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00:00 --> 00:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to episode number 351 of the Marine Layer podcast.
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00:54 --> 01:07 [SPEAKER_02]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just baseball podcast network recording here on Thursday evening January 15th and Lala have to start this episode off with a solemn note.
01:07 --> 01:16 [SPEAKER_02]: We have to pour one out to one of the most popular mailbag questions That we would consistently get throughout the course of I think each of the last two seasons.
01:17 --> 01:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what I'm talking about?
01:19 --> 01:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I do.
01:20 --> 01:22 [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't tell me how you were going to start this show.
01:22 --> 01:23 [SPEAKER_02]: No, total mystery.
01:24 --> 01:26 [SPEAKER_02]: I like catching people off guard a little bit.
01:27 --> 01:29 [SPEAKER_02]: The Mariners defaced some odd tailor today.
01:32 --> 01:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Damn.
01:34 --> 01:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I know we would get asked a lot about him coming up.
01:37 --> 01:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they'll bring him back.
01:38 --> 01:39 [SPEAKER_02]: I think they could.
01:39 --> 01:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:39 --> 01:41 [SPEAKER_02]: He could just stay into coming not on the 40 man.
01:42 --> 01:48 [SPEAKER_02]: But a somber day for all of those who say, I'll feel this used for the Mariners right handed
01:49 --> 01:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Isn't some odd tailor in the organization?
01:51 --> 01:52 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
01:52 --> 01:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I really thought he was going to be Terrence Gordering the playoffs.
01:55 --> 01:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I really did, but they didn't do it.
01:57 --> 01:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he didn't even appear in a game.
01:59 --> 02:02 [SPEAKER_01]: No, he wasn't on the roster, I don't think was he?
02:02 --> 02:04 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I didn't think so.
02:04 --> 02:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
02:06 --> 02:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I know, that's too bad.
02:07 --> 02:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Some odds are good, though.
02:08 --> 02:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope he stays in the org.
02:10 --> 02:18 [SPEAKER_02]: And he might, he might just stay in Tacoma and be a non-roster to coma Rainier, which is totally fine.
02:18 --> 02:21 [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of those guys come on and have lots of success.
02:21 --> 02:29 [SPEAKER_02]: And some of these guys have clauses in their contract, or if they're not on the 40 man after a certain amount of time, they'll get released and that could happen to some odd, like,
02:29 --> 02:59 [SPEAKER_02]: they could get to the they could get to the cut-off day of spring training where they got to decide to everyone goes and if some odds not on the 40 man roster could be like I want to release let let someone else come get me totally possible for him and that could that could work out better for him so we'll see for sure although I don't know how many teams out there would definitively give him a bigly roster spot so maybe he's okay going back to Tacoma to an organization he's been in for a couple years now and if he likes it maybe
03:00 --> 03:00 [SPEAKER_01]: They did.
03:00 --> 03:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to try and pronounce his name?
03:04 --> 03:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I know what you're doing here.
03:06 --> 03:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I really do.
03:07 --> 03:12 [SPEAKER_01]: You're asking me if I want to pronounce it because you know how badly you're going to butcher it if you try.
03:12 --> 03:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Now I have the pronunciation in front of me.
03:14 --> 03:15 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm kind of cheating.
03:17 --> 03:18 [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think you do.
03:18 --> 03:19 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, I'll try.
03:19 --> 03:24 [SPEAKER_01]: It's Yosever Zuweta.
03:25 --> 03:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Zuluweta.
03:26 --> 03:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Zuluweta.
03:27 --> 03:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yosever Zuluweta.
03:28 --> 03:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
03:28 --> 03:29 [SPEAKER_02]: There we go.
03:30 --> 03:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I know he throws a sinker ball.
03:32 --> 03:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
03:33 --> 03:38 [SPEAKER_01]: He has a career big league ERA of six, at least that was last year.
03:38 --> 03:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He made seven appearances for the Reds, six ERA, sinker baller.
03:42 --> 03:42 [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
03:43 --> 03:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Chills.
03:45 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_01]: He'll be in spring training.
03:46 --> 03:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll throw some bullpins.
03:47 --> 03:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll get into some games.
03:48 --> 03:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I would assume he's starting into coma.
03:50 --> 03:51 [SPEAKER_01]: But you never know.
03:52 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_01]: We shrugged our shoulders when the Mariners claim Gabe Spire off of waivers a few years ago, and where would they be if they didn't make that waiver claim?
03:59 --> 04:05 [SPEAKER_02]: That was in the early stages of this podcast, and we didn't even talk about it now.
04:06 --> 04:08 [SPEAKER_02]: He'll go and pitch for Team USA.
04:08 --> 04:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I was about to say, we didn't get to talk about that on the last episode because it happened on Wednesday morning after we'd already released the episode.
04:15 --> 04:17 [SPEAKER_01]: You said poor one out for some odd Taylor.
04:17 --> 04:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Can we poor one and raise one and raise a glass for a guy gave Spire?
04:21 --> 04:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, that is so sick.
04:23 --> 04:24 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the coolest story.
04:25 --> 04:28 [SPEAKER_02]: It is a lot of these opportunities that some of these guys get to play for their country.
04:28 --> 04:34 [SPEAKER_02]: For example, their guys in the Mariners organization who have not made the big leagues yet who will get to play for their team.
04:35 --> 04:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Like,
04:38 --> 04:50 [SPEAKER_02]: But Gabe, like the opportunity that Gabe is going to get here, when he gets the call from Mark Drosser to go and be in that bullpen, put our paranoia about the WBC aside for a second.
04:50 --> 04:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, how far he's come in three years?
04:54 --> 05:13 [SPEAKER_02]: from being a mariner's waiver claim without a guaranteed roster spot and he's got to prove himself and then he has the down year last year where we know he's hurt but he spends a lot of the year in the triple and he has to reprove himself after having a great relief season his first year in Seattle and goes out and is even better and then gets rewarded with this has got to feel amazing.
05:13 --> 05:15 [SPEAKER_02]: It's got to feel like the best thing ever.
05:15 --> 05:18 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so cool, so unbelievably cool.
05:19 --> 05:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I understand why people have some reservations about pictures pitching in the WBC, and I understand the Drew Smiley PTSD, believe me.
05:27 --> 05:31 [SPEAKER_01]: But number one, how many innings is Gabe really gonna throw in this tournament?
05:31 --> 05:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Three, four, it's not gonna be a ton.
05:34 --> 05:36 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you can put that aside,
05:37 --> 05:41 [SPEAKER_01]: You can recognize how so unbelievably cool this is for a guy like him.
05:42 --> 05:46 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a little different than Aaron Judge playing, where obviously you know he's going to be on the roster if he wants to be.
05:47 --> 05:59 [SPEAKER_01]: For Gabe, I mean, it's not a redemption story, but just an arc of a career that is impossible not to root for, especially if you ever get to talk to him, who's just the best dude ever.
05:59 --> 06:00 [SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome.
06:00 --> 06:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Can I be nervous for Gabe?
06:02 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think that's there.
06:05 --> 06:06 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want him to get hurt.
06:07 --> 06:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I think this is amazing, but I sit in the social post.
06:10 --> 06:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Everything I think about pitchers throwing in the WBC's the exact same, all of it.
06:16 --> 06:37 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think it can be independent things can be independent I can be so happy for game I can think this is an amazing achievement for him one of the greatest moments of his life that he gets to Suit up in the red white and blue and go pitch in that incredibly fun tournament But also realize that pitching in the WBC is a role of the dice It is
06:38 --> 06:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I think it's been easier on relievers than starters for the most part, as long as Gabe is, you know, he doesn't have an Edwin Diaz moment where he's jumping around celebrating and then all of a sudden he has a season-ending injury, which most people do not have because that was such a freak thing that happened with Eddie.
06:53 --> 06:58 [SPEAKER_01]: But maybe we can ask him about it, down at spring training.
06:58 --> 07:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Because spoiler, I mean, we have an escape about it yet, but I'll put it out
07:05 --> 07:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess into the ether, is that the right term the ether?
07:08 --> 07:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, ether, or the ether.
07:09 --> 07:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll put it out there into the ether for the people.
07:12 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to try to get a game on.
07:13 --> 07:14 [SPEAKER_01]: It's spring training.
07:14 --> 07:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Seems like a pretty good time to have them back on.
07:16 --> 07:18 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been a little bit since we've had them on.
07:18 --> 07:19 [SPEAKER_01]: The actual podcast.
07:20 --> 07:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe this is something you can ask them when we have them on.
07:23 --> 07:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, Cal, you are no longer Captain America.
07:25 --> 07:27 [SPEAKER_02]: That title goes to Gapespire.
07:27 --> 07:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
07:28 --> 07:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
07:29 --> 07:33 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm sure this is a question that a lot of fans are going to have, right?
07:34 --> 07:39 [SPEAKER_01]: People are extremely happy for him, but fans naturally get a little bit nervous about guys throwing in this tournament.
07:39 --> 07:40 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure we can ask Gabe about it.
07:40 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, how do you ramp up differently?
07:42 --> 07:43 [SPEAKER_01]: How do you prepare differently?
07:43 --> 07:48 [SPEAKER_01]: How do you make sure you're gonna be at a good spot for the full 162 in the playoffs, even pairing with this tournament?
07:49 --> 07:50 [SPEAKER_01]: It'll be interesting.
07:50 --> 07:52 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sure Gabe will have an answer.
07:52 --> 07:58 [SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna get down there a little bit earlier than the rest of the group, because the Mariners released their spring training dates today for pictures and catchers reporting.
07:59 --> 08:04 [SPEAKER_01]: And all of the WBC guys get there a little bit earlier than the rest of the pack.
08:04 --> 08:22 [SPEAKER_01]: WBC pitchers and catchers get there a couple days before the rest of the pitchers and catchers and then WBC position players get there a little bit before the rest of the group of position players So I'm sure that's part of what game will be doing to help help himself ramp up and be in a good spot Gabe Mooney and Cal Am I missing anybody?
08:23 --> 08:25 [SPEAKER_02]: DRAGELO Brash
08:26 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, when you talk about guys that haven't even made their Big League debut yet, that'll be playing in the WVC, you can throw Michael O'Royo into that because they'll probably play for Columbia, but he won't be down there in that with that first batch.
08:37 --> 08:46 [SPEAKER_02]: It'll be Durangelo, it'll be Gabe, it'll be Muñoz, it'll be Cal, and Brash, and Brash.
08:46 --> 08:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
08:47 --> 08:47 [SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty good.
08:48 --> 08:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and Cesardo.
08:49 --> 08:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Did Bizarro make Venezuela?
08:50 --> 08:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right.
08:51 --> 08:53 [SPEAKER_01]: He's probably going to pitch for Venezuela.
08:53 --> 08:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
08:54 --> 08:56 [SPEAKER_02]: It's an exciting group, I'm happy for them.
08:57 --> 09:01 [SPEAKER_02]: I am, I can't cross back what I said, though.
09:01 --> 09:03 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't, I can't be a flip flopper.
09:04 --> 09:05 [SPEAKER_02]: No one likes a flip flopper.
09:05 --> 09:06 [SPEAKER_02]: You've got to stay consistent.
09:06 --> 09:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, I have to stay consistent here.
09:08 --> 09:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I can.
09:09 --> 09:12 [SPEAKER_01]: You can tell Gabe that yourself, down spring training, Gabe, I am thrilled for you.
09:12 --> 09:13 [SPEAKER_01]: This is awesome.
09:14 --> 09:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Please don't get hurt.
09:15 --> 09:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like, I'm nervous as fuck right now.
09:16 --> 09:18 [SPEAKER_02]: What are you gonna do to call me down?
09:18 --> 09:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, please don't get hurt.
09:20 --> 09:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Please.
09:21 --> 09:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you have anything else or we'll get into the mail bag?
09:24 --> 09:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, there was another Brendan Donovan rumor today.
09:28 --> 09:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, I'm not even going to say his name.
09:30 --> 09:30 [SPEAKER_02]: I refuse to say his name.
09:31 --> 09:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, basically, basically Ken Rose.
09:33 --> 09:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to send that.
09:35 --> 09:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Donovan.
09:35 --> 09:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Donovan.
09:36 --> 09:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Donovan.
09:37 --> 09:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll spend 30 seconds on this.
09:39 --> 09:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Ken Rosenthall was asked to mail back a question on falteratory here on Thursday.
09:43 --> 09:46 [SPEAKER_01]: He was asked if Donovan still makes the most sense for Seattle.
09:47 --> 09:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry.
09:47 --> 09:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, name redacted.
09:48 --> 09:49 [SPEAKER_01]: My bad.
09:49 --> 09:51 [SPEAKER_01]: If name redacted, still the best fit for Seattle.
09:52 --> 09:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And Rosenthall said him and Lars Nupar of all people, he could see in a package.
09:57 --> 09:58 [SPEAKER_01]: going to the Mariners.
09:59 --> 10:00 [SPEAKER_01]: And I will leave it at that.
10:01 --> 10:02 [SPEAKER_01]: We like Lars Newbar a ton.
10:02 --> 10:04 [SPEAKER_01]: We got to talk to him late last year.
10:04 --> 10:05 [SPEAKER_01]: He was awesome.
10:05 --> 10:06 [SPEAKER_01]: He was the absolute man.
10:06 --> 10:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that would be sick just from a content perspective for our own selfish sake.
10:10 --> 10:17 [SPEAKER_01]: If he was here from a baseball perspective, I don't know how another right fielder fits into this mix left handed hitting right fielder.
10:17 --> 10:17 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
10:18 --> 10:19 [SPEAKER_01]: And we can leave it at that.
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11:43 --> 12:01 [SPEAKER_02]: You just got to go to our patreon patreon dot com slash marine lair pod go check it out first question on the mailbag comes from Michael and michael's Not like in what he's seeing at this point of the off season he is saying that front office is being a little bit too timid with their actions and not putting their final step forward
12:01 --> 12:05 [SPEAKER_02]: He says he says this strategy feels like a stupid gamble.
12:05 --> 12:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you guys think that this is consciously the front office strategy of how they're approaching the off season?
12:11 --> 12:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Just play slightly over 500 ball for this upcoming season.
12:15 --> 12:21 [SPEAKER_02]: And then through the All Star Break and then make a big splash when everyone's value is lower at the trade deadline.
12:23 --> 12:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much I can say in response to Michael.
12:26 --> 12:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I basically agree with everything he's saying.
12:28 --> 12:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't like this strategy.
12:30 --> 12:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't like the idea of rolling into camp and into the regular season with this current roster.
12:34 --> 12:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying they can't be good.
12:36 --> 12:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying they won't be good.
12:37 --> 12:39 [SPEAKER_01]: They'll probably still be AL West favorites.
12:39 --> 12:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Vegas still has them as that with this current roster.
12:42 --> 12:45 [SPEAKER_01]: But no, in terms of winning the world series, I don't like the idea of,
12:46 --> 13:00 [SPEAKER_01]: basically trying to gamble on the first four months of the season, maybe gambles of harsh word, and it's not that extreme, but trying to play through the first four months of the season with this roster, be a bat short and hope you get it at the trade deadline.
13:00 --> 13:02 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I would go get another bat.
13:02 --> 13:02 [SPEAKER_01]: It goes up to me.
13:02 --> 13:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I go get two more proven established bats.
13:06 --> 13:08 [SPEAKER_01]: This is how the Mariners operate.
13:08 --> 13:14 [SPEAKER_01]: If we've learned anything about this regime, they don't go out and try to win the off season.
13:14 --> 13:14 [SPEAKER_01]: They just don't.
13:14 --> 13:16 [SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to do what the blue jays are doing.
13:17 --> 13:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So I hope they go get one more bat.
13:20 --> 13:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope it is name redacted at this point because he seems like the most viable option.
13:25 --> 13:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you're at a point at the deadline.
13:27 --> 13:30 [SPEAKER_01]: We're, yeah, you really go get aggressive and get a couple more significant pieces.
13:31 --> 13:32 [SPEAKER_01]: But I'm with you, Michael.
13:32 --> 13:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I would not deploy this strategy if it was me.
13:36 --> 13:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you think this is the front office of strategy?
13:39 --> 13:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we know what it really is about.
13:42 --> 13:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I just wanted to clarify that because that's how I saw this.
13:45 --> 13:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think this is the front office of strategy.
13:47 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I think this is ownership strategy of what they're willing to invest into the roster, which is not enough to sign a boba-shet or an Alex Breggman.
13:59 --> 14:00 [SPEAKER_02]: maybe enough for Cal Tucker.
14:00 --> 14:02 [SPEAKER_02]: The the offers are getting really high.
14:02 --> 14:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
14:03 --> 14:04 [SPEAKER_02]: On K Duck.
14:04 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Which by the way, this this decision is supposed to come down in the next day or two, they're saying they say it could be by all recording.
14:13 --> 14:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I was just thinking that either people get a live reaction while we're recording here on Thursday evening or it'll happen this weekend.
14:22 --> 14:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And if it happens this weekend, I'll tell you what, I'm going to get my paper bag ready with the
14:28 --> 14:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, Doug.
14:29 --> 14:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll see.
14:30 --> 14:31 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not done.
14:31 --> 14:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, the mayor's could be sleeping in the shadows all this time, like I've, uh, long believed.
14:36 --> 14:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I also think off seasons, or have been.
14:41 --> 14:43 [SPEAKER_02]: off seasons have been kind of neutered a little bit.
14:44 --> 14:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't I feel like with the expanded playoff.
14:47 --> 15:04 [SPEAKER_02]: There's been less reason for teams to move players that they really like in the off season because like 80% of teams in the off season think they have a chance to compete this year and don't have a solid reason to trade good players.
15:05 --> 15:07 [SPEAKER_02]: We even have the example of like this off season.
15:07 --> 15:30 [SPEAKER_02]: the cubs are like really good now so they're not going to trade to go horn or but the katel marté example like the diamond backs still have a chance to compete with katel marté so they're like sure we're not trading katel marté that's that's not a chance the maros can't control whether or not players are available on the trademarker which seemed like they were more available in the past than they are currently
15:32 --> 15:37 [SPEAKER_02]: But also when you don't invest in free agents, this is the only time free agents are available.
15:38 --> 15:45 [SPEAKER_02]: And when that's not part of your long-term strategy, consistently year over year, then yeah, there's gonna be less action.
15:45 --> 15:46 [SPEAKER_02]: One more thing.
15:47 --> 15:51 [SPEAKER_02]: The trade deadline has something that the offseason does not, which always forces action.
15:52 --> 15:55 [SPEAKER_02]: A deadline, deadlines always force action.
15:55 --> 15:58 [SPEAKER_02]: They always make teams, make moves, it forces you to make a decision.
15:59 --> 16:02 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to make a decision at all during the offseason if you don't want to.
16:02 --> 16:04 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no reason to.
16:05 --> 16:14 [SPEAKER_01]: and the trade deadline will cause some desperation for teams that are going to sell because by the time you get to let you lie, they're going to be more than 20% of the teams that say, you know what guys?
16:14 --> 16:16 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not in the cards this year.
16:16 --> 16:18 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll trade some of our pieces off for prospects.
16:18 --> 16:22 [SPEAKER_01]: And the Mariners know that and there's a reason they capitalize on the deadline every year.
16:22 --> 16:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Three of the last four years they've had really good deadlines with Louise, with Randy, and obviously this past off season, or this past deadline with Naylor and Geno.
16:32 --> 16:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, like, if this was up to me, I would be going and doing a lot more in the off-season.
16:37 --> 16:46 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is what happens when you de facto ignore free agency, you cut yourself off to essentially just the trade route and when teams don't want to trade, you're shit out of luck a lot of times.
16:47 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I would not deploy this strategy, but unfortunately, this is how the owners choose to operate.
16:53 --> 16:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Motherfucker just happened.
16:57 --> 16:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Did it?
16:57 --> 16:59 [SPEAKER_01]: To the fucking Dodgers!
17:00 --> 17:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh no.
17:01 --> 17:02 [SPEAKER_02]: No, you're not serious.
17:02 --> 17:04 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm fucking serious.
17:05 --> 17:05 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not serious.
17:06 --> 17:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Fucking Lord dude.
17:07 --> 17:08 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not serious.
17:08 --> 17:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I am.
17:09 --> 17:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Go fuck.
17:14 --> 17:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh no, if I have the fucking paper bag next to me right now, oh no, on my head with the fucking sad face, that is a team that wants to win.
17:28 --> 17:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you that right now.
17:30 --> 17:32 [SPEAKER_00]: That team wants to win.
17:32 --> 17:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And that is a team that cares about going to get somebody like Kyle Tucker.
17:40 --> 17:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I just took a picture, I had to take a picture to send to our, uh, to our Dodgers friend.
17:50 --> 17:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Whoah!
17:50 --> 17:51 [SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, thoughts?
17:52 --> 17:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Terrible.
17:53 --> 17:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, unacceptable.
17:56 --> 17:59 [SPEAKER_01]: That Etsy witch I paid, I want my seven bucks back.
18:02 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_01]: They said they work.
18:03 --> 18:06 [SPEAKER_01]: These Etsy witches are frauds, like I always believed.
18:08 --> 18:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I, I didn't pay that money for nothing.
18:11 --> 18:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I did not pay that money for nothing.
18:12 --> 18:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I said, bring me Kyle Tucker and those Etsy witches failed.
18:17 --> 18:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, do you know what's gonna happen?
18:20 --> 18:24 [SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna do some content planning right here live recording on the podcast.
18:24 --> 18:29 [SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna get off this podcast and you're pulling your reaction to this and posting it.
18:29 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_02]: ASAP.
18:31 --> 18:32 [SPEAKER_01]: We are, yes.
18:32 --> 18:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
18:34 --> 18:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
18:34 --> 18:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Damn it!
18:36 --> 18:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Damn it!
18:38 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Unexceptible.
18:41 --> 18:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's gonna be, that's gonna be like a three year deal, too, that he's about to sign.
18:46 --> 18:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't be shocked if they paid, they up to the Metz because the Metz deals with three years for 50 million a pop.
18:51 --> 18:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't be shocked if the Dodgers went, three years, three years, like 55 million, they defer a shit ton of it.
18:59 --> 19:03 [SPEAKER_02]: So K-Tut can retire early and still get his passive income.
19:05 --> 19:06 [SPEAKER_02]: What else just happened?
19:06 --> 19:07 [SPEAKER_02]: There was another trade.
19:07 --> 19:08 [SPEAKER_02]: There's just another trader.
19:09 --> 19:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
19:09 --> 19:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Jerry needs to get in on this.
19:10 --> 19:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Three-way trade, Tampa Cincinnati, and the angels are an agreement that would send Josh low to the angels, Gavin Lux and Chris Clark to the raise and well.
19:19 --> 19:20 [SPEAKER_02]: That's just a lot of movement.
19:21 --> 19:24 [SPEAKER_01]: And Brock Burke to the Reds, who in the past has been really good, but that one's not important.
19:25 --> 19:27 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
19:29 --> 19:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Damn it!
19:30 --> 19:31 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
19:31 --> 19:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I have them happy this happened while we're recording because this is as raw reaction as you can possibly get.
19:35 --> 19:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I might have been worse if we hadn't been recording.
19:39 --> 19:40 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what, man?
19:40 --> 19:43 [SPEAKER_01]: This is why sports are dumb.
19:43 --> 19:45 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't get your fucking hopes up for anything.
19:45 --> 19:51 [SPEAKER_01]: That is, that is two years of blood sweat and tears actually more than that.
19:51 --> 19:55 [SPEAKER_01]: More than two years of blood sweat and tears I poured into Kyle Tucker, dude.
19:56 --> 20:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Did this transaction just guarantee we're not getting a game next year?
20:02 --> 20:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what?
20:03 --> 20:04 [SPEAKER_02]: We're not getting a game next year.
20:06 --> 20:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Play a game.
20:07 --> 20:07 [SPEAKER_01]: A game for what?
20:08 --> 20:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Major League Baseball.
20:11 --> 20:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Damn shit.
20:14 --> 20:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, teams are going to be pissed.
20:16 --> 20:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure.
20:17 --> 20:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, I could imagine like.
20:21 --> 20:23 [SPEAKER_01]: The Dodgers don't even need Kyle Tucker.
20:24 --> 20:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, they've won back to back without him.
20:28 --> 20:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh shit, and I just clicked the gate our friends over at gate 14 are going to be furious Should we check in on how Johnny due to is doing man this podcast went off the rails fast.
20:40 --> 20:42 [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't know this is going to happen while we're recording
20:44 --> 20:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Johnny.
20:45 --> 20:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's Otani all over again, dog.
20:48 --> 20:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude, how does this happen?
20:49 --> 20:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
20:50 --> 20:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Let me stop here.
20:50 --> 20:52 [SPEAKER_01]: The Blue Day is about a very good option.
20:52 --> 20:52 [SPEAKER_01]: They've killed it.
20:53 --> 20:56 [SPEAKER_01]: However, how does this happen with every mega free agent and the Blue Jays?
20:56 --> 21:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Show hay and soda and roky and Tucker and who else am I forgetting?
21:01 --> 21:02 [SPEAKER_01]: It just keeps happening.
21:06 --> 21:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Dude.
21:08 --> 21:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Where are we?
21:08 --> 21:09 [SPEAKER_02]: We need to see this contract.
21:09 --> 21:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm fast-knit.
21:13 --> 21:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, dude, that is brutal.
21:17 --> 21:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, Doug.
21:19 --> 21:20 [SPEAKER_02]: There will be no hiking this year.
21:20 --> 21:21 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm heartbroken.
21:21 --> 21:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I really wanted to see you hike up a mountain.
21:23 --> 21:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Do think about how legendary that vlog would have been.
21:27 --> 21:31 [SPEAKER_01]: If I had to be forced to hike, I would have done it too for that man.
21:31 --> 21:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I would have done it.
21:36 --> 21:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, do you think you can continue with this mailback?
21:38 --> 21:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Are you gonna need a, do we need to get you a break?
21:42 --> 21:43 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't need a break.
21:44 --> 21:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's keep answering mail bag questions because the Mariners have a season to play.
21:50 --> 21:56 [SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be de facto ended by the Dodgers one way or another, either in the world series or before that when they just get eliminated.
21:56 --> 22:01 [SPEAKER_01]: But again, you know, oh, it's being a sports fan.
22:01 --> 22:02 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just the worst thing ever, you know?
22:03 --> 22:05 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a waste of people's time.
22:05 --> 22:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Sad.
22:07 --> 22:11 [SPEAKER_01]: This is, it's, it's, it's embarrassing.
22:11 --> 22:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Why, why do I waste my time being a fan of sports?
22:14 --> 22:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Stupid.
22:18 --> 22:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I, I want to see that other than I could have ever imagined.
22:22 --> 22:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to see that offer from the Mariners, which probably didn't exist.
22:25 --> 22:29 [SPEAKER_01]: But... Definitely didn't exist.
22:31 --> 22:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Unacceptable.
22:32 --> 22:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, Dodgers want to win?
22:35 --> 22:36 [SPEAKER_02]: They do?
22:36 --> 22:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Hatch it to them, I honestly as much as they're worth.
22:40 --> 22:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I still have no idea where they keep getting the money from.
22:43 --> 22:50 [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to have to pay even more, like, is there like normal salary now going to be over like $400 million?
22:50 --> 22:54 [SPEAKER_02]: And then they're going to pay what another $200 million in tax?
22:56 --> 22:56 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't care.
22:56 --> 22:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know how much money do you know?
22:58 --> 23:01 [SPEAKER_02]: It must be making them so much money.
23:03 --> 23:06 [SPEAKER_02]: To, to, to make this transparent.
23:06 --> 23:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
23:07 --> 23:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Most teams in baseball allow cannot do what the Dodgers are doing.
23:10 --> 23:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
23:11 --> 23:12 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
23:12 --> 23:12 [SPEAKER_02]: They cannot.
23:13 --> 23:16 [SPEAKER_02]: He co-an invested on his casino, too early.
23:16 --> 23:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe if he wasn't investing in his casino, he could have spared some cash for K-tuck.
23:20 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I have to tweet out this photo naturally.
23:24 --> 23:25 [SPEAKER_02]: The one I just took of you.
23:25 --> 23:28 [SPEAKER_01]: No, the one that one of my other friends are one of our other.
23:28 --> 23:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, yes.
23:30 --> 23:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll hold it up to the cameras.
23:31 --> 23:39 [SPEAKER_02]: You're about to tweet it up for all those of you looking just a great all-time photo Of you would think this is when K-Tuck signed.
23:39 --> 23:54 [SPEAKER_02]: It was not but Maybe that's what it would have looked like if we were recording Oh my goodness god, that's so good
24:11 --> 24:25 [SPEAKER_02]: uh Josh wants to know uh who has the largest uh amount of ceiling remaining amongst any picture in the Mariners starting rotation currently, not who has the highest ceiling, but who has the most room to reach their ceiling?
24:28 --> 24:31 [SPEAKER_01]: It is probably um George Kirby.
24:32 --> 24:34 [SPEAKER_01]: as I sit here and think about the Mariners rotation.
24:34 --> 24:40 [SPEAKER_01]: It is probably curvy because Kirby has not quite reached the peak that people think he is capable of reaching it.
24:41 --> 24:42 [SPEAKER_01]: We've seen Logan do it.
24:42 --> 24:43 [SPEAKER_01]: We've seen Wu do it.
24:43 --> 24:47 [SPEAKER_01]: We've seen, I mean even Bryce in 2024 had a glimpse of it.
24:48 --> 24:51 [SPEAKER_01]: But for even the four win seasons that Kirby's had,
24:51 --> 24:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I think we still know there's more in the tank, right?
24:53 --> 25:02 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think we know that he could have a legit, sai-young season if he just finds a way to miss some more bats, maybe not be so in the zone as often.
25:02 --> 25:08 [SPEAKER_01]: But for a guy that throws as many strikes as him with the stuff that he has, he can still take the leap.
25:08 --> 25:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd say he has the biggest room that still take a leap.
25:11 --> 25:12 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just going to have to find an out pitch.
25:13 --> 25:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, maybe be a little bit less in the zone.
25:16 --> 25:24 [SPEAKER_02]: the way I put it is curbies the only one in that rotation with the ace stuff who hasn't shown that it could be an ace for a full season.
25:24 --> 25:46 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't I don't think Bryce has that like he's got like two starter level stuff Woo has shown a stuff Logan has shown a stuff Kirby at times has shown a stuff given that he could strike out 14 batters in a game and throw a hundred miles an hour with multiple breaking balls and a deeper arsenal than Bryce has
25:46 --> 25:48 [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, I'm with you.
25:48 --> 25:49 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's, I think it's Kirby.
25:49 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_02]: I hope we see it this season.
25:50 --> 25:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll make a huge difference.
25:51 --> 25:58 [SPEAKER_02]: So the Mariners could get their third different A's and three seasons, and maybe offset the fact that the Dodgers now have Kyle Tucker.
25:58 --> 25:59 [SPEAKER_02]: And the Mariners don't.
26:02 --> 26:05 [SPEAKER_01]: You're like getting to just go full-frag the tank on this pod.
26:05 --> 26:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, if honestly, you should be giving me credit.
26:08 --> 26:11 [SPEAKER_01]: And what does Dale say in stepbrothers, I was at about six there.
26:11 --> 26:14 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to see me go to ten.
26:16 --> 26:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I hope Kobe finds a way to really have a breakout year this year because he can he can do it like he was a little bit less in his own last year, which was a good first step that he didn't he wasn't so locked in on like he wasn't so sad on throwing as many strikes, but again the outpitch is the key here
26:36 --> 26:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm like, I'm dead serious with what I say about like, if the Mariners are able to unlock a third ace in the rotation, yeah, they're not going to spend as much money as the Dodgers, but having three potential aces in your rotation is a huge plus.
26:50 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_02]: And if you can't stack up monetarily, you might as well stack up development-wise, and the Mariners have an opportunity to do so with George Kirby.
26:58 --> 27:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Next question comes from Zander, and Zander's question is, who are we most excited to see represent the Mariners in the WBC?
27:06 --> 27:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we kind of answered this at the top of the episode, but now we can answer again.
27:11 --> 27:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Kyle Tucker, oh wait, no, the Mariners!
27:14 --> 27:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
27:15 --> 27:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Is he playing?
27:17 --> 27:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait, he's not.
27:18 --> 27:22 [SPEAKER_01]: You see where he's doing my head that I can't even see straight at this point?
27:23 --> 27:24 [SPEAKER_01]: You know how I set.
27:25 --> 27:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Actually on Wednesday remember I was like, oh, I've been pretty good lately.
27:27 --> 27:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't had a meltdown.
27:28 --> 27:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I got broke in today.
27:30 --> 27:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Today would be the day to tweet out that gift from the office where it says days since last nonsense.
27:34 --> 27:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Zero.
27:35 --> 27:36 [SPEAKER_01]: That'd be today.
27:37 --> 27:38 [SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing.
27:38 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_01]: We're honestly sitting here and powering through recording the rest of this podcast as the news broke, even just trying to keep my head on straight and like focus.
27:48 --> 27:54 [SPEAKER_01]: You're you're seeing a person like really struggling real time with their own emotions trying to like
27:54 --> 27:55 [SPEAKER_01]: get something done.
27:55 --> 27:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what I'm bummed a missing out on gate 14 is live right now?
27:59 --> 28:04 [SPEAKER_02]: So, well you can rewind, you know, we can rewind and watch that one later.
28:05 --> 28:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, my answer to this question is seriously like Julio because he's, Julio's obviously electric.
28:13 --> 28:17 [SPEAKER_02]: He was fun in the last WBC and he's playing on the most fun team.
28:17 --> 28:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody in the WBC has more fun than Dominican Republic team and that team is fucking loaded.
28:23 --> 28:33 [SPEAKER_02]: So to see Julio go out there and star with some of the best players in baseball surrounding him, I think it's the most awesome thing and it's a true, a joy to watch.
28:33 --> 28:44 [SPEAKER_02]: The American team stack too, but they show their passion differently than the Dominican team does, and I think the Dominican team makes it way, way, way, way more fun.
28:44 --> 28:46 [SPEAKER_02]: And then Gabe, of course, because we have to.
28:46 --> 28:47 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
28:47 --> 28:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm really excited to see Gabe in the WBC like we talked about, but I'll go with a different answer.
28:52 --> 29:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say cow, because we've seen Julio in the WBC, and it's great, but we haven't gotten to see cow playing the WBC yet, so I'm excited to see him, and you're still laughing it.
29:01 --> 29:05 [SPEAKER_01]: We're getting flooded with text, with apps on Twitter.
29:05 --> 29:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is nuts.
29:07 --> 29:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I just had to, well, we're letting a couple of you will know, hey, we actually got this mid-recordings.
29:15 --> 29:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Ugh.
29:16 --> 29:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Alright, well let's get through this episode so we can get the live reaction out to people that want to see it.
29:21 --> 29:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Nick wants to know, Lyle from Patreon, each of you named one interesting fact about yourself, non-basable, non-sports, non-media world that you think would surprise us listeners.
29:32 --> 29:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm, so go on, you start.
29:36 --> 29:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I have an easy one, but I think most people already know this.
29:38 --> 29:44 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm an identical twin, my twin works in tech sales, like two totally different careers.
29:44 --> 29:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Both love sports, but he lives in, you know, he lives in Manhattan.
29:50 --> 29:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Sell stuff makes a lot of money.
29:52 --> 30:09 [SPEAKER_02]: It does great travels all over the place We've looked very like not I don't think we're very identical anymore, but if you see someone walking around Maybe a mayor in our game once a year or if you live in New York and he looks just like me But you know, it's not me.
30:09 --> 30:11 [SPEAKER_02]: It's probably who it is.
30:12 --> 30:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean I think if people know you guys You can tell the two of you apart like I can tell the two of you apart pretty easily, but
30:18 --> 30:23 [SPEAKER_01]: If you didn't, and you haven't met each of you in person, it's easy to confuse.
30:23 --> 30:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, your brother said it's happened to him at Yankees Games where people thought it was you.
30:28 --> 30:29 [SPEAKER_02]: It happened to him in Cooperstown.
30:31 --> 30:35 [SPEAKER_02]: When each year I was getting inducted, I'm like, oh yeah, that'll probably happen because there were a bunch of mayor and her fans there.
30:36 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, dude, you should honestly just be like, play the part, it's like, yeah, I'll take a picture with you.
30:41 --> 30:42 [SPEAKER_02]: That'd be really funny.
30:43 --> 30:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, people start tagging us and I'm like, oh, I'm so proud of him.
30:49 --> 30:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I feel like my favorite fun fact about myself is I'm really, really good at ping pong and basically don't lose, but that is a sports fact.
30:56 --> 30:58 [SPEAKER_01]: So yes, I think, right?
30:59 --> 31:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we could throw ping-pong into the non, like, maybe non-professional sports world.
31:05 --> 31:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, it's not more of like a niche thing.
31:08 --> 31:09 [SPEAKER_02]: You almost played an tournament yesterday.
31:10 --> 31:22 [SPEAKER_01]: I know our friends over at Queen Ampere Hall were having a tournament and there were some people playing Brian Walters within the tournament who we know and is awesome Terry Holliman who's an old UW football player who still does a bunch of stuff in the area.
31:23 --> 31:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Was there, oh no, what's the deal?
31:24 --> 31:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Four years for two hundred and forty million dollars.
31:27 --> 31:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no wonder!
31:29 --> 31:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's only four years.
31:31 --> 31:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Not my money.
31:32 --> 31:33 [SPEAKER_01]: She's done it.
31:34 --> 31:36 [SPEAKER_02]: What is the AAV on that?
31:36 --> 31:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's got to be 70 million and now I have that wrong.
31:40 --> 31:40 [SPEAKER_01]: 80 million?
31:40 --> 31:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
31:42 --> 31:42 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not 80.
31:43 --> 31:51 [SPEAKER_02]: How how how is that even possible that they have to have deferred that money for like for three decades?
31:51 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no way.
31:52 --> 31:59 [SPEAKER_01]: We are talking about the Kyle Tucker contract for those that didn't pick up on that, but yes He just got 40 years for two 40.
32:00 --> 32:01 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what?
32:01 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_01]: four-year deal.
32:02 --> 32:05 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what the Americans don't want to $60 million a year.
32:05 --> 32:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no wait no wonder he's signed with the Dodgers the BlueJays and the Mets weren't even close Say that again.
32:11 --> 32:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Wait.
32:12 --> 32:13 [SPEAKER_02]: What was the what's the A.V.
32:13 --> 32:15 [SPEAKER_02]: $60 million a year?
32:15 --> 32:19 [SPEAKER_02]: The BlueJays and the Mets are not even close.
32:19 --> 32:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay What are the Americans say they don't want long-term contracts?
32:25 --> 32:28 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a four-year deal, baby, four-year deal.
32:29 --> 32:33 [SPEAKER_01]: They could have easily, well, I shouldn't say easily, because that is not true.
32:33 --> 32:35 [SPEAKER_01]: $60 million a year is a lot.
32:35 --> 32:38 [SPEAKER_01]: But they wanted a short-term deal.
32:40 --> 32:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Right in front of you.
32:41 --> 32:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Four years.
32:42 --> 32:44 [SPEAKER_00]: That's all of K-Tox Prime.
32:44 --> 32:45 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the Prime.
32:45 --> 32:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think that's a good contract?
32:49 --> 32:50 [SPEAKER_00]: It can be a bad contract.
32:50 --> 32:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think that's a good contract?
32:52 --> 32:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean,
32:53 --> 32:56 [SPEAKER_01]: That is a lot of money, but it's only four years.
32:57 --> 33:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if K-Tuck repeats what he did last season in a walkier, it's a bad contract for everyone except the Dodgers, who apparently, no limit to what they can spend.
33:11 --> 33:17 [SPEAKER_02]: That's insane, 240, dude, I remember when Robbie can host 10-year contract for 240 was a lot of money.
33:18 --> 33:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Kyle Tucker's getting that in four years, four years of playing.
33:22 --> 33:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, they have to defer that there has to be at least 10 years where the deferrals in there, if not more.
33:27 --> 33:30 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the last off season that they're going to allow deferrals.
33:30 --> 33:33 [SPEAKER_02]: So they might as well defer as much as money is humanly possible.
33:33 --> 33:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, why not?
33:35 --> 33:40 [SPEAKER_01]: And if K-Talk's fine with it and says, Cher, I'll take money every year for not having to play, why not?
33:41 --> 34:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, the, I think the reporting I was seeing out there on K-Talk is that the Anthony Rendon syndrome was, was right, and that he doesn't want to play forever, and that he can sign this deal for four years, clearly collect 10 years worth of money, or at least get 10 years worth of money, deferred to him at some point, and he can go retire and live in Tampa the whole time.
34:03 --> 34:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or he just...
34:07 --> 34:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he basically works for another four years on a team where it's got to be super motivating to want to work hard for, because the Dodgers are the Dodgers.
34:15 --> 34:19 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, probably when at least three titles in your four years, then you can be done.
34:19 --> 34:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Your legacy will be great.
34:20 --> 34:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, unless he really cares about getting into the Hall of Fame, which I guess will only know with time if he does.
34:26 --> 34:28 [SPEAKER_01]: And then that's the case.
34:28 --> 34:29 [SPEAKER_01]: He'll keep playing, if not.
34:30 --> 34:30 [SPEAKER_01]: He'll retire early.
34:30 --> 34:37 [SPEAKER_01]: But in these four years, I mean, if he wins three world series, he makes a couple more All-Star games.
34:38 --> 34:39 [SPEAKER_01]: So what is that?
34:39 --> 34:41 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'm gonna have a hard time getting over that number.
34:42 --> 34:42 [SPEAKER_01]: So hold up.
34:42 --> 34:44 [SPEAKER_01]: So what is the line up now gonna be?
34:44 --> 34:53 [SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna be Shohei, Mookie, Freddie, K-Toc, Will Smith, Muncie, yeah.
34:53 --> 34:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm forgetting a couple.
34:54 --> 34:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Pahas.
34:55 --> 34:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
34:57 --> 34:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Miguel Rojas, of course.
34:58 --> 34:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Nah, he'll be on the bench.
35:00 --> 35:03 [SPEAKER_02]: But, I don't know, I mean, that's like roughly, right?
35:03 --> 35:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Who's their second basement?
35:05 --> 35:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Tommy Edmund.
35:07 --> 35:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Great, Tommy Edmund and the Avengers.
35:09 --> 35:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Tell me, Edmund's good, though.
35:11 --> 35:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I know, I'm joking.
35:13 --> 35:14 [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know, maybe the positions are easier.
35:14 --> 35:21 [SPEAKER_01]: See, I have Wolf Smith at catcher, Freddie at first, Mookie at short, Edmund at second slash center.
35:21 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_01]: But let's call it second.
35:22 --> 35:23 [SPEAKER_01]: You have Muncie at third.
35:24 --> 35:26 [SPEAKER_01]: You have K-Tuck and Wright.
35:26 --> 35:28 [SPEAKER_01]: You would have Piles.
35:28 --> 35:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey Oscar.
35:29 --> 35:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, tail.
35:30 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_01]: You have tail and right.
35:32 --> 35:33 [SPEAKER_01]: And K-Dog in center.
35:34 --> 35:36 [SPEAKER_01]: K-Dog in left and Pah has in center shoots.
35:36 --> 35:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so Tay Oscar's gonna hit like six on that team.
35:40 --> 35:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Good Lord.
35:41 --> 35:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think did some Dodgers fans want him hitting lower.
35:45 --> 35:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, now they have K-Dog.
35:48 --> 35:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, I think you can offset it a little bit.
35:51 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God, dude.
35:52 --> 35:56 [SPEAKER_02]: But I do feel like we'll see some complaints about K-Dog sometime this year.
35:57 --> 35:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll make that prediction now.
36:00 --> 36:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Still should have been here.
36:03 --> 36:04 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
36:05 --> 36:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Four years dog, that ain't 10 years.
36:09 --> 36:15 [SPEAKER_02]: You and I both know the Mariners are not gonna pay $240 million dollars so for 40 years.
36:15 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they should have.
36:19 --> 36:21 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's get to another solid.
36:21 --> 36:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I think this is the first time we've been asked this question.
36:23 --> 36:25 [SPEAKER_02]: This is from Luke on YouTube.
36:25 --> 36:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And he mentions- Hang on.
36:27 --> 36:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Do I need to think of another fun fact for people besides being really good at pink to have another one?
36:31 --> 36:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was going to say so I rarely ever lose a ping pong.
36:34 --> 36:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I know I always played in that tournament on Wednesday, but we didn't end up having quite enough time.
36:39 --> 36:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Another fun fact, I mean, I'm trying to think, I mean, I boy caught at Starbucks for 20 years.
36:46 --> 36:49 [SPEAKER_01]: That does have a sports-related tie to it because
36:49 --> 36:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Howard Schultz on the Sonic shipped him out of town, and I said, yeah, at basically eight years old, I'm buying from that place ever again.
36:56 --> 37:00 [SPEAKER_01]: So here we are, 20 years later, I'm not a coffee drinker.
37:01 --> 37:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
37:01 --> 37:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
37:03 --> 37:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Good.
37:04 --> 37:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like solid fun fact.
37:06 --> 37:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
37:06 --> 37:06 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a couple.
37:07 --> 37:13 [SPEAKER_01]: If people want me to elaborate on further ones, or this question wants me to elaborate on further one, you can always send us a DM, and I can take us some others.
37:14 --> 37:18 [SPEAKER_02]: K-Tuck has opt-outs after the second and third seasons of the contract.
37:19 --> 37:20 [SPEAKER_02]: K-Tuck wants to retire early.
37:21 --> 37:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Or if he thinks he's going to leverage this with a 10-year deal in a couple of years, there is no way.
37:28 --> 37:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
37:29 --> 37:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Because he's 29 right now, right?
37:32 --> 37:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think his value is getting higher.
37:33 --> 37:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd probably not.
37:35 --> 37:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Probably not.
37:36 --> 37:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Based off of all the reporting on how invested he is in baseball, I would be shocked.
37:42 --> 38:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that maybe he isn't as invested as he could be you mean it was Joel Sherman said he Joel Sherman said on the record He has Kyle talk he has Anthony Rendon syndrome Red flag red flag red flag guess what four years dog I'd maybe it like nine years that's a problem four years I don't see K-talk for you.
38:04 --> 38:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know if it was a problem with Anthony Rendon with him the first first year well
38:09 --> 38:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't see it happening with K-Tuck.
38:11 --> 38:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Not what the Dodgers, that's for sure.
38:14 --> 38:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
38:15 --> 38:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess we'll see.
38:16 --> 38:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Time will tell.
38:16 --> 38:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Alright, let's get to Luke's question.
38:19 --> 38:23 [SPEAKER_02]: He was listening to our appearance unlocked on Mariners where we appeared on Wednesday.
38:24 --> 38:28 [SPEAKER_02]: And Colby brought up one of his trade targets potentially for the Mariners this off season.
38:28 --> 38:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Being East Sock Parades, we didn't expand it at all.
38:32 --> 38:33 [SPEAKER_02]: And he wants us to expand on it now.
38:33 --> 38:35 [SPEAKER_02]: So while East Sock Parades.
38:37 --> 38:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know how he would fit in Seattle.
38:40 --> 38:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Number one, for anybody that wanted to dunk on us, how fitting for a topic at a time like this.
38:45 --> 38:50 [SPEAKER_01]: For anybody that used to want to dunk on us, for the idea of the Astro's trading Kyle Tucker to the Mariners.
38:51 --> 38:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I also don't know why the Astro's would trade E-Sock Parannays to the Mariners.
38:55 --> 38:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Pared with, I've said this about Parannays in the past, and I will stand by this.
39:00 --> 39:02 [SPEAKER_01]: E-Sock Parannays is a good baseball player.
39:03 --> 39:05 [SPEAKER_01]: In five ball parks, otherwise he's not.
39:06 --> 39:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Isok parade is a good baseball player in Tampa, in Houston, it'd probably be a good player in Boston, and you can throw out a couple others.
39:15 --> 39:22 [SPEAKER_01]: But this guy solely relies on pulling flyballs for home runs that fall over the fence by five feet.
39:23 --> 39:27 [SPEAKER_01]: If Isok parade is where to play in Seattle, I think it'd be an utter disaster.
39:27 --> 39:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Because he's already not a good defender, you'd be banking on his bat and his bat in a pitchers park like that.
39:34 --> 39:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think that'd be a disaster.
39:37 --> 39:38 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't see that one working.
39:39 --> 39:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't blame Colby for throwing it out there.
39:40 --> 39:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I get it because like we talked about with both Ty and Colby on lockdown, they don't have that many options at this point, and Colby's trying to think outside the box.
39:48 --> 39:49 [SPEAKER_01]: So, credit to them.
39:49 --> 39:51 [SPEAKER_01]: But he said basically the same thing I'm saying right now.
39:51 --> 39:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that would present a problem if parade is was going to play in Seattle.
39:55 --> 39:59 [SPEAKER_01]: So yes, I've stamped this about parade for a while and I believe it.
39:59 --> 40:01 [SPEAKER_01]: In five ball parks, he's a good player.
40:01 --> 40:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Seattle is not one of those five ball parks where he'd be a good player.
40:04 --> 40:07 [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, that's probably about first percentile scenario for parade is.
40:08 --> 40:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Look what he didn't Chicago.
40:09 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_01]: He was not good.
40:11 --> 40:13 [SPEAKER_02]: There's some other reasons why he's not a fit to number one.
40:13 --> 40:15 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a Houston astral currently.
40:15 --> 40:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Why would the astros trade him to the Mariners?
40:18 --> 40:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I just said that.
40:19 --> 40:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
40:20 --> 40:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Number two, Mariners have for what they hope established long-term options at third base and first base by the end of next year.
40:28 --> 40:32 [SPEAKER_02]: The pitch on parades is that he's young and that you'd want to control him for a while.
40:33 --> 40:37 [SPEAKER_02]: If the Mariners don't want to control him for a while, why would they go outside the box to get him?
40:38 --> 40:39 [SPEAKER_02]: right?
40:39 --> 40:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
40:40 --> 40:41 [SPEAKER_02]: They wouldn't.
40:41 --> 40:44 [SPEAKER_02]: And the ballpark, the ballpark thing is totally real.
40:44 --> 40:48 [SPEAKER_02]: The Mariners have the sixth worst park I looked us up on baseball so on.
40:48 --> 41:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Six worst or sixth worst park when it comes to how the park affects flyballs and the Mariners is the sixth shortest for expected distance from flyballs in terms of added or subtracted based off of the weather conditions.
41:04 --> 41:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what's ahead of
41:06 --> 41:10 [SPEAKER_02]: The one ballpark that Esauk Parades is played in that he really struggled.
41:11 --> 41:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Chicago.
41:13 --> 41:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
41:13 --> 41:15 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I'm good.
41:15 --> 41:16 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm good.
41:16 --> 41:20 [SPEAKER_02]: And he would be expensive probably for what you'd need to acquire and doesn't really fit.
41:21 --> 41:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Especially if you tried to trade him a trade forum from a team that you're in division rival.
41:25 --> 41:26 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
41:28 --> 41:31 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, we keep going as I try to power through.
41:31 --> 41:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait for this clip.
41:33 --> 41:34 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be amazing.
41:34 --> 41:35 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be great.
41:36 --> 41:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Moose knuckles on Twitter asks, why isn't there a larger conversation about contract years for Randy Rosarana and JP Crawford?
41:45 --> 41:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Wanting big contracts can mean having career years for a lot of players, maybe huge if it happens.
41:52 --> 41:58 [SPEAKER_01]: JP, I just don't see where the fit's going to be, because I think after this year, Colt Emerson's going to be the shortstop.
41:58 --> 41:59 [SPEAKER_02]: No, it's not signing.
41:59 --> 42:07 [SPEAKER_02]: It's banking this year of them having a contract, like a great contract year, and not factoring that in enough.
42:08 --> 42:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, could that add to the Mariners win total, you mean?
42:11 --> 42:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
42:11 --> 42:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, absolutely.
42:13 --> 42:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And we saw with JP Crawford didn't 2023.
42:16 --> 42:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he'll be really motivated here in 26 to play like that, to earn a big contract when he hits free agency.
42:21 --> 42:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's possible.
42:22 --> 42:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Randy Arozerand is a Scott Boris guy.
42:24 --> 42:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to talk about somebody that could get a lot of money with a big walkier, sure he's going to be motivated too.
42:30 --> 42:37 [SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to know how much you can factor that in because obviously you can't get inside the head of a player and you can't predict the future.
42:37 --> 42:46 [SPEAKER_01]: But what I say those guys are motivated of course, I think any player is motivated in a contract here to have a big year because you know what it can do for your free agency and how much money you can earn yourself.
42:46 --> 42:48 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's something you can rely on, though.
42:49 --> 42:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, you can't just sit here and be like, it's okay we're not trading for Brennan Donovan because JP and Randy are gonna have career contract years.
42:57 --> 43:02 [SPEAKER_02]: That would be great if it happens, and the Mariners might just win a world series if that happens.
43:03 --> 43:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, or lose to the Dodgers, but make the world series if that happens.
43:08 --> 43:10 [SPEAKER_02]: but it's not something you can bank on.
43:10 --> 43:18 [SPEAKER_02]: It also could happen where you acquire Taosker Hernandez in a contract here, like, oh, contract your Taosker.
43:18 --> 43:19 [SPEAKER_02]: He's gonna crush it.
43:20 --> 43:21 [SPEAKER_02]: The Taosker crush it.
43:22 --> 43:47 [SPEAKER_02]: not really no and no one wanted him back either so it's a it can be a little bit of a risk to rely upon that just don't relying on outliers within your own roster is not a sustainable strategy it doesn't it doesn't lead you to win more games necessary like hoping that'd be like hoping Cal hit 60 home runs again and and crafting your entire offseason around that they're not doing that no.
43:48 --> 44:01 [SPEAKER_01]: No, they won't, but I hope they do come out and play like that because it would give the Mariners a real edge and could really up their window to like you said in twenty six until they face Kyle Tucker and the Dodgers in the world series and they'll get swept but let's keep moving on.
44:02 --> 44:12 [SPEAKER_02]: The final question of this male bad comes from Dylan on Instagram, non-M's question because there's zero movement, respect, creativity, love it.
44:13 --> 44:17 [SPEAKER_02]: How much time is spent on each show prepping and recording?
44:18 --> 44:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good question.
44:19 --> 44:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I will say, for as much as we love answering all the baseball questions, if you guys have questions like this, or like the one we got about a random fact about yourself that's non-sports related, yes, sense stuff like that, because like I said on Wednesday's episode, I think both of us want to try and be as personal as we possibly can, and I think we do a lot of it and have done a lot of it over the first three years, but we want to try to do even more of it because we want everybody to feel like
44:46 --> 44:53 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a good question because it takes people behind the curtains, prepping for the podcast itself.
44:53 --> 44:59 [SPEAKER_01]: So we learn this in broadcast school in journalism school because we did a lot of play by play broadcasting.
44:59 --> 45:07 [SPEAKER_01]: The rule of thumb they used to say is, however long you're going to be on the air, you should double that in terms of your prep time.
45:07 --> 45:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So if we were going to broadcast the football game, and you're on the air for three hours,
45:11 --> 45:14 [SPEAKER_01]: you'll usually spend at least six hours prepping for it.
45:14 --> 45:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that's not all in one sitting, you'll break it up throughout the week or throughout a couple weeks when you know you're going to broadcast the game.
45:21 --> 45:33 [SPEAKER_01]: But for these podcasts, yeah, I would say anywhere from an hour to two hours that will sit down and prep for this stuff and find notes and bring nuggets to the show that we think are going to provide some good context.
45:33 --> 45:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, we try not to go too crazy with it because we are numbers people, but I think both of us really pride ourselves on being, again, personalities, relatable, wanting to connect with everybody listening, and if you're just throwing number after number after number, you're going to sound a little robotic.
45:48 --> 45:51 [SPEAKER_01]: So we do do a lot of prep.
45:51 --> 45:55 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't use all of it, but we try to balance it in a way that makes it relatable.
45:56 --> 45:58 [SPEAKER_01]: That being said, we don't want to run out of things to say either.
45:58 --> 46:00 [SPEAKER_01]: So we try to find a lot of things to talk about.
46:01 --> 46:06 [SPEAKER_02]: The preview episodes are definitely the longest preview and review episodes.
46:06 --> 46:24 [SPEAKER_02]: So the ones we do essentially in March and the ones we do after the season ends, either in October or November, take the most prep time, because we're going through like every single player and breaking down like what we saw, what we're expecting, like all these things, storylines, questions, all that.
46:24 --> 46:29 [SPEAKER_02]: When there's games being played, it's easier to be a little bit more efficient during the off season.
46:29 --> 46:32 [SPEAKER_02]: we're just reacting to things for the most part.
46:32 --> 46:36 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see some stuff, we'll take some notes, be free agent profiles, take a little bit of time too.
46:36 --> 46:49 [SPEAKER_02]: So the more I'd say the more like, I don't know, pre-prepared we have something, the more time we'll spend on it, but there are times where we can be a little bit more efficient with our prep time.
46:49 --> 46:56 [SPEAKER_02]: So to answer your question, at this time of year, it's usually about an hour for the episode, roughly.
46:56 --> 47:05 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fair, any and like you said during the season, it's a little easier because things are easier to react to.
47:05 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not quite like the off season, but you can react to things and there are things that are very.
47:12 --> 47:15 [SPEAKER_01]: relevant at that point in time that you dive in on for a little bit.
47:15 --> 47:25 [SPEAKER_01]: For example, during the regular season, when we'll do our three mariners storylines throughout an episode, and we'll try to highlight some things that were important over the course of the few days that we haven't recorded.
47:25 --> 47:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll pick out a couple of storylines and we'll dive in on it if we're going to talk about Logan Gilbert's fastballs played up in the last few starts.
47:33 --> 47:34 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll do some stuff on that.
47:34 --> 47:37 [SPEAKER_01]: And then if we talk about Julio's
47:37 --> 47:40 [SPEAKER_01]: hit in lefties or hit in righties better than it usually does.
47:41 --> 47:50 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll dive into that a little bit and we'll stretch out some time spans on fan graphs where, oh, in the last two weeks he's done this before that he did this and you can see the difference here.
47:50 --> 47:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Why could that be?
47:51 --> 47:52 [SPEAKER_01]: So,
47:53 --> 48:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Usually when stuff gets specific like that, I mean that helps too because you know exactly what you want to dive in on, but that doesn't take quite as much time as like you said.
48:02 --> 48:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Previews, reviews, when there's a lot of notes to do.
48:06 --> 48:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
48:06 --> 48:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Good question notes.
48:07 --> 48:08 [SPEAKER_02]: It's some people.
48:09 --> 48:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll give them credit for their podcast.
48:11 --> 48:14 [SPEAKER_02]: They can just sit down, turn the mic on, start talking.
48:14 --> 48:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Our friend Adam Ray, he probably does some prep when he has guests on.
48:22 --> 48:23 [SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing in front of him.
48:24 --> 48:25 [SPEAKER_02]: He's got a bottle of water usually.
48:26 --> 48:27 [SPEAKER_02]: His phone is face down.
48:28 --> 48:30 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's just talking.
48:30 --> 48:34 [SPEAKER_02]: He just starts talking and it goes goes off like whatever way his mind takes him.
48:34 --> 48:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Some people are really good at just doing that.
48:37 --> 48:38 [SPEAKER_01]: And they don't need that.
48:38 --> 48:39 [SPEAKER_02]: They don't need prep time.
48:39 --> 48:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how Adam does it either.
48:41 --> 48:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Which is why he is as wildly successful as he is, because he can just monologue and monologue and he turns everything into a funny joke and he spins that off of pop culture reference or a sports reference or a historical reference.
48:56 --> 48:57 [SPEAKER_01]: It can be anything.
48:57 --> 48:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Adam's ability to not just
48:59 --> 49:16 [SPEAKER_01]: light up a room, but also be a personality and monologue in an interesting way for as long as he does and spin off all these unique and hilarious aspects of things into his show or into a live event that he's doing, it's amazing.
49:17 --> 49:22 [SPEAKER_01]: We are unfortunately not at him right, so we can't quite do that, but yes, there are people out there like that.
49:23 --> 49:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Good batch of mailbag questions.
49:24 --> 49:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you guys for hanging with us through this episode.
49:27 --> 49:31 [SPEAKER_02]: It must have been so much more entertaining than some of our other mailbag episodes.
49:32 --> 49:36 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like people might have tuned into this episode not even here to hear the mailbag questions.
49:36 --> 49:43 [SPEAKER_02]: They just wanted to hear your crash out over the remaining 30 minutes of the episode we had to do after Kyle Tucker's lines.
49:43 --> 49:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I think this is going to have to be the thumbnail.
49:46 --> 49:49 [SPEAKER_01]: It's Mariners miss out on Kyle Tucker and like lil loses it.
49:51 --> 50:00 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what, that's what the, that's what the audio version is going to be labeled while crashes out over Kyle Tucker signing mid mid recording mid mid episode.
50:03 --> 50:08 [SPEAKER_01]: If you guys want to help cheer me up and take me out of my pain, misery, and suffering, go subscribe on YouTube.
50:08 --> 50:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, I might just drown myself and sorrows for the rest of the off-season.
50:11 --> 50:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So hey, why don't you go subscribe on YouTube to Elvis out?
50:15 --> 50:21 [SPEAKER_01]: It would, if you like, every YouTube subscription sheds away one last year.
50:21 --> 50:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So please go subscribe.
50:24 --> 50:27 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, that just about does it for this edition of the Marine Lair podcast.
50:27 --> 50:28 [SPEAKER_01]: You guys know the drill.
50:28 --> 50:30 [SPEAKER_01]: You want to listen to the full form podcast.
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50:33 --> 50:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Go download if you're listening, rate and review, five stars.
50:37 --> 50:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Tell me why the Mariners are still somehow going to have a chance this year despite Kyle Tucker not being on the team.
50:41 --> 50:44 [SPEAKER_01]: You can let us know in the Apple reviews if you want to write a written review that'd be awesome.
50:45 --> 50:48 [SPEAKER_01]: On YouTube, please like, go subscribe, drop a comment.
50:48 --> 50:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Tell us why the Mariners didn't get Kyle Tucker, why they absolutely should have.
50:52 --> 50:54 [SPEAKER_01]: And let them go to the Dodgers, I don't know.
50:54 --> 50:57 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, again, comments.
50:57 --> 51:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Let us know, maybe you a better reasoning than us, but we won't know unless you tell us so comments, Kyle Tucker, we need them.
51:04 --> 51:09 [SPEAKER_01]: You can check us out on our website, marinelayerpod.com, all our merch is there, page reons there.
51:09 --> 51:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we'll make some merch with a crying lile with no Kyle Tucker to the Mariners.
51:12 --> 51:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we'll drop that on the website too.
51:14 --> 51:16 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, if you guys want to do that, you can go check that out.
51:17 --> 51:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully we'll have a new merch drop with new Kyle Tucker's merch in the next couple weeks.
51:21 --> 51:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, go check it out and then you can follow us across social media at marinelayerpod.
51:25 --> 51:27 [SPEAKER_01]: You're probably going to want to see this clip get tweeted out.
51:27 --> 51:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, why not go follow us?
51:29 --> 51:30 [SPEAKER_01]: That's CJ.
51:30 --> 51:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm lile.
51:31 --> 51:31 [SPEAKER_01]: It's always weird.
51:31 --> 51:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you guys for tuning in.
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