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00:00 --> 00:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to episode number 380 of the Marine Lair podcast.
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01:06 --> 01:20 [SPEAKER_00]: And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just baseball podcast network recording here on Sunday evening March 22nd if you're watching on YouTube you already know, but to you on the audio, you don't have to complain anymore.
01:20 --> 01:22 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a new intro.
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01:39 --> 01:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it looks great people have been chit like Chomping at the bit for a new one.
01:44 --> 01:44 [SPEAKER_01]: They've been ask it.
01:44 --> 01:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like every episode.
01:45 --> 01:47 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, hey, can you guys update this?
01:47 --> 01:48 [SPEAKER_01]: update it.
01:49 --> 02:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it looks pretty good got some updated calls on there we got the updated graphics it gave me gave me goose bumps watching that some of the best mariners moments and if it is giving you goose bumps that means you knocked out of the park So there we go.
02:02 --> 02:04 [SPEAKER_00]: We got it no more complaining.
02:04 --> 02:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I know shout out our body vector.
02:06 --> 02:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Seriously, but I don't know it'll be no more complaining.
02:09 --> 02:12 [SPEAKER_01]: This is, you know, this is online content you're talking about.
02:12 --> 02:14 [SPEAKER_00]: There's always complaining
02:14 --> 02:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there'll be some complaining about these season predictions.
02:17 --> 02:18 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to those here in a second.
02:18 --> 02:24 [SPEAKER_00]: We do have a couple of housekeeping things to take care of from a mariner's perspective, and a content perspective.
02:24 --> 02:25 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess let's start with this.
02:25 --> 02:32 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just remind people, since opening day is this week, while I will be at opening day, we'll be at the first six games this year.
02:32 --> 02:36 [SPEAKER_00]: So if you want to come see us early as pre-game in the first six games, you want to see us?
02:36 --> 02:39 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll be at the ballpark all weekend in the next week.
02:39 --> 02:42 [SPEAKER_00]: That'll be a good place to come say,
02:42 --> 02:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Chop up, talk about the Mariners, talk about baseball, talk about whatever will be there.
02:47 --> 02:55 [SPEAKER_00]: But Thursday specifically, as we mentioned on Friday's podcast, we're doing event with our friends at the Hall and our friends at Corona at Oxygenal Hall.
02:55 --> 02:56 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a two-part event.
02:56 --> 02:59 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be some pre-game, some post game.
02:59 --> 03:13 [SPEAKER_00]: The pregame event will run from 5 to 7pm, there will be some giveaways, there will be some content opportunities, there's an opportunity to have some great food and drink at the hall, and then after the game, we're going to tape our Friday podcast live from Oxdental Hall.
03:13 --> 03:17 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll be upstairs on that second floor, taping that episode.
03:17 --> 03:22 [SPEAKER_00]: and there's seats there for people to sit and watch and listen, the production happen.
03:22 --> 03:34 [SPEAKER_00]: That'll be a pretty cool opportunity if you want to see what an episode of the Marine Lair podcast is like, that will be happening Thursday, post game of opening day and will probably just be talking about the game, hopefully it's entertaining.
03:34 --> 03:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully the murders don't lose like 15 to one.
03:36 --> 03:43 [SPEAKER_00]: We get on there as like, well, it's a lot of so we rank our 15 worse things that happen on opening day today.
03:44 --> 03:46 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll probably just say seasons over.
03:47 --> 03:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we probably will.
03:48 --> 03:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's happening on Thursday.
03:50 --> 03:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so seriously, if you want to watch the podcast, tape post game, and we'll be hanging out to post game.
03:56 --> 03:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Like when we're done, we'll be hanging out with people.
03:58 --> 04:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Before hand, we're setting up, we'll be hanging out with people.
04:00 --> 04:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Just like we will pre-in.
04:02 --> 04:05 [SPEAKER_01]: But walk upstairs, come on over to the Hall on Oxidental.
04:05 --> 04:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, so on Oxidental Avenue, it's right across the street from Lumenfield.
04:08 --> 04:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Walk up stairs and that's where we'll be taping the podcast post game and there's room up there for a lot of people to come sit and hang out So it'll be it'll be really fun and if the Mariners make a bullpen decision that loses them the game.
04:20 --> 04:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll probably be fired up on opening night Second bit of housekeeping news this one from a Mariners respect a couple little Mariners notes coming out over the weekend that we said touch on You pointed this out to me this morning and it seems right now
04:36 --> 04:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we have our Mariners rotation order to start the season.
04:40 --> 04:43 [SPEAKER_00]: So here's how the Mariners dialed it up in spring training.
04:43 --> 04:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I have to clarify this because people didn't get it when I posted about it on Sunday morning.
04:47 --> 04:54 [SPEAKER_00]: In spring training, the Mariners had Logan Gilbert start in a big game against the podries on Friday.
04:54 --> 05:05 [SPEAKER_00]: They then had George Kirby starting against the Cubs on Saturday and then tonight, Brian
05:05 --> 05:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to take a gander while, given that they haven't announced the official rotation yet, I'm going to assume that is the first three in your rotation in that order to start the 2025 season.
05:19 --> 05:26 [SPEAKER_01]: It seems right, and to that I say, what the fuck dude, seriously.
05:27 --> 05:30 [SPEAKER_01]: To just prep us this, we got our math wrong on Friday.
05:31 --> 05:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I think we said that the first three starters of the year get the 33rd start if you make every turn in the rotation healthy, that the first three guys get the extra start.
05:41 --> 05:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, we were wrong.
05:42 --> 05:44 [SPEAKER_01]: This is what happens when you go to ASU and try to do math.
05:45 --> 05:47 [SPEAKER_01]: But it is the first two guys in a rotation.
05:48 --> 05:49 [SPEAKER_01]: They get that extra start during the year.
05:49 --> 05:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Because 32 starts times five pictures of 160, meaning there's two extra starts remaining.
05:56 --> 05:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Now let me preface it with this.
05:57 --> 06:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, of course rotations get re-shuffled during the year, plenty, are there injuries that happen?
06:02 --> 06:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so are these things going to get jumbled around?
06:05 --> 06:06 [SPEAKER_01]: They absolutely could.
06:07 --> 06:17 [SPEAKER_01]: But the way you're stacking it at the start of the year, you're telling the guy in Brian Wu who finished top five in Saoyong voting, I don't want you starting an extra game.
06:17 --> 06:18 [SPEAKER_01]: Why?
06:18 --> 06:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, it's the same team they're facing in the Guardians, dude.
06:23 --> 06:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Why in the world is he not starting the second game of the year?
06:26 --> 06:29 [SPEAKER_01]: You look him in the eye and say, thanks for your top five-side young finish.
06:29 --> 06:30 [SPEAKER_01]: You're starting third?
06:30 --> 06:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, I think this is ridiculous!
06:35 --> 06:38 [SPEAKER_00]: I think this is a total waste of energy.
06:38 --> 06:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Can I play devil's advocate here for a second?
06:42 --> 06:46 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think game 161 should matter in the Mariners scenario looking out things you're going to play out this year?
06:47 --> 06:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Should it matter?
06:48 --> 06:50 [SPEAKER_00]: No, because they should have claimed, but it's great!
06:51 --> 06:52 [SPEAKER_01]: So that maybe it doesn't matter at all.
06:53 --> 06:57 [SPEAKER_01]: But you're projecting six months down the line, which I guess I'm doing there now.
06:58 --> 07:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I promise you the Mariners are not projecting six months down the line.
07:01 --> 07:03 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners are probably mapped out.
07:04 --> 07:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the first month?
07:06 --> 07:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the first two months.
07:07 --> 07:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Max.
07:09 --> 07:10 [SPEAKER_00]: In this scenario.
07:11 --> 07:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Why are you telling a guy who finished Top 5 in Saoyangvoting?
07:15 --> 07:16 [SPEAKER_01]: You're pitching third.
07:16 --> 07:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I thought there was an argument for Brian Woo to start opening night.
07:19 --> 07:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I agree with starting Logan, but I thought with starting Logan it was a foregone conclusion that Woo was going to start game 2, which means again, if everything were to hypothetically stay the same, even though it probably won't, in this scenario he gets the extra start.
07:34 --> 07:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Why is he starting the third game against the same team?
07:37 --> 07:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's try and get down into the weeds here of why this makes you so mad.
07:44 --> 07:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that this will cause brine would not decide an extension?
07:49 --> 07:53 [SPEAKER_01]: No, but again, it's a matter.
07:53 --> 07:58 [SPEAKER_01]: It's still a little bit of a lack, like, it's a sign of respecting to me.
07:58 --> 08:03 [SPEAKER_01]: You should still reward him by pitching toward the top of your rotation for the season he had last year.
08:03 --> 08:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm full transparency.
08:04 --> 08:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I also would have slotted Brian Wu's second, but I don't think it makes that big a deal.
08:09 --> 08:36 [SPEAKER_00]: they slotted off of a bad season the year before Luis Castillo second last year ahead of Kirby who had a better season in him ahead of woo who had a better season in and head of Bryce Miller who also had a better season in him did one of those guys finish fifth and psi on voting that year no but Bryant Bryce Miller had a sub three ERA in 2024 and we're
08:38 --> 09:08 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, there is no, like this just seems like a waste of energy to me, like we're the only reason in this scenario to get angry is thinking about what could potentially happen six months from now if everything in the rotation stays exactly the same I mean that's what needs to happen that the entire starting five of the rotation needs to stay healthy the entire season for this even a matter
09:10 --> 09:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Think about it.
09:11 --> 09:13 [SPEAKER_00]: If Logan Gilbert gets hurt this year, Lyle.
09:14 --> 09:15 [SPEAKER_00]: That's out the window.
09:15 --> 09:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I am laughing.
09:17 --> 09:19 [SPEAKER_00]: This scenario is out the window.
09:19 --> 09:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Brian will make the extra start.
09:21 --> 09:22 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's what they're going to do.
09:23 --> 09:28 [SPEAKER_00]: If the games actually matter, they're going to shift everyone up in the rotation and pitch on short rest.
09:29 --> 09:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I am doing a little bit of laughing, because this is the type of segment you'd hear on WFAN.
09:33 --> 09:34 [SPEAKER_01]: But.
09:34 --> 09:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's actually just the vibe.
09:37 --> 09:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I wanna hear why is Brian Wu not starting the second game of the year.
09:41 --> 09:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I would love to hear reasoning behind it.
09:46 --> 09:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I like, look, I couldn't give you a reason right now.
09:49 --> 09:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I could just tell you, it's not that big a deal.
09:51 --> 09:54 [SPEAKER_00]: This isn't the postseason rotation.
09:54 --> 10:02 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not like the Mariners rolled out against the Tigers and pitched Brian Wu in game four, right?
10:03 --> 10:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's that's the scenario where you're getting angry or if they pitched him in game and game three I'm asking what the justification is there's got to be some reason they're pitching Do they need a justification?
10:17 --> 10:19 [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely no clue why that is.
10:19 --> 10:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you think they need a justification because you can guarantee that slot in the rotation will get 32 starts just like George Kirby's he might get one extra start if he stays healthy
10:31 --> 10:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Or they skip it, or Jonathan Diaz starts game 161 because the Mariners have clinched the west.
10:40 --> 10:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, the way it's flooded right now, you're saying the first two guys you pitch would get the 33rd start.
10:48 --> 10:52 [SPEAKER_01]: And yes, things will probably get re-shuffled during the year because they always, always do.
10:53 --> 10:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
10:54 --> 10:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Then the argument ends period after that.
10:56 --> 10:58 [SPEAKER_00]: No, things might get re-shuffled.
10:59 --> 11:00 [SPEAKER_01]: The argument does not end.
11:01 --> 11:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Because Brian Wu is not starting the second game of the season.
11:05 --> 11:07 [SPEAKER_00]: But in your own words, it's the same team, same matchup.
11:08 --> 11:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, so why isn't he pitching second?
11:12 --> 11:14 [SPEAKER_00]: It's obviously not that big of a deal.
11:15 --> 11:20 [SPEAKER_00]: You know what, Matt, you know when the rotation matters, the slotting in the rotation matters, September.
11:24 --> 11:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to know why he's not pitching second.
11:26 --> 11:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, it's, you can ask Dave, you like my body credential.
11:29 --> 11:30 [SPEAKER_00]: You should ask him.
11:32 --> 11:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, are we gonna get an answer?
11:35 --> 11:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Probably not, but it's worth a shot.
11:39 --> 11:39 [UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
11:39 --> 11:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll see.
11:41 --> 11:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I am sitting here saying, Brian, we should be starting the second game of the year.
11:46 --> 11:48 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't make much sense, but it's not that big deal.
11:50 --> 11:52 [SPEAKER_00]: It will have zero impact on the mariner season.
11:53 --> 11:57 [SPEAKER_01]: It's probably, it's probably a good thing you were the one talking about this on social media over me.
11:57 --> 12:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think my reaction was going to be like yours.
12:01 --> 12:06 [SPEAKER_01]: You laid it out very calm, cool and collectively for everybody that wanted to see what the rotation was going to be slotted like.
12:07 --> 12:08 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I was going to do that.
12:09 --> 12:17 [SPEAKER_00]: They could also go to a four-man rotation at some point Lyle and skip starts in which case, Brian Woos, Brian Woos shifts up.
12:17 --> 12:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
12:18 --> 12:21 [SPEAKER_00]: They skip, they skip one start and guess what Brian Woos gets?
12:21 --> 12:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Guess what Brian Woos gets?
12:25 --> 12:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And actually start, yeah.
12:27 --> 12:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, again, I know it's gonna get re-shuffled.
12:32 --> 12:33 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I'm sitting here saying.
12:33 --> 12:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I know rotations get re-shuffled.
12:35 --> 12:40 [SPEAKER_01]: The messaging being said about how it's slotted to start the year doesn't make any sense to me.
12:41 --> 12:48 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, so we're gonna do some big J-journalism and we're gonna go dive and see if Brian was pissed about starting on Saturday instead of starting on Friday.
12:49 --> 12:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure we're not gonna get an answer on that either.
12:51 --> 12:54 [SPEAKER_01]: And also, I'm sure if we were to get an answer
12:54 --> 12:56 [SPEAKER_01]: We're not really going to get any information on that.
12:58 --> 12:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Brian, who did that?
12:59 --> 13:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's just a non-story low.
13:01 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Brian, who doesn't have to be mad about it?
13:03 --> 13:04 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm mad about it.
13:04 --> 13:06 [SPEAKER_01]: It is we're sitting here talking about it.
13:07 --> 13:08 [SPEAKER_00]: Put that on the quote card.
13:08 --> 13:10 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter if he's mad about it.
13:10 --> 13:12 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm mad about it.
13:12 --> 13:12 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
13:12 --> 13:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, maybe our guy gave Spire wasn't mad that he didn't go in and get in game one against Kara Carpenter against the Tigers.
13:19 --> 13:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I was evidently.
13:22 --> 13:25 [SPEAKER_01]: So, doesn't matter what they think, this is about what I think.
13:25 --> 13:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm kidding, it very much matters about what they think.
13:27 --> 13:30 [SPEAKER_01]: But, we're saying you're talking about it.
13:30 --> 13:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe this is brand-news decision.
13:33 --> 13:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, then my opinion might change a little bit.
13:37 --> 13:38 [SPEAKER_00]: The rest of the rotation.
13:38 --> 13:40 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm guessing Luis Castillo's four.
13:41 --> 13:47 [SPEAKER_00]: An Emerson Hancock started the game before Logan Gilbert on Thursday, or Wednesday, whichever day it was.
13:49 --> 14:03 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm assuming, I feel like the rotation at this point is going to be in order, Gilbert, Kirby, Wu, Castillo, and Emerson Ancock with Chris Wall in the bullpen.
14:03 --> 14:04 [SPEAKER_01]: seems that way.
14:05 --> 14:10 [SPEAKER_01]: And, look, Chris Wallace pitch well in spring training, but Emerson's obviously been in this role before.
14:10 --> 14:22 [SPEAKER_01]: This will be the third year in a row that he breaks camp in the Mariners starting rotation, because in 24 it was four woo in 25 it was for Kirby, and this year it's going to be for Bryce Miller.
14:22 --> 14:30 [SPEAKER_01]: and they seem to really like some of the stuff he's worked on in the offseason, where VLO's bit up, well obviously have to see if that sticks as the year goes on.
14:30 --> 14:30 [SPEAKER_01]: I hope it does.
14:31 --> 14:33 [SPEAKER_01]: They say some of the secondarys are really playing up.
14:33 --> 14:36 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm interested to see what Emerson looks like when the year starts.
14:36 --> 14:39 [SPEAKER_01]: But it sounds like they're going to roll with him to start.
14:39 --> 14:43 [SPEAKER_00]: And at the very least, they know they can put a back in the bullpen and his stuff will play up.
14:43 --> 14:56 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you will throw harder and his sweeper, which is turned into a somewhat effective pitch, can be used as more of a true strikeout pitch over a shorter spurt to perhaps be more effective if it doesn't work out for him.
14:56 --> 15:02 [SPEAKER_00]: But the best case scenario for this Lyle is for Emerson to hold it down until Bryce Miller's ready to come back.
15:03 --> 15:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Bryce continues to look like he's in good spirits.
15:05 --> 15:09 [SPEAKER_00]: He was in multiple Mariners commercials over the week.
15:09 --> 15:10 [SPEAKER_00]: So I would hope he's doing okay.
15:11 --> 15:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
15:12 --> 15:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I can I can already see a bunch of the comments.
15:15 --> 15:15 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like guys.
15:15 --> 15:16 [SPEAKER_01]: It's opening day.
15:17 --> 15:20 [SPEAKER_01]: The Mariners are anticipating to have their maybe greatest season ever.
15:21 --> 15:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm listening to 10 minutes that you guys bitching about Brian Loots starting the second game versus third game.
15:27 --> 15:31 [SPEAKER_00]: But this is what happens when your team is good and there's no roster battles.
15:31 --> 15:32 [SPEAKER_00]: This is what we have to talk about.
15:32 --> 15:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Also, it means that nature is healing.
15:35 --> 15:39 [SPEAKER_01]: If I'm not sitting here with the smell of baseball in the air.
15:39 --> 15:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Complaining about Dan Wilson decisions, then what are we really doing here?
15:44 --> 15:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Me doing this is a sign that baseball's back!
15:48 --> 15:49 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you've been waiting for this film.
15:49 --> 15:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I think you're waiting for the first thing to potentially get angry at.
15:54 --> 15:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't even need to be something that actually deserves energy.
15:57 --> 16:02 [SPEAKER_00]: It just needs to be the first thing that's gonna like scratch that itch for you.
16:02 --> 16:04 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh, I missed this.
16:05 --> 16:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just black.
16:06 --> 16:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just blacking out in the stands and screaming about Carrie Carpenter in a series they won.
16:10 --> 16:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I missed it.
16:14 --> 16:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what sad is, there's probably a slight amount
16:18 --> 16:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Probably just ever said, I mean, listen, these should be starting the game too.
16:25 --> 16:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, but TJ may not be wrong, that yes, are there parts of me that enjoy it?
16:32 --> 16:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe?
16:33 --> 16:35 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll answer for you.
16:35 --> 16:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, very much so.
16:36 --> 16:38 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, maybe there's part of me that doesn't enjoy it.
16:38 --> 16:40 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's for good reason.
16:41 --> 16:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I still don't get why he's not starting the second game.
16:43 --> 16:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, a couple other Mariners storylines.
16:46 --> 16:49 [SPEAKER_01]: short ones, but Colt Emerson went back to minor league camp.
16:49 --> 16:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's very shocking.
16:51 --> 16:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I think we know.
16:52 --> 16:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I think we know he's going to be a real part of the team this year.
16:55 --> 16:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Just not this second.
16:56 --> 16:59 [SPEAKER_00]: And Leo Rivas will be your opening day shortstop.
16:59 --> 17:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I think seems that way.
17:01 --> 17:06 [SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't prefer him to be the opening day shortstop, but he Leo as expected will be on the roster.
17:06 --> 17:15 [SPEAKER_00]: And the last bit of housekeeping news, I'm sure this is going to go over just a consensus positive reaction
17:17 --> 17:18 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the right decision, man.
17:18 --> 17:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I do too.
17:19 --> 17:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Look, I know a lot of people didn't love watching Mitch Garver at baths over the last two years.
17:26 --> 17:29 [SPEAKER_01]: But let me just tell you what.
17:29 --> 17:42 [SPEAKER_01]: If you thought you didn't like watching Mitch Garver at baths, with all due respect in the world of the guy, because he is supposed to be a very nice dude, I don't think people were ready to watch Andrew Kisner at baths.
17:43 --> 17:46 [SPEAKER_01]: No, or Johnny Perena.
17:48 --> 17:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was always going to be Garver or Kizner.
17:50 --> 17:54 [SPEAKER_00]: Regardless of who it was, it like Garver's at bats are better.
17:54 --> 17:57 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think there was opportunities where he showed it.
17:57 --> 18:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And he did that today on Sunday crushed a home run.
18:02 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he had a sack fly too.
18:04 --> 18:07 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Andrew Kisner is doing that.
18:07 --> 18:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I would maybe not full-tuffy, but Andrew Kisner has never hit well on his career.
18:12 --> 18:17 [SPEAKER_00]: No, so that's what you're expecting, like a stud back up catcher for Cal.
18:17 --> 18:19 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Garver's your best bet for that.
18:20 --> 18:25 [SPEAKER_00]: And speaking of, shout out this man, Cal, the reason he has a back up catcher now.
18:27 --> 18:28 [SPEAKER_00]: That he approves of.
18:30 --> 18:31 [SPEAKER_00]: He vouched for Garver.
18:31 --> 18:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Like Garver wasn't getting a job.
18:34 --> 18:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And then Cowell's like, hey, guys, Garver, you should call the Mariners.
18:37 --> 18:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Comes in on a minor league gal.
18:39 --> 18:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Deal now, Garver gets million dollars this year.
18:42 --> 18:43 [SPEAKER_00]: It can get up to two and a half, I think.
18:44 --> 18:44 [SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty good.
18:45 --> 18:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Barry.
18:47 --> 18:52 [SPEAKER_01]: So, oh, and then speaking of Cow, Randy came out with a full apology statement, which that was nice.
18:52 --> 19:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, we're not going to spend much time talking about it because we refuse to keep talking about a week ago, but I'm glad he said something and that it is fully, fully buried now.
19:00 --> 19:14 [SPEAKER_00]: and it was after his original statement where he didn't acknowledge the actual situation then he put out another this specific one after where he mentioned the exact situation that him and Cal talked and then Cal said something as well.
19:14 --> 19:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Davis was reporting on all of it and it seems like the fences have been minted which is the most important thing.
19:19 --> 19:24 [SPEAKER_00]: They talked out whatever the disagreement was for this and they're all cool now which is great.
19:24 --> 19:25 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what we want.
19:25 --> 19:26 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what adults do.
19:27 --> 19:28 [SPEAKER_00]: They solve problems.
19:29 --> 19:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess the only other storyline to get to before we actually dive into these previews and predictions is not only as the rotation set, but it seems like the roster is just about set, because it's starting to, you're starting to see some writing on the wall for how the 26-man roster is going to shake out as the season starts.
19:47 --> 19:57 [SPEAKER_01]: So as we set, it looks like it's going to be like this, but the rotation is going to be what we just described, Gilbert, Kirby, Wu, Castillo, Emerson, Hancock.
19:57 --> 19:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Garver and Cal be the two catchers.
19:59 --> 20:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Your infields gonna be Nailer, Cole Young, Brendan Dotovan, Leo Rivas, and probably Ryan Bliss because Mastro's still hurt, and with JP hurt, it's probably going to be bliss at least to start the year.
20:10 --> 20:25 [SPEAKER_01]: You'd have Julio, Randy, Canzone, Rayleigh, Robles, and Reft Snyder in your Alfield, and then your bullpen as it seems will be Muno's brash, Spire, Bizarro, Ferre, Vargas, Chriswell, and then Leica Bino to get the last spot.
20:27 --> 20:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Seems like that's in Bliss.
20:29 --> 20:31 [SPEAKER_01]: It seems like that's all about stacked up.
20:31 --> 20:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
20:32 --> 20:33 [SPEAKER_00]: Happy for Ein Bliss.
20:34 --> 20:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know how long he's in me on the roster 4.
20:37 --> 20:43 [SPEAKER_00]: I still don't really see a path for him playing unless he goes thermonuclear and AAA.
20:44 --> 20:48 [SPEAKER_00]: But he the situation Ryan Bliss went through last year.
20:48 --> 20:48 [SPEAKER_00]: It sucked.
20:49 --> 20:52 [SPEAKER_00]: He was the one of the second baseman on the roster to start the season.
20:53 --> 20:57 [SPEAKER_00]: You knew Cole Young was coming, but that was Ryan Bliss's opportunity to showcase himself.
20:58 --> 21:00 [SPEAKER_00]: And then in the first week at the season, he breaks his arm.
21:01 --> 21:02 [SPEAKER_00]: And his out.
21:02 --> 21:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, that breaks his arm, but he tore his bitha.
21:04 --> 21:05 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sorry.
21:05 --> 21:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Tor's right.
21:06 --> 21:07 [SPEAKER_00]: So I couldn't remember exactly what it was.
21:08 --> 21:29 [SPEAKER_00]: God, a bad injury tore his bicep and was out the rest of the year and never got a chance to come back and now Unfortunately, there's someone at his second base spot that the Mariners love and adore and Koleon Well, it wasn't just the arm injury then bliss suffered a knee injury, too I think it was a meniscus injury When he's breathing
21:30 --> 21:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, he really went through the ringer last year, and he really is just an unbelievable dude.
21:36 --> 21:38 [SPEAKER_01]: So I hope during the first...
21:38 --> 22:00 [SPEAKER_00]: week two weeks of the year he gets his chance and gets to play a little bit and hopefully show something because he really has an easy guy to root for and it stinks because it just there's no there's less of an opportunity to showcase yourself even for other major league teams if you're a injured or be in AAA as opposed to
22:00 --> 22:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's say he showed out for the first two months on the Mariners roster last year.
22:04 --> 22:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Koli young comes up, Mariners decide they like Koli young better, and Ryan Bliss gets an opportunity somewhere else.
22:10 --> 22:18 [SPEAKER_00]: But people don't know if Ryan Bliss can hit at the big league level yet, so they're not going to trade for him and give him a spot, right?
22:18 --> 22:19 [SPEAKER_00]: Which tanks?
22:19 --> 22:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
22:20 --> 22:22 [SPEAKER_00]: But now he'll get an opportunity, and I hope he crush, I hope he runs with it.
22:23 --> 22:23 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he'll do good.
22:24 --> 22:26 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope so too.
22:26 --> 22:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Ready to get to some projections, Lyle.
22:28 --> 22:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Some, some, some, our Mariners predictions.
22:33 --> 22:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Who starts the second game of the year?
22:34 --> 22:36 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's, it's probably will?
22:37 --> 22:37 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
22:37 --> 22:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Still, you can still make a prediction on that, though.
22:41 --> 22:51 [SPEAKER_00]: As an officially been announced, we didn't even mention it's still possible for Brian who to start the second game of the season because he would have four days rest going into it.
22:51 --> 22:57 [SPEAKER_01]: It would, but it wouldn't make any sense because then everybody else in the rotation is basically getting a week and he gets four days.
22:58 --> 23:00 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, but we can spin zone it.
23:01 --> 23:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're the kings of spin zones.
23:03 --> 23:04 [SPEAKER_01]: We spin zone everything.
23:04 --> 23:09 [SPEAKER_01]: When Kyle Tucker got traded at the cubs, we said that actually up this chance is to get traded to the Mariners, which we did.
23:10 --> 23:10 [SPEAKER_01]: It did?
23:11 --> 23:12 [SPEAKER_01]: That was correct.
23:13 --> 23:14 [SPEAKER_00]: We're master spin zonas.
23:15 --> 23:16 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just the cubs fault they weren't bad.
23:17 --> 23:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
23:18 --> 23:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Cubs needed to suck and then trade him at the deadline.
23:22 --> 23:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Sadly, they were good.
23:23 --> 23:23 [SPEAKER_00]: What a shame.
23:24 --> 23:27 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's start off with these Mariners season predictions.
23:27 --> 23:30 [SPEAKER_00]: I've split this up into two different sections.
23:30 --> 23:35 [SPEAKER_00]: The first section, we're going to do Mariners Awards, and then the second section.
23:36 --> 23:43 [SPEAKER_00]: We have some totals for some key Mariners stats, and we're going to pick over or under for these.
23:44 --> 23:49 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's start with the Mariners Rookie of the Year for 2026, Lyle, who is it?
23:50 --> 23:54 [SPEAKER_01]: The problem with this one is, can you really pick anybody other than one guy?
23:55 --> 23:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to say Cold Emerson.
23:57 --> 24:04 [SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be cold to ever say, is there anyone who's going to be a rookie and actually get significant playing time on this team?
24:05 --> 24:08 [SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing is there's not even really somebody in the bullpen that would be that guy.
24:09 --> 24:24 [SPEAKER_01]: The only way somebody else could win this award is if Colt Emerson for whatever reason, struggles beyond belief when he gets up to the big leagues, Kate Anderson gets up in August and for two months is dominant down the stretch and into the postseason and that's the Mariners' best rookie.
24:25 --> 24:30 [SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think that's going to happen because I fully expect Colt Emerson to be ready and to be impactful once he's called up.
24:30 --> 24:43 [SPEAKER_00]: I put like a 5% chance of that happening, or even in a different scenario, Tyler Cleveland or guy gets called up for some, some bullpen help, and he throws 20 really good innings towards the end of the year.
24:44 --> 24:45 [SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
24:45 --> 24:53 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking, I literally pulled up the Mariners top 30, I'm like, can this guy make an impact on the Mariners this year, and any significant way over Colt Emerson?
24:53 --> 24:58 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, yes, Colt number one, and then like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah,
24:59 --> 25:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Michael Arroyo would be the other.
25:02 --> 25:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Where is he going to play?
25:05 --> 25:06 [SPEAKER_01]: You'd have to find time for him.
25:07 --> 25:08 [SPEAKER_01]: He might de-age.
25:08 --> 25:09 [SPEAKER_01]: He might play some laugh.
25:09 --> 25:13 [SPEAKER_01]: He might play some second base on certain days, maybe.
25:13 --> 25:17 [SPEAKER_00]: But it would probably be de-age in left field.
25:18 --> 25:22 [SPEAKER_00]: The only way I feel like he gets enough playing time is if Colt gets hurt.
25:22 --> 25:25 [SPEAKER_00]: in which case, of course, this race would be wide open.
25:25 --> 25:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Because if Colt is healthy, a royal's not playing third, he's not playing short, he's not playing second, he's not playing first, he's not de-aching, he's not playing left, he's definitely not playing center, and he's probably not playing right.
25:47 --> 26:12 [SPEAKER_01]: right if he's difficult I mean if he's really hitting they will find a spy if he's really hitting in the miners he's the other option there would need to be someone really struggling at the big league level but again prospects called up more on are called up more on their timelines the good ones at least like if a royal is ready they'll find a spy I guess we'll see I would put that also at less than one percent
26:14 --> 26:17 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how Colt Emerson doesn't run away with this award.
26:17 --> 26:25 [SPEAKER_01]: He probably will, but I don't know if I put the odds of Michael Aroyo being an impactful hitter in his rookie year at less than one percent, there's a chance he could get up on really hit.
26:26 --> 26:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I said winning rookie of the year at one percent.
26:28 --> 26:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Ah.
26:29 --> 26:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
26:30 --> 26:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I might get it a little more than that, but yes, it's probably going to be Colt Emerson.
26:35 --> 26:39 [SPEAKER_00]: How about the mayor's most improved player in 2026?
26:41 --> 26:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty bullish on Cole Young this year.
26:44 --> 26:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I really think he's going to break out in a big way, especially it's not just the 478 foot new key hit the other day, but which by the way was crushed, and it was the longest home run in spring training so far.
26:58 --> 27:07 [SPEAKER_01]: But the big thing for him this year is being on time with fastballs and doing damage on heaters, which he did not do a lot of his rookie year, and it's something the Mariners have worked with him a lot on.
27:07 --> 27:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Seems like the latter have a spring training, he's really been on it.
27:11 --> 27:26 [SPEAKER_01]: And you don't always know if that's going to translate to a full season of the success against those four seamers or not, but I just think with what you saw last summer for that six week stretch and the improvements he made in the off season and the weighty put on and the defensive improvements he's been working to make and his footwork said to be improving.
27:26 --> 27:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
27:28 --> 27:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I just think Cole Young is going to really take some strides in year two.
27:33 --> 27:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Really good pick.
27:34 --> 27:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I chose more of a veteran guy for this.
27:36 --> 27:36 [SPEAKER_00]: I chose Luke Rayleigh.
27:37 --> 27:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Most improved over last year.
27:40 --> 27:41 [SPEAKER_00]: Last year was kind of a loss here for me.
27:41 --> 27:42 [SPEAKER_00]: It was hurt.
27:42 --> 27:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Couldn't get in a rhythm.
27:44 --> 27:50 [SPEAKER_00]: Just played a little bit over 70 games, but we know what Luke Rayleigh can be when he's healthy, and he plays, and he maximizes his role.
27:51 --> 28:00 [SPEAKER_00]: In 2023 and 2024, Luke Rayleigh was the same player, and it was an incredibly valuable, and it was over two wins, and it was a WRC plus of 129.
28:00 --> 28:13 [SPEAKER_00]: at the Mariners can get 115 games of a 2 win, 129 WRC plus Luke Rayleigh at DH, win, or sorry, no, he'd be in right field.
28:13 --> 28:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Huge win.
28:15 --> 28:17 [SPEAKER_00]: Huge win for this lineup.
28:17 --> 28:29 [SPEAKER_00]: People, I don't even think when they're factoring in how good the Mariners lineup is, which by the way, I was peeking
28:29 --> 28:33 [SPEAKER_00]: behind only the Dodgers and the Yankees.
28:33 --> 28:34 [SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty good.
28:34 --> 28:36 [SPEAKER_00]: That's hitting in T-Mobile Park as well.
28:36 --> 28:44 [SPEAKER_00]: But when people are making rankings like that, I know they're not thinking about Luke Rayleigh, not for a single second.
28:45 --> 28:47 [SPEAKER_00]: But Luke Rayleigh could be a really impactful bat for the Mariners this year.
28:48 --> 28:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think a lot of those rankings they're thought to circle around 29 and 44.
28:52 --> 28:54 [SPEAKER_01]: That's where a lot of it goes.
28:54 --> 28:58 [SPEAKER_01]: And then some of the others too, Naila, Randy, et cetera, but not none of them.
28:58 --> 29:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Donovan, not Luke Rayleigh, but maybe Luke Rayleigh will be a difference maker this year.
29:03 --> 29:06 [SPEAKER_01]: He is going to have to stay on the field, number one.
29:06 --> 29:10 [SPEAKER_01]: He's obviously not going to be playing much against left handed pitching.
29:10 --> 29:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's for certain.
29:11 --> 29:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Bye.
29:13 --> 29:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's interesting.
29:14 --> 29:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Even when he's at his best, he's just so streaky.
29:18 --> 29:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Remember in 24, I mean, he had a few months where he was just hotter than the sun, and he had a couple months where he looked unplayable.
29:25 --> 29:27 [SPEAKER_01]: That's usually how his seasons go.
29:27 --> 29:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Is it's so up and down with him, but in the good years, it spits out a really nice final product.
29:33 --> 29:37 [SPEAKER_00]: And the Mariners will take that streaky is better than not hitting at all.
29:38 --> 29:41 [SPEAKER_00]: And the roster this year is really set up for him to succeed.
29:42 --> 29:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Think about the 2024 roster is last good year compared to this roster.
29:45 --> 29:52 [SPEAKER_00]: 2024, people were thrown out the idea of, oh, maybe they'll hit Luke Rayleigh against, oh, I know that was last year.
29:52 --> 30:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Regardless, in 2024 when Luke Rayleigh was one of the Mariners best players, they had to rely on him a little bit, and I do think he did face a little bit more left-handed pitching that year if I remember that correctly, I can double check now.
30:08 --> 30:11 [SPEAKER_00]: This year, I mean, it is optimized for his success.
30:12 --> 30:23 [SPEAKER_00]: He is if you want if that's what I decide Only gets to face right-hand pitching because they have guys who are significantly better against left-handed pitching Opposite has put him.
30:24 --> 30:25 [SPEAKER_00]: It works out great.
30:25 --> 30:30 [SPEAKER_00]: So how many I don't think he I really don't think
30:30 --> 30:32 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's the Rob Ruff Snyder value right there.
30:33 --> 30:48 [SPEAKER_01]: When you talk about days where you need to get Luke Rayleigh out, you take the Luke Rayleigh but against left handed pitching version of it and put them in the box and Rob Ruff Snyder because Rob Ruff Snyder against left handed pitching just absolutely meshes like beyond meshes.
30:49 --> 30:55 [SPEAKER_00]: So he had a few more played appearances in 2024 against lefties and he did in 2023, but it was still only 82.
30:55 --> 30:59 [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't need to take 82 played appearances against left-handed pitching this year.
31:00 --> 31:05 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what Victor Robless and Rob Raff Snyder are for and perhaps somebody else.
31:05 --> 31:08 [SPEAKER_00]: If the Mariners have a right-handed bat, they can plug into lineup.
31:08 --> 31:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Luke Rayley doesn't need to do that, which is really nice.
31:10 --> 31:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Him and Dom can zone are going to be like this.
31:13 --> 31:15 [SPEAKER_00]: In terms of their role, I expect it to be pretty mirrored.
31:16 --> 31:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think less than 50 played appearances against lefties for the year for both of them is perfect.
31:25 --> 31:29 [SPEAKER_00]: fifty-and-a-half combined plate appearances for Dom Canzone and Luke Rayley together against lefties.
31:31 --> 31:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I am hoping the under so I'll take the under.
31:35 --> 31:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'll probably go over but not by that much.
31:38 --> 31:43 [SPEAKER_01]: If you want me to guess, if you actually want me to give a prediction over, I'm just hoping it's the under.
31:45 --> 31:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Mariners Saoyong.
31:48 --> 31:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Brian Lough.
31:50 --> 31:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Who's yours?
31:51 --> 31:58 [SPEAKER_00]: Also Brian will and I think it's just because he is the easiest to project and he's the most consistent.
31:59 --> 32:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Logan Gilbert has shown us he's got a little bit of variance to what he does and it kind of makes sense if you think about him as pictures.
32:07 --> 32:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Logan has a lot of motion, jerking around everywhere he's got a million different pitches.
32:14 --> 32:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Brian will, it's, here's my fastball, good luck.
32:19 --> 32:24 [SPEAKER_00]: and he's shown through a year and a half now that no one's been able to touch as fast-forward as peak.
32:25 --> 32:28 [SPEAKER_00]: But I feel good about Brian Lewis, so I've asked him to pick now, yet, him.
32:30 --> 32:31 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what's amazing about him?
32:31 --> 32:32 [SPEAKER_01]: It's every year.
32:32 --> 32:36 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just massively improved on something.
32:36 --> 32:39 [SPEAKER_01]: and just continues to get better and better and better.
32:39 --> 32:41 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm curious if that can happen again this year.
32:41 --> 32:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I actually think it can.
32:42 --> 32:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Cause in his rookie year, what he proved is at absolutely nothing else.
32:47 --> 32:50 [SPEAKER_01]: He had two really, really valuable fastballs.
32:50 --> 32:54 [SPEAKER_01]: He showed that as early as his rookie year, that you knew those two fastballs were just deadly.
32:55 --> 33:04 [SPEAKER_01]: The question about him going into 24 was, look, it's great you have these two fastballs, but are you going to get any lefties out because you got crushed by them all through your rookie year?
33:04 --> 33:14 [SPEAKER_01]: He didn't change any of his pitches, he didn't add anything, he just said, no, I'm just going to keep throwing my stuff in attacking, then lefty stopped hitting him completely, lefty didn't hit him in second year.
33:15 --> 33:22 [SPEAKER_01]: Then last year, became, well man, Brian Wu and he's on the mound is so good and he's so nasty and he has such good stuff.
33:22 --> 33:24 [SPEAKER_01]: but can he work deep into games?
33:24 --> 33:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Can they rely on him?
33:25 --> 33:26 [SPEAKER_01]: Is he going to stay on the field?
33:27 --> 33:32 [SPEAKER_01]: And then he throws six or more innings for 25 starts in a row.
33:32 --> 33:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Any proof he was as durable as could be about until the end of the year unfortunately.
33:37 --> 33:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Every year he's just added something else.
33:39 --> 33:41 [SPEAKER_01]: So what could that thing be this year?
33:41 --> 33:48 [SPEAKER_01]: If I had to look at it, I wonder if this is the year where one of those secondaries really takes the massive jump.
33:48 --> 33:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Not just from being something that's complimentary, but to something that truly becomes an outpitch for the guy.
33:54 --> 33:59 [SPEAKER_01]: Because against Brian was both Slider and Sweeper last year,
33:59 --> 34:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Guys weren't hitting it, but the actual run value of it when you're looking at baseball sovon, it doesn't jump off the page.
34:06 --> 34:08 [SPEAKER_01]: The batting average against those pitches was low.
34:09 --> 34:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Guys were hitting under 200 against the slider and under 200 against the sweeper.
34:13 --> 34:17 [SPEAKER_01]: But can the actual value of the pitch and some of the swinging miss he gets with that pitch?
34:18 --> 34:20 [SPEAKER_01]: trend up in 26.
34:20 --> 34:25 [SPEAKER_01]: That is the one thing I guess I've looked at with Brian Wu and say if he's going to keep improving, can he do that?
34:25 --> 34:30 [SPEAKER_01]: And if he does that, I mean, now you're talking about really having a chance to win the Siyang.
34:31 --> 34:37 [SPEAKER_00]: The question then is, can he take himself from being a good strikeout pitcher to a great strikeout pitcher?
34:38 --> 34:43 [SPEAKER_00]: It just, can you perfectly intertwine the combination of strikeouts and ground balls?
34:43 --> 34:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Where no one is doing any damage against you.
34:46 --> 34:49 [SPEAKER_00]: When they do hit it, it's on the ground, but they don't hit it against you very much.
34:50 --> 34:54 [SPEAKER_00]: His strikeout rate this year are last year as 27%.
34:55 --> 34:57 [SPEAKER_00]: The elite of the elite guys are over 30%.
34:57 --> 35:01 [SPEAKER_00]: Even the starters, Terkskubel, Garakorchet, they're over 30%.
35:03 --> 35:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Will he be able to see how the ceiling in himself to get up there?
35:07 --> 35:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Because that's what's left.
35:09 --> 35:13 [SPEAKER_00]: If he's gonna beat these guys for a sion, that's probably what he's gonna have to do.
35:13 --> 35:18 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's just gonna be able to do it on innings unless his ERA starts with a one.
35:19 --> 35:21 [SPEAKER_01]: And that took a big jump last year too.
35:22 --> 35:27 [SPEAKER_01]: His first two years of strikeout rate was not crazy high, but it took a really nice jump last year.
35:28 --> 35:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Can it trend that way again in 26?
35:30 --> 35:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Can that happen?
35:31 --> 35:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Which I think would perfectly coincide with if he gets one of those secondaries to be more of a swing and miss pitch?
35:38 --> 35:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I think you'll see his K-Rakeo up.
35:40 --> 35:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Mariners MVP.
35:44 --> 35:45 [SPEAKER_01]: It's gotta be Julio.
35:45 --> 35:48 [SPEAKER_01]: It was Cal last year, and Cal may be great again this year.
35:48 --> 35:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I think Cal will be great again this year, but this just feels like it's time.
35:53 --> 35:59 [SPEAKER_01]: 25 years old, you saw all the adjustments he made in the second half of last year.
35:59 --> 36:01 [SPEAKER_01]: It felt like something really, really clicked.
36:02 --> 36:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's his time, man.
36:03 --> 36:04 [SPEAKER_00]: I think this is really Aussie here.
36:05 --> 36:10 [SPEAKER_00]: And last year was the, his best year in terms of a strikeout rate perspective.
36:10 --> 36:12 [SPEAKER_00]: He still did chase about the same amount.
36:13 --> 36:17 [SPEAKER_00]: He did in previous years, but he didn't strike out as much.
36:17 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_00]: His strikeout rate was much lower.
36:19 --> 36:22 [SPEAKER_00]: The power output was, power output was similar.
36:23 --> 36:24 [SPEAKER_00]: The stolen bases were good.
36:24 --> 36:27 [SPEAKER_00]: The defense was great, and he's just 25 years old.
36:27 --> 36:28 [SPEAKER_00]: Why not?
36:28 --> 36:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Why can't it be this year for Julio?
36:30 --> 36:34 [SPEAKER_00]: The age 25 thing, it works for Acunia, right?
36:34 --> 36:37 [SPEAKER_00]: Acunia won his MVP at age 25.
36:38 --> 36:47 [SPEAKER_00]: Juan Soto had his best season, best 162 game season as a pro when he was 25 years old.
36:48 --> 36:49 [SPEAKER_00]: You know who else?
36:49 --> 36:50 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even think of this one.
36:50 --> 36:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Had a great 25 year old season, which he broke out.
36:54 --> 36:55 [SPEAKER_00]: Cowarelli.
36:56 --> 36:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was Kyle's rookie year.
36:57 --> 36:58 [SPEAKER_00]: He was 25 years old.
36:59 --> 37:01 [SPEAKER_00]: He was always a good player in the miners.
37:01 --> 37:05 [SPEAKER_00]: He was a solid catcher with some power but never a top 100 guy.
37:06 --> 37:07 [SPEAKER_00]: He came up as a 24-year-old.
37:07 --> 37:15 [SPEAKER_00]: He really struggled and then came up as a 25-year-old and broke onto the scene and became one of the best powerhating catchers in baseball.
37:15 --> 37:21 [SPEAKER_00]: He obviously still had some more ceiling to unearth as we've seen this past year.
37:21 --> 37:27 [SPEAKER_00]: but it took until age 25 for Cal to break onto the scenes as a pro at the highest level and do that.
37:28 --> 37:29 [SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Judges was the same way.
37:31 --> 37:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Julio and Cal have been playing the same amount of baseball, right?
37:34 --> 37:35 [SPEAKER_00]: They've just been playing it in different places.
37:36 --> 37:46 [SPEAKER_00]: When Julio debuted in MLB at 21 years old, and Cal was here too, when Cal was 21 years old, he's playing it for a state.
37:46 --> 37:49 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not playing ball, but it's just a different level.
37:49 --> 37:51 [SPEAKER_00]: These guys are always constantly playing.
37:52 --> 37:54 [SPEAKER_00]: And it took Cal until he was 25 to break out.
37:55 --> 37:57 [SPEAKER_00]: So why can't it be Julio?
37:57 --> 37:59 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm really buying this age 25 stuff.
38:00 --> 38:02 [SPEAKER_00]: I think this is gonna be big for him.
38:02 --> 38:03 [SPEAKER_01]: And just the strides he took last year.
38:04 --> 38:09 [SPEAKER_01]: It really felt like a lot of his approach was much more concrete and much more locked in last year.
38:10 --> 38:14 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think this is the year really just jumps off the page,
38:14 --> 38:18 [SPEAKER_01]: to get off on the right foot, just start hot, who, yeah.
38:18 --> 38:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Just one time, one time, just start hot.
38:21 --> 38:23 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's gonna set everything else up so well.
38:24 --> 38:32 [SPEAKER_00]: And why people are so tantalized at this is that he is a consensus top 10 player in baseball with his offensive inconsistency.
38:33 --> 38:44 [SPEAKER_00]: If he could just win an MVP, then it might go in order, Lyle, Otani, Judge, Witt, Rodriguez,
38:45 --> 38:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Top five.
38:46 --> 38:48 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Julio might pass Bobby wet at some point.
38:48 --> 38:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, if his offensive ceiling gets to what it has the potential to get to, your split in hairs here.
38:55 --> 38:57 [SPEAKER_01]: But, could he be third?
38:58 --> 38:58 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
38:58 --> 38:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Pass one, soto, too.
39:00 --> 39:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, soto doesn't play a lick of defense.
39:05 --> 39:06 [SPEAKER_00]: Fund to think about Barry.
39:06 --> 39:07 [SPEAKER_00]: But, well, and I earn agreement here.
39:08 --> 39:08 [SPEAKER_00]: It's Julio's time.
39:09 --> 39:09 [SPEAKER_00]: Calhide is turned.
39:10 --> 39:12 [SPEAKER_00]: Calh can have a turn again.
39:12 --> 39:15 [SPEAKER_00]: But this year, I think, is big for Julio.
39:15 --> 39:16 [SPEAKER_00]: It's really big.
39:17 --> 39:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of Cal, let's go to some of these over-under projections, because we do this every year.
39:23 --> 39:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's start with Cal Homer's.
39:24 --> 39:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 40 and a half.
39:26 --> 39:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Cal's Homer on projection is 40 and a half.
39:30 --> 39:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Over, yeah, over.
39:32 --> 39:34 [SPEAKER_01]: I think Cal's gonna be right in that 45 range.
39:35 --> 39:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Really good year, hali, catchers in home runs, probably lead catchers in war, over on homers.
39:41 --> 39:48 [SPEAKER_00]: These projections, by the way, we got them from one of two places where they grabbed them from our friends at B&M GM or FanGrafts.
39:49 --> 39:52 [SPEAKER_00]: Julio Homer and Lyle, 27 and a half.
39:53 --> 39:55 [SPEAKER_00]: With the year we're projecting him to have, oh yeah, give me the over.
39:57 --> 39:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm taking over for Julio.
39:59 --> 40:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd love for him to get over that call number, too.
40:02 --> 40:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I was just gonna say,
40:04 --> 40:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Just as we're talking about this feels like his year.
40:06 --> 40:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't this feel like the year we see him hit 40?
40:10 --> 40:10 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd love that.
40:11 --> 40:12 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna be great.
40:13 --> 40:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Then again, these are the same people that get their predictions wrong every year.
40:16 --> 40:33 [SPEAKER_01]: In our inaugural year of doing this podcast, TJ told everybody to take their fucking house mortgages and put it on the over a robbery race strikeouts, which we have a friend who actually placed a wager on that and screamed at TJ when robbery went on the I.L.
40:34 --> 40:40 [SPEAKER_00]: Look, I can't project when someone's gonna get hurt while he was going to strike out 200 batteries.
40:40 --> 40:42 [SPEAKER_00]: If...
40:42 --> 40:43 [SPEAKER_00]: If that happened.
40:43 --> 40:46 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm not the one that of you, but our friend.
40:46 --> 40:46 [SPEAKER_01]: No.
40:46 --> 40:47 [SPEAKER_01]: He's not happy.
40:48 --> 40:48 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway.
40:48 --> 40:53 [SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to guess, Robby Ray's strike out total from... Well... Shit.
40:55 --> 40:55 [SPEAKER_00]: What was it last year?
40:56 --> 40:56 [SPEAKER_00]: Not 203.
40:57 --> 40:59 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-oh, what was it?
40:59 --> 41:00 [SPEAKER_00]: There's 186.
41:01 --> 41:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Did he make every start?
41:03 --> 41:04 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, he did.
41:04 --> 41:06 [SPEAKER_00]: 30, where's it?
41:06 --> 41:09 [SPEAKER_00]: 30, yeah, 32 starts for Robbie Ray last year.
41:09 --> 41:10 [SPEAKER_00]: How about that?
41:10 --> 41:13 [SPEAKER_00]: 182 innings, 186 strikeouts.
41:13 --> 41:19 [SPEAKER_00]: And now the difference, his full year in Seattle, 189 innings, 211 12 strikeouts.
41:19 --> 41:20 [SPEAKER_00]: How about that?
41:20 --> 41:23 [SPEAKER_00]: No, we have one strike out total on here.
41:23 --> 41:24 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to that one.
41:24 --> 41:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to suggest anyone put their mortgage on any of these.
41:30 --> 41:30 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
41:30 --> 41:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Julio steals 26 and a half.
41:34 --> 41:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I actually'm gonna go under for this one.
41:36 --> 41:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Not by a lot, but I think Julio still and bases more sit in the 20 to 25 ranges here because I just don't think they have them still quite as much.
41:44 --> 41:47 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna still go over, not by a lot.
41:47 --> 41:49 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think this will be between this number and 30.
41:49 --> 41:52 [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
41:52 --> 41:52 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't argue.
41:52 --> 41:54 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we'll like having 30 homer seasons.
41:54 --> 41:57 [SPEAKER_00]: Our 30, 30 seasons.
41:57 --> 41:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
41:58 --> 42:00 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, it's not going to shock me if he does it.
42:00 --> 42:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I just wonder if the mariners are more cautious with them.
42:03 --> 42:06 [SPEAKER_01]: There's been times right where stolen bases can lead to injuries.
42:06 --> 42:09 [SPEAKER_01]: You can't really afford a long-term Julio injury, not this year.
42:10 --> 42:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So,
42:11 --> 42:16 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got the mid on, but yes, or you have the moment where he gets picked off at first and the game.
42:17 --> 42:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, those aren't great either.
42:19 --> 42:22 [SPEAKER_00]: Colt Emerson Games played 70 and a half.
42:23 --> 42:25 [SPEAKER_01]: This is an over for me.
42:25 --> 42:27 [SPEAKER_01]: I actually feel pretty confident about this one.
42:27 --> 42:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Cole Young got up in late May last year, right around Memorial Day, played 77 games, and that includes the final month of the year where he essentially did not play at all.
42:36 --> 42:37 [SPEAKER_01]: It was just on the bench.
42:38 --> 42:43 [SPEAKER_01]: And if Cole Deverson is going to be on a similar timeline, he's going to play more than 70 and a half games.
42:44 --> 42:47 [SPEAKER_00]: The only reason he doesn't go over the smart is if he's hurt.
42:48 --> 42:49 [SPEAKER_00]: If he's healthy, he's going way over this.
42:50 --> 42:51 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope he plays 100 games.
42:51 --> 42:54 [SPEAKER_00]: 190 to 100 games would be great.
42:55 --> 43:00 [SPEAKER_00]: Brian Wu ERA 3.59 over or under.
43:01 --> 43:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, give me the under on that.
43:03 --> 43:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Especially if I'm thinking he's got a chance to level up again this year, under.
43:07 --> 43:10 [SPEAKER_00]: FanCrafts has a really high projection for Brian Wu.
43:11 --> 43:16 [SPEAKER_00]: The projections are pretty pretty say word.
43:16 --> 43:17 [SPEAKER_00]: You have a pretty safe projection.
43:18 --> 43:23 [SPEAKER_00]: So essentially project him to have a league average ERA pitching a team of a park.
43:23 --> 43:24 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going way under this.
43:25 --> 43:28 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd be shocked to Brian Lou at an ERA over three two.
43:31 --> 43:31 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
43:31 --> 43:34 [SPEAKER_00]: Logan Gilbert strikeouts, one eighty four and a half.
43:35 --> 43:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
43:38 --> 43:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is similar to the robby right idea, right?
43:40 --> 43:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Where if he makes every star, he should go over this.
43:45 --> 43:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure, I'll say, yeah, I'll say over.
43:46 --> 43:48 [SPEAKER_00]: This should be an easy over.
43:48 --> 43:50 [SPEAKER_00]: If they haven't go over, it starts 30 games.
43:50 --> 43:52 [SPEAKER_00]: He's going to strike out 200 batteries.
43:52 --> 43:53 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
43:53 --> 43:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we're on the same page here.
43:55 --> 43:56 [SPEAKER_01]: He makes a start.
43:57 --> 43:58 [SPEAKER_00]: He'll make a start.
43:58 --> 44:00 [SPEAKER_00]: 33% of the batteries, he pays last year.
44:01 --> 44:09 [SPEAKER_01]: The year before he didn't strike out as many, cause again, he was much more efficient with less strikeouts, but if he's making every start, he should be striking out 190 plus guys.
44:10 --> 44:14 [SPEAKER_00]: Dan Wilson ejections over or under a half.
44:16 --> 44:17 [SPEAKER_01]: He'll get one.
44:17 --> 44:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I think he had two last year.
44:20 --> 44:21 [SPEAKER_01]: There'll be one at some point.
44:21 --> 44:26 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure he's not gonna get all that fired out, but maybe he argues with balls and strikes call it some point.
44:27 --> 44:28 [SPEAKER_01]: But the ADS?
44:29 --> 44:30 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, true.
44:30 --> 44:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, at some point there will be one over something.
44:34 --> 44:35 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go under.
44:35 --> 44:37 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say keeps his head on tight this year.
44:37 --> 44:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, how about that?
44:41 --> 44:43 [SPEAKER_00]: Mariners team wins 89 and a half.
44:45 --> 44:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, over for me.
44:47 --> 44:53 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying they're going to go win 100 games, but there'll be in the 91 to 96 win range.
44:53 --> 44:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they win about 93 games, so over.
44:55 --> 44:56 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you.
44:56 --> 44:58 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the team wins 93 games.
44:58 --> 45:01 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a pretty, again, a pretty safe projection.
45:01 --> 45:03 [SPEAKER_00]: Look at the West.
45:03 --> 45:05 [SPEAKER_00]: You look at the rest of the American League.
45:05 --> 45:09 [SPEAKER_00]: I've ever really hard time thinking the Mariners don't win 89 and a half games.
45:10 --> 45:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, our friend Peter Apple made a really good point with just baseball on a video he did just the other day.
45:16 --> 45:18 [SPEAKER_01]: You look at the Astros rotation.
45:18 --> 45:21 [SPEAKER_01]: There's really nothing.
45:21 --> 45:28 [SPEAKER_01]: All right, I shouldn't say nothing, but not a lot to be that excited about past Hunter Brown.
45:28 --> 45:35 [SPEAKER_01]: finally of Christian Havier, Katsuya ima is a total unknown, and after that it's just a bunch of, you have no idea.
45:36 --> 45:38 [SPEAKER_00]: Isn't that the second best team in the division?
45:39 --> 45:43 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you want to argue the Rangers or the second best team, then what does that say about the AL West?
45:44 --> 45:45 [SPEAKER_00]: That it's not good, as we've said.
45:47 --> 45:54 [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's why fan graphs and all the other projections have the mirrors as an overwhelming favor for the American like West.
45:54 --> 45:56 [SPEAKER_00]: And part of the reason
45:58 --> 46:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Second best odds to win the World Series 8.9 percent out of sheer PTSD I'll say under but doesn't mean they don't make the World Series
46:14 --> 46:15 [SPEAKER_00]: I like, I mean, I like this number.
46:16 --> 46:16 [SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
46:17 --> 46:20 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, how can you not let's, let's, let's add some context here.
46:20 --> 46:21 [SPEAKER_00]: So the Mariners are second.
46:21 --> 46:28 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a fan graph's number for odds of, for a betmgm, the Mariners are third behind the Yankees and the Dodgers.
46:30 --> 46:36 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mariners per fan graphs have an 8.9% chance of making the, well, winning the world series.
46:36 --> 46:38 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not making it's winning the world series.
46:39 --> 46:46 [SPEAKER_00]: The Dodgers percentage at number one of winning the world series is 27.8%.
46:47 --> 46:55 [SPEAKER_00]: There is a, there is a 19% difference between number one and number two on this.
46:56 --> 47:01 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll take it as a win, I'll hang the banner right now, I'll hang it.
47:01 --> 47:06 [SPEAKER_00]: You saw the banner going down the street this week, just add a little scribble to it.
47:06 --> 47:17 [SPEAKER_00]: It's the 2025 American League West Champions and fan graphs projected runner up for the world series in 2026.
47:18 --> 47:18 [SPEAKER_01]: down.
47:19 --> 47:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a win for us.
47:21 --> 47:24 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know if they're going to be the Dodgers, but they're when the pen and throw parade.
47:25 --> 47:25 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll take it.
47:27 --> 47:32 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're asking me today, yes or no, do the Mariners make the world series in 2026.
47:32 --> 47:35 [SPEAKER_00]: If they're healthy, the answer is yes.
47:36 --> 47:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, you're putting your chips on the table, Tage.
47:41 --> 47:45 [SPEAKER_00]: Not to say, bet your mortgage, but I'm just saying that's what I feel confident in.
47:45 --> 47:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
47:47 --> 47:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that is another season predictions episode.
47:50 --> 47:51 [SPEAKER_01]: North you're doing it.
47:53 --> 47:59 [SPEAKER_00]: You got to make your given all the information available to you if you were to pick yes or no, or the Mariners going to the world series.
48:01 --> 48:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll say yes to get people fired up.
48:03 --> 48:04 [SPEAKER_01]: It's an anticipated season.
48:04 --> 48:05 [SPEAKER_01]: The team's going to be really good.
48:05 --> 48:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Say yes.
48:06 --> 48:07 [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
48:07 --> 48:07 [SPEAKER_01]: This is the year.
48:08 --> 48:10 [SPEAKER_00]: Marine Lair pod cast history.
48:10 --> 48:11 [SPEAKER_00]: Positivity.
48:11 --> 48:12 [SPEAKER_00]: How about it?
48:12 --> 48:14 [SPEAKER_00]: How see how much changes in a year?
48:14 --> 48:16 [SPEAKER_00]: This time last year.
48:17 --> 48:18 [SPEAKER_00]: Guys, are the Mariners making the playoffs?
48:19 --> 48:21 [SPEAKER_00]: No.
48:21 --> 48:21 [SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
48:22 --> 48:24 [SPEAKER_00]: 86 wins missing the playoffs.
48:24 --> 48:25 [SPEAKER_00]: New regime.
48:25 --> 48:28 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, world series time.
48:29 --> 48:29 [SPEAKER_01]: World series.
48:30 --> 48:31 [SPEAKER_01]: That was a really good episode.
48:32 --> 48:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Hope you guys enjoyed it.
48:33 --> 48:39 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll have Jason Churchill on to help preview the year on Wednesday's our final episode before opening day, and we are fired up.
48:40 --> 48:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, that just about wraps up this edition of the Marine Liar Podcast.
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49:08 --> 49:09 [SPEAKER_01]: That's TJ.
49:09 --> 49:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm Lyle.
49:09 --> 49:10 [SPEAKER_01]: It's always weird.
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