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00:00 --> 00:09 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey guys, just a reminder before we start this episode, our next live show is this Sunday, May the 17th over at Oxeno Hall on Oxeno Avenue right outside the ballpark.
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00:44 --> 00:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to episode number 402 of the Marine Lair podcast.
00:47 --> 00:56 [SPEAKER_03]: We welcome on Mariners catching prospect Luke Stevenson to talk about his introduction of Pro Ball, how he's doing in Everett, and his adjustment to the Pacific Northwest.
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01:49 --> 02:08 [SPEAKER_03]: And we hope you to this episode of the Marine Lair podcast part of the just baseball podcast network recording here on Tuesday evening May 12th, Lyle, let's give it up for Cal Raleigh, it's not Chris Davis, woo woo, you know what, this is very classic Aaron Goldsmith, classic Goldie.
02:08 --> 02:09 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you pick this up.
02:09 --> 02:13 [SPEAKER_02]: When Cal got up late in the game before his second hit here on Tuesday,
02:13 --> 02:25 [SPEAKER_02]: But after he broke his over 38 route, he comes up to the plate again, and Goldie very, very subtly just goes, incepts the Red Hot Cal Rally, nothing else.
02:25 --> 02:26 [SPEAKER_03]: He is Red Hot.
02:26 --> 02:27 [SPEAKER_03]: He's one for his last one.
02:27 --> 02:28 [SPEAKER_03]: It's true.
02:28 --> 02:33 [SPEAKER_03]: Just the first last one at bat, he's hitting a thousand, can't hit any otter.
02:34 --> 02:37 [SPEAKER_02]: It was a very, very goldy piece of humor to throw in there.
02:37 --> 02:43 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, thank God this whole thing's over for Cal, for the Mariners, for the fans, for everybody.
02:43 --> 02:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Just, it's done.
02:45 --> 02:49 [SPEAKER_02]: No more graphics on Twitter, no more baseball talking heads, discourse over it.
02:49 --> 02:50 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's done.
02:50 --> 02:51 [SPEAKER_02]: We can put it behind us.
02:52 --> 02:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Can I be honest?
02:54 --> 02:54 [SPEAKER_03]: OK.
02:55 --> 03:01 [SPEAKER_03]: I got a good laugh at the shameless and cowardly you know, four or one.
03:02 --> 03:05 [SPEAKER_02]: That's just mean, that's just I thought it was pretty funny.
03:05 --> 03:19 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I feel like Cal would laugh at that, too I mean, I'm sitting here with the trying to contain my own smile, but Just mean you want to pull a Nick cast the onos just death stare into a reporter somebody tries to crack a joke That's rude.
03:20 --> 03:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you see that the other day?
03:22 --> 03:23 [SPEAKER_02]: This year?
03:23 --> 03:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, it was like two days ago.
03:25 --> 03:29 [SPEAKER_02]: He ended up using Fernando Tatees' bat, hit a homer with it.
03:29 --> 03:40 [SPEAKER_02]: A reporter joked and asked if you were gonna give him a hard, if Cassiano's was gonna give Tatees a hard time that he hit a homerun with Tatees' bat before Tatees did because Fernando still doesn't have a homer this year.
03:40 --> 03:42 [SPEAKER_02]: And Cassiano should dance there.
03:42 --> 03:43 [SPEAKER_02]: He's like, that's rude.
03:44 --> 03:44 [SPEAKER_02]: Nothing else.
03:45 --> 03:50 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, he like, make me on the fuck up dude.
03:51 --> 03:53 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a dude.
03:53 --> 03:54 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a little intimidating.
03:54 --> 03:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't lie.
03:55 --> 03:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Castianos.
03:58 --> 03:59 [SPEAKER_02]: That's rude.
03:59 --> 04:00 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what he said to the reporter.
04:03 --> 04:05 [SPEAKER_02]: How much money did these guys make?
04:06 --> 04:06 [SPEAKER_02]: I know.
04:06 --> 04:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
04:07 --> 04:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot.
04:08 --> 04:14 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like you could take like just just a tiny bit of like... humor.
04:14 --> 04:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
04:14 --> 04:16 [SPEAKER_02]: But he's been like that forever.
04:16 --> 04:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Castianos.
04:16 --> 04:18 [SPEAKER_02]: He's always done stuff like that.
04:19 --> 04:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Dude, I teach their own.
04:22 --> 04:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the infamous home runs been attempted to be brought up with them before, and then he just ain't having it.
04:30 --> 04:30 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
04:30 --> 04:31 [SPEAKER_03]: What's his loss?
04:31 --> 04:34 [SPEAKER_03]: The world is a lot funnier, everyone.
04:35 --> 04:36 [SPEAKER_03]: When there's some humor in it.
04:36 --> 04:37 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
04:37 --> 04:39 [SPEAKER_03]: You actually like smile and relax a little bit.
04:39 --> 04:39 [SPEAKER_03]: I know.
04:40 --> 04:44 [SPEAKER_02]: But you know who was humorous and did have some fun with it all?
04:44 --> 04:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Cal, because when Cal got the hit and he reached first base, he puts his hands to the sky, when he scores, Josh Nailer gave him the baseball and he's laughing about it.
04:55 --> 05:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it was the actual ball from the game or Nailer just picked up a baseball from the dugout and was using it as a prop to mess with Cal.
05:00 --> 05:07 [SPEAKER_02]: But either way, you can see Cal had a good laugh about it and I'm sure he's thrilled for it to be over.
05:08 --> 05:14 [SPEAKER_03]: I saw that Logan made Cal Shower in his uniform last night, while the streak was still going.
05:15 --> 05:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Try and wash it off.
05:17 --> 05:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Listen man, that's dedication.
05:19 --> 05:22 [SPEAKER_02]: And shout out to Logan for having some influence on his friend, because clearly tell us.
05:22 --> 05:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Look what happened after the game ended on Monday night.
05:25 --> 05:33 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Cal Showered in his uniform to wash off the hit list streak, and he goes in today and he's wearing a pull-up stocks.
05:34 --> 05:35 [SPEAKER_03]: It goes pants rolled up.
05:37 --> 05:39 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he doesn't usually do that, does he?
05:39 --> 05:40 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no.
05:40 --> 05:41 [SPEAKER_03]: He's pulling out all the stops.
05:41 --> 05:45 [SPEAKER_03]: And you know what, Carol, he's going to do for at least the rest of me.
05:47 --> 05:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Where pull up socks?
05:48 --> 05:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
05:49 --> 05:50 [SPEAKER_02]: He's rolling his pants up.
05:52 --> 05:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just thought it was good to see him have some humor about it, though.
05:55 --> 06:00 [SPEAKER_02]: It also shows that when he's pressing, which every player does,
06:01 --> 06:12 [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't let it get to him the way that some other guys might because look at Cal, you're hearing stories about the showering in his uniform after a game in which he's over 36 at that point.
06:14 --> 06:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Look, I'm sure he's not happy he was hitting the way he's been hitting but at least he has the wear with all to at least like stay somewhat lighthearted enough beat and have some fun with it rather than.
06:25 --> 06:55 [SPEAKER_02]: the last guy who went through a streak like this in a mariner uniform can you imagine what somebody would have or what Jared Kelnick would have done if somebody told him to shower in his uniform to get rid of the the cold streak I don't think he would have done that not twenty twenty one Jared no I honestly don't know if Kelnick at any point would have done that especially not twenty twenty one Kelnick now he was he was wound really really really tight remember for Jared he had to go down and came back up to
06:55 --> 07:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which like that streak was probably sitting with him the entire time in Tacoma in his brain.
07:01 --> 07:05 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, oh, I'm on an O for 39 streak right now.
07:06 --> 07:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, oops, I mean, Cal, I mean, Cal's, okay, Cal's, what, 29, like, he's been through the trials of Major League Base, while he's been through slumps, filled you got his mind to a spot where, you know, you can kind of survive things like this.
07:23 --> 07:44 [SPEAKER_03]: So now the next step for Cal is to join the rest of this line up in hitting because I really don't have many complaints for the rest of the line like the team itself as we talked about on Monday's episode needs to find a way to score more consistently because you have two opportunities against the white socks where they score a run a piece in the final two games of the series.
07:45 --> 07:54 [SPEAKER_03]: that doesn't really make sense when the rest of the lineup is hitting and like eight of the nine guys in the lineup, you could say, yeah, they're hitting at X spot above average, which is great.
07:55 --> 08:03 [SPEAKER_03]: If Cal brings himself up to where those other guys are, I mean, I really hope this lineup will find a way to hit consistently.
08:03 --> 08:25 [SPEAKER_02]: There were two steps needed, Cal is gonna break his streak and now Cal needs to get a season stats back of a average and join this line up so they can reach hopefully near their maximum potential and he will, man, I'm just I know it's been a tough go through the first month and a half and Cal wants to start to figure it out before that oblique thing popped up or a side issue popped up, but I'm just
08:25 --> 08:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not worried about him at the end of the day, is he going to hit 60 home runs again probably not and I think we always knew that.
08:31 --> 08:36 [SPEAKER_02]: But we're going to look up at the end of the year and see a pretty typical CalRolli season.
08:36 --> 08:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty confident he's going to have over 30 homers.
08:39 --> 08:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty confident his WRC Plus is going to be somewhere in that 120 range.
08:43 --> 08:46 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty confident he's going to be playing really quality defense.
08:47 --> 08:48 [SPEAKER_02]: just not that worried about the guy.
08:49 --> 08:50 [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't press ultra hard.
08:51 --> 08:57 [SPEAKER_02]: He's never had a stretch like this in his career where he's just consistently been uncompetitive up at the plate.
08:58 --> 08:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Aside from when he first got up.
09:01 --> 09:03 [SPEAKER_02]: I just think he's
09:05 --> 09:09 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's two level headed paired with being too talented to let that last all year.
09:09 --> 09:12 [SPEAKER_02]: And even though we just saw him go through it, and baseball's a hard game.
09:12 --> 09:14 [SPEAKER_02]: You never know what weird things can happen, even to the best of players.
09:15 --> 09:23 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think whether it takes another week or another, three weeks or another month and a half, we're going to look up at the end of the year, and Cal is going to be totally fine.
09:25 --> 09:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
09:25 --> 09:27 [SPEAKER_03]: I have one more takeaway from these first two games in Houston.
09:29 --> 09:34 [SPEAKER_03]: I think the Astros might be worse than what I said they would be after the first time the two teams played.
09:35 --> 09:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, dude, are they the worst team in the American League?
09:38 --> 09:40 [SPEAKER_03]: They very well might be.
09:40 --> 09:42 [SPEAKER_03]: How does that turn around?
09:43 --> 09:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, Karei is out for the year, right?
09:45 --> 09:45 [SPEAKER_03]: For the year?
09:47 --> 09:50 [SPEAKER_03]: So, Jeremy Payne is rehabbing on his way back.
09:51 --> 09:52 [SPEAKER_03]: Yordon's been great.
09:53 --> 09:55 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll two days up there in age.
09:57 --> 10:01 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they got tattooed by my back, but tattooed by my looks terrible.
10:02 --> 10:04 [SPEAKER_03]: So, he was hurt.
10:05 --> 10:09 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm putting it in quotations because he was, he rehabbed pretty quickly.
10:09 --> 10:15 [SPEAKER_03]: It was supposed to be one single rehab start for him, but he was so bad in the minors.
10:15 --> 10:26 [SPEAKER_03]: They kept him down, still didn't really figure it out, comes back up to the big leagues and has a bad start, his era for the season sits over nine right now.
10:27 --> 10:54 [SPEAKER_02]: that was their premiere off season acquisition and the rest of the roster has either been hurt or underperforming now it's only been less than 15 big beginnings for him but yeah the first few outings of his career man it's been brutal he's not thrown strikes he's getting knocked around he's given up a bunch of runs there's been things like complaining about the the now being too hard in Seattle
10:55 --> 11:09 [SPEAKER_02]: the weather, the weather, yeah, like he's talked about it's been a really difficult adjustment from from Japan to major league baseball, which I'm sure it is, but all these things combined has been a rough go for me, so far.
11:09 --> 11:22 [SPEAKER_02]: And if you want to pile on to all the reasons to be concerned about the astros, I mean, you already talked about Korea and you talked about Pena and you've talked about some of the issues with the guys that are on the shelf with injuries or some of the guys that are getting up there in age without two they.
11:23 --> 11:28 [SPEAKER_02]: and you have an even factored in that Hunter Brown's gonna be out till what the All-Star Break, Josh Hader still not back.
11:30 --> 11:32 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, like where do they go for me, Irman?
11:34 --> 11:35 [SPEAKER_03]: Lizaru Montez.
11:38 --> 11:44 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll do Lazz and a pitching prospect for Yordon Alvarez.
11:45 --> 11:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep, no, I'm down.
11:47 --> 11:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Now the ashes would never let that happen.
11:49 --> 11:52 [SPEAKER_02]: But are we gonna try to speak it into existence, yes?
11:54 --> 11:56 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll I'll shoot him a trade package.
11:57 --> 12:02 [SPEAKER_03]: They might just want to trade him to the Atlanta Braves and said, which talk about a perfect fit for your done.
12:02 --> 12:13 [SPEAKER_03]: He's going to go to the Atlanta Braves and he's going to sign up a six year 72 million dollar extension with one percent of his contract going to the Atlanta Braves foundation.
12:14 --> 12:20 [SPEAKER_03]: And he is going to turn into the next ring of honor member for the Atlanta Braves on the other week.
12:22 --> 12:26 [SPEAKER_02]: But if he gets traded to the national league, the chances of him then becoming a mariner go up.
12:29 --> 12:30 [SPEAKER_02]: If he doesn't sign the extension.
12:30 --> 12:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, correct.
12:32 --> 12:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if he goes to a certain team, they don't play well and they have to flip them again.
12:36 --> 12:41 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I don't know how the Astros are gonna be competitive at all this year at this point.
12:41 --> 12:42 [SPEAKER_02]: They just don't seem like they have it.
12:43 --> 12:58 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners should not lose more than three games against the Astros the entire season, which at this rate, that means if they were to lose one in this series, winning three or four, still pretty good, one in the next series, and one in the series after that, that's it.
12:58 --> 12:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yes.
12:59 --> 13:03 [SPEAKER_03]: If they lose more games than that, that's very disappointing.
13:04 --> 13:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're the worst starting rotation in the league.
13:08 --> 13:09 [SPEAKER_02]: You're done's been struggling in the month of May.
13:09 --> 13:11 [SPEAKER_02]: We already talked about all the injuries they have.
13:12 --> 13:13 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a mess, man.
13:15 --> 13:15 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
13:15 --> 13:18 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, sucks for them.
13:18 --> 13:20 [SPEAKER_03]: They had their time in the limelight.
13:20 --> 13:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Now, now they're pretty bad.
13:21 --> 13:31 [SPEAKER_03]: We have some trade pieces to talk about, because there is one team in Major League Baseball that has already kind of waved to the white flag on the season and wants to do a restructuring.
13:31 --> 13:35 [SPEAKER_03]: We're going to talk about whether or not these players make sense for the Mariners, but first, let's pause here for an ad.
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14:41 --> 14:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Have you checked in on the San Francisco Giants this season, Lyle?
14:45 --> 14:47 [SPEAKER_02]: We follow the lead pretty close, so yeah.
14:48 --> 14:48 [SPEAKER_02]: They're not playing well.
14:49 --> 14:53 [SPEAKER_02]: They have a lot of veterans on big contracts on that team that all of a sudden are working.
14:54 --> 15:00 [SPEAKER_03]: a rookie manager who's said a lot of things to the media that people have had a whale of a time talk about.
15:01 --> 15:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Honestly, Lyle, question, would you rather have from like a communication perspective, not an experience perspective, a Tony Vitello, or a Dan Wilson?
15:12 --> 15:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Wow, I mean, I understand why people get rubbed the wrong way about Vitello.
15:25 --> 15:41 [SPEAKER_02]: But if you're somebody who does a podcast or content or even a traditional media person, aren't all of the unique very out there quotes, more beneficial?
15:41 --> 15:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
15:42 --> 15:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Like he should be way better.
15:43 --> 15:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, and he's still transparent.
15:46 --> 15:49 [SPEAKER_02]: I think like, look, maybe just two transparent.
15:49 --> 15:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
15:49 --> 15:50 [SPEAKER_02]: So there's a balance.
15:50 --> 15:54 [SPEAKER_02]: They're like, he could reel back a little bit of what he says.
15:54 --> 15:56 [SPEAKER_02]: but I appreciate the transparency.
15:57 --> 15:57 [SPEAKER_02]: I knew too.
15:58 --> 16:01 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, in terms of, yes, the communication style, don't even tell him.
16:02 --> 16:03 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
16:03 --> 16:04 [SPEAKER_03]: It's entertaining.
16:05 --> 16:08 [SPEAKER_03]: It might not be effective because the giants have been a total disaster.
16:09 --> 16:09 [SPEAKER_03]: What was it this week?
16:10 --> 16:16 [SPEAKER_03]: He called to the bullpen, but there's no one warming up.
16:16 --> 16:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
16:16 --> 16:17 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not a, it's not very good.
16:17 --> 16:23 [SPEAKER_03]: Or the factor using their top first base prospect, Bryce Eldridge off the bench.
16:23 --> 16:24 [SPEAKER_03]: at the big league level.
16:25 --> 16:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, so it's like, why wouldn't you just keep them in triple I if that's what you're going to do.
16:28 --> 16:29 [SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't make any sense.
16:30 --> 16:40 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, that comes into another part of the Giants where they have a guy with no experience running a baseball franchise, running a baseball franchise and buster posey.
16:42 --> 16:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, buster posey is not been very good at running the Giants.
16:48 --> 16:48 [SPEAKER_02]: no.
16:49 --> 16:52 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and he never worked in a front office before.
16:52 --> 16:54 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he just, I mean, well, that's not true.
16:55 --> 16:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Because he spit, do I have this right?
16:57 --> 17:01 [SPEAKER_02]: He spent time in the Giants front office after he retired before he became the actual GM.
17:02 --> 17:03 [SPEAKER_02]: He had some role.
17:03 --> 17:05 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how extensive it was.
17:05 --> 17:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying he's got a decade plus worth of experience in a front office role and in baseball operations, but I think he did something.
17:15 --> 17:40 [SPEAKER_03]: uh... let's see post-playing career he did something right uh... to this is right so whatever maybe not uh... so sorry ok i mean kind of so on september twenty first twenty twenty two to giants announced that pozy adjoined a thirty the thirty member ownership group the giants and served on the board of directors uh... so now then then no baseball operations experience
17:41 --> 17:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Pozy led the contract negotiations for Matt Chapman's extension, and then on September 30th of 2024, the giants announced that Pozy will be the president of baseball operations.
17:54 --> 17:57 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, nothing, no, not really, no.
17:57 --> 18:03 [SPEAKER_03]: And things are going not great for the giants, which means they have a lot of big contracts available.
18:04 --> 18:11 [SPEAKER_03]: I do want to note something though, before we dive into these guys that the giants have available and are trying to shed some money.
18:13 --> 18:24 [SPEAKER_03]: While I've not been off to the, uh, the greatest start on analyzing fits for the Mariners, so I do advise everybody that this is our opinion, and this is not fact wild.
18:24 --> 18:28 [SPEAKER_03]: Would you like to highlight a couple of, uh, misses we've had in the last couple of months?
18:29 --> 18:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, dude, we, uh, we have absolutely whiffed on a bunch of offseason acquisitions that we wanted, like a bunch of them.
18:37 --> 18:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Listen, we're going to keep shooting, but objectively we have missed.
18:44 --> 18:47 [SPEAKER_02]: We wanted Devon Williams or Bang in the drum non-stop forum.
18:47 --> 18:50 [SPEAKER_02]: He has been a disaster to start the year in Queens.
18:51 --> 18:52 [SPEAKER_02]: He's got a negative war.
18:52 --> 18:55 [SPEAKER_02]: He already sits at five and a half.
18:56 --> 19:00 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he ain't exactly living up to the Devon Williams type that he was in Milwaukee.
19:00 --> 19:00 [SPEAKER_02]: That's for sure.
19:00 --> 19:02 [SPEAKER_02]: That bounce back here that we were so sure he was going to have.
19:03 --> 19:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it hasn't happened so far.
19:05 --> 19:08 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we were interested in tattoo Emao, one point.
19:10 --> 19:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Could you imagine if the Mariners traded George Kirby, it's off season, got prospects back, and filled his rotation spot with Tetsuya, am I?
19:20 --> 19:23 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, oh, that's like a fireable move.
19:24 --> 19:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, ha ha.
19:25 --> 19:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Now it's only been 15 innings, but yes, as we sit here in the middle of May, bad.
19:29 --> 19:30 [SPEAKER_02]: What else should we highlight?
19:31 --> 19:32 [SPEAKER_02]: What else have we gotten wrong?
19:32 --> 19:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we'll speak of the devil.
19:34 --> 19:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I was furious when the Mariners didn't trade for Rafi Devers last spring.
19:39 --> 19:45 [SPEAKER_02]: When he got flipped from Boston to San Francisco, the Mariners had just won a game on that Sunday.
19:45 --> 19:54 [SPEAKER_02]: And I spent the next 48 hours, a legit miserable human being, to find out that he was available on the block and wasn't brought to Seattle.
19:54 --> 20:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Well he is now looking to get his contract traded at the Giants are looking to move him out of town and he's going to be at the age for the next 10 years who's now not hitting.
20:03 --> 20:05 [SPEAKER_03]: who's owed $226 million.
20:05 --> 20:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Anything else?
20:08 --> 20:09 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, oh, there's been some others.
20:10 --> 20:11 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I mean, keep going.
20:11 --> 20:13 [SPEAKER_03]: He took hasn't been great this year.
20:13 --> 20:15 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, keep my guy's name out of your mouth dog.
20:16 --> 20:16 [SPEAKER_02]: We ain't talking about him.
20:18 --> 20:22 [SPEAKER_03]: Gal Tucker's been, what, 10% of Lee Gavritch is a hit or this year?
20:22 --> 20:25 [SPEAKER_03]: And he's making more than Showhail Tony.
20:25 --> 20:26 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
20:26 --> 20:27 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I still want him.
20:29 --> 20:30 [SPEAKER_02]: He'll be fine.
20:30 --> 20:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Can he hit, can he hit lefties?
20:33 --> 20:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, he's hit lefty's most of his career Z hit lefty's this year through the middle of May.
20:39 --> 20:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I haven't checked this puttunes Blets.
20:40 --> 20:46 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna be totally honest, but I think there was one more where oh, I mean we've spent a lot of time talking about Kattelmarté.
20:46 --> 20:56 [SPEAKER_03]: I know we ended up saying we would not do the trade for the price And I can tell why given that Kattelmarté now has a 73 WRC plus this season.
20:57 --> 21:02 [SPEAKER_03]: He will also probably be a DH going forward Any as a full-note trade clause now
21:03 --> 21:29 [SPEAKER_02]: do you want to count polo to we really wanted him back or a block was not been very good bread and on and it's been significantly better than Jorge polanco and listen if you even want to throw another sport in there and you want to and you want to flash back a couple years i mean i was i was so sure Anthony Richardson was going to be the next superstar quarterback in the NFL that i was like
21:29 --> 21:35 [SPEAKER_02]: I was losing my mind when he didn't make it to the fifth pick, because I was like, oh, the seahawks have to take that pick and run to the podium.
21:35 --> 21:40 [SPEAKER_02]: If Anthony Richardson falls the five, and well, that would have been a colossal mistake.
21:41 --> 21:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Because what there's spoons been way better.
21:44 --> 22:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Whether spoons the arguably the best player on their defense and the Richardson can't get on the field They brought in Philip Rivers before letting Anthony Richardson start that's not true Richardson was hurt But still they did have to bring in Philip Rivers anyway Are we gonna are we gonna keep shooting?
22:01 --> 22:04 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely like do I regret any of these takes?
22:04 --> 22:06 [SPEAKER_02]: slightly, am I going to learn from it?
22:06 --> 22:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely not.
22:08 --> 22:11 [SPEAKER_02]: If I see a big name out on the trademark it, am I going to say the marriage you're going to get them?
22:11 --> 22:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because I'm an emotional fan and a dumbass podcaster, I'm never going to learn my lesson.
22:17 --> 22:25 [SPEAKER_02]: So yes, when I see superstars out there available for trade, or available for signing, I'm going to say yes, bring them to Seattle.
22:26 --> 22:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Because there's also a lot we've gotten right.
22:29 --> 22:30 [SPEAKER_02]: We're just highlighting some of the ones we've gotten wrong.
22:31 --> 22:33 [SPEAKER_03]: We missed one from the soft season.
22:33 --> 22:43 [SPEAKER_03]: Rob Raff Snyder, as of right now, where we said, in quote, well, Rob Raff Snyder has almost everything in common with AJ Pollock, but don't worry guys, don't worry.
22:43 --> 22:47 [SPEAKER_03]: Rob Raff Snyder will not be AJ Pollock.
22:47 --> 22:50 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, let's hope he fixes that pretty fast.
22:50 --> 22:51 [SPEAKER_03]: My hope so.
22:51 --> 22:56 [SPEAKER_03]: Otherwise, we might have to go back and clip that part of the podcast.
22:56 --> 22:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe we'll publish it.
22:59 --> 23:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Any others we missed?
23:02 --> 23:05 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's a pretty good run for this offseason dog.
23:05 --> 23:06 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if we need any more.
23:08 --> 23:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
23:08 --> 23:12 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the Richardson thing is a different season in a different sport, but yeah.
23:12 --> 23:12 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
23:12 --> 23:13 [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
23:13 --> 23:14 [SPEAKER_03]: So let's talk about these giants.
23:14 --> 23:20 [SPEAKER_03]: There are four giants who it sounds like Buster posing company trying to offload their salaries.
23:21 --> 23:24 [SPEAKER_03]: Junghulie, William Domus, Rafi Devers, Matt Chapman.
23:24 --> 23:25 [SPEAKER_03]: We can go through all of them.
23:26 --> 23:31 [SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna spend the most time on Matt Chapman, so let's do him first, because he's really the only realistic option.
23:31 --> 23:33 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like for the Mariners, I have all of these guys.
23:34 --> 23:41 [SPEAKER_03]: Matt Chapman right now is owed $125 million remaining over the final four years in change of his contract.
23:41 --> 23:41 [SPEAKER_03]: He's currently 33.
23:41 --> 23:51 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners, if they were to trade for him, we'll have him through his age 37 season.
23:51 --> 23:55 [SPEAKER_03]: with about average for himself, strike out and walk rates.
23:56 --> 23:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Does that entice you?
24:00 --> 24:02 [SPEAKER_02]: There are parts of his game that entice me.
24:05 --> 24:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Like other parts.
24:06 --> 24:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
24:08 --> 24:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the fact that he's still a really good defender.
24:11 --> 24:14 [SPEAKER_02]: He's a right-handed bat who hits left-handed pitching.
24:15 --> 24:20 [SPEAKER_02]: And long-term is going to fill a position in need, because the Mariners don't know what they're doing long-term at third base.
24:20 --> 24:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Brendan Donovan, I think we'll just slide the left field next year when Randy Rosaraine has likely gone because it hasn't gone smoothly for him at third basis year.
24:29 --> 24:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Coltheimer said he'll play shortstop next year when J.P.'s probably gone, and the third basement, you'd have one.
24:36 --> 24:45 [SPEAKER_03]: I just wonder how he will age because you're not getting Matt Chapman when the Mariners wanted to trade for him back in his 20s.
24:46 --> 24:53 [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to get ages 33, 34, 35, 36 and 37 of Matt Chapman.
24:53 --> 24:57 [SPEAKER_03]: That is a lot of old Matt Chapman.
24:57 --> 24:59 [SPEAKER_03]: He's not really showing sides of aging.
24:59 --> 25:02 [SPEAKER_03]: His problem this year is he's hitting too many balls on the ground.
25:02 --> 25:09 [SPEAKER_03]: it's not a problem with bat speed, his athleticism, it seems like is roughly the same as it was earlier in earlier years.
25:09 --> 25:12 [SPEAKER_03]: But that doesn't mean that's going to hold his entire time.
25:13 --> 25:19 [SPEAKER_03]: The other thing with Matt Chapman is he doesn't have as much wiggle room offensively because he's been a good offensive player.
25:19 --> 25:21 [SPEAKER_03]: He's never been a great offensive player.
25:21 --> 25:29 [SPEAKER_03]: So when he starts regressing, instead of regressing from great to good or great to average, he could regress from
25:29 --> 25:30 [SPEAKER_03]: quickly.
25:30 --> 25:35 [SPEAKER_03]: And then all of a sudden, the murders are on the hook for $100 million, but player in his mid-30s.
25:36 --> 25:41 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a comparison here that, from the soft season, that there's another team in the national league that is experiencing this.
25:42 --> 25:48 [SPEAKER_03]: That's no one there or not, no one there or not, it was started falling off right around this age.
25:48 --> 25:56 [SPEAKER_03]: And since no one there or not, oh, hit age 32, he's been a league average to below league average, the offense of player.
25:56 --> 26:03 [SPEAKER_03]: And as of this year, Lyle, no one there or not, it was now no longer in a league defense of players about league average.
26:03 --> 26:11 [SPEAKER_03]: And there's a chance with Matt Chapman as he gets in age 34, 35, and on, that would be the case.
26:12 --> 26:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a lot of years.
26:15 --> 26:19 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think this is a slam dunk conclusion that the Mariners should run to the podium with this trade idea.
26:19 --> 26:24 [SPEAKER_02]: All I said when we talked about it on social media, the other day was, would I be interested in this?
26:25 --> 26:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm interested.
26:26 --> 26:31 [SPEAKER_02]: Interested doesn't necessarily have to mean I'm pulling the trigger without thought.
26:31 --> 26:34 [SPEAKER_02]: But I'd be interested in the conversation.
26:34 --> 26:37 [SPEAKER_02]: I'd be interested in how much money the giants would ask the mariners to eat.
26:38 --> 26:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm interested in how much the giants would want back and prospects from the mariners.
26:42 --> 26:48 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm interested to do more of a dive on Chapman's profile like we're doing right here in Sadie or South could this fit.
26:49 --> 26:59 [SPEAKER_02]: And when you look at the long-term outlook of the mariners, even before we dive further into Chapman, I'll just ask you, who is playing third base from them for them next year and moving forward?
27:02 --> 27:05 [SPEAKER_03]: Not Matt Chapman, okay, but who is it?
27:10 --> 27:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Rhyvelis.
27:12 --> 27:14 [SPEAKER_02]: So you're picking up what I'm putting down here.
27:15 --> 27:16 [SPEAKER_02]: There's not a solution.
27:17 --> 27:21 [SPEAKER_03]: I think you trade for someone who's a better fit at their base to Matt Chapman would be.
27:23 --> 27:27 [SPEAKER_03]: This would be the largest contract by far the Mariners would ever trade for.
27:28 --> 27:31 [SPEAKER_03]: This is the type of
27:32 --> 27:38 [SPEAKER_03]: there's a like there's a number of reasons for me what I would not do this and I think the Mariners need to upgrade third base this season.
27:39 --> 27:40 [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't think it's going to be matte Chapman.
27:41 --> 27:42 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure people are going to get what they want.
27:43 --> 27:46 [SPEAKER_03]: If the Mariners go out there and they acquire matte Chapman will the defense get better at third?
27:47 --> 27:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, will the offense get better?
27:51 --> 27:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, better than Brendan Donovan.
27:53 --> 27:53 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
27:53 --> 27:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but you're not comparing Matt Chapman to Brendan Donovan.
27:57 --> 27:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Brendan Donovan is still going to be in the lineup basically every day.
28:00 --> 28:03 [SPEAKER_02]: You'd be comparing Matt Chapman to whoever you'd remove from the lineup.
28:04 --> 28:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Who are you moving from the lineup?
28:06 --> 28:08 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, this is where it gets interesting this year, right?
28:09 --> 28:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Is you would have to really figure it out so to speak and find ways to make it work throughout 26.
28:15 --> 28:21 [SPEAKER_02]: But after 26, there is a positional availability to make it work.
28:21 --> 28:23 [SPEAKER_02]: If you were to choose, this is the path you want.
28:23 --> 28:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Because again, Donovan would slide to left next year.
28:26 --> 28:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Colt Emerson's gonna play short.
28:28 --> 28:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Third base would be out there.
28:31 --> 28:34 [SPEAKER_02]: This year, yeah, you would have to really maneuver some things around.
28:35 --> 28:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you might have to trade one of your left-handed bats off the roster, which the way Rayleigh and Kanson have hit this here, people may not want to do, and I get it.
28:46 --> 28:49 [SPEAKER_03]: See that from a process perspective doesn't really make sense.
28:49 --> 28:53 [SPEAKER_03]: Like it fits next year, but if you're aiming for next year, want to target a young guy.
28:54 --> 29:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Well that'd be great, but young stars started third baseman that are available don't grow on trees.
29:01 --> 29:02 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't need a star.
29:02 --> 29:04 [SPEAKER_03]: I just need someone to play third.
29:04 --> 29:06 [SPEAKER_03]: Who knows how Matt Chapman's going to be next, sure it eats 34.
29:07 --> 29:15 [SPEAKER_03]: What if Matt Chapman, all of a sudden, turns into a 90 WRC plus third baseman with just above average defense at third base?
29:16 --> 29:19 [SPEAKER_03]: You're telling me you can't get that for League minimum?
29:19 --> 29:20 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you probably can.
29:21 --> 29:27 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, I'm not full on, yes, 100% no questions asked.
29:27 --> 29:27 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm interested.
29:29 --> 29:30 [SPEAKER_02]: But,
29:31 --> 29:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Number one, this lineup is so left-handed heavy, and it's getting a more left-handed heavy.
29:36 --> 29:40 [SPEAKER_02]: All the prospects the Mariners have come in through the system, stands Michael O'Royal that are hitters.
29:41 --> 29:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Lefties, cold Emerson, lefty, Lazz Montez, lefty, Johnny Farmelo, lefty.
29:47 --> 29:48 [SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna have to find some righties here eventually.
29:49 --> 29:51 [SPEAKER_02]: Randy's gonna leave, there's one out the door.
29:53 --> 29:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Matt Chapman is a right-handed hitting third baseman that hits lefties pretty well.
29:58 --> 29:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Perfect, they'll play in good defense.
30:00 --> 30:08 [SPEAKER_02]: And you'd look up at the end of the day and say, yeah, you could probably still get three wins out of that guy for the next couple of years at the very least.
30:08 --> 30:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, is that worth taking on all the money he's going to be owed?
30:14 --> 30:20 [SPEAKER_02]: That's up for interpretation, because one war if it's worth about $8 million would actually line up to about what Chapman's going to make.
30:21 --> 30:26 [SPEAKER_02]: But you may not also want to take on a $24 million contract just from a business perspective.
30:27 --> 30:34 [SPEAKER_03]: To me of the sales pitch for Matt, the sales pitch for Matt Chapman is he will fit on the twenty twenty seven roster that I'm like I'm just out.
30:36 --> 30:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, he'd fit on this roster.
30:37 --> 30:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean he won the nine best well he'd be one of the nine best players on the roster.
30:41 --> 30:42 [SPEAKER_02]: You would just have to do some shuffling.
30:44 --> 30:45 [SPEAKER_03]: You you do not have room for him.
30:47 --> 30:52 [SPEAKER_03]: You'd be subtracting from other areas of your roster to fit Matt Chapman in.
30:52 --> 30:53 [SPEAKER_03]: For example, you're right.
30:53 --> 31:05 [SPEAKER_03]: You would have to move one of your left handed bats, dumb canzone or Matt Chapman, or you get rid of one of your right handed bats, off the bench, Rob Raff Snyder, potentially to put Matt Chapman in.
31:05 --> 31:09 [SPEAKER_03]: But then you would be essentially newking part of Matt Chapman's game.
31:10 --> 31:22 [SPEAKER_03]: And again, and let's JP Crawford is for some reason willing to become the Mariners full-time DH, which we've gotten zero impression of that that's going to be any sort of reality, right?
31:23 --> 31:30 [SPEAKER_03]: So now, if he, if he does not, if you can't find a place for him to play this year, then saying,
31:31 --> 31:40 [SPEAKER_03]: because he will fit the Mariners roster as a three four-year-old a year from now is to me not not a good enough sales pitch to trade for Matt Chapman.
31:41 --> 31:43 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm I'm out on Matt Chapman.
31:43 --> 31:45 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's I think the contract might be a poison pill.
31:46 --> 31:52 [SPEAKER_03]: I think the Mariners would deeply regret having that kind of money on the books, especially when they have guys they want to sign unsigned.
31:54 --> 31:56 [SPEAKER_03]: But what if you don't have to take on all the money?
31:58 --> 31:59 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you, you would have to take on all of money.
32:00 --> 32:02 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, what if it's two thirds?
32:03 --> 32:11 [SPEAKER_03]: That's still enough money for the Mariners to, to not want to spend elsewhere, I think.
32:12 --> 32:13 [SPEAKER_03]: Like this is what they showed in the past.
32:14 --> 32:20 [SPEAKER_02]: But if they take on this deal, you mean they won't go add in addition, much of dead lines, et cetera.
32:20 --> 32:25 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think they should spend more, but I mean, I don't make the decisions on spending.
32:25 --> 32:34 [SPEAKER_03]: So if you're trying to make the roster better, is that 12 or even like $18 million you're taking on for Matt Chapman to play third base part time worth it?
32:36 --> 32:38 [SPEAKER_02]: No, he wouldn't play third base part time.
32:38 --> 32:40 [SPEAKER_02]: You'd be trading form to play there every day.
32:42 --> 32:43 [SPEAKER_03]: still really hurt.
32:43 --> 32:49 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you're still taking somebody off the infield, which it would make sense.
32:49 --> 32:54 [SPEAKER_03]: JP Crawford is willing to move to DH full time, but that doesn't seem like that's going to happen.
32:54 --> 32:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, Cold Emerson's also not up yet.
32:57 --> 32:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's say the trade happened in the next week.
32:59 --> 33:00 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to worry about it.
33:00 --> 33:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Yet, when Cold's ready, then you figure it out.
33:04 --> 33:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure, maybe for two months, three months, whatever would be when Cold gets up.
33:10 --> 33:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Somebody would have to sit JP down and tell him that, yeah, primarily, you're going to start DHing.
33:14 --> 33:16 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, mix in some days at shortstop for you.
33:16 --> 33:20 [SPEAKER_02]: There are ways you can make it work if you really decide he's worth it.
33:21 --> 33:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even sitting here saying he is fully worth it.
33:23 --> 33:25 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sitting here saying yes, you have to go do this.
33:25 --> 33:28 [SPEAKER_02]: But if you're trying to maneuver how the roster would make sense for...
33:29 --> 33:32 [SPEAKER_02]: If you were to trade for him and make it work this year, there was a way.
33:32 --> 33:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Because Cold Emerson still strike it out of decent bed.
33:35 --> 33:37 [SPEAKER_02]: He's not light in the world on fire into coma yet.
33:37 --> 33:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't wait until he does because I'm fired up to see him get Seattle.
33:41 --> 33:44 [SPEAKER_02]: But in the meantime, it's not imminent.
33:45 --> 33:50 [SPEAKER_02]: So there is like a way that you can maneuver it all around.
33:51 --> 33:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Is it perfect?
33:52 --> 33:52 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
33:53 --> 33:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Am I saying it's the most sound move in the world?
33:55 --> 33:56 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
33:56 --> 34:20 [SPEAKER_02]: but just to try to make the argument for why it could work, because for a team that's been as awful defensively as you can draw up, you're getting a pretty damn good third baseman at the hot corner, who also when he's not putting balls into the ground, like he is through the first six weeks of this season, pretty good offensive player that's gonna leave the yard, it's gonna draw his walks, and also play good defense.
34:20 --> 34:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Final note for me on Metchabin.
34:27 --> 34:28 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that is a good question.
34:30 --> 34:44 [SPEAKER_02]: The way they're playing and the fact they just came off a near-world series appearance paired to the disaster class that's going on in San Francisco right now, I feel like that's not as much of a hold-up now as it once was.
34:45 --> 34:46 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a little less less.
34:47 --> 34:50 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like he's a Boris guy, but he's got his last contract.
34:50 --> 34:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Matt Chapman's not getting another deal after this.
34:52 --> 35:01 [SPEAKER_02]: So I don't really know why if Scott Boris were gonna metal in this at all, why he would care at this point because he knows Chapman's not getting paid again.
35:02 --> 35:05 [SPEAKER_03]: And this last one comes from a Mariners perspective.
35:06 --> 35:11 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners said the option two years ago to pay Matt Chapman a one-year deal for about $20 million.
35:11 --> 35:12 [SPEAKER_03]: They did not want to.
35:13 --> 35:16 [SPEAKER_03]: Now Matt Chapman is owed more money over more time.
35:16 --> 35:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Do we have any reason to believe they would take on that money?
35:21 --> 35:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, given the way they've operated, no.
35:24 --> 35:28 [SPEAKER_02]: But this conversation isn't about, at least I don't think.
35:28 --> 35:31 [SPEAKER_02]: It hasn't been about how the Mariners
35:31 --> 35:33 [SPEAKER_02]: would or should operate.
35:33 --> 35:36 [SPEAKER_02]: This is about, would you, would I be interested in this?
35:36 --> 35:38 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm saying, yes, I'm interested.
35:38 --> 35:44 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm not saying I'd pull the trigger blindly, but I'm saying I, I can listen to an open conversation about it.
35:45 --> 35:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, what the mariners would do?
35:46 --> 35:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's less likely.
35:47 --> 35:50 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's less of a conversation if we're going to be totally honest.
35:51 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll put my stamp on Matt Chapman.
35:52 --> 35:52 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a no.
35:53 --> 35:54 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm out.
35:55 --> 35:55 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a maybe.
35:58 --> 35:59 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's go to these next guys.
36:00 --> 36:03 [SPEAKER_03]: These will be quick because La and I are pretty consensus on these.
36:04 --> 36:07 [SPEAKER_03]: Raffy Davers is owed over $200 million.
36:07 --> 36:09 [SPEAKER_03]: He's right now 29 years old.
36:09 --> 36:11 [SPEAKER_03]: He's got seven and a half years left on his deal.
36:12 --> 36:13 [SPEAKER_03]: His bat speed is way down.
36:13 --> 36:16 [SPEAKER_03]: His plate discipline is trending in the wrong direction.
36:16 --> 36:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Lyle, would you trade for Raffy Davers?
36:21 --> 36:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Despite how badly I wanted him a year ago?
36:23 --> 36:24 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
36:24 --> 36:30 [SPEAKER_02]: because he has trained at the wrong way since the minute he left Boston, he's going to be a de-age for the next 10 years.
36:30 --> 36:34 [SPEAKER_02]: And he is owed one heck of a chunk of change.
36:34 --> 36:34 [SPEAKER_02]: So no.
36:36 --> 36:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Jung-Hoo-Lee, career league average hitter.
36:39 --> 36:42 [SPEAKER_03]: He swings left handed, owed $85 million.
36:42 --> 36:46 [SPEAKER_03]: And he is one of the worst defenders in Major League based on the outfield.
36:46 --> 36:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Lyle, would you trade for Jung-Hoo-Lee?
36:48 --> 36:50 [SPEAKER_03]: He's owed $85 million, by the way.
36:50 --> 36:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think you said that.
36:53 --> 36:55 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how they trade this contract to be honest.
36:55 --> 37:00 [SPEAKER_02]: The other three names that'll be on this list, I mean, they are stars with past history of being great.
37:01 --> 37:09 [SPEAKER_02]: So it wouldn't shock me to see teams call and check in and engage and talk with these other three guys, but Jung Hulu, me man, I don't know.
37:09 --> 37:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Bad defense, not hitting for pot, owed a lot of money.
37:13 --> 37:15 [SPEAKER_02]: That's gonna be a tough contract to trade.
37:17 --> 37:17 [SPEAKER_03]: So no.
37:18 --> 37:18 [SPEAKER_03]: No.
37:19 --> 37:30 [SPEAKER_03]: William Domus, 30 years old, he is grating out the worst offensively as he has in his entire major league career, and he is actually rated worse in Alts above average than JP Crawford right now.
37:31 --> 37:35 [SPEAKER_03]: First percentile in Alts above average for William Domus.
37:35 --> 38:01 [SPEAKER_03]: He's owed more money than Matt Chapman and the number one thing the Mariners need from trading for a William Thomas type or right handed hitting shortstop is for him for him to hit left handed pitching while the last five years against left handed pitching will for William Thomas this year 17 WRC plus 2025 95 24 78 23 110 22 92 would you trade for William Thomas?
38:02 --> 38:05 [SPEAKER_02]: No, and I don't know what the hell happened to this dude, man.
38:06 --> 38:09 [SPEAKER_02]: He used to be one of the elite short stops in Major League Baseball.
38:09 --> 38:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Now he's totally lost it.
38:12 --> 38:16 [SPEAKER_02]: When you're hitting like that against lefties as a right handed bat, that ain't a good sign.
38:17 --> 38:20 [SPEAKER_02]: They ain't a good sign for the majority of what his game is displayed as a late.
38:21 --> 38:31 [SPEAKER_02]: But when you've been below average as a hitter against left handed pitching for the last five years,
38:31 --> 38:31 [SPEAKER_02]: right now.
38:32 --> 38:32 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
38:32 --> 38:33 [SPEAKER_02]: No, you can't do that.
38:34 --> 38:34 [SPEAKER_02]: That offense.
38:34 --> 38:35 [SPEAKER_02]: That defense.
38:35 --> 38:37 [SPEAKER_02]: Big contract is on the wrong side of 30.
38:38 --> 38:38 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
38:40 --> 38:42 [SPEAKER_03]: And he has been in his career.
38:42 --> 38:44 [SPEAKER_03]: One of the most volatile players in Major League Baseball.
38:44 --> 38:46 [SPEAKER_03]: The defense has been volatile.
38:46 --> 38:47 [SPEAKER_03]: The offense has been volatile.
38:47 --> 38:51 [SPEAKER_03]: When he was young, he straight-up could not hit at Tropicana Field.
38:53 --> 38:57 [SPEAKER_03]: The race traded him because for some reason he could not hit at their ballpark.
38:57 --> 38:59 [SPEAKER_03]: in Milwaukee, he could hit at home.
38:59 --> 39:09 [SPEAKER_03]: San Francisco, I mean, he hit 30 homers last year, but now he's got the combination of all the things that would just literally would not fit the Mariners.
39:09 --> 39:11 [SPEAKER_03]: The Mariners cannot add a defender on the infield.
39:11 --> 39:18 [SPEAKER_03]: That is worse than what they currently have on the infield, already having one of the worst defensive infields in Major League Baseball.
39:19 --> 39:19 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll pass.
39:21 --> 39:22 [SPEAKER_03]: So, Giants are in a bit of a mess.
39:23 --> 39:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's a mess.
39:26 --> 39:31 [SPEAKER_02]: We're always pro-spend more money because we think majorly baseball teams should in general.
39:32 --> 39:41 [SPEAKER_02]: But there are formulas out there that you can point to for what happens when you don't spend smart and it goes south real fast.
39:41 --> 39:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Giants can look at the meds to look at a couple others.
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40:47 --> 40:48 [SPEAKER_03]: Luke Stevenson was awesome.
40:48 --> 40:50 [SPEAKER_03]: We went up to Everett last week.
40:51 --> 40:57 [SPEAKER_03]: Got to sit down with them for about 25 minutes and chat with him about becoming a pro.
40:57 --> 41:04 [SPEAKER_03]: He's not been to the state of Washington before being drafted by the Mariners and playing an Everett.
41:04 --> 41:06 [SPEAKER_03]: he's on fire in every right now.
41:07 --> 41:09 [SPEAKER_03]: We're expecting to see him in Arkansas soon.
41:09 --> 41:15 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think this is a good look into the personality of Luke Stephenson, which we didn't realize this before we went up there loud.
41:15 --> 41:17 [SPEAKER_03]: He's not a guy who's done very many interviews.
41:17 --> 41:20 [SPEAKER_03]: So this is almost kind of the first of its kind.
41:20 --> 41:26 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he said this was the first legit sit-down long-form interview he's done.
41:27 --> 41:29 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure he's talked to some reporters.
41:29 --> 41:33 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure he's been in a couple media scrums at North Carolina.
41:33 --> 41:40 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, doesn't sound like he's done many truths sit down podcast interviews, TV interviews, long-form interviews, especially with a camera.
41:41 --> 41:42 [SPEAKER_02]: But he was great, he was awesome.
41:43 --> 41:51 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we've met a few fans that have gotten a chance to either take a photo with Luke Stephenson or met him at Spring Training and said he was awesome.
41:52 --> 41:57 [SPEAKER_02]: And us getting to be around him the little bit that we have both down in Piora and now sitting down to do the episode with him?
41:57 --> 41:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's awesome.
41:58 --> 42:02 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you can tell why he's a catcher.
42:03 --> 42:28 [SPEAKER_02]: like upbeat he's he's fun man and and I think Mariners fans are gonna well they've already enjoyed his game because he's light in the world on fire and ever it but I think people are gonna enjoy this interview and I think people are gonna enjoy watching Luke Stevens in from your for years to come and he's a pretty easy guy to root for too so I'm hoping people are gonna really enjoy this one when they check it out we will keep you guys any longer we'll get you to the interview with Luke Stevens him
42:31 --> 42:33 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, we're out here at Funko Field in the Everett and this is pretty cool.
42:33 --> 42:36 [SPEAKER_02]: We get to sit down with Mariners catching prospect Luke Stephenson.
42:36 --> 42:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Luke, thanks for hopping on, man.
42:38 --> 42:38 [SPEAKER_02]: How's everything treating you?
42:38 --> 42:39 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been good.
42:39 --> 42:39 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been good, yeah.
42:39 --> 42:42 [SPEAKER_01]: I've been out here for a month, so can't complain.
42:42 --> 42:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Early impressions of Seattle.
42:44 --> 42:45 [SPEAKER_02]: This is the most time you've ever spent out here.
42:45 --> 42:46 [SPEAKER_02]: Different?
42:46 --> 42:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's definitely different, but it kind of...
42:48 --> 42:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm from New Jersey, so it reminds me a little bit of that Northease vibe.
42:53 --> 42:55 [SPEAKER_01]: But now there's a lot of good restaurants out here, so I've enjoyed it.
42:55 --> 42:55 [SPEAKER_03]: Mine is the bagels.
42:56 --> 42:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Mine is the bagels and the pizza.
42:57 --> 42:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
42:58 --> 43:00 [SPEAKER_03]: Have you found anything like half as good?
43:00 --> 43:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I haven't tried.
43:02 --> 43:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I've mainly been cooking breakfast and then they feed us dinner six times a week So I haven't really been how to desire for pizza, so are you only a two-meal a day guy?
43:10 --> 43:12 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm three they feed us.
43:12 --> 43:20 [SPEAKER_03]: They feed us pre-game post game and then I just have breakfast at the apartment You hadn't spent a ton of time out here before Now being assigned to every right now.
43:20 --> 43:26 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is my first time in the Pacific Northwest What was the biggest Washington state culture shock for you?
43:28 --> 43:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess maybe just like the rain and like how much trees there are but like I said I'm from the northeast like it's it's pretty similar But yeah, a lot more rain than I'm used to it's like the trees are just taller.
43:36 --> 43:48 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're a little taller taller greener and did the mountain catch you off guard I have I have seen Mount Rainier before I think the mountains are sick like driving around seeing the mountains like always in like the backview.
43:48 --> 43:49 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the mountains are sick.
43:49 --> 43:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not used to that
43:51 --> 43:56 [SPEAKER_02]: What was the, when you say it's similar to the Northeast as it is to in Seattle, like in what way, if you can allow it?
43:57 --> 44:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Like there's small shops, like little coffee shops, the little like, like the coffee, little like drive there's like, just like stuff like that.
44:04 --> 44:10 [SPEAKER_01]: Just like a little like New Jersey's like older mom and pop shops and there's some out here where like being in North Carolina, like there's not a lot of this.
44:10 --> 44:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm used to that.
44:11 --> 44:13 [SPEAKER_03]: You go up the mountains at all, are you hiker?
44:13 --> 44:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not.
44:14 --> 44:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not.
44:14 --> 44:20 [SPEAKER_01]: It's also like maybe the summer I will when he's up a little bit, but now I haven't
44:20 --> 44:25 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you feel like you're gonna be a guy on your off days that goes out and does things or are you gonna be a recover on your off days?
44:25 --> 44:28 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna think about this from Cal's perspective for a second.
44:28 --> 44:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Cal takes a beating at the big league level all the time.
44:31 --> 44:34 [SPEAKER_03]: You can see it by the amount of work he has done on him before the game.
44:35 --> 44:37 [SPEAKER_03]: And it feels like when he gets a day off, he's just like kind of chillin'.
44:38 --> 44:40 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm wondering from a catcher like how that is for you.
44:40 --> 44:44 [SPEAKER_01]: So far it's been more like chill off days.
44:45 --> 44:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't golf yet.
44:46 --> 44:49 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been more like sleeping, go get some food.
44:49 --> 44:58 [SPEAKER_01]: I've tried some spots out here, but I'm more of a landbed as long as I can go walk around, go eat some food, just completely just decompress.
44:58 --> 45:01 [SPEAKER_03]: All right, I have to ask, what time did you eat your PB&J today?
45:02 --> 45:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't had one.
45:03 --> 45:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we have it.
45:04 --> 45:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, we have to make them ourselves and at Carolina, they made them for us.
45:09 --> 45:12 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was pretty spoiled there and I don't have the energy to make it myself.
45:12 --> 45:14 [SPEAKER_01]: So I just, I just snack on some trail mix.
45:15 --> 45:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so let's, let's debunk this story.
45:17 --> 45:24 [SPEAKER_02]: Now that we're sitting down here live with you, we've heard it around the edges and from third parties, from a couple people, the 1500 p.m. Jay's a year is exaggerated, right?
45:24 --> 45:25 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a little far-fetched.
45:25 --> 45:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, it's a little bit far-fetched.
45:27 --> 45:29 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was taken out of proportion.
45:29 --> 45:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I have a lot like like I would I would eat a lot of peanut butter and jellies 1500 would be would be concerning.
45:37 --> 45:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean you're talking to a person who eats one every single day There's one of my bag right now.
45:41 --> 45:42 [SPEAKER_02]: We're done with this.
45:42 --> 45:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna have it.
45:43 --> 45:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure, but
45:44 --> 45:46 [SPEAKER_02]: So when you're here, you don't make them yourself.
45:46 --> 45:48 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to have your- I probably had two since I've been out here.
45:48 --> 45:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
45:49 --> 45:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I've made one like before a game on the road.
45:51 --> 45:53 [SPEAKER_01]: There's like, we got there.
45:53 --> 45:54 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like two hours before a spread came.
45:54 --> 45:57 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, yeah, I'll fix up a little Peter Muddler and John.
45:57 --> 45:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so how do you think they got the number?
45:59 --> 46:02 [SPEAKER_02]: Because they told that full story on the ACC broadcast.
46:02 --> 46:03 [SPEAKER_02]: They must have got it from somewhere, right?
46:03 --> 46:06 [SPEAKER_01]: I want to say it was Folder Bo as my teammate last year.
46:07 --> 46:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess one of the reporters went up to him.
46:09 --> 46:26 [SPEAKER_01]: was like we saw I was they called me on camera like just inhaling on and I think they went up to him and I think he just gave him some his diary number so yeah I think it was folder they should have just asked you I know I guess I guess I was just too busy eating people in jazzy they didn't have the time to ask me
46:27 --> 46:31 [SPEAKER_02]: For those who don't know the story during one of your, it was an ACC Tournament game last year, right?
46:31 --> 46:36 [SPEAKER_02]: They told the story on the broadcast saying, Luke eats 1500 peanut butter in jellies per season.
46:36 --> 46:39 [SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, this guy's match me in heaven for this podcast.
46:39 --> 46:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I love him to death.
46:40 --> 46:42 [SPEAKER_02]: I've had him every day of my life since I was, I don't know how old.
46:42 --> 46:49 [SPEAKER_02]: And then we start to get told by some of your other teammates and guys in your draft class that, yeah, that might have been a little far fetch, a little overblown.
46:49 --> 46:51 [SPEAKER_01]: My buddies are like, if they ever ask me.
46:51 --> 46:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just they're like they're just gonna be like now it's more at least like 3 so you show it throughout that.
46:56 --> 46:58 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you consider the box of uncrustables?
46:58 --> 46:59 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's a pretty efficient way to get something.
46:59 --> 47:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, like I'll go to the grocery store and I'll buy some uncrustables.
47:02 --> 47:07 [SPEAKER_01]: Put them in the freezer, um, but same thing like I just haven't had the the niche for it.
47:08 --> 47:08 [SPEAKER_02]: When you have them.
47:08 --> 47:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Strawberry jelly, grape jelly, grape.
47:10 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_02]: Great.
47:11 --> 47:11 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
47:11 --> 47:12 [SPEAKER_03]: What is the strategy?
47:12 --> 47:14 [SPEAKER_03]: What are what are the ratios?
47:14 --> 47:15 [SPEAKER_03]: And what's the bread type?
47:15 --> 47:16 [SPEAKER_01]: Um...
47:18 --> 47:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really care.
47:19 --> 47:20 [SPEAKER_01]: More like white bread I'd say.
47:20 --> 47:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I just, it's just like the, like it's got to be soft, and then more peanut butter than jelly.
47:26 --> 47:26 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
47:26 --> 47:27 [SPEAKER_02]: So you're a great jelly guy.
47:28 --> 47:28 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a great jelly for sure.
47:28 --> 47:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
47:29 --> 47:34 [SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned cow by the way, one of the things while we were down at spring training for a week when we got to talk to you for the first time.
47:35 --> 47:55 [SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, one of the biggest things that stood out to us during the week just getting to watch a bunch of different things is you can tell work pretty closely and you're guy that what what less than a year ago just got drafted just got into the organization and cows like right in your ear during some catching drills and you guys are working on framing and he seems like he's really taking you under his wing at least while we were there over the course of spring training.
47:55 --> 48:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Did it catch you off guard how invested he was in some of the younger guys for sure for sure and I mean going in I knew that we were going to be around each other a good bit but he really took a lot of time to break the break things down give me his opinion he was honest with me which finished second MVP like he doesn't have to do that but it just shows like the type of type of dude he is and like I was able to talk off the field on the field like with him and he was really really helpful and I really appreciate it and I was just more impressed with like how willing he is to learn as much as he was able to like teach
48:25 --> 48:50 [SPEAKER_01]: one would when did your interactions with him start um we went we had like a pitchers and catchers like early mirely camp and he was down there I guess training for a USA and one day I walk in and he was just lifting at like six in the morning goes up daps me up introduce himself and ever since we just like would see each other pretty consistently and get to know each other a little bit so so he knew exactly who you were when he met you
48:50 --> 48:51 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about that.
48:51 --> 48:52 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I think you introduced himself.
48:53 --> 48:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, maybe.
48:54 --> 48:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.
48:55 --> 48:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
48:55 --> 48:59 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like you knew your name because like Mariners pick a catcher in the first round.
48:59 --> 49:01 [SPEAKER_03]: Being the catcher on the baby team.
49:01 --> 49:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure.
49:01 --> 49:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe.
49:02 --> 49:04 [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, but yeah.
49:04 --> 49:06 [SPEAKER_01]: We were able to talk a little bit in spring training.
49:06 --> 49:07 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was fortunate for that.
49:07 --> 49:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Was there one thing that really jumped out that he either taught you or that you got to pick his brain about throughout the course of this brain?
49:13 --> 49:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I would just say like his consistency like I was around him enough and he just was so invested in in having a better year than he had last year and so invested in just like Being better than he was which is like really impressive and every day showed up and he was like the same guy.
49:29 --> 49:39 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, and like I said, this is my first spring training of round a bunch of big leaders Um, and just seeing that like the highest of high like caliber player just that like work ethic was was impressive.
49:39 --> 49:41 [SPEAKER_01]: That's probably the biggest thing I took away
49:41 --> 49:44 [SPEAKER_03]: I think you would want to chase him from like a catching perspective.
49:44 --> 49:47 [SPEAKER_03]: You want to get your once you get to the big leagues.
49:47 --> 49:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Be the kind of catcher he is, hit the amount of home run he is.
49:50 --> 49:54 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think you're going to want to try and get to big dump her status as well when you get to the big leagues?
49:54 --> 49:56 [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
49:56 --> 49:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he doesn't.
49:56 --> 49:57 [SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't.
49:58 --> 50:01 [SPEAKER_01]: But the older I've gotten, it's just more like you just want to be the best version of yourself.
50:01 --> 50:06 [SPEAKER_01]: And I know Coward probably said the same thing like he's just trying to be better than he was yesterday and I'm trying to do the same.
50:06 --> 50:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, yeah, if I hit 62 homers in a year, I'd be pretty excited about that.
50:11 --> 50:13 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, were you taking some notes with his leg workouts?
50:14 --> 50:15 [SPEAKER_01]: A little bit, a little bit.
50:15 --> 50:15 [SPEAKER_01]: He works hard.
50:16 --> 50:16 [SPEAKER_01]: He gets after it.
50:16 --> 50:17 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that was definitely taking some notes.
50:18 --> 50:19 [SPEAKER_02]: You seem like you get after it to be honest.
50:19 --> 50:23 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, is it fair to say you put on some pretty positive weight from the time you were drafted till now?
50:24 --> 50:24 [SPEAKER_01]: For sure.
50:24 --> 50:24 [SPEAKER_01]: For sure.
50:24 --> 50:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they had us in some camps.
50:25 --> 50:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I got on a good eating program, good weight program.
50:28 --> 50:30 [SPEAKER_01]: So definitely put on some good weight this this year.
50:31 --> 50:34 [SPEAKER_02]: Why was that for your opinion, a focal point for you heading into the spring?
50:34 --> 50:38 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's just one of those things that you can never be too strong.
50:38 --> 50:43 [SPEAKER_01]: You can never just like move more weight and go into my first professional year.
50:43 --> 50:44 [SPEAKER_01]: I knew it was going to be a lot of games.
50:44 --> 50:46 [SPEAKER_01]: I knew it was going to be a long year and I want to be as strong as I could.
50:47 --> 50:49 [SPEAKER_03]: Where did you need that weight the most?
50:49 --> 50:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, I don't know.
50:52 --> 50:55 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know where I need the, I mean, obviously just want to hit the harder, hit the one further.
50:55 --> 50:57 [SPEAKER_01]: So I guess that aspect of it.
50:57 --> 50:57 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
50:58 --> 51:00 [SPEAKER_02]: What do you like to eat when you have to bulk like that?
51:01 --> 51:02 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big chipotle guy, nice.
51:02 --> 51:06 [SPEAKER_01]: Just like anything with rice, chicken, rice, beef, steak.
51:07 --> 51:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Those were typically my meals.
51:08 --> 51:11 [SPEAKER_01]: So my, my 20, 26 goals to cook a little more.
51:11 --> 51:12 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm spring training.
51:12 --> 51:14 [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to cook as much as I can.
51:14 --> 51:18 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was able to make a couple decent meals and not eat out as much.
51:18 --> 51:37 [SPEAKER_02]: you're going to catch them tonight have you talked to price about this about rice miller oh yeah I've got to be my he might be the biggest chipotle guy on planet earth i'm pretty sure that's what spread is post game so well that's very good so people may not know this when a big league is on a rehab assignment often they're responsible for getting the post game spread
51:37 --> 51:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that what he's getting for everybody might he might be covering I would I would assume but I've heard about his chipotle love so I'll be happy to see that He's like what a 200 day year chipotle guy.
51:49 --> 51:58 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean we've heard points that it's yes six days a week and it's or it's every day So how how well do you compare to that you get in it multiple times a week?
51:58 --> 52:03 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say it's always once a week, it really does depend, but it's always once a week.
52:03 --> 52:13 [SPEAKER_01]: I would say if I didn't want to cook, I'd just run a global life convenient, pretty cheap, high protein.
52:13 --> 52:19 [SPEAKER_02]: If somebody asked you to cook a meal for them now, because you said you've been working on your cooking, what's the best thing you could cook up?
52:20 --> 52:24 [SPEAKER_02]: If you were to really try and impress somebody.
52:24 --> 52:28 [SPEAKER_01]: My mom got me like a skillet pan, and I was making steaks.
52:28 --> 52:33 [SPEAKER_01]: I can make it pretty decent steak, and then probably like a burger bowl.
52:33 --> 52:39 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like a, like a bed of lettuce, some rice, ground beef, sweet potatoes, like a little burger sauce.
52:39 --> 52:40 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's pretty good.
52:40 --> 52:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Basically a burger that a bomb, so it's pretty good.
52:42 --> 52:43 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's really good.
52:43 --> 52:46 [SPEAKER_02]: So what are you looking forward to about catching Bryce tonight?
52:46 --> 52:50 [SPEAKER_02]: When this episode comes out, by the way, it'll be a week after Bryce has made this start.
52:50 --> 52:52 [SPEAKER_02]: But as we're sitting here, what are you looking forward to?
52:52 --> 52:58 [SPEAKER_01]: just like how he operates and like his pace, I mean, obviously the end goals to be able to catch those guys every single day.
53:00 --> 53:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Being young and this being my first year, I just want to see like what it's like, like how he game plans, how he operates, just like the competitor inside of him and I know it's a different environment that he's used to, but just see his intent, his game plan, and because that's ultimately what I wanted to catch everything again.
53:17 --> 53:19 [SPEAKER_03]: Did you catch him last time he rehabbed here?
53:19 --> 53:20 [SPEAKER_03]: I did not.
53:20 --> 53:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I caught him in the spring.
53:21 --> 53:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Josh Karen caught him last, uh, his last outing.
53:24 --> 53:27 [SPEAKER_01]: So, um, I've caught him before, but this was the first game that I catch him.
53:27 --> 53:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Was there a pitch that blew you away from what he throws?
53:30 --> 53:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Where you're like, you know, you're coming from college and you see something that bright stars and you're like, oh,
53:34 --> 53:36 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, can I say all of them?
53:36 --> 53:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's got six really good pitches.
53:37 --> 53:39 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, his cutters really, really good.
53:40 --> 53:41 [SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, all of his stuff's nasty.
53:41 --> 53:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's gross.
53:42 --> 53:44 [SPEAKER_03]: How do you decide where to catch his splitter?
53:45 --> 53:48 [SPEAKER_03]: He, because the way he's talked about his splitter is it kind of goes all over the place.
53:48 --> 53:52 [SPEAKER_03]: He'll throw it down the middle and it will go anywhere.
53:52 --> 53:55 [SPEAKER_01]: That's just kind of a splitter like it's just like a nasty pitch.
53:55 --> 53:57 [SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes it just moves differently than each one.
53:57 --> 53:58 [SPEAKER_01]: So,
53:59 --> 54:06 [SPEAKER_01]: try to catch in the pocket I guess but I mean I've caught it before it's it's nasty but he's got good feel for it so.
54:07 --> 54:09 [SPEAKER_02]: So just try to gear up for it as best you can basically.
54:10 --> 54:26 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious to ask just what we're talking about some of these big league arms I would assume when you were drafted they told you a little bit about Cal Raleigh and Logan Gilbert when they were drafted right in the sense of same class they came up together live together I think after the draft they they they tell you a little bit about that at all when you were drafted.
54:26 --> 54:52 [SPEAKER_02]: they didn't I knew that they're very close I knew that they're in the same class but now they didn't like dive into too much about their relationship now okay interesting I only asked because I can't help or we can't help I would say draw some comparisons between you and Cade in terms of what price or what cow and Logan went through with same class come up together work most of their way through the minor leagues together they room together after the draft very close friends
54:53 --> 54:58 [SPEAKER_02]: and a pitcher in a catcher taken in the same draft here in 2025 and you can't help a draw some comparisons.
54:58 --> 55:02 [SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, how much time have you gotten to spend around Cates since you guys have gotten into the org?
55:02 --> 55:03 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, that's my guy.
55:03 --> 55:10 [SPEAKER_01]: We uh, after we got drafted, we stayed together in the same apartment after it like in draft camp.
55:10 --> 55:13 [SPEAKER_01]: And then this spring, we live together.
55:13 --> 55:15 [SPEAKER_01]: So we got an apartment together with our like three months.
55:15 --> 55:17 [SPEAKER_01]: And then obviously he's an Arkansas.
55:17 --> 55:17 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm here.
55:17 --> 55:19 [SPEAKER_01]: But we've spent a lot of good time together.
55:19 --> 55:20 [SPEAKER_01]: He's the boy.
55:20 --> 55:22 [SPEAKER_01]: So I've been watching a lot of the start.
55:22 --> 55:23 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's been crushing it.
55:23 --> 55:25 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, has this dude ever failed in his life?
55:26 --> 55:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Seriously.
55:27 --> 55:28 [SPEAKER_01]: He's nasty.
55:28 --> 55:31 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, what he's doing in AA right now, it is, like, jaw on the floor.
55:31 --> 55:32 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's great.
55:32 --> 55:33 [SPEAKER_01]: He's been, he's been crushing it.
55:33 --> 55:36 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's, he's the man and I'm happy for him.
55:36 --> 55:37 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm excited to see what he keeps doing.
55:37 --> 55:38 [SPEAKER_03]: What makes Cade so good?
55:39 --> 55:40 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just an ultimate competitor.
55:40 --> 55:42 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, obviously, he's got nasty stuff.
55:42 --> 55:43 [SPEAKER_01]: His command is great.
55:43 --> 55:46 [SPEAKER_01]: But he just, like, goes out there and just competes.
55:46 --> 55:47 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, and it's evident.
55:47 --> 55:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, I got to go watch him go through.
55:49 --> 55:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like the spring training big league games.
55:50 --> 55:50 [SPEAKER_01]: And he's just,
55:52 --> 56:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Carvin and just competing more than the guy in front of him so some impressive had you guys ever crossed paths before getting into the system Yeah, actually I've faced him my freshman year LSU came to us for the regional so I actually faced him then so what was the result you can ask him?
56:09 --> 56:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I I'd give him a lot of crap for it.
56:11 --> 56:20 [SPEAKER_01]: I hit like a a Single up him I told him was like a hundred off the bat It was like it was a jam shot single side told him that I have a career batting average of a thousand off of him and I let him know every day
56:20 --> 56:23 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so his story is it's a for me to try and go single.
56:23 --> 56:35 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I tell him that it was a barrel, but he said it was, I blew up my hands and snuck through the Alfield, but I told him spring training, he struck me out and spring training, so I told him that they don't count, so I'm still been a thousand often, no, it's not a real game.
56:35 --> 56:39 [SPEAKER_03]: No, speaking of your offense, how do you feel like it's developed here your first full season?
56:39 --> 56:40 [SPEAKER_01]: So far so good.
56:40 --> 56:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I've been swinging it well, making good decisions, so I'm happy with my, I guess, offensive approach this month.
56:47 --> 56:51 [SPEAKER_03]: What is the adjustment facing pro pitching as opposed to college pitching?
56:52 --> 56:54 [SPEAKER_01]: Um...
56:54 --> 56:59 [SPEAKER_01]: There's definitely like just like a little bit of difference in like the low like I still a little harder, but same game, mountains just as far.
57:00 --> 57:10 [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't want to over cook it too much and just go in there with my plan and my plan hasn't changed that much in college, so but go in there and just try to execute my plan and whatever happens happens.
57:10 --> 57:14 [SPEAKER_03]: If you're trying to explain your plan as an offensive player to somebody, what is it?
57:14 --> 57:25 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just trying to put it all through the batter's eye, just trying to smoke if on time for the fastball and just be on the barrel through the air through the center, through the air and center field.
57:25 --> 57:29 [SPEAKER_01]: So just trying to hit the ball as hard as I can through and keep my direction through center field.
57:29 --> 57:32 [SPEAKER_03]: We asked Colt this last year.
57:33 --> 57:36 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, how often are you reminded how close that batter's eye is to you.
57:36 --> 57:39 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's pretty close.
57:39 --> 57:40 [SPEAKER_01]: You see the 350 seven every day.
57:40 --> 57:43 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's, it's, I try not to play it.
57:43 --> 57:48 [SPEAKER_01]: And I just try to, like I said, hit the ball hard and not just try to sneak when over the 350 seven sign, but you see it.
57:48 --> 57:49 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, it's there.
57:49 --> 57:52 [SPEAKER_02]: Is it almost a little deceiving in the sense of,
57:52 --> 58:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Look, if you smoke a ball here and you get it way out to center field, it's going to be a home run in most parks, but it can be a little deceiving in the sense of like, well, maybe that wouldn't get out everywhere.
58:01 --> 58:02 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, like, we'll have some.
58:02 --> 58:09 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you just style it's a Funko bomb or like last night, dude, it's like it's just a high like.
58:10 --> 58:37 [SPEAKER_01]: like a high-fly ball wasn't hit very hard and it's just a double okay that's more more of it like a lot of times like home runs are like they're going to happen here but it's like it'll be a routine fly ball show stand on second base that's the most like when you're catching and dude makes a good pitch gets a fly ball in the guy standing on second base you're just like crap what can you do yeah nothing any it's the polar opposite of Arkansas we're kt is right now where that ball in Arkansas is a routine flyout sure no doubt no doubt so it's different
58:37 --> 58:43 [SPEAKER_02]: Why I'm going to try to put you on the spot a little bit because TJ's asking about your offensive approach, but I'll try to I'll try to crank it up a little bit and see what you have for us.
58:44 --> 58:47 [SPEAKER_02]: Why do you feel like you're the hottest hitter in the Northwest League right now?
58:48 --> 58:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I would just say, I guess my play discipline, um, I'm just trying to like swing it strikes, take balls.
58:50 --> 58:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don
58:59 --> 59:27 [SPEAKER_01]: first month so I know it's a long season so just not not ride the highs not ride the lows stay right in between but just going in they're trying to hit good counts you know not trying to do too much if a dude dots a pitch being able to take it and just hunt that mistake so I would say that that's been helpful so one guy you faced in the league so far it's only been a month like you said they're one guy you faced that's really jumped out we faced some good I'm really bad with names okay like what we've played the same teams a couple times and they're like oh yeah this is a guy we faced Tuesday and
59:28 --> 59:48 [SPEAKER_02]: like the guys like wind up or shroom like I'm not I'm not good at the names okay it's hard for me to answer that question I've always just I can't remember names let me try a different question whether it was in literally or in high school like before you got to college who's the best player you ever went up against can you remember any names from that before college yeah like literally high school was there any just other studs that you went up against
59:52 --> 59:54 [SPEAKER_01]: There's this guy, his name's Carson Applegate.
59:54 --> 59:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
59:55 --> 59:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I faced him when I was like 12 years old.
59:56 --> 59:57 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
59:57 --> 59:59 [SPEAKER_01]: He was down like 85 miles an hour from like 50.
59:59 --> 01:00:01 [SPEAKER_01]: For some reason, he was from New Jersey.
01:00:01 --> 01:00:07 [SPEAKER_01]: I just remember that name and everyone was like, oh my gosh, he's the greatest baseball player ever.
01:00:07 --> 01:00:09 [SPEAKER_02]: So he's one of those 12-year-olds.
01:00:09 --> 01:00:14 [SPEAKER_02]: He's one of the 12-year-olds that was getting 20 bombs in a little league season and just punching everybody out.
01:00:14 --> 01:00:15 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think he, I think he wants to Kentucky.
01:00:15 --> 01:00:17 [SPEAKER_01]: So he played in college like he was a good player.
01:00:17 --> 01:00:19 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so it really worked out.
01:00:19 --> 01:00:21 [SPEAKER_03]: Like he still went D1 and had a real career.
01:00:21 --> 01:00:21 [SPEAKER_02]: For sure.
01:00:21 --> 01:00:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
01:00:22 --> 01:00:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.
01:00:22 --> 01:00:25 [SPEAKER_03]: What was your welcome to pro ball moment?
01:00:28 --> 01:00:30 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be in spring training against a mariner.
01:00:30 --> 01:00:31 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be someone on the other team.
01:00:31 --> 01:00:32 [SPEAKER_02]: It could be, it could be draft camp last year.
01:00:32 --> 01:00:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it could be draft camp too.
01:00:41 --> 01:00:42 [SPEAKER_01]: We might be putting them on the spot.
01:00:42 --> 01:00:44 [SPEAKER_01]: Did you bring me on the spot too much?
01:00:44 --> 01:00:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
01:00:45 --> 01:00:48 [SPEAKER_02]: What did you, how many big League of Bats did you take during the spring?
01:00:48 --> 01:00:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Did you get any?
01:00:49 --> 01:00:50 [SPEAKER_01]: I think I had six.
01:00:50 --> 01:00:51 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah.
01:00:51 --> 01:00:52 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I got a few.
01:00:52 --> 01:00:56 [SPEAKER_01]: I was able to catch the back half of some pinch head a little bit.
01:00:56 --> 01:00:58 [SPEAKER_01]: So I was able to, was able to get in there a little bit.
01:00:58 --> 01:00:59 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
01:00:59 --> 01:01:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I was wondering if any of those really jumped out.
01:01:00 --> 01:01:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Because you'll face a variety of arms in those games.
01:01:03 --> 01:01:05 [SPEAKER_02]: You might not go out there and face
01:01:05 --> 01:01:26 [SPEAKER_01]: parent school and a spring training game because usually the minor leaders get in a little later and stuff like that but I'd I'd face some some big leaders in the back half the game but now like you don't you don't you don't get in there sure I didn't get in there oh yeah I was just mostly curious if you like walked into what I bet like Mason Miller was on the mountain you're like oh I did get to see him and he was just 102 living at the top so
01:01:26 --> 01:01:40 [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say for Johnny to start this spring, just as an example, he's had some bats and daily games before, so it's not totally new to him, but I remember first that dad of the spring, he gets in there and who do the, or Padre's put into the game to face him, it's Mesa Miller.
01:01:40 --> 01:01:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, that is not exactly a welcome to 2026 moment.
01:01:43 --> 01:01:45 [SPEAKER_02]: That's not exactly an easy soft landing.
01:01:45 --> 01:01:47 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, oh, you're going up against that guy.
01:01:47 --> 01:01:50 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, we actually I'm living with Johnny now, so we talked about that at that.
01:01:50 --> 01:01:55 [SPEAKER_01]: So
01:01:56 --> 01:02:04 [SPEAKER_03]: But for mayor fans that don't get to watch the aquisoxylotam all the time, besides yourself, who should fans be watching for for the rest of the season as a standout?
01:02:04 --> 01:02:05 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's a lot.
01:02:05 --> 01:02:10 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big fan of Johnny from Allow, we're obviously living together, but I think he's a great player.
01:02:10 --> 01:02:11 [SPEAKER_01]: He's from Virginia.
01:02:11 --> 01:02:15 [SPEAKER_01]: I went to high school with Carolina, so I knew him then.
01:02:16 --> 01:02:19 [SPEAKER_01]: So I think he's a really good player, Brock Moore is a electric.
01:02:20 --> 01:02:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:02:21 --> 01:02:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Falnans been smoking it, so there's a lot of names up here, but I would say those guys for sure.
01:02:25 --> 01:02:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
01:02:26 --> 01:02:33 [SPEAKER_02]: We usually wrap up with a handful of questions with prospects or players that we'll have on just to try to let the fans get to know a little bit more about you.
01:02:33 --> 01:02:37 [SPEAKER_02]: So just to write a little off a couple, what's your go-to pre-game and post-game meal?
01:02:38 --> 01:02:41 [SPEAKER_01]: I would probably say like Chipotle or Kadoba.
01:02:41 --> 01:02:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:02:41 --> 01:02:43 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we covered that a little bit.
01:02:43 --> 01:02:45 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that more pre-game or post-game usually?
01:02:46 --> 01:02:55 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean if it's up to me I'd say both both okay same meal like like chicken rice same thing same Yeah, just eat I could eat chicken and rice every night.
01:02:55 --> 01:02:55 [SPEAKER_02]: You and Bryce are Matt.
01:02:56 --> 01:02:57 [SPEAKER_02]: That's made in having a night.
01:02:57 --> 01:03:00 [SPEAKER_03]: That's exactly what he does What are your top three TV shows of all time?
01:03:07 --> 01:03:09 [SPEAKER_01]: Middle severance
01:03:10 --> 01:03:14 [SPEAKER_01]: And said the office.
01:03:14 --> 01:03:14 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
01:03:14 --> 01:03:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's go.
01:03:15 --> 01:03:15 [SPEAKER_02]: The middle.
01:03:16 --> 01:03:17 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that the old one on ABC?
01:03:17 --> 01:03:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:03:18 --> 01:03:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
01:03:18 --> 01:03:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:03:18 --> 01:03:19 [SPEAKER_01]: I watched that growing up.
01:03:19 --> 01:03:20 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I've seen every episode like four times.
01:03:20 --> 01:03:21 [SPEAKER_01]: Really?
01:03:21 --> 01:03:21 [SPEAKER_01]: I loved it growing up.
01:03:22 --> 01:03:22 [SPEAKER_02]: Who's your favorite character?
01:03:23 --> 01:03:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Brick.
01:03:24 --> 01:03:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Brick.
01:03:24 --> 01:03:24 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
01:03:25 --> 01:03:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:03:25 --> 01:03:25 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a go on.
01:03:25 --> 01:03:25 [SPEAKER_01]: Bricks.
01:03:26 --> 01:03:28 [SPEAKER_01]: He was just odd for me kid.
01:03:28 --> 01:03:29 [SPEAKER_01]: He was hilarious.
01:03:29 --> 01:03:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:03:29 --> 01:03:30 [SPEAKER_02]: My family watched a bunch of it too.
01:03:30 --> 01:03:31 [SPEAKER_02]: We'd go like that.
01:03:31 --> 01:03:33 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I think modern family would come on after that.
01:03:33 --> 01:03:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:03:34 --> 01:03:34 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:03:34 --> 01:03:35 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:03:35 --> 01:03:36 [SPEAKER_02]: Favorite all-time baseball player?
01:03:37 --> 01:03:37 [SPEAKER_01]: Derek you.
01:03:38 --> 01:03:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:03:38 --> 01:03:38 [SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
01:03:38 --> 01:03:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
01:03:39 --> 01:03:39 [SPEAKER_02]: So you grew up.
01:03:39 --> 01:03:39 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:03:40 --> 01:03:40 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:03:40 --> 01:03:40 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:03:40 --> 01:03:41 [SPEAKER_01]: Being in New Jersey.
01:03:41 --> 01:03:45 [SPEAKER_01]: I just 45 minutes from the stadium side grew up watching Derek Jeter all the time.
01:03:45 --> 01:03:47 [SPEAKER_01]: So he's awesome.
01:03:48 --> 01:03:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you get to a lot of games?
01:03:48 --> 01:03:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
01:03:49 --> 01:03:49 [SPEAKER_01]: I was.
01:03:49 --> 01:03:49 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:03:50 --> 01:03:53 [SPEAKER_01]: We, uh, I'd go to a couple two or three year.
01:03:53 --> 01:03:55 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I guess I was right down the road.
01:03:55 --> 01:04:01 [SPEAKER_03]: So what is the best and worst baseball road trip you have been on ever in your career.
01:04:02 --> 01:04:04 [SPEAKER_03]: Could be little league.
01:04:06 --> 01:04:08 [SPEAKER_01]: Best I'd say is going Omaha.
01:04:08 --> 01:04:09 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess that's considered.
01:04:09 --> 01:04:10 [SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty cool road trip.
01:04:10 --> 01:04:11 [SPEAKER_01]: That was pretty cool.
01:04:12 --> 01:04:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Worst
01:04:18 --> 01:04:23 [SPEAKER_01]: We haven't had too many bad ones, all the club houses have been pretty good.
01:04:23 --> 01:04:37 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we went to, it wasn't bad like the field, but we went to Boston College and it was like March and it was just freezing cold and I just remember it being 25 degrees like the wind blowing cherry into face and it was freezing.
01:04:37 --> 01:04:40 [SPEAKER_01]: But it wasn't like a bad cherry, if I remember it was freezing cold with wind.
01:04:40 --> 01:04:42 [SPEAKER_02]: Was that, was that one of those mid-February series?
01:04:42 --> 01:04:45 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was the first week of
01:04:45 --> 01:04:57 [SPEAKER_01]: hold hit one off the hands and your hands or just let me on film bringing things yeah yeah so it's brutal if you weren't playing baseball what do you think you'd be doing
01:04:59 --> 01:05:00 [SPEAKER_02]: You've never given it much thought, have you?
01:05:00 --> 01:05:04 [SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, maybe I think a professional golfer would be cool.
01:05:04 --> 01:05:05 [SPEAKER_01]: I have to do something in sports.
01:05:05 --> 01:05:11 [SPEAKER_01]: Like something like maybe like a sports announcer, something like sports marketing or something like that.
01:05:11 --> 01:05:12 [SPEAKER_01]: Start a podcast.
01:05:12 --> 01:05:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Start a podcast.
01:05:13 --> 01:05:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
01:05:13 --> 01:05:14 [SPEAKER_01]: Something you can start with now.
01:05:14 --> 01:05:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Something about talking about sports or something.
01:05:17 --> 01:05:19 [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't want to give it too much thought.
01:05:19 --> 01:05:20 [SPEAKER_02]: You have a favorite golfer?
01:05:21 --> 01:05:23 [SPEAKER_01]: I like Schaffler, he's just fun to watch.
01:05:23 --> 01:05:23 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
01:05:23 --> 01:05:27 [SPEAKER_01]: And I think like he just, he's a great dude off the field, so he's easy to root for.
01:05:27 --> 01:05:27 [SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
01:05:27 --> 01:05:32 [SPEAKER_03]: So could give you some inspiration, liberal Johnny, who knows exactly what he would be doing if he wasn't playing baseball.
01:05:32 --> 01:05:34 [SPEAKER_03]: Just sitting on the charts all day.
01:05:34 --> 01:05:36 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he, he agrees for hours.
01:05:36 --> 01:05:39 [SPEAKER_01]: He loves the market, he loves the market.
01:05:39 --> 01:05:40 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's like good at it.
01:05:40 --> 01:05:41 [SPEAKER_01]: It's his thing.
01:05:41 --> 01:05:41 [SPEAKER_01]: He is.
01:05:42 --> 01:05:47 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I get, I walk out of my room and he's just on this computer, watching videos, looking at this, looking at,
01:05:48 --> 01:05:49 [SPEAKER_01]: market trading, all that stuff.
01:05:49 --> 01:05:50 [SPEAKER_01]: It's he's bought in.
01:05:50 --> 01:05:56 [SPEAKER_02]: It's fascinating how different every player is because some guys like you, it's just like your whole life, you've known exactly what you wanted to do.
01:05:56 --> 01:06:04 [SPEAKER_02]: And Johnny obviously has two, but paired with that, he's got this insane crazy passion away from baseball that he also focuses his time on.
01:06:04 --> 01:06:08 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just funny, everybody's wired a little bit.
01:06:10 --> 01:06:11 [SPEAKER_01]: 20 years from now.
01:06:11 --> 01:06:11 [SPEAKER_01]: I'll just go back to trading.
01:06:12 --> 01:06:13 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
01:06:13 --> 01:06:15 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to finish your degree.
01:06:15 --> 01:06:17 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you can just say he can just go day to day.
01:06:17 --> 01:06:18 [SPEAKER_01]: You do it right now.
01:06:18 --> 01:06:19 [SPEAKER_02]: That sounds about right on Brad.
01:06:20 --> 01:06:25 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, if final one for you, if you were going to pick a walk-up song today to make your big league debut, what would it be?
01:06:25 --> 01:06:28 [SPEAKER_01]: I've used the same one for the last six years, and it's Jersey by future.
01:06:29 --> 01:06:29 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, nice.
01:06:30 --> 01:06:31 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, bring it back to the hometown.
01:06:31 --> 01:06:33 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'm using it this year.
01:06:33 --> 01:06:35 [SPEAKER_01]: I always like, I'm always tempted to change it because like,
01:06:37 --> 01:06:43 [SPEAKER_01]: Just I've used it the same six years so you have heard it like 2 times, but it's I got to keep rocking with it.
01:06:43 --> 01:06:45 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like the last six years have gone pretty okay for you.
01:06:45 --> 01:06:46 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they've been all right.
01:06:46 --> 01:06:47 [SPEAKER_01]: They've been all right.
01:06:47 --> 01:06:48 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to keep rocking with it.
01:06:48 --> 01:06:48 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's worth.
01:06:48 --> 01:06:49 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they broke don't fix it man.
01:06:49 --> 01:06:50 [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
01:06:50 --> 01:06:50 [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
01:06:51 --> 01:06:52 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll look this has been awesome.
01:06:52 --> 01:06:54 [SPEAKER_02]: Seriously, blast talking to you.
01:06:54 --> 01:07:00 [SPEAKER_02]: I know Mariners fans are really fired up to watch you play and can't wait to watch the rest of the year and down the road, too, because we're rooting for you, man.
01:07:00 --> 01:07:01 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you guys.
01:07:01 --> 01:07:01 [SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate it.
01:07:03 --> 01:07:06 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, shout out to Luke Stevens and that was a blast to sit out with them.
01:07:06 --> 01:07:20 [SPEAKER_02]: I really like getting to hear about him and Cade too, just because we talked to him about this is similar to how Cal Raleigh and Logan Gilbert were when they came up together with the same draft class, became good friends, lived together, now they're both in the big leagues thrive together.
01:07:20 --> 01:07:24 [SPEAKER_02]: It is easy to draw some comparisons.
01:07:24 --> 01:07:41 [SPEAKER_02]: and ideas to dream on in terms of those comparisons with Kate and with Luke so to hear him dive in on that a little bit was pretty fun and I don't know TJ I'll ask you you've been infatuated with Luke Stevenson since essentially the day they drafted him and the day they started playing them in games like overall takeaways pretty good I'm assuming
01:07:42 --> 01:08:03 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought for his first interview it was great and able to yeah you're always able to learn a lot from these guys because they'll come from different backgrounds and I'm just saying I'm even more excited to watch Luke Stevenson for the rest of the season and up until he makes the big leagues from from here on out it is good it is going to be really fun to watch him and came it's
01:08:03 --> 01:08:09 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not often you get like a succession battery, but the Mariners really might have one.
01:08:10 --> 01:08:13 [SPEAKER_03]: And we'll see how it works itself out, but it's fun to think about.
01:08:14 --> 01:08:18 [SPEAKER_02]: Although at this rate, when Luke eventually gets called up to Arkansas, Kade might be gone.
01:08:18 --> 01:08:19 [SPEAKER_02]: who knows.
01:08:21 --> 01:08:27 [SPEAKER_03]: The battery that was when the pitcher is too good to be with his college catcher.
01:08:27 --> 01:08:29 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
01:08:29 --> 01:08:33 [SPEAKER_02]: Although, that's just more a testament to Cade than anything to do with Luke.
01:08:33 --> 01:08:41 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Luke in his own right has just lit the world on fire since he started playing in programs at the end of the year last year in Modesto.
01:08:41 --> 01:08:48 [SPEAKER_02]: Now this year in Everett, I mean, he's been
01:08:48 --> 01:08:53 [SPEAKER_03]: If Cade was on a normal trajectory, he would still be an ever-it-with Luke Stevenson right now.
01:08:54 --> 01:08:56 [SPEAKER_03]: But Cade Anderson is not a normal prospect.
01:08:57 --> 01:08:57 [SPEAKER_02]: No.
01:08:57 --> 01:09:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Hannon Luke would probably move together more or less the way they'd be expected to trend.
01:09:03 --> 01:09:10 [SPEAKER_02]: Like if Luke was hitting like this and Cade was good, but not the Cade we've seen through spring training up until now.
01:09:10 --> 01:09:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they'd probably move at a similar timeline.
01:09:13 --> 01:09:17 [SPEAKER_02]: who knows, maybe at this rate, Luke won't catch him till the big leagues unless they're in spring training.
01:09:18 --> 01:09:23 [SPEAKER_03]: I love thinking about the comparison of Kate Anderson and Logan Gilbert.
01:09:23 --> 01:09:25 [SPEAKER_03]: So Kate Anderson gets to start in double-eye.
01:09:25 --> 01:09:29 [SPEAKER_03]: Logan Gilbert started in low-A as a prospect.
01:09:29 --> 01:09:38 [SPEAKER_03]: Now he made it to double-eye by the end of the season and pitched really well over the course of the whole year, but Logan Gilbert had to go up three levels of the miners to get to double-A.
01:09:38 --> 01:09:42 [SPEAKER_03]: Kate Anderson starts in double-eye and he's better in double-eye than Logan Gilbert was.
01:09:44 --> 01:09:45 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's insane.
01:09:45 --> 01:09:58 [SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, Luke Stephenson by OPS, two years at North Carolina, 955, 965, last year and ever, or last year, Medesto through 22 games, 860, OPS, so far and ever 927 OPS.
01:09:59 --> 01:10:00 [SPEAKER_02]: This guy mashed it every level.
01:10:01 --> 01:10:03 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what we call a ball player.
01:10:03 --> 01:10:05 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and a pv and j lover.
01:10:05 --> 01:10:07 [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, you want to talk about more reasons for me to like Luke Stephenson.
01:10:07 --> 01:10:11 [SPEAKER_02]: If I didn't have enough already, got to talk pv and j's with them.
01:10:11 --> 01:10:13 [SPEAKER_02]: Not a bit of my bucket list
01:10:13 --> 01:10:27 [SPEAKER_02]: and his walk-up song apparently has forever been jersey by future what a great walk-up song though less peeping jays this year than I thought yeah i guess i don't have them as much around like they did in North Carolina
01:10:29 --> 01:10:32 [SPEAKER_03]: You were mentioning this to me the other day and we're thinking about it.
01:10:32 --> 01:10:53 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like the college game prepares you for the pro game on the field, but off the field, it's like a total fantasy land, especially if you're at like a power five school, both the facilities you get and you get all the food and you're living in a college town without your buddies and then you go off to pro ball and you're in Modesto, California, right?
01:10:54 --> 01:10:57 [SPEAKER_02]: It's total fantasy land that you live in in college baseball.
01:10:57 --> 01:10:57 [SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
01:10:58 --> 01:11:00 [SPEAKER_02]: But the Patriots are nice in the pros.
01:11:00 --> 01:11:01 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
01:11:01 --> 01:11:02 [SPEAKER_02]: But that was fun, man.
01:11:02 --> 01:11:03 [SPEAKER_02]: Luke's great.
01:11:03 --> 01:11:07 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like I said, the few times we've gotten to talk with him, he's been awesome.
01:11:07 --> 01:11:10 [SPEAKER_02]: So can't wait to hopefully do it again down the road.
01:11:10 --> 01:11:12 [SPEAKER_02]: Can't wait to keep watching him thrive this year.
01:11:12 --> 01:11:15 [SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully we'll see him thrive in Arkansas by the end of the year.
01:11:15 --> 01:11:17 [SPEAKER_02]: And...
01:11:17 --> 01:11:21 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you know, at this rate, man, by next year, he may be a conversation to be in the big legs.
01:11:21 --> 01:11:22 [SPEAKER_02]: If he keeps hitting like this.
01:11:23 --> 01:11:24 [SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see how he does is the year keeps going.
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