right now, the least valuable player still in major league baseball this season, despite playing 40 games.
17:47 --> 17:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
17:48 --> 17:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
17:50 --> 17:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Not great.
17:50 --> 17:54 [SPEAKER_03]: And Dom responded to that by putting up a season everyone wanted to see from him.
17:54 --> 17:55 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
17:56 --> 17:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Hell of a night.
17:57 --> 17:57 [SPEAKER_02]: And you know what?
17:58 --> 18:05 [SPEAKER_02]: For all those reasons, I'm not going to sit here and say that hell of a job by Dom upping his trade value this winter after the Mariners sign Kyle Tucker.
18:05 --> 18:06 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to do that.
18:06 --> 18:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Instead, we're going to talk about the 5-hit night that Dom had in the middle of the Mariners postseason portion, say hell of a night.
18:12 --> 18:14 [SPEAKER_02]: He is absolutely killing it for this team right now.
18:14 --> 18:16 [SPEAKER_02]: We're not going to talk about Kyle Tucker yet.
18:17 --> 18:22 [SPEAKER_03]: But since you still said it, means that you still think it could be true.
18:22 --> 18:25 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I said it's not, I'm not gonna talk about that.
18:25 --> 18:27 [SPEAKER_03]: So... Okay, okay.
18:27 --> 18:28 [SPEAKER_03]: But I don't believe you.
18:29 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm calling Cap on that.
18:30 --> 18:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, everybody's up for their own interpretation.
18:36 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Just listen to this slash line from Dom right now.
18:38 --> 18:42 [SPEAKER_03]: 21% strikeout rate 8% walk rate, 349 on base percentage is WRC plus up to 144 this season.
18:48 --> 19:13 [SPEAKER_02]: guys hit in seventh in your lineup he's but he in all tier is this the second half that he's had a really since he got called up has been pretty remarkable hard hit rates way up this year strikeout rates down it's only at about 21% which is a big increase from where he's been in years past seriously hitting with authority truly like squaring up the baseball barreling up the baseball
19:14 --> 19:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And like you said, he's managed to raise his WRC plus to 44% above league average.
19:20 --> 19:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you said, this is a guy that wasn't even really thought about to be on the opening day roster this year.
19:26 --> 19:28 [SPEAKER_02]: He got reassigned to minorly camp early.
19:29 --> 19:33 [SPEAKER_02]: And now he's playing a vital role during the most important time of the year.
19:34 --> 19:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Funny how storylines change.
19:35 --> 19:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we set it back in July or so and we can continue to say it.
19:38 --> 19:41 [SPEAKER_02]: It's it's the success story of the year for the Mariners.
19:42 --> 19:45 [SPEAKER_03]: These are the type of guys that can make the difference in the post season.
19:46 --> 19:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Like once you get there, you have all your stars, you have the guys that have contributed for you all season long like Julio, and Cal, and Polanco.
19:57 --> 19:59 [SPEAKER_03]: But what about the guys who came in strong in the second half?
20:00 --> 20:04 [SPEAKER_03]: What about different profiles, different ages certainly?
20:11 --> 20:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Evan Carter since the Rangers won the World Series has not been all that great, a little better this season, but for the most part has shown the struggles that a young prospect would have.
20:23 --> 20:26 [SPEAKER_03]: He was what loud 20 during that World Series run.
20:27 --> 20:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and he looked like he had a chance to be a perennial all-star with what he showed in the final month and a half of 2023, but then he fell off a cliff and did not perform last year.
20:38 --> 20:42 [SPEAKER_03]: It's been a good chunk of time in the miners last year and this year, I think as well.
20:44 --> 20:47 [SPEAKER_03]: But for that Ranger's team, he was very very valuable.
20:47 --> 20:49 [SPEAKER_03]: They would not have won the World Series without him.
20:50 --> 20:53 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying Dom is going to make be the world series hero for the Mariners.
20:53 --> 21:02 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't promise that at least, but what Dom is doing, hitting at the bottom of the Mariners lineup, a guy they were really high on when they traded for him, things didn't work out right away.
21:03 --> 21:07 [SPEAKER_03]: He didn't have a spot on this roster, but all of a sudden things sort of fall into place for him.
21:08 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_03]: He's gotten an opportunity and he's taken full advantage of it.
21:12 --> 21:13 [SPEAKER_03]: And it makes this already deep lineup.
21:14 --> 21:15 [SPEAKER_03]: That much deeper.
21:15 --> 21:17 [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't just have to be the top six.
21:18 --> 21:19 [SPEAKER_03]: It can be the top seven.
21:19 --> 21:20 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be one through nine.
21:21 --> 21:22 [SPEAKER_03]: However, you want to structure it.
21:25 --> 21:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that lineup was about as good as you can get on Tuesday in terms of what the Mariners have.
21:30 --> 21:34 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a perfect defensive roster because it involves Jorge Polanco playing second base.
21:34 --> 21:36 [SPEAKER_02]: But Dom in the age box.
21:36 --> 21:38 [SPEAKER_01]: We saw that.
21:38 --> 21:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
21:39 --> 21:39 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
21:39 --> 21:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, this is a positive episode.
21:40 --> 21:43 [SPEAKER_02]: We don't need to talk about JP and Polo making a couple errors.
21:43 --> 21:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it got a little dicey in the eighth.
21:45 --> 21:46 [SPEAKER_02]: But anyway,
21:47 --> 21:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Polo, it's second, Robles and Wright, Dom D.H.ing.
21:50 --> 21:53 [SPEAKER_02]: That's probably about as good as a lineup as you can throw out there.
21:54 --> 21:57 [SPEAKER_03]: And it gives you just that let another lefty bat to put in the lineup.
21:58 --> 22:05 [SPEAKER_03]: When one of your lefty bats is bats is essentially on, it seems like coal Jung's on the development list right now.
22:06 --> 22:06 [SPEAKER_03]: What it feels like.
22:06 --> 22:09 [SPEAKER_03]: The major leagues don't have a development list.
22:09 --> 22:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Kind of feels like that with coal right now for some of the struggles he's going through.
22:13 --> 22:21 [SPEAKER_03]: It helps when you have someone like Dom with a righty on the mound, a lefty you feel so comfortable plugging into that lineup and raking.
22:21 --> 22:22 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's exactly what he's done.
22:23 --> 22:27 [SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, he, he, he, he hit a home run off a lefty tonight.
22:27 --> 22:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
22:29 --> 22:29 [SPEAKER_03]: That's pretty good.
22:31 --> 22:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Really good.
22:32 --> 22:34 [SPEAKER_03]: That's my piece on Dom Kanzo and who's awesome tonight.
22:34 --> 22:36 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if there's much else to say about the game.
22:37 --> 22:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Those two store lines Mariners win 10 in a row.
22:39 --> 22:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's the story.
22:41 --> 22:45 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna say my piece on Cole Ragan's now since you're so worried on what for Wednesday.
22:46 --> 22:48 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna tell all the listeners this right now.
22:49 --> 22:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Do not be worried about Cole Ragan's coming back on Wednesday.
22:53 --> 22:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Clip it.
22:54 --> 22:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Put me onto it or roast the shit out of me if Cole Ragan's pitches a perfect game tomorrow.
23:00 --> 23:03 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm saying not be worried about Cole Ragan's.
23:06 --> 23:07 [SPEAKER_03]: You can explain your reasoning.
23:08 --> 23:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Cole Ragan's if you guys have missed out on the season has an era over five now the reason about reason for that is he's been out most of the season he pitched into into may for the guardians things were not going well so they I'm I'm trying to suit the I don't think they put him on the IL while
23:32 --> 23:44 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think they put him yeah he's been he's been out for three and a half months he's been on the IL but he made so he made a start in AA at the end of May so yes he has been on the IL for most of this time But it was weird.
23:44 --> 24:00 [SPEAKER_03]: He starts a game on the 16th for the royals then two weeks later He makes a AA start and gets blown up and then he is back in the big leagues a week later Makes a start gets blown up then misses all the time until now for the last three months
24:02 --> 24:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I, he might have taken a short IELstent, I think in the middle of May.
24:05 --> 24:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Regardless, he is not pitched very much since May 16th.
24:09 --> 24:12 [SPEAKER_03]: That was the last consecutive start he made.
24:12 --> 24:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, since then, can I say one quick thing?
24:16 --> 24:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, is he or I might be over five?
24:18 --> 24:20 [SPEAKER_02]: All of his expected start with a two.
24:21 --> 24:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Fibre starts with a two, X-E-R-A starts with a two, X-Fibre starts with a two.
24:25 --> 24:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Not only was he injured, but he's probably been a little bit unlucky this year.
24:29 --> 24:30 [SPEAKER_03]: He's really good.
24:30 --> 24:36 [SPEAKER_03]: So the, the, the, the stamping reason why I think Marin or Fanchion not be worried about Cole Ragan tomorrow.
24:36 --> 24:42 [SPEAKER_03]: First of all, as I mentioned, the Mariners are averaging eight runs a game on this Wednesday.
24:42 --> 24:43 [SPEAKER_03]: They're pretty locked in at the plate.
24:44 --> 24:46 [SPEAKER_03]: I think Cole Ragan's might have a bit of a tough time tomorrow.
24:46 --> 24:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Number two, Cole Ragan's pitch count has been built up to a grand total of 56 pitches, which he threw in AAA earlier this week.
24:59 --> 24:59 [SPEAKER_03]: on the 12th.
25:00 --> 25:04 [SPEAKER_03]: That was the high mark of pitches he's thrown in three months.
25:06 --> 25:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Even if he's pitching well, this man is not going to make it through the fourth inning.
25:11 --> 25:14 [SPEAKER_03]: He'll make it through four exactly, and then be done.
25:14 --> 25:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, what if it's pitch count 70, then it could be a normal five inning starter, if it goes well.
25:21 --> 25:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm not, I'm not letting my guard down on Cole Reagan who's overall the struggles the Mariners have had on the road in the second half, especially over the last two road trips.
25:30 --> 25:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Who's the one tough arm they faced?
25:32 --> 25:34 [SPEAKER_02]: I will really good lefty and they got blanked, Chris Ale.
25:35 --> 25:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Four innings.
25:38 --> 25:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Fine, I'm not going to be negative Nancy.
25:39 --> 25:41 [SPEAKER_02]: They're playing way too well for me to do that.
25:41 --> 25:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Never mind.
25:42 --> 25:42 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
25:43 --> 25:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Fine.
25:43 --> 25:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Mariners are going to light up Cole Reagan tomorrow.
25:45 --> 25:45 [SPEAKER_02]: How about that?
25:46 --> 25:47 [SPEAKER_03]: I like the idea of that.
25:47 --> 25:48 [SPEAKER_02]: You heard it here first.
25:49 --> 26:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Also, every time we've done this this year, or at least I've done it, where I just play the worrying game how an ace is gonna pitch and the mariners are gonna get blanked, it seems to never happen, whether it's scuba, whether it's crochet, whether it's Hunter Brown, whoever, it seems to never happen.
26:06 --> 26:09 [SPEAKER_02]: So maybe the mariners will just keep that going and the story behind your story.
26:10 --> 26:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, I was going to say the bigger story tomorrow.
26:13 --> 26:15 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it's the Mariners line up facing coal riggins.
26:15 --> 26:19 [SPEAKER_03]: It's their price miller not to pitch the way he pitched last time he pitched in Kansas City.
26:20 --> 26:21 [SPEAKER_03]: That would make me feel very good.
26:22 --> 26:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Better than anything the Mariners line up could do against coal riggins.
26:27 --> 26:44 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, remember last, if you remember last year, Bryce Miller in Kansas City, Laboured his way through five innings and had one of those, that was the game they blew, that was an eight-one lead, he really labored his way through five, let the royals back in the game, and they ended up coming back in wedding.
26:45 --> 26:49 [SPEAKER_03]: I would love to see the Bryce Miller on the road we've seen here in the last couple.
26:50 --> 26:52 [SPEAKER_03]: That'd be great, that'd be awesome.
26:53 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, we're going to get to play off, picture, update, and a little bit of cold time or something in a second.
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27:36 --> 27:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's update everyone on the playoff picture as we sit here on Tuesday night.
27:39 --> 27:42 [SPEAKER_03]: So the Astros and Rangers have gone final.
27:43 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_03]: The Astros won the first two games of that series.
27:45 --> 27:48 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners are now four and a half games up on the Rangers.
27:48 --> 27:50 [SPEAKER_03]: They're half a game up on the Astros.
27:51 --> 27:57 [SPEAKER_03]: In terms of the Guardians and Tigers, the Guardians won that game in extra innings.
27:57 --> 28:02 [SPEAKER_03]: The Guardians are the team to look at now because they have passed Texas in the
28:04 --> 28:06 [SPEAKER_03]: the Rangers here in the wild card standings.
28:07 --> 28:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Why that pertains to the Mariners is that's where the Mariners magic number is.
28:11 --> 28:14 [SPEAKER_03]: So the Mariners are four and a half games ahead of the Rangers.
28:14 --> 28:22 [SPEAKER_03]: There are three and a half games or I guess technically four and a half due to the tiebreaker over the Guardians as they currently sit right now.
28:23 --> 28:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Any takeaways from what you've seen?
28:27 --> 28:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the Mariners are technically four and a half up on the Rangers, right?
28:32 --> 28:35 [SPEAKER_03]: But it's one-and-a-half games, but then five-and-a-half with the library.
28:35 --> 28:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I was gonna say, so let's call it that.
28:37 --> 28:41 [SPEAKER_02]: It's really five-and-a-half games are up on the Rangers, which is a lot with 11 to play.
28:41 --> 28:45 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a big gap that the Mariners are very, very conveniently created for themselves.
28:46 --> 28:49 [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, I think that's what jumps out, man.
28:49 --> 28:53 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to let my guard down, and no Mariners fans should, because we know what it's like to be a Mariners fan.
28:53 --> 28:55 [SPEAKER_02]: We've lived and breathed at our whole lives.
28:55 --> 28:55 [SPEAKER_02]: But,
28:57 --> 29:08 [SPEAKER_02]: when you're essentially five and a half up on Texas and you're three and a half essentially or four and a half essentially up on Cleveland, you gotta be feeling pretty good.
29:09 --> 29:13 [SPEAKER_02]: The Mariners Magic number now sits at eight with 11 games to play.
29:13 --> 29:15 [SPEAKER_02]: They are in a really good spot.
29:15 --> 29:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I know we talked about how badly we wanna see the Astros win this series just to absolutely wipe out the Rangers.
29:23 --> 29:32 [SPEAKER_02]: But now that there's so much cushion, it feels like it's a potential time to pivot where you could root for the Rangers to win the final game of the series here on Wednesday.
29:32 --> 29:40 [SPEAKER_02]: And you could root for Cleveland to keep winning because they'd beat the Tigers, who by the way, the other part of this playoff picture we still have to get to.
29:41 --> 29:45 [SPEAKER_02]: The Mariners are only two games back in the Tigers for the number two seed, two games.
29:45 --> 29:47 [SPEAKER_02]: And the Mariners have the tiebreaker.
29:47 --> 29:48 [SPEAKER_02]: So two games is a true two games.
29:49 --> 29:51 [SPEAKER_02]: If they make those two games up, they're the second seed.
29:54 --> 29:55 [SPEAKER_03]: I guess you pitch us for the Rangers tomorrow.
29:57 --> 29:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Jacob DeGron, baby.
29:59 --> 30:09 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's funny in the span of two days, I think my opinion shifted on this, where now I'm okay with seeing both Texas and Cleveland win.
30:10 --> 30:19 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's, I think most of that has to do with the Mariners have given themselves enough separation in the last two days by winning 10 games in a row.
30:20 --> 30:43 [SPEAKER_03]: that okay you got the cushion you needed now let's try and advance on the teams either in front of you are just behind you in the astros and tigers because that's where it's out right now you either get more cushion in terms of the playoff bubble or you get closer to the top teams at this rate you don't get both for how these series have played out I'm with you I think I'd be okay with the the Rangers winning tomorrow
30:43 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_03]: So the Rangers win tomorrow, you also win tomorrow and be correct and so I'm not worried about it all while.
30:49 --> 30:53 [SPEAKER_03]: And the Rangers would stay five and a half games back of you.
30:53 --> 30:56 [SPEAKER_03]: The Astros would be in a game and a half behind you.
30:56 --> 30:59 [SPEAKER_03]: With three to play coming up this weekend, you would it.
30:59 --> 31:01 [SPEAKER_03]: And then the Guardians beat the Tigers.
31:01 --> 31:08 [SPEAKER_03]: The Tigers would be only one game in front of you and you'd still have your four and a half game lead on Cleveland with 10 left to play.
31:09 --> 31:12 [SPEAKER_03]: That condenses the picture a lot.
31:12 --> 31:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, and there's another storyline from today.
31:14 --> 31:17 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners also passed the Red Sox in the standings as well.
31:18 --> 31:21 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's another team of cushion between you and the cutoff line.
31:23 --> 31:31 [SPEAKER_02]: do now the red socks feel like they're free falling a little bit they're four and six in their last ten but they're not playing the same level of baseball they were playing just a couple weeks ago.
31:32 --> 31:36 [SPEAKER_03]: It is remarkable how I said I was the most worried about playing in the playoffs.
31:36 --> 31:39 [SPEAKER_02]: So was I, but it is pretty remarkable how fast the stuff changes.
31:41 --> 31:48 [SPEAKER_03]: and there are two and a half games, the Guardians are just as hot as the Mariners are right now from a win streak perspective.
31:49 --> 31:50 [SPEAKER_03]: They're 91 and they're last 10.
31:50 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Mariners are 10 and 0 and they're last 10.
31:53 --> 31:55 [SPEAKER_03]: The Red Sox have another bad series and a half.
31:55 --> 31:56 [SPEAKER_03]: The Guardians could pass them.
31:58 --> 31:59 [SPEAKER_01]: That's dangerous for them.
32:00 --> 32:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Be really dangerous.
32:02 --> 32:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I am glad the Guardians ended up winning that game here on Tuesday night though and they found a way to pick it up and win it in extra innings because they were a game away and out away from clinching it just in nine innings only to give up a home run to carry carpenter which obviously I was furious about because yeah I want to see the Mariners get to see it I want to see him move up I want to see him pass the tigers.
32:23 --> 32:35 [SPEAKER_02]: When Carrie Carpenter hit that home run, I was getting real and see to potentially tweet out as somebody with no bias in this hashtag free Emmanuel Class A, after seen Carrie Carpenter hit that home run.
32:35 --> 32:39 [SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to tweet out free Emmanuel Class A, but it's what I call into the commissioner's office.
32:40 --> 32:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
32:40 --> 32:41 [SPEAKER_02]: But hey, you know what?
32:41 --> 32:41 [SPEAKER_02]: It's all right.
32:42 --> 32:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Guardians still won.
32:42 --> 32:43 [SPEAKER_03]: So all as well.
32:48 --> 32:55 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm betting if a manual class I was out there tonight carry carbon or doesn't hit that on our bet that's a That is a fair point.
32:55 --> 32:55 [SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.
32:56 --> 33:05 [SPEAKER_03]: So two games within two games of the Tigers have game up on the Astros Let's see there are two also two games behind let me do some math here.
33:06 --> 33:10 [SPEAKER_03]: They are Whoa one game behind the Yankees
33:12 --> 33:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, there's now a world that even if you didn't win the West, there's still a world you could host that wild card series at home.
33:21 --> 33:24 [SPEAKER_03]: But that would put you against the blue jays, would it not?
33:25 --> 33:26 [SPEAKER_02]: No, the blue jers are going to get a buy.
33:27 --> 33:31 [SPEAKER_03]: I know, but if you won that series instead of facing, yeah, trying to remember it.
33:32 --> 33:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, the blue jays play the winner of the five four instead of three six.
33:36 --> 33:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
33:38 --> 33:38 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I would do.
33:39 --> 33:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
33:39 --> 33:42 [SPEAKER_03]: But you get home field regardless, whether you won the division or not.
33:43 --> 33:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
33:44 --> 33:44 [SPEAKER_03]: So that's important.
33:44 --> 34:00 [SPEAKER_03]: That's this win streak has done a lot for the Mariners chances of not just making the playoffs, but playing games at Timo will park this postseason where as we pointed out earlier today, and we talked about on Monday's podcast episode, they have gone in their last 23 games.
34:00 --> 34:02 [SPEAKER_03]: They've won 20 of them at home.
34:02 --> 34:09 [SPEAKER_03]: You got to feel pretty good about playing postseason games inside that ballpark, given how you've played since they all start break.
34:10 --> 34:13 [SPEAKER_03]: So this stretch has been very important.
34:13 --> 34:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, great.
34:14 --> 34:15 [SPEAKER_02]: So go do it.
34:15 --> 34:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Go in the west.
34:16 --> 34:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Go secure yourself home field advantage.
34:18 --> 34:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Please.
34:19 --> 34:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, unless you have anything else on this, I think the last thing we need to talk about on today's episode is something you and I didn't expect but happened anyway this week.
34:28 --> 34:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Cole Emerson gets promoted to triple A for the final week of the triple A season and the triple A playoffs.
34:36 --> 34:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Very exciting.
34:37 --> 34:46 [SPEAKER_03]: You could argue A he earned it and B to come also has a need for infielders so they decided That they were gonna call Colt Emerson up with Arkansas's season over.
34:47 --> 34:59 [SPEAKER_03]: He made the most sense and he hit a home run here during his debut Woo, yes cult yes boom, let's go baby That's all I got.
35:00 --> 35:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's not all I got.
35:01 --> 35:01 [SPEAKER_02]: That's not true.
35:02 --> 35:04 [SPEAKER_02]: That's one side to this coin
35:05 --> 35:14 [SPEAKER_02]: The other side is, is a 19 to 20 year old only playing 34 games in AA, a little small of a sample.
35:15 --> 35:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes, definitely.
35:17 --> 35:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because with this, so again, this is the two sides of the coin, fired up for Colt Emerson.
35:25 --> 35:27 [SPEAKER_02]: By him getting promoted, it means he is almost definitely
35:29 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll say most likely, that's a better way to put it.
35:31 --> 35:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Most likely to start the year into coming out next year, meaning his path to the big leagues and the time tables getting shorter and shorter.
35:37 --> 35:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Probably shorter than we originally even imagined.
35:40 --> 35:44 [SPEAKER_02]: I figured it would be around the All Star Break maybe early August next year.
35:44 --> 35:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Now it feels like he could be on the Coyoung timeline, where he could be up in mid-May, late May, especially if he's hitton.
35:51 --> 35:53 [SPEAKER_02]: The other side do it is, again.
35:54 --> 35:57 [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't feel like a lot of games he's played above, Abel.
35:57 --> 36:06 [SPEAKER_02]: The Mariners obviously have much more detail on this than we do, so they clearly feel comfortable with it, but it's not a lot of games.
36:07 --> 36:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Now I would say as TJ, it looks like, well, oh wait, because it looks like you're gonna look something up.
36:13 --> 36:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I will say in those 34 games, Colt Damerson was striking out less than 20% of the time, walked about 9% of the time, which is solid.
36:23 --> 36:29 [SPEAKER_02]: But the bigger deal is he was hitting 280, his OPS was 820, his WRC plus was 133, so he was 33% better than league average in those 34 games in AA and his defense has been silky smooth.
36:37 --> 36:40 [SPEAKER_02]: So, again, another two-sided coin here.
36:42 --> 36:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Small amount of games, but he's been really good.
36:46 --> 36:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And doesn't seem like he's getting phased by Arkansas at all.
36:52 --> 36:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Perhaps this is just him being fortunate of a circumstance.
36:56 --> 36:57 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners needing infielders.
36:57 --> 37:01 [SPEAKER_03]: And therefore, he gets to skip a level.
37:01 --> 37:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying that smart, but we already know his floor is very high.
37:05 --> 37:09 [SPEAKER_03]: And we know in a short sample, he was not over match it all in AA.
37:09 --> 37:10 [SPEAKER_03]: And perhaps the Mariners see that.
37:10 --> 37:14 [SPEAKER_03]: And then they also add, in fact, hey, we need infielders in AAA.
37:15 --> 37:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Colt is the one who I think makes the most sense to be up there.
37:20 --> 37:22 [SPEAKER_03]: time will tell whether or not this is the right decision.
37:23 --> 37:28 [SPEAKER_03]: I think Colt will ultimately play well in AAA, even if he struggles off the bat.
37:29 --> 37:33 [SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, for the last week of the season, I mean, what do you have to lose?
37:33 --> 37:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Arkansas is not playing anyways.
37:35 --> 37:43 [SPEAKER_03]: There is still a world where Colt Emerson plays this week in the postseason with Tacoma, and then the Mariners put him back in AA at the start of next season.
37:43 --> 37:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Still possible.
37:45 --> 37:46 [SPEAKER_02]: That's actually what I was going to ask you.
37:46 --> 37:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Do we think there's a possibility that still happens?
37:48 --> 37:52 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is just a way to get cults and extra at that possibility?
37:52 --> 37:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
37:53 --> 38:01 [SPEAKER_03]: I would say, since I'm not dialed in with sources on prospects, let me say 50 50 chance either way.
38:03 --> 38:07 [SPEAKER_03]: What if Colt looks really good in his week into coma and crushes it in the playoffs?
38:07 --> 38:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Why not?
38:08 --> 38:11 [SPEAKER_03]: His bat might benefit more from being into coma.
38:11 --> 38:15 [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to face some more advanced breaking stuff, which will prepare you for the big leagues.
38:16 --> 38:25 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a better hitters league, so you're going to feel more confident at the plate as opposed to hitting a Dickie Stevens park in Arkansas where every ball you hit seems to just die flatly.
38:26 --> 38:35 [SPEAKER_03]: and get Emerson around some guys who have been in the big leagues and have them game to experience that way too, so he can make his debut sometime next season.
38:36 --> 38:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Spring training will also play a factor here too.
38:38 --> 38:42 [SPEAKER_02]: How he plays in spring training will probably have some determination on where he starts also.
38:43 --> 38:46 [SPEAKER_03]: Ultimately, with these teams look at, sometimes a guy is just ready.
38:47 --> 38:48 [SPEAKER_03]: They see what they want to see.
38:48 --> 38:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, you're not overmatched.
38:50 --> 38:50 [SPEAKER_03]: You're doing everything
38:55 --> 39:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Remember that Julio and Double A did hit better in a, what was that, a handful more, Julio played 46 Double A games.
39:03 --> 39:10 [SPEAKER_03]: If I remember correctly, Cole Emerson has played 34 and had success though not quite as much success as Julio had.
39:10 --> 39:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Remember Julio only had that many games in Double A and then went straight to the big leagues the next season.
39:17 --> 39:20 [SPEAKER_03]: It is always possible when you have a phenom level prospect.
39:21 --> 39:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Cold Emerson is a very very very very very very very good prospect.
39:26 --> 39:29 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I'd throw phenom on him yet.
39:30 --> 39:35 [SPEAKER_03]: But say he starts next season in AAA destroys it and makes the big leagues very early.
39:35 --> 39:36 [SPEAKER_03]: Then yeah, we could do that.
39:37 --> 39:38 [SPEAKER_03]: And then this all makes sense.
39:38 --> 39:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because if he plays 50 games in AAA next year, which still would be around.
39:44 --> 39:48 [SPEAKER_02]: end of May or so.
39:49 --> 39:59 [SPEAKER_02]: If he plays 50 games in Triple A and is crushing it, that would be about 90 games above A ball that he would be playing and he would be facing close to Big League level pitching.
39:59 --> 40:03 [SPEAKER_02]: And if that's the case, that still doubles the amount of games in Julio played above A ball.
40:04 --> 40:04 [SPEAKER_02]: So you're right.
40:04 --> 40:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Cold Emerson is not the same type of prospect.
40:08 --> 40:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Julio was when he was coming up.
40:10 --> 40:13 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not a drastic difference, but there is a difference.
40:14 --> 40:23 [SPEAKER_02]: And if Colk gets double the amount of games and by the end of May next year, he's killing it in AAA, then maybe the Mariners will say, yeah, he's been challenged enough.
40:23 --> 40:25 [SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing left for him to prove down here and we'll call him up.
40:26 --> 40:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's what happens.
40:27 --> 40:34 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, I think spring training will have a big tell on what he does and where he starts in 2026.
40:35 --> 40:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Do we think this changes how the Mariners approach
40:41 --> 41:01 [SPEAKER_03]: possible, possible, because remember what we were floating out when I believe it was on a male bag episode we were talking about this, I would always thought, cold Emerson finishes the year in AA, he starts next season in AA, therefore the Mariners are not going to move off their current shortstop, who hits well enough but has his struggles on defense.
41:02 --> 41:06 [SPEAKER_03]: to worry about moving him knowing he's under contract for another season.
41:07 --> 41:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Cole Emerson eventually gets promoted next year.
41:09 --> 41:13 [SPEAKER_03]: You put Cole Emerson at a different position on the end field or of jpe's willing.
41:13 --> 41:15 [SPEAKER_03]: You put him on a different position of the end field.
41:15 --> 41:17 [SPEAKER_03]: You play both and then jpe walks in the off season.
41:18 --> 41:22 [SPEAKER_03]: But if Cole is starting one level closer to the big leagues next year,
41:23 --> 41:32 [SPEAKER_03]: Then you raise your eyebrow a little bit like okay, so what are the mariners going to be looking for with their shortstop position next season?
41:32 --> 41:33 [SPEAKER_03]: How do they view it?
41:34 --> 41:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean couldn't you let JP play shortstop until Colt Emerson comes up and once Colt is ready?
41:42 --> 41:46 [SPEAKER_02]: You could just have JP and Ben Williams and Platoon at third base or something?
41:47 --> 41:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Can you just do that?
41:49 --> 41:55 [SPEAKER_03]: You could and theory, but this is, these are humans we're talking about and J.P.
41:55 --> 41:57 [SPEAKER_03]: has been in the big leagues for a while.
41:57 --> 42:02 [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't feel like he would all of a sudden be thrilled with a platoon roll at third base.
42:03 --> 42:09 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's not something, and that's not something you just ruffle in a clubhouse in the middle of the season.
42:10 --> 42:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, when Cole's ready, he's going to be up and he's going to play.
42:14 --> 42:15 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's going to play.
42:15 --> 42:17 [SPEAKER_03]: So then Cole plays every day at third base.
42:19 --> 42:26 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not so sure or Colt plays every day at short stop and JP plays every day at third base or plays every day at second wherever they want to put him.
42:26 --> 42:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you could do that, but I think this is more about that when Colt's ready.
42:32 --> 42:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a decent world.
42:34 --> 42:36 [SPEAKER_02]: You see JP Crawford playing somewhere else.
42:36 --> 42:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, this is a guy who's yet again in the bottom five percentile of the league and outs above average.
42:43 --> 42:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I understand there's a human element to this.
42:45 --> 42:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I do.
42:46 --> 42:47 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not like you're kicking him off the team.
42:47 --> 42:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Is there a world you could trade on this winner?
42:49 --> 42:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
42:50 --> 42:52 [SPEAKER_02]: But if he's here next, you're not kicking him off the team.
42:53 --> 42:57 [SPEAKER_02]: You're telling him he's gonna play another position because he has, because,
42:58 --> 42:59 [SPEAKER_02]: time is caught up with them at short.
43:00 --> 43:02 [SPEAKER_02]: You will have a better option defensively.
43:03 --> 43:05 [SPEAKER_02]: And you need to play Colt Emerson every day.
43:05 --> 43:10 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, you would tell JP Crawford we're going to test the out at third base.
43:10 --> 43:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's so crazy.
43:12 --> 43:14 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have, again, I don't have a problem with that.
43:14 --> 43:21 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying JP might and knowing that Dan is the player's manager would adhere
43:24 --> 43:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, when Colts ready, he's playing.
43:27 --> 43:29 [SPEAKER_02]: He implicated you and he ain't off the bench when he's here, he's playing.
43:29 --> 43:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Not wrong.
43:30 --> 43:31 [SPEAKER_03]: You're not wrong.
43:32 --> 43:34 [SPEAKER_03]: But it just where he's where is he playing.
43:35 --> 43:40 [SPEAKER_02]: But again, like, I'm sorry, but my answer to this is if J.P.
43:42 --> 43:47 [SPEAKER_02]: doesn't want to move off a short, then like play better defense.
43:49 --> 43:51 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's a chance the Mariners don't want to move J.P.
43:51 --> 43:51 [SPEAKER_03]: off a short.
43:53 --> 44:04 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying it's the right decision, but it's again, it's not the first time in baseball history that aging veteran has not been just kicked out of his position for 20 year old.
44:05 --> 44:08 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, so maybe Colt Emerson plays some time at third.
44:08 --> 44:13 [SPEAKER_02]: We saw it happen with Mani Machado when he got out Machado barely played any third base at all when he was in the minors.
44:13 --> 44:17 [SPEAKER_02]: He was a short stop and then he played third because they had JJ Hardy at short.
44:18 --> 44:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Difference is JJ Hardy was still a really good short stop at that point defensively.
44:23 --> 44:28 [SPEAKER_03]: If JP comes out next year and is just bad at baseball, then he would lose his job.
44:28 --> 44:35 [SPEAKER_03]: But if JP's doing what JP's doing this season at the plate, where he's 12% above average, they're not taking him out of the lineup.
44:35 --> 44:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, it's not about at the plate.
44:37 --> 44:39 [SPEAKER_02]: This is again in the field.
44:39 --> 44:40 [SPEAKER_03]: This is in the field.
44:41 --> 44:44 [SPEAKER_03]: I know, which is why I said JP can go play a different position.
44:45 --> 44:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
44:47 --> 44:48 [SPEAKER_03]: if they want to do that.
44:48 --> 44:55 [SPEAKER_03]: But I also said it's not the most unlikely thing ever that the 20 year old is the one who has to go play a different position.
44:55 --> 45:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the guy making $12 million a year stays at shortstop until his contract runs out.
45:02 --> 45:03 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying it's the right decision.
45:04 --> 45:08 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying baseball history is told us teams are very much willing to do that.
45:10 --> 45:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, it's possible.
45:12 --> 45:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Cold democracy looks really good defensively at shortstop.
45:18 --> 45:19 [SPEAKER_03]: I, I, I, I agree.
45:19 --> 45:20 [SPEAKER_03]: He's great.
45:20 --> 45:22 [SPEAKER_03]: He's, he's, he's everything the Mariners want in a prospect.
45:23 --> 45:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Everything.
45:24 --> 45:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
45:25 --> 45:27 [SPEAKER_03]: So what's here is, when Mike Trout came up, where did he play?
45:29 --> 45:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he played a couple different spots.
45:31 --> 45:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Again, it's, and he was, he was the number two prospect in baseball when he came up.
45:36 --> 45:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
45:38 --> 45:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Let me see.
45:39 --> 45:40 [SPEAKER_02]: He could play some different spots.
45:40 --> 45:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, I, I, I just, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,
45:46 --> 45:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I guess my, I guess my gripe here, or not maybe it gripes not the right word.
45:49 --> 45:54 [SPEAKER_02]: My argument here is, it would be different if JP was JJ Hardy.
45:54 --> 45:59 [SPEAKER_02]: What JJ Hardy and Mani Machado went through, because Machado was a top three prospect when he debuted too.
45:59 --> 46:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Mani went to third because they had another elite defensive shortstop.
46:05 --> 46:08 [SPEAKER_02]: The Mariners don't have an elite defensive shortstop right now.
46:09 --> 46:11 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, they do not, uh, who else?
46:13 --> 46:15 [SPEAKER_03]: So, okay, so let's use the mic trout example.
46:17 --> 46:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Mike trout, um, so he played mostly, he played left and center.
46:24 --> 46:27 [SPEAKER_03]: That 2012 amazing season he had.
46:28 --> 46:36 [SPEAKER_03]: And he gave up center field reps to peer boarders and Vernon Wells, like not the most
46:39 --> 46:51 [SPEAKER_03]: And he was a phenom all all like great, but even he did not just simply overtake right away, like it's possible.
46:52 --> 46:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Peter Borges was a really, really good defender in center field.
46:56 --> 46:56 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the difference.
46:57 --> 46:58 [SPEAKER_03]: And Mike Trout was better.
46:58 --> 47:00 [SPEAKER_03]: But did they put Mike Trout in center?
47:00 --> 47:05 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm just saying, Peter Borges was putting up 13 defensive run saved out in center field in 2010.
47:06 --> 47:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Then he put up 10 in 2011.
47:07 --> 47:08 [SPEAKER_02]: He put up nine in 2012.
47:09 --> 47:10 [SPEAKER_02]: JB Crawford is not doing that.
47:11 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the point.
47:12 --> 47:16 [SPEAKER_02]: He has not been a really strong defender who he's going to have to compete with the prospect.
47:16 --> 47:17 [SPEAKER_02]: He's been a bad defender.
47:17 --> 47:18 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the argument.
47:20 --> 47:24 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not saying, I'm not calling him a good defender.
47:24 --> 47:31 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying history is not has not just given the plate to the 20-year-old prospect, doesn't matter how good he is.
47:31 --> 47:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Fine, but if you want to align your best defensive infield next year of everything stays on par with where it's at right now with both Colt and JP, Colt Emerson will be the short stop.
47:41 --> 47:43 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm 100% agree with you, 100%.
47:44 --> 47:47 [SPEAKER_03]: But the Mariners have never always just done what is right, never.
47:48 --> 47:49 [SPEAKER_03]: They didn't even do it this year.
47:50 --> 47:51 [SPEAKER_03]: How long was still and more on the roster?
47:54 --> 47:56 [SPEAKER_02]: JB Grover, to be playing their base next year.
47:56 --> 47:57 [SPEAKER_02]: If Cole Tamerson is right.
47:57 --> 47:59 [SPEAKER_02]: And are we sure JP's good at their base?
48:00 --> 48:06 [SPEAKER_02]: No, but you need to let, you need to find another option for Cole Tamerson if he's gonna play shortstop.
48:07 --> 48:10 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's the Meredith's problem to figure out now because Cole is coming.
48:11 --> 48:15 [SPEAKER_03]: He's coming, he's gonna be out next year and he's gonna be really good.
48:15 --> 48:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
48:16 --> 48:17 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what this is more about.
48:17 --> 48:20 [SPEAKER_02]: The excitement of getting Colt Emerson here.
48:20 --> 48:20 [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
48:21 --> 48:22 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't care where J.P.
48:22 --> 48:24 [SPEAKER_03]: plays as long as Colt is up and he's in the lineup every single day.
48:25 --> 48:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
48:26 --> 48:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, Colt might play some third.
48:27 --> 48:30 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not like he wouldn't ever step foot over there.
48:31 --> 48:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're gonna see him play a good amount of short.
48:33 --> 48:34 [SPEAKER_03]: That is my second.
48:34 --> 48:35 [SPEAKER_03]: 2027 Colt Emerson's your starting short stop.
48:36 --> 48:37 [SPEAKER_03]: That I will say for certainty.
48:37 --> 48:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah.
48:39 --> 48:40 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think you might see it a lot of 26.
48:40 --> 48:41 [SPEAKER_03]: That's my prediction.
48:43 --> 48:46 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, well, it's hope so because that means the Mariners are probably making the right decision.
48:46 --> 48:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Right.
48:49 --> 48:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Point being, him being in AAA is pretty exciting.
48:51 --> 48:53 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, it's spark conversations like this.
48:53 --> 49:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, I guess the last thing here is not for certain, but there is a world JP could get traded this winner if they think they did something backform that they like.
49:03 --> 49:07 [SPEAKER_02]: You sign a utility guide to play a short stop for a couple months.
49:07 --> 49:08 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, great.
49:09 --> 49:33 [SPEAKER_02]: and then you bring up Colt when he's ready doesn't have to be somebody bad well here like here's an example i would rather just if you're to if you're going to do that i would just keep jp yeah you could what if they think there's going to be some ego problem though because you seem to think that that could play a factor here here like rather just have more good baseball players on the roster and worry about the egos when that problem arises
49:35 --> 49:39 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not trying to like avoid a problem before the hypothetical problem even starts.
49:40 --> 49:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying what if you went and traded for Hassan Kim for a year as one year left on his deal.
49:45 --> 49:48 [SPEAKER_02]: But by the way, could very easily slide to third when called Emerson's ready.
49:48 --> 49:53 [SPEAKER_03]: But why would you get rid of JP and trade for Hassan Kim?
49:53 --> 49:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever you're giving up, whatever you're gaining in defense, you're giving up an offense.
50:00 --> 50:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
50:00 --> 50:01 [SPEAKER_03]: So then why transact?
50:03 --> 50:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, again,
50:05 --> 50:06 [SPEAKER_02]: what is your solution?
50:07 --> 50:09 [SPEAKER_03]: Put all of them on the roster and figure it out.
50:09 --> 50:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, then cult's a short stop.
50:12 --> 50:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Great.
50:12 --> 50:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Glad we got that solved.
50:14 --> 50:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
50:15 --> 50:22 [SPEAKER_03]: That's not just don't see the point of transacting just a transact for some hypothetical problem that is a year away from us right now.
50:22 --> 50:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm just saying they might want something else back and if they know that JP's times going to come to an end at the end of next year, they might want to get some value back form.
50:30 --> 50:33 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, for two months, you could sign somebody else to play a short stop.
50:33 --> 50:34 [SPEAKER_02]: They can move around.
50:34 --> 50:35 [SPEAKER_02]: What if they sign ICF for a year?
50:36 --> 50:36 [SPEAKER_02]: The idea is to
50:37 --> 50:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Platoon them and be a utility guy and him and Leo Reva spend some time at short stop until Emerson's ready.
50:43 --> 50:47 [SPEAKER_03]: If the goal is making the playoffs, I would keep all the best players possible on your roster and then figure it out.
50:47 --> 50:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Like the Mariners are currently doing right now.
50:49 --> 50:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
50:50 --> 50:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Have a bunch of really good players and just figure it out.
50:53 --> 50:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
50:54 --> 50:59 [SPEAKER_03]: as opposed to taking talent off your roster, while again, remember that cult is a still a prospect.
51:00 --> 51:03 [SPEAKER_03]: We think he's gonna be really good, but he is still a prospect.
51:03 --> 51:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and we're watching a top 40 prospect and Cole Young right now, go through an incredible cold streak and is essentially not playing in the most important part of the season.
51:12 --> 51:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, look, the odds they trade JP Crawford this winter are not high.
51:16 --> 51:20 [SPEAKER_02]: This was just a hypothetical because we're talking about what options we had once he's ready.
51:20 --> 51:21 [SPEAKER_02]: It's an option.
51:22 --> 51:32 [SPEAKER_02]: The more likely option I think is when the time comes, they will ask JP Crawford or more tell him to slide over to third.
51:32 --> 51:40 [SPEAKER_02]: He'll play short to start the year and when Colta, Colt and I play a little bit at third, not like JP would never get a start day at short.
51:41 --> 52:05 [SPEAKER_02]: But more likely they would ask JP to go over to third base say cult's gonna play for fun with that if JP's okay with that Perfect perfect scenario Well maybe not perfect, but as good as it gets I I say he needs to be okay with it because the numbers are what they are and if cult defense days like this It's it's the best alignment for you to win games.
52:05 --> 52:07 [SPEAKER_03]: I agree and that should be the goal win games.
52:08 --> 52:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, anyway
52:12 --> 52:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Very much very exciting and hopefully he has some big playoff moments.
52:15 --> 52:24 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that'll be yeah That'll be really fun for him gets to flan more planes to go to games It's almost like you're in the big leagues almost
52:25 --> 52:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this is, I mean, as you can tell from us debating this on the male bag, when we did last week and now this conversation coming up again, this conversation is not going away.
52:34 --> 52:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Now I think this is going to be a topic throughout the off season.
52:38 --> 52:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I think this is going to be a topic in spring training.
52:41 --> 52:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I think this is going to be a topic come the start of next season.
52:44 --> 52:55 [SPEAKER_02]: This is what Cole Demerson's done not only is he forcing the mariners hand and uping and speeding up his timeline with the way he's played, but now he's sparking conversations like this already and they're relevant.
52:56 --> 52:57 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no right side to it or wrong side to it.
52:57 --> 53:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, what I think is just my own opinion, but do you this is what he's done?
53:03 --> 53:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think this might put pressure on JP2 up his defense?
53:09 --> 53:22 [SPEAKER_02]: That I mean that'd be great if like if he comes into camp next year and his his defense looks all that much cleaner and he starts the year really really hot at short great Then that's a good problem to have to because he had you figure it out
53:23 --> 53:23 [SPEAKER_03]: right.
53:24 --> 53:28 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just a if history continues to go the way it's gone.
53:29 --> 53:33 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the just that JP Crawford is not going to find the fountain of youth at short stop.
53:33 --> 53:43 [SPEAKER_03]: And if JP comes out in the first two months next year and puts up an 89 WRC plus than the arguments self made, like I said, things figure themselves out usually.
53:44 --> 53:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
53:44 --> 53:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for sure.
53:46 --> 53:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Fun combo though, like I said, it's not going away, ultimately fired up for Colt.
53:50 --> 53:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Was surprising to see him get called up, but it's awesome for him.
53:53 --> 53:55 [SPEAKER_02]: And clearly, wasn't phasing game one.
53:55 --> 53:56 [SPEAKER_02]: He had a tank off the light tower.
53:57 --> 53:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Of a lefty, by the way.
53:59 --> 53:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty good.
54:00 --> 54:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Very good.
54:01 --> 54:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Out of boy Colt.
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