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00:49 --> 01:00 [SPEAKER_00]: and we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just baseball podcast network recording on Thursday evening January 1st, 2026, Lyle happy new year.
01:02 --> 01:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Luis is still here.
01:04 --> 01:04 [SPEAKER_00]: He is still here.
01:05 --> 01:09 [SPEAKER_00]: It has been how many hours of it's been what's 17.
01:10 --> 01:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't do math here.
01:11 --> 01:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, actually, I can't 17 hours of the new year.
01:14 --> 01:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Luis Castillo's no trade clauses expired.
01:16 --> 01:17 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's still a mariner.
01:18 --> 01:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Is that a good sign?
01:19 --> 01:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a good sign.
01:20 --> 01:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
01:21 --> 01:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Little spoiler we did get a couple male bad questions involving him so we'll probably dive into it a little later in the episode But hey, he's still here.
01:30 --> 01:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I think there was a point.
01:31 --> 01:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I think there was always not the number one thing you were thinking about yesterday when the when the the ball dropped in the Space needle went off with its fireworks Because I'm a complete psychopath.
01:42 --> 01:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, legitimately we were we were with a bunch of our friends on New Year's Eve and when I saw midnight hit
01:49 --> 01:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Legitimately the first thought that popped in my head is, Oh, Louis is no trade clause just expired.
01:54 --> 01:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Ha ha ha.
01:55 --> 01:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think Jerry was thinking about the same thing?
01:58 --> 02:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, because they don't really seem inclined to trade him anymore.
02:02 --> 02:03 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no.
02:03 --> 02:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, circumstances has changed.
02:04 --> 02:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, we'll get into this conversation later.
02:06 --> 02:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I would like to give a shout out to all the listeners and followers of the podcast is ringing the new year with.
02:10 --> 02:11 [SPEAKER_00]: We were out in Queen Anne.
02:11 --> 02:18 [SPEAKER_00]: And there were there were quite a few that came up and said, hello, so I'm tall of you that might be listening or watching.
02:18 --> 02:20 [SPEAKER_00]: It was great meeting you all last night.
02:20 --> 02:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a great way to to start the new year.
02:22 --> 02:23 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll say it.
02:23 --> 02:35 [SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome and it happens we're out in Queen Anne like you said for New Year's Eve, but we'll spend time in Ballard pretty often too And when we're in Ballard kind of a similar thing.
02:35 --> 02:41 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not on New Year's, but we'll see a bunch of listeners and watchers and followers We're just always super super cool.
02:41 --> 02:46 [SPEAKER_00]: So shout out to all you guys that we met and remind you guys please don't hesitate to say hello in public like we're not
02:46 --> 02:48 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll say hello back.
02:48 --> 02:49 [SPEAKER_00]: We're nice from this.
02:49 --> 03:02 [SPEAKER_01]: We always say it unless there is literally a camera in somebody's face and we are in the middle of like mid interview interviewing somebody We are always more than more than happy to chop it up and say hey and talk ball that
03:02 --> 03:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Before we get into this mailbag lie or reminder to everybody if you want priority for mailbag questions We do these mailbags every single Friday We have lots of questions to see if through if you want to be at the top of that pile and you want to get your question answered every single week The place to go is our patreon patreon.com slash marine layer pod It gives you access to not only mailbag priority, but you get access to ad free episodes and a Chinsque beyond a video call with law and I monthly the talk about the mariners essentially have your own Q&A session with us
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03:37 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
03:37 --> 03:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
03:38 --> 03:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Question number one from Landon on Patreon.
03:42 --> 03:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to Darren.
03:42 --> 03:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Remember Darren on Patreon.
03:44 --> 03:56 [SPEAKER_00]: His son Landon has a question for us and the question is, what are the odds that we, what are we odds that the Mariners are going to sign Alex Braggman?
03:56 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to say that they're really high.
03:58 --> 04:02 [SPEAKER_01]: It just unfortunately feels like it's not going to happen.
04:02 --> 04:06 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners claim he's out of their budget, which again, that can be a whole conversation in it.
04:06 --> 04:16 [SPEAKER_01]: It's own right, but if we're just going to stick on the Braggman topics specifically, I think the Mariners want to give Colt Emerson the Avenue.
04:16 --> 04:19 [SPEAKER_01]: to play in 2026 and that position's probably going to be third base.
04:19 --> 04:26 [SPEAKER_01]: So between that, between Breggman not seeming to have much interest in Seattle, it feels like he's splitting hairs right now between Arizona and Boston.
04:26 --> 04:28 [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like he's leaning Arizona right now.
04:29 --> 04:34 [SPEAKER_01]: For all those different reasons paired with him being a Scott Boris guy, feels like an uphill battle.
04:34 --> 04:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's put it like that.
04:35 --> 04:52 [SPEAKER_00]: If there was some interest on Alex Bergman side, this is like a scenario where I could see them trading Luis Castillo, if they needed to free up the amount of money, needed to sign Alex Bergman, but I don't see Alex Bergman being interested in playing in Seattle.
04:52 --> 05:04 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I would put that percentage at about zero, which is a shame, because he's the only free agent out there that I would 100% be on board with, because he fits the roster whole lot better, but
05:04 --> 05:06 [SPEAKER_00]: doesn't seem like he's interested at all.
05:06 --> 05:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't think he's the only free agent.
05:08 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, our sorry, one of two free agents.
05:10 --> 05:11 [SPEAKER_01]: In few, I was thinking of infielders.
05:13 --> 05:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of which, when, when you talk about shooters shoot, we did leave Kyle Tucker reply on his Instagram.
05:20 --> 05:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Here is he rang in the new year on Instagram, wishing people a happy new year.
05:23 --> 05:28 [SPEAKER_01]: We did reply all caps say happy new year, K-talk with about a million exclamation points.
05:28 --> 05:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So,
05:30 --> 05:31 [SPEAKER_01]: We're letting the boys be heard people.
05:32 --> 05:34 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're like us and you're still holding on to Kyle Tucker hope.
05:36 --> 05:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Hope is not lost.
05:37 --> 05:40 [SPEAKER_01]: We just got in his ear and I'm sure he's going to read all those comments.
05:40 --> 05:49 [SPEAKER_00]: So and look since our since we have a lot of followers on Instagram, it will show up under his priority notifications.
05:49 --> 05:56 [SPEAKER_00]: So he might click on there and be curious like, hey, who's commenting on this post and he'll see the Marine Lair pod.
05:58 --> 06:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think that's all the motivation he needs.
06:01 --> 06:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I think so too.
06:02 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, oh, those guys seem cool.
06:04 --> 06:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to hang out with them.
06:05 --> 06:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Good fun.
06:06 --> 06:07 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what to do, K-Tuck.
06:09 --> 06:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Josh on Patreon asks or says because he wrote out his New Year's Resolutions to us.
06:15 --> 06:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Three New Year's Resolutions about Josh New Year.
06:17 --> 06:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Lyle, tell me how realistic they will be.
06:19 --> 06:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Number one, 30, 50.
06:26 --> 06:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would have said it would be like shooting the moon to have Josh and Taylor get to 30 stolen bases.
06:30 --> 06:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess I shouldn't put anything past them, especially if he's going to spend a full year in a mariner uniform.
06:36 --> 06:41 [SPEAKER_01]: However, I will put those odds at 8%.
06:41 --> 06:45 [SPEAKER_00]: He was on 50 steel pace and Seattle.
06:46 --> 06:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would still say it's a long shot.
06:49 --> 06:54 [SPEAKER_01]: The 30 home runs absolutely, but you pair it with 50 stolen bags.
06:54 --> 06:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're talking about him being up there and the league lead with guys like.
06:59 --> 07:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Bobby with junior or al Jose Ramirez or Juan Soto.
07:03 --> 07:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I think those are the two prime examples from this season.
07:05 --> 07:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Juan Soto.
07:06 --> 07:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
07:07 --> 07:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I want Soto steals bags.
07:09 --> 07:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I just think they're good on defense.
07:10 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's remarkable that he does, but yeah.
07:14 --> 07:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, the 30 home runs for sure, but 30 50, I'm going to say 8%.
07:17 --> 07:24 [SPEAKER_00]: The stolen base leaders in this past season, the top two, if I remember up the top my head, Jose Ramirez was number one, Juan Soto's number two.
07:25 --> 07:28 [SPEAKER_00]: That's like those aren't
07:29 --> 07:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
07:29 --> 07:36 [SPEAKER_00]: So like it's possible, but faster than nailer, they aren't faster than nailer.
07:36 --> 07:43 [SPEAKER_00]: What I would wonder how nailer's body would hold up for an entire season, stealing bags at the rate he did in the final two months of the season.
07:44 --> 07:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So remember Ramirez ranks in the 78th percentile of Major League Baseball in Sprint Speed.
07:49 --> 07:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Nailers can be sneaky fast.
07:51 --> 07:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but he's actually fast.
07:53 --> 07:54 [SPEAKER_01]: He's in the 78th percentile.
07:55 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Josh Nailer is not in the 78th percentile.
07:59 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not.
08:00 --> 08:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I would seriously wonder if Josh Nailer's body could withstand stealing 50 bags because even these fast guys were more suited to steal that many bases.
08:11 --> 08:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Stilling that many bags year over year over year over year really beats you up.
08:15 --> 08:33 [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like catching So you just constantly like running really fast and slamming into the bag and people are smackin' you in the head And there's the finger injuries when you're sliding into the base There's just all sorts of things that could happen to you and Would 50 stolen bases be worth Josh and Taylor potentially spraining a finger for example.
08:33 --> 08:35 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think so
08:37 --> 08:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Although he may not care about head injuries, this is the man who jumped head first into a baseball in the ALCS.
08:43 --> 08:43 [SPEAKER_00]: That is true.
08:43 --> 08:45 [SPEAKER_00]: He was willing in a walkier.
08:46 --> 08:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Terkscouble was willing to put his body on his line on the line for the team.
08:50 --> 08:50 [SPEAKER_00]: It's true.
08:51 --> 08:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say I would say that if you're going to compare nailer to somebody, the comparison would be one.
08:56 --> 09:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Sodo, because sodo is in the 13th percentile of the league in spring speed, nailers in the third.
09:01 --> 09:03 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's still 10 percent slower than one sodo.
09:04 --> 09:04 [SPEAKER_01]: But
09:06 --> 09:07 [SPEAKER_01]: that would probably be the comparison.
09:07 --> 09:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Although I don't think one soda's ever stealing 50 bags.
09:10 --> 09:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So you're saying there's a chance.
09:12 --> 09:15 [SPEAKER_01]: A chance, but again, I don't think one soda ever steals 50 bags.
09:15 --> 09:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Josh Naylor ever steals 50 bags.
09:17 --> 09:20 [SPEAKER_01]: But yes, I am giving a chance because I put it a day percent.
09:21 --> 09:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Josh's number two new year's resolution about Josh Naylor is at least one new viral iconic quote, quote, rock the baby like moment.
09:33 --> 09:38 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't really have a viral moment with the Mariners once he was traded, right?
09:38 --> 09:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Unless you count the jumping head first into the ball.
09:43 --> 09:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Only got two months of time, so did he have one in Arizona?
09:47 --> 09:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.
09:47 --> 09:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I just maybe the most notable one for me was when he hit the walkoff Korean slam against the Mariners and didn't smile the entire time.
09:56 --> 09:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean he legitimately looked pissed off to be hitting a walk on Grandslam.
09:59 --> 10:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, he didn't want to beat his new team.
10:02 --> 10:04 [SPEAKER_00]: That's all clear.
10:05 --> 10:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I feel like he's gotten a lot of that out of his system, though, because if you talk to him about those kinds of things now, like, for example, go look at our, uh, blind ranking Josh Nailer moments with Josh Nailer video on our on our Instagram or TikTok or wherever, and while asks him about some of these reactions that he's done, he doesn't really like talking about it anymore, any of that kind of stuff.
10:30 --> 10:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think.
10:32 --> 10:40 [SPEAKER_01]: either people gave him a hard time about it, and wanted him to do less of it, or he just himself wanted to do less of it.
10:40 --> 10:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember talking to a couple people who said that they thought that Nailer was given a bit of a hard time about that stuff earlier on in his career when he was doing it all the time, and eventually as time progressed.
10:52 --> 10:58 [SPEAKER_01]: he wanted that to be on the back burner and not be known as the guy who's always just losing his mind all the time.
10:59 --> 11:06 [SPEAKER_01]: So that may be part of it and then you're right when we ask him about it he said, yeah, I just I don't like being all over social media.
11:06 --> 11:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So that feels like in some ways he's he's changed because I mean, this is a man who literally headbutted Terry Frank Kona after hitting a walk off home run when he was in Cleveland.
11:15 --> 11:17 [SPEAKER_01]: He looked with his helmet.
11:17 --> 11:27 [SPEAKER_01]: So, or no, no, sorry, Nailer didn't have a helmet, Frank Hona put on a helmet because he didn't want to get just like a concussion from a Josh Nailer headbutt, but yeah.
11:28 --> 11:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, I'll say this.
11:29 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_01]: We've got five years at some point in a five-year span.
11:32 --> 11:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Could we see Nano do something?
11:34 --> 11:35 [SPEAKER_01]: It's certainly wouldn't rule it out.
11:35 --> 11:39 [SPEAKER_01]: We still know he's a very fiery guy and can get pretty amped up if you get him in the right headspace.
11:40 --> 11:45 [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know if we're going to see it at the hit rate that he was doing it in Cleveland.
11:45 --> 11:50 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'll say higher percentage chance then going 30-50, I'll put that at
11:51 --> 12:21 [SPEAKER_00]: 30% and then the last one we're all in for this does an in-person interview on the Marine Lair podcast I mean that would be amazing again we've got five years Yeah we got five years this plenty of time for that to happen and I think it would be so interesting if you could actually get him to open up that's the thing would Josh Nailer for the most part
12:21 --> 12:38 [SPEAKER_00]: When he's being interviewed, pretty short and pretty guarded, I would love to get into the mind of Josh Nailer, someone who seems like he has a lot of other interesting things about him behind the baseball wall that he doesn't talk about and doesn't showcase.
12:38 --> 12:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'd like to get to know a little bit, like hear about his love for hockey, or maybe as more passions outside of baseball, which I'm sure he does, then people would pick up on.
12:48 --> 12:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe he's a big music fan, because his wife said, singer, I'm pretty sure.
12:52 --> 12:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's entirely possible.
12:54 --> 12:59 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got at least have some level of interest in music, if that's his wife's profession.
12:59 --> 13:02 [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, look, we would love for it to happen.
13:02 --> 13:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say Josh Nailer's on a pretty short list of Maritors who we'd love to sit down with.
13:06 --> 13:06 [SPEAKER_01]: But TJ is right.
13:07 --> 13:11 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a unique cat and he's a tough case to crack.
13:11 --> 13:13 [SPEAKER_01]: So it would take, we would have to be on our A game.
13:13 --> 13:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's put it like that.
13:14 --> 13:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And even then, there's no guarantee that he's just gonna really open up and talk about this up, but we'd certainly try.
13:21 --> 13:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, the one time we really got to do anything with him in this clip that TJ's referencing, that we'd,
13:26 --> 13:29 [SPEAKER_01]: got him on the mic for about two weeks after he was traded.
13:29 --> 13:30 [SPEAKER_01]: He was very nice.
13:30 --> 13:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to spit it in the wrong light.
13:32 --> 13:38 [SPEAKER_01]: But when we're kind of going through some potential ideas we had for him, he's like, yeah, I don't watch baseball.
13:38 --> 13:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Just in like, he's just like, very short into the point.
13:42 --> 13:44 [SPEAKER_01]: He's got a smile on his face, he's like, yeah, I don't watch baseball.
13:44 --> 13:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, well, what else could we do?
13:48 --> 13:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Or there's the clip the Mariners social team did with him when they were asking him, I think they were asking him what his favorite artist was.
13:55 --> 13:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And he said, I don't have a favorite anything.
13:58 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_01]: That one's amazing.
13:59 --> 14:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, like, and a lot of those questions, it's a get to know the player's sort of segment.
14:05 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And when they're asking Josh and Taylor a bunch of the questions, it's one word answer, one word answer, one word answer, one word answer, and then I don't have a favorite anything.
14:14 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_00]: But just who he is.
14:15 --> 14:18 [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's how his personality is in the clubhouse could be totally different.
14:18 --> 14:25 [SPEAKER_00]: We're open and he he's very comfortable talking But when there's a mic in front of him, it's it's not the same.
14:25 --> 14:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So I still I still wonder how much of it's a bit, but maybe we'll never get to find out
14:31 --> 14:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Next question comes from Michael on Patreon.
14:34 --> 14:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And Michael's question is, I don't know much about Kazuma Okamoto, but based on his profile, how do you think he might fit into the Mariners system and how would an acquisition like that, plus one more bullpen arm, grayed out the off season in our view?
14:49 --> 14:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Putting everything else aside, if you were to add one more bat and a bullpen arm, obviously would up the offseason grade.
14:56 --> 14:59 [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know how Okamoto fits into their plans.
15:00 --> 15:12 [SPEAKER_01]: We talked about him as a plan B if Josh Nailer were to go elsewhere when we were highlighting him at the start of the offseason, but now that you have a first basemen and similar to Murakami, he's not really supposed to be a Supreme Defender.
15:12 --> 15:22 [SPEAKER_01]: That would make him a first basement slash dh, which we've already talked about causes problems for cow because cow needs the H days paired with he's going to cost some decent money.
15:22 --> 15:27 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be $100 plus million dollars, but it'll be decent money.
15:28 --> 15:34 [SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that the Mariners already have, again, a first basement, they need some flexibility at dh.
15:35 --> 15:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Ref Snyder's going to be dh and cow's going to be dh and I don't really know where he fits.
15:40 --> 15:59 [SPEAKER_00]: and the quote unquote versatility for him wouldn't really work out for the mariners like if you were sliding him over to third base cause he can't play first base because josh nilers at first base so that takes that version of versatility out the window meanwhile if you were to add a brand and donovan for example
15:59 --> 16:06 [SPEAKER_00]: the positions that he's versatile for, the Mariners have no problem putting him in and rotating the roster to accommodate him.
16:06 --> 16:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Like if they're going to put him in left field, Randy DHS, if they're going to put him at second base, Cole Young gets the day off.
16:11 --> 16:15 [SPEAKER_00]: If they put him at third base, Ben or Colt gets the day off.
16:15 --> 16:28 [SPEAKER_00]: There's options there with Brandon Donovan, Okamoto, not really, he'd be much more expensive year over here, even if you don't have to sign him to a long deal, you would be eating up a lot of whatever your remaining budget is for a not sure thing.
16:28 --> 16:29 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not a sure thing.
16:29 --> 16:35 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't know if he's going to come over to Major League Baseball and succeed.
16:36 --> 16:40 [SPEAKER_00]: and that could affect what you could do in season as well based off of how much money you had to spend on him.
16:40 --> 16:46 [SPEAKER_00]: So it doesn't feel like a realistic move and he doesn't feel like a great fit either.
16:47 --> 16:52 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners needs right now are very specific and Okamoto does not fall in that category.
16:53 --> 16:58 [SPEAKER_01]: It also didn't get as much media attention as this did with Murakami, but
16:58 --> 17:03 [SPEAKER_01]: The book on Okamoto is similar in the sense of he struggled with high VLO2.
17:04 --> 17:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Now we highlight it in Japan.
17:05 --> 17:13 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't get to see a ton of high VLO and a bunch of offerings that are 94 miles an hour or higher, but his numbers did fall off when he saw high VLO in Japan.
17:14 --> 17:25 [SPEAKER_01]: And the difference between Murakami and Okamoto is if Murakami takes some time to adjust to Big League pitching to see regular high heaters and regular 95 plus VLO,
17:25 --> 17:32 [SPEAKER_01]: He's 25, 26 years old, so he'll have a little more time to adjust, where teams can probably put up with a little bit more of a waiting period.
17:33 --> 17:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Okamoto's 30.
17:34 --> 17:39 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not at a point in his career, where he can really be doing a lot of learning on the fly.
17:39 --> 17:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Teams will be signing him with the intention of winning right now, and I think for the Mariners along with already having a log jam at the positions he plays.
17:45 --> 17:51 [SPEAKER_01]: you would potentially have to take on a little bit of a project and I don't think they're in a place where they're willing to do that.
17:52 --> 17:56 [SPEAKER_00]: And 30-year-olds making over $15 million can't really be projects.
17:56 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Because once you're over the age of 30, then you're theoretically going to get worse every year from there on out.
18:03 --> 18:06 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's just not slowing the Mariners or in a situation to deal with right now.
18:06 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_00]: So, that's not going to work out.
18:09 --> 18:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for the question, though, Michael.
18:11 --> 18:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Before we get to the next question, Lyle, do you want to read that?
18:15 --> 18:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's the new year.
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18:48 --> 18:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Zander on Patreon is asking are the Mariners waiting till the new year for Luis Castillo's no trade clause to expire before exploring trade options that can include him?
19:01 --> 19:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so here's the little least question about his no trade clause.
19:04 --> 19:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I've wondered that a little bit.
19:05 --> 19:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I've wondered if
19:07 --> 19:20 [SPEAKER_01]: a part of the reason you haven't seen any trade happen yet with Brendan Donovan or with Kattel Marta or with anybody else is because there's a chance the Mariners are waiting till that January first mark to potentially include Luis Castillo in a trade.
19:21 --> 19:28 [SPEAKER_01]: But the Mariners have also said a lot this off season that they don't really have intention to trade out of their starting rotation.
19:28 --> 19:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So it depends on how you want to balance that.
19:30 --> 19:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, East Castillo a year ago was very heavily talked about in potential trades.
19:34 --> 19:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Now not as much, where they seem like they just want to roll with the five starters that they have.
19:39 --> 19:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, the budget was also a lot tighter last offseason.
19:41 --> 19:47 [SPEAKER_00]: This offseason, the Mariners have said, and they've said it with their actions to the budgets, not really that tight.
19:47 --> 19:54 [SPEAKER_00]: So there's not as much incentive to trade Luis Castillo, because they're not trading them away just because he's old or potentially declined.
19:54 --> 20:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he is declining from a stuff perspective, but mostly it's to get his $24 million off the books.
20:02 --> 20:06 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you were to get his 24 million first of all, the Mariners still have money to spend right now.
20:06 --> 20:13 [SPEAKER_00]: They have like, I think, $15 million left and they're to get back to where they were at the end of last season.
20:15 --> 20:32 [SPEAKER_00]: that it's not it's not a tight enough space to where you feel the need to offload twenty four million dollars if you were to offload that money where would you spend it like you'd spend on our experiment right but if our experiment doesn't want to come here then why did you just trade out of your starting rotation
20:32 --> 20:36 [SPEAKER_00]: there's a risk if you do trade them that you're making your team worse.
20:37 --> 20:44 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a chance because then you would you could you would have to sign somebody to fill that rotation spot potentially.
20:44 --> 20:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Tetsuya, my off the block, by the way, to the Houston Astros.
20:47 --> 20:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Not great.
20:49 --> 20:52 [SPEAKER_00]: You couldn't you couldn't sign him to replace it.
20:52 --> 20:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And even if you did have to sign him, then you're not saving as much money as you were just trading Luis Castillo away.
20:59 --> 21:08 [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I don't see it, or you're wrong with someone who's less proven, which potential makes your rotation worse.
21:08 --> 21:14 [SPEAKER_01]: If they were to train, I'm made probably wrong with Logan Evans, or Emerson Hancock, until Jorangel, I was ready.
21:14 --> 21:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Is my guitar.
21:16 --> 21:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Does that make the Mariners better?
21:20 --> 21:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Depends on who they'd get in return.
21:21 --> 21:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you go get Alex Braggman or Kyle Tucker?
21:30 --> 21:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
21:31 --> 21:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say.
21:33 --> 21:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Is it?
21:33 --> 21:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it on my glee?
21:35 --> 21:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, it seems...
21:38 --> 21:41 [SPEAKER_01]: seems a little unlikely to trade Cassie with this point.
21:42 --> 21:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't totally rule it out because again, now that this no trade clause has expired, it does open up possibilities, but they do seem pretty set on wine to roll back their five starters.
21:53 --> 21:59 [SPEAKER_01]: And to be honest, even though Louise isn't the same pitchary once was, he still provides that rotation some real stability.
21:59 --> 22:02 [SPEAKER_01]: And for a guy that's continued to age,
22:02 --> 22:05 [SPEAKER_01]: He continues the post at the very least you have to give him that.
22:05 --> 22:10 [SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't missed a lot of starts, he doesn't battle injuries, he is a pretty durable guy.
22:10 --> 22:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Durable and he is totally fine.
22:14 --> 22:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he had an area of three, six last year.
22:17 --> 22:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Totally fine.
22:18 --> 22:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I take that as the fifth best starter in your rotation.
22:22 --> 22:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Every team would take that as the fifth best starter in your rotation.
22:26 --> 22:27 [SPEAKER_00]: I've come around on the idea of trading him.
22:28 --> 22:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And unless there is a clear cut, go out and spend option, that would come to Seattle and play for the Mariners with that money you would save by trading him.
22:37 --> 22:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't see how it makes the Mariners that much better
22:40 --> 22:43 [SPEAKER_00]: What, you've come around on the idea of trading him, you said?
22:43 --> 22:45 [SPEAKER_00]: No, to like not trading him.
22:46 --> 22:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Because it doesn't, it doesn't feel like it makes as much sense right now if there's not a clear cut option to use that money elsewhere.
22:53 --> 22:55 [SPEAKER_00]: What's the point of saving money?
22:55 --> 22:57 [SPEAKER_00]: If you just save money, great.
22:57 --> 23:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Then your team's horse and your payrolls lower, lower, great.
23:01 --> 23:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Congratulations.
23:03 --> 23:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say this quickly on Tattoo Emi, because we're not going to spend a whole male bad question on it, but for anybody potentially concerned that he's going to the Astros, he's signed a three year deal, but there's opt-outs after every year of the deal.
23:16 --> 23:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Scott Boris special.
23:17 --> 23:24 [SPEAKER_01]: So that basically means if he's good, all right, you deal with him for one year and then he's going somewhere else, or if he's bad, then he's bad.
23:24 --> 23:25 [SPEAKER_01]: So who cares?
23:26 --> 23:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Next question comes from Graham on Patreon, Graham's question is, what do you feel like is the likelihood that Dan Wilson has reviewed the 20-25 season with the new coaching staff members and learned what decisions potentially cost them games?
23:42 --> 23:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Man, I don't know.
23:43 --> 23:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope so, and Graham, very good question all the way from Australia by the way, Graham is the absolute man.
23:49 --> 23:52 [SPEAKER_01]: But for this,
23:53 --> 23:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
23:54 --> 23:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
23:55 --> 23:59 [SPEAKER_01]: You have to be guessing or you might have to have some insight information to know.
24:00 --> 24:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I can't sit in here and say, we know anything about potential closed door meetings that have gone on about how to improve in game management for 2026.
24:07 --> 24:11 [SPEAKER_01]: The only thing you can say to yourself is, I hope so.
24:11 --> 24:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Because as we said on Wednesday's podcast for our New Year's resolutions, we can't have another season where Dan Wilson manages games like that because it costs them way, way, way too many times, including in the playoffs.
24:22 --> 24:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's likely they've sat down and reviewed these things.
24:26 --> 24:32 [SPEAKER_00]: The real question is, do they, or are they going to change the process that led to those decisions?
24:33 --> 24:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
24:34 --> 24:34 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the question.
24:35 --> 24:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, they reviewed it.
24:36 --> 24:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure I'm sure game seven burned a hole with up and down the mayor's entire organization and they're sitting there thinking of how they're going to change course and make sure they make the right decisions next time and win that game seven.
24:51 --> 25:01 [SPEAKER_00]: The quiet that leads to next year are they going to make different decisions or they're going to make similar decisions because they believe their process was right, that's the question.
25:02 --> 25:16 [SPEAKER_00]: And I guess to be fair, even after game one with carry car, by the way, did you see someone is leaving us a comment on YouTube every single day to get us to talk about a trade for carry carpenter?
25:18 --> 25:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that'd be sick, but maybe if the news is slow enough, we can entertain the idea.
25:26 --> 25:41 [SPEAKER_01]: But I was going to say, even after that whole debacle in game one of the ALDS where they did not put Gabe's fire into the game, when Carbinger came up a third time, they didn't do that again in the rest of that series, which thank God, or I might have lost it.
25:42 --> 25:44 [SPEAKER_01]: They didn't do that again the rest of the ALDS.
25:44 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_01]: After that happened, it was Gabe Spire each of the next two times we're in that situation you were facing carpenter for the third time.
25:52 --> 25:56 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see, and again they had in that game one, they had a game up and ready.
25:57 --> 25:59 [SPEAKER_00]: The face carry carpenter, they just didn't put him in the game.
25:59 --> 26:05 [SPEAKER_00]: So again, something triggered the thought of putting a lefty in against carry carpenter and they decided against it.
26:05 --> 26:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Why?
26:06 --> 26:06 [SPEAKER_00]: No idea.
26:07 --> 26:09 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's the answer to that.
26:10 --> 26:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for the question, Graham.
26:12 --> 26:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Second to last question comes from Pucci Delgado on Patreon.
26:17 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a good question.
26:18 --> 26:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Which Mariners minor-leager is your lottery ticket for 2026?
26:22 --> 26:26 [SPEAKER_00]: So does this have to be somebody that makes the big leagues?
26:27 --> 26:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Not this year, no.
26:28 --> 26:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And within the next few years.
26:30 --> 26:36 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm actually glad this one got asked because we were asked a couple of mail bags ago about
26:37 --> 26:42 [SPEAKER_01]: favorite minor league prospects that are not on the top 30 list and obviously it's a hard group of guys to try to come up with.
26:42 --> 26:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I did realize I missed one and I'm definitely going to use him here as my lottery ticket because not only is he a friend of the pod, but he pitched really well before he got injured last year and his name's Matt Tiberia.
26:55 --> 26:56 [SPEAKER_01]: He's in low-ay.
26:57 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_01]: He was in Modesto last season.
26:58 --> 27:06 [SPEAKER_01]: He was a college guy through a couple of different
27:07 --> 27:12 [SPEAKER_01]: And he put up a ERA of 227 before he got hurt and 10 starts last year.
27:13 --> 27:17 [SPEAKER_01]: He put up a 227 ERA and the stuff played.
27:17 --> 27:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he has the low release a little bit like woodas and he had real effect last year.
27:23 --> 27:25 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know what he's gonna look like in year two.
27:25 --> 27:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm excited to see, but the numbers were really good.
27:29 --> 27:34 [SPEAKER_01]: the he can miss some bats and he's a slept on guy.
27:34 --> 27:37 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'll be really I'll be really fascinated to see what he does next here.
27:37 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_00]: I showed a little higher this guy is in the Mariners top 30 prospects and he is a friend of the podcast because he's been on the podcast.
27:45 --> 27:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought of lottery ticket and I thought of Nicky Becker because lottery tickets are at this point a long shot for like potential boom in the future.
27:56 --> 28:02 [SPEAKER_00]: And right now what we know about Nicky Becker is that he is a second round draft pick out of high school.
28:02 --> 28:13 [SPEAKER_00]: High school draft picks have a very high volatility rate in the MLB draft and Nicky has a long way to go to become a great major
28:13 --> 28:33 [SPEAKER_00]: But the thing that always sticks my head with him is that we talked with Joe Doyle about him after after the draft and the comparison that Joe made to Nicky in terms of like the the best case scenario prospect comparison with this was gunner Henderson because
28:33 --> 28:45 [SPEAKER_00]: He said, look, you're drafting a guy in the second round who has a ton of tools and then you have to develop him right in the minor leagues where he hits his 100th percentile outcome once he makes it to the major leagues.
28:46 --> 28:48 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what the Orioles did with Gunnar Henderson.
28:48 --> 29:06 [SPEAKER_00]: And what the mariners are gonna try and do is are gonna take this kid who's six foot four and runs like the wind and make him a power speed combo that plays up the middle in potentially three years from now that can be a very, very, very good major league or in a prospect in all the baseball.
29:06 --> 29:07 [SPEAKER_00]: He has the potential to do it.
29:08 --> 29:11 [SPEAKER_00]: He just needs to now develop and do it.
29:11 --> 29:15 [SPEAKER_00]: So what I think of lottery ticket, I thought that was a pretty, pretty reasonable one.
29:15 --> 29:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, see, I didn't shoot that high because when you think about lottery tickets in a trade, I feel like it's not somebody like him who has a serious case to have a very good big lead career.
29:26 --> 29:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I think of somebody like
29:28 --> 29:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Geter Martinez was a lottery ticket.
29:31 --> 29:36 [SPEAKER_01]: When they traded him for Caleb Ferguson, that's what I feel like usually gets looped into the case of a lottery ticket.
29:36 --> 29:36 [SPEAKER_01]: We're Nicky Becker.
29:37 --> 29:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he got overslotted in the second round.
29:39 --> 29:45 [SPEAKER_01]: AKA, he was a first round talent who the Mariners got to their pick in the second round and believe can be a star.
29:46 --> 29:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess I try to think of something that's a little more slept on.
29:50 --> 30:01 [SPEAKER_00]: That's fair, right now those since Nikki Becker hasn't played any major league baseball or played any professional baseball period, I would still, I'd still put him as, he, he put a few games.
30:03 --> 30:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Or, okay, very, very small amount of, of, of games.
30:07 --> 30:09 [SPEAKER_00]: He, he, he's, he's still unknown.
30:09 --> 30:11 [SPEAKER_00]: You, still qualify him as an unknown, correct?
30:12 --> 30:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, well, yeah, we're gonna have to see what he does over a couple minor league seasons.
30:16 --> 30:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
30:16 --> 30:18 [SPEAKER_00]: So Lottery ticket for me, unknown.
30:19 --> 30:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Right now, if you were to put him in a trade package, the other team would talk about him being an un... like, a Lottery ticket.
30:26 --> 30:28 [SPEAKER_00]: That they would throw in there and hope he develops.
30:28 --> 30:31 [SPEAKER_01]: But, he's not viewed the same way as Geter Martinez.
30:31 --> 30:34 [SPEAKER_01]: He could be a real piece of a trade if you're talking about an actual trade.
30:35 --> 30:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Right now.
30:36 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, again, six months ago, eight months ago, he was considered a first round talent.
30:42 --> 30:43 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not nothing.
30:44 --> 30:49 [SPEAKER_00]: But, but I don't think today he would be the centerpiece of a trade.
30:49 --> 30:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Because he's not a top one.
30:51 --> 30:57 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not a top 100 prospect right now and he's again barely played any professional baseball.
30:57 --> 31:09 [SPEAKER_00]: What you would be taking a swing on is, like, like, the mariner's taking a swing on, is that he develops, but he would be, like, he would be the third prospect he would include in a trade, not, not even the second one.
31:09 --> 31:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think.
31:11 --> 31:14 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, right now on Pipeline, he's number 13 in the mariner's top 30.
31:15 --> 31:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, just because he hasn't played.
31:17 --> 31:19 [SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly my point.
31:19 --> 31:22 [SPEAKER_00]: At this time, next year, totally different story, but right now, yeah.
31:23 --> 31:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I view him as a little higher than that, but that's fine.
31:27 --> 31:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I've viewed it as somebody who's really a lot more slept on rather than again.
31:30 --> 31:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Somebody who was the first round town to last year, that's all.
31:34 --> 31:34 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
31:34 --> 31:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Fair point.
31:35 --> 31:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Final question comes from Channing Martin on YouTube, and the question is, when the M.S.I.
31:41 --> 31:48 [SPEAKER_00]: and Cal Raleigh and Josh Nailer, what specifically I need to zoom and look at this question, what specifically
31:48 --> 31:55 [SPEAKER_00]: did they tell them to make sure they would know that they were seriously trying to contend so far do you think the Mariners were being dishonest with that?
31:57 --> 32:21 [SPEAKER_01]: what did they tell them man i i've always said i would have loved to be a fly on the wall in that three hour meeting it's spring training last year between cal rally who didn't even change out of his baseball clothes and was still in his baseball pants hat everything and jerry depoto and jussin holander is apparently sitting up in one of those sweets it's spring training and cal wanted to know that they had full buy-in to winning if he was going to commit to this team long-term what you did
32:22 --> 32:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember them talking about they talked a lot about some of the prospects and the system that were coming up and they expected to really contribute.
32:30 --> 32:42 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to also assume Cal at the very least made sure that there was going to be room in the budget to acquire impact players when they needed to because that's what it takes to win.
32:43 --> 32:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think the Mariners have been dishonest about that so far.
32:46 --> 32:54 [SPEAKER_01]: If people weren't happy inside that clubhouse about last offseason, which, again, there were stories written about it, that we know they weren't, that we know there were players that were not happy about last offseason.
32:55 --> 33:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think since then, since Cal had that conversation and you look at the time table between that and now.
33:00 --> 33:04 [SPEAKER_01]: They've kept their word, because in time, in that time span, they have traded for Josh Nailer.
33:05 --> 33:07 [SPEAKER_01]: They traded for Gino, who at the time was the top guy on the market.
33:08 --> 33:10 [SPEAKER_01]: They extended Josh, well, resigned Josh Nailer.
33:11 --> 33:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I think so far, they've kept to their word, and they've also got prospects coming.
33:15 --> 33:17 [SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna have to continue to do so.
33:17 --> 33:23 [SPEAKER_01]: It can't be a one-year thing where they go for it once and then are out, because then you're right.
33:23 --> 33:24 [SPEAKER_01]: That would be totally dishonest.
33:24 --> 33:27 [SPEAKER_01]: But up to this point, yeah, I'd say so.
33:28 --> 33:29 [SPEAKER_00]: They have not been dishonest.
33:29 --> 33:34 [SPEAKER_00]: And with all that, they went the farthest in the posties and they ever have.
33:34 --> 33:43 [SPEAKER_00]: That feels like a pretty good first year, first year, what's a great way to put it?
33:43 --> 33:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, they were right about what they told Cal.
33:46 --> 34:02 [SPEAKER_00]: selling him to sign that extension before last season, because everything that they told him that hey, we're investing and we're expecting to see results from this happened, Nailor, Geno, game seven of the ALCS and Cal having historic season as well.
34:02 --> 34:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Like when all of these pieces come together, they say, look, like when we take this seriously, things do work.
34:09 --> 34:15 [SPEAKER_00]: So trust us on this and that was probably a decent part of their sales pitch to Josh Nailor, like look,
34:15 --> 34:33 [SPEAKER_00]: We have the farm system, we have, we're willing to commit financially to you and willing to commit financially the rest of the soft season, which I mean, they haven't yet, but if they trade for Brennan Donovan, they will be adding some salary and they will be getting better.
34:34 --> 34:38 [SPEAKER_00]: And then they're going to go out of the next trade deadline and also be active because we anticipate they're going to be good.
34:38 --> 34:40 [SPEAKER_00]: So one year, they were right.
34:41 --> 34:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is what they told them.
34:42 --> 34:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Like we have all these resources.
34:44 --> 34:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Let us use them yet, but let us use them in the future and they certainly did and they paid off.
34:50 --> 34:52 [SPEAKER_00]: And now you have a bunch of very happy players.
34:53 --> 34:58 [SPEAKER_00]: And on top of that, they can show that, we already signed an extended Julio.
34:58 --> 35:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Sign an extended Luis Castillo, we're willing to put our best foot forward for our best players and invest in them, and that matters too.
35:06 --> 35:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
35:06 --> 35:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, they do have to finish off this off season.
35:09 --> 35:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Getting that last bat is pretty crucial.
35:11 --> 35:14 [SPEAKER_01]: But the Mariners know that, and I think when it's all said and done, they will.
35:14 --> 35:17 [SPEAKER_01]: They'll get one of these impact players.
35:18 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so far they've done what they've been asked to do.
35:24 --> 35:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
35:24 --> 35:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Good batch mailback questions.
35:27 --> 35:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was good.
35:28 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Good first episode of 2026, I'll say, low.
35:32 --> 35:35 [SPEAKER_00]: We are still waiting for that last move.
35:35 --> 35:36 [SPEAKER_00]: We are still waiting.
35:36 --> 35:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I really am looking forward to previewing this season, like starting to talk about some of the storylines upcoming.
35:42 --> 35:46 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we did a good job of with our new year's resolutions on Wednesday.
35:46 --> 35:56 [SPEAKER_00]: How refreshing was that to talk about like the actual team instead of talking about players on other teams
35:56 --> 36:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, how much more can we possibly say about Katelmarté and Brendan Donovan?
36:01 --> 36:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much more we can possibly analyze about these guys that we haven't already said at least multiple times.
36:08 --> 36:09 [SPEAKER_00]: That was very refreshing.
36:09 --> 36:13 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking forward to doing a lot more of that here soon, hopefully in the coming weeks.
36:14 --> 36:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping in the next couple of weeks.
36:15 --> 36:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Here's my to-do list for the Mariners.
36:17 --> 36:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Trade for Brennan Donovan.
36:19 --> 36:23 [SPEAKER_00]: We can do an episode about reacting to Brennan Donovan.
36:23 --> 36:28 [SPEAKER_00]: We could do dive in a little bit more of the episode after on how Brennan Donovan impacts this team.
36:29 --> 36:31 [SPEAKER_00]: And then we can start talking about this upcoming season.
36:31 --> 36:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Because then the off season I feel like would be
36:35 --> 36:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Finished at that point the manners will have gotten a very good offseason where they've gotten better and now they're they're gearing up to go Make it past ALCS this next year and go make it to the world series finally.
36:47 --> 36:49 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what that's what I'm anticipating sure
36:51 --> 37:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope so too, and hopefully not only will we start previewing the season, but hopefully we'll start to get some more guests on here in the new year, I think we're planning too, but it is about that time, it'll be good to start talking to some people, let them preview the season and preview the Mariners from their point of view.
37:07 --> 37:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think we're, I think 2026 is really going to get rolling here in a good way.
37:12 --> 37:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we're up to a good start so far.
37:14 --> 37:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes?
37:15 --> 37:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, I think that's just about wraps up this edition of the Marine Lair pod cast.
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