Lyle and TJ discuss the high praise for Ryan Sloan and Kade Anderson out of Mariners Spring Training (15:00). They then react to a story from the 2025 Postseason that Mariners fans probably won't want to hear (44:00).
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00:10 --> 00:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to episode number 365 of the Marine Lair podcast through a week of spring training.
00:15 --> 00:20 [SPEAKER_02]: There is one clear storyline, Ryan Sloan and Kate Anderson are lightening up.
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01:17 --> 01:25 [SPEAKER_02]: and we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just face ball podcast network recording here on Sunday evening February 15th.
01:26 --> 01:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm officially going to be wearing more padding going down to Mariners Spring Training one week from now.
01:32 --> 01:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Lone I will be there.
01:33 --> 01:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Just in case I find myself in front of a Ryan Sloan fastball.
01:38 --> 01:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Whoo!
01:39 --> 01:45 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean are you going to just wear umpires gear walking
01:47 --> 01:49 [SPEAKER_00]: That is one strategy, isn't it?
01:49 --> 01:51 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I don't have to avoid Ryan Sloan fastballs.
01:51 --> 01:56 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, all I have to do to avoid Ryan Sloan fastballs and avoid injury is just sit behind you.
01:56 --> 01:58 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I don't have to worry about Sloan.
01:59 --> 02:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I just have to worry about you.
02:00 --> 02:02 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're built like a tower granite.
02:02 --> 02:04 [SPEAKER_02]: You're what, six, three,
02:04 --> 02:09 [SPEAKER_02]: What, probably like a lean 205, 190, maybe something somewhere in between there.
02:09 --> 02:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I know you take really good care of your body.
02:13 --> 02:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the ball is going to deflect right off of you.
02:14 --> 02:15 [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't have to worry about anything.
02:15 --> 02:18 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't need to wear her an umpires mask.
02:18 --> 02:19 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have to do any of that.
02:20 --> 02:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, let's go back.
02:21 --> 02:22 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's great content.
02:22 --> 02:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's let's just go with that.
02:23 --> 02:24 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
02:24 --> 02:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Random hardcaster gets drilled by 100 mile an hour fastball and the Mariners backfields.
02:29 --> 02:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Great.
02:30 --> 02:31 [SPEAKER_00]: That sounds awesome.
02:31 --> 02:33 [SPEAKER_00]: What a great way to start off my spring training.
02:33 --> 02:35 [SPEAKER_00]: You'll be sitting pretty and probably just laughing.
02:36 --> 02:38 [SPEAKER_00]: But me, I mean, I'll be on my way to the emergency room.
02:40 --> 02:44 [SPEAKER_02]: That is like $150 or $150 views right there.
02:45 --> 02:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Just think about it.
02:46 --> 02:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe more.
02:48 --> 02:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Great, you've always been one to do it for the content.
02:51 --> 02:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Great, so we'll take the money we get from the TikTok video and it'll pay for my bill of the hospital.
02:58 --> 03:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
03:00 --> 03:03 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say, you gave me some pretty generous measurements there.
03:03 --> 03:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say I'm six three with shoes on, because usually when I wear shoes a little out of a couple inches, I think, I mean, without shoes I'm six one.
03:12 --> 03:13 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think, I'm,
03:14 --> 03:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm about 190.
03:15 --> 03:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know about 205.
03:17 --> 03:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Not quite.
03:18 --> 03:19 [SPEAKER_02]: But I was gasing up.
03:19 --> 03:26 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're just telling me, we're recording some balker and banner stuff that Zach Vene of the Rockies gained 40 pounds this off season.
03:27 --> 03:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
03:27 --> 03:34 [SPEAKER_02]: The off season for you dog wouldn't put a past you to just get up into a little little little more chiseled playing weight.
03:34 --> 03:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Although as you said,
03:36 --> 03:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Putting on 40 pounds in an offseason doesn't usually sound like the world's greatest thing.
03:41 --> 03:41 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
03:42 --> 03:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Could you imagine is there a single mariner on this team where you would say them gaining 40 pounds is a good thing?
03:50 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, maybe if Ryan Bliss grew like six inches and then also it's just working out of time, sure.
03:59 --> 04:01 [SPEAKER_00]: but you have probably probably not.
04:01 --> 04:04 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what, Zach being in his pictures did not look that bad.
04:05 --> 04:08 [SPEAKER_00]: It looked like it was all positive way, and that's the report.
04:08 --> 04:11 [SPEAKER_00]: But let's see how it plays out during the year.
04:11 --> 04:14 [SPEAKER_02]: I think maybe Bryce Miller, maybe?
04:14 --> 04:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Like he's skinny as a rail right now.
04:17 --> 04:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's six, four.
04:19 --> 04:22 [SPEAKER_02]: So like if you're six, four, how much does Bryce weigh right now?
04:23 --> 04:26 [SPEAKER_00]: regardless while you look at a 40 pounds is a lot.
04:26 --> 04:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if there's a mariner where if you heard that report, you'd be exactly fired up about it.
04:30 --> 04:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, Kate Anderson put on about 15 pounds away.
04:33 --> 04:38 [SPEAKER_00]: They said, which is a very good thing, but 40, 40 is a hefty number.
04:38 --> 04:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I think Bryce is taller than what they're listening to him as, like what I've seen this dude walk around.
04:42 --> 04:44 [SPEAKER_02]: He's pretty dang tall.
04:44 --> 04:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Baseball reference has him at six to 200.
04:48 --> 04:52 [SPEAKER_02]: So if price were to gain 40 pounds, I mean, that would honestly make me a little uncomfortable.
04:52 --> 04:55 [SPEAKER_02]: I could not float six to 240.
04:55 --> 05:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I could float six four to 40 because that's, I mean, what is that?
05:00 --> 05:02 [SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of like, Garrett Cole, right?
05:02 --> 05:06 [SPEAKER_02]: And we'll do our Garrett Cole comps here in a second with another manner.
05:06 --> 05:07 [SPEAKER_02]: The Mariners Prospector is talking about.
05:08 --> 05:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Garrett Cole is six four to 20.
05:10 --> 05:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like you could do six four to 40.
05:12 --> 05:14 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that would work.
05:15 --> 05:24 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, if we're just gonna turn this into national sports podcast headlines and we're talking about Zach Veean putting on 40 pounds and tying it back to the Mariners.
05:25 --> 05:32 [SPEAKER_00]: If we're just gonna hit a couple national sports podcast headlines before we get into Mariners Spring training, let me throw this out there to tie it all in.
05:33 --> 05:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Do we think any Mariners are sending DMs and group chats with a burner account, trash it on all their teammates?
05:41 --> 05:50 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad you brought that up to answer your question, no, to I was thinking today.
05:50 --> 05:58 [SPEAKER_02]: So like we put out a lot of social media content, loud and I will usually split it up or loud as one post, I'll do one post every day.
06:00 --> 06:02 [SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking today of floating it out there.
06:03 --> 06:06 [SPEAKER_02]: What mariner would be most likely to have a burner account?
06:06 --> 06:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I didn't end up deciding on that subject, but since we're talking about it, I have to now.
06:10 --> 06:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, so Lyle, which mariner's most likely to have a burner account.
06:18 --> 06:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, most likely?
06:19 --> 06:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who wants to chirp at fans the most.
06:25 --> 06:26 [SPEAKER_02]: I have an answer.
06:27 --> 06:30 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, who?
06:32 --> 06:32 [SPEAKER_00]: You think?
06:33 --> 06:33 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
06:33 --> 06:34 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
06:34 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel like he usually chirps at fans.
06:36 --> 06:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know.
06:38 --> 06:44 [SPEAKER_02]: There's not a perfect comparison because there are no, I don't think there are Kevin Durance and Major League Baseball.
06:44 --> 06:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
06:45 --> 06:45 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think the same.
06:46 --> 06:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Forget the mariner's here for a second.
06:47 --> 06:52 [SPEAKER_00]: If there was anybody in Major League Baseball that is doing what Kevin Durance is currently doing.
06:53 --> 07:00 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I would sign all the way up for it in terms of all these ridiculous things, just absolutely batching on their TV.
07:00 --> 07:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't like, I don't endorse that stuff, but the drama in the NBA is so insane.
07:08 --> 07:13 [SPEAKER_00]: And the things that Kevin Durant gets himself into every year is just.
07:13 --> 07:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Obsert that zoom in of his face during the all-star game introductions on Sunday where he had this look on his face like wow I've really just got out and by the entire world for saying just heinous things about my teammates on a burner account All I can do is look at the camera and basically say I mess up
07:34 --> 07:36 [SPEAKER_00]: like that, like his face gave it all away.
07:36 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_02]: What's hilarious is that was more memorable than anything that happened in the first half or anything that happened over all Star Weekend to the NBA.
07:43 --> 07:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Spinzone, it was good.
07:46 --> 07:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, this is what the NBA does best.
07:49 --> 07:53 [SPEAKER_02]: It will manufacture drama for the craziest shit.
07:53 --> 07:56 [SPEAKER_02]: While the product on the floor, people could care less about.
07:56 --> 08:02 [SPEAKER_02]: And the product they put out through this week and for all Star Weekend, I saw the winning dunk of the dunk contest.
08:02 --> 08:12 [SPEAKER_02]: There was fucking awful, but thank goodness, they had the KD Burner phone, the Burner account and their back pocket to throw out to air.
08:12 --> 08:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me say it again, could you imagine something like that happening in baseball?
08:15 --> 08:19 [SPEAKER_00]: This new KD is on his phone, like on Twitter during warm-ups.
08:20 --> 08:22 [SPEAKER_02]: He was doing it during introductions too.
08:22 --> 08:25 [SPEAKER_02]: They had the camera panning around and he is like head down on his phone.
08:27 --> 08:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there's, I mean, you could try to throw out Mariners' cops all you want.
08:30 --> 08:34 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think there is one because look, I love Kevin Durant.
08:34 --> 08:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I have since he was a Sonic, but God is he just insane when it comes to his online presence.
08:40 --> 08:42 [SPEAKER_00]: There's nobody in baseball that has that.
08:43 --> 08:46 [SPEAKER_02]: But for like Mariners, so here's like the personality traits I'm looking for.
08:46 --> 08:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking for someone who feels like they might have more to say on a keyboard than they would to say in person.
08:52 --> 08:54 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is no slide at George Kirby.
08:54 --> 08:58 [SPEAKER_02]: This is just from what we have picked up and what most of the media have picked up.
08:59 --> 09:01 [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't say much, really.
09:01 --> 09:04 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not, I wouldn't say he has an outgoing personality.
09:04 --> 09:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I think you would agree with that.
09:06 --> 09:11 [SPEAKER_02]: So we're looking for someone who might want to spin their thoughts more
09:13 --> 09:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Online written out.
09:15 --> 09:17 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it might be I think it might be George Kirby.
09:17 --> 09:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Bryce Miller for example Dude loves to talk never he doesn't need a burner count.
09:21 --> 09:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll just say it.
09:22 --> 09:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's it'll just go out of his mouth Logan Gilbert.
09:26 --> 09:34 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's just really quiet Brian will I think he's you know, I think he's kind of the same way and then the position players like yeah I mean, who's pretty intense?
09:34 --> 09:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he'd take it to Twitter, but he's pretty intense.
09:37 --> 09:41 [SPEAKER_02]: He is, but he doesn't like Still doesn't have a ton to say
09:42 --> 09:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
09:43 --> 09:44 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
09:44 --> 09:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like if we're just picking among the group, we have available to us on the Mariners roster, I would say Kirby.
09:51 --> 09:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I've got to throw that out.
09:54 --> 09:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got a better one and it's not for the reasons you think.
09:56 --> 10:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I would say it's Julio, and here's why, because Julio gets so much ridiculous, unwarranted hate across, will sometimes from his own fanbase, but oftentimes nationally too, for people calling him like a fraud and overrated, and all these ridiculous things that are so untrue, and if I were Julio, and you're obviously knocking as like address all these Twitter trolls in public,
10:22 --> 10:27 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe we get to the point where he wanted to create another account and clap back at these people because they're wrong.
10:28 --> 10:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Look, Katie's a psycho path with what he does online.
10:31 --> 10:35 [SPEAKER_00]: But he is one of the greatest players to ever play the game.
10:35 --> 10:38 [SPEAKER_00]: And he wants to clap back at people that try to take that away from him.
10:38 --> 10:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, I'm going to totally cross Kirby off this list because the answer here is Julio Rodriguez, because again,
10:44 --> 11:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody gets the unwarranted hate on this team online that he does and it's so ridiculous that he does But if he were him, maybe that's his outlet, maybe that would be his outlet to turn back at people It's a fair point and that's probably the best comparison you can do to Katie on this team period because Katie is a Hall of Famer He's like the greatest score of the NBA's ever seen.
11:06 --> 11:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if Google is going to ever enter the goat conversation But he's on a Hall of Fame path right now
11:12 --> 11:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I've got another reason to add to this whole thing.
11:15 --> 11:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Another reason, another little foil here, okay.
11:20 --> 11:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Those two hang out sometimes, who the only Katie?
11:23 --> 11:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't you forget that.
11:25 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Don't you think Katie, maybe at some point during any of their hangout sessions, it's like, hey, dude, you know what, really, really,
11:32 --> 11:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, gets my gears going and really can often be pretty therapeutic.
11:37 --> 11:41 [SPEAKER_00]: When I get to clap back at people on my burner account here, see, check this out.
11:41 --> 11:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not even gonna say the name of Katie's ridiculous burner account on this podcast.
11:47 --> 11:48 [SPEAKER_00]: You can go look it up if you want to see it.
11:48 --> 11:49 [SPEAKER_00]: It's all over the internet.
11:50 --> 11:54 [SPEAKER_00]: But it's get off my, and then you can look up the rest.
11:54 --> 11:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Katie's Bernie account that he's been on everywhere is called get off my, and then you can look at the rest online.
11:59 --> 12:02 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you think Katie hasn't mentioned that to Julio at some point.
12:02 --> 12:03 [SPEAKER_00]: You never know.
12:03 --> 12:09 [SPEAKER_00]: That's so great.
12:09 --> 12:10 [SPEAKER_00]: That's my answer.
12:11 --> 12:11 [SPEAKER_00]: That's my answer.
12:11 --> 12:16 [SPEAKER_00]: And again, I'm not saying that Julio's personality is like Katie.
12:17 --> 12:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it is.
12:18 --> 12:19 [SPEAKER_00]: But...
12:19 --> 12:24 [SPEAKER_00]: What happens when you are somebody that is a superstar in a celebrity of that level?
12:25 --> 12:27 [SPEAKER_00]: You get these ridiculous people online in your comments.
12:28 --> 12:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Katie takes it upon himself to spend hours a day on Twitter, clapping back at people with like 12 followers.
12:35 --> 12:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Julio would quite do that, but if you have to pick somebody on the team, maybe.
12:41 --> 12:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Then our strategy for this probably is who are the guys who receive the most hate online from the mayor's fan base.
12:48 --> 12:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Therefore, would need a burner account to clap back.
12:52 --> 12:57 [SPEAKER_02]: So, I would agree, whoio number one, by far, not even close, right?
12:57 --> 12:59 [SPEAKER_02]: People still in our comments, blow me, it blows me away.
13:00 --> 13:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:01 --> 13:06 [SPEAKER_02]: I do feel a Kirby's got a solid case in number two, because I don't know who else could possibly be.
13:06 --> 13:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, maybe nobody else, but like, but I mean, I mean, I mean, I only think of this for, uh, a, like, a, well, I guess, who is not American born players, but, but Randy, like, Randy, Randy, not a huge English speaker, and most of the Mariners fan base speaks English, so I just don't even know if there would be that.
13:28 --> 13:29 [SPEAKER_02]: overlap with that.
13:30 --> 13:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.
13:31 --> 13:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's it's funny.
13:32 --> 13:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Randy has a Twitter, but the only things that ever get tweeted out is I think by somebody who added some videos for him or any time, the Mariners went a series.
13:39 --> 13:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Those highlights get posted of Randy in a bunch of his teammates after like series wins, but it's not him, right?
13:45 --> 13:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably not.
13:46 --> 13:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I mean, I mean, the account is Randy arose a random with a blue check mark, but I don't know if it's him that's logged on.
13:53 --> 13:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like Kirby's up there.
13:55 --> 13:56 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, that's that was my top.
13:56 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_02]: But Julio, you're right, is has to be by far number one.
13:59 --> 14:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe Kirby would be after that.
14:01 --> 14:06 [SPEAKER_00]: But you're right, like you do have to have a little bit of fire in your personality.
14:06 --> 14:11 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying all these players don't have fire because they do, but you only see some guys
14:11 --> 14:18 [SPEAKER_00]: like ex-turnily show it and Logan Gilbert shows it, but it's really only when he is excited after punching somebody out on the mound.
14:18 --> 14:24 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not he doesn't ever really do any chirping so to speak, you know, people call George Kirby Furious George.
14:24 --> 14:26 [SPEAKER_00]: Like there is anger built up there when he's on the mound.
14:26 --> 14:30 [SPEAKER_00]: So most of the other guys on the team don't have something like that.
14:30 --> 14:35 [SPEAKER_00]: So sure if by default you have to pick somebody after Julio, maybe it be him, but
14:35 --> 14:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, other than that, like, like, I mean, as too cold young guys, I can't really imagine cold young having anything that even resembles that, not in his current form.
14:47 --> 14:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And I can't imagine Colt Emerson having that, no.
14:51 --> 14:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Not cow, not, I mean, look, Naylor's a fiery guy, maybe he'd rank third after Kirby, but I don't know if he'd ever do it with fans.
14:58 --> 15:00 [SPEAKER_00]: It's more just he gets fired up during the games.
15:01 --> 15:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he probably isn't even fine that interesting.
15:04 --> 15:06 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no.
15:07 --> 15:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Naylor probably thinks social media is boring.
15:10 --> 15:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he probably does.
15:11 --> 15:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you think Ryan Sloan is a burner account?
15:15 --> 15:16 [SPEAKER_02]: I doubt it.
15:16 --> 15:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Do we think Kate Anderson is a burner account?
15:18 --> 15:20 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll tell you for Kate's sake.
15:20 --> 15:21 [SPEAKER_02]: He pitched in the SEC.
15:22 --> 15:24 [SPEAKER_02]: So some rabid fans out there.
15:26 --> 15:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I can't imagine it with LSU fans getting on him.
15:28 --> 15:30 [SPEAKER_00]: That dude did nothing but deal for the Tigers.
15:31 --> 15:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's a fair point, but if you're an Alabama fan, if you're an Auburn fan, yeah, maybe there's people.
15:38 --> 15:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
15:38 --> 15:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
15:39 --> 15:44 [SPEAKER_00]: However, I'm going to, I'm going to definitively say here on the Marine Layer Podcasts, we stamp it.
15:45 --> 15:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Ryan's loading canators and do not have burner accounts.
15:48 --> 15:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
15:48 --> 15:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Great.
15:49 --> 15:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about their on-field play.
15:51 --> 15:52 [SPEAKER_02]: That was a fun first 15 minutes.
15:52 --> 15:53 [SPEAKER_02]: I enjoyed that.
15:53 --> 15:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you, Katie.
15:55 --> 15:58 [SPEAKER_02]: But the main storyline come out of Mariners camp this week.
15:59 --> 16:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Really the only thing from what I could tell besides, oh, so here are the storylines I've found.
16:04 --> 16:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Hatt's look great.
16:06 --> 16:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Josh Nailer has a deep jersey collection.
16:10 --> 16:12 [SPEAKER_02]: He wore another different one today.
16:12 --> 16:14 [SPEAKER_02]: He wore a super jersey today.
16:16 --> 16:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And then Ryan Sloan and Kate Anderson look unbelievable.
16:19 --> 16:21 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
16:22 --> 16:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, look, I'll preface this with the same way I preface both the videos on social media over the weekend.
16:28 --> 16:32 [SPEAKER_00]: These are not games, they're live at bats, it's the middle of February.
16:32 --> 16:35 [SPEAKER_00]: We understand it's early, but...
16:36 --> 16:43 [SPEAKER_00]: You can't help but see what they're putting out they're early on in spring training and start dreaming about their potential.
16:44 --> 16:47 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just impossible not to, especially with Sloan.
16:48 --> 16:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Kate Anderson in those videos, the division Daniel Cramer and a bunch of the beat writers were posting the other day.
16:54 --> 16:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Kate looked good.
16:54 --> 17:00 [SPEAKER_00]: What we saw come out of camp on Sunday with Ryan Sloan is jaw-dropping.
17:01 --> 17:04 [SPEAKER_02]: All he has to do is just throw enough innings, and he's going to be out there.
17:04 --> 17:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the main takeaway from both of the people who are there is that these guys are going to spend that much time in the high miners.
17:12 --> 17:21 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be building up innings, and once they're innings are built up and they're stretched out enough, they're going to be big legers, boring disaster, really.
17:21 --> 17:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Ryan Sloan was featuring pitches up to 99 miles an hour of sweepers of 20 inches of break.
17:28 --> 17:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Just an unbelievable set of pitches with a with a two-seamer, too.
17:33 --> 17:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just stop there for a second because there's things to dissect.
17:36 --> 17:41 [SPEAKER_00]: With all three of those pitches, he's throwing 99 miles an hour on February the 15th.
17:41 --> 17:43 [SPEAKER_00]: He's barely 20 years old.
17:44 --> 17:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Holy hell!
17:46 --> 17:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's three, there's three phases to this, three phases.
17:50 --> 17:54 [SPEAKER_00]: So just to start with the foreseamer, wow, I mean, we knew we could throw hard.
17:55 --> 18:00 [SPEAKER_00]: But 99 miles an hour as he's ramping up in February, that, I mean, that's crazy.
18:01 --> 18:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
18:01 --> 18:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Number two is if you get to his two-seamer,
18:04 --> 18:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Daniel Kramer was talking about this today, both in his article, which he should go read, and he was tweeting out about it, that Trent Blank, one of the Mariners' pitching coaches, was saying, that two-seamer that you saw Ryan Sloan throw today on Sunday, that hit 98 miles an hour, he essentially just unveiled that.
18:22 --> 18:23 [SPEAKER_00]: That's new, apparently.
18:24 --> 18:29 [SPEAKER_00]: And it is newly hitting 98 miles an hour crazy.
18:30 --> 18:33 [SPEAKER_00]: And number three, I'd say the biggest story of them all.
18:33 --> 18:36 [SPEAKER_00]: 20 inches of break on a slider.
18:36 --> 18:45 [SPEAKER_00]: 20, I mean, dude, I think the big league average is about five and a half, 20 inches.
18:46 --> 18:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, straight versus sweeper versus slider.
18:49 --> 18:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Sweepers are always going to have more horizontal break than a tight slider.
18:55 --> 18:55 [SPEAKER_00]: little share.
18:56 --> 18:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Point being that is nuts.
18:58 --> 19:01 [SPEAKER_00]: So much so that I'm sure a lot of you have seen the video by now.
19:02 --> 19:04 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's weaver he threw was so good.
19:05 --> 19:09 [SPEAKER_00]: That Randy Arroza Reina was so full that he shocked his back.
19:10 --> 19:11 [SPEAKER_00]: at the end of the abat.
19:11 --> 19:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you go watch the abat, Sloan starts a rosarana off of the fastball and overpowers them, like Randy swings right through it.
19:19 --> 19:26 [SPEAKER_00]: And then he ends with that sweeper that had the 20 inches of brake and Randy was so fooled that the bat went flying out of his hands down the third baseline.
19:28 --> 19:31 [SPEAKER_00]: How do you not dare to dream watching that sequence unfold?
19:32 --> 19:39 [SPEAKER_02]: And he unveiled a little bit more of his arsenal, this spring training, he said he's got his cutter and he has to kick change as well.
19:40 --> 19:41 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's five pitches.
19:42 --> 19:45 [SPEAKER_00]: And not to mention his favorite pitch of all of them if you ask them.
19:45 --> 19:46 [SPEAKER_00]: change it.
19:46 --> 19:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Change up his favorite pitch.
19:48 --> 20:01 [SPEAKER_00]: So everything he threw today isn't even the pitch he likes the best, which again, Sloan's talked about it, but if you just go read the article that Daniel Kramer put out today on mlb.com, it was in that article too, that Sloan's favorite pitch is the change up.
20:02 --> 20:08 [SPEAKER_02]: And if you just listen to Ryan Davis talk about him, he says, Ryan Sloan is throwing rockets.
20:09 --> 20:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you could tell even in the bullpen videos before he took the mound on Sunday.
20:13 --> 20:18 [SPEAKER_00]: That bullpen, he threw the other day, it was like, whoa, the glove is popping on those Ryan's slow and bullpen.
20:19 --> 20:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Not to mention that
20:21 --> 20:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the dude is six, five, he looks incredibly, you know, like, he, Ryan Sloan is in that best shape of his life category right now.
20:30 --> 20:45 [SPEAKER_00]: He's always been really built, but Brian Wu, again, to keep referencing the Daniel Kramer article, Brian Wu referenced some as, when you look at him from like the face, like, like, you just look at his face, he looks like he's 12 years old, is what Wu said.
20:46 --> 20:49 [SPEAKER_00]: But then you look at his legs and you say that is a centaur.
20:50 --> 20:56 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's coming from someone in Brian Wu, who is built from the face down like that.
20:56 --> 21:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Brian Wu, when we're talking about lower body strength, he knows what he's talking about, lower body strength.
21:02 --> 21:08 [SPEAKER_02]: If he's saying that about someone else, like he knows it, we get like the different variations of this from different Mariners pictures.
21:08 --> 21:18 [SPEAKER_02]: I think Brian Wu, among all the five normal Mariners starters, is the guy who has the most built out lower half than any of these other guys.
21:18 --> 21:34 [SPEAKER_02]: So we say in that, like, and given the extra height and given some of the extra velocity, given us age, I mean, again, if you want to be completely irresponsible and irrational and delusional, like the two of us are,
21:35 --> 21:45 [SPEAKER_00]: often, and like we were on Sunday, you can watch Kate Anderson and Ryan Sloan in this spring training, and you can just sit to yourself and say, yep, that's the next Gary Cole Max Freed right there, baby.
21:46 --> 21:47 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I tweeted out on Sunday.
21:48 --> 21:59 [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to be totally irresponsible like us and dream to the moon, you could look at those two guys and the way they're built and their pitchmix and say, well, we got the next Gary Cole and Max Freed.
21:59 --> 22:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Now if you want to be a little bit more reasonable, you could say to yourself,
22:03 --> 22:15 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see how their entirety of the 2026 goes, but their pitch mix and the work they did in the off season and their mentality and what they've showed early on makes it really, really fun to dream on their ceiling.
22:16 --> 22:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's healthy right now.
22:17 --> 22:25 [SPEAKER_02]: That part really helps everyone's rusted and they can light up the radar gun and they don't have the weight of a season behind them.
22:25 --> 22:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, really the thing, as I said at the beginning.
22:27 --> 22:51 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be about innings because Rhine Sloan through 82 innings last year for the Mariners across two levels he's I don't know if he's going to have a hundred like he's going to get up to what 120 innings this year I'm not totally sure that 120 innings is enough to get him to the big leagues because how do you get even if everything works out how are you going to get enough production out of him
22:51 --> 22:56 [SPEAKER_02]: to get him to a useful spot in the Big League's wall being capped at 120 annex.
22:57 --> 22:59 [SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be really, really difficult.
23:00 --> 23:01 [SPEAKER_02]: But he's got a chance this year.
23:01 --> 23:12 [SPEAKER_02]: You could stick him in the bullpen as a 20-year-old flame thrower, throwing 101 miles an hour, because he gets to max out for three outs.
23:12 --> 23:13 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't know that.
23:13 --> 23:16 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see how it looks later this season in terms of spring training.
23:16 --> 23:17 [SPEAKER_02]: It looks really good.
23:17 --> 23:21 [SPEAKER_02]: This is not something new though with top prospects in spring training.
23:21 --> 23:24 [SPEAKER_02]: This happens with top guys every single year.
23:24 --> 23:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember our guy Logan Evans in spring training?
23:29 --> 23:33 [SPEAKER_02]: He was dial it up, he was throwing rockets.
23:34 --> 23:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, of course, when he got to the big leagues, he was not throwing quite that hard.
23:37 --> 23:51 [SPEAKER_02]: There was another top Mariners prospect that I remember, while this exact same story happening back in 2021, I'll redact the name until ironically, redact the name until we get to the end of this tweet that tweets out.
23:52 --> 24:16 [SPEAKER_02]: blank, sat 98 to 100 miles an hour, rumored a tick above, so 99 to 101, faced 8 to the first 2, striking out 6 with 2 team errors, only hitable ball was to just in Foskew a former top prospect, who homered, but blank got the best of them in another
24:18 --> 24:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I know the answer, but I'll give everybody watching and listening a couple seconds to think about it.
24:22 --> 24:26 [SPEAKER_00]: 2021, you can tell people.
24:26 --> 24:26 [SPEAKER_02]: That was George Kirby.
24:28 --> 24:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
24:28 --> 24:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I remember everyone talking about George Kirby in that 2021 camp.
24:32 --> 24:36 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure it was David's who tweeted out, I couldn't find the tweet, but I'm almost certain.
24:36 --> 24:39 [SPEAKER_02]: He was like, oh my god, I just watched Kirby throw 102 miles an hour.
24:41 --> 24:41 [SPEAKER_02]: So I got it.
24:42 --> 24:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, like 102 with command, holy crap.
24:46 --> 24:49 [SPEAKER_02]: George Kirby doesn't throw 102 at the big leagues, big league level.
24:49 --> 24:56 [SPEAKER_02]: He throws 96, 97 on good days, he'll throw 98 to 99 miles an hour.
24:56 --> 24:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, but let me ask two follow-ups here.
25:00 --> 25:02 [SPEAKER_00]: How old was George Kirby in 2021 spring training?
25:02 --> 25:05 [SPEAKER_00]: He would have been 23, right?
25:06 --> 25:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know, phage matters in this.
25:09 --> 25:11 [SPEAKER_00]: So let me ask my second follow-up question.
25:12 --> 25:14 [SPEAKER_00]: George Kirby is not six foot five
25:16 --> 25:38 [SPEAKER_00]: George Kirby's six four the the idea is more the the build not the way yet or the not the height Yes, there's similar enough heights the build right and Sloan's a little different than the build a George Kirby And I don't know 20 versus 20 and how much do we think Sloan's clocking in now so they have George listed at 215 Sloan to 30 thanks, so maybe 240.
25:38 --> 25:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm Well, I
25:41 --> 25:44 [SPEAKER_02]: they don't need him to throw 101 as a starter.
25:44 --> 25:47 [SPEAKER_02]: In fact, I don't really want him throwing 101 as a starter.
25:48 --> 25:55 [SPEAKER_02]: We only have a few examples of guys throwing that hard as a starting pitcher and like living to see the tail.
25:55 --> 25:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Like Jacob DeGrom did that.
25:58 --> 25:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Looks really good.
25:59 --> 26:02 [SPEAKER_02]: But then it suffered all these injuries and he had to dial it back this past year.
26:03 --> 26:09 [SPEAKER_02]: And if we remember, when he won his back to back Sy Young, he did not throw his heart as his quote unquote peak, right?
26:09 --> 26:14 [SPEAKER_02]: He would throw like 96 to 99 when he won those back to back Sy Youngs.
26:14 --> 26:18 [SPEAKER_02]: And then he started sitting like 100, 101 in like 2021.
26:19 --> 26:22 [SPEAKER_02]: We have a sub one, ERA want to say, and he got hurt.
26:22 --> 26:24 [SPEAKER_02]: I went here from him for four years.
26:24 --> 26:30 [SPEAKER_02]: The only guy who's done this and survived as long as he has is just a verlander.
26:32 --> 26:32 [SPEAKER_02]: If I have that, right?
26:32 --> 26:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember anyone else doing that?
26:34 --> 26:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and even he's had Tommy John to be fair.
26:37 --> 26:40 [SPEAKER_02]: It was like a single Tommy John in 20 years.
26:41 --> 26:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
26:42 --> 26:50 [SPEAKER_02]: But Verlander, when he was a, Verlander when he was a tiger, our friend foolish baseball did a video on him, would like wait until the eighth inning until things got really heated.
26:51 --> 26:53 [SPEAKER_02]: And then he would start uncorking one-on-one-one-two.
26:54 --> 26:56 [SPEAKER_02]: He's the only dude I see, do that.
26:57 --> 27:00 [SPEAKER_02]: That has stayed consistently healthy throughout the years.
27:00 --> 27:09 [SPEAKER_02]: So not to throw a damper on Ryan's Sloan, but just because you throw that hard doesn't always meet like you don't have to throw that hard and it doesn't mean you will.
27:10 --> 27:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm guessing during the year he'll probably sit more in the mid 90s because he's got a you know he's going to make himself last.
27:16 --> 27:19 [SPEAKER_02]: In these scenarios he's what he's throwing 40 50 pitches.
27:20 --> 27:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he can ramp it up a little bit more.
27:22 --> 27:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
27:23 --> 27:23 [SPEAKER_00]: For sure.
27:24 --> 27:27 [SPEAKER_00]: And I would also say that
27:28 --> 27:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I was going somewhere with this thought, but with Sloan and throwing this hard and starting to get the work in this camp, I know it's some thought with this, but if it comes back to me, I'll rattle it off, but the point with Sloan here is yes, I don't think you should expect to see them throwing 100 miles an hour all the time and you're right, that's probably not a sustainable model, but this is much more about that.
27:52 --> 27:59 [SPEAKER_00]: just seeing overpowering really good major league hitters early in camp at 20 years old is the exciting part here.
27:59 --> 28:03 [SPEAKER_00]: I know Randy arose right now, it takes some crazy swings, but to make them look like that early on.
28:04 --> 28:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's going to, it can make your jaw drop.
28:07 --> 28:08 [SPEAKER_00]: It'll make your eyes pop.
28:08 --> 28:09 [SPEAKER_00]: It'll do a lot of things.
28:09 --> 28:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Ryan Sloan's not your standard 20-year-old like Randy's not walking up to the play me like oh, this is a guy who's not pitched above high A. I got this now when you're when you're a top 30 prospect maybe you're not all the way honed ready for the major leagues
28:24 --> 28:30 [SPEAKER_02]: But your raw stuff is still good enough to make, like, make an impact in a single ad bat.
28:31 --> 28:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember I was gonna say about Sloan, and it's about how they're gonna manage his inning.
28:35 --> 28:37 [SPEAKER_00]: So you said he threw a little over 80 last year.
28:38 --> 28:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably fair to assume this year he'll throw somewhere between 110 to 120.
28:42 --> 28:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he'd have a few extra bullets to throw in the bullpen in the postseason if they decided that's what they wanted to do.
28:47 --> 28:52 [SPEAKER_00]: But then come 2027, that's where you'd probably see him throw
28:53 --> 28:56 [SPEAKER_00]: 140 to 150, he definitely be on some innings limit.
28:56 --> 29:02 [SPEAKER_00]: But 2027, it's feeling like that's when we'd see I'm stamped in the big leagues at that point.
29:02 --> 29:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And he'd probably be around that count, if I had to guess.
29:05 --> 29:10 [SPEAKER_02]: And then it wouldn't be until 2028 or he would be fully uncorrect.
29:10 --> 29:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, in 2028, he would be 22 years old.
29:16 --> 29:18 [SPEAKER_02]: which is a very normal timeline for guys.
29:18 --> 29:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, for reference, Kate Anderson threw his 120 innings at LSU last year at age 20 or 21.
29:26 --> 29:28 [SPEAKER_02]: One or the other.
29:28 --> 29:35 [SPEAKER_00]: All I met with Sloan is if he's going to be fully ramped up to go potentially 200 innings at 22 years old, that's not normal.
29:35 --> 29:38 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a ridiculously fast pace for a dude who's got
29:39 --> 29:42 [SPEAKER_00]: as high a potential as anybody in any arm in the system.
29:42 --> 29:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I will be very interested to talk to Joe Doyle this week, which we are scheduled to have him on for Wednesday's podcast.
29:49 --> 29:53 [SPEAKER_00]: And just to have him take us back a little bit to the draft in 2024.
29:54 --> 29:57 [SPEAKER_00]: In the sense of, look, the Mariners overslotted Ryan Sloan.
29:58 --> 30:01 [SPEAKER_00]: They got him to sign because they gave him a pretty good chunk of money.
30:02 --> 30:05 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'm still curious, and I'm going to want to ask Joe about this.
30:06 --> 30:09 [SPEAKER_00]: What did all these other teams miss?
30:10 --> 30:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Because he was already so built in high school and was so polished in high school that were there not teams honestly from the 10 to 12 picking on that we're looking at this and said if he wants first round money, let's take him with first round money, some more between picks 10 and 30, I don't know, it's crazy.
30:30 --> 30:36 [SPEAKER_02]: And like, it would be unfair to compare on with the other pitchers because frankly, most of these guys haven't debuted yet.
30:37 --> 30:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
30:40 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
30:41 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_02]: I remember I'll say a past example of one of a guy who's slept and people were like, Oh, how did he slip?
30:49 --> 30:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Mike trout.
30:50 --> 30:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember the reason?
30:52 --> 30:56 [SPEAKER_00]: It always rained in New Jersey and Scouts couldn't get out there a lot, right?
30:56 --> 30:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
30:56 --> 30:58 [SPEAKER_02]: And he didn't have as many games to play.
30:58 --> 31:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Because all the other guys are playing in a bunch of showcases and warm other states, trapped in play in as many showcase games because it was farther for him to travel.
31:07 --> 31:09 [SPEAKER_02]: They got some, yeah, they got games rained out.
31:09 --> 31:12 [SPEAKER_02]: The Scouts didn't want to travel all the way up to New Jersey to watch him play.
31:13 --> 31:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Oops, yeah, I think the scouting process has evolved to this point where it's like okay tough shit like it's raining in in Illinois It's cold when he's playing his early games.
31:25 --> 31:28 [SPEAKER_02]: So what go watch him they understand they can't miss talent.
31:28 --> 31:30 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be curious to hear Joe's answer on that
31:30 --> 31:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I will be very curious to hear Joe's answer because I don't know if it's so much of a scouting misshap as it is just about teams priorities in the draft.
31:40 --> 31:42 [SPEAKER_00]: I will be very interested to hear what Joe says.
31:42 --> 31:45 [SPEAKER_02]: I would guess it is something to do with money.
31:45 --> 31:55 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to, I would also guess that Ryan probably hadn't his mind that half that he was going to, he very well could go to college.
31:55 --> 32:07 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think I don't think teams wanted to try and get an bidding war with him, and then risk losing him to risk losing him in the pick for another year to wake forest, right?
32:07 --> 32:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure, because he was committed to wake forest, that school that year, when they drafted him or the year before, I mean, they had ret louder drafted in the first round, Chase Burns just went number two overall at a wake forest.
32:20 --> 32:23 [SPEAKER_02]: They, you know, they produce some really, really good pitchers.
32:23 --> 32:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, and Wake Forest is known for being way ahead of its time in terms of college baseball teams and their pitching development.
32:30 --> 32:38 [SPEAKER_00]: They are next level good with their analytics and the data and just how they internally develop arms.
32:39 --> 32:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Ryan Sloan just wanted to be a mariner.
32:41 --> 32:44 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he said if I make it past pick X.
32:45 --> 32:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I will go to Seattle if they overslaught me, but otherwise there's certain teams I just don't want to go to.
32:51 --> 32:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's what happened.
32:52 --> 32:55 [SPEAKER_00]: But again, this is all speculation, and I will be very curious, that's Joe.
32:55 --> 32:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Remember how this process goes with the draft?
32:57 --> 33:12 [SPEAKER_02]: These guys, I mean, they might agree to pick, like as, like even within the top 10 picks, the Mariners might call them and say, hey, if we take you, if we take you at, well, I forget the exact number of the pick.
33:12 --> 33:41 [SPEAKER_02]: will you sign here for X amount right because he's going into the draft looking for a certain amount of money based on where he slotted beforehand and it doesn't really matter where you get picked as long as you get that money you'll you'll still suck as long as the Mariners can come through with that that amount of cash Yes, Sloan was drafted at pick number 55 Million in a well his signing bonus was a million in a half right or is it three
33:41 --> 33:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Who's three I think let me reopen the page hang on because I just had it up his son I think was three million dollars.
33:48 --> 34:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, loan time for three million dollars, which looking through the second round that is Besides Tommy's thanks who was the first pick of the second round That is just about as much as any second round or got by a decent amount.
34:02 --> 34:06 [SPEAKER_00]: There was one guy at pick 44
34:06 --> 34:15 [SPEAKER_00]: by the nationals who got way over-slotted at 3.8, but otherwise, I mean, Sloan is in a pack on his own, compared to the second rounders and what they signed for.
34:15 --> 34:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so the $3 million is end of first round money, essentially.
34:19 --> 34:21 [SPEAKER_02]: It was Tommy Tank's over-slot?
34:21 --> 34:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Tommy White, by the way, he's an A for those of you, unfamiliar with the nickname.
34:25 --> 34:28 [SPEAKER_00]: he signed right at three million dollars.
34:28 --> 34:35 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't list exactly what slots are, but three million dollars to be fair, picks 31 through 39.
34:35 --> 34:40 [SPEAKER_00]: So basically all the comp A picks and the first round from 24 got less than that.
34:41 --> 34:44 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's like, yeah, roughly end of first round money.
34:44 --> 34:47 [SPEAKER_02]: What if there's a very real chance that around pick 25?
34:48 --> 34:52 [SPEAKER_02]: The Mariners are inquiring about Sloan, and they say, hey, do you have any other offers on the table?
34:53 --> 34:54 [SPEAKER_02]: If you don't,
34:54 --> 34:56 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll offer you $3 million to pick $54.
34:57 --> 35:01 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll sure, and that feels plausible, but what was going on?
35:01 --> 35:05 [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know, picks 12, 13, their high school arms drafted, that high.
35:06 --> 35:10 [SPEAKER_02]: It could be a simple lie, as high school arms are incredibly volatile.
35:10 --> 35:14 [SPEAKER_02]: They have a long way to go, and they're incredibly prone to injuries.
35:14 --> 35:22 [SPEAKER_00]: It could, and let's move on to Katie Anderson here in a second, but the last thing I will say, just talking about this draft process, which again, I think will be a good conversation for Joe Doyle on Wednesday.
35:23 --> 35:26 [SPEAKER_00]: So be sure to stick around and check that out, is you are right about high school arms.
35:26 --> 35:29 [SPEAKER_00]: They can be risky, but
35:29 --> 35:32 [SPEAKER_00]: There were high school arms drafted in this draft.
35:32 --> 35:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I believe, and a couple of them I want to say, can I give an example?
35:38 --> 35:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Can I give an example?
35:39 --> 35:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Cam Cam and Eddie was drafted at 24.
35:41 --> 35:43 [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe that was the first high school arm off the board.
35:43 --> 35:51 [SPEAKER_00]: So maybe by that point was where the Mariners and Sloan were saying, okay, if you haven't been drafted by here, we'll move you down to our pick.
35:51 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's what happened.
35:52 --> 35:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to use this as an example and, I mean, I'm so bummed for him that this happened.
35:58 --> 35:59 [SPEAKER_02]: We've met him before.
35:59 --> 36:00 [SPEAKER_02]: He's awesome.
36:01 --> 36:05 [SPEAKER_02]: But a Mariners example of this is Sam Carlson.
36:06 --> 36:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Sam Carlson over slotted high school arm in the second round for the Mariners.
36:12 --> 36:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone, he was 2017, Evan White's class, right?
36:15 --> 36:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
36:16 --> 36:17 [SPEAKER_02]: He was supposed to be a first round arm.
36:17 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_02]: People thought, hey, Mariners got to steal with this one.
36:21 --> 36:22 [SPEAKER_02]: still is never pitch in majors.
36:24 --> 36:25 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a huge bummer.
36:25 --> 36:27 [SPEAKER_02]: We have gotten to meet him.
36:27 --> 36:29 [SPEAKER_02]: He's awesome, super nice guy.
36:29 --> 36:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Been very successful online as a creator, but in terms of making the big leagues he has done it.
36:38 --> 36:39 [SPEAKER_02]: And also, by the way, where's he from?
36:39 --> 36:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Minnesota.
36:41 --> 36:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Right next to right next to Illinois, Cold Weather State.
36:45 --> 36:49 [SPEAKER_02]: There are always chances of this happening with those
36:50 --> 36:58 [SPEAKER_00]: is there anything to really dissect on Kate Anderson because what jumped out about him will one, his bullpen, was said to have been very, very impressive.
36:59 --> 37:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Number two was then he got into live at bats against the bunch of these guys that were pitching in the U.S. or that are gonna go play in the WBC in Rosarana, Dom Canzone, Miles Master Boni, struck at all three.
37:14 --> 37:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Just got right up there, punch tickets on all three of them.
37:17 --> 37:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And then if that's not enough, he goes in face is Cal Raleigh.
37:20 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_00]: And he fell behind three, oh.
37:22 --> 37:23 [SPEAKER_00]: But he battled right back.
37:24 --> 37:27 [SPEAKER_00]: And on the three, oh pitch, he puts one in the zone and he just gets Cal the pop up.
37:29 --> 37:40 [SPEAKER_02]: We got a comment on the, uh, I think you on the Anderson post, who I was like, I know Calvin is second second and MVP, but he did that a lot this year where he fell behind three.
37:40 --> 37:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and popped up.
37:41 --> 37:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's like your line.
37:43 --> 37:45 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see that's a real comment.
37:45 --> 37:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Ain't no way we have people complaining about let me check my notes here for a second.
37:49 --> 37:51 [SPEAKER_00]: Cal Rally.
37:52 --> 37:54 [SPEAKER_02]: what's the real government.
37:56 --> 38:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't have much to look into with Kate Anderson because like Ryan Sloan is on this upswing of projection and hype and like uncomp humpelling all these layers of an onion that you're hoping to find like a golden nugget at the middle of that because
38:11 --> 38:13 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a high school arm, he's got a lot of growing to do.
38:13 --> 38:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Kate Anderson pitched in the best baseball conference in America last year, was the best picture in the country, one in national championship, and went number three overall.
38:24 --> 38:26 [SPEAKER_02]: The dude is already on the doorstep of the major leagues.
38:27 --> 38:31 [SPEAKER_02]: He was facing borderline big league hitters, almost every weekend.
38:33 --> 38:35 [SPEAKER_02]: and gets into like Mariners camp.
38:36 --> 38:36 [SPEAKER_02]: He's older.
38:36 --> 38:37 [SPEAKER_02]: He's more developed.
38:37 --> 38:40 [SPEAKER_02]: He's got more innings under his belt than Ryan Sloan does.
38:42 --> 38:57 [SPEAKER_02]: And maybe he's not quite at a big league level yet, but he is significantly more polished on a pitch basis and just, you know, also in a pitch basis on a stuff basis on a on a workload basis than Ryan Sloan is.
38:58 --> 38:59 [SPEAKER_02]: And he shows it.
38:59 --> 39:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Like
39:03 --> 39:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I would still pump the brakes a little bit on people who are starting to say to themselves that he could be up by June or something because I again, people are getting very, very excited about these guys and you should because they got a chance to be really good.
39:20 --> 39:26 [SPEAKER_00]: There's also a little bit of really and I think people like some people might need to do in terms of the timelines.
39:26 --> 39:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean speaking of comments, there were some comments that we saw this weekend about.
39:30 --> 39:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, one of the mariners just deal one of these arms and spring training, they like pave the way for Kate Anderson.
39:35 --> 39:37 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
39:38 --> 39:39 [SPEAKER_02]: They already traded a starter.
39:39 --> 39:40 [SPEAKER_02]: They don't need to trade another one.
39:40 --> 39:46 [SPEAKER_02]: No, like, the mariners rat capacity when it comes to trading top-starting prospects.
39:46 --> 39:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, right.
39:47 --> 39:50 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, this is also the internet.
39:50 --> 39:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would say this, right?
39:55 --> 39:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Kate Anderson thrown one big league season and basically, or sorry, not big league season.
39:59 --> 40:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Kate Anderson thrown one full season in the last five years, essentially, because he had Tommy John as senior year at high school.
40:05 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_00]: So last year at LSU was really the only full season he's thrown in a long time.
40:10 --> 40:24 [SPEAKER_00]: With that, there is some level of caution you have to take with his innings, and you can't just fast track them the way that, you know, you can't do what the Diamondbacks did with
40:24 --> 40:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think what's the time back?
40:26 --> 40:28 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, reds, reds.
40:28 --> 40:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
40:29 --> 40:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
40:29 --> 40:33 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, where the reds drafted Mike Leak in the top 10, and they just put them right in the big leagues.
40:34 --> 40:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it can't be something like that.
40:36 --> 40:38 [SPEAKER_00]: There is a stage of development.
40:38 --> 40:40 [SPEAKER_00]: The Kate Anderson is going to need.
40:40 --> 40:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'd say he's in a similar boat to Ryan Sloan, where could he pitch out of the bullpen and the playoffs if they decide they need him for that?
40:48 --> 40:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's possible.
40:49 --> 40:54 [SPEAKER_00]: But I would expect to see Kate Anderson spend essentially
40:54 --> 41:00 [SPEAKER_00]: in the minors, especially if everybody in the Mariners rotation stays healthy, because he'll need all of that development time.
41:00 --> 41:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Come 2027, we're talking about a different story, but I would expect to see Cade stay in the minors throughout most of the year.
41:07 --> 41:08 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't mean he's not going to be great.
41:08 --> 41:15 [SPEAKER_00]: He could win minor league pitcher of the year for all we know, but he is going to need those starts in the minors.
41:16 --> 41:19 [SPEAKER_02]: And so I think him and Sloan are going to be on the same wrong.
41:19 --> 41:21 [SPEAKER_02]: I would guess
41:22 --> 41:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Keep my get double-life faster, but they're both going to end the season in our console if everything goes right.
41:27 --> 41:29 [SPEAKER_02]: They're both going to start the season and ever it.
41:30 --> 41:35 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just when they get promoted based on need, et cetera, like that's going to be it.
41:35 --> 41:43 [SPEAKER_02]: But I would, I think it would take a disaster for Ryan Sloan or Kate Anderson to make any starts in the big leagues this year.
41:43 --> 41:45 [SPEAKER_02]: You shouldn't want those guys in the big league this year.
41:45 --> 41:50 [SPEAKER_02]: I know it sounds like a good idea to say, let's just put our top prospects in the big leagues.
41:51 --> 41:53 [SPEAKER_02]: But this is not,
41:53 --> 41:57 [SPEAKER_02]: a phenom positional position player prospect.
41:57 --> 42:05 [SPEAKER_02]: This is not a Julio Rodriguez playing 40 games in AA destroying the Texas league and there's like, all right, well, he's big league ready.
42:05 --> 42:07 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll put him in the big league next year.
42:08 --> 42:17 [SPEAKER_02]: The Mariners have so many good starting pitchers that I just don't see how it benefits them in any way to like Rusty's guys to the big leagues.
42:17 --> 42:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I would, I personally would rather have Luis Castillo, Logan Gilbert, George Kirby, Brian Woobrice, Miller, make every single start this year, and I don't have to hear the name Ryan Sloan or Kate Anderson until the end of the year when they win their minor league awards.
42:33 --> 42:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
42:34 --> 42:41 [SPEAKER_00]: And if their heaven forbid is an injury, then that's what people like Emerson Hancock and Dane Dunning and Cooper Chris while are there for.
42:42 --> 42:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, as fun as it would be to have those guys up in the big leagues,
42:45 --> 42:52 [SPEAKER_00]: The best thing you can do for them is let them go through their full stages of development rather than being pulled up for a need.
42:54 --> 42:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Because then you seem desperate.
42:56 --> 42:57 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think the Mariners want to be desperate.
42:57 --> 43:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I think they're deep enough to not be desperate at this point.
43:00 --> 43:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, in top prospect, the Mariners will have this year up at the big league levels, Colt Emerson.
43:07 --> 43:07 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
43:08 --> 43:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Who is the top prospect?
43:10 --> 43:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Great.
43:11 --> 43:20 [SPEAKER_00]: just again the best thing you can do for both Sloan and Anderson is let them fully develop and like they did with coal young like they did with coal to Emerson like they done with so many guys.
43:21 --> 43:41 [SPEAKER_00]: The best time they can get called up is when they show the Mariners likely in 2027 that they are ready to be called up that's that's when the scenario best unfold is when they show you they're ready and you're working on their timeline not they're working on the Mariners timeline because of an
43:41 --> 43:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, the thing for them, though, it's like, we're, the mariners are going to be in a scenario at this time next year when you wonder how these dudes are going to fit in the starting rotation.
43:51 --> 44:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's going to be, that's going to become more of a question next year, and that gets into a conversation, which again, I'm sure we'll just continue throughout the season of slogan Gilbert Extended, George Kirby Extended, or they open new extensions.
44:03 --> 44:06 [SPEAKER_00]: That's when questions start to have to be asked.
44:06 --> 44:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Next year in spring training or next off season is going to be a very different story, but that's not the story right now.
44:14 --> 44:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Last thing we wanted to touch on on this episode that I think we wanted to touch on on Friday's episode, but I think we forgot.
44:20 --> 44:22 [SPEAKER_02]: So let's talk about it now, Lyle.
44:22 --> 44:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Can you please bring this in?
44:24 --> 44:32 [SPEAKER_02]: There was a story that came out from Vladimir Guerrero Jr. in the Blue Jazes past weekend, this past week.
44:35 --> 44:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just going to give you the floor.
44:37 --> 44:47 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know where I honestly saw it, I mean, I saw it online a bunch, but I saw it first from who else, but our friends at gate 14 and Johnny Junta because of course we did.
44:48 --> 44:57 [SPEAKER_00]: So, Vladimir was on a podcast sometime in the last week, or at least the clip came out in the last week, where he was talking about
44:57 --> 45:17 [SPEAKER_00]: the series against the Mariners and he mentioned what happened after Game 5 in Seattle when are you any as far as hit the walkoff grand slam now to give some context of this before getting into what Vlad he was talking about you guys probably remember when the blue jays beat the Yankees right in the alds and glad he's on the post game show on fox sports with
45:17 --> 45:40 [SPEAKER_00]: David Ortiz and Aeron and Kevin Burkhard and Geter and he's got the headset on and he goes he does the whole big poppy thing he goes, duh, Yankees lose that video went everywhere I mean people loved it people thought it was hilarious so that video made its rounds and clearly it was in the minds of some people related to the Mariners because apparently according to Vladie
45:40 --> 45:57 [SPEAKER_00]: After Game 5 of the ALCS when this series was not one yet, it wasn't one, the Mariners needed to win another game, but after Game 5, Vlad is apparently walking by the family section leaving the stadium, he's got his headphones on.
45:58 --> 46:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently not listening to anything because he details that.
46:02 --> 46:04 [SPEAKER_00]: He walks by a group of Mariners wives.
46:04 --> 46:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And one of them takes it upon themselves to say to Blattie as he's walking by.
46:09 --> 46:12 [SPEAKER_00]: She goes, duh, blue days lose.
46:13 --> 46:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I am so glad that that worked out because you don't need me to tell you how game six and game seven went.
46:22 --> 46:26 [SPEAKER_00]: When Vladimir Gerard Jr. heard that happen, he said he had his headphones on.
46:27 --> 46:29 [SPEAKER_00]: He acted like he didn't hear it, but he absolutely did.
46:29 --> 46:36 [SPEAKER_00]: And then apparently he said to Andre Semenas, turns to him and says, they don't know that they're heading into the Valley of Death.
46:36 --> 46:45 [SPEAKER_00]: And I hate to give the Blue Jays and their fans credit, but it absolutely was the Valley of Death in the Rogers Center because again, you don't need me to tell you what happened in game six and seven.
46:46 --> 46:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, why on earth would you think to do that?
46:51 --> 46:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
46:51 --> 46:53 [SPEAKER_02]: So let me ask you the big question.
46:55 --> 46:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Who was it?
46:57 --> 47:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, Vlad didn't say, so either Vlad didn't know or he chose to not say it, we obviously don't know.
47:06 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_00]: So all we could do is potentially speculate, although I wonder.
47:12 --> 47:21 [SPEAKER_00]: That's also how we get ourselves in trouble about we speculate like which wife was trash talking flattied junior to ignite the fuel to help him win game six and seven.
47:21 --> 47:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's actually what ignited the blue jays or not, but still which wife was it if I were to throw out speculation I feel like I could get myself in trouble.
47:30 --> 47:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Fair have a way put on our big jay journalist hats get down to spring training and find out.
47:39 --> 47:43 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what an electric story if we were to actually find out who it was.
47:45 --> 47:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Just walk up to a player and say, hey, how was the offseason?
47:48 --> 47:51 [SPEAKER_02]: By the way, did your wife chirp bloody?
47:52 --> 47:52 [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
47:53 --> 48:13 [SPEAKER_00]: like just curious you would probably know right have have you seen the have you seen what the Yankees do in spring training where they have somebody with a whiteboard with a question of the day standing outside the entrance to the Yankees bring to the facility how all the players walk by each day in spring training and they're on video and they answer the question as they walk in
48:13 --> 48:27 [SPEAKER_00]: What if we start a content series during our week of spring training where we stand outside the entrance to the Mariners facility with video with audio and we just hang up a big whiteboard that says, did your wife church bloody after game five of the ALCS?
48:30 --> 48:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm down.
48:32 --> 48:32 [SPEAKER_02]: I need to know.
48:33 --> 48:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the fact that this even has like a 1%
48:40 --> 48:43 [SPEAKER_02]: in the Mariners not going to the world series last year?
48:44 --> 48:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, to fucking know.
48:45 --> 48:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
48:46 --> 48:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
48:47 --> 48:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, it may take us years to get the answer.
48:50 --> 48:56 [SPEAKER_00]: But listen, sometimes big J-journalists have to do investigative stories for years on end before they can put their story out.
48:56 --> 49:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, shocker if you listen to Brock and talk, you know, I know nothing about anything.
49:01 --> 49:04 [SPEAKER_00]: But didn't Watergate take years and years to unfold?
49:05 --> 49:06 [SPEAKER_00]: think so.
49:06 --> 49:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're you're asking the wrong person, but point being we might have to do years of investigative journalism on this before we get to finally report on it.
49:15 --> 49:23 [SPEAKER_02]: And if there are any potential any family members listening to this, your secret safe with us if you want to report.
49:23 --> 49:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, please feel free to share DM, email, MarieLairPod at gmail.com or MarieLairPod on all social media accounts.
49:29 --> 49:30 [SPEAKER_00]: You have my word.
49:30 --> 49:32 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying it right here on the podcast.
49:32 --> 49:36 [SPEAKER_00]: You will be left 150% confidential.
49:36 --> 49:37 [SPEAKER_00]: We just need names.
49:37 --> 49:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
49:38 --> 49:39 [SPEAKER_02]: We need names.
49:40 --> 49:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Because these actions are unacceptable.
49:42 --> 49:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
49:43 --> 49:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, again, as I said, when we talked about this on social media,
49:47 --> 50:02 [SPEAKER_00]: If you are going to chirp a blue jay during a series that is not over during the playoff, what in your right mind goes to go chirp 27, like let's go chirp bloody, like if you want to chirp somebody which you shouldn't be doing in the first place when a series is not over.
50:03 --> 50:10 [SPEAKER_00]: but go chirp, Jonathan Kloffsay, don't chirp, bloody, bloody of all people, like, come on.
50:11 --> 50:19 [SPEAKER_00]: The only thing that would have made this worse is if we found out this was George Springer, because that would have been a wrinkle in this whole equation that would have been like, you gotta be kidding.
50:21 --> 50:24 [SPEAKER_00]: Like Springer is the one guy that would be worse than chirping black knowing what unfolded.
50:25 --> 50:25 [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
50:26 --> 50:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, if we do find out at Spring Training and we are allowed to tell,
50:34 --> 50:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, if we're allowed to share, we'll share.
50:36 --> 50:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
50:37 --> 50:41 [SPEAKER_00]: But if we don't get the answers, then there's nothing we can do.
50:41 --> 50:45 [SPEAKER_00]: But hey, again, I honestly think that's a great idea in terms of we need content.
50:45 --> 50:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Just stand outside with a big whiteboard that says, did your wife chirp bloody during Game 5 of the ALCS, yes or no?
50:53 --> 50:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's a pretty easy whiteboard question and answer.
50:55 --> 50:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And if there's like hesitation from people when they walk in, I could be a tell.
51:01 --> 51:05 [SPEAKER_02]: What are the chances that none of the players know or they didn't know until?
51:06 --> 51:07 [SPEAKER_02]: this week.
51:07 --> 51:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
51:08 --> 51:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they're doing their own investigative journalism and every single one of them is doing the whole eight-spenture thing where he has to find the missing, uh, the missing diamond or piece of stone in, in the Super Bowl ring and he's like going around trying to track down every player and see who's got the missing piece of diamond in their ring.
51:26 --> 51:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they're going and doing that right now.
51:27 --> 51:30 [SPEAKER_00]: They're like going through, talking to every wife.
51:30 --> 51:35 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like,
51:36 --> 51:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I hope we find out dog this this is among many of the things we're trying to do down at spring training this is shot very close to the top of the list now it has well we'll keep people we'll keep people posted so we'll try
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