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01:21 --> 01:31 [SPEAKER_01]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast, part of the just-way small podcast network, recording you're on Tuesday evening March 10th and the season is over.
01:33 --> 01:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum-bum
01:48 --> 01:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Someone's getting treated, it just can't work anymore.
01:52 --> 01:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Team's got to get blown up.
01:54 --> 01:56 [SPEAKER_02]: What's the Randy Marsh, actually?
01:57 --> 02:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Total coincidentally, you saw the name Randy, but what's the Randy Marsh meme from South Park?
02:02 --> 02:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Burn it down!
02:03 --> 02:06 [SPEAKER_02]: That, that.
02:06 --> 02:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was a nice thought and a nice memory and a nice idea of the 2026 Mariners season.
02:13 --> 02:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, it's over here on March the 10th.
02:16 --> 02:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'd like to congratulate all the people overreacting to all of this that have essentially now world up all of that energy and to Team USA losing to Italy tonight.
02:28 --> 02:30 [SPEAKER_01]: One of the biggest upsets in American baseball history.
02:31 --> 02:31 [SPEAKER_01]: Congratulations.
02:33 --> 02:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, we were talking pre-recording here.
02:36 --> 02:43 [SPEAKER_02]: We could honestly dedicate a few minutes to the whole debacle of Team USA because they're about to get knocked out of the tournament.
02:44 --> 02:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's save that.
02:45 --> 02:53 [SPEAKER_02]: We can spend a couple minutes on it before we get to our awesome interview with Ryan Healey, because there are some ripple effects to that that are just unfathomable.
02:53 --> 02:57 [SPEAKER_02]: But before we get to that, let's get to whatever we want to hear about first.
02:58 --> 03:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Cowrowy and Randy Rosarena, there is so much of this story that's been covered by the time you're listening to this podcast.
03:06 --> 03:07 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's funny.
03:08 --> 03:10 [SPEAKER_02]: How do we record this at separate times?
03:10 --> 03:13 [SPEAKER_02]: You probably would have gotten three separate reactions from the three of us.
03:13 --> 03:23 [SPEAKER_02]: If we had recorded this Monday night, we would have been laughing our asses off, reading every comment and saying how ridiculous people are for even giving this a second, a thought.
03:24 --> 03:33 [SPEAKER_02]: If we had recorded this Tuesday morning or early afternoon, we probably would have sat here and said, this is a little weird.
03:33 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_02]: it's not a well-intended joke from Randy, he did not make it like he didn't make it clear that he was kidding around and it is an odd time to be doing something like that ahead of the season.
03:47 --> 03:48 [SPEAKER_02]: but it's still not all that serious.
03:49 --> 03:56 [SPEAKER_02]: And now we're sitting here recording on Tuesday night after Cal, debunked the entire thing, shut it all down, said it's not a big deal, it's not a story.
03:57 --> 04:02 [SPEAKER_02]: To where we've more gotten back closer to phase one of this, where, yeah, like, I ain't worried about this.
04:03 --> 04:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I think we just needed people to come out and speak about the subject.
04:06 --> 04:09 [SPEAKER_01]: The only thing is, we still haven't heard from Randy yet.
04:10 --> 04:12 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what made this thing even worse?
04:12 --> 04:14 [SPEAKER_01]: team Mexico had a day off today.
04:14 --> 04:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So Randy didn't have to talk.
04:16 --> 04:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Randy essentially lights a fuse on Monday night after the U.S. beats Mexico and then walks away as the cake blows up.
04:25 --> 04:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And we don't have to hear from him until tomorrow.
04:28 --> 04:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so much of this is because there's a lot of different factors for this.
04:34 --> 04:44 [SPEAKER_01]: The number one thing is that it got caught on camera and it was easily reshared, very easily reshared, which is unfortunate, but that's what happened.
04:44 --> 04:45 [SPEAKER_01]: By the way, allow a fun fact.
04:46 --> 04:49 [SPEAKER_01]: This isn't even the first time that has happened in this tournament.
04:50 --> 04:54 [SPEAKER_01]: It happened between Australia and I think it was Team Japan or an exhibition.
04:55 --> 04:56 [SPEAKER_01]: One of those two.
04:56 --> 05:19 [SPEAKER_01]: in in Japan and that pool literally happened the guy walks up to the batter's box to the Australian catcher whose name I can't remember off the top of my head right now more pronounced extends the hand to shake his hand and you see the catcher looked down on his hand look back up and shake his head and say no but it looks very clear as day calmed and even do that cal just in a crouch
05:19 --> 05:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Cow was chillin, Randy just kind of has his arm out there a little bit, and then cow like Randy leans into here where cow's saying, but then that's it, and then they move on and then they play.
05:30 --> 05:36 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so of course it got very much blown out of proportion with this, but like Randy not talking today.
05:37 --> 05:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was a huge reason this got blown out of blown out of proportion, because we just didn't get to hear the other side, the person who started it.
05:50 --> 05:51 [SPEAKER_02]: help light the fire.
05:51 --> 06:02 [SPEAKER_02]: If all we got was that video of a non-hanshake, and there was no further context, and when Cal or Randy or anybody have been asked about it, they had just said, oh, it was nothing.
06:02 --> 06:03 [SPEAKER_02]: It was no big deal.
06:03 --> 06:03 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the end.
06:04 --> 06:06 [SPEAKER_02]: This wouldn't even be a remote story.
06:06 --> 06:08 [SPEAKER_02]: If you were just shrugged it off.
06:08 --> 06:12 [SPEAKER_02]: It's those, it's that video from Randy talking post game that lit it all on fire.
06:13 --> 06:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, again, let's be, let's be clear about this, because we're a few minutes into this podcast and haven't even directly said
06:19 --> 06:20 [SPEAKER_02]: We hope we've made it clear.
06:21 --> 06:23 [SPEAKER_02]: But TJ and I are not taking this seriously.
06:24 --> 06:24 [SPEAKER_02]: There's not a story.
06:25 --> 06:26 [SPEAKER_02]: The season is not over.
06:26 --> 06:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody's getting traded.
06:27 --> 06:33 [SPEAKER_02]: And there is not going to be internal turmoil as far as we're concerned in the Mariners Clubhouse existing throughout the year.
06:34 --> 06:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, and if there was, we would be shocked.
06:37 --> 06:38 [SPEAKER_02]: We would, we would be absolutely shocked.
06:39 --> 06:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Because think about this.
06:41 --> 06:45 [SPEAKER_02]: If Kalin Randea Rosarana had had some,
06:45 --> 06:50 [SPEAKER_02]: long-standing internal issues that are now all of a sudden coming out in the WBC.
06:50 --> 07:00 [SPEAKER_02]: If that was the case, don't you think we would have heard a lot more rumors about Randy getting traded this off season, a walk-year scout Boris client and a little bit of a polarizing player.
07:01 --> 07:10 [SPEAKER_02]: If there were internal turmoil issues with the de facto captain of the team, don't you think we would have heard more rumors that they might just ship them out of town?
07:11 --> 07:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Or would it just been traded, because since the manners aren't much of a rumor mill, they would have just shipped them out of town.
07:17 --> 07:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Well that too.
07:18 --> 07:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And everyone would have gotten there would have been immense backlash for me when like oh my god are they they cost cutting at it at it at it up but no it probably would have been oh this just doesn't really work for us.
07:28 --> 07:31 [SPEAKER_01]: With the Mariners have done it the past of players that don't fit their clubhouse.
07:31 --> 07:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Jesse Winker shipped right out of town when leaders like cow were like uh-uh like this dude ain't it the dude ain't it but Randy is one of those guys he's
07:43 --> 07:45 [SPEAKER_01]: But let's just lay it out straight.
07:45 --> 07:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean this and the most respectful way possible the Randy Rosarana.
07:48 --> 07:50 [SPEAKER_01]: This is his fault.
07:50 --> 07:53 [SPEAKER_01]: This is all, his fault, that this is a story.
07:53 --> 08:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Cow was just doing his job, squatting behind the plate, and a big game, by the way, huge thing of what happened if USA didn't win that game, they would be out right now.
08:03 --> 08:05 [SPEAKER_01]: They would, they would be eliminated right now.
08:06 --> 08:12 [SPEAKER_01]: So Cow's got to lock the fucking in behind the plate to win these games, these games clearly mean a lot to a lot of these guys.
08:13 --> 08:16 [SPEAKER_01]: And Randy's the one, walking up and shaking his hand.
08:18 --> 08:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I've seen a hand shake between a catcher and a batter during any sort of meaning vulgar.
08:25 --> 08:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I've ever seen it.
08:26 --> 08:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what they usually do?
08:28 --> 08:31 [SPEAKER_01]: You either, you tap on the shoulder, just like, hey, good to see you.
08:31 --> 08:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't even need to be a hard time.
08:32 --> 08:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Just a little finger brush.
08:34 --> 08:34 [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
08:35 --> 08:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Tip your cat.
08:37 --> 08:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Who the hell does that all the time to guys use bodies with, bond the plate?
08:40 --> 08:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Salvee for example, I think.
08:43 --> 08:57 [SPEAKER_01]: But Randy, Randy's holding his arm out like this, doesn't get a handshake, holds it there, and then after the game says what he said, like, come on, dude, what do you think?
08:58 --> 09:00 [SPEAKER_02]: How did he think that was gonna get interpreted?
09:00 --> 09:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Now I'll say this again.
09:03 --> 09:08 [SPEAKER_02]: If you watch the back half of that video, there's a lot of smiling going on from Randy Rosarena.
09:09 --> 09:18 [SPEAKER_02]: I know not at the start of the video, but there's a lot of smiling going on and it doesn't seem like he is legitimately mad to me when watching the back half of that video.
09:20 --> 09:27 [SPEAKER_02]: And I thought it was just going to be not a big deal, I was almost, I was almost just kind of laughing thinking to myself, oh, he's just messing around.
09:27 --> 09:31 [SPEAKER_02]: then some people started to interpret it and that's when things really got out of hand.
09:31 --> 09:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Because it wasn't just Randy speaking, it was Randy speaking and then people interpreting it.
09:36 --> 09:37 [SPEAKER_02]: And let's be clear.
09:37 --> 09:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Like TJ and I are not fluent in Spanish, we can't pick up all the mannerisms.
09:41 --> 09:42 [SPEAKER_02]: So there's only so much guessing we can do here.
09:43 --> 09:47 [SPEAKER_02]: But once it started to get translated, people started to freak out.
09:48 --> 09:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that is another part of this.
09:51 --> 09:57 [SPEAKER_01]: I think half the reason this is a huge story is because Randy did that post game interview in Spanish.
09:57 --> 10:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Which, and which again, you don't expect anything less of them.
10:00 --> 10:01 [SPEAKER_02]: It's his native language.
10:01 --> 10:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
10:02 --> 10:05 [SPEAKER_01]: And a large majority of, based American baseball fans,
10:05 --> 10:35 [SPEAKER_01]: or English speakers and don't speak Spanish so they can't pick up on things that Randy says there were people there were people in our comments are saying no no no no Randy was dead serious with what he was saying but then there were also people online josey Mcfly of of of John Boy was translating it and he didn't think it was he he had a little bit more of a mellow
10:35 --> 10:55 [SPEAKER_01]: But if Randy says, like, let me say this clearly, if Jaron Durane is the one beefing with Cal instead of Randy Rosarana, Jaron who was born in the United States and speaks English, we would be able to tell right away whether or not he was serious about giving Cal shit or if he was not serious about giving Cal shit.
10:55 --> 11:05 [SPEAKER_01]: But since Randy did it in Spanish, and we essentially have to hear it for all of us who don't speak Spanish, we have to hear that interpretation from someone else, we can't pick up on all the nuances.
11:06 --> 11:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope I said that right, like I know there are probably Spanish speakers in our audience who might have a little bit more perspective on this.
11:12 --> 11:18 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a moment where I wish I knew I had more Spanish speaking friends who could interpret this for me.
11:18 --> 11:36 [SPEAKER_02]: but like it just it just kind of hard force given that there's like this veil between us and Randy saying these words yeah there's a language barrier of course yeah because a lot of people in America are not fluent in Spanish I wish I was fluent in Spanish too by ever the time one dad love to go back and
11:36 --> 11:36 [SPEAKER_02]: learn it.
11:37 --> 11:46 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think Josie McFly made a good point with what he's talking about on Tuesday because he said, I really don't get why people think this is serious.
11:46 --> 11:51 [SPEAKER_02]: He said to him, Randy's definitely more tongue-tung-in-cheek than anything else in my opinion.
11:51 --> 11:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I understand them the way it translates, but if he and Cal didn't have a relationship of sorts, he probably wouldn't be speaking this way.
11:58 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_02]: He later said, the only way I see this is actual beef is if Cal Rally comes out and says he was actually offended by the comments, that is not
12:07 --> 12:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it hasn't happened, and it won't happen, and Kelle's already squashed it.
12:10 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_01]: The weirdest thing of all about this about Randy is he's like, just laying the praise on Kelle's parents at the beginning of that paragraph.
12:20 --> 12:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so some people interpreted that as, here's the precursor to, I'm actually mad at Cal Raleigh.
12:27 --> 12:32 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, oh, he has good parents, but, you know, then Randy said to go shove it up his ass.
12:34 --> 12:40 [SPEAKER_01]: But in any sort of beef scenario, if there's someone you're beefing with, why are you like hugging their parents?
12:40 --> 12:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever heard that before?
12:42 --> 12:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.
12:44 --> 12:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Especially, like, there's just Cow and Brandy don't have a lot in common.
12:50 --> 12:55 [SPEAKER_01]: They haven't even been in the same organization together for two years, less than two years.
12:55 --> 12:59 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't, their primary language is not the same.
13:00 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, Brandy's from Cuba.
13:03 --> 13:26 [SPEAKER_01]: of cows from North Carolina like very different so that yeah just why I would think that's like a little yeah if they were if they actually had beef and Randy was like oh I know the family but I'm beefing with cow right now like no in a hypothetical world you don't know guys that would happen with Logan Gilbert
13:27 --> 13:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Logan Gilbert had beef with cows like, oh, I love cows parents, but that dude's on my shit list right now.
13:32 --> 13:33 [SPEAKER_01]: He's even like my sinker.
13:34 --> 13:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
13:36 --> 13:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Again.
13:37 --> 13:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I think this should be about the last time we talk about this.
13:40 --> 13:43 [SPEAKER_02]: We've done a little bit of social media content about it the last couple days.
13:43 --> 13:45 [SPEAKER_02]: We're sitting here talking about it now on this podcast.
13:46 --> 13:50 [SPEAKER_02]: But I hope for everybody who has just ripped off insane comments.
13:51 --> 13:54 [SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, I don't even know why I'm bringing this up because we have awesome listeners.
13:54 --> 13:59 [SPEAKER_02]: And our listeners are not the ones that are putting all these ridiculous comments out into the world.
14:00 --> 14:07 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot of the people online that clearly cannot think straight.
14:07 --> 14:17 [SPEAKER_02]: So I will just say, speaking about the people that have ripped off these insane takes, I hope this is the last time we're talking about it, and it should be the last time we're talking about it.
14:18 --> 14:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Because unless it comes up again during the year, which I'm almost positive it won't, then this is water under the bridge, and it's over.
14:25 --> 14:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, like we've said from the start, this is a non-story.
14:37 --> 14:42 [SPEAKER_02]: There's another person saying to cut Cal Raleigh if the Mariners want a good culture.
14:42 --> 14:44 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, well, that'll certainly do the trick.
14:47 --> 14:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, what are we doing?
14:48 --> 14:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it amazes me, we all live in the same world because everybody is watching those same videos.
14:54 --> 14:56 [SPEAKER_02]: The video of the handshake and the video of Randy talking.
14:57 --> 14:58 [SPEAKER_02]: And there will be different opinions.
14:58 --> 15:05 [SPEAKER_02]: But how in the world do people have the opinion that watch the same video is everybody else that say,
15:05 --> 15:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Cowrowly has lost his mariner stripes and has to earn them back.
15:08 --> 15:11 [SPEAKER_02]: He's no longer a mariner, this commenter said.
15:11 --> 15:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Which is, again, one of the most confusing things I've seen from this, because Cow didn't do anything.
15:19 --> 15:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Look at, what did Cowrowy do in this scenario?
15:21 --> 15:24 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, there's people mad, he didn't shake his hand.
15:25 --> 15:29 [SPEAKER_02]: He squatted behind the plate, just he caught.
15:29 --> 15:35 [SPEAKER_01]: And then the day later said, there's nothing going on.
15:37 --> 15:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Do anything.
15:38 --> 15:43 [SPEAKER_02]: This and and that's the other full to that's the other piece of this whole puzzle, right?
15:45 --> 16:07 [SPEAKER_02]: To beef with Cal Rally Seems really odd and the national media seems to not have a grasp on that because again so many in the national media I have ridiculously blown this out of proportion But everybody that is in the Pacific Northwest and is a mariner fan and is tapped into the team and follows on the regular
16:07 --> 16:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, humble, calm, like well-rounded leaders, you can drop.
16:15 --> 16:18 [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't get too high for the moment.
16:18 --> 16:19 [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't get too low for the moment.
16:20 --> 16:22 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not like he's not an overly emotional guy.
16:22 --> 16:24 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a pretty stoic leader.
16:26 --> 16:30 [SPEAKER_02]: For Randy to get mad at him of all people, if, again, if he was mad.
16:32 --> 16:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Seems odd, man.
16:35 --> 16:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Very, very odd.
16:36 --> 16:37 [SPEAKER_02]: He's drama free.
16:38 --> 16:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Cow is drama free, yeah.
16:40 --> 16:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Cales had one instance of drama in his entire M.O.B.
16:43 --> 16:47 [SPEAKER_01]: career and he came up the next day and apologized.
16:47 --> 16:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, said drama, 2 percent warranted, 2 percent warranted, like a great, but then he came out and essentially squashed his own drama the next day.
16:57 --> 17:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Because somebody clearly forced him to apologize, whether it was the mariners or it was somebody in his own circle, they made him apologize.
17:05 --> 17:10 [SPEAKER_02]: For those who don't know what we're referencing, most of you probably do, it was at the end of 2023 when he called out ownership.
17:11 --> 17:14 [SPEAKER_02]: That's the only little debacle he's had in his whole career.
17:15 --> 17:17 [SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, everybody was on his side about that.
17:18 --> 17:20 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know what's the great thing about Cal?
17:20 --> 17:21 [SPEAKER_01]: He gets them to listen to him.
17:22 --> 17:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Because that's what leaders do.
17:24 --> 17:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Follow me, follow me into it and everyone has.
17:29 --> 17:33 [SPEAKER_01]: And like I've ran deep clearly does and so does everyone in the Mariners organization.
17:34 --> 17:38 [SPEAKER_01]: So you write of all people that this is stirred up forward to be with Cal.
17:38 --> 17:39 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like really?
17:40 --> 17:41 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, no.
17:41 --> 18:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, Cal Rally, we get to talk to that, you know, keep mentoring Luke Stephenson, all the pitchers love, all this stuff, that all the media members praise, all of us teammates praise, all of us peers throughout majorly baseball praise is this just grit and grinder.
17:59 --> 18:02 [SPEAKER_01]: And that would be what Randy does.
18:02 --> 18:02 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like that.
18:03 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_01]: It just doesn't make any sense.
18:04 --> 18:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I put a wager on Randy arose around and had to get into a scuffle with Brendan Donovan and Rob Reftsider before Cal Raleigh.
18:10 --> 18:12 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's not to say those guys are confrontational.
18:12 --> 18:12 [SPEAKER_02]: They're not.
18:12 --> 18:14 [SPEAKER_02]: They're just insanely hard workers.
18:14 --> 18:19 [SPEAKER_02]: But I put money on that before getting into a into something with Cal Raleigh.
18:19 --> 18:23 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like I think that's something the national media is totally missed in this story.
18:23 --> 18:25 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like this guy just
18:25 --> 18:33 [SPEAKER_02]: he's so drama free like like he is the one who wants no drama and anyway whatsoever he'll go out of his way to avoid it for the most part.
18:34 --> 18:35 [SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't make any sense.
18:36 --> 18:42 [SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, Randy Rosarana has had some level of this happened before in his career.
18:42 --> 18:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Because if you remember the Yandee Diaz thing back in Tampa, those two actually got into it.
18:49 --> 18:53 [SPEAKER_02]: Because there was an altercation in the parking line between those two back in Tampa.
18:54 --> 18:58 [SPEAKER_02]: And eventually it was clearly determined that they couldn't play together anymore.
18:58 --> 19:04 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm guessing that was part of the factor of why Randy was traded.
19:04 --> 19:07 [SPEAKER_02]: right because we rumored y'all need to see it all forever.
19:07 --> 19:08 [SPEAKER_02]: A lot of people did.
19:09 --> 19:15 [SPEAKER_02]: But this, yeah, I mean, to be with Cal odd, very odd.
19:16 --> 19:23 [SPEAKER_01]: As Ryan Davis put it, this whole bit doesn't even scratch the surface of stupidity of some of the other mariners things in the past.
19:24 --> 19:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Not only mentioned how Hasew's Montero threatened to swing a bat in the head of a scout because he sent an ice cream cone to the dugout as a way to signal that Hasew's Montero was fat and out of shape.
19:36 --> 19:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, so Mariners for any chises come a long way now against like Rest in PSA's who's Montero.
19:43 --> 19:44 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure it was a great guy.
19:44 --> 19:55 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just highlighting The story that was the story a scout sent an ice cream sandwich to the dugout Montero was pissed he came out with a bat Trying to scare the scout and that story was covered
19:56 --> 19:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Another thing with this whole thing.
19:58 --> 20:01 [SPEAKER_01]: We want this WBC to be the biggest thing possible.
20:01 --> 20:04 [SPEAKER_01]: We want this to be the world cup of baseball, which I think it is.
20:04 --> 20:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's well on its way to get there.
20:05 --> 20:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the timing of it is really the only thing holding out between being one of the premier spectacles watched across the world.
20:14 --> 20:27 [SPEAKER_01]: as these guys are, you know, building up that hype and building up this momentum in this this country pride that all these guys are playing for, you've got to take these games as serious as that, which the USA clearly did not tonight, but obviously.
20:28 --> 20:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, again, we will get to them.
20:30 --> 20:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Who's the US is number one rival in every sport except hockey internationally?
20:36 --> 20:36 [SPEAKER_01]: That'd be Mexico.
20:37 --> 20:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
20:38 --> 20:56 [SPEAKER_01]: and I feel like we want that sort of energy pitted towards this like Mexico is good at baseball they have good baseball players look at that team it's good it's good they are very very likely to now advance to the to the quarter-finals now getting good for them
20:57 --> 21:00 [SPEAKER_01]: It's more fun when you have international sports rivalries.
21:01 --> 21:06 [SPEAKER_01]: And to have these international sports rivalries, you have to have all the players taking it really seriously.
21:07 --> 21:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I don't blame Cal for not wanting to shake Team Mexico Randy's hand.
21:13 --> 21:14 [SPEAKER_01]: In the middle of the game, big game.
21:14 --> 21:17 [SPEAKER_01]: These guys clearly care a lot about this.
21:17 --> 21:19 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think they should treat it that way too.
21:19 --> 21:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe his team USA teammates, what have taken that is not offensive,
21:26 --> 21:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Like they'd be saying to them, lock in, why are you mingling with the opponent?
21:33 --> 21:53 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that for sure, but it's funny you've seen Aaron judge about his animated as you've ever seen him on a baseball field I mean Aaron judge is as milk toast white bread as you can draw up for his unbelievable players He is he never says anything you saw that speech he gave before the start of the term and it was awful But he's been on the field during this WBC and he hit that home run the other night.
21:54 --> 21:54 [SPEAKER_02]: He's screaming.
21:54 --> 21:55 [SPEAKER_02]: He's fired up.
21:55 --> 21:57 [SPEAKER_02]: He's yelling at the dugout
21:57 --> 21:59 [SPEAKER_02]: This means something to judge.
21:59 --> 22:01 [SPEAKER_02]: This clearly means something to a lot of guys.
22:02 --> 22:06 [SPEAKER_02]: And they're clearly taking these games very like pretty serious.
22:07 --> 22:10 [SPEAKER_02]: So maybe that was the message.
22:10 --> 22:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Like don't lock in.
22:13 --> 22:15 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's one more that really makes sense.
22:15 --> 22:16 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the pine tar thing.
22:16 --> 22:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Like Randy and these guys clearly
22:19 --> 22:44 [SPEAKER_01]: grip the fuck out of their handles of their bats and they're sticky stuff on there and if cow reaches out with his right hand shakes Randy a rosary in his batting glove takes a ball and throws it back to his picture and then the umpires like hey come here and their sticky stuff on his hand from the ball sent by Randy who gets in trouble for that now imagine that storyline because you remember who is pitching against Mexico, right?
22:45 --> 22:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, oh, Paul Schinz, imagine that storyline.
22:48 --> 22:51 [SPEAKER_02]: You thought this Randy Calthin got a lot of publicity?
22:52 --> 23:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Imagine the storyline of Cal Raleigh Shakespearean of Mariners teammate gets pintar on baseball, gets Paul Schinz ejected out of the game, U.S. eliminated from WBC.
23:02 --> 23:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Now imagine that storyline.
23:04 --> 23:07 [SPEAKER_01]: That would be a little bit messy.
23:07 --> 23:10 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the same little thing.
23:10 --> 23:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, guys, the ultimate conclusion of this is this is not serious.
23:15 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_02]: If you're a person that is still mad about this and wondering if this is going to destroy the Mariners Clubhouse culture and if Kalon Rand, you're going to have problems all year.
23:24 --> 23:32 [SPEAKER_02]: But no, like I obviously have not, like, texted caler Randy or either of us for that matter saying, hey, like you want to give us the load out on this, obviously not.
23:33 --> 23:38 [SPEAKER_02]: But I'm saying with pretty good confidence, this is not going to linger around all year.
23:38 --> 23:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of the USA potentially getting eliminated, that is a real possibility.
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24:50 --> 24:53 [SPEAKER_01]: The U.S. Lyle has, um, how would we like to put it?
24:53 --> 24:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Paint it themselves into quite a corner now?
24:56 --> 25:05 [SPEAKER_01]: They have all the drama going on, and Cal, this Cal Randy thing, seems to now be only a very small part of this team USA story.
25:06 --> 25:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll paint it like this.
25:08 --> 25:15 [SPEAKER_02]: The display that Team USA has put on in the world baseball classic is as close to NBA drama as we've ever seen in major league baseball.
25:16 --> 25:17 [SPEAKER_02]: It's that simple.
25:18 --> 25:19 [SPEAKER_02]: You want me to go through the pillars?
25:19 --> 25:20 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll go through the pillars.
25:21 --> 25:25 [SPEAKER_02]: You have the Cal and Randy situation that happens during the USA Mexico game.
25:25 --> 25:31 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not saying Cal was it fault, but the story certainly got out there and certainly made its round.
25:31 --> 25:32 [SPEAKER_02]: So there's point number one.
25:33 --> 25:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Point number two, you have Bryce Harper a few days ago, come out and make comments saying that
25:40 --> 25:46 [SPEAKER_02]: the WBC wouldn't hold the candle to the Olympics in terms of importance in the middle of the WBC.
25:47 --> 25:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Now look, I think those were blown out of proportion of it too.
25:51 --> 25:53 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think those should have been taken all that seriously.
25:53 --> 25:56 [SPEAKER_02]: I think Bryce Harper just knows how many eyeballs are on the Olympics, so I get it.
25:57 --> 26:02 [SPEAKER_02]: But it was still a story that still made its rounds and still was a distraction from on-field play.
26:03 --> 26:07 [SPEAKER_01]: And looks even worse if the US isn't even going to make it out of pool play.
26:07 --> 26:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, old takes expose is going to be tweeting those out if they lose or MLB images proceeding on fortune and events.
26:15 --> 26:19 [SPEAKER_02]: That account is going to be tweeting those harbor quotes out if they get eliminated.
26:19 --> 26:21 [SPEAKER_02]: And then you have the latter two.
26:22 --> 26:26 [SPEAKER_02]: You have taric scooble or should I just say Scott Boris because that too this really is.
26:26 --> 26:28 [SPEAKER_02]: So let's, let's scrub scoobles name from this.
26:29 --> 26:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Scott Boris made his clients start against great Britain of all teams, not Mexico or Italy, and as a result, because he put him up against an unserious opponent,
26:39 --> 26:51 [SPEAKER_02]: You didn't throw your best arms against the best teams in pool play and now you're going to get a limited or potentially get a limited and and then you have you have the you have the situation that unfolded or unless you're out to get to that.
26:51 --> 26:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I was I was still getting to it because four pillars here.
26:54 --> 26:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I've gotten to three Kalen Randy Bryce Harper.
26:57 --> 27:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Terriq school aka Scott Boris because that's who this really is.
27:02 --> 27:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Because just to finish up this thought.
27:05 --> 27:07 [SPEAKER_02]: If school had started against.
27:08 --> 27:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Italy and you kept schemes against Mexico or some tandem of those two starts in some combination against Italy in Mexico And then you have Logan Web and Nolan McLean start against the two teams that are not as good because those two are not as good as schemes in scuba This is not an issue right now.
27:24 --> 27:28 [SPEAKER_02]: There is no way Terri scuba would have given up eight runs two
27:29 --> 27:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Italy, or however many innings you would've pet you.
27:31 --> 27:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I can pray what a throwing 55 pitches and throwing four innings.
27:35 --> 27:38 [SPEAKER_02]: But regardless, no one McLean got knocked around in his start.
27:38 --> 27:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think schools give it up any runs to Italy if he's pitching against them.
27:42 --> 27:45 [SPEAKER_02]: No, with all of those lefties, that Italy line up is so left handed heavy.
27:45 --> 27:46 [SPEAKER_02]: You think they're hitting Terri Scooble?
27:47 --> 27:47 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
27:47 --> 27:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyway.
27:49 --> 27:57 [SPEAKER_02]: They mismanaged their, or they mismanaged their line up of their rotation for how it should have been used in pool play.
27:57 --> 27:58 [SPEAKER_02]: That's number three.
27:59 --> 28:03 [SPEAKER_02]: And the number four on a similar note, Mark Dorosa, man.
28:03 --> 28:05 [SPEAKER_02]: What the hell are you doing?
28:05 --> 28:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Like Mark Dorosa admitted on MLB network here on Tuesday.
28:11 --> 28:38 [SPEAKER_01]: that he thought the U.S. had already punched their ticket to the quarter finals and therefore was going to give guys days off and give against a righty on the mound he was going to sit lefty Bryce Harper at first base and put Paul Goldschmitt in the lineup and also against mighty righty Michael Lorenz and he's going to sit left-handed hitting Bryce Tarang and put Ernie Clemente in there dude
28:40 --> 28:44 [SPEAKER_02]: or any Clement and Paul Goldsmith were both starting in a essentially must win game.
28:46 --> 28:46 [SPEAKER_02]: What?
28:47 --> 28:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
28:48 --> 28:55 [SPEAKER_02]: And so Gunnar Henderson and Bobby Whitt both got days off during pool play, which is insane.
28:55 --> 28:57 [SPEAKER_02]: You have to get out of pool play.
28:57 --> 29:02 [SPEAKER_02]: For those two guys to not be playing every game, it's complete insanity.
29:02 --> 29:08 [SPEAKER_02]: If there's messaging from the Royals and the Orals that those guys can't be playing every day, I'd love to hear it publicly.
29:08 --> 29:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise, why in the world is Mark Dorosa, sitting one of those guys at any point in time.
29:14 --> 29:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Then finally puts the two in together against Italy here on Tuesday night, but then starts Paul Goldschmitt and Ernie Clement on the right side of the infield.
29:23 --> 29:24 [SPEAKER_01]: We forgot the worst one.
29:25 --> 29:26 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't start cow.
29:27 --> 29:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and that one's not good either.
29:29 --> 29:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, we'll Smith to be fair.
29:31 --> 29:35 [SPEAKER_02]: The drop off between Calon will Smith, especially offensively.
29:35 --> 29:40 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like, I mean, it's only, it's only like five war.
29:41 --> 29:42 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not, it's not, it's not, it's not.
29:42 --> 29:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Wow, it's okay, it's a big drop off, but we'll Smith is really good.
29:45 --> 29:46 [SPEAKER_02]: That's all I'm saying.
29:46 --> 29:46 [SPEAKER_01]: He is.
29:47 --> 29:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he is.
29:47 --> 29:51 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not, I mean, Paul Goldschmitt now is still like solid.
29:53 --> 29:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Also,
29:54 --> 30:22 [SPEAKER_02]: then on that same note is marked a row so the one picking this roster I think he is because you heard Gabe Spire talk about with us that he got the call from Dorosa and it's clearly him and some coaching staff and some other people that were picking this roster and if that if that's the case what the hell is going on look I hear Ernie Clement as supposed to be one of the nicest dudes in the game of baseball our friends over at gate 14 Johnny and Avery rave about him and he had an unbelievable postseason
30:22 --> 30:50 [SPEAKER_02]: But he was objectively a below average hitter last year by WRC plus below average as never had a season it worries in above average hitter in major league baseball not yet at least and you leave him not not just on the roster but playing over trade turner and some other guys over Nico Horner and then you have Paul Goldsmith who is just on his last leg in terms of his
30:51 --> 30:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Are you serious?
30:53 --> 31:06 [SPEAKER_02]: What is going on like there's it is abundantly clear other teams are taking this tournament a lot more seriously than the USA your manager who's an MLB network host doesn't know that you still have to win another game in pool play.
31:06 --> 31:13 [SPEAKER_02]: You've got a below league average hitter in Ernie Clement and a very, very seasoned veteran and Paul Goldsmith playing meaningful games.
31:14 --> 31:16 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have all the best players on the roster.
31:17 --> 31:25 [SPEAKER_01]: And then, but even despite all of that loudly still have the best roster, and me, can I read you this lineup that they lost you today?
31:25 --> 31:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm here is there is one guy in here.
31:29 --> 31:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I can confidently say, deserves to start every day in the major leagues in this Italy lineup.
31:36 --> 31:37 [SPEAKER_01]: It's Vinnie Pasquan, Tino.
31:38 --> 31:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you have John Birdie hitting second in this lineup.
31:42 --> 31:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Team Italy's first five hitters went over 22 today.
31:46 --> 31:49 [SPEAKER_01]: And Team USA lost.
31:49 --> 31:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
31:50 --> 31:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, this comes down to going back to Dorosa.
31:54 --> 31:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Why are skins and scoobles not penciled in to start against Mexico?
32:00 --> 32:00 [SPEAKER_02]: And it only.
32:01 --> 32:03 [SPEAKER_02]: You can start no one McLean against Great Britain.
32:03 --> 32:04 [SPEAKER_02]: You can start Logan Web against Brazil.
32:05 --> 32:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Those two guys have to be starting against the best two teams in pool play.
32:08 --> 32:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Now to be fair, that might be a Pirates and Tigers thing too, but that it comes back to the WPC as a whole.
32:15 --> 32:29 [SPEAKER_01]: If they're going to take it seriously, everybody, and I mean everybody from players, to managers, to owners, to GM's, the countries, et cetera, everybody needs to take it seriously.
32:29 --> 32:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
32:29 --> 32:31 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't do in the world cup.
32:32 --> 32:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, Messie's got to, uh, he's got a load manager a little bit.
32:36 --> 32:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, we're, we're just kind of worried that he's, he's not going to make as many starts as we want this upcoming year.
32:40 --> 32:45 [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe Argentina, maybe sit him for, uh, maybe sit him for the quarter finals.
32:45 --> 32:47 [SPEAKER_01]: You, you only let him play play 50 of the 90 minutes.
32:48 --> 32:56 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, maybe not the quarter finals because that's elimination play, but in pool play dude, I don't care if France is playing Trinidad and Tobago in pool play.
32:56 --> 32:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Killian and Bob A is not getting a game off.
33:00 --> 33:07 [SPEAKER_01]: But you probably wouldn't go to Henderson getting days off like what is that comes back to when they're playing this tournament.
33:08 --> 33:10 [SPEAKER_01]: They can't keep playing this tournament now.
33:10 --> 33:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, if they want to make it the world cup of baseball, it cannot keep being played here, cannot.
33:17 --> 33:28 [SPEAKER_01]: because we're dealing with insurance issues, which I don't think deals with the time of year, but I think that the players had a little bit less injury-risk by playing in the middle of the year, perhaps to get help a little bit more.
33:29 --> 33:33 [SPEAKER_01]: But then you won, also have teams being like, yeah, this is a cool idea, but...
33:34 --> 33:54 [SPEAKER_02]: No, listen, I understand if you play this tournament in July and the starting pitchers aren't going to go all out in terms of throwing 120 pitches in these tournaments, but if you're throwing 80 pitches and going five innings in these tournaments, that's a lot more serious than what's going on right now, because guys make five innings starts all the time during the summer in Major League Baseball.
33:54 --> 34:02 [SPEAKER_02]: If TerriX Google is going to throw 85 pitches and throw five innings in a July WBC game, I'll be totally okay with that.
34:02 --> 34:07 [SPEAKER_02]: But 55 pitches and three innings against great Britain come on.
34:07 --> 34:10 [SPEAKER_02]: And I did that and again, that's not Tarex school.
34:11 --> 34:13 [SPEAKER_02]: That's fucking come on Scott Boris.
34:14 --> 34:19 [SPEAKER_01]: You would get more buy in, I think, from everybody if that's when it was played.
34:19 --> 34:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
34:19 --> 34:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I totally like maybe you would get those guys to play it first in second base and be a little bit deeper than getting Ernie Clement and Paul Goldschmidt.
34:29 --> 34:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Very possible.
34:30 --> 34:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, man.
34:31 --> 34:34 [SPEAKER_02]: You hear those tray turner quotes before the WBC started.
34:34 --> 34:36 [SPEAKER_02]: He said, I never got the call.
34:36 --> 34:39 [SPEAKER_02]: I think tray turner would have played this man at a five and a half win season.
34:39 --> 34:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Hit 300 last years, still still in bases.
34:42 --> 34:45 [SPEAKER_02]: You tray turner is the star of the last WBC for the U.S.
34:45 --> 34:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Didn't get the call?
34:46 --> 34:48 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, they went with Ernie Clement.
34:48 --> 34:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Who again, really nice dude.
34:50 --> 35:01 [SPEAKER_02]: I would love the chance to talk to Ernie Clement at some point because I hear you supposed to be just awesome, but if we are just talking about laid-out facts of the value of players and who they've been on the field.
35:01 --> 35:02 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a trade-turner, man.
35:03 --> 35:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Think what are we doing?
35:06 --> 35:08 [SPEAKER_01]: We've learned a lot of things at a WBC law, haven't we?
35:10 --> 35:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
35:11 --> 35:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, this is as close to NBA drama as I've seen.
35:15 --> 35:18 [SPEAKER_02]: And I would love to know how these rosters are being picked out at this point.
35:18 --> 35:21 [SPEAKER_02]: How they're being picked out and how these align ups are being deployed.
35:22 --> 35:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Because it makes no sense for Bobby what to be sitting games.
35:25 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the only way now the U.S. can advance is if they allow, what is it?
35:31 --> 35:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's like it would be a three-way tiebreaker and they have to have the fewest runs allowed.
35:35 --> 35:38 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I thought if Mexico beats Italy,
35:38 --> 35:40 [SPEAKER_02]: They're the U.S. is still in now.
35:40 --> 35:46 [SPEAKER_01]: So Mexico, so Mexico needs to be Italy and then there's a three-way tie and then the tie record comes down to runs aloud.
35:48 --> 35:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
35:50 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's look.
35:52 --> 35:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's look at the pool place standings because I just want to make sure I get this right with the U.S. Yeah, so they're well, actually no.
35:58 --> 36:04 [SPEAKER_02]: If Italy wins, the U.S. is good because then Italy would be four now, the U.S. would be three and one, Mexico would be two and two.
36:04 --> 36:06 [SPEAKER_02]: If Italy wins, that's how the
36:06 --> 36:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
36:07 --> 36:16 [SPEAKER_01]: But if Mexico wins, then I would assume they take two of the top three in terms of runs allowed.
36:17 --> 36:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
36:18 --> 36:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think they need if if Mexico beats Italy, one,
36:29 --> 36:30 [SPEAKER_02]: bottom of the ninth inning.
36:30 --> 36:31 [SPEAKER_02]: They trail by one.
36:32 --> 36:33 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a runner on base.
36:33 --> 36:37 [SPEAKER_02]: All it really has to do is lock it down, close it out, and U.S. is going to the quarter finals.
36:38 --> 36:40 [SPEAKER_02]: And Randy arose the way to hit the walk off home run.
36:42 --> 36:47 [SPEAKER_01]: And then he comes to a celebration at home plate extends his hand and everyone goes, woo!
36:49 --> 36:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I did joke today that having cows should start doing that as their new home run celebration, just to do full commitment to the bit and start messing with everybody, maybe hilarious.
36:57 --> 36:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I think they will.
36:58 --> 36:59 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like they should.
36:59 --> 37:00 [SPEAKER_02]: That'd be great.
37:00 --> 37:02 [SPEAKER_01]: They'll be for really funny.
37:03 --> 37:05 [SPEAKER_02]: This was a very animated podcast.
37:05 --> 37:10 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't deny it because we have been sick of this Cal and Randy story.
37:10 --> 37:16 [SPEAKER_02]: It's driven us up a wall by this point and the some of the WBC stuff's driving us crazy And it doesn't make any sense.
37:16 --> 37:18 [SPEAKER_02]: So yes, we had a lot to get off our chest on this episode.
37:18 --> 37:24 [SPEAKER_02]: I would say our interview with Ryan Healey is much more tame and much more of the informative
37:25 --> 37:36 [SPEAKER_02]: vernacular and you're going to get to hear from him about not just his excitement to join the Mariners broadcast booth, but some of the knowledge he has is a player and some of the experience he now has coaching.
37:37 --> 37:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I got to tell you, I think he is going to be awesome in that booth.
37:40 --> 37:41 [SPEAKER_02]: Get into City here and talk to him.
37:41 --> 37:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's going to kill it.
37:42 --> 38:05 [SPEAKER_01]: He definitely knows his stuff, and I think a big cue with a lot of broadcasts, especially color commentators, is how do you deliver the message to people, are you cleaning concise, do you speak, and something that everything everyone can relate to, and just in our interview with him, I feel like I got a very good impression of how he's going to be, when talking about it, and it seems like he is tapping into the right resources to make himself as good as humanly possible.
38:06 --> 38:07 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to get a ton of games to start.
38:07 --> 38:12 [SPEAKER_01]: He said 12,
38:13 --> 38:24 [SPEAKER_01]: If he sounds as good as he did with us, I think he's going to get some more games, which will be fun for him and just sort of happy he's made it to transform himself into a, uh, to a little bit of a post career, which is kind of nice.
38:24 --> 38:27 [SPEAKER_01]: But don't want to keep that from you guys and we'll keep you any longer.
38:27 --> 38:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's get you to the interview with Ryan Healy.
38:32 --> 38:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, we got Ryan Healey on with us, former mayor and now current Mariners, Broadcast or Ryan, welcome, are you excited to be broadcasting games this year?
38:40 --> 38:46 [SPEAKER_01]: That's got to be a really, really cool thing to be back in the booth in a place where you had some success.
38:46 --> 38:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it kind of happened out of nowhere to be honest, but the minute I was asked, I said, yes, because why not?
38:52 --> 38:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Why not get a chance to go talk about some baseball?
38:54 --> 38:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And, I mean, selfishly, this team is pretty stacked.
38:57 --> 39:02 [SPEAKER_00]: Coming off of a great 2025 campaign and I can't get in the dugout and be on the team.
39:02 --> 39:04 [SPEAKER_00]: So if this is the closest I can get, then I will take it all day.
39:05 --> 39:06 [SPEAKER_00]: You do do some coaching though.
39:06 --> 39:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Did you think once you retire that majorly coaching might be an option for you?
39:12 --> 39:13 [SPEAKER_00]: might still be an option for me at some point.
39:14 --> 39:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know when or where.
39:15 --> 39:19 [SPEAKER_00]: For me, the priority that's been I got two young kids and I've wanted to stay close to them.
39:19 --> 39:25 [SPEAKER_00]: So getting a chance to coach on the amateur side and kind of do it a little differently has been a lot of fun.
39:25 --> 39:27 [SPEAKER_00]: It keeps me in the game as well and fills my bucket.
39:29 --> 39:29 [SPEAKER_02]: So what does that look like?
39:29 --> 39:32 [SPEAKER_00]: You're coaching all these days for those who don't know.
39:32 --> 39:36 [SPEAKER_00]: So I work with about 40 to 45 players at any given time.
39:37 --> 39:39 [SPEAKER_00]: My big focus is mental performance.
39:39 --> 39:43 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the piece of the game that I felt like lost me my career.
39:44 --> 39:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I mentally wasn't strong enough to handle the distractions, the adversity, the failure at the major league level.
39:50 --> 39:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Ever since I got non-tendered by the Mariners, after the hip surgery in 2019, was a lot of adversity, COVID going overseas.
39:58 --> 40:00 [SPEAKER_00]: and at some point the game just forgets about you.
40:00 --> 40:08 [SPEAKER_00]: And they always hold you at 7 a.m. spring training meetings that you're going to be a a former professional athlete a lot longer than your current professional athlete.
40:09 --> 40:12 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't think that in the moment, but that's what happened.
40:12 --> 40:17 [SPEAKER_00]: So when I got run out of the game, I ran away as far as I could want to find a way back into it.
40:17 --> 40:19 [SPEAKER_00]: and that's what I've been able to do.
40:19 --> 40:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Through the power of social media and marketing, I've been able to find a lot of players to help them with the mental side of the game, to prepare for adversity and failure, create routines around how to process and move forward.
40:31 --> 40:36 [SPEAKER_00]: And then obviously hitting is the vehicle, hitting is the vehicle and then the mindset is the driver.
40:36 --> 40:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I really like to focus on the driver and then we can find to the vehicle as we progress forward.
40:40 --> 41:01 [SPEAKER_01]: What what was the biggest piece of mental advice you think you've taken in like that you think you could have used your career that you've that your whatever when you're working with your consistently trying to pass down And ask that because I know we have a lot of perspective players high schoolers college kids that listen to this podcast and perhaps could use advice from someone who played as long as you did so what would that advice be
41:03 --> 41:09 [SPEAKER_00]: spending less energy on things and storylines that other people and my head might be creating.
41:10 --> 41:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Bottom line is I want to get down to what is true, what is actually happening in this moment.
41:14 --> 41:19 [SPEAKER_00]: And then how can I hold myself extremely accountable to the truth?
41:19 --> 41:31 [SPEAKER_00]: It limits some of the distractions that your brain is going to process, especially between social media, family friends that are coming to games, interjecting, different opinions that are in your club houses at times.
41:31 --> 41:34 [SPEAKER_00]: It's really easy to fall into those distractions.
41:34 --> 41:39 [SPEAKER_00]: For me though, I wanted to teach these young men how to be more accountable to what's truthful.
41:39 --> 41:44 [SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of it is setting your intentions on something specific that you have control over for that day.
41:44 --> 41:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to go get better at this today, okay?
41:47 --> 41:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to get distracted, I'm going to forget how to get myself back on that focus.
41:51 --> 41:59 [SPEAKER_00]: So set my intentions for the day, go execute at a high level, and then when I'm done, reflect on, what did I do well, what could I have done better, and then how am I going to do it?
42:00 --> 42:06 [SPEAKER_00]: To create that little bit day by day process of how I'm going to stack the small winds to ultimately reach the goal that you want.
42:07 --> 42:09 [SPEAKER_02]: How did you end up getting on social media?
42:09 --> 42:19 [SPEAKER_02]: I know we asked you a little bit about this pre-recording, but just to give people a little bit of behind the curtains, you said for a long time, I had no interest to be on social media.
42:19 --> 42:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Now you're sitting here making not just baseball content, but baseball content that's really good.
42:24 --> 42:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if for anybody listening that wants to go check out Ryan's stuff on social media, it's all across there.
42:29 --> 42:32 [SPEAKER_02]: So how did you end up deciding to fully commit to something like that?
42:32 --> 42:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I got bullied, I got bullied into it quite frankly.
42:35 --> 42:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I had my wife who was really pushing me to do it.
42:38 --> 42:43 [SPEAKER_00]: I had some other friends that were running small businesses that were starting to get on social media.
42:44 --> 42:51 [SPEAKER_00]: And when I saw what people would do to market themselves on social media, as a player, you get marketed all the time.
42:52 --> 42:54 [SPEAKER_00]: And most of it is not by choice.
42:54 --> 42:57 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to have this or that out there.
42:57 --> 43:01 [SPEAKER_00]: People with different platforms run with it and they can create whatever storyline they wanted.
43:01 --> 43:12 [SPEAKER_00]: At some point I decided if I wanted to maintain control of my time and my schedule to be present for my family, then I had to do the thing that I despise my whole life, which was market.
43:12 --> 43:20 [SPEAKER_00]: So I decided to start marketing myself, sharing some stories, and I felt like I had a lot of unique experiences that younger players could learn from.
43:21 --> 43:25 [SPEAKER_00]: Not just successes, like we talked about our home runs and stuff.
43:25 --> 43:26 [SPEAKER_00]: But it was the failures.
43:26 --> 43:35 [SPEAKER_00]: It was the moments where I was most vulnerable, and I didn't do things right, and I wish I could do it differently, but I couldn't, but I knew that I could help someone do it better.
43:36 --> 43:48 [SPEAKER_02]: So, when you were playing, and you were coming through the miners, and you had your time in the majors, I know the old school ways of what they tell you about being out in the public and being out on social media is,
43:48 --> 43:50 [SPEAKER_02]: They used to tell you to stay off it.
43:50 --> 43:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I remember, you know, in the 90s and 2000s or whatever era was the thing started to become much more media heavy.
43:57 --> 44:04 [SPEAKER_02]: teams would tell their players to, you know, give the most boring cliche answers you can possibly give to avoid any potential nightmares.
44:04 --> 44:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that what you were basically told and hammered home with when you were a player?
44:09 --> 44:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, and no.
44:10 --> 44:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Part of the reason why I feel that the opportunity to do analyst work with the Mariners is because I've always been articulate with the media.
44:17 --> 44:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I've always given answers that were real and given the emotions that I was feeling in that moment, whether they were good or bad.
44:23 --> 44:40 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a meaning I was, you know, outlandish and cursing and saying all these ridiculous things and pointing the finger at front office coaches, teammates, there was a fine line of respect and, you know, what that brotherhood was like in the clubhouse, but also I was allowed to tell my truth.
44:41 --> 44:47 [SPEAKER_00]: There was opportunities in my career to do that, to tell my story differently than others might have been portraying it.
44:47 --> 45:01 [SPEAKER_00]: But I was never afraid of the media and yeah, there was some boring cliché answers along the way for sure But most of it I felt like I was able to speak my truth So I didn't have to change much and I don't feel like I have to change much as I go on TV here soon
45:02 --> 45:07 [SPEAKER_01]: So because of that, you got to go head out to Mariners camp in Pioria where we were right after you.
45:07 --> 45:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure you got to observe a lot.
45:09 --> 45:16 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how closely you've been following the Mariners since you left the Mariners and now since you've gotten back into this role.
45:16 --> 45:20 [SPEAKER_01]: But from what you observed, what did you see down there in Pioria?
45:20 --> 45:39 [SPEAKER_00]: I felt like your the picture that you guys were painting of camp the first couple days before you dove into the player interviews and some of the media and the staff was perfect that was it was a light hearted, excited, eager camp that was just eager like, excited to be back together honestly.
45:39 --> 45:42 [SPEAKER_00]: There was a couple of comments that were interesting to hear.
45:42 --> 45:45 [SPEAKER_00]: I was actually in camp a little bit in 2025.
45:46 --> 45:56 [SPEAKER_00]: And this was the same exact week that Justin Turner came out and said, all these critics criticizing things about the front office and such, same day the George Kirby on the I.L.
45:56 --> 45:57 [SPEAKER_00]: for a shoulders injury.
45:58 --> 46:03 [SPEAKER_00]: So there was some heavy hearts and probably some earmuffs on and some blinders on in that clubhouse.
46:04 --> 46:06 [SPEAKER_00]: A couple of buddies that I played with that I got to talk with.
46:06 --> 46:16 [SPEAKER_00]: that the overarching theme was, these guys didn't want to talk to anybody and they were a little bit upset that everyone was saying that they needed to go get different players.
46:17 --> 46:19 [SPEAKER_00]: And every single player in that locker was saying, why not us?
46:20 --> 46:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Why aren't we good enough?
46:21 --> 46:24 [SPEAKER_00]: And there was a chip on their shoulder and they showcased that last year this year.
46:25 --> 46:32 [SPEAKER_00]: It was more about we've already proven to everyone what we're capable of doing, and we're also pretty salty that we didn't accomplish what our ultimate goal is.
46:33 --> 46:38 [SPEAKER_00]: So this year we're going to look what the ultimate goal is, dead in the face, and we're willing to accept that challenge.
46:40 --> 46:44 [SPEAKER_00]: But I do feel like the energy was lighter there than last year.
46:44 --> 46:52 [SPEAKER_00]: The media was everywhere, the fans were everywhere, like this is a place that you want to be right now at your baseball fan, especially Mariners fan.
46:53 --> 46:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Can we compare that to your time at Mariners Big League Camp in 2018 and 2019?
46:58 --> 46:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, what?
46:59 --> 47:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I have a more overarching question to that here in a second.
47:02 --> 47:04 [SPEAKER_01]: But how do those two camps compare?
47:04 --> 47:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Different cores, different managers?
47:07 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Pretty, it feels like kind of a different franchise, even though it's technically the same regime.
47:13 --> 47:17 [SPEAKER_00]: 2018 was star-studded, and the expectations were very high.
47:17 --> 47:19 [SPEAKER_00]: And...
47:19 --> 47:37 [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't live up the expectation of 89 games that year, and then obviously that was the year that everything got dismantled I felt like in 2018 though the goal was pretty clear of a world series like that was the conversations in the clubhouse, and it was more about We have a lineup and a roster full of absolute superstars.
47:37 --> 47:40 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't have to be Extraordinary as individuals.
47:40 --> 47:42 [SPEAKER_00]: We need to be extraordinary as a team
47:42 --> 47:49 [SPEAKER_00]: It didn't happen, a lot of underlying things and long sees and unfolds, some storylines and opinions and things that actually happened.
47:50 --> 47:54 [SPEAKER_00]: 2019 was a complete rebuild year, and that was very clear.
47:54 --> 48:02 [SPEAKER_00]: It made some acquisitions that actually stuck, like JP Crawford was part of that acquisition process, of Gene Sagarra going over to the fillies.
48:02 --> 48:03 [SPEAKER_00]: So that was interesting.
48:03 --> 48:06 [SPEAKER_00]: He's stuck there, he's been a leader of that team.
48:06 --> 48:07 [SPEAKER_00]: But it was a lot quieter in 2019.
48:08 --> 48:11 [SPEAKER_00]: The only reason why it was probably loud is because each hero was there.
48:11 --> 48:13 [SPEAKER_00]: And each hero was there, I believe, in 18 as well.
48:14 --> 48:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And then 19 leading up to the Japan series, we all knew he was going to retire, but it wasn't confirmed.
48:21 --> 48:22 [SPEAKER_00]: So there was a lot of buzz and then going to Japan.
48:23 --> 48:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Woo!
48:24 --> 48:28 [SPEAKER_00]: That felt like a similar buzz to what I was feeling this spring.
48:29 --> 48:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what was that like when you guys went over to Japan?
48:31 --> 48:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to sidetrack too much, but I remember that whole 2019 team when he came off the field in the middle of the game, like everybody had tears flowing down their eyes.
48:41 --> 48:44 [SPEAKER_02]: What were you going through as you're watching that?
48:44 --> 49:12 [SPEAKER_00]: just kind of in shock to be honest just obviously the setting the location of being in the Tokyo dome the opportunity to go back there and I remember D Gordon was talking to me about how he's like you think Michael Jordan's a big deal in the States like wait till you eat to see each eros azuki in Japan and like you walk around he's on every bus stop and every building every billboard everywhere you look at each euro similar to what I would imagine show hey it's found been a Japan sense but similar to that that type of stardom
49:12 --> 49:18 [SPEAKER_00]: And the people lined up at the hotel were staying at, like you couldn't walk anywhere without someone chasing you down for autographs.
49:19 --> 49:22 [SPEAKER_00]: The fans that would be in there for batting practice was unbelievable.
49:22 --> 49:26 [SPEAKER_00]: And just the moment of him walking off the field, you kind of knew it was coming.
49:26 --> 49:29 [SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to transition from third base to first base during that.
49:30 --> 49:40 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm like kind of in and out of the dugout trying to get my different glove and just trying to stay out of the way, but also go hug each hero and I'm watching you say,
49:40 --> 49:41 [SPEAKER_00]: What is happening right now?
49:41 --> 49:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, we all kind of sat in the clubhouse afterwards.
49:43 --> 49:47 [SPEAKER_00]: We went to the press conference, just to kind of get to see that live.
49:47 --> 49:50 [SPEAKER_00]: We're all kind of sharing the beer and the locker and just like, what just happened?
49:51 --> 49:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, how is that real life and how do we get to witness that?
49:54 --> 49:55 [SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
49:55 --> 50:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's wild, but what's probably even wilder is, I guess, to the media people that are out and see it every day, it feels like each hero never left because he's out there every single day, just taking, taking balls in the outfield and playing catch and stretching, it's amazing.
50:11 --> 50:13 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like he'll never quit the game.
50:14 --> 50:16 [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's, it's a lifestyle for him.
50:16 --> 50:20 [SPEAKER_00]: I got to see him actually when I was over there in Mariners' camps, I got a chance to catch up with him a little bit, so that was nice.
50:21 --> 50:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Very cool.
50:21 --> 50:29 [SPEAKER_01]: How do you think the Mariners are different organizationally from when you were there in 2019 and they had a bunch of stars and the expectations are really high.
50:29 --> 50:38 [SPEAKER_01]: We're now in 2026 sort of the general premise of that feels the same, but it's, they got there in a totally different way.
50:38 --> 50:39 [SPEAKER_01]: So I do feel like it's different.
50:39 --> 50:45 [SPEAKER_00]: player development, they, they restructured that entire organization from the ground up.
50:45 --> 50:54 [SPEAKER_00]: And I felt like the major league side is probably where the fan saw at least, but from the front office and coaching side, they were really invested in the player development.
50:54 --> 51:03 [SPEAKER_00]: The draft picks that they were choosing at that time, people, there was a little bit smaller schools, guys that no one really knew and it was interesting, so the guys the big league level, they have opinions.
51:03 --> 51:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a scout.
51:04 --> 51:05 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
51:06 --> 51:11 [SPEAKER_00]: But you see, one of them was Gilbert, like all the sudden he shows up and you see what he bends up being a big league.
51:11 --> 51:13 [SPEAKER_00]: You're like, maybe they know they're doing.
51:13 --> 51:20 [SPEAKER_00]: They were so focused on the pitching side of player development and they do such a tremendous job of it by their starting rotation right now.
51:20 --> 51:22 [SPEAKER_00]: How that's demonstrated.
51:22 --> 51:27 [SPEAKER_00]: And they've obviously done a great job with their offensive production, and the way that they're developing players now.
51:27 --> 51:39 [SPEAKER_00]: That was not always a strength of theirs, but they have a top, I believe, five minor league organization for a reason, is because they can develop and backload a little bit of the superstars they have in the big leagues now with the prospects coming up.
51:40 --> 51:48 [SPEAKER_02]: From your perspective, if this Mariners team with all that being said is going to have the season that they have aspirations to go out and have.
51:48 --> 51:49 [SPEAKER_02]: What's going to be the reason?
51:50 --> 51:51 [SPEAKER_00]: think it's the same answer.
51:52 --> 51:57 [SPEAKER_00]: The prospects are going to need to plug holes throughout the course of the long season, especially in a rotation.
51:58 --> 52:03 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't expect these five guys to be healthy all year long and throw 200 in plus.
52:03 --> 52:05 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not what the game of baseball is today.
52:05 --> 52:10 [SPEAKER_00]: So who is going to step up to be that depth when needed and then also in the offensive side?
52:10 --> 52:16 [SPEAKER_00]: and you got JP Crawford who's a bum shoulder right now, and believe Cold Emerson is getting a ton of reps right now at short stop.
52:16 --> 52:18 [SPEAKER_00]: So, where does he plug in at some point?
52:18 --> 52:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Does he make the team out of camp?
52:20 --> 52:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Or is he a guy that's waiting in AAA?
52:22 --> 52:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Their prospect internal depth is going to provide a ton of leverage for this team, whether they fulfill or fill voids during the season, or if they're able to be trading chips to bring in another big, or kind of like the dead last season.
52:35 --> 52:48 [SPEAKER_02]: I do want to ask you a little bit about your broadcasting and you getting into this role, which, again, is pretty new for those who are just learning about Ryan's media career and learning about his time with the Mariners, which he's about to enter this year.
52:48 --> 52:55 [SPEAKER_02]: He's going to do a handful of games on Mariners' broadcast this year, which is one of many reasons why we wanted to have him on to talk about with us.
52:55 --> 53:06 [SPEAKER_02]: What are you most looking forward to and what challenge do you think you're most, you know, anticipating that you're going to have to take on entering a role that's pretty new for you?
53:07 --> 53:19 [SPEAKER_00]: The challenge is going to be how do I get all the information that I want to in the proper amount of words because the time crunch is so different on TV for at least when I've heard I haven't done it, I'll find out next week.
53:20 --> 53:28 [SPEAKER_00]: The thing I'm most looking forward to is learning from such an experienced professional in vet at this face of Aaron Goldsmith.
53:28 --> 53:30 [SPEAKER_00]: He is tremendous at what he does.
53:30 --> 53:34 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm going to lean on him a ton for feedback, and I've had to accept.
53:34 --> 53:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to be great at this right away.
53:36 --> 53:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they're expecting me to or not, but I know I won't be.
53:40 --> 53:46 [SPEAKER_00]: The question is, is how quickly can I get the right feedback, make adjustments, and improve the experience for the fans?
53:47 --> 54:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Because this isn't about me, this isn't the Ryan Healey show, this is how can I make sure the fans watch the games we're having a great experience, and I'm also offering insight into specific moments of the game that they maybe would not have noticed or don't understand to the extent that I do as someone that stood in the box.
54:05 --> 54:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Have they been any other like baseball color announcers you have since you got you since you've agreed to do the games went back and started and see how they've done it
54:18 --> 54:21 [SPEAKER_00]: I watch a lot of guys right now.
54:21 --> 54:23 [SPEAKER_00]: Some guys get my attention more than others.
54:23 --> 54:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I think John Smoltz is probably the best out there doing it.
54:26 --> 54:27 [SPEAKER_00]: He's unbelievable.
54:29 --> 54:37 [SPEAKER_00]: You talk about Adam Wayne right, and again, AJ Presinsky, they've been in a three-man booth the WVC for a couple of the USA games, fun to listen to that.
54:39 --> 54:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, I listen to Goldie a lot.
54:41 --> 54:43 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of other names that come to mind, but...
54:44 --> 55:03 [SPEAKER_00]: I love the offensive perspective, and I feel like the players or the analysts that I've listened to so far give more of the pitching perspective, so I'm interested to see how I can intertwine the offensive perspective in the overall game planning that bullsides go through in the preparation side of it and then how they're actually executing it on the field.
55:03 --> 55:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm curious to one thing about the 2018 season ride, because 2018, if you think of it from the perspective of Maritor Fan, like Maritor's fan that Low and I were back then, we were 20 slash 21 years old at this point.
55:15 --> 55:24 [SPEAKER_01]: We had never seen a postseason game at this, they'd had a drought throughout all of our waking memorable years of our lives at this point.
55:24 --> 55:28 [SPEAKER_01]: You guys got off to such an amazing fast start that year.
55:28 --> 55:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I think you were what, 56 and 32 in July.
55:32 --> 55:34 [SPEAKER_01]: and then ended up missing the playoffs.
55:34 --> 55:36 [SPEAKER_01]: We were frustrated as Mariners fans.
55:37 --> 55:38 [SPEAKER_00]: How was it as a player?
55:39 --> 55:40 [SPEAKER_00]: frustrating.
55:41 --> 55:48 [SPEAKER_00]: We knew we were capable of not just because we proved it in the first half of the season, but because we knew the bodies that we had in that locker room.
55:49 --> 55:56 [SPEAKER_00]: There was so much depth in the starting rotation, maybe not superstars, but depth, guys that could go out there and compete and give us a shot.
55:57 --> 56:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I know Paxon missed a large chunk of that second half, which was a dagger for us.
56:01 --> 56:02 [SPEAKER_00]: He was a big leader.
56:02 --> 56:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we also kind of knew what was coming quite frankly with how that season ended.
56:09 --> 56:11 [SPEAKER_00]: I was on the flip side in 2016.
56:12 --> 56:19 [SPEAKER_00]: We played the Mariners in Seattle for a four game set, and I think the M's had to win two out of four or three out of four to go to the playoffs, do you remember that?
56:20 --> 56:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you guys knocked him out, that game 161 was nuts.
56:24 --> 56:25 [SPEAKER_02]: You guys took the lead, the A's being.
56:26 --> 56:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Nelson Cruz hits that three run Homer, he ties it, I remember being Ben Gamel retided in the eighth inning, and then they lost an extra.
56:32 --> 56:37 [SPEAKER_02]: And at that point, that was basically the closest thing we'd seen to the Mariners getting into the playoffs.
56:37 --> 56:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I remember being heartbroken that night.
56:38 --> 56:42 [SPEAKER_02]: We were freshman in college, brand new into college, like a month in.
56:42 --> 56:49 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm probably like getting noise complaints throughout my hall and our dorm, because I was furious after you guys won that night, the A's.
56:49 --> 56:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, believe me.
56:50 --> 56:57 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember every detail of that game we were playing home record that week and we had nothing to play for to be honest I mean we knew our season was over.
56:57 --> 57:16 [SPEAKER_00]: My flight was probably already booked from Seattle to LA to go home for the off season But we liked playing spoiler and I felt I felt the repercussions of it though in 2018 when we just missed at the end and It felt like that was a reoccurring theme for this organization obviously 22 they're able to push through go to playoffs, but didn't go as far as they could and then
57:16 --> 57:17 [SPEAKER_00]: 25.
57:17 --> 57:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what a dream.
57:18 --> 57:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Like the what they did throughout every stage.
57:21 --> 57:24 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the game five of the DS was probably the most nerve-racking thing.
57:24 --> 57:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't go to bed to want to clock, but like it it seems like okay, maybe that that barriers push down.
57:30 --> 57:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's take the next step.
57:32 --> 57:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And one last thing I want to ask you about Ryan from a player's perspective given that we will talk about this before this interview airs on this podcast, but I wanted to get your perspective on this as well.
57:42 --> 57:51 [SPEAKER_01]: We had just watched this, it what seemed to be blown out of proportion interaction between Cal Rally and Randy Arrows Arena happened during the WBC.
57:52 --> 57:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Cal came out and said it was nothing.
57:55 --> 57:58 [SPEAKER_01]: But on the field, right, he's not like fist bumping him.
57:58 --> 57:59 [SPEAKER_01]: They're competing against each other.
58:00 --> 58:02 [SPEAKER_01]: What is it like on that field?
58:02 --> 58:05 [SPEAKER_01]: If you're competing against someone, you'll play with for the rest of the year.
58:05 --> 58:08 [SPEAKER_01]: But once the game has started, you're totally locked in.
58:08 --> 58:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So like, what goes through your head in that moment?
58:11 --> 58:14 [SPEAKER_00]: I never had that type of situation.
58:14 --> 58:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I do know that there are certain catchers in the league, and there were a lot of catchers at my time as well.
58:20 --> 58:26 [SPEAKER_00]: You don't look them, you don't talk to them, you don't tap them on the shin guard with the bat, like absolutely not.
58:26 --> 58:34 [SPEAKER_00]: It's obviously a little funny, like, I think I saw Mark Doros' reaction was like, oof, oof, like that was tough, like I almost jumped the watch.
58:34 --> 58:39 [SPEAKER_00]: He probably felt the tension in that moment, but as if I'm cow, like, I'm so locked into the game.
58:40 --> 58:41 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't care who you are walking up.
58:41 --> 58:48 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and I hope that Randy and him are able to move past this on a personal level in the locker room, because nobody needs this.
58:48 --> 58:52 [SPEAKER_00]: But this is also like the first dose of adversity the mariners of face, the spring training.
58:52 --> 58:55 [SPEAKER_00]: It's been roses and sunshine up to this point.
58:55 --> 59:01 [SPEAKER_00]: So if this is the first dose of reality of, hey guys, this is the first thing to go wrong in a very long season where many things will go wrong.
59:02 --> 59:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see how we respond to this because there is more stuff coming.
59:07 --> 59:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me ask you one final question about your broadcasting before you, before we wrap this up.
59:12 --> 59:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, actually quick before I get to the final question, for those who don't know as well, what have you done in media besides your own content prior to now putting on the headset for the Mariners?
59:22 --> 59:26 [SPEAKER_00]: So I've done some work with MLB network radio and series XM.
59:26 --> 59:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I had a chance as well, local radio station in Seattle, KJR brought me on.
59:31 --> 59:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Out of the blue, I reached out to a bunch of stations asking if they just wanted a full-web big leader to do some hits on the radio show.
59:37 --> 59:43 [SPEAKER_00]: did a couple went well and they actually had me cover the in mariners or the entire posties in doing analyst work.
59:43 --> 59:46 [SPEAKER_00]: So I was on with them four or five days a week, which was so fun.
59:47 --> 59:52 [SPEAKER_00]: And for me, the MLB network stuff is amazing, getting to watch the entirety of the major leagues.
59:53 --> 59:56 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of work following 30 teams and trying to remember all those names.
59:56 --> 01:00:05 [SPEAKER_00]: But following one team and knowing those players and seeing the roles unfold, the bullpen situations or when a name's going to come in, the pinch hitter that's going to show up.
01:00:05 --> 01:00:07 [SPEAKER_00]: You know who's
01:00:07 --> 01:00:13 [SPEAKER_00]: There was a lot of new ones that came back of like I feel like I'm emotionally tied to this team.
01:00:13 --> 01:00:17 [SPEAKER_00]: And I felt the highs and lows that I haven't felt since I was a player.
01:00:17 --> 01:00:21 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's most of what I've done along with the social media work and it's been a lot of fun.
01:00:22 --> 01:00:33 [SPEAKER_02]: And my, okay, so my final question is, for those who are gonna turn on the TV and get to hear you this year, throughout the games that you're gonna broadcast, what do you hope that you're gonna bring to the audience?
01:00:33 --> 01:00:36 [SPEAKER_00]: An understanding of why something happens.
01:00:37 --> 01:00:42 [SPEAKER_00]: from the hitters perspective, from a defender's perspective, from a former player's perspective.
01:00:43 --> 01:00:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to bring in a simplified understanding of why something happened in the game, that a fan might sit there and say, why did he do that?
01:00:51 --> 01:00:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Or why didn't he swing at that pitch?
01:00:52 --> 01:00:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Or why did he chase that pitch?
01:00:54 --> 01:01:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Give them a better understanding of why things might happen, and also the perspective that this game is really really hard.
01:01:00 --> 01:01:06 [SPEAKER_00]: And I promise you these guys don't always love it, but we choose the monster that we know.
01:01:06 --> 01:01:13 [SPEAKER_00]: And part of the joy of it is if I didn't fail all the time, then why would I enjoy this success as much?
01:01:14 --> 01:01:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, let me say this, and I fully mean it.
01:01:16 --> 01:01:18 [SPEAKER_02]: I think you're gonna crush it on these broadcasts.
01:01:18 --> 01:01:18 [SPEAKER_02]: I do.
01:01:18 --> 01:01:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Just sitting here and getting to pick your brain for the last 20, 25 minutes or so, I think you're gonna like bring a ton to these broadcasts.
01:01:25 --> 01:01:26 [SPEAKER_02]: I appreciate that very much.
01:01:27 --> 01:01:28 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, and this has been great.
01:01:28 --> 01:01:29 [SPEAKER_01]: We appreciate you taking some time for us.
01:01:29 --> 01:01:31 [SPEAKER_01]: We look forward to seeing you out here in Seattle.
01:01:31 --> 01:01:32 [SPEAKER_01]: It'd be great.
01:01:32 --> 01:01:35 [SPEAKER_01]: So I look forward to having you with the Mariners this year and can't wait to hear you on TV.
01:01:36 --> 01:01:38 [SPEAKER_01]: DJ Lyle, look forward to meeting you guys in person as well.
01:01:41 --> 01:01:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, shout out to Ryan Healey, that was a blast.
01:01:44 --> 01:01:47 [SPEAKER_02]: I really think he is going to be awesome, broadcast in these Mariners games.
01:01:47 --> 01:01:50 [SPEAKER_02]: So hopefully you guys got to learn a little bit more about him through that interview.
01:01:51 --> 01:01:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully you guys enjoyed it.
01:01:52 --> 01:01:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm fired up to listen to him on these broadcasts because I really, really think he's going to be a perfect fit.
01:01:58 --> 01:02:02 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think you're going to learn a lot from him when you watch these games.
01:02:02 --> 01:02:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I will say this one thing TJ, but before we start to wrap things up,
01:02:05 --> 01:02:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank god baseball is back.
01:02:07 --> 01:02:22 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean seriously thank god for as much as we've been animated throughout this podcast in January When we had nothing to do but call Brendan Donovan name redacted before he was traded to the mariner's we would have we would have been over the moon for podcast episodes like this
01:02:22 --> 01:02:24 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just harder to get fired up for the off season.
01:02:25 --> 01:02:32 [SPEAKER_01]: There's not games being played, but we haven't had conversations like this since October, which it truly means the baseball season is back.
01:02:32 --> 01:02:35 [SPEAKER_01]: And I love Spring Training Storylines and Spring Training is exciting.
01:02:35 --> 01:02:37 [SPEAKER_01]: It offers a lot of hope for this upcoming season.
01:02:37 --> 01:02:48 [SPEAKER_01]: But, I mean, just off of the perspective like while these WBC games are going on, like the spring training games themselves are a nothing burger for the most part.
01:02:48 --> 01:02:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Like St. Bren and Davis hit tanks is cool, but I, you know, getting some drama instead is better.
01:02:55 --> 01:03:00 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, from one to carry carpenter, how far it up was I during this episode.
01:03:03 --> 01:03:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Six and a half.
01:03:05 --> 01:03:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I feel it's about right like I definitely had some fire.
01:03:09 --> 01:03:12 [SPEAKER_02]: There's definitely stuff I wanted to talk about But but you still have your voice.
01:03:13 --> 01:03:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I still have my voice.
01:03:14 --> 01:03:17 [SPEAKER_02]: I still put it in that range But everybody listening leave it in the comments too.
01:03:18 --> 01:03:27 [SPEAKER_02]: One to carry carbon or how far it up or way on this episode you can let us know Carry carbon or yeah, I did I did lose my voice.
01:03:27 --> 01:03:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I did lose my voice at the game a little bit reminder use a code 2k
01:03:32 --> 01:03:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, for anybody at the ballpark this year.
01:03:34 --> 01:03:36 [SPEAKER_02]: It's still wants to see the video.
01:03:36 --> 01:03:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Some people that's bringing training did ask about it and it fanfets this year and we did show some people.
01:03:41 --> 01:03:42 [SPEAKER_02]: But you got to say the code word in person.
01:03:43 --> 01:03:46 [SPEAKER_02]: So all right, that just about wraps up this edition of the Marine Lair podcast.
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