Lyle and TJ react to the news of Josh Naylor resigning with the Seattle Mariners on a five-year deal. They discuss why it happened so soon, who wanted this more, and what the Mariners do next.
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00:00 --> 00:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to episode number 326 of the Marine Layer Podcast, a happy episode.
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00:43 --> 01:02 [SPEAKER_00]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just baseball podcast network recording on Sunday evening November 16, Josh Naylor wasn't even a free agent for 10 days and he is back in a Seattle Mariners uniform, how sweet it is.
01:02 --> 01:11 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what we're going to look back on a couple of years from now as Josh Nailers just absolutely cementing his legacy and Seattle as he continues to go off for more 20 30 seasons.
01:12 --> 01:17 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to say hey, remember when everybody freaked out about that post he left under cows Instagram?
01:19 --> 01:21 [SPEAKER_00]: He was trolling.
01:21 --> 01:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
01:23 --> 01:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably he was definitely trolling.
01:26 --> 01:31 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't sign back with a team 10 days into being a free agent.
01:31 --> 01:34 [SPEAKER_00]: without, like, having your mind partially made up.
01:34 --> 01:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's no way, come on.
01:37 --> 01:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, he's been, he's been a little bit known to do stuff like that.
01:42 --> 01:43 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, are we that shocked?
01:44 --> 01:46 [SPEAKER_01]: He's playing the character, yeah.
01:46 --> 01:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, if you, if you need anything to see Josh Naylor play the character, and I'm not saying he's, I'm not saying he's faking it.
01:54 --> 01:56 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just kind of the aura of Josh Naila.
01:56 --> 02:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Go watch when the Mariners did their whole get to know Josh Naila thing on their social pages.
02:01 --> 02:08 [SPEAKER_01]: And every single thing, it's just one answer, one answer, one answer, and then they asked, I think favorite artists, he's like, I don't have a favorite anything.
02:09 --> 02:11 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, well, he's a favorite baseball team.
02:12 --> 02:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, clearly, it's the Mariners.
02:16 --> 02:23 [SPEAKER_00]: He treated this free agency like he treats his personality, I think, because he's different.
02:23 --> 02:24 [SPEAKER_00]: This free agency is different.
02:24 --> 02:30 [SPEAKER_00]: When was the last time we saw a major free agent sign on November 16th?
02:32 --> 02:33 [SPEAKER_00]: major free agent.
02:33 --> 02:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Josh Nieler could collect $100 million for a five-year contract.
02:38 --> 02:41 [SPEAKER_00]: By the way, as of recording right now, we have no idea what the actual number is.
02:42 --> 02:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Guessing it's somewhere between $90 to $100 million total on this five-year contract.
02:49 --> 02:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Blake Snell signed pretty early with the Dodgers last year, right?
02:53 --> 02:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at it up.
02:54 --> 03:00 [SPEAKER_01]: It was November 30th when the article was
03:01 --> 03:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure it's happening at some point where there's been a major free agent that's signed, but it doesn't happen often, you're right.
03:06 --> 03:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Usually guys like to wait out the market and see what other guys at their position are among their talent level are getting, but clearly, Nailor and his camp wanted to just have it over and done with as soon as they could possibly get it done, money, you know, as long as the money ended up being fair, which clearly Josh Nailor was happy with the money because he signed the deal.
03:24 --> 03:25 [SPEAKER_01]: And we have a new record, Lyle.
03:26 --> 03:30 [SPEAKER_01]: The biggest free agent, bat signing in the Jerry depoto era.
03:31 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, I said it on social media, you can go check it out if it ends up being between $9
03:58 --> 04:28 [SPEAKER_01]: In 23 16 17 18 19 21 to go you're right seven years that stood a one year five and a half million dollar contract was the highest free agent position player that ever given out for each and to be and look at them look at them the last three seasons they're just leveling up they go from one year seven million to AJ Pollack who now ranks third in this era it's like our baby steps two years twenty four million for Garver
04:28 --> 04:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Baby steps and how Josh Nailer how many games is going to take Josh Nailer this season to pass the combined war of those three Mariners war all right stall here don't stall but keep talking about Josh Nailer for a minute and I'm going to look up their three wars.
04:46 --> 04:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to at least guess right AJ Pollock was negative because he'd get defaid midway through the season.
04:53 --> 04:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Mitch Garver.
04:54 --> 04:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say Mitch Garver is at about zero.
04:57 --> 04:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably zero net.
04:59 --> 05:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe slightly negative.
05:00 --> 05:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
05:00 --> 05:02 [SPEAKER_00]: So, and then, and then Norea Oki.
05:03 --> 05:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll say one.
05:05 --> 05:08 [SPEAKER_01]: So, by B or because I'm just using baseball reference to look this up.
05:09 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Norea Oki was at one eight.
05:11 --> 05:12 [SPEAKER_01]: So, okay.
05:12 --> 05:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Actually held a little bit of weight.
05:14 --> 05:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So, the number is going to be one five.
05:23 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, this is all by baseball reference.
05:25 --> 05:27 [SPEAKER_01]: We're a Pollock, negative 0.5.
05:29 --> 05:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
05:29 --> 05:30 [SPEAKER_00]: That checks a map too.
05:30 --> 05:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So 1,8, and then negative 0.2, that's negative 1.6, and then negative 0.5.
05:35 --> 05:40 [SPEAKER_00]: So 1.1, 1.1, 60, 3.5 games.
05:41 --> 05:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it sounds about all right.
05:43 --> 05:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Over, under, I'm going to go, under.
05:48 --> 05:50 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a man who call hitting a T-Mobile Park easy.
05:51 --> 06:01 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to come out and have a 15 steel April with 15 home runs and he's already going to pass that more.
06:01 --> 06:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
06:03 --> 06:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Who?
06:04 --> 06:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Who do you think was more aggressive in their decision making in this?
06:08 --> 06:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Was it the Mariners offering five years off the rip or was it Josh Nailer taking a free agent contract before Peter Lanzo, I think, is even talked to a team?
06:20 --> 06:21 [SPEAKER_01]: who is more aggressive?
06:22 --> 06:29 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what, I'm honestly gonna say the Mariners, because as the player infre agency, when you know there's gonna be some demand for your services.
06:30 --> 06:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Even if Josh Nailer wanted to sign early, there's no specific reason he has to jump at the bit 10 days in to inco contract.
06:40 --> 06:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say the Mariners wanted to get this done early and why wouldn't they?
06:43 --> 06:45 [SPEAKER_01]: We talked about it and we can get into it more, but
06:46 --> 06:48 [SPEAKER_01]: this was your guy at first base.
06:48 --> 06:54 [SPEAKER_01]: There was no other either logical options or sound options to replace his production.
06:55 --> 07:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And with the fact that by getting this nailer deal done, you have such a more clear picture of what you want to do and what you can do for the rest of the offseason.
07:03 --> 07:09 [SPEAKER_01]: If they did not get this nailer deal done and they let this thing drag out until January, February, God knows how long.
07:10 --> 07:18 [SPEAKER_01]: You would have been dancing around the edges a lot, trying to figure out what in the world you wanted to do while you're waiting to find out if you're gonna get Josh Nailer back.
07:18 --> 07:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Or hey, Polanco, for example, right?
07:20 --> 07:25 [SPEAKER_01]: What are you going to do trying to offer polo deals if you're negotiating with him in his camp?
07:25 --> 07:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you trying to say, well, we'll try and give you this, but we're trying to set money aside for nailer, but they want a little bit more money.
07:33 --> 07:41 [SPEAKER_01]: So we'll dip into the nailer pool a little bit and sign polonco and then hope nailer will take a little bit less money from the money we still have left in our budget for the offseason.
07:41 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Like that was going to be such a headache.
07:42 --> 07:45 [SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, how do you want to factor bullpen arms into that?
07:45 --> 07:47 [SPEAKER_01]: It was all going to be such a headache.
07:47 --> 07:56 [SPEAKER_01]: By getting these centerpiece of your offseason done and done early, you have set yourself up so well for what the rest of the offseason hold because you have such a clear picture of what you're able to do.
07:57 --> 08:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Negotiations for the most part, you set a deal.
08:01 --> 08:02 [SPEAKER_00]: for baseball at least.
08:02 --> 08:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's say you set a deal right in the smack in the middle of where you're willing to go.
08:07 --> 08:18 [SPEAKER_00]: You put it at like the 50th percent out like the midway point of your number and you give yourself room to negotiate upper down based on need demand outside offers, etc.
08:18 --> 08:19 [SPEAKER_00]: All of these other things.
08:19 --> 08:21 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners went right to 100.
08:22 --> 08:30 [SPEAKER_00]: They took whatever budget they had set aside for Josh Nailer and the years and they said, let's just give it to him, let's show our cards.
08:30 --> 08:33 [SPEAKER_00]: We're playing poker, let's show him all of our cards right now.
08:34 --> 08:36 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's up to him whether or not he wants to turn us down.
08:36 --> 08:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Because the Mariners have dreams this off season.
08:40 --> 08:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Based on this move, this tells us that, that they want to go win the world series.
08:44 --> 08:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're said, we can do it with Josh Nailer.
08:47 --> 08:52 [SPEAKER_00]: If we can't get Josh Nailer for some reason, we're going to need to pivot and go after it aggressively.
08:52 --> 08:55 [SPEAKER_00]: So how did they treat Josh Nailer than an number one priority?
08:55 --> 08:58 [SPEAKER_00]: They went out and they were as aggressive as humanly possible.
08:59 --> 09:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And while I think some teams on this market would be unwilling to offer Josh Nailer five years, the manors didn't even blink.
09:08 --> 09:12 [SPEAKER_00]: They put a fifth year in front of him and said, are you going to get this anywhere else?
09:13 --> 09:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Is someone going to get this to?
09:15 --> 09:16 [SPEAKER_00]: They might, are you sure?
09:16 --> 09:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Because we will, if you sign this right now, you can go talk to other teams.
09:21 --> 09:24 [SPEAKER_00]: You can negotiate with the mats or the Yankees.
09:25 --> 09:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they'll give you five years.
09:27 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_00]: But this deal might not be here forever because we need to go build a winner.
09:32 --> 09:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you want to play here somewhere where you said you've liked, you've been all over the place.
09:35 --> 09:38 [SPEAKER_00]: You can finally settle down and you can raise your kid here in Seattle.
09:38 --> 09:45 [SPEAKER_00]: If you take this deal right now, and he took it, sometimes aggressive negotiation pays off.
09:45 --> 09:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, it's very possible that the Mariners could have left with their hands out like this.
09:51 --> 09:54 [SPEAKER_00]: And Josh Nuller says, I'm confident in my market.
09:54 --> 09:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be okay.
09:56 --> 10:03 [SPEAKER_01]: right, and then if the overplays is hand and this camp overplays is hand, they don't get what they like for many other teams, then come back to the mirrors and say, oh, I do want to sign.
10:03 --> 10:07 [SPEAKER_01]: The mirrors might be at the point where they'd say, well, look, we can't offer you that deal anymore.
10:07 --> 10:09 [SPEAKER_01]: We've given Palomco a contract hypothetically.
10:09 --> 10:11 [SPEAKER_01]: We've given a reliever a contract hypothetically.
10:12 --> 10:15 [SPEAKER_01]: We can only give you X amount, not the five years we originally offered.
10:15 --> 10:18 [SPEAKER_01]: No, you made it very clear.
10:18 --> 10:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Here's your number one priority.
10:19 --> 10:20 [SPEAKER_01]: You
10:20 --> 10:24 [SPEAKER_01]: You showed your cards and proved that he's your number one priority by the contract.
10:24 --> 10:31 [SPEAKER_01]: You just offered on the table for him and you got it done early by showing how much you cared about him and by how much you wanted him to be in the fold of your team and got it done.
10:32 --> 10:34 [SPEAKER_00]: You brought this up to me before recording.
10:34 --> 10:35 [SPEAKER_00]: It makes a ton of sense.
10:35 --> 10:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Josh Nailer has a newborn.
10:37 --> 10:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Just born during the playoffs.
10:38 --> 10:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone made a huge deal about it.
10:40 --> 10:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Josh Nailer won't talk much about it, but it's a very real thing for people with infants.
10:46 --> 10:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't say this is what the mayor said in their negotiation, but I'm sure there was, hey, You just had a kid.
10:53 --> 10:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Once you like somewhere nice and stable for five years that you like you know you like the stay here and raise it.
11:00 --> 11:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I would think so.
11:04 --> 11:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure I'm not I don't know if that went on in the negotiations or now will never know, but if you're Josh Nailer and his family I'm sure that plays a big part and if you know you like to make sense.
11:13 --> 11:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
11:15 --> 11:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you realize this is the biggest contract they've given out to a free agent since Robbie?
11:22 --> 11:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think overall it's third.
11:25 --> 11:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Ever.
11:25 --> 11:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Where?
11:26 --> 11:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Robby.
11:27 --> 11:29 [SPEAKER_01]: And I want to say, Belltree?
11:30 --> 11:31 [SPEAKER_00]: A free agent?
11:32 --> 11:33 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it built Ray a hundred billion.
11:35 --> 11:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, then maybe Robby Ray a second.
11:37 --> 11:39 [SPEAKER_00]: So Robby Rose.
11:40 --> 11:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh wait no, I'm getting my I'm getting my robbies mixed up.
11:43 --> 11:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm at Robby Kno.
11:44 --> 11:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I know I know right is Robby Race second after Kno in terms of money given out.
11:50 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I was just thinking hitters, but sure we can throw him in there I'm just thinking of the biggest Mariners contracts ever Kno number one Robby Ray We're not talking extensions by the way those so count for age and contracts right so like Julio Luis those don't count no
12:07 --> 12:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
12:08 --> 12:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Cano?
12:09 --> 12:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Ray?
12:10 --> 12:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
12:10 --> 12:11 [SPEAKER_00]: How much is Bill Trace contract?
12:12 --> 12:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you find it?
12:13 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking.
12:16 --> 12:19 [SPEAKER_00]: And then, if Naylor's $100 million, like how Cigars was an extension?
12:20 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
12:21 --> 12:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Sean Figgins made about $50 million.
12:23 --> 12:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Bill Trace was way under this.
12:28 --> 12:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was five years for $64 million.
12:30 --> 12:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Congratulations, Josh Nailer, you're on the podium.
12:33 --> 12:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Mariners history of top free agent contracts.
12:36 --> 12:40 [SPEAKER_00]: And it is well worth it.
12:40 --> 12:45 [SPEAKER_00]: It's bold to not look and see what Peter Lanzo got and say, could I up my market there?
12:46 --> 12:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Peter Lanzo's projected value right now on Spotrack.
12:50 --> 12:51 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like $30 million.
12:52 --> 13:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And if there are other teams out there that need free agents, free agent first basement, especially and they don't land Pete or they don't land Cody Bellinger to play there.
13:01 --> 13:13 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll Josh Nailers next and Josh Nailer could have negotiated his way into a desperate team, paying him more than the roughly $18 million the Mariners could give him in this contract.
13:15 --> 13:15 [SPEAKER_00]: He put his priority.
13:15 --> 13:17 [SPEAKER_00]: He had different priorities, though.
13:17 --> 13:18 [SPEAKER_00]: And I respect him for that.
13:19 --> 13:43 [SPEAKER_01]: pretty clear he had a place he liked and said if you pay me fairly I want to stay exactly what he said and again credit to the mariners they decided we're not fucking around in free agency this time and we're just gonna get this done i would i would qualify i would qualify a year ago as fucking around in free agency this was not there's no there was no reason to wait around for the perfect deal on this
13:43 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_00]: right is the perfect the perfect deal you would have tried to maybe get them on a three year deal so you'd have to pay them later into his 30s and the 50s on that contract isn't work out but no no there were certain there were different priorities here what does it tell you about how much impact Josh Taylor made on this city that the seahawks today played their biggest game that they played in probably a decade and Josh Taylor is going to be the front page
14:14 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think he dwellers?
14:15 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_00]: It's still the Seahawks.
14:16 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_00]: He'll be on the front page.
14:18 --> 14:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he'll be on it.
14:19 --> 14:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
14:21 --> 14:23 [SPEAKER_00]: What's everyone gonna be talking about tomorrow?
14:23 --> 14:27 [SPEAKER_00]: I like, say I'm darn old, but they were gonna talk about say I'm darn old anyway.
14:27 --> 14:34 [SPEAKER_00]: But Josh and Taylor split the narrative back on like, the front page, that'd be talking about stuff like this.
14:34 --> 14:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Sadly, there'll be people.
14:35 --> 14:35 [SPEAKER_00]: No member.
14:36 --> 14:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there will sadly probably be Grey's Abel talk tomorrow too, but, well, Toby's alright.
14:41 --> 14:43 [SPEAKER_01]: But yes, I'm getting away from the nailer thing here.
14:44 --> 14:46 [SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be a huge conversation.
14:46 --> 14:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Tomorrow, this week, this month, it's massive.
14:50 --> 15:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, you've just hit the centerpiece of your offseason and, again, set and stone, where you can focus on everything else.
15:01 --> 15:02 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's cool.
15:02 --> 15:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And to your point about Nailer, it's pretty clear.
15:05 --> 15:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, he obviously wanted to be paid.
15:08 --> 15:09 [SPEAKER_01]: He wanted to be paid fairly.
15:09 --> 15:10 [SPEAKER_01]: He should.
15:10 --> 15:13 [SPEAKER_01]: He hit free agency after having a few great years
15:14 --> 15:19 [SPEAKER_01]: But it didn't seem like his ultimate motive was just chase the highest paycheck.
15:20 --> 15:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I think being in an organization he liked and a city he liked amongst the fanbase he seems to like, teammates he liked, played a big factor here.
15:29 --> 15:31 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's too full, right?
15:32 --> 15:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Credit to the Mariners for putting together an environment and having a clubhouse and a fanbase or credit to the fans too.
15:40 --> 15:43 [SPEAKER_01]: The nailer clearly likes so much over a short time span,
15:45 --> 15:46 [SPEAKER_01]: goes the other way, too, right?
15:47 --> 15:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's two-fold, so the Mariners get credit for putting something like that together.
15:53 --> 15:56 [SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, Naylor gets credit, too.
15:58 --> 16:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Are we in perception, changing range right now for Mariners spending?
16:07 --> 16:12 [SPEAKER_01]: To get start, they're trending the right direction, that's for sure, but there is,
16:13 --> 16:17 [SPEAKER_01]: look, there are years of unhealed wounds that you still have to make up for.
16:17 --> 16:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I hate, like, if you're going to use a relationship example,
16:22 --> 16:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's fair to say, well, here's the 50 times I treated you terribly, but look at this one time, I did something great.
16:31 --> 16:33 [SPEAKER_01]: So just forgive all the past wounds.
16:34 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I think you can say, all right, we're training in the right direction and we're taking steps of progress here, but let's see more before we're all the way about, bought back in and saying, all is forgiven.
16:44 --> 17:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll just say the last three major moves the Mariners have made, they've not only taken on cash relative to the amount of time said players were on the roster in Gino, in Nailor, and now Nailor again, but those three moves all had one singular directive.
17:01 --> 17:09 [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't to get a cost-efficient player, it wasn't to balance the budget, it wasn't to salary dump, it was to win.
17:11 --> 17:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Winning winning moves like that's what we want it and in the last year to you can throw Calum to that obviously also.
17:20 --> 17:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying if Josh Taylor signs this contract and Logan Gilbert takes a six year extension in January on top of signing Jorge Polanco.
17:33 --> 17:34 [SPEAKER_00]: What's the narrative?
17:37 --> 17:40 [SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be a real conversation about it for sure.
17:40 --> 17:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying there's, there's a lot of wounds that need to be healed still and you're not wrong.
17:47 --> 17:49 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not wrong, but winning does heal all these wounds.
17:49 --> 17:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
17:51 --> 17:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll say for me, it's not like totally changing, but we've not seen the Mariners operate this way.
18:00 --> 18:11 [SPEAKER_00]: This is not, we had nine years of Jared Apoto, Justin Hollander, and First Avenue Entertainment LLP, running this franchise.
18:11 --> 18:12 [SPEAKER_01]: This is not the same.
18:13 --> 18:13 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
18:14 --> 18:18 [SPEAKER_01]: For those who don't know that reference, First Avenue Entertainment is the name of the ownership group.
18:18 --> 18:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Correct.
18:19 --> 18:23 [SPEAKER_00]: That is the company that owns the Mariners, run by Johnston.
18:24 --> 18:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying, I think you need years of evidence to be honest.
18:29 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_01]: or a world series title.
18:31 --> 18:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that, that clears everything, but I think you need years of evidence.
18:35 --> 18:45 [SPEAKER_01]: So look, were you doing with cow last off season, took them to the very, very end of the off season to buy back some good graces, but did something very positive?
18:45 --> 19:00 [SPEAKER_01]: you clearly did something very positive at the start of this off season by inking nailer to the five-year deal, let's keep seeing it, like as the team keeps winning and revenue as a result should obviously keep going up, let's see dollars continue to be invested back into the ball club.
19:01 --> 19:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of spending revenue, what is next?
19:05 --> 19:07 [SPEAKER_00]: What's the next priority of this off season?
19:07 --> 19:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's how I look at it right now.
19:09 --> 19:11 [SPEAKER_00]: And you mentioned at the beginning, I'll just bring it back up again.
19:12 --> 19:17 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners took care of their number one priority of this off season, 10 days into free agency.
19:18 --> 19:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I kind of feel like they're playing with house money the rest of it.
19:21 --> 19:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Not 100% house money, but we're at about 80%.
19:27 --> 19:40 [SPEAKER_00]: We're Jorge Polanco, I feel like away from it really being house money or it might not be Jorge Polanco, it might be somebody else, but the needs are not as steep as they were at first base elsewhere on the roster.
19:43 --> 19:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll follow that up with two points.
19:45 --> 19:52 [SPEAKER_01]: There are still moves that need to be made and there are still significant upgrades that they could go and try to acquire.
19:53 --> 19:55 [SPEAKER_01]: That being said,
19:55 --> 19:57 [SPEAKER_01]: there's not going to be a spot on this roster.
19:58 --> 20:02 [SPEAKER_01]: That's going to equate to being a whipping boy of the Mariners fan base at this point.
20:02 --> 20:04 [SPEAKER_01]: That's for sure, which is a good sign.
20:04 --> 20:07 [SPEAKER_01]: There is no Donovan Solano that should be pencil into this roster.
20:07 --> 20:10 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no Tommy Listello that's going to be pencil into this roster.
20:10 --> 20:12 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no God who've been the other rowdy.
20:12 --> 20:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know if he was quite a whipping boy.
20:16 --> 20:18 [SPEAKER_01]: People like him just knew what he was.
20:18 --> 20:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to think.
20:19 --> 20:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm wrong.
20:20 --> 20:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Colton Wong, yeah, he was a whipping boy.
20:22 --> 20:24 [SPEAKER_01]: So, there's not going to be any of that.
20:24 --> 20:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Even if you do nothing else, the rest of the off-season.
20:26 --> 20:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're going to do that.
20:28 --> 20:41 [SPEAKER_01]: If you run out, coal, young at second base, Ben Williams in a third base, and a combination of Luke Rayleigh, Victor Robles, and Dom Canzone, and right field and DH, yeah, it's a roster that should compete.
20:42 --> 20:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I would like to see them go do more than that.
20:43 --> 20:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the Mariners want to do more than that.
20:46 --> 20:51 [SPEAKER_01]: But if that was hypothetically what your entire roster looked like moving forward, it should still compete.
20:53 --> 20:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Still feel like Jorge Polanco's number one, though.
20:56 --> 20:58 [SPEAKER_00]: It does feel like a better fit.
20:58 --> 21:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, our Kyle Tucker, but yeah.
21:00 --> 21:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Or Kyle Tucker, yeah.
21:01 --> 21:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Kyle Tucker would be very nice.
21:07 --> 21:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Now though, now, Scooble should be pushed a little higher on the priority list.
21:18 --> 21:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, right, here's how I think about this now.
21:23 --> 21:32 [SPEAKER_00]: since you're number one, both budgetary and baseball, like, need is taken care of in Josh Nailer.
21:33 --> 21:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Your room for risk in acquiring a player of the soft season is significantly higher.
21:40 --> 21:44 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to worry about trading for Derek's Google in Josh Nailer and not being there.
21:44 --> 21:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Cause what?
21:45 --> 21:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Guess what?
21:45 --> 21:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Guess what?
21:46 --> 21:47 [SPEAKER_00]: He's already here!
21:47 --> 21:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Woo!
21:49 --> 21:52 [SPEAKER_00]: So why not?
21:53 --> 21:53 [SPEAKER_00]: at this point.
21:53 --> 21:54 [SPEAKER_00]: And guess what?
21:54 --> 21:59 [SPEAKER_00]: You're still going to have a whole bunch of chips in your trunk, even after making that trade.
22:01 --> 22:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Where is a bullpen arm next?
22:02 --> 22:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you put a bullpen arm before Polock or a scuba?
22:06 --> 22:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I would be down for whatever.
22:08 --> 22:08 [SPEAKER_00]: They need to eat.
22:09 --> 22:10 [SPEAKER_00]: They need bullpen arms.
22:11 --> 22:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Those two things are very clear, whichever they those two they go acquire as long as they get a quality player.
22:18 --> 22:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to complain.
22:20 --> 22:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So Division Jude talked about in the Seattle Times a week or so ago that the upgrades the Mariners were looking to make for the most part were first and third base.
22:29 --> 22:30 [SPEAKER_01]: First base is obviously the make.
22:30 --> 22:31 [SPEAKER_01]: You got nailer back.
22:33 --> 22:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I wonder what the remaining money if it's going to be third base or not.
22:36 --> 22:41 [SPEAKER_01]: The more I start to think about it, and we're not going to know for sure it's
22:42 --> 22:47 [SPEAKER_01]: The more I think it may not take Colt Emerson very long to get up to the big leagues this year.
22:47 --> 22:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I figured for most of last year, even when he got all the way to Tacoma and had a few really good games with the rain years, I still figured it would be around the All Star Break next year.
22:57 --> 23:08 [SPEAKER_01]: The more I start to think about it and listening to Adam Jude with us talk about it, I feel like there's a chance he could get up fairly quickly in 2026.
23:08 --> 23:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And if that's the case,
23:12 --> 23:18 [SPEAKER_00]: not pay out Spragman, which is the biggest upgrade you can make.
23:18 --> 23:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
23:19 --> 23:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So if that's the case, then you're right.
23:22 --> 23:28 [SPEAKER_01]: It screams Polanco and it screams bullpen arm and it screams in the words of Adam Jude, who was on with us on Wednesday.
23:28 --> 23:34 [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to go make a, what was the terminology he used?
23:35 --> 23:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Like to go get scuba, if there's money to go get scuba, what was the terminology he used for this?
23:42 --> 24:05 [SPEAKER_00]: with like it would be like oh a luxury buy that's what he called it yes luxury buy he's so they're in the luxury buy zone right now if you were to go get scuba just right now you are in a zone where you can afford luxury buys because you got your meat and potatoes now you can go buy some caviar right so
24:06 --> 24:12 [SPEAKER_01]: or hey Polonko's more meat and potatoes getting another bullpen arm would be meat and potatoes somebody likes school.
24:13 --> 24:14 [SPEAKER_01]: That's caviar.
24:15 --> 24:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I would think Devon Williams is more along the caviar range.
24:19 --> 24:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Since you spent $18 million on Josh Nailer, it makes it a little bit more.
24:28 --> 24:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Especially from a team, I did say they changed that doesn't spend money on relievers ever.
24:35 --> 24:36 [SPEAKER_01]: But
24:37 --> 24:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I would counter with two things, one, it should have been clear as day during that postseason run that you need more leverage bullpen arms.
24:43 --> 24:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And number two, they were, if you're watching on YouTube, I'm going to use hand gestures here.
24:48 --> 24:51 [SPEAKER_01]: They were this close to acquiring Joe on-derand.
24:52 --> 24:55 [SPEAKER_01]: You think the mariners thought that they wanted high leverage bullpen upgrades?
24:55 --> 24:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were very lucky that second half Edward Bazarto was such a godsend for them.
25:00 --> 25:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Game seven in the ALCS aside.
25:02 --> 25:03 [SPEAKER_01]: But,
25:03 --> 25:28 [SPEAKER_01]: the mariners made it pretty clear that they wanted leverage bullpen upgrades because from everything we understand that joe on derand train again I'm using hand gestures again was this close like I think people thought internally it was done and then the filly swiped like swapped in last second and took it over the top to really make the twins change course of action to take it off the table for Seattle.
25:28 --> 25:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So if that tells you anything
25:31 --> 25:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's more meat and potatoes because you're not trying to make moves like that if you think it's caviar.
25:36 --> 25:39 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, no, we need more leverage bullpen help.
25:39 --> 25:40 [SPEAKER_01]: How about this?
25:40 --> 25:40 [SPEAKER_01]: How about this?
25:41 --> 25:43 [SPEAKER_01]: It can be high quality meat.
25:43 --> 25:46 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the main course, but it can be very high quality.
25:46 --> 25:47 [SPEAKER_01]: We're getting some wagyu.
25:48 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, wagyu or Kobe steak.
25:50 --> 25:51 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what Devon Williams can be.
25:53 --> 25:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
25:53 --> 26:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Regardless, I think they feel more comfortable now acquiring those players than they would
26:01 --> 26:13 [SPEAKER_00]: It feels to me that everything from here on out feels more like a bonus of this off season because you got the main piece and you got it done with the entire off season left.
26:13 --> 26:21 [SPEAKER_00]: So you're the whole script of this off season still has time to play out with every single player you could possibly want.
26:22 --> 26:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Still out there.
26:24 --> 26:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Is this going to make the winter meetings really boring for us in a couple of weeks when we're in Orlando?
26:28 --> 26:29 [SPEAKER_01]: They may not do anything.
26:31 --> 26:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you just have to stir up Kyle Tucker rumors while we're there.
26:33 --> 26:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'll be doing that.
26:34 --> 26:36 [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
26:36 --> 26:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I will be doing that.
26:39 --> 26:45 [SPEAKER_00]: See, I mean, otherwise, it's literally just scum all our polo or Kyle.
26:45 --> 26:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're Kyle Tucker.
26:47 --> 26:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, if you're stuck, if you're still talking about the high end luxury buys.
26:50 --> 26:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I mean, I'm dead serious now that since they Mariners have Josh Nailer, they should push their chips in.
26:59 --> 27:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right because you didn't have to give up any prospects for Nailer.
27:03 --> 27:06 [SPEAKER_01]: All you gave up was money to bring Josh Nailer back and sign them.
27:08 --> 27:19 [SPEAKER_01]: You can, you can afford to go take a swing here and you understand it's for one year and to be honest, for is amazing as he is.
27:19 --> 27:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And could seriously go on to be a Hall of Famer in Terrix School?
27:22 --> 27:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if for sure I'd give him $400 million.
27:25 --> 27:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Not when you're about to be 30 and you're one pitch away from blowing your arm out and you get any go so max effort as it already is to begin with.
27:32 --> 27:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of like the idea that it could be for a year.
27:35 --> 27:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Would I, okay, would I oppose to having Terrix School for a decade?
27:38 --> 27:46 [SPEAKER_01]: No, but it comes with some serious risk and for a team that is already, again, I know we talked about if narratives are changing or not with Mariners ownership, but.
27:47 --> 27:52 [SPEAKER_01]: If they were to give out a big contract like that, they're probably not given out another while that contract is going on.
27:53 --> 28:04 [SPEAKER_01]: So you'd have to be sure if you were to trade for and say hypothetically, sign school and the Austin's in a 26 that you were gonna get it done and you feel good about his health long term.
28:04 --> 28:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't hate the idea of just doing it for one year, especially when you could just replace them with one of your prospects in 27.
28:10 --> 28:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Not to say they're gonna go win two saiyongs, but you'll have other options.
28:14 --> 28:43 [SPEAKER_00]: or if you want another option who we were supposed to talk about on this episode until literally five minutes before recording the news drops could tell marte someone who is publicly available for the Arizona Diamondbacks team that needs to shed salary and add pitching to their team for next year yeah when it's a we're gonna have to rain check when we're gonna talk about him we'll do it soon enough because we were fully planning for this Monday episode to be about marte about hotel
28:43 --> 28:49 [SPEAKER_01]: But now, we'll either do a Wednesday or if we end up having a guess Wednesday, we'll move it to some time.
28:51 --> 28:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Probably next week.
28:51 --> 28:53 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, we said we'd talk about them.
28:53 --> 28:53 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll still talk about them.
28:54 --> 28:56 [SPEAKER_01]: But yes, he's very available.
28:56 --> 28:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you got a chance to take a real swing now.
29:00 --> 29:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
29:00 --> 29:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to the Mariners, making Mid-November interesting, I think, for the first time in my life.
29:05 --> 29:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Ever.
29:05 --> 29:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not complaining.
29:06 --> 29:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they made that cigar trade on Thanksgiving.
29:10 --> 29:13 [SPEAKER_00]: But that team wasn't going to go win the World Series.
29:14 --> 29:16 [SPEAKER_01]: No, but we thought they'd be competitive.
29:16 --> 29:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they were coming off a year where they were just a winaway from the playoffs.
29:20 --> 29:25 [SPEAKER_00]: This team now for the Mariners, we'd say, okay, now that they have Josh Nieler, they're their playoff team.
29:25 --> 29:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
29:27 --> 29:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
29:28 --> 29:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And that makes people feel a lot better.
29:29 --> 29:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And also that 16 team or that sigura trade was coming off a team, that was like, good.
29:35 --> 29:36 [SPEAKER_00]: They're good.
29:37 --> 29:38 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's good.
29:38 --> 29:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not good enough.
29:39 --> 29:41 [SPEAKER_00]: We just watched this team go to game seven of the A.L.C.S.
29:41 --> 29:43 [SPEAKER_00]: and we saw how important Josh and A.L.
29:43 --> 29:43 [SPEAKER_00]: was.
29:43 --> 29:47 [SPEAKER_00]: We have, we have two months, or almost three months of Josh and A.L.
29:47 --> 29:51 [SPEAKER_00]: are being one of the most awesome players we've ever watched in America's uniform.
29:51 --> 29:52 [SPEAKER_00]: And now he's back.
29:52 --> 29:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't think, like, how is it possible to feel better than that?
29:57 --> 30:00 [SPEAKER_00]: if you go to psychiatry, that's a very point.
30:00 --> 30:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Or trade for terrible school.
30:02 --> 30:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I will say, is this about the most unanimous signing we've ever seen?
30:07 --> 30:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, unanimous player, unanimous personality.
30:10 --> 30:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, is there anybody out there that's a mariners fan that's going to either leave us a comment on YouTube, on this episode, or on our social media, or in our DMs, saying, I'm so furious that they re-signed Josh Nailer.
30:23 --> 30:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's amazing with every player you get some of that with people.
30:27 --> 30:31 [SPEAKER_01]: People like them, and then you'll always find a select group of people that don't.
30:31 --> 30:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, perfect example.
30:33 --> 30:38 [SPEAKER_01]: There are actual people on this fanbase that DM does saying, in the middle of the year, Julio needed to go down a triple A.
30:39 --> 30:44 [SPEAKER_01]: So even with one of the best players in the game, you get people that are polarized on every player.
30:45 --> 30:47 [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't seen that at all, what Josh Nealer.
30:47 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Hear me out, Lowe.
30:49 --> 30:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Now let me sign.
30:51 --> 31:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Mariners Hall of Famer Josh Nailer I mean that's gonna be five and a half years of them at the least That's still be the shortest tenure to be in the Mariners Hall of Fame, but
31:03 --> 31:04 [SPEAKER_00]: He wins a ring with him.
31:04 --> 31:11 [SPEAKER_00]: He wins a ring and he does what he did for Ellie or 80% of what he did in the two months he was here last year.
31:11 --> 31:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he'll be in the Mariners Hall of Fame.
31:13 --> 31:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Because he'll be so universally liked, there's not going to be a PD suspension holding over a set.
31:18 --> 31:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Another thing I wanted to talk about today was on social, but literally I was about to hit post on this post before the Josh Nieler news came in.
31:27 --> 31:30 [SPEAKER_00]: It's whether or not Robinson Kenos should be in the Mariners Hall of Fame.
31:31 --> 31:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Kenos has a PED suspension hanging over his head.
31:33 --> 31:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Josh knew a sum will not.
31:37 --> 31:40 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's pretty fascinating case.
31:41 --> 31:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Very, very, very much.
31:43 --> 31:55 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I would say the rest of the offseason people just be perfectly well and excited if you just go do things like sign polo and then get some bullpen arm,
31:55 --> 31:58 [SPEAKER_01]: You could really, really send this thing over the top.
31:58 --> 31:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Neither ones wrong.
32:00 --> 32:06 [SPEAKER_01]: If you just want to run it back with most of your roster and just bring Polo back and get a bullpen arm, that'll be totally fine.
32:06 --> 32:09 [SPEAKER_01]: And people will be excited, but you've really got a chance to do some damage now.
32:11 --> 32:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Gosh, I didn't think I could be the excited about Mariners baseball, November, Lyle.
32:16 --> 32:19 [SPEAKER_01]: But now there's so much we're going to cook up the rest of the obviously, and it's going to be awesome.
32:21 --> 32:22 [SPEAKER_00]: We are playing rent free now.
32:22 --> 32:26 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like the needs in the paranoia are gone.
32:26 --> 32:32 [SPEAKER_00]: We are in a February last year, and there's a wonder whether or not this team is going to be good enough to win 84 games.
32:33 --> 32:36 [SPEAKER_00]: And now it's like, Bring it all on.
32:37 --> 32:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're exact words when we were on Fox 13, Do a Washington Sports Rap is the show's concluding.
32:42 --> 32:44 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, quick, five seconds to your TJ Mariners making the playoffs?
32:45 --> 32:45 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
32:45 --> 32:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's our show.
32:48 --> 32:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, if I get the same question from Aaron, the answer is going to be.
32:51 --> 32:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
32:52 --> 32:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they will.
32:54 --> 32:54 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what?
32:55 --> 32:59 [SPEAKER_01]: We might be cooking up ideas now all off season, but guess what we don't have to do anymore.
33:00 --> 33:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Talk about moon and talk of Murakami and his, oh, for the century batting average again, five below.
33:06 --> 33:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Komodo.
33:07 --> 33:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, our Okamoto too, probably would have been a little safer, but we can take those two guys off the board, which look, they'll get their money somewhere, and hope we'll hope for the best for them elsewhere, but we don't have to worry about that anymore.
33:19 --> 33:26 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to worry about a lottery ticket player that you're going to have to give real money to play first base if you lose Josh Naylor.
33:26 --> 33:29 [SPEAKER_01]: No, you've got your guy, and you've got him for a half a decade.
33:29 --> 33:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
33:31 --> 33:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Good show dog.
33:32 --> 33:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Good job.
33:32 --> 33:33 [SPEAKER_00]: It's so exciting.
33:34 --> 33:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Good.
33:35 --> 33:37 [SPEAKER_01]: He goes to be fired up.
33:37 --> 33:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, you got four more months to try this more often.
33:40 --> 33:41 [SPEAKER_00]: How about they do it?
33:42 --> 33:48 [SPEAKER_00]: It took into my 27 or 28th year on this earth for the Mariners within the span of like four months to have a great trade deadline.
33:49 --> 33:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Go to the ALCS win three games in it.
33:54 --> 33:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, how about to do it again next year, but win five more games.
33:58 --> 33:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Perfect.
33:59 --> 33:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Sounds good to me.
34:00 --> 34:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
34:00 --> 34:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, that's just about wraps up this edition of the Marine Lair pod cast.
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34:34 --> 34:34 [SPEAKER_01]: That's TJ.
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34:35 --> 34:35 [SPEAKER_01]: It's always weird.
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