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00:00 --> 00:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to episode number 354 of the Marine Lair podcast.
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00:58 --> 01:23 [SPEAKER_02]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just baseball podcast network recording here on Wednesday evening January 21st We're going to get right into the mailbag and a reminder to you guys the best place to go if you want your patreon if you want your questions answered for these mailbags Is go to our patreon that's patreon dot com slash marine layer pod if you sign up for our patreon You get priority for these mailbags.
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01:42 --> 01:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Why are we jumping?
01:43 --> 01:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Why are we jumping right into the mailbag?
01:45 --> 01:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Because they're ain't crap going on nothing.
01:48 --> 01:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing.
01:52 --> 01:52 [SPEAKER_00]: That's where we're at people.
01:53 --> 01:54 [SPEAKER_00]: There's no news.
01:54 --> 01:56 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're taking all your questions.
01:56 --> 01:57 [SPEAKER_00]: This is what these mailbags are for.
01:57 --> 01:58 [SPEAKER_00]: We want your questions.
01:58 --> 01:59 [SPEAKER_00]: We want to answer them.
01:59 --> 02:07 [SPEAKER_02]: And we're also recording a full date early, very worried that if we were to react to something on Wednesday as we're recording by Friday morning, it's not really as relevant.
02:07 --> 02:10 [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, apologies.
02:10 --> 02:13 [SPEAKER_02]: We wish we had more news to talk about, but there really is nothing, so.
02:14 --> 02:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Now we're just going to live in hypothetical land and answer some questions.
02:19 --> 02:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say last week we got asked to each name a fun fact about ourselves that isn't sports related or that we haven't told on the podcast before and we've talked about we're going to try to talk more about us to just let people get to know us even better than we've already tried to do in the first couple years.
02:35 --> 02:36 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to try to do more of that this year.
02:36 --> 02:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say I thought a one more fun fact that I definitely haven't talked about on here if people want it and if you want questions like this and want to submit the male bad questions to have us talk more about our lives or our personal matters but just like you know our outside of podcast lives.
02:53 --> 02:55 [SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to think about what else I could add.
02:55 --> 03:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know people know this is a thing or not, but when I was a kid, I used to go to sleep way camp on the East Coast all summer.
03:01 --> 03:11 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a thing on the West Coast, but if you're from the East Coast, you know that kids go away for seven, eight weeks at a time all summer, and it was an all sports camp that I went away to.
03:11 --> 03:17 [SPEAKER_00]: So, right after we ended that episode last week about the fun fact that I only came up with ping pong, I was like, what else can I have told people?
03:17 --> 03:23 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, growing up, I used to go to a seven week all sports sleep way camp all summer.
03:23 --> 03:26 [SPEAKER_00]: from ages about 13 through 16.
03:26 --> 03:27 [SPEAKER_00]: It was great.
03:27 --> 03:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I loved it.
03:28 --> 03:30 [SPEAKER_02]: I would do camp, but I wouldn't sleep there.
03:31 --> 03:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Like I would always go to, we'd add a couple different boys and girls club.
03:35 --> 03:36 [SPEAKER_02]: There was the one at Magnuson.
03:36 --> 03:41 [SPEAKER_02]: We would always go to, and then I'd want to, I mean, I'd want to my K-3.
03:41 --> 04:02 [SPEAKER_00]: it's same bay so so what you're talking about is way different again these type of sleepway cams don't exist on the west coast if you talk to kids a group on the east coast it's it's totally a thing to go away all summer this camp i went to is a Massachusetts sure but i was gonna say but i still want to camp i just didn't sleep there like we still did activities and field trips and
04:02 --> 04:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Five days a week during during the summer just I didn't sleep there.
04:07 --> 04:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Got it.
04:08 --> 04:09 [SPEAKER_02]: That was a good fun fact.
04:09 --> 04:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Thanks always.
04:10 --> 04:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah I don't have any fun facts.
04:12 --> 04:28 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't I don't think so But we'll try to think of more as time goes on and maybe I'll be more interesting once the season starts because my if you people want an insight to TJ's day My entire day spent sitting in this seat doing stuff There's not much interesting happening these days.
04:28 --> 04:31 [SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna say if people want
04:31 --> 04:35 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, people want to hear about us and like I said, we're going to try as best as we can.
04:35 --> 04:38 [SPEAKER_00]: But during the week, I mean, what is my schedule look like?
04:38 --> 04:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I get up before 5 a.m. to get on Brock and Salk.
04:40 --> 04:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I come home.
04:41 --> 04:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I nap for a couple hours.
04:43 --> 04:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I do another probably 8 to 10 hours of work sitting at this desk right here.
04:47 --> 04:53 [SPEAKER_00]: and then somehow within that time, try to work in an hour at the gym and work in eating meals.
04:53 --> 04:55 [SPEAKER_00]: But those are our days.
04:56 --> 04:59 [SPEAKER_00]: We love every bit of it, but it does take up time.
04:59 --> 05:03 [SPEAKER_00]: So unfortunately, we don't always have that much to update during the week.
05:04 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Now be more soon when when the sun comes out and spring comes, go to spring training, love some stories from there.
05:10 --> 05:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I think we'll have some some more.
05:12 --> 05:14 [SPEAKER_00]: It is winter hibernation season.
05:14 --> 05:14 [SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
05:15 --> 05:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Now some people see us on the weekend, sometimes out in ballad or other places we might go.
05:20 --> 05:20 [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll run.
05:20 --> 05:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you just do access?
05:22 --> 05:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.
05:23 --> 05:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't enough people see us.
05:24 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't have people see us.
05:26 --> 05:27 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm winning.
05:27 --> 05:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm kidding.
05:28 --> 05:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you want me to write down your home address, I can and just put it up to the screen for people.
05:34 --> 05:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, unfortunately, it is out there legally, so I'm not saying people go find it, but I wouldn't technically be doxing it is somewhere in a public file, unfortunately.
05:49 --> 05:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I doxed us on the weekends, we'll go out with our friends and sometimes run into people that listen to the pot or watch on social media out in a massive neighborhood in the Seattle area.
05:58 --> 06:00 [SPEAKER_00]: So yes, I doxed us.
06:00 --> 06:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, thanks.
06:01 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_02]: So you really you really shrunk you you shrunk it down for people.
06:05 --> 06:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I did hope yes, more fun facts this year Hopefully more interesting.
06:09 --> 06:14 [SPEAKER_02]: How interesting things happened to us over these next few weeks Let's get into this mail bag.
06:14 --> 06:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's start off with zanders and there always has good questions for us and he wants to play preseason award predictions
06:22 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_02]: His preseason mariners sionne is brine woe is preseason mariners come back player of the year as Bryce Miller is preseason mariners MVP is Julio and his preseason rookie of the year is Cole Young.
06:36 --> 06:39 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you think?
06:39 --> 06:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I love brine woe
06:41 --> 06:41 [SPEAKER_00]: as we know.
06:42 --> 06:44 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm going to pick Logan Gilbert for the team psi on this here.
06:45 --> 06:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I just think Logan's going to get back to what he was in 24 this year.
06:49 --> 06:50 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be healthy.
06:51 --> 06:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And when he's that and he's striking banners out the way he does, you know, this is one of the 10 to 12 best starters in all of baseball.
06:59 --> 07:00 [SPEAKER_00]: For his greatest Brian, we is.
07:00 --> 07:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully, they're battling it out back and forth all year for this thing.
07:03 --> 07:06 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm going to say, Logan wins a psi on.
07:06 --> 07:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to stick with Zander here and say Julio wins a team MVP as we've talked about age 25 feels like a year.
07:12 --> 07:15 [SPEAKER_00]: He should really be able to just explode even more than he already has.
07:17 --> 07:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Rookie of the year, chalk, but I'm going to go cold Emerson.
07:21 --> 07:29 [SPEAKER_00]: The comeback player of the year one is tough because I was trying to think about who really struggled last year besides Bryce.
07:29 --> 07:30 [SPEAKER_00]: that would bounce back.
07:30 --> 07:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't want to go as up and down with Zander's picks as he did.
07:34 --> 07:36 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was trying to think about somebody different.
07:36 --> 07:47 [SPEAKER_00]: The only true comeback player I feel like you could have though is someone like Luke Rayleigh, but I don't know if I fully buy that he's going to explode or have some miraculous year in 2026.
07:47 --> 07:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you have a different answer for somebody other than Bryce for come back?
07:51 --> 07:51 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I didn't.
07:53 --> 07:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Even it was even if it was Luke Rayleigh.
07:55 --> 07:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think he could be good enough to win that?
07:57 --> 07:58 [SPEAKER_02]: not really.
07:58 --> 08:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't think so either.
08:00 --> 08:03 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to think who could post Victor Robless maybe.
08:03 --> 08:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I think Robless is a better chance than Rayleigh.
08:06 --> 08:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd buy that.
08:07 --> 08:13 [SPEAKER_02]: If you were going to pick a number two, Vic would be right.
08:13 --> 08:15 [SPEAKER_02]: I think Vic would be prime for that after Bryce.
08:15 --> 08:18 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think Bryce is better baseball player than Victor Robless's.
08:19 --> 08:25 [SPEAKER_02]: And I feel more confident in Bryce bouncing back than Victor Robless bouncing back enough to win this award.
08:25 --> 08:29 [SPEAKER_02]: If Robless comes out and is like a league average hitter, can we seriously give him the award?
08:31 --> 08:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Only if there's no no more options.
08:33 --> 08:34 [SPEAKER_02]: I would think.
08:34 --> 08:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, otherwise I was same as you.
08:36 --> 08:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I've Logan as my Saigon.
08:38 --> 08:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the upside of Logan Gilbert is still higher than anyone in this rotation.
08:42 --> 08:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Especially since he has shown the ability to go out and throw as many endings as he has, Brian Wood could, like he definitely could, but Logan Gilbert having that swath of stuffy has in the amount of swing and messy generates.
08:56 --> 09:00 [SPEAKER_02]: And the fact he's like six, six, and there's just giant
09:00 --> 09:02 [SPEAKER_02]: everything a pitcher dreams of.
09:02 --> 09:16 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it just gives him the ability to go out there and when when when the team's so young and an MVP Julio calls probably going to regress a little bit and that's going to be enough for Julio to come take that.
09:17 --> 09:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And then Colt Emerson's going to play every day and Coli Young's not.
09:19 --> 09:21 [SPEAKER_02]: I truly think that.
09:21 --> 09:26 [SPEAKER_02]: As high as the Mariners are on Coli Young, if the Mariners have a string of lefties, if they leave in Coli Young and
09:27 --> 09:30 [SPEAKER_02]: No, that's probably where you'd see Leo Reva's get some days, right?
09:31 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
09:31 --> 09:33 [SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think once Colt's out, they would take him out of line up.
09:34 --> 09:37 [SPEAKER_02]: You're not putting Ben Williamson in for lefties, right?
09:37 --> 09:37 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
09:38 --> 09:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Not in less Colt Emerson really struggles against left-handed pitching, which last year he did not.
09:43 --> 09:48 [SPEAKER_00]: His splits were pretty even from both sides, where he really crushed it from lefties and righties.
09:48 --> 09:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And if they need to platoon him, he's probably not winning.
09:50 --> 09:51 [SPEAKER_02]: The Mariners were good to hear anyways.
09:52 --> 09:53 [SPEAKER_02]: So.
09:54 --> 09:54 [SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
09:54 --> 09:56 [SPEAKER_00]: But who is there's not that many rookies?
09:56 --> 09:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Then it might be cool young.
09:58 --> 10:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Or would Ben, no Ben, one count would Ben count?
10:02 --> 10:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Does Cole even count is a rookies, though?
10:06 --> 10:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Actually, that's a great question.
10:08 --> 10:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Did he play, oh, I feel like he did play enough.
10:11 --> 10:12 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I feel like.
10:12 --> 10:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, maybe Sanders making an exception here, which is fine.
10:16 --> 10:19 [SPEAKER_00]: But I feel like there's not going to be that many rookies.
10:19 --> 10:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe there's a reliever that comes up that's unexpected.
10:21 --> 10:27 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Michael O'Royal will get up at some point this year, but again, I don't know if he's going to have the at bats for it.
10:30 --> 10:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Can't think of anyone else.
10:33 --> 10:33 [SPEAKER_02]: You might know.
10:34 --> 10:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Drangelo would get maybe a couple of starts if they don't trade him right, but where's he going to slot into that rotation for enough outings?
10:43 --> 10:44 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a great question.
10:45 --> 10:46 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be hard to pick anyone besides Cole.
10:47 --> 10:52 [SPEAKER_02]: If we're going off of true rookies, haven't exceeded your rookie status yet.
10:53 --> 10:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a great.
10:54 --> 10:56 [SPEAKER_02]: I think chalk is our only answer, Zander.
10:57 --> 10:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's all we got.
10:58 --> 11:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, before you read the next question.
11:01 --> 11:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, can I chime in here?
11:03 --> 11:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and give people a reminder to mark down on their calendars for February 11 at Queen Ambeir Hall, trivia night.
11:10 --> 11:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, okay.
11:10 --> 11:12 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to pause so people can do it.
11:12 --> 11:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Ready and go.
11:15 --> 11:20 [SPEAKER_00]: One, two, three, four.
11:21 --> 11:21 [SPEAKER_00]: five.
11:22 --> 11:22 [SPEAKER_00]: There we go.
11:22 --> 11:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Marine Lair pod, Mariners Trivianite, Queen Ambeirhal, Wednesday, February 11th, it'll be in the evening.
11:28 --> 11:29 [SPEAKER_00]: By next week we should have a time for you guys.
11:31 --> 11:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Next question of the male bag comes from Pucci Delgado on Patreon and the question is, how does media credentialing actually work for Mariners podcasters and bloggers and how it is it evolved over time?
11:45 --> 11:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is an interesting question.
11:46 --> 11:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess this is a little different than your typical Mariners nuts and bolts baseball question, because this does dive into our world.
11:55 --> 11:57 [SPEAKER_00]: You can chime in here too, obviously.
11:58 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_00]: But we are on a little bit of an island in terms of the people that are out at the Mariners games through media.
12:06 --> 12:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say we're very different than the rest of the group of people that are there.
12:12 --> 12:12 [SPEAKER_02]: We are.
12:13 --> 12:32 [SPEAKER_02]: We I think have been incredibly lucky with our timing on the ability for us to get on the field because the Mariners don't credential anybody who has a podcast and who does short form social media content that I do feel like we the timing of that.
12:32 --> 12:41 [SPEAKER_02]: allowed us to have our opportunity and I think we've done a great job with it, which is why we have the staying power to stay and continue to do it and show up at the park as much as we do.
12:42 --> 12:44 [SPEAKER_02]: But in terms of how does the credentialing go?
12:44 --> 12:58 [SPEAKER_02]: What essentially the team first the Mariners and there's the second part of this question that we'll get to here in a little bit, the Mariners said to get over was
12:59 --> 13:06 [SPEAKER_02]: bloggers and podcasters and content creators the same we treat the normal media which they all have different jobs.
13:07 --> 13:24 [SPEAKER_02]: But I feel like for how we're treated personally we essentially have the old media label on us in terms of how we're treated, how we're credentialed, what we get access to what what we do at the ballpark when we show up.
13:25 --> 13:25 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like
13:28 --> 13:35 [SPEAKER_02]: What they had to do is they had to get over the, this is so different that they don't deserve to get credentialed.
13:37 --> 13:43 [SPEAKER_02]: We got an opportunity and now we are essentially there covering the team in our own way, just like everyone else is.
13:43 --> 13:44 [SPEAKER_02]: That was a lot of words.
13:44 --> 13:45 [SPEAKER_02]: What else would you add to that?
13:46 --> 13:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it was just as simple as a few years ago.
13:48 --> 13:52 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners decide and every team in Major League Baseball is different.
13:52 --> 13:58 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think the Mariners decided a few years ago to start giving more access to non-traditional media.
13:59 --> 14:02 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think they started that a little bit before we even started.
14:02 --> 14:03 [SPEAKER_00]: go into the games and do a media stuff.
14:04 --> 14:09 [SPEAKER_00]: But as media has changed, I think some teams have chosen to adapt with the times and change with it.
14:10 --> 14:14 [SPEAKER_00]: And the Mariners did that a few years ago, because there's people like look out landing that'll be out at the games, right?
14:15 --> 14:20 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's an example of people who have been there over a few years, over the span of a few years.
14:20 --> 14:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
14:20 --> 14:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Except look out landings not been credentialed.
14:23 --> 14:42 [SPEAKER_02]: much longer than we have like that is part of the the evolution of this and look all ending is one of the biggest one of the highest volume mariner's written sources out there right and for the longest time you know it was the Seattle Times who gets in but not the blogs.
14:42 --> 14:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
14:43 --> 14:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so look out landings just been around longer than we have.
14:47 --> 14:48 [SPEAKER_00]: So that is part of it.
14:48 --> 14:54 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, as the mariners started to adapt some of their philosophies, they did give a little more access to some of the new age media people.
14:55 --> 14:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, we've been fortunate enough to get to be out there and do it.
14:59 --> 15:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And we've tried to, again, since we're so different than most of the group of people that are out there, do it in our own way and bring people content that
15:08 --> 15:11 [SPEAKER_00]: isn't what everybody else is doing, because that's how we wanted to do.
15:11 --> 15:13 [SPEAKER_00]: We always wanted to be different.
15:13 --> 15:15 [SPEAKER_00]: We wanted to do something unique.
15:15 --> 15:19 [SPEAKER_00]: So when we eventually started going out there, we're like, how are we going to best utilize our time?
15:20 --> 15:30 [SPEAKER_00]: And things like interviewing the players and trying to do fun questions with them and humanize them and bring that to people to get to see stuff that they might not always get to see is part of what
15:31 --> 15:33 [SPEAKER_00]: we really wanted to lean into, and I'm glad we have.
15:34 --> 15:36 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's great for relationship building too.
15:36 --> 15:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Just getting to talk to all the media members, you learn a lot, and getting to talk to the players you learn a lot, which for most podcasters who don't get access to the field, they just have to guess.
15:47 --> 15:52 [SPEAKER_02]: They assume what happens, but thankfully, we get to have a little bit more insight because we're there.
15:52 --> 15:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
15:53 --> 16:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And bring more information on to this podcast to bring to you guys to give you guys more context the things that are going on.
16:00 --> 16:01 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's been great.
16:01 --> 16:02 [SPEAKER_00]: It's been a blast.
16:02 --> 16:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Now I will say not every team is like this.
16:05 --> 16:12 [SPEAKER_00]: As you can imagine, there's teams across the league that would not even consider letting new age media out onto the field.
16:12 --> 16:15 [SPEAKER_00]: The Yankees, no shot, Red Sox, probably no shot.
16:15 --> 16:20 [SPEAKER_00]: There's teams like that out there that just aren't going to do it.
16:20 --> 16:25 [SPEAKER_00]: there are teams out there that have adapted, Mariners are one, and in that way we've been very fortunate.
16:26 --> 16:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
16:26 --> 16:37 [SPEAKER_02]: So the end of this question before we move on is do we think the Mariners are ahead behind a roughly in line with other pro teams and it comes to credentialing and engaging new age media?
16:37 --> 16:39 [SPEAKER_02]: I would say they're ahead of the times.
16:39 --> 16:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so I jumped the gun a little bit on that answer, but yes, I would say they're a little ahead because it's not everybody, it's not nobody, but
16:49 --> 16:56 [SPEAKER_00]: It's, they are definitely forward thinking in that regard, which is, which is cool, and for us, very fortunate.
16:57 --> 17:02 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, the Yankees, I don't think they, they love people like that out there much.
17:03 --> 17:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Some teams don't need to, if you want to think about this from their perspective, they know the content is going to be out there no matter what.
17:09 --> 17:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Therefore, they have, they don't need to do anything.
17:15 --> 17:16 [SPEAKER_02]: They feel like they don't need to do anything.
17:16 --> 17:25 [SPEAKER_02]: But what the mariners might see different, and this is me not speaking from someone saying, this to us, this is me just speaking for myself.
17:26 --> 17:28 [SPEAKER_02]: The mariners see the benefit of,
17:29 --> 17:41 [SPEAKER_02]: having of the content in the the information that can be had by allowing some of us out there to the field to cover games and talk to fans and talk to players and do content and stuff like that.
17:42 --> 18:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I think Major League Baseball is totally wrong with how they approach that and a lot of these teams that are very old-school thinking because this is a big reason why when you're targeting a younger audience and trying to reach that demographic, it is harder at times for Major League Baseball and that's something that other sports like the NFL and the NBA do a lot better than them.
18:01 --> 18:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Some of you guys listening may not pay as close attention to this stuff as we do, but since this is our world,
18:06 --> 18:30 [SPEAKER_00]: were always very much in it and very much see all this stuff, but the NFL during Super Bowl week, they invite all these content creators, all these social media people, influencers out to Super Bowl week to do content because they know that is an area that when targeted right can continue to grow a fan base of an audience that spends a lot of their time online.
18:30 --> 18:32 [SPEAKER_00]: The NFL and the NBA do a lot of that.
18:32 --> 18:39 [SPEAKER_00]: There is a lot of content creators and a lot of YouTubers and a lot of new age media that's out there.
18:39 --> 18:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Major League Baseball.
18:42 --> 18:43 [SPEAKER_00]: good luck.
18:43 --> 18:45 [SPEAKER_00]: It is very few and far between.
18:45 --> 18:50 [SPEAKER_00]: There's there's some people who we know a little bit who do get to do more of it, which is awesome.
18:51 --> 18:55 [SPEAKER_00]: And the people that get to do it are great at what they do between the back boys.
18:55 --> 19:03 [SPEAKER_00]: If you guys know them on social media, they do a bunch of player interviews desarme, who's a huge baseball youtuber, Kate, who does baseball for baddies, who's awesome.
19:04 --> 19:07 [SPEAKER_00]: They get to do a little bit more of this stuff.
19:07 --> 19:12 [SPEAKER_00]: But if I have this right, they all work in some way or another directly with the league.
19:13 --> 19:17 [SPEAKER_02]: So it gives them the access and if you don't work for the league, then you don't get the access.
19:18 --> 19:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
19:19 --> 19:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, maybe you guys saw the story that Jericho Robas didn't get a credential for the winter meetings, which is ridiculous.
19:25 --> 19:26 [SPEAKER_00]: But...
19:27 --> 19:40 [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't, I mean, we should wear it because he does stuff for MLB network, but his main job credentialed for all star week, right, but his main job is he works at underdog and because that's not in direct relation with the league.
19:41 --> 19:50 [SPEAKER_00]: It's different where because it's not in direct line with MLB, it's not the same as some of those other content people that work right with the league.
19:50 --> 19:58 [SPEAKER_00]: So yes, if immediately baseball on some of these teams really wanted to grow the game as much as possible, they'd be letting a whole lot more content people out to do content.
19:59 --> 20:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, they don't.
20:00 --> 20:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope that changes over time, but that is the fact of the matter right now.
20:04 --> 20:08 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners, however, all the credit in the world to them, they're much more open to it.
20:09 --> 20:12 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think all the, getting all the teams on board would very much help.
20:13 --> 20:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
20:13 --> 20:18 [SPEAKER_02]: So there's more teams doing it than the league would have more incentive to do it.
20:18 --> 20:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, is there anybody where we're missing that's out there besides us and and look outlanding when you think of the new age people, circling Seattle sports, that's a good one.
20:30 --> 20:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
20:30 --> 20:34 [SPEAKER_00]: So, and they're, and they're a newer side over the last few years and they're there.
20:34 --> 20:36 [SPEAKER_00]: They cover all sports throughout Seattle.
20:36 --> 20:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the SI sites, what are you around table now, technically?
20:41 --> 20:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's really new age though.
20:44 --> 20:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Not really, but they wouldn't have been credentialed under old rules.
20:49 --> 21:04 [SPEAKER_00]: that's probably fair because it's but but I mean it's right it's it's they would classify that as a blog okay but sports illustrated in general is usually legacy media yeah or maybe used to be not not as much anymore sure um yeah who else
21:05 --> 21:05 [SPEAKER_00]: It's about it.
21:06 --> 21:08 [SPEAKER_02]: In terms of, like, regularly, yeah, that's about it.
21:09 --> 21:14 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, circling Seattle, look out landing, those are more websites.
21:14 --> 21:19 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot more written content, which is why with TJ and I do is, is yes, very different than the rest of the pack.
21:19 --> 21:25 [SPEAKER_00]: But in a lot of ways, we like that, because we get to do something unique, something that not everybody else is doing.
21:27 --> 21:30 [SPEAKER_02]: Before we get to the next mailback question, I'll do one read now.
21:31 --> 21:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I do.
21:32 --> 21:34 [SPEAKER_00]: And great question, by the way.
21:34 --> 21:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you probably saw that question really got us talking.
21:37 --> 21:42 [SPEAKER_00]: So if people are interested in more of the behind-the-scenes stuff like that, this is what these mailboxes are for, right?
21:42 --> 21:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Ask away if you're interested.
21:43 --> 21:45 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm looking, I'm looking at the clock.
21:45 --> 21:47 [SPEAKER_00]: That really got us talking, which is, which is good.
21:47 --> 21:49 [SPEAKER_00]: We're passionate about this stuff.
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22:00 --> 22:04 [SPEAKER_00]: You can go to things like Play Pool and Darts.
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22:21 --> 22:26 [SPEAKER_00]: They've got happy hours on Monday through Friday again two to six p.m And drinks are three and four dollars.
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22:30 --> 22:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Michael on Patreon notes that he's an Arkansas traveler's season ticket holder and has a question, minus Colt Emerson, Katie Anderson, Darangelow as the biggest names, who in the mayor's monolig organization do you think will make the biggest jump this year development wise or who are you the most excited for?
22:50 --> 22:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, if you're an Arkansas traveler's fan, I got to tell you what, get ready to learn Ryan Sloan buddy.
22:56 --> 22:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Now that'll come later in the year because he's gonna spend some time and ever it.
23:00 --> 23:06 [SPEAKER_00]: But you mentioned Gerangelo, and I'll credit in the world a Gerangelo Sanger who is an exciting prospect in his own right.
23:07 --> 23:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Ryan Sloan's the best pitcher in the system.
23:10 --> 23:15 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got a higher up side than Kate Anderson, he's got a higher up side than St. Joe, he's got a chance to be special.
23:15 --> 23:16 [SPEAKER_00]: And he could move quickly.
23:17 --> 23:20 [SPEAKER_00]: He could be up in the big leagues by early 2027.
23:21 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_00]: It's very possible, depending on how this year goes.
23:23 --> 23:28 [SPEAKER_00]: And for that to happen, that's going to involve a lot of starts made with the travelers this year.
23:29 --> 23:31 [SPEAKER_00]: So Ryan Sloan's going to start and ever it.
23:31 --> 23:45 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you're an Arkansas traveler's fan, I would mark your calendars on days that he is going to be starting games this summer at Dickie Stevens Park and make an appointment viewing to go out and see him because not only is he the most exciting picture in the system.
23:46 --> 23:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I also think that's who's going to take the biggest jump this year, which is crazy to say because he already had an amazing year one.
23:51 --> 23:52 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's how good he can be.
23:54 --> 23:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Take Luke Stevenson might be his battery mate by then.
23:58 --> 23:59 [SPEAKER_00]: would say it's certainly possible.
24:00 --> 24:01 [SPEAKER_02]: That's who I'm circling.
24:01 --> 24:03 [SPEAKER_02]: He had a great pro debut.
24:04 --> 24:12 [SPEAKER_02]: The reason I feel confident he could reach Arkansas this year is he had two years of college ball that some of these high schoolers like Ryan Sloan.
24:13 --> 24:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't get.
24:14 --> 24:20 [SPEAKER_02]: So him jumping to AA in his first year full year on the Mariners minor league system is not impossible.
24:20 --> 24:26 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not crazy for top especially first round college talent that is bound for the major leagues.
24:27 --> 24:36 [SPEAKER_02]: If you're bound for the major leagues, you've got that kind of talent and that kind of talent can bring you where from where he was in Medesto last year all the way up to Arkansas this year.
24:36 --> 24:55 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think Blux even since really exciting option for the Mariners 154 WRC plus in that Modesto Stint Mariners now have a new top catching prospect that that's him now if they don't have Harry Ford in the organization If he it's well Wouldn't be shocked if he moves quickly this year.
24:55 --> 25:03 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got some real real tools And we should probably throw Johnny in there too because of Johnny from Lowe's healthy and
25:04 --> 25:13 [SPEAKER_00]: As we always say, that guy is a potential to be, if it all goes to the maximum percentile, he can be a 30, 30 guy with great defense in the big leagues.
25:13 --> 25:25 [SPEAKER_00]: So, if he's healthy and on the field this year, which I think he will be and he had a really good fall league, another guy that if you want to see some talent come to Arkansas this summer, I think he's going to be in that group.
25:26 --> 25:56 [SPEAKER_02]: exciting stuff in our console this year certainly very next question comes from Blake in YouTube excuse me if you're watching on YouTube I have to zoom in to look at this one because the text is really small the question from Blake Trevor may says the only way that a salary cap gets past the players is for club control to be reduced as much as a salary cap and floor be good for baseball the ms are thriving with strong development and a strong farm system
25:56 --> 26:01 [SPEAKER_02]: If Trevor Me is right, does a salary cap kill what this front office has built?
26:03 --> 26:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a good question and we've talked to Trevor about this plenty on and off the air I don't think it kills what the Mariners have built because it's going to be uniform for all 30 teams Everybody's going to have to deal with this and the Mariners have a loaded farm system for a reason So I don't think it's going to I don't think it's going to
26:22 --> 26:27 [SPEAKER_00]: kill any sort of development or make the team worse because this is what they built themselves on.
26:27 --> 26:30 [SPEAKER_00]: As they like to label themselves, they're a draft develop in trade team.
26:31 --> 26:35 [SPEAKER_00]: They develop prospects that turn into productive big league players.
26:36 --> 26:41 [SPEAKER_00]: For the sake of it benefiting or not benefiting the Mariners.
26:42 --> 26:53 [SPEAKER_00]: you're going to have to make a decision on paying guys faster that's for sure and you're going to have to decide a much shorter rate who you're going to want to keep and who you're going to want to extend and who you're going to want to pay in free agency versus not
26:53 --> 27:05 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think Trevor's right that that is something the players are going to be very adamant about that if you want to implement a salary cap, you're going to have to cut down years of club control because look at the NFL and the NBA.
27:05 --> 27:07 [SPEAKER_00]: It's four years for all those guys.
27:07 --> 27:11 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're if you're a first round pick in the NFL, you can have a fifth year option picked up.
27:12 --> 27:13 [SPEAKER_00]: But for everybody else, it's four years.
27:16 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't so they would have to change their strategy a little bit but everyone would have to change their strategy like like you said they couldn't just ride it I mean they could ride everyone to free agency but things would need to happen a lot quicker think about it this way would cow have signed his extension if it was four years instead of six if he had four years of club control or if the extension was four years so if the kiss clock was only four years he would have been a free you'd be a free agent right
27:45 --> 27:46 [SPEAKER_02]: He hadn't signed that extension.
27:47 --> 27:48 [SPEAKER_02]: How fun of a discussion with that be?
27:49 --> 27:51 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what else would be miserable to talk about?
27:52 --> 27:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Who will?
27:52 --> 27:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it would be Julio and Cal at the same time.
27:55 --> 27:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Cause Julio right now would have two years left before free agency.
27:59 --> 28:00 [SPEAKER_02]: under the current system.
28:00 --> 28:01 [SPEAKER_02]: What about under this system?
28:02 --> 28:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Where the shorter clock?
28:03 --> 28:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm guessing the shorter clock would be four years.
28:05 --> 28:08 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it would match the NFL would match the NBA.
28:08 --> 28:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
28:09 --> 28:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Under a four-year clock without the extensions, Kalen Julio would have to would have been free agents right now.
28:15 --> 28:18 [SPEAKER_02]: The team would have to be much more aggressive when it came to paying players.
28:19 --> 28:24 [SPEAKER_02]: But also think they would because of how the system is set up, understand they got to pay players.
28:25 --> 28:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Like they know how the game works.
28:27 --> 28:34 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you were going to go with a supermax NBA type of format, where supermax contracts exist, that would work.
28:34 --> 28:39 [SPEAKER_00]: And then supermax contracts and max contracts, they're two different things.
28:39 --> 28:44 [SPEAKER_00]: But it's the same amount of money every team would pay to a player on that deal.
28:45 --> 28:50 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not getting up in the $765 million bidding wars for Juan Soto.
28:50 --> 28:59 [SPEAKER_00]: You want to pay Juan Soto, there is a max amount you can pay him over four years in total money and everybody bids for him, and he chooses where he wants to play.
28:59 --> 29:00 [SPEAKER_00]: So in that way,
29:01 --> 29:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it would one level out the competition a bit and not get into and not involve so many ridiculous bidding wars.
29:09 --> 29:15 [SPEAKER_00]: But number two, I actually think it would force teams to spend more because you have to make decisions faster.
29:15 --> 29:23 [SPEAKER_00]: And because it's four year deals and not ten year deals for Tray Turner, there may be more teams willing to spend because it becomes less about
29:24 --> 29:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Right now, the way Major League Baseball is set up and the way the system is implemented, guys are getting paid for the players they were, not the players they're gonna be, which is evident with how these contracts age out over time.
29:37 --> 29:44 [SPEAKER_00]: If your max contract can only be four years like the NBA, you are going to pay a player for who they think they are going to be.
29:44 --> 29:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And I actually think that would incentivize spending more for both sides.
29:48 --> 29:54 [SPEAKER_02]: And it would make free agency way more interesting because instead of these guys becoming a free agent
29:54 --> 29:58 [SPEAKER_02]: You get a guy be a three times, three times while they're good.
29:59 --> 30:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Paul schemes in this system could get three super max contracts in major league baseball, which speaking of forcing spending, this would force the pirates hand a lot more, because Paul schemes would have, he'd still free years left, no he'd still, right, you're right because he came up late, but point being,
30:16 --> 30:25 [SPEAKER_00]: It would force the pirates to make a decision on paying him, because are you gonna let Paul schemes walk out of your building at 25 years old, 26 years old?
30:26 --> 30:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's seem crazy and way too early to let that happen.
30:29 --> 30:36 [SPEAKER_00]: But under the current system, if the pirates say to themselves, well, we'll keep him for six years and then it's unlikely he's gonna have many more peak years after that.
30:36 --> 30:38 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what they tell themselves if he was gonna leave him for agency.
30:39 --> 30:42 [SPEAKER_00]: But under a four year club control system,
30:42 --> 30:44 [SPEAKER_00]: You probably have to pay him at least once.
30:44 --> 30:50 [SPEAKER_02]: But what they're what they would also be saying under this current system is we the Dodgers would pay him whatever he wants.
30:51 --> 30:51 [SPEAKER_02]: We can't do that.
30:52 --> 30:54 [SPEAKER_02]: The Dodgers could do this.
30:55 --> 31:04 [SPEAKER_02]: bullshit contract that they offered Kyle Tucker where they give Kyle Tucker a 64 million dollar signing bonus and a one million dollar salary for this year.
31:04 --> 31:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Just the craziest thing I think I've ever seen.
31:07 --> 31:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Just just just just fucking bonkers, right?
31:10 --> 31:16 [SPEAKER_02]: No, when I say like only like three teams in baseball can do that, only three teams in baseball can do that.
31:16 --> 31:19 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what this new system's gonna would do in this scenario?
31:19 --> 31:23 [SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna have a cat and we're gonna have a floor and we're gonna have these short deals.
31:23 --> 31:25 [SPEAKER_02]: None of this garbage.
31:25 --> 31:29 [SPEAKER_00]: None of, I mean, here's a fun fact for everybody listening.
31:29 --> 31:38 [SPEAKER_00]: The LA Dodgers in 2026 will be paying the salaries of showhail, Tony, and Kyle Tucker, a combined $3 million.
31:39 --> 31:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Does that sound like a balanced fair system?
31:45 --> 31:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna go with, no.
31:48 --> 31:53 [SPEAKER_02]: The only reason that works is because the Los Angeles Dodgers can cut Kyle Tucker a $64 million check and cash.
31:54 --> 31:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Right now.
31:55 --> 31:57 [SPEAKER_02]: and pay it to them.
31:57 --> 32:09 [SPEAKER_00]: But under a system like the MBA where max contracts and supermax contracts exist, if you were going to pay a player a supermax contract, you can't get more or less than one place or the other.
32:09 --> 32:11 [SPEAKER_00]: It is the same
32:11 --> 32:18 [SPEAKER_00]: It is the same capped number in terms of highest dollar figure that every team could offer and it would be to the same player.
32:18 --> 32:24 [SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, in the NBA, you only get a certain amount of supermaxes and max contracts that you can give out.
32:25 --> 32:26 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't get to give out 15 of them.
32:27 --> 32:28 [SPEAKER_00]: You're limited to them.
32:28 --> 32:30 [SPEAKER_00]: So there is strategy involved with it.
32:30 --> 32:34 [SPEAKER_00]: We talked about the NFL system on Monday's podcast and how that could work.
32:34 --> 32:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Now we're leaning a little more into the NDA system and how that system could potentially work in baseball.
32:40 --> 32:41 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is one of the ways how.
32:42 --> 32:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Cuts down free agent years, gives all 30 teams more of a fighting chance and free agency.
32:47 --> 32:52 [SPEAKER_00]: You can't give everybody the bag when you're trying to pay free agents to system that could work.
32:53 --> 33:00 [SPEAKER_02]: And that every team knows and every fan base knows their team can pay the amount needed to get these players.
33:00 --> 33:11 [SPEAKER_00]: So to not currently exist, so to my biggest gripe, which is the big thing I'm going to be fighting during all these negotiations is do not give these owners an out.
33:12 --> 33:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I understand that not everybody can spend like the Dodgers and in that way something may need to change.
33:17 --> 33:20 [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think most of these owners deserve an out in any way shape or form.
33:20 --> 33:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I've talked about, if you implement this system in the NBA, it doesn't give them an out.
33:24 --> 33:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Where if you've got cheap owners that are refusing to spend the necessary dollars on their players after hitting free agency in a shorter amount of time, they're going to be putting a bad public light like they've always been, and with a salary floor, hopefully that all helps them force to spend a little more too.
33:42 --> 33:53 [SPEAKER_02]: But if it makes you and the listeners feel better, there is no way there's going to be a cap without, I think, at minimum four years, it's going to be like four years of control max.
33:53 --> 34:21 [SPEAKER_02]: I would agree there I don't there's no way anyone says yes to that it's going to be there's going to be a floor and then there's going to be more free agency opportunities and then maybe they won't do maxes Maybe they'll just stay how it is because I think that's part of the CBA in the NBA in the NBA I don't because the NHL doesn't have max contracts and neither does the NFL like they have what people think is the max contracts and then Patrick my homes gets the contract he gets It's not perfect
34:23 --> 34:29 [SPEAKER_02]: But that would require a little bit more strategy, but there would be a cap on how much you could spend.
34:29 --> 34:33 [SPEAKER_02]: If a team wants to spend all of their cap at once, then they're more than welcome to do so.
34:33 --> 34:36 [SPEAKER_02]: But under this new system, hopefully it's different.
34:36 --> 34:39 [SPEAKER_02]: There's another question about the cap that we're gonna get to after this next question.
34:39 --> 34:41 [SPEAKER_02]: That will kind of relate to what we were just talking about.
34:41 --> 34:47 [SPEAKER_02]: But this one, this next question from Peter on YouTube, this one is good.
34:47 --> 34:50 [SPEAKER_02]: So Peter essentially frames.
34:50 --> 35:00 [SPEAKER_02]: that he doesn't think that Boba Shed or Kyle Tucker aren't elite players and aren't players worthy of resetting the market for a position or a just a group in general picture or hitter.
35:03 --> 35:13 [SPEAKER_02]: How many players could you write down that you think deserve to reset the market before you get to a spot or not you couldn't get all 30 teams to agree that that's a player that should do that.
35:15 --> 35:17 [SPEAKER_00]: How many players in baseball right now exists like that?
35:18 --> 35:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it is a small number man.
35:19 --> 35:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I always tell you how many I got.
35:22 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_00]: How many?
35:22 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_00]: What's your number?
35:24 --> 35:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Three?
35:24 --> 35:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
35:25 --> 35:25 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
35:25 --> 35:26 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's, so show Hayes won.
35:27 --> 35:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Judge.
35:28 --> 35:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Judge, even if it is age you're saying Judge.
35:31 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
35:32 --> 35:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
35:32 --> 35:33 [SPEAKER_00]: And Bobby would junior.
35:35 --> 35:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Where does Paul's, where does Paul's gain factor into that?
35:39 --> 35:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I would put Paul's gains in there too.
35:41 --> 35:42 [SPEAKER_02]: So then four, you're right.
35:42 --> 35:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I forgot him.
35:44 --> 35:44 [SPEAKER_02]: No scuba?
35:46 --> 35:53 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like you got to pick one because which one's getting paid more?
35:54 --> 35:55 [SPEAKER_00]: It's fair point.
35:55 --> 36:00 [SPEAKER_00]: So you have a unicorn, maybe the greatest right hand ahead of all time.
36:01 --> 36:07 [SPEAKER_00]: The best short stop in the game and a guy who may already be the best pitcher in the game at 22 23 years old.
36:07 --> 36:08 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's it.
36:08 --> 36:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Even if you do put school on there, could you put anybody else?
36:11 --> 36:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm looking at the list.
36:14 --> 36:14 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
36:16 --> 36:18 [SPEAKER_00]: What was the start of the conia?
36:18 --> 36:18 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
36:18 --> 36:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, does Juan Soto's just absurd ability to hit factor into this?
36:24 --> 36:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Does it count even?
36:25 --> 36:34 [SPEAKER_02]: The thing is, the only reason Soto's contract is that high is because Scott Morris played his games.
36:36 --> 36:40 [SPEAKER_00]: But you wouldn't give Juan Soto's 60 million a year A.V.
36:40 --> 36:46 [SPEAKER_02]: over a shorter period, I would.
36:48 --> 36:50 [SPEAKER_00]: they probably deserve similar money.
36:50 --> 36:53 [SPEAKER_00]: One sodos eight years younger or seven years younger.
36:55 --> 37:04 [SPEAKER_02]: The way I thought about the question is, which essentially like, which player do you think deserves no doubt all 30 teams would say deserves to set the market for AAV?
37:04 --> 37:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think you get 30 teams for one soda with the defense?
37:09 --> 37:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know if you could get 13s for anything.
37:11 --> 37:13 [SPEAKER_00]: The Pittsburgh Pirates and Oakland A's exist.
37:13 --> 37:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Or I'm sorry, the A's.
37:14 --> 37:17 [SPEAKER_02]: So even if I put one soda here, we're sitting at six players.
37:17 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_02]: We're sitting at Judge, Show Hay, Bobby Witt, Paul Scheme's Terri Schubel, one soda.
37:23 --> 37:24 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a lot, man.
37:25 --> 37:28 [SPEAKER_00]: You're right, Acunius, probably not on that list because as great as he is, too many injuries.
37:29 --> 37:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Too many injuries, Catell, Great Player, No, Julio, Love him, No, Cal, Catcher, DeGrades.
37:36 --> 37:37 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
37:39 --> 37:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Who else are we forgetting anybody I mean pull up the war leaders from this year.
37:44 --> 37:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean obviously not Trout Kurt's is way too young and still has to prove a lot more and Annie's a first baseman Which doesn't help like could you you couldn't even so Vlad got paid five hundred million dollars I wouldn't put him on here
37:58 --> 38:00 [SPEAKER_00]: No, because he's had years in his career.
38:00 --> 38:03 [SPEAKER_00]: We're again, he's on pace for the Hall of Fame.
38:03 --> 38:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't get me wrong.
38:03 --> 38:07 [SPEAKER_00]: But Vlad is had a couple of years that were a little bit down for his standards.
38:07 --> 38:12 [SPEAKER_00]: He had won a 120 something WRC plus a year or two ago.
38:13 --> 38:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll get these back in a year.
38:15 --> 38:16 [SPEAKER_00]: But it wasn't.
38:17 --> 38:24 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, Vladia, that crazy couple of years in 21 and 22, and then up until 25, it was a little bit different.
38:24 --> 38:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in 2023, Vladia put up a 1-16 OPS.
38:28 --> 38:28 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what it was.
38:28 --> 38:30 [SPEAKER_00]: In 24, he went nuclear.
38:30 --> 38:31 [SPEAKER_00]: 25, he was really good again.
38:31 --> 38:36 [SPEAKER_00]: But in in 2023, he was a 1-16 OPS plus hitter.
38:36 --> 38:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking at some of these other guys on the war leader board like
38:51 --> 39:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Age is that factoring into it like Hall of Famer like Whole Famer, but I I mean he's definitely elite All right, I'll put Jram on here.
39:04 --> 39:13 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so it's seven That was cool the Jram came out the other day and talked about his contracting Cleveland said and said yeah, I know I could have gotten double the money, but
39:14 --> 39:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I really like Cleveland.
39:15 --> 39:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I like how I've been treated here.
39:16 --> 39:18 [SPEAKER_00]: My family really likes it here.
39:18 --> 39:20 [SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't care about getting the maximum dollar figure.
39:21 --> 39:27 [SPEAKER_00]: I just told them, find me a deal that's fair and that works in your guys' reigns and budget and we'll work it out.
39:27 --> 39:30 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't see many players do that, but shout out credit to Jaram.
39:30 --> 39:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's it, man.
39:32 --> 39:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Because the next play of really looking at war leader boards and next players with Lindor, I would not put Lindor on there.
39:37 --> 39:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Very, very, very good, not a market center.
39:41 --> 39:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Tatees, no, Julio, no, pain, you know, Garcia.
39:45 --> 39:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
39:45 --> 39:46 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
39:46 --> 39:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Seven.
39:47 --> 39:48 [SPEAKER_02]: That's our list.
39:49 --> 39:53 [SPEAKER_00]: When you're not algorithms healthy, if you were going to pay him as much money as you couldn't create it.
39:53 --> 39:57 [SPEAKER_02]: No, too many injuries, injuries, and he doesn't have a position.
39:58 --> 40:01 [SPEAKER_02]: But he's like you have to be the best hitter in the, you have to be the best hitter in the league.
40:03 --> 40:04 [SPEAKER_00]: But he is like soda.
40:04 --> 40:07 [SPEAKER_00]: He is like soda when he is healthy and hitting.
40:07 --> 40:09 [SPEAKER_02]: He was.
40:09 --> 40:12 [SPEAKER_02]: in three years ago.
40:14 --> 40:15 [SPEAKER_02]: It's been less than that.
40:17 --> 40:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, I mean, your down was amazing in 2022.
40:21 --> 40:23 [SPEAKER_02]: But since then, it's been injuries.
40:23 --> 40:24 [SPEAKER_02]: It's been.
40:25 --> 40:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean last year he played 147 games with a 170 OPS plus do you think he deserves to be on a list with those, but you think he's a good enough hitter to be on a list with these guys.
40:42 --> 40:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I do.
40:43 --> 40:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to be honest.
40:44 --> 40:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean he's like 80 percentage points below judge.
40:48 --> 40:53 [SPEAKER_00]: But Judge is absurd, he's like a, I mean, Judge is maybe the greatest right hand ahead or ever.
40:53 --> 40:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Look at what Yordon's done by year in his career, just like you've reset the market for Yordon Alvarez.
41:01 --> 41:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, just with the approach and the walks and the homers don't get to think about it, I would not reset the market.
41:09 --> 41:11 [SPEAKER_02]: It would you give him $300 million.
41:14 --> 41:16 [SPEAKER_00]: If Soto got $765,
41:18 --> 41:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Jordan's a little older, but I feel like I'd give you Jordan 300 million.
41:21 --> 41:23 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
41:23 --> 41:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
41:23 --> 41:28 [SPEAKER_02]: OK. Andries and so-to-technically plays a position, even if he's dog shit at it.
41:29 --> 41:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Jordan doesn't.
41:32 --> 41:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, he's a, he gets hurt as a DH.
41:35 --> 41:38 [SPEAKER_00]: But shouldn't Jordan and so-to be looked at the same in terms of their defensive value?
41:40 --> 41:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.
41:42 --> 41:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the injuries killed it for me.
41:45 --> 42:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I would not put your on on this list all I'm saying is if you look by year at your Don and his OPS plus up until 25 where he only played 48 games because he was totally injured all year by OPS plus since his rookie year goes 173 153 went down in 2021 to a whopping 136 which is still a
42:05 --> 42:07 [SPEAKER_00]: ridiculous all-star type level.
42:08 --> 42:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Then he had a three-year stretch from 22 to 24 of 188 170 170.
42:13 --> 42:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I think I would personally pay him.
42:18 --> 42:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's where you and I are in a different boat.
42:20 --> 42:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Great, he's a great hitter.
42:22 --> 42:26 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just not convinced he's a great enough overall player to warrant that contract.
42:27 --> 42:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Personal opinion.
42:28 --> 42:29 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a good question.
42:29 --> 42:30 [SPEAKER_00]: That's Mark debate.
42:30 --> 42:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Next question comes from Thompson on YouTube and Thompson's question is, if a cap does happen, how do we think the illegal go about enforcing it and getting these teams in line from the old system?
42:45 --> 42:50 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to take some time because like I've said, even if you get the salary cap in place, what are you going to do?
42:50 --> 42:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Take players off the Dodgers?
42:52 --> 42:52 [SPEAKER_00]: You can.
42:52 --> 42:54 [SPEAKER_00]: These guys are about to run it up for a decade.
42:55 --> 42:56 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the team.
42:56 --> 42:58 [SPEAKER_00]: They've set in place.
42:59 --> 43:03 [SPEAKER_00]: What could you implement in the future to have it be set?
43:03 --> 43:13 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think it's, if you want to go back to the MBA model, I think this is how you start to lose draft picks, lose the ability to sign further free agents.
43:13 --> 43:17 [SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be serious penalties, along with probably paying these luxury taxes.
43:18 --> 43:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I brushed up on the rules with the NBA's second apron, which is their, their highest level of salary tax of, of, yeah, of luxury tax.
43:28 --> 43:30 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a little confusing, not going to lie.
43:31 --> 43:41 [SPEAKER_02]: If any of you go read it and digest it better, please leave us a comment in a more plain description that is let's do a third grade reading level for us.
43:41 --> 43:45 [SPEAKER_02]: So everyone, everyone reading in the comments can understand it.
43:45 --> 43:55 [SPEAKER_02]: But from what I could understand with the apron, like if you go all the way above, the NBA's second tier, you can't sign players.
43:57 --> 44:10 [SPEAKER_02]: And you can't trade for players that would increase your payroll only if you're losing salary or dead even That's something that made Julie baseball does not have the Dodgers want to trade and keep going up.
44:10 --> 44:12 [SPEAKER_02]: They can keep going up.
44:12 --> 44:12 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a big issue.
44:13 --> 44:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay.
44:14 --> 44:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Now that the actual question How it would be a good way to rain everyone in What I think they would have to agree upon is they would have to do a gradual progression both at the bottom and the top
44:27 --> 44:44 [SPEAKER_02]: to get teams into the window they want for a salary cap in a salary floor you're right we're not going to get the Dodgers payroll under a say 220 million dollar cap by next year that's impossible they would have to shed half their payroll.
44:44 --> 44:51 [SPEAKER_02]: What you could do though is like Dodgers, great, you guys can run out this payroll, but here's what's gonna happen.
44:51 --> 45:00 [SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna move the tax down and we're gonna increase the penalties more over the course of say five seasons to get everyone in line.
45:00 --> 45:09 [SPEAKER_02]: And by the time we hit season number five, your payroll better be within, better be within it, or I mean if you're over, then you're gonna suffer the full penalties.
45:10 --> 45:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Cause that's how it's gonna work, but it's not just for the Dodgers.
45:14 --> 45:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey Pittsburgh, hey Miami, we see you guys don't have much salary on the books.
45:18 --> 45:21 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no pressure to spend yet, but here's what's going to happen.
45:22 --> 45:24 [SPEAKER_02]: This year, salary four is going to be this.
45:25 --> 45:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Next year, salary four is going to be this year after that, salary four is going to be even a little bit higher than by the time you reach your five.
45:33 --> 45:41 [SPEAKER_02]: That salary floor could be 90% of what the salary cap is and then everybody is in line.
45:41 --> 45:47 [SPEAKER_02]: So you give people, you give teams a little bit of runway to get there and sort out their payroll situations.
45:48 --> 45:54 [SPEAKER_02]: But in the end, you go, sorry Dodgers and all the other 29 owners who hate to see what the Dodgers are doing.
45:54 --> 45:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Go, sorry.
45:55 --> 45:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think they're going to feel bad about it?
45:57 --> 45:58 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
45:59 --> 46:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably not.
46:01 --> 46:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would agree.
46:03 --> 46:05 [SPEAKER_00]: There is going to be severe penalties that have to be implemented.
46:06 --> 46:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, teams aren't going to take it seriously.
46:08 --> 46:11 [SPEAKER_00]: And nothing's going to change.
46:11 --> 46:13 [SPEAKER_00]: So yes, there is going to be severe penalties.
46:14 --> 46:25 [SPEAKER_00]: And things like losing significant draft picks is going to be a big deal of the teams, because for these teams that don't spend and rely on drafting and developing, losing significant draft picks,
46:26 --> 46:36 [SPEAKER_00]: is going to make a huge difference to them because then you're not even going to have anybody on your team that could produce any sort of productivity because you won't spend any don't have draft picks.
46:36 --> 46:38 [SPEAKER_00]: So there is going to be severe penalties.
46:40 --> 46:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody is going to go into this wanting the Dodgers to feel a warm and fuzzy body and the goal is to dis, the goal for the other owners and baseball is to dismantle what the Dodgers are doing.
46:50 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_02]: that what they want is to take this incredible niche cheat code they have of a franchise of a TV deal of an integration into the Japanese market, which I mean, some of his location, some of it is market, some of it is hiring the right people, some of it is just their lucky.
47:11 --> 47:16 [SPEAKER_02]: that their owner happens to get divorced at the same time their television deal goes up.
47:17 --> 47:22 [SPEAKER_02]: And the other 29 owners are going to say, OK, you're screwing us over here in this new CBA.
47:23 --> 47:27 [SPEAKER_02]: We're going to screw you over as revenge almost.
47:28 --> 47:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And welcome down to our level.
47:30 --> 47:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Although the reality of that is some of it is honestly just the showhailotani effect.
47:36 --> 47:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, certainly.
47:37 --> 47:40 [SPEAKER_02]: But showhailotani doesn't give them that TV deal.
47:40 --> 47:44 [SPEAKER_00]: No, he doesn't, but I just mean having such a presence over in Japan.
47:44 --> 47:46 [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of that is just the Shell Hay Effect.
47:46 --> 47:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Can the Dodgers sign, Show Hay, if they don't have that TV deal?
47:51 --> 47:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, but then who would have signed, Show Hay?
47:53 --> 48:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, maybe it would have been an actual bidding process, instead of one team saying, oh, hey, we have $700 million we can give you.
48:01 --> 48:02 [SPEAKER_02]: and then defer all of it.
48:03 --> 48:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Just think of all the things that had to lead up to it.
48:05 --> 48:14 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the reason the Dodgers put themselves in such a good situation has been so successful for so long and they can spend all this money because they have all of this money.
48:15 --> 48:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Like they spend like the decade plus after the McCourt's with this new TV deal,
48:22 --> 48:32 [SPEAKER_02]: integrating it all into their franchise and spending on stars and playing in the world series over and over and over and over until when showhaze finally a free agency.
48:32 --> 48:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah, they have a good pitch for them because they had all that all that buildup before that.
48:38 --> 48:39 [SPEAKER_02]: What did that didn't exist?
48:41 --> 48:42 [SPEAKER_00]: What did they all just like everyone else?
48:43 --> 48:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And it all started with the Boston Red Sox refusing to pay mooky bets.
48:49 --> 48:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean even before that, but yeah,
48:52 --> 48:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
48:53 --> 48:56 [SPEAKER_00]: That's when this run of the Dodgers error really started.
48:56 --> 48:58 [SPEAKER_00]: The Dodgers that people are pissed off at.
48:59 --> 49:07 [SPEAKER_02]: But all these things that have led to the Dodgers being successful, it's snowballed over the course of the past.
49:07 --> 49:16 [SPEAKER_02]: However, many years since the new ownership took place, and they have now greatly benefited from it, and will continue to into the future.
49:16 --> 49:21 [SPEAKER_02]: And the owners are going to try and come after their TV deal.
49:21 --> 49:23 [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to try and come after their salaries.
49:23 --> 49:26 [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to try and penalize the crap out of them for what they're doing.
49:26 --> 49:29 [SPEAKER_02]: It's they're the only one they get to play on that playing field.
49:30 --> 49:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I agree We got any more questions.
49:35 --> 49:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes, we do have just got so into that one.
49:38 --> 49:49 [SPEAKER_02]: I forgot one more We do have a trade proposal, but we haven't seen this one so I thought we'd include it Ethan on Twitter asks What do you think about the Mariners acquiring CJ Abrams from the nationals?
49:50 --> 49:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen this float it out a little bit over the course of the offseason and
49:55 --> 50:04 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just not really sure how it makes sense with the Mariners set to go and place Colt Emerson as their everyday short stop starting in 2027.
50:05 --> 50:19 [SPEAKER_00]: So we believe, and how it would work in 2026 with JP and with Colt and with CJ Abrams, along with the fact that since Abrams has three years of club control, he's probably gonna cost a lot and he's not a perfect player.
50:20 --> 50:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it'd be a hard package to muster up.
50:22 --> 50:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the nation's going to ask for a lot, and he's good, he's very good player and can be an all star, but he's not a perfect player.
50:31 --> 50:33 [SPEAKER_02]: The Mariners didn't have Colt Emerson.
50:33 --> 50:36 [SPEAKER_02]: This is a different discussion, but since they have him,
50:37 --> 50:39 [SPEAKER_02]: And they clearly don't have to pay any prospects for Colt Emerson.
50:40 --> 50:44 [SPEAKER_02]: The package for CJ just wouldn't quite be as much.
50:44 --> 50:55 [SPEAKER_02]: There is the slight character concerns everyone remembers the end of last season where CJ Abrams was photoed at a casino at 4am when he had a day game.
50:55 --> 50:59 [SPEAKER_02]: nine hours later, and the nationals suspended him for the rest of the season for that.
50:59 --> 51:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, teams take notice of that, especially when they're going to trade significant prospect capital for the player.
51:05 --> 51:13 [SPEAKER_02]: And if the Mariners were going to trade for him, you'd think they would want to extend him as well, just to make it more worth their money.
51:13 --> 51:14 [SPEAKER_02]: These young these fun.
51:14 --> 51:15 [SPEAKER_02]: He's got a lot of tools.
51:16 --> 51:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Doesn't really line up with the nationals current window, given they're still in the heat of rebuild, and their next wave of guys is much younger than he is.
51:26 --> 51:33 [SPEAKER_02]: The idea of them trading and making sense, the idea of the Mariners trading for him doesn't make as much sense.
51:33 --> 51:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Good player though, if he's available on a bargain, yeah, I'd take him.
51:38 --> 51:47 [SPEAKER_02]: But Colt, if he's dead sit on playing shortstop, the mayor said Colt, Emerson, and whatever insane package you would have to go up to the nationals, probably wouldn't be worth it.
51:49 --> 51:54 [SPEAKER_00]: He's mostly a seven, 50 type OPS guy, and he's not a great defender.
51:55 --> 51:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know if that's worth trading a whole lot of prospects for.
51:59 --> 52:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, he's totally hits about 20 homers.
52:01 --> 52:05 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, he has pop, he's a good athlete, but
52:06 --> 52:11 [SPEAKER_00]: again, not great on defense and isn't a world beater offensively.
52:12 --> 52:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Here's something, wouldn't the price for CJ Abrams right now?
52:17 --> 52:18 [SPEAKER_02]: How many years have controlled as you have?
52:18 --> 52:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Three years?
52:19 --> 52:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's three or three more years of control.
52:21 --> 52:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Wouldn't the price for him be Colt Emerson?
52:26 --> 52:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that's where this conversation ends.
52:28 --> 52:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
52:29 --> 52:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Like would you rather of cold Emerson, would you rather trade cold Emerson for a more expensive shortstop who's good, but has his flaws?
52:38 --> 52:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
52:39 --> 52:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.
52:41 --> 52:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
52:42 --> 52:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Same.
52:42 --> 52:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Good question though.
52:43 --> 52:44 [SPEAKER_00]: In general, great batch of questions.
52:45 --> 52:47 [SPEAKER_00]: You saw that sparked a ton of conversation throughout this one.
52:47 --> 52:50 [SPEAKER_00]: So as we say, you guys are awesome with these.
52:50 --> 52:51 [SPEAKER_00]: You get creative.
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53:02 --> 53:05 [SPEAKER_00]: and we will answer your mail bag questions whenever you send them.
53:05 --> 53:09 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the salary cap is like given me the fountain of youth.
53:09 --> 53:12 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like fine, I don't have to talk about name redacted.
53:12 --> 53:16 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have to talk about Nico Horner.
53:17 --> 53:19 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have to talk about Katel Marté.
53:20 --> 53:20 [SPEAKER_02]: None of that.
53:21 --> 53:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's honestly, I love getting to talk about a new subject.
53:25 --> 53:30 [SPEAKER_00]: The problem is it's a subject that's going to force us to get to not watch baseball.
53:30 --> 53:30 [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
53:30 --> 53:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
53:31 --> 53:33 [SPEAKER_02]: But that part is not our fault.
53:34 --> 53:35 [SPEAKER_02]: That is not our fault.
53:35 --> 53:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I get baseball as the strongest union.
53:38 --> 53:41 [SPEAKER_02]: But, and that's why they will fight this tooth and now.
53:43 --> 53:51 [SPEAKER_02]: But even though, I will say, in the past, we've been pretty staunchly anti-cap, like we are becoming a little bit more open-minded now.
53:51 --> 53:59 [SPEAKER_02]: And we're, as we're talking through all these scenarios and these mailbox and such, there are things that make a lot of sense.
54:00 --> 54:01 [SPEAKER_02]: There it is.
54:01 --> 54:05 [SPEAKER_02]: That could greatly benefit the Mariners in this new system.
54:06 --> 54:07 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'll say what I said the other day.
54:07 --> 54:09 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't have a perfect stance on this.
54:10 --> 54:17 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't have an insanely strong opinion about need this, screw this, I don't want this, but implement this.
54:17 --> 54:44 [SPEAKER_00]: it's more curiosity we have at this point because so much of it is not fleshed out and so much of this is just starting to get talked through that i think it's more curiosity that we have about talking through potential ideas about what could work i think that's more what it is i don't have a definitive answer on what's perfectly right for the game but that's why we're talking about it right as solid sales pitch is would you like the mayor's to have the same chance of signing Kyle Tucker as the Dodgers
54:45 --> 54:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Are you asking me that question?
54:47 --> 54:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
54:48 --> 54:49 [SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
54:50 --> 54:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm down.
54:52 --> 54:57 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of time to discuss this between now and when they're actually going to decide this, but thank you guys for the questions.
54:58 --> 55:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Very interesting and definitely sparks some really good discussion.
55:01 --> 55:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Reminder, we are doing our top 50 Mariners players of all time on Monday.
55:06 --> 55:09 [SPEAKER_02]: If you want to get some early ideas in for us, we don't forget anybody.
55:10 --> 55:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Leave it in the comments.
55:12 --> 55:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Do it.
55:13 --> 55:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, honestly, do this.
55:15 --> 55:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Let us know you don't even have to flesh it all the way out.
55:18 --> 55:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Tell us your most insane pull for who your top 50 mayor in our all time would be.
55:24 --> 55:25 [SPEAKER_00]: agreed, go do it.
55:26 --> 55:32 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, mark on your calendars for February 11th, Mariners Trivia night with us.
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55:47 --> 55:50 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be really, really fun, and we hope to see all there.
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55:52 --> 55:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I think that just about wraps up this edition of the Marine Lair podcast.
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