Lyle and TJ preview the Mariners non-roster invitees for Spring Training, and who has the best chance to break out.
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Infielders (14:44)
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00:00 --> 00:10 [SPEAKER_01]: But when episode number 362 of the Marine Lair podcast, we have all of the Mariners non-Roster invites for spring training, we'll go through the entire list and break it down for you.
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01:02 --> 01:31 [SPEAKER_01]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just baseball podcast network recording here on Wednesday afternoon February 4th Yes, we did not record this after the Super Bowl whatever the result is I'm sure we'll have something to say about it on Wednesday's episode But since Lyle is at the Super Bowl or was at the Super Bowl we are recording this well in advance So if you want to hear some of our thoughts on that you're gonna have to wait for Wednesday's episode also our reminder before we get into the topic of this episode
01:31 --> 01:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Wednesday, this upcoming Wednesday, February 11th, 7 p.m. at Queen Anne Beer Hall.
01:37 --> 01:41 [SPEAKER_01]: We have our trivia night with prizes, including potentially opening day tickets.
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01:47 --> 01:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Now that football is over, that's at Queen Anne Beer Hall, Marine Lair podcast, Mariners trivia night.
01:52 --> 01:55 [SPEAKER_01]: 7 p.m. Hope to see you guys there.
01:56 --> 01:57 [SPEAKER_01]: What do we think we're feeling right now?
01:57 --> 02:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Lyle, we're just going to predict, predict into the future.
02:00 --> 02:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I was about to add on to your call to action about getting people out to trivia night and say, potentially just come on out after the parade, but I don't know.
02:11 --> 02:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to feel terrible if they somehow lose the game and I'm sitting here on this podcast on a Monday saying, hey, in advance, congrats to the Super Bowl champions, the Adel C. Hawks, while people are down in the dumps.
02:21 --> 02:22 [SPEAKER_00]: So.
02:22 --> 02:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I am going to say we're feeling really good and people are going to be really really floating on air here on this Monday, but man, if we were sitting here just taking a victory lap as they lost to the Patriots, that would be terrible.
02:35 --> 02:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Then you guys can roast us in the comments and say, wow, what a bunch of idiots.
02:39 --> 03:04 [SPEAKER_01]: what about you guys don't know ball what a bunch of losers in which i'd respond and say what i always say yes we are losers were mariners fans for crying out loud like i'm i'm gonna say excited and i hope i'm right yeah me i'm i'm in the i'm in the same boat as you so if you want to hear that again tune into Wednesday's episode on marine larpodcast trivia night queen and berhol hope to see you guys there
03:04 --> 03:11 [SPEAKER_01]: But until then, we do have the full list of non-roster invites for Mariners spring training this year.
03:12 --> 03:14 [SPEAKER_01]: The main roster we pretty much already know.
03:14 --> 03:16 [SPEAKER_01]: We will spend some time talking about them as well.
03:17 --> 03:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Over the course of this upcoming year, they're probably going to get 90% of the attention when it comes to this podcast.
03:23 --> 03:26 [SPEAKER_01]: We have a list of non-roster invites for Mariners spring training.
03:27 --> 03:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And we want to go through it section by section.
03:31 --> 03:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Should we start with the pitchers?
03:33 --> 03:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's do that.
03:34 --> 03:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, taking a look at the pictures and if you want to do it, if you want to follow along with us, I'm not going to try and read out every name.
03:41 --> 04:00 [SPEAKER_01]: We're just going to go and pick and choose some that we think are interesting to talk about in the given groups, if you'd like to see the full list,
04:01 --> 04:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's clarify something to start.
04:03 --> 04:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Duranjolo's on here, Duranjolo's St. Jo, who last week, a week ago, by the time this episode comes out, will have been traded to the Cardinals for Brendan Donovan.
04:13 --> 04:21 [SPEAKER_01]: He will not be at Mariners' spring training anymore, but the rest of this list, I think, is as accurate as it could possibly get.
04:21 --> 04:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Number one stand out for me and Mariners Big League camp is Randy Dobnek.
04:27 --> 04:27 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm kidding.
04:28 --> 04:33 [SPEAKER_01]: It's probably Ryan Sloan who's I think going to be the youngest among all of these players.
04:34 --> 04:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm right.
04:35 --> 05:05 [SPEAKER_00]: which credit to the mariners man they do this with their premiere prospects and I think it's nothing but a good thing because Ryan Sloan is obviously not making the team out of spring training this year by making the team I mean the big league club but there is no harm and no downside to having him get to spend the first two weeks or so of spring training in the big league clubhouse around the big league players because there's an off chance that by the end of the year he's one of them but he's up by the end of the season of everything
05:05 --> 05:08 [SPEAKER_00]: and pitching out of the bullpen in the postseason, or he could be up in 27.
05:08 --> 05:13 [SPEAKER_00]: So why not get him around the action and get him around big league games in into Big League games early?
05:13 --> 05:17 [SPEAKER_00]: For the guy that has been tabbed is potentially the best pitcher in the system?
05:17 --> 05:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Do it even even despite the fact he's only thrown a few innings and ever it and I'm going to guess he's going to get a few big league spring training starts I mean these guys usually do right.
05:26 --> 05:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I would assume Sloan's going to get a couple of three inning starts or I think or if not Or maybe three out of the bullpen.
05:34 --> 05:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just piggybacked right.
05:35 --> 05:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so they would piggyback after the starters done and then Say Logan Gilbert would get the pitch count.
05:40 --> 05:44 [SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to get to and then Ryan Sloan would come and after him and throw the pitch count.
05:44 --> 05:45 [SPEAKER_01]: He's trying to get to right after that
05:46 --> 05:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Not perfect, but when you're not already a big league or you don't get the big league priority, unfortunately.
05:52 --> 06:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, if you're a Mariners fan and you're down at Spring Training and you happen to see on the schedule that there's going to be a game featuring Brian Wu or Logan Gilbert starting followed by Ryan Sloan, I would hop on, I would hop on I-10 and haul ass down to Pioria to see that game.
06:12 --> 06:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I would too.
06:13 --> 06:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's a chance or chance, they're, they probably will happen if that's the case for Sloan.
06:17 --> 06:32 [SPEAKER_01]: The same case would be made for Kate Anderson, who will also be in Mariners Big League camp and will also probably get some innings, especially his experiences he is pitching in the SEC, being the number three overall pick, being a college pitcher that he's going to get some opportunity.
06:32 --> 06:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe even more lengthen Ryan Sloan.
06:34 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_01]: and Mariners bigly can't.
06:36 --> 06:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Sloan, according to the outlet, could be ranked higher than Kate Anderson, but Kate's got the college experience, so that could give him a little bit extra bump.
06:45 --> 06:48 [SPEAKER_01]: So though, I think the story is the same though for those two.
06:48 --> 06:57 [SPEAKER_01]: They will be in Mariners camp for roughly the same amount of time to get some innings under their belt, and then they'll eventually get reassigned to minorly can.
06:57 --> 07:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I figured Kade might last a little bit longer in Big League camp than Sloan, just because you said, in terms of the seal, in terms of the floor, he's closer than Sloan is, because he's older and a little more experienced because of the college background.
07:12 --> 07:19 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I don't think either of those guys are expecting to make the team out of camp, the Mariners certainly aren't planning to have those guys make the team out of camp.
07:19 --> 07:23 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a great experience, and I can't wait to see him in some Big League action.
07:23 --> 07:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think they're roughly going to have the same ending count this year.
07:26 --> 07:28 [SPEAKER_01]: How many innings did Ryan Sloan throw last year?
07:28 --> 07:30 [SPEAKER_01]: He threw what a hundred?
07:30 --> 07:34 [SPEAKER_00]: They were really, really careful with them last year.
07:34 --> 07:36 [SPEAKER_00]: For all the right reasons as a high school arm.
07:36 --> 07:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he ever surpassed five innings in a star.
07:40 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_00]: He may not have surpassed four many times.
07:43 --> 07:47 [SPEAKER_01]: He threw a combined 82 innings last year.
07:47 --> 07:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so cave through four about 40 innings more last year at LSU.
07:52 --> 07:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Cades' projection for this year would be what?
07:54 --> 07:59 [SPEAKER_01]: 140 to 150 innings wise and out assume Sloan's is going to be like 110 to 120?
08:00 --> 08:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
08:01 --> 08:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Found a thing.
08:02 --> 08:04 [SPEAKER_00]: And for the record, Sloan went over four innings.
08:05 --> 08:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Twice, all year.
08:07 --> 08:09 [SPEAKER_00]: So they were very, very careful for every good reason.
08:10 --> 08:35 [SPEAKER_01]: which would be even more reason why you just assign him to minor league camp so you can have complete control over his pitch count and he's literally he's only pitching exactly where you want him but we'll see a little bit more that length this year just not a ton I wouldn't expect Ryan Sloan to throw 150 innings this year which means when the bolts don't count and spring training and the mariners see what they want to see he's done he's done pitching and a similar but like slightly loose
08:35 --> 09:05 [SPEAKER_01]: uh... slightly loose restriction will be placed on kdnderson as well who unlike slone had to deal to me john surgery a couple of years ago and the manager very much aware of that after this past year was his first full season essentially ever throwing and it came post surgery so you want to be careful with him those two guys i'm excited for another guy i'm excited to see and see him get potentially getting some big league games i've floated out on friday's episode as
09:05 --> 09:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Just to keep his name on your mind, potential bullpen arm if everything goes 100% right.
09:13 --> 09:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Teddy McGrath will be a big league camp.
09:16 --> 09:18 [SPEAKER_01]: And he will be a reliever, I assume.
09:19 --> 09:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is the opportunity where he's going to throw against big leagueers, showcases great stuff.
09:26 --> 09:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And maybe because he's finally in the situation, we can talk to him and ask him how he's feeling and get up.
09:32 --> 09:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like get a better sense of his health if you want to share that with us, because I've always been fascinated.
09:38 --> 09:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Like he, like you said, he barely pitched after he was hurt last year.
09:41 --> 09:42 [SPEAKER_01]: So like, what is it?
09:43 --> 09:45 [SPEAKER_01]: What is it going to take for him to like pitch the whole season?
09:45 --> 09:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of curious.
09:46 --> 09:52 [SPEAKER_01]: But opportunity-wise, it holds up that, like this is an opportunity for him to showcase himself in front of the Big League Club.
09:53 --> 09:56 [SPEAKER_00]: and he's a high octane arm that can get up to a hundred.
09:56 --> 10:03 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember when he got back from the first injury and through his first innings as a mariner, that he was running it up in the upper 90s.
10:04 --> 10:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how long that's gonna last just what the injury history has had.
10:07 --> 10:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope a long time, but while you've got it, I'd love to see it in action, this spring, this summer, especially if he rises through the system quick as a reliever.
10:19 --> 10:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we've never talked to Teddy.
10:20 --> 10:23 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'd be curious if he's around bigly camp,
10:23 --> 10:26 [SPEAKER_00]: not just the sea always feeling but just see what he's like.
10:26 --> 10:27 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm curious what the personality is.
10:27 --> 10:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Is he your typical bullpen, you know, aggressive, get all amped up for 20 minutes at a time bullpen arm who gets in and just maxes out.
10:37 --> 10:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Does he have that type of personality or is he more laid back and let's it out only when he's on the mound like Gabe's fire.
10:43 --> 10:47 [SPEAKER_01]: It's taking a graph kind of, it's kind of like a mystery, it kind of feels like a mystery.
10:48 --> 10:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's a mystery, because again, he's battled so many injuries, it's tough to know.
10:52 --> 10:54 [SPEAKER_01]: And even at Wake Forest, when he was getting drafted.
10:55 --> 11:00 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I beat, I think that's why I have him circled as one of the most interesting guys I would talk to.
11:00 --> 11:07 [SPEAKER_01]: We see our guy Tyler Cleveland in there, I think the same applies for him as a chance to get up to the big leagues this year.
11:07 --> 11:21 [SPEAKER_01]: In terms of other guys, I mean, I'm excited to see Mikey, good for Mikey's in Big League camp, because Michael Morales did not, was not healthy at the beginning of spring training last year, so we didn't have that opportunity, but now he will.
11:21 --> 11:25 [SPEAKER_00]: No, and I wouldn't be shocked if he was just behind the April all year.
11:25 --> 11:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure we'll talk to Mikey when we see him down at camp, but
11:29 --> 11:58 [SPEAKER_00]: He started what a month late last year six weeks late into the year because he was battling that elbow He was battling that elbow injury and I can't imagine that was Exactly a walk in the park to deal with all year So you got to remember the year before Michael Morales was co-pitcher of the year in the Mariners system If he's fully healthy now, yeah, I'd be really interested to see what he could do this year I'm sure he'll start and double I again, but For how he looks in big league camp for what he could do in some of these spring training games
11:58 --> 11:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Great.
11:59 --> 12:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm glad to see some of our guys and some of the friends of the pod in Big League camp.
12:03 --> 12:04 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be fun.
12:04 --> 12:10 [SPEAKER_00]: In terms of Tyler Cleveland, he's different than Teddy McGraw, because Tyler doesn't throw incredibly hard.
12:11 --> 12:13 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like his strikeout rate is not through the roof.
12:13 --> 12:16 [SPEAKER_00]: He almost has a reliever.
12:16 --> 12:24 [SPEAKER_00]: He more kitchen sinks people and induces weak contact, but that weak contact has garnered him ridiculous results and incredibly low ERAs.
12:25 --> 12:27 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm curious how far away he'll be this year.
12:28 --> 12:35 [SPEAKER_01]: But I was more saying like, this is a reliever with an opportunity to make the Big League club at some point this year when they need it.
12:35 --> 12:36 [SPEAKER_00]: For sure, for sure.
12:37 --> 12:45 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just highlighting that in terms of him versus Teddy McGraw, the profiles are different, but in a perfect world, they both really hit it off this year.
12:45 --> 12:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, you could see him in the big leagues.
12:48 --> 12:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Anything else stand out for the pictures?
12:50 --> 12:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, are we going to go through Randy Dobnak?
12:54 --> 12:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Casey Lawrence can win the three-point contest again?
12:59 --> 13:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what was his line after he wanted?
13:00 --> 13:05 [SPEAKER_00]: He said, I'd like to thank my college basketball coaches for telling me to stick to baseball.
13:06 --> 13:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I do credit to Casey Lawrence.
13:09 --> 13:16 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners, I'm guessing, well, him with the Mariners, made himself some decent money last year.
13:16 --> 13:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I know it's not the most glamorous life when you're coming up, making a spot star, DFA, back to Tacoma, a spot star to again, DFA to again.
13:24 --> 13:36 [SPEAKER_00]: But when your Casey Lawrence and you basically know that the Mariners are happy to keep you in their system and they'll just keep running that process with the idea that nobody's probably gonna pick them up at this point in his late 30s
13:36 --> 13:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Every spot start he makes, that's a big league paycheck.
13:40 --> 13:47 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're a Casey Lawrence, he essentially knows he's in one spot all year, so he can live somewhere in the Seattle area somewhere between Seattle and Tacoma likely.
13:49 --> 13:52 [SPEAKER_00]: And he'll make big league money throughout point to the year.
13:52 --> 13:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Why not?
13:53 --> 13:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Good for Casey Lawrence.
13:55 --> 13:55 [SPEAKER_01]: It's great.
13:55 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_01]: And what would you put the DFA number at for him this year?
14:00 --> 14:03 [SPEAKER_01]: because especially unfortunately with Logan getting hurt.
14:04 --> 14:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Not only does that open up starts, but everyone else.
14:07 --> 14:09 [SPEAKER_01]: It opens up starts for Casey Lawrence.
14:10 --> 14:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's go four and a half.
14:11 --> 14:12 [SPEAKER_01]: You going over under.
14:12 --> 14:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Four and a half, under.
14:14 --> 14:15 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, under.
14:15 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Three and a half, under.
14:18 --> 14:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe one.
14:19 --> 14:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say he gets DFA to once.
14:21 --> 14:23 [SPEAKER_01]: It was more than that last year.
14:24 --> 14:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I just don't want them to be in a situation where he needs to be of their spot starting.
14:31 --> 14:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Well you asked how many DFA's are we gonna see I thought that implies you're thinking about more than one It could be one and a half so it's like does he get DFA more than once?
14:41 --> 14:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say yes.
14:42 --> 14:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll still say under.
14:43 --> 14:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say once
14:45 --> 14:46 [SPEAKER_00]: You want to go in fielders?
14:46 --> 14:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Where do you want to go next?
14:47 --> 14:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's go in fielders.
14:49 --> 14:50 [SPEAKER_01]: You look at the in fielders.
14:50 --> 14:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Colts the obvious one.
14:51 --> 14:55 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't really need to spend much time talking about Colt Emerson, because we've spent a lot of time talking about him.
14:55 --> 14:59 [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to get a ton of reps, especially when the guys leave for the WBC.
14:59 --> 15:02 [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be expected to play a big part in the Spigleague team this year.
15:03 --> 15:14 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think Spigleague training is going to be, it's going to give him at least someone of a window to make the Big League team out of Spigleague training.
15:14 --> 15:21 [SPEAKER_01]: the cactus like then the Mariners might think long and hard about potentially putting him on the roster to start the season.
15:22 --> 15:40 [SPEAKER_01]: If they don't see that then there's no harm in putting it back in the into coma or double a whatever they decide for the rest of the season like we were talking to Cole that mean he's pointing out I was asking was like do you have any idea where you're gonna be's like no I mean I was only into coma for like a week it didn't like I wasn't like
15:40 --> 15:50 [SPEAKER_01]: nuts put words in a smell that didn't really feel like he's like I was sold on being into coma like I was into coma because they just happened to be playing at that point and they wanted to get me more at bats.
15:51 --> 15:59 [SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't really sure, but I regard those there's going to be plenty of opportunity there for Colt Emerson this spring and he's going to be the leader among all these infielders.
16:00 --> 16:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah and he put up numbers into coma short sample buddy put up numbers.
16:04 --> 16:04 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
16:04 --> 16:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say aside from Colt, who you're right, we probably don't have to spend all the time in the world on because not only have we already done so, but we're going to be doing it all of spring training because Colt, Emerson, as we've tapped, is going to be the biggest story in Mariners spring training this year.
16:18 --> 16:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even think it's really that close.
16:34 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, but he, this winter was playing left field down in, I, was it, the Dominican Winner League?
16:44 --> 16:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
16:44 --> 16:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Might have been Venezuela, or Venezuela, a winner league he was playing left field.
16:48 --> 16:59 [SPEAKER_01]: And from what it sounded like, among some of the prospect evaluators, that this move was going to be somewhat permanent because he didn't have a home on the end field, especially from how the mayor's roster is currently
17:00 --> 17:17 [SPEAKER_01]: organized where you have a second basement, you hope, and co-young, you have a future short stop in Colt, Emerson, and then your third basement, I mean, in some scenario, it could be Michael O'Royle, but he's not graded out plus anywhere on the infield, and that was the selling point of moving into left.
17:17 --> 17:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So I did do fun at interesting that he's listed here as, as an infielder.
17:23 --> 17:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, but they might just keep them at it with both for now and have a mix in both spots because they can't hurt to try to give them some versatility and at least give them the option to play multiple positions.
17:33 --> 17:36 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you're the Mariners and you are factoring a royal into your long-term plans.
17:37 --> 17:44 [SPEAKER_00]: If Randy arose or Anna doesn't resign next year, which I just don't see the fit of between the streakyness.
17:44 --> 17:45 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be over 30.
17:45 --> 17:47 [SPEAKER_00]: You know who his agent is and Scott Boris.
17:47 --> 17:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I just don't really see that one happening unless they come out to some very reasonable deal.
17:52 --> 18:09 [SPEAKER_00]: feels like Michael Royale's got a shot to be the team's left fielder and we'll see if he's equipped for it if he gets up to the big leagues this year and what he proves in some what of a sample size in 26 but Michael Royale, man, I don't think he gets enough love from anybody
18:09 --> 18:13 [SPEAKER_00]: in any outlet and really disfanned base.
18:13 --> 18:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I know that he has to hit to be a prospect, but not only does he just hit at every level, his approach is great.
18:20 --> 18:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he walks, he does not chase.
18:22 --> 18:26 [SPEAKER_00]: For being only 20 years old and putting up the numbers, he has at every level.
18:26 --> 18:28 [SPEAKER_00]: It is pretty impressive.
18:28 --> 18:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Even this past year, right?
18:30 --> 18:34 [SPEAKER_00]: A royal lit the world on fire when he restarted the year in Hayai.
18:34 --> 18:36 [SPEAKER_00]: And the Mariners said, okay, he's not being challenged enough.
18:36 --> 18:37 [SPEAKER_00]: We got to move him up.
18:38 --> 18:40 [SPEAKER_00]: In AA, he had his hills and valleys.
18:40 --> 18:44 [SPEAKER_00]: He had the least amount of production that he's had at any level.
18:44 --> 18:51 [SPEAKER_00]: So far, which is totally expected, given he's 20 years old and the jump to Hayai from Hayai to AA is the biggest one in the minors.
18:52 --> 18:56 [SPEAKER_00]: But all that being said, despite it being quote-unquote,
18:57 --> 19:02 [SPEAKER_00]: 123 WRC Plus for Michael O'Royal as a 20-year-old in AA.
19:02 --> 19:08 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to have to hit for a little bit more power now that he's at this level because that's where the numbers dip.
19:08 --> 19:12 [SPEAKER_00]: He didn't slug a ton, but he just reaches base like no other.
19:12 --> 19:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And when you have that floor to get on base at that clip,
19:16 --> 19:18 [SPEAKER_00]: That gives you a pretty good floor to make it in the league.
19:19 --> 19:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And why he needs more powers because as you get up levels, pictures have the command to challenge you in the strike zone if they know you're not going to punish them for throwing a strike.
19:30 --> 19:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Because what Arroyo could do in Medesto and what he could do in Everett is that he would hit for power.
19:35 --> 19:40 [SPEAKER_01]: But the problem is he played 56 games in Delay and had two home runs.
19:40 --> 19:49 [SPEAKER_01]: which is really tough if you're going to survive, especially in the big leagues without being an elite, elite, elite contact header.
19:50 --> 19:59 [SPEAKER_01]: But he only hit 255 while reaching base 37% of the time, which meant, look, the 12% walk rate here is carrying a lot of his on-base.
20:00 --> 20:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Wood that on-base translate without the power at a higher level with guys with better stuff and more ability to throw strikes.
20:07 --> 20:09 [SPEAKER_01]: But I will say, like you said.
20:09 --> 20:22 [SPEAKER_01]: He's 20 years old, and he's slugged at every level of the minor leagues, so to say that he could put probably slightly below average to average power once he moves up a level and don't think it's some crazy foresight here.
20:22 --> 20:27 [SPEAKER_00]: To be fair, when Julio was in AA at 20 years old, he only hit 7 homers and 46 games.
20:29 --> 20:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean it's a little bit more than a royal and obviously Julio's got more power than a royal But what jumps out to me is the fact that AA is such a step up in pitching and that a royal was not being phased by advanced stuff that he was seeing from opposing arms and still reaching base and walking at the clip that he was
20:47 --> 21:04 [SPEAKER_01]: the ballpark doesn't help either because if you just look at his previous previous stops and the minor leaks in terms of his isolated slugging it's like over 200 over 200 over 200 over 200 isolated slugging by the way is the amount of your batting average that is just no batting average.
21:04 --> 21:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, sorry the amount of
21:06 --> 21:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I forget what it isolated suck.
21:09 --> 21:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's your I think it.
21:11 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm gonna get it right.
21:12 --> 21:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna get it wrong.
21:12 --> 21:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyways I slid it slow just good.
21:14 --> 21:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Hires better lowers worse, but there's over 200 for a while And then once you got the AA was below a hundred so like clearly that's like a drop off.
21:22 --> 21:30 [SPEAKER_01]: That's like a Luis a rise level of isolated power which is not great, but we don't expect that from Michael Royale
21:30 --> 21:34 [SPEAKER_00]: So I looked it up for people, just to make sure I got the definition right.
21:34 --> 21:37 [SPEAKER_00]: It is slugging percentage minus batting average.
21:37 --> 21:40 [SPEAKER_00]: That's how isolated slugging is used.
21:40 --> 21:45 [SPEAKER_00]: It's essentially showing what your raw power is by isolating your extra base hits from batting average.
21:46 --> 21:46 [UNKNOWN]: Right.
21:46 --> 21:49 [SPEAKER_01]: right, how much can you produce outside of just making contact?
21:49 --> 21:51 [SPEAKER_01]: And for the most part, he's been really good at it.
21:52 --> 21:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it'll be get better.
21:54 --> 21:59 [SPEAKER_01]: And this is different from last when we will talk about when we get to the outfielders, because he's on here too.
21:59 --> 22:03 [SPEAKER_01]: But a royal actually still found a way to be productive.
22:03 --> 22:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, a more like controlled way in Arkansas, where his only real drawback is number one position, which has always been a question, and number two is power.
22:13 --> 22:14 [SPEAKER_01]: But everything else is there.
22:14 --> 22:16 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't strike out that much in AA.
22:16 --> 22:20 [SPEAKER_01]: So the contact skills were not, were not deterred at all.
22:21 --> 22:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Roya was going to be a pretty underrated story of spring training too.
22:24 --> 22:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Cold Emerson's going to be the biggest one.
22:26 --> 22:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Couple of pictures everybody will be watching.
22:28 --> 22:32 [SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be big league storylines.
22:33 --> 22:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Michael Arroyo is a pretty important storyline.
22:35 --> 22:45 [SPEAKER_00]: He will probably also start the year back in AA, but I'll be pretty fascinated to see how he responds and is challenged or not challenged against Big League pitching.
22:46 --> 22:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Can I float another name out to you and this is more name value than it is actual production at any level?
22:52 --> 22:55 [SPEAKER_01]: You see, do you recognize one of these other names on there?
22:55 --> 22:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Will Wilson?
22:56 --> 23:00 [SPEAKER_00]: So I was about to say, is that former first rounder Will Wilson out of this?
23:00 --> 23:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it is.
23:01 --> 23:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Yep, NC State, first round pick of the angels 2019, the same draft.
23:06 --> 23:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he was picked five picks before the Mariners pick George Kirby.
23:10 --> 23:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, he's now in Mariners.
23:13 --> 23:15 [SPEAKER_01]: camp as a non-ross for invite.
23:15 --> 23:20 [SPEAKER_01]: It is not gone swimmingly for well-wellsyn, and the major is or the minor is really.
23:21 --> 23:31 [SPEAKER_01]: He made his major debut last year with Cleveland and put up a 48WRC plus in 34 play appearances, or 34 games, sorry 91 play appearances.
23:31 --> 23:43 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you look at his production by level, I mean, he's about a league average hitter and in Cleveland with his AAA, then in, I mean, his past stops.
23:43 --> 23:51 [SPEAKER_01]: He's barely had any stints at any level to minor leagues with an above league average WRC+.
23:51 --> 23:52 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not been great for him.
23:53 --> 23:55 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is more name value than it is.
23:55 --> 24:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, look at the upside of a potential former first round pick from only six years ago.
24:00 --> 24:01 [SPEAKER_01]: But it is an aim.
24:01 --> 24:02 [SPEAKER_01]: So I will note that.
24:02 --> 24:03 [SPEAKER_01]: He does have some pedigree.
24:03 --> 24:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He did sign a signing bonus of $3.5 million.
24:07 --> 24:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, about $3.5 million.
24:09 --> 24:12 [SPEAKER_01]: So this guy was a very highly touted draft pick out of NC State.
24:13 --> 24:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Just hasn't really worked out for him.
24:14 --> 24:16 [SPEAKER_01]: But he is going to be in the mix for for infielders.
24:16 --> 24:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Probably most likely he's going to be on Tacoma for with their infield.
24:21 --> 24:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
24:21 --> 24:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, along with Patrick Wisdom, who I'm sure is just going to be in Tacoma.
24:24 --> 24:28 [SPEAKER_00]: But if somebody gets injured, I'm guessing he'd be on a short list to get called up.
24:29 --> 24:37 [SPEAKER_01]: a staying on the infield, let's go to the catchers now, a lot of catchers, but I really only think one name we can actually talk about, and that's Luke Stephenson.
24:38 --> 24:48 [SPEAKER_00]: The other catchers on the list of people are curious, it's Josh Carrion, it's Connor Sharping, it's Nick Reposo, it's Jackson Reaths, and hey, Brian O'Keefe, why did I back in the M system?
24:48 --> 24:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
24:50 --> 24:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Who is that?
24:51 --> 24:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Shadow, Brian O'Keefe, who is supposed to be hilarious.
24:54 --> 25:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I still feel terrible for him, that he thought he hit that first big league homer of his career in Tampa, and then they called it back and rolled it a double.
25:01 --> 25:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you remember that.
25:03 --> 25:03 [SPEAKER_00]: What year was this?
25:03 --> 25:05 [SPEAKER_00]: 23.
25:07 --> 25:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't remember that.
25:09 --> 25:13 [SPEAKER_00]: I felt bad because he still doesn't have a big league homeer and he almost had one It got taken away.
25:14 --> 25:14 [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.
25:15 --> 25:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he'll get one this year But all eyes are going to be on Luke Stephenson because Cow is going to go to the WBC we expect TNUSA to play at least into the semi finals of not the final Which would leave cow out of Mariners camp for Three weeks roughly
25:33 --> 25:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Give her take.
25:35 --> 25:43 [SPEAKER_01]: That's going to give a lot of opportunity to Luke Stevenson, to get some reps, face some big league arms, catch some of these big league pitchers.
25:44 --> 25:50 [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be him, it's going to be Andrew Kisner and it's going to be, who's the other guy, already forgot.
25:51 --> 25:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, the from the guy they just acquired from the twins from, yeah, from the twins.
25:56 --> 25:57 [SPEAKER_01]: We did a post on him.
25:57 --> 25:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he pitched last year.
25:59 --> 25:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
26:00 --> 26:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I feel terrible.
26:01 --> 26:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll look it up.
26:02 --> 26:03 [SPEAKER_01]: You, but you could talk about you.
26:03 --> 26:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Talk about Luke.
26:03 --> 26:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you?
26:04 --> 26:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was going to say I don't think you need to feel terrible.
26:07 --> 26:11 [SPEAKER_00]: He is going to be the third catcher in the system and be into coma because I'm pretty sure Kizner is going to be the backup.
26:13 --> 26:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say about Stevenson.
26:15 --> 26:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Johnny.
26:15 --> 26:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
26:17 --> 26:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Johnny Pareta.
26:17 --> 26:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
26:18 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_00]: That's who it is.
26:19 --> 26:21 [SPEAKER_00]: This is more of a big picture question, but
26:23 --> 26:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think they're projecting that when Luke Stevenson's Big League ready, it could start to be around the time where they would move, cow off the position, a little more often and start to do the Salvi Buster Posey thing, or are they just not thinking about that?
26:40 --> 26:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it depends how Cal looks this year.
26:42 --> 26:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Cal is great behind the plate this year.
26:43 --> 26:44 [SPEAKER_01]: The no, you can't do that.
26:45 --> 26:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Because Luke Stevenson, by this time next year, will start how the start have the conversation around him about what is his big league role going to be.
26:53 --> 26:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Is he going to be a backup catcher?
26:55 --> 26:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Is he going to be the primary catcher?
26:56 --> 26:58 [SPEAKER_01]: What's the deal?
26:58 --> 27:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, what's different for the Mariners as opposed to Salvi and Buster Posey?
27:03 --> 27:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, you could DH Calabunch, but his fee still has defense value behind the plate.
27:08 --> 27:14 [SPEAKER_01]: DHing him is going to make your team worse as opposed to better, because catching doesn't impact Cal's offense.
27:15 --> 27:18 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a pretty good offense a player when he, when he catches.
27:18 --> 27:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So if his defense were to still great out better than Luke Stevenson's defenses, then it would be a really tough argument to put Stevenson over Cal in terms of catching.
27:31 --> 27:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Then you probably wouldn't.
27:32 --> 27:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously if Cal still playing great defense, you would not do that.
27:35 --> 27:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's the leader of the pitching staff.
27:37 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_00]: But I do more so wonder less than Cal just becoming a full-time de-age because that's not what I'm suggesting by 2028 by any means.
27:46 --> 27:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I just more mean if Steven some proofs he's going to be big league ready could they split a little more time and he's the Look, Cal's better than all a hundred o'clock.
27:56 --> 28:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, but could Luke Stevenson be the Danny Jansson to Cal's all a hundred o'clock?
28:01 --> 28:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe is that what you think is best for Luke's development?
28:04 --> 28:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the question you need to ask yourself.
28:06 --> 28:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Does Luke have more to do on defense?
28:08 --> 28:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Does Luke have, does Luke need more play to appearances?
28:11 --> 28:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Does he benefit by playing in the big leagues with only playing half the time?
28:14 --> 28:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Like this is a 20 year old, or he'll be 21 this year.
28:18 --> 28:19 [SPEAKER_01]: That.
28:20 --> 28:21 [SPEAKER_01]: This is, you need to figure out.
28:21 --> 28:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is probably why we need to see a full year of Luke Stevenson in the minors, because we'll learn a lot this year.
28:26 --> 28:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's why he's in Big League camp to see how he's gonna adjust to all this.
28:29 --> 28:31 [SPEAKER_00]: In Modesto and a short sample last year, he was awesome.
28:32 --> 28:38 [SPEAKER_00]: He was amazing at North Carolina in terms of his offense, but we'll see what a full year in the minors looks like.
28:38 --> 28:43 [SPEAKER_01]: After a few years of Harry Ford, we could tell, okay, his defense is not good enough to take away reps from Cal.
28:44 --> 28:52 [SPEAKER_01]: His bat is good in the minor leagues, is a good enough to force Cal out from behind the plate to DH more or Harry DH is more.
28:53 --> 28:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Like if Luke Stevenson's one of the best hitters in the minors,
28:56 --> 28:59 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners might just have to bring them up and stick them at DH.
29:00 --> 29:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Like that might be a thing they'll solve where they'll stick Cal at DH and put Stevenson behind the plate, depending on how his defense looks.
29:07 --> 29:09 [SPEAKER_01]: But that's a question for at least a year from now.
29:09 --> 29:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Right now, Luke Stevenson's going to be catching the entire year.
29:13 --> 29:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And we will revisit this one year from now.
29:16 --> 29:19 [SPEAKER_01]: If they're having spring training, actually the minor league goes off spring training.
29:19 --> 29:20 [SPEAKER_01]: So Luke will not have to worry about that.
29:20 --> 29:21 [SPEAKER_01]: He'll be playing.
29:22 --> 29:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone else won't be.
29:23 --> 29:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Cal will be.
29:24 --> 29:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, and by he'll be catching all your, you mean he'll be catching all your in the minors, which is in the minor leagues.
29:30 --> 29:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
29:31 --> 29:38 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but most importantly during spring training, he's going to get a chance to catch a lot of these big legers because he's now the shiny new toy behind the play.
29:38 --> 29:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and look, are we getting a little ahead of our skis on this, of course, but there's just something about Luke Stevens and that's a little bit more intriguing about what the timeline could be and what the future of the catching position could be.
29:52 --> 29:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Then Harry Ford, because Harry was a high school catcher, he was always going to take a long time.
29:57 --> 29:59 [SPEAKER_00]: You never really saw the power fully developed.
29:59 --> 30:01 [SPEAKER_00]: There were questions about his defense.
30:01 --> 30:04 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll see what Luke Stephenson looks like defensively as a catcher this year.
30:05 --> 30:11 [SPEAKER_00]: But as a college bat who was already tearing it up in a power conference and tore it up in Modesto last year.
30:12 --> 30:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just curious what he'll look like at the end of the year.
30:15 --> 30:21 [SPEAKER_00]: If he's in double a by the end of 2026 and it has some success there, it is going to be a real conversation next spring training.
30:22 --> 30:24 [SPEAKER_00]: And not a conversation about what happens with Cal.
30:24 --> 30:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Cal is obviously going to be a star of the team.
30:26 --> 30:27 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be playing a ton.
30:27 --> 30:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he's going to keep catching.
30:29 --> 30:32 [SPEAKER_00]: This is, this is not about that, obviously.
30:32 --> 30:34 [SPEAKER_00]: And that should go without being said.
30:34 --> 30:42 [SPEAKER_00]: This is just about if Steven simply plays that well this year, and he starts off with a good spring training, and he follows it up through the next six months.
30:42 --> 30:44 [SPEAKER_00]: how do you work him in in 27?
30:44 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_00]: It's less about Cal Raleigh and more just how could Luke's Stevenson get worked into playing time?
30:48 --> 30:50 [SPEAKER_01]: 100%.
30:50 --> 30:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's wrap this up with the outfielders and there are some intriguing names in here.
30:55 --> 30:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Bulls start with the Mariners' top prospects and there are two, there are two of them.
31:00 --> 31:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Johnny is going to get some reps as a non-Roster invite of Mariners
31:13 --> 31:14 [SPEAKER_00]: You know my answer here.
31:14 --> 31:15 [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's Johnny.
31:15 --> 31:18 [SPEAKER_00]: It's Johnny for Melo because what do I always say about him?
31:19 --> 31:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, his upside is crazy.
31:22 --> 31:25 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got to he's got to stay healthy and he's got to do it for a full year.
31:26 --> 31:37 [SPEAKER_00]: But Wallozara Montez has unprecedented minor league power and hit about as many home runs as anybody in the miners last year across baseball.
31:38 --> 31:41 [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't do what Johnny does across the rest of the board in terms of tools.
31:42 --> 31:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Johnny can run, Johnny can field, Johnny has a chance to play center field long term.
31:47 --> 31:53 [SPEAKER_00]: So, to see Johnny far mellow healthy in campus here, really intrigued.
31:53 --> 31:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Because yes, he will probably start back and ever it.
31:56 --> 32:10 [SPEAKER_00]: is there a world, he tears it up for a month or two, he goes up to Arkansas, and by the end of the year in Arkansas, he's had a magnificent year, and now you're talking about him in cults position, entering 2027 camp?
32:11 --> 32:13 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he's that good.
32:13 --> 32:15 [SPEAKER_00]: He can be, again, I'll keep saying it.
32:15 --> 32:16 [SPEAKER_00]: Everything goes right.
32:16 --> 32:23 [SPEAKER_00]: He can be somewhere from a 25, 25, to a 30, 30 guy in the big leagues, because he has power, speed, and defense.
32:25 --> 32:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's going to be the center fielder when Julio goes to the WBC.
32:30 --> 32:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I would think, at least he will mix in its center field when Julio leaves for the WBC.
32:37 --> 32:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I, that's really well highlighted on Johnny.
32:39 --> 32:41 [SPEAKER_01]: So let me talk about what LAS people are going to see with LAS.
32:43 --> 32:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Mariners I'm sure there are some Mariners fans out there who watch Arkansas and Everid games and get to see lies and they get to see him hit When terms of in person now that lies is going to be in big league camp People are going to get to see him again play in the field.
32:57 --> 33:09 [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to get to see some of his at bats I mean, you know if he hits Some of his magnificent home runs in spring training That's what people are going to be talking about.
33:09 --> 33:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
33:10 --> 33:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, last was in Big League camp for a little bit last year, but I'll probably be there longer in this camp.
33:16 --> 33:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Better, better chance to make an impression this year than he did last year.
33:19 --> 33:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can remember last year's roster, but I think that's big for both of them, like because they play positions with guys that will be in the WBC.
33:30 --> 33:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I would imagine last would be in the left for if he's playing a Big League game.
33:35 --> 33:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I think what do you play and write?
33:38 --> 33:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's done both.
33:39 --> 33:43 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to say he was in right field for some big league spring training games last year when they brought him up.
33:43 --> 33:46 [SPEAKER_00]: So, could be either, or maybe with a DHM.
33:48 --> 33:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably all the above.
33:49 --> 33:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to say he played more right than left field in the miners.
33:53 --> 34:00 [SPEAKER_00]: You can all look it up, but yeah, I think the fact that Laz is going to get another shot in Big League spring training this year is great.
34:00 --> 34:08 [SPEAKER_00]: He is so fun for fans to watch and he's got a chance to like you said, really turn some heads in terms of proving to people where he's at.
34:09 --> 34:16 [SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to look, the thing about spring training is you just can't learn a whole lot about a whole bunch of different guys.
34:17 --> 34:28 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's hard to take numbers into account to a high extent in spring training, but you can take it back into account and come to ability and how they're adjusting the sum of the pitching that's in Big League camp.
34:29 --> 34:35 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think for Laz, while it's not fair to look at a spring training strikeout rate because the sample's gonna be too small.
34:36 --> 34:39 [SPEAKER_00]: How does he look and how is he fairing against
34:39 --> 35:09 [SPEAKER_00]: higher end arms because we know the key for him this year when he goes back to the miners it is he has to cut down the strikeouts even if the defense only stays okay even if he has you know even if he's not gonna steal bases which I don't think anybody thinks he will he has to cut down on the strikeouts if he does that his future gets incredibly exciting because now you're talking about a
35:09 --> 35:12 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a less Kyle Schwabber and it's more Joey Gallo.
35:13 --> 35:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Couple other intriguing names in this outfield group before you wrap it up.
35:18 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So Spencer Packard and Jared Suntrummer, two names to know.
35:22 --> 35:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Suntrummer finished last year in AA.
35:27 --> 35:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Spencer Packard spent the entire last season in AAA.
35:31 --> 35:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd say Packard if he's going to get an opportunity is more likely.
35:35 --> 35:41 [SPEAKER_01]: in the big leagues this year, because he just had a 11WRC plus into coma over an entire season.
35:42 --> 35:48 [SPEAKER_01]: This past year, Sunstrom was about a league average hitter in Arkansas this past year.
35:48 --> 35:50 [SPEAKER_01]: That's where the offense of Profiles line up.
35:50 --> 35:56 [SPEAKER_01]: There's one more in a former top prospect in Brennan Davis, who the Mariners signed to a minor league deal this off season.
35:56 --> 35:59 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they sent him to a minor league deal over trading for him.
36:00 --> 36:03 [SPEAKER_01]: He used to be ranked really high on prospect list.
36:03 --> 36:05 [SPEAKER_01]: He was a top 10 prospect.
36:05 --> 36:25 [SPEAKER_01]: And the cup system I want to say, but it not it has not been as it has not been as good for him, so that's why he's now in the Mariners organization, just trying to look up what he's done recently, he has no, he's not even made the big leagues yet, he's been all he's made it as high as AAA.
36:25 --> 36:31 [SPEAKER_01]: last year in the minor leagues for the Yankees, which is where he's spent this time last year.
36:31 --> 36:33 [SPEAKER_01]: It'll 154 WRC+.
36:33 --> 36:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Slugged over 600 across AA and AAA.
36:36 --> 36:38 [SPEAKER_01]: 26 years old.
36:39 --> 36:46 [SPEAKER_01]: probably worthy of a flyer, especially for a guy who was rated as high as he was, so for a minor league for age and he's actually been pretty good.
36:47 --> 36:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll be honest.
36:48 --> 36:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and again, he's clearly got upside because he was ranked not just top 10 in the club system.
36:53 --> 36:56 [SPEAKER_00]: In some outlets, he was top 10 in baseball.
36:56 --> 36:57 [SPEAKER_00]: He was that good.
36:57 --> 36:59 [SPEAKER_00]: So,
36:59 --> 37:03 [SPEAKER_00]: No reason not to take a lottery ticket on somebody like that, just like, well, Wilson, and just see what you might get.
37:04 --> 37:18 [SPEAKER_01]: And since he left the Cubs organization, it's been a really different story form, because when he was with the Cubs, I don't know the full picture here, because I'm looking at his fan graphs, but in some of his strengths that he made it to AAA in the Cubs system, it was, I mean, it was a disaster.
37:18 --> 37:20 [SPEAKER_01]: He had a 22 AAA for the Cubs.
37:21 --> 37:27 [SPEAKER_01]: He had a 71 WRC+, 23 AAA for the Cubs, yet a 43 WRC+.
37:27 --> 37:51 [SPEAKER_01]: twenty twenty four AAA for the Cubs you only had a one ten WRC plus but then this past year I got up to one twenty nine with a one fifty four overall for the season maybe he's a late blimmer maybe he wasn't healthy in those previous stops but the last year in the Yankees minor league or goes very good for him yeah i hope it works out for him because again he was once upon not even once upon a time just a couple years ago
37:51 --> 37:52 [SPEAKER_00]: really interesting prospect.
37:53 --> 37:56 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's your list of guys of non-Roster invites that'll be in Big League Camp.
37:56 --> 38:03 [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously, as you'd expect, aside from filming Celestine, all of the top 10 prospects are gonna be in Big League Camp.
38:03 --> 38:13 [SPEAKER_00]: So for anybody going down to spring training, or anybody that's just gonna be watching the games on TV, you're gonna get a big look at the future of the Mariners for a lot of February and March.
38:13 --> 38:14 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's pretty exciting.
38:15 --> 38:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Before we wrap it up, I will ask, is there one guy above the rest
38:21 --> 38:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Most most intrigued to see to watch play not talk to We can do both All right, well do watch play like watch them play first I'm taking cold out the board because that's kind of unfair I will say I'm looking forward to seeing Luke Stephenson.
38:41 --> 38:44 [SPEAKER_00]: I know you're gonna say him You like him already a lot.
38:44 --> 38:45 [SPEAKER_00]: I know
38:47 --> 38:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Great I'm glad I'm predictable.
38:49 --> 38:49 [SPEAKER_00]: What about you?
38:49 --> 39:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying you're wrong for every good reason you should be interested to watch And as should a lot of people everybody He's a new shiny toy I'm just saying like I can tell for good reason you're you're pretty intrigued by him and you should be What about you were you looking at?
39:05 --> 39:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm no less predictable.
39:06 --> 39:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say I'm most excited to see a healthy Johnny Farmello in camp and see what Johnny Farmello does now that he's back with, yeah, knees feeling good, that he's firing on all cylinders, see what this year looks like for him.
39:19 --> 39:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Term of guys, in terms of guys that I'm looking forward to talking to, I mean, there is one clear runaway favorite.
39:26 --> 39:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Mike Emerals.
39:28 --> 39:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
39:30 --> 39:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, he's a live wire man.
39:33 --> 39:33 [SPEAKER_00]: He's great.
39:35 --> 39:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the funniest dudes, if for all of you OG listeners you'll remember when we had him on, he is
39:42 --> 39:44 [SPEAKER_01]: he can talk his way out of pretty much anything.
39:44 --> 39:45 [SPEAKER_00]: He's just, he's a talker.
39:46 --> 39:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And I really like that about him.
39:47 --> 39:55 [SPEAKER_00]: And he said like he really enjoys just having conversations with people and like, just, again, getting into it with people.
39:55 --> 40:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you remember all the stories, again, if you've been listening for the last couple years that him and Logan Evans would get at each other throughout double-a games on the regular, they'd be drawing back and forth about what's total utter nonsense,
40:08 --> 40:11 [SPEAKER_00]: most of the time because both of them just love to talk.
40:11 --> 40:13 [SPEAKER_00]: That's why those two are friends and they'll get at each other about it.
40:14 --> 40:16 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, Mikey Morales is a good one.
40:17 --> 40:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd actually be interested to talk to Luke Stevenson as interested as I am to see him play.
40:21 --> 40:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Catchers are usually pretty interesting characters.
40:23 --> 40:34 [SPEAKER_00]: So between that and him seemingly being a pretty good talker already and a good personality, I'd be interested to talk to him.
40:34 --> 40:36 [SPEAKER_00]: And you left out one reason.
40:38 --> 40:40 [SPEAKER_00]: interested to talk to Stevenson?
40:40 --> 40:42 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, well, yeah, I mean, we got to talk PB&Js.
40:43 --> 40:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what I was waiting for.
40:45 --> 40:54 [SPEAKER_00]: If you remember the story at North Carolina, they told the story during the ACC tournament that Luke Stevenson eats 1500 PB&Js a year.
40:54 --> 40:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, we did find out that was way exaggerated, but
40:59 --> 41:02 [SPEAKER_00]: the fact he's a big pv and j guy and I'm the biggest pv and j guy.
41:03 --> 41:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we have to compare notes.
41:04 --> 41:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I said the TJ at some point we got to do a segment where we just stand side by side make them make pv and j's compare notes and see it as a better.
41:14 --> 41:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully we could do that at spring training.
41:16 --> 41:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd be great content for for the vlog.
41:18 --> 41:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Great for social.
41:19 --> 41:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Great.
41:20 --> 41:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Simon right up.
41:21 --> 41:28 [SPEAKER_01]: It'd be the best piece of content I've ever looked forward to doing.
41:30 --> 41:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's a good one.
41:31 --> 41:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm really, I'm guessing Luke doesn't do this.
41:34 --> 41:35 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll find out.
41:35 --> 41:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I really fill mine up.
41:37 --> 41:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Like the amount of stuff I put on my PV and J's is insane work.
41:41 --> 41:44 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a ton of peanut butter and it's pretty good amount of jelly too.
41:45 --> 41:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Luke's in the videos look pretty standard.
41:47 --> 41:51 [SPEAKER_00]: So if we're doing an eating competition, I gotta make mine more normal.
41:54 --> 41:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's up to you.
41:55 --> 41:58 [SPEAKER_01]: There's probably got to be a minimum amount of peanut butter you can put on there, though.
41:58 --> 41:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
41:58 --> 42:01 [SPEAKER_01]: So you can't just like, skimp eggs, and you're just eating bread.
42:01 --> 42:01 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
42:02 --> 42:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying if anything, it'll be more odd for me to go less, because I usually fill them up.
42:08 --> 42:09 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what he says.
42:09 --> 42:16 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if he wants to eat a pubing as fast as he possibly can, or whether he's he's good, just eating it at normal speed.
42:16 --> 42:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, maybe we can do that on a day is not playing.
42:19 --> 42:20 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, probably be good.
42:20 --> 42:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and maybe after after workout, but yeah, okay.
42:25 --> 42:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I am looking forward to seeing a bunch of these guys in spring training as should you be because there's a bunch of good prospects in the system.
42:30 --> 42:33 [SPEAKER_00]: And we are just a couple weeks away from getting to see these guys in action.
42:33 --> 42:34 [SPEAKER_00]: So get excited.
42:35 --> 42:37 [SPEAKER_00]: TJ and I are only about two and a half weeks from going to spring training.
42:38 --> 42:40 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, we'll get down there.
42:40 --> 42:42 [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna be, yeah, we'll be on the scene.
42:43 --> 42:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, obviously, be telling you guys what we see and a lot of it'll be about these guys.
42:46 --> 42:47 [SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure.
42:47 --> 42:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Two weeks from when this comes out.
42:49 --> 42:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so two weeks on the dot right there.
42:52 --> 43:00 [SPEAKER_00]: One more reminder, Wednesday, February 11th, we've got Mariners Trivianite that we are hosting, Queen Anne Beer Hall, February 11th, 7pm.
43:00 --> 43:01 [SPEAKER_00]: There's gonna be a bunch of prizes.
43:01 --> 43:05 [SPEAKER_00]: There's gonna be food and drinks with a grand prize of opening day tickets.
43:06 --> 43:07 [SPEAKER_00]: to the final winner.
43:07 --> 43:09 [SPEAKER_00]: So come on out, it's gonna be a blast.
43:09 --> 43:11 [SPEAKER_00]: We'd love to see you there, and we can't wait to see you there.
43:12 --> 43:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that's just about wraps up this edition of the Marine Lair podcast.
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