Episode 74: The Mariners Won't Spend For Ohtani?

00:00:00 Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number seventy four of the Marine Layer podcast. Jeff Passen wrote some things about the Mariners and show Heyo Tani that people have been reacting to, and I don't think low and I like what we read very much, so we'll react to that. Mariners have some housekeeping things, Mike Ford was dfaied and the Mariners also have a new hitting coach that we'll have to talk about. We'll take a look around baseball with their MLB wrap around, and we'll introduce a new segment at the end. Ruthless replies, we'll get into a little bit more detail about that when we get there. 00:00:31 Speaker 2: And this show is brought to you by Pagotcha's Pub eighty five. Our friends over at Pagotcha's Pub eighty five in Kirkland, just east of eighty fifth just east four oh five on eighty fifth Street, with some good parking. It has some great food options, great drink options, and it's your go to place to watch any sports you want to watch. Again. 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And before we start the show, you're a reminder to download our episodes and leave us a five star review on the audio side of our podcast. That's wherever you get your podcasts on the audio side. Those reviews and downloads, they do really help us out a bunch, so just take a few extra seconds to do it. It does really mean a lot to us. And you can watch on YouTube full video side of the podcast over there, go like, comment, subscribe and then follow us on social media on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, YouTube, Shore. It's at Marine Layer pot. 00:02:02 Speaker 3: Let's get it rolling, and we welcome you to this episode of the. 00:02:15 Speaker 1: Marine Layer Podcast, recording here on Thursday, November sixteenth, part of the Just Baseball podcast network. I'm gonna be honest, slow, I could not get to this seat in front of this microphone fast enough when I saw the blockbuster trade news out of the American League West this week. Dare I say the Division is back? 00:02:39 Speaker 2: Oh, it's not just the division is back. Abe Toro is back, your guy. 00:02:47 Speaker 1: And could you imagine, like he's gonna go play for the worst franchise in baseball, He's gonna play in a crummy stadium, and he's probably gonna have an ops of what nine fifty at least against the Mariners next year? 00:03:00 Speaker 3: At least. I mean, he is going to destroy Mariner's pitching. 00:03:04 Speaker 1: Like I already know it, Like this is what karma is gonna come to me. I've already had some karma hit me today. But man, once the season rolls around, all my trash talking about Abe Toro, all that of me labeling him as my least favorite player ever in baseball ever, and he's coming back to haunt me. He's gonna come back and make my twenty twenty four season an absolute nightmare. 00:03:31 Speaker 2: I just want you to know that when the time comes next year, that he just destroys the Mariners or beats them in some clutch situation. I'm blaming you. I'm gonna sit on this podcast blame you. 00:03:42 Speaker 3: You should blame me, and I hope all of. 00:03:44 Speaker 2: Our listeners not only blame you as well, but let you hear about it on social media, Like I hope if Abe Toro has some game winning double or something against the Mariners at some point, that you just get a ton of ats in your Twitter from all these Mariners people, that being being like you did this, dude, You jinxed Abe Toro and this fan base. 00:04:06 Speaker 1: I deserve all the flack. I mean, you can't even write this script like how is he back in the division? 00:04:13 Speaker 2: This is? 00:04:14 Speaker 3: This is why can't this dude just go away? 00:04:17 Speaker 2: This is the third Al West team he's been with, So what are the Rangers next? 00:04:22 Speaker 3: Actually, I think that would be a good thing. 00:04:24 Speaker 1: I think I recommend Chris Young should sign him, start him at second base, and then I don't think you need that other stack of basement, so you can just trade him in division. 00:04:35 Speaker 2: Yeah, that that guy's not very good. Honestly, I don't know who's a team that maybe would have some room to fill some second base though, that team in the Pacific Northwest? Yeah, maybe that what's his name again, Mark Mark Marcus? Oh yeah, Semon. Yeah, the Mariners can take him off the Rangers' hands. Yet, I mean, listen, we're doing them a favor. We're doing them a favor by taking Semion away. So yeah, let's do that. Abe, Tara can go to the Rangers and we'll take Marcus sent meon off their hands. Yeah. I cannot believe he's back in the als. Like we didn't really have to hear about him much this year because he didn't play very many games in the big leagues. But here he is front and center. 00:05:12 Speaker 1: And he wasn't a member of the Mariners while we did this podcast, like at all, but like now he's back haunting us. 00:05:20 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:05:21 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to picture us doing this podcast in the twenty twenty two season, and you know, Mariners are headed to a playoff spot and I still manage to find time out of my day to bitch and complain that I have to watch Abraham Toro every single day, like Scott. Can somebody explain to me why you have a role for a designated hitter and in the designated hitter role you put perhaps the worst hitter in your made between double between Triple A and the major leagues, you put your worst hitter of the two in that spot. 00:05:55 Speaker 3: Somebody explained that to me. 00:05:57 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, Oh, yeah, you. 00:05:58 Speaker 3: Can't explain it. Oh good, that's what I thought. 00:06:01 Speaker 2: Oh no, I can't explain it. I'm gonna say what you said just a couple of minutes ago. This is karma. This is karma. He's coming back to the al West and he is gonna have a redemption tour thanks to this podcast. 00:06:15 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna go watch an A's M's game next year. He's gonna hit a fat dinger and I hope he points in the stands right at me and then as he's crossing home plate, two birds in my way. 00:06:28 Speaker 2: Right at Yeah. We'll have to get that all on video hopefully. Yeah. So, I guess I guess you have been hit with some karma today, not real karma, because there's the ab Toro trade. And then again, you were calling a soccer game earlier where there was just like a little blip on the radar. It's not like anything actually serious happened, but yeah. 00:06:44 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got confused with the rules a little bit. This is a reminder to any aspiring broadcasters that listen to this podcast, please double and triple check the rules before you call something that you haven't done before. 00:06:54 Speaker 3: There we go. That's that's TJ's advice for the day. 00:06:59 Speaker 2: I've never called soccer, so I'm I've got nothing to say. I think it's probably a really hard sport to call, so I give credit to you for even doing it. 00:07:06 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you learn a thing or two, Lyle. You do. Uh you wonder here. 00:07:11 Speaker 1: Let me just let me just say if somebody, somebody, if you go to overtime and you would think there's two separate overtime periods, you would think, Lyle, that if the team scored in the first overtime period, you didn't have to play the second one. 00:07:24 Speaker 3: Does that sound logical. 00:07:28 Speaker 2: Well, that's not how it works in actual soccer, likely like professional soccer. 00:07:33 Speaker 1: I know that, but right as you can see how much professional soccer I watch, I did not pick up on that, and well, you know, we learned a lesson. Like I said, karma, karma has hit me today. Abe Toro jinxed me today. Abe Toro guided the game time goal in so I had to go through overtime and and and have that happen to me. He knew what was happening. He's behind all of this. 00:07:58 Speaker 2: And now you get to deal with for the foreseeable future. Okay, ave Toro Aside the Mariners current Mariners do have a few pieces of news that we want to touch on, a couple of housekeeping things, and then there's one bigger segment we're gonna spend some time on. First note on the housekeeping. So Mike Ford was dfayed this week. They added Zach DeLoach to the forty man roster. They let Ford go. I thought this was a little bit of an odd move. I don't think it was the most shocking move in the world, but I do scratch my head just a little bit because as we currently sit, they do not really have a DH. 00:08:35 Speaker 1: It comes down to options and defense. I think that's literally it is. Mike Ford had no options left. That's why he was dafied, because he had to get dafaied and they took him out. 00:08:46 Speaker 3: The took him out the forty man. 00:08:47 Speaker 1: And again, if you think about it, and you think of how Jerry thinks, even if he goes on the record this offseason, which he has saying, well, if we could have a guy who only hits in the dhrol, we'd love that. You know, Jerry loves his versatility, and I would say from a roster building perspective, it makes more sense for him to have someone who plays defense and has options on his forty man roster opposed to someone who has neither of those two things. Mike Ford will probably get picked up again, like somebody might pay him a million dollars if they give him a big league contract, or will go to Triple A and he'll continue to mash or he could go overseas if he wants to. 00:09:25 Speaker 3: He can get paid a decent amount of money to do that. I don't think Mike Ford. 00:09:28 Speaker 1: Is I would say, an invaluable piece of any team going forward. I think he can manage to find something, but I just don't think I was thinking of Mike Ford as the DH for next season, which is why I can't say I'm too shocked about this move, and I and Jerry obviously thinks just along those lines two of not thinking that Mike Ford is occupying next year's dhroal. 00:09:50 Speaker 2: Yeah, and if no big league team signs him to a big league contract, the Mariners may very well bring him back and he'd be in spring training and then we can see where it goes from there. But you're probably right. The options, the lack of defensive value, I'm sure played a factor into this. And I will give Zach de Loach some credit. First off, I'm sure this is not a guy they want to give up on after just drafting him in the second round three years ago. And I will give him credit. He had a good year in Tacoma. This is a guy who hit twenty three bombs. He had an eight sixty eight ops one to eleven WRC plus. Again, it's hard to really get those WRC plus numbers up in the PCL because it's obviously a very hitter friendly league, so opss are always going to be highert WRC plus are going to be lower. But in the grand scheme of things, the Loach had a good year. He was really good during those summertime months. And check out this. I did want to throw this little nugget out there for the newest member of the forty man roster. He actually hit lefties really well this year. Look at his splits. He had an eight to fifty ops against right handers nine oh five ops against left handers. So, look, is the outfield filled with a lot of depth and a lot of guys that can play those spots for sure, But I think they must still see something in Zach de Loach, otherwise they would not have put him on the forty man. And again, look at those splits, Like this is a guy who's still hitting for power and is hitting both sides of the mound. He's hitting both lefties and righties. So maybe he can still be some type of role player here moving forward. 00:11:15 Speaker 1: Odds are he'll probably debut this year. If he stays on the forty man throughout the year, he's probably making. 00:11:20 Speaker 3: His major league debut. 00:11:21 Speaker 1: Like he's spent a lot of time in the miners, I think he's going to get a shot somewhere. The Mariners don't really they don't have a filled out outfield yet pretty much. 00:11:29 Speaker 3: I mean, they have an idea of what their outfield is. 00:11:31 Speaker 1: But I think you and I agree that the outfield is not complete as of right now there are two young guys in front of him, but I don't think that prevents zach DeLoach from getting his opportunity. 00:11:44 Speaker 2: No, and that being sad, as we kind of close the book on this first little segment, they still need to go find a DH. I think everybody agrees on that. Like rolling out some combo of more Demo, Haggarty, Cabiero, Taylor, Trammel, Zach DeLoach, some combination or another that ain't gonna fly. And I'm sure the Mariners know that, and I'm sure it's not their plan, but I do just want to put that out there that after what they tried to do the final few weeks of the year with that DH spot and all the platoons, I don't think that's flying again in twenty twenty four. 00:12:15 Speaker 1: That's not quite like me packing all my stuff into a box of Showhay signs with the Rangers level of unacceptable but not great, not too far off, maybe not too far off, I would say, not too far off. 00:12:29 Speaker 2: No, maybe not too far off. Okay, I will say in a little bit more of a positive light. Speaking of hitting, they may have a new man in town to help some of these bats, because they just hired a guy by the name of Brent Brown to the major league coaching staff. Now he is expected to help in the hitter's role. He's not technically a hitting coach, or at least not yet because it has not been reported what his exact role is gonna be. But they did bring Bram Brown in. He is gonna be on the big league staff and years how everything kind of shakes up on the coaching staff. So with Steven Vote taking the guardian's job, the manager job for the Guardians, Tony Arnick, who was part of the hitting team in the coach's role over the last couple of years, he's going to be the new bullpen coach, which is the role that Steven Vote felled last year. And then as a result, Brown's going to be on the staff. And they still want to add one more hitting coach to pair with Jarret to Hart at least for now, that's where everything stands. But the guy we're here to talk about is Brent Brown, who has a pretty good reputation over the years. 00:13:31 Speaker 1: He did really help out the Marlins in for their hitting last season. I mean the tweet out here highlighting just the year to year improvement they made from twenty twenty two without him to twenty twenty three with him. The average improved by twenty four points. Beyond base percentage jumped over twenty points, twenty four points of on base percentage, the slugging jumped up a massive amount, three sixty three to four h five. As a team, the WRC plus jump nine points in a strike out rate dropped by three percent. 00:14:01 Speaker 3: I think like people want all of that for. 00:14:04 Speaker 1: What happened in the Maris, especially that last number, that strikeout rate, which plummeted down from above average to like bad, actually not above average bad, twenty five percent as bad as a team, it's pretty manageable and pretty good at around twenty one percent. 00:14:18 Speaker 3: So I think people would take that. 00:14:19 Speaker 1: I mean, he has been in the Mariners system before he's made He spent five seasons in the Mariners organization starting in twenty thirteen. Used to work with Scott Service with the Texas Rangers when they were both there, and I think maybe the most important thing that people will attach onto. I mean, he's spent some time working with some pretty famous hitting coaches like Robert van Skoy, who JD. Martinez credits for most of his success and his all around balanced approach at the plate. And isn't he the guy that Jared was didn't confirm on the record, but said he was working with in the offseason. 00:14:57 Speaker 3: I think that was him, right, I. 00:14:59 Speaker 2: Think right, I think it was I think it was a couple of different people. But Van Skoy was said to have played a role in ll Nick's improvements. So yeah, so he comes from kind of a branch of some really good hitting coaches. Not to mention, I think what people here when they hear Bran Brown is not just a guy who has experienced in the organization, not just a guy who's had a good track record of success. Because, by the way, before the Marlins job, in between the Mariners and Marlin's job, he spent five years with the Dodgers, two years as the assistant hitting coach, three years as the hitting coach, including in twenty twenty when they won the World Series. So this is a guy with a good track record. And not only is JD. Martinez a guy that really likes Robert Van Skoy, and clearly Bran Brown is a guy who has had a lot of experience with Van Skoy, But who did Bran Brown just help mentor this year and help coach this year? That would be one Jorge Solaire with the Marlins, who was a free agent. So Laire and jd are both dhs. What is a position the Mariners need? Is we just referenced? Does a hitter? I've seen a lot of that on Twitter this week that people are like, well, would Jorge Hilaire follow Bran Brown to Seattle? A lot of people are interested. I would be interested. We haven't spent a whole time a ton of we haven't spent a whole ton of time breaking down Soelaria yet. Maybe we will in a future episode. But I have seen a lot of people saying that, and I think that'd be a pretty good fit. 00:16:18 Speaker 3: I think they'll be a pretty good idea. So I guess as it shakes out. 00:16:22 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how much immediate impact he would have on this roster, because again we don't know how big of a role he's going to have on the coaching staff, and as you said, he's not the primary hitting coach, So how much how much true impact he would he have on those players? 00:16:36 Speaker 3: Not totally sure, but he did make an impact with. 00:16:38 Speaker 1: The Marlins this year, and the Mariners obviously saw something and saw enough to bring him on. And now we're gonna have to see what he's going to what he's gonna achieve here in twenty twenty three. I think if he uh, I think if he brings Jorge Soilira along, I think that that that he's done his part. 00:16:56 Speaker 3: I'll say he's done his part if he if he gets Jorge Hilarire. 00:16:59 Speaker 2: Oh, that's a start. And again for a guy that's had a really good track record with being the head of a lot of good offenses. Hopefully the Mariners are the same because, as we know, they need all the help they can get cutting down on strikeouts and improving the overall consistency at the plate in twenty twenty four because it was, you know, kind of a topsy turvy road in twenty three. So hopefully Brent Brown can help out with that final thing. Or did you have one more thing you want to add? 00:17:23 Speaker 3: No, I didn't, I didn't. 00:17:24 Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, final thing and we'll just spend maybe thirty to sixty seconds on this. This news came out here on Thursday. Jake Shiner just signed a contract to go play in Japan in the NPB, so he will no longer be with the Mariners organization and he's going to go try to make a name for himself in Japan, which I understand. First off, the competition in Japan is still very good. It's similar to, if not slightly better than Triple A, and you make way more money over there than you do in minor league baseball. So credit to Jake Shiner. I'm sure he's trying to go over there, have a good year or two and maybe come back to the mayor maybe sorry not the Mariners, maybe come back to the majors and try to find a roll somewhere. 00:18:02 Speaker 1: Well, I know you gave this to me, but I'm gonna actually give it back to you. Well, how do you feel. 00:18:08 Speaker 2: Hey, it's tough out here now. I wanted to see Jake Shiner in the big leagues last year. I mean, come on, there were there were points where I was really scratching my head. Why didn't he ever get a shot? Now, he absolutely could have dached. He absolutely could have deged. Yes, like it worked out with Mike Ford for the most part, which is great, and people loved having Mike Ford around, but I do think Jake Shiner at some point could have gotten a chance. That's all I'll say. 00:18:33 Speaker 1: I think we'll have fun and he'll be significantly richer being in Japan. So awesome for Jake Shiner. I'm sure he's I'm sure he's gonna he's gonna kill it over there. It's a hitters environment too, so I think he'll I think he'll be Okay. 00:18:44 Speaker 2: Yeah, the average salary over in Japan is around It can be anywhere from one hundred and fifty thousand dollars to five hundred thousand dollars, which is way more than you're getting in Triple A. So I totally understand with. 00:18:59 Speaker 1: Sign only better living conditions too, because the American players get treated very very very very well over in Japan. So he's gonna be a lot richer and have a lot of success over there in Japan. Okay, let's get to our main subject. Let's get to the bombshell. Not really a bombshell actually, but it does regard show Heyotani and it relates to the Mariners. So Jeff Passen wrote an article this week. It's on ESPN Plus. If you have ESPN Plus, you can go read it, but just listing some of the things he's hearing out there on the free agent market. And there is a paragraph. There are a couple sentences that relate to the Mariners. So talking about shoe Heyotani, here's the paragraph we tweeted out from his article. He says, ultimately about Otani, this will come down to Otani's priorities on where he's gonna sign it. If it's money, nobody has more than the New York Mets owner Steven Cohen. If it's resonance in Japan, no relationship between team and player matches that of the Seattle Mariners in each Rosuzuki, although he puts in parentheses though, the notion that the Mariners will pay top dollar for Otani simply is not real at the moment. That is an issue. 00:20:21 Speaker 2: While Okay, I'm going to try and stay calm for as long as I possibly can on this segment. We can time me for how long I stay tamed. I'm going to preface this by saying, we know that the Mariners do not leak sources out there. They're very good about keeping information close to the vest and in house. So what reporters really really know about what the Mariners' plans are for Otani is probably limited, especially because there was a report that came out today here on Thursday saying there were some reports about if Otani takes a meeting with a team and it gets leaked out there by the team that that happened, he will hold that against them. He did against that team. He does not want information about certain meetings he's taken with certain teams to get out there in the public. That is something the Mariners did not do well last time. Everybody knew what happened. This time, they're keeping information much more in house about it. They won't talk about it, which we talked about a couple episodes ago. So I'm going to start with that. I'm going to start by saying information is probably being kept in house. Mariners don't want things to get out there. How much do reporters really know? We don't know, although Passing is very plugged in. That's the other part of this. But if this is true, yeah, I'm going to turn this back to you because again I'm going to try to stay tame for as long as I can about this. That is a real, real problem. If this is. 00:21:50 Speaker 1: True, you understand going into this offseason, what it's going to cost to land show Hoo tiny Like, you can't you can't preface it that you want to sign show Hoo Tani and they be unwilling to do what it takes to sign show Heyo Tani. It's very well that show Heo Tani might not want, might not need the total dollar around. He might not need the biggest amount. That's fine. What might worry me is not only would they not be willing to pay top dollar where if they were to offer a twelve year contract, it would not be as much as Steve Conan the Mets, or as much as the Texas Rangers, or as much as the LA Dodgers. 00:22:34 Speaker 3: I'm concerned that also means they're not. 00:22:36 Speaker 1: Offering him the years he wants, Like I could not think going into this offseason that you could get away with trying to offer show Hey like a seven or eight year contract. I just don't understand how that would make sense when you realize you have a once in a generation opportunity to sign a player of this caliber and he lays out these benchmarks of what he wants and you wouldn't meet them. Because what pass and wrote makes it sound like they're unwilling to meet some benchmarks that he has, which is an issue if you want to sign him, meet the fucking benchmarks, dude. That's why free agents are free agents, so they can negotiate, and when you don't meet their negotiations, then they won't sign there. And you want to wonder why nobody signs in Seattle. 00:23:26 Speaker 2: Okay, let's just rip the band aid off because you're getting into it. If they're seriously not going to offer him top dollar, that's just straight up unacceptable because here's what the Mariners do not have that other teams have. The Mariners do not have, Oh, I don't know, a rich history of success, playoff appearances, world series rings, or an A plus reputation. And oh, by the way, that is all on top of the fact that just less than two months ago you had players from within the organization publicly rip ownership and the front office about lack of aggression and spending. And I guarantee you show hey heard those comments or somebody in his camp did, so somebody heard those and between all of that combined, the Mariners are already at a disadvantage. Again, like I've said, I think they are in this thing. I think they're in the sweet sakes, but they are at a disadvantage for all of those reasons. So what are you selling show hay On to come here? It better start with paying him top dollar. It has to start there, because if you don't, you have gone from being an underdog in this thing to not even being at the table, Like I really really hope this is not true, and I hope this is just speculation and in house the Mariners are planning something different. But if they're serious about this and they are not willing to go out and try and acquire the best business asset in all of baseball, if you want to look at it from an ownership perspective, a guy that will double you your profits from what you try and spend on him, then what are we doing here? What are we doing? 00:25:04 Speaker 1: You don't become a billionaire by being stupid. Let me lead off with that. You don't. John Stanton did not get as rich as he did by being stupid. You have to make calculated decisions with your business, with your life that affect all of these things. To grow your profit and understand your business, understand your business model and understand what works. What about looking at show Heyo Tani and what he is brought into the Los Angeles Angels, which you could hire people to figure out how much money the Los Angeles Angels are making on show Heyo TONI let me give you a hint. It's a fuck ton of money that they're making on show Heyo Tani. You can have your people go in there and look and see how much money they're making. And I don't understand that coming back to you and you realizing and still thinking that investing money in a product that will return to you significantly more wouldn't be worth it. I don't get that. And you know what, I also don't like lyle Well. I also don't like some of the notions that have been coming out in the last week. The fact that the names that we've heard from Shoho Tani, whether how legitimate they are or not, but they are whispers floating around and they've probably entered and left Show Hayes camp in some capacity. How are the Mariners supposed to compete if if the name's getting thrown around or the Texas Rangers in the Atlanta Braves, what do the Mariners have to offer against those teams? Like what they won't outspend those teams. They don't have a win. Those two teams have won the World Series in the last three years. They can't offer that. They can't offer a promise to try and win because they haven't shown that either, Like what are they like? 00:26:43 Speaker 3: You can't do. 00:26:44 Speaker 1: Anything if you're competing against that. So if that's what show Hay's looking at. 00:26:47 Speaker 3: Like you half asking it doesn't like you had like literally would have no chance. 00:26:52 Speaker 2: If that's the case, the number one way to take yourself out of these sweepstakes is to not pay him what he is asking to be paid. And again, you want to go listen to past podcast episodes from a year ago with how the Mariners approached the off season, I was much more on board. I understood not overpaying for Turner. I understood not overpaying for boguards. I understood not overpaying for Korea and guys like that. Because one I thought that the process they took at the time was okay. They had had a good offense the year prior, and I thought this whole time. My thought this whole time has been they are saving for this, they are planning for this, they're gearing up for this. That The reason they weren't spending all those previous off seasons is they are allocating funds to give show Hey what he wants. And now we're hearing rumblings that, oh, they're not going to pay him top dollar. If you're not going to pay that guy top dollar, who are you going to pay top dollar? Two? The answer is nobody. If show Hey chooses to go to the Dodgers, if the Mariners put their best foot forward, make a great sales pitch, do everything they can and offer him the money he is looking for. But he says, I would rather stay in southern California. I'd rather play with the Dodgers. This is my choice. I would be upset, I'd be devastated, But that is his choice. You cannot force him to play here. But if we hear that the Mariners are not willing to give it everything it takes, like, then again, what are we doing? Like what are what are we wasting our time on? Like yeah, like, man, John stan really does live rent free in my head like all the time, I swear it's yeah. 00:28:32 Speaker 1: If the Maritors are unwilling to pay top dollar, then fans should also not pay top dollar. 00:28:38 Speaker 3: Like that's it like, that's that's how it rolls. 00:28:41 Speaker 1: And if that public information becomes public and it comes out, and fan should absolutely not pay top dollar if that's the case. There's one other concerning thing I would say kind of related to the off season, and this was regarding one Soto, I mean more from Jeff pass In. So he was talking about the Wan Soto trade and about the Padres payroll issues and saying, well, trading Wonsta is the only logical solution to the Padres payroll issue. Pass And says the Yankees, Cubs, and Mariners have what the Padres want in near MLB ready starting pitching, but he said Chicago and Seattle would likely not. 00:29:16 Speaker 3: Trade those pitchers. 00:29:19 Speaker 1: So we can either think about this in a baseball since, which is what Jerry thinks in of not wanting to trade his young pitchers for one year of Juan Soda. 00:29:30 Speaker 3: But then you can flip it around. 00:29:32 Speaker 1: And say, okay, we've also talked about at some point it doesn't matter anymore because you need to win and you need to prove to your players that you care. And from that report, it sounds like the Mariners would not trade what is necessary for Juan Soto. Slight level less level concern because it's not a consensus on this podcast whether or not the Mariners should trade for him. 00:29:56 Speaker 3: But with that. 00:29:56 Speaker 1: Report doesn't sound like they would be willing to break the bank for a great hitter. 00:30:05 Speaker 2: I am less heartbroken about that than I would about Otani, because again, it is a risk. What if Juan Soto was traded for a haul, got to Seattle, they missed the playoffs again, and then obviously he's walking in free agency. He's walking in free agency no matter what. So what if it was a total disaster and then due to that you lose Brian wu who goes and pitches at the front of San Diego's rotation for the next six years, Like that would be kind of a tough pill to swallow. So again, like what, I like one soda to play for the Mariner's Sure, Yeah, I also know it would only be one year because he's gonna hit free agency and probably leave, and that costs prospects, Like trading for a guy like that costs a lot. The reason this is such an issue with show, Hey, you do not have to give up prospects. You do not have to sacrifice one single player on your team. It is money and money alone, and money that you have not spent in off season after off season now, and I again, I can't stress this enough. I figured this was the plan all along. But if they're not gonna shell out what it takes to get Otani, then I don't know what in the world we're doing. 00:31:13 Speaker 3: I guess we'll have to see don't you love the off season? Well, so I do, think about it this. 00:31:17 Speaker 1: Way, think about it this way. Wait, well, we have what about two weeks until winter meetings, and Show Hey should sign before then. From I guess everything that we heard, he's supposed to sign before then, So uh buckle up. 00:31:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, I hope we we like. I hope we come back on this podcast in a couple couple weeks and retract everything we just said. I hope in two weeks we're on here singing John Stanton's praises. If John Stanton signed Show Hey Otani, I won't say a bad word about him for like a decade, Like I swear, like if he goes and shells out the money and Lanza Tani, you won't hear me say his name in bad light ever again. But I really hope this report is just a report, and the Mariners are planning to do something different because to not even try to pay them top dollar, you're not giving yourselves a chance. 00:32:10 Speaker 1: Before we get to our MLB wrap around, let's hear a word from Simply Seattle. The holidays are approaching. You might be thinking, what am I supposed to get everybody? What am I supposed to get my sports loving Pacific Northwest family? 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Garrett Cole takes it for the American League. Blake Snell takes it for the National League. Huge shockers, huge shockers, sarcas. 00:33:40 Speaker 2: I don't think any of the awards were shockers. The cy Youngs certainly were not. Blake Snell got twenty eight out of thirty votes. Garrett Cole was unanimous. I think it was a long time coming for both of those guys. I think it was pretty obvious both of them were gonna win, and they deserved it. 00:33:56 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I saw the stat Blake Snell had the fewest like small like he had the smallest average start ever for a cy Young winner, Which that's kind of a bonker's stat that he you can average under six innings pitch and still win a cy Young Award. That's that's pretty bonkers. But Blake snow pulled it off, led the UH, led the National League in walks, and it worked out for him. Congrats Hope, you're a Mariner soon Blake, And not much mystery with the MVP awards either. A couple of unanimous decisions, the first time ever there's been two unanimous MVPs in a season, Shoho Tani and Ronald Acunya, two very deserving candidates. 00:34:33 Speaker 2: I did get a laugh out of Jeff Passing going and replying to his tweet from a month or two ago where he compared Mooki's stats to Ronald Acunia's stats and he said, I don't think Akunya is a runaway for the MVP award anymore, and pass and then replied to it tonight saying, no, Akunya ran away with it, you dumb ass, like replying to himself saying that, so Passing's always fun in that way, like like he's he's good hearted about a lot of that stuff. I gotta laugh out of that tweet. But yes, in terms of the actual award winners, I don't think anybody's shocked. I think it didn't matter at all that show Hey missed the last month or so of the season. He had locked it up already, and Acunya went forty seventy. So that's what happens when you do that, you win an MVP. 00:35:16 Speaker 3: Not impressive according to the Cubs, though. 00:35:18 Speaker 2: No it's not. It's not impressive at all. And he shouldn't be celebrating it. 00:35:22 Speaker 1: Right, No, No, he should have just put his head down. So not much drama in the awards, So just not much to talk about there, but something to note. 00:35:32 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there were two other awards to give out, so Gunnar Henderson ran away with the ALE Rookie of the Year, Corman Carroll Shocker ran away with NL Rookie of the Year, and then Brandon Hyde won ALE Manager of the Year, skipped Schumacher and what was actually a pretty close race one NL Manager of the Year, Schumacher of all the races was the closest. But those were the four big awards. I don't think anybody's shocked with any of the winners. And I will say, for the Mariner's sake, you had Luis Castillo finished fifth in CY Young voting, George Kirby finished eighth, and then with the MVP voting, you had three guys in the top twenty. You had Julio finished fourth, he had JP finished seventeenth, and he had cal Raley finished eighteenth. So look the Mariners did not have their best offensive season, but you got three guys that finished top twenty and MVP voting. You know what, I think it should probably add to that. 00:36:19 Speaker 1: Hey, shout out to cal Rawle. He getting on the MVP ballot, and. 00:36:24 Speaker 2: It wasn't a Mariner's reporter that gave him the vote, so he got an eighth place vote, but it was from somebody with the twins. So shout out cal Raley. You're getting noticed around the league when you put up nearly a five win season. That's what happens. 00:36:37 Speaker 1: It's pretty bonkers. Yeah, i'manna be honest. If I had a vote like I wouldn't have given cal rowleing in eighth place to MVP vote, would you. 00:36:46 Speaker 2: I don't know. We were talking about this earlier. After the first five, it's really hard to dissect all of them. It's like, this guy should finish sixth, this guy should absolutely finish seven, this guy, no doubt should finish eighth. I think it can vary. I don't know. Cal Riley put up nearly five wins, he hit thirty bombs, which led all catchers. I'm not saying he's the first person I think up to give an eighth place vote. I don't think it's crazy, Like he had a really good year. 00:37:13 Speaker 3: It shout out to him. 00:37:14 Speaker 1: Hopefully there's something in his contract or he gets an accelerator or something that'll be good. Oh oh, you can use that in arbitration. Actually, now, yeah, that's good. Hey, look look at that MVP vote. That works out for him. So, speaking of the Cubs, they did make some news in the past week. They essentially told David Ross to fuck off, like they said at the end of the season that David Ross was their manager for twenty twenty four, and then they went out and they hired Craig Council behind his back and made him the highest paid manager in baseball. Like, this is a very weird scenario where like they're going to double pay a manager that they had a manager who actually had a pretty successful season this year and is at a decent track record as a skip and then they go behind his back and hire somebody in division, like an Indivision Rivals skipper and. 00:38:07 Speaker 3: They bring him in. 00:38:08 Speaker 1: That's such the weirdest thing that Craig Council is now going to manage the Cubs in twenty twenty four. 00:38:16 Speaker 2: I figured he was going to the Mets. I think just about everybody did, considering David Stearns went there. They needed a new manager. It seemed like the perfect fit didn't happen, goes to the Cubs. I'm with you. I didn't think David Ross was going anywhere. I thought he was in perfect position to keep managing, but apparently not. Look, Craig Council is regarded across the league as arguably the best manager in baseball. So maybe the Cubs saw this as an opportunity to upgrade at that position, and maybe they figured they could get better in some of the game managing areas, and maybe they figured he was just the man for the job. So here we are again. You don't really see this often. You don't often see a manager that's in place and then all of a sudden, Oh, you're just getting replaced. Like you'll see managers get fired and then they find a replacement. But for a manager to just get replaced like that on a whim, that is not normal. 00:39:09 Speaker 1: And managers, I don't think they're worth enough wins, like personally delayed to do that, because if you get a great player, say, I don't know the Mariners acquire Okay, see the Mariners acquire Yandi Diaz right, like ty France is under contract, but ty France is no longer playing first base. 00:39:27 Speaker 3: Like sorry, like Yandi Diaz is playing first But. 00:39:30 Speaker 1: Managers like Craig Council's regarded as one of the best managers baseball, but like, how much different with the Cubs Ross? Like, how many more wins do they have with Craig Council opposed to David Ross, Like maybe one or two? 00:39:45 Speaker 2: They must figure he could really help sales pitch some free agents, because this is a team that lost probably their best hitter in Cody Bellinger, who's currently a free agent. We'll see where he goes. Their second best arm in Marcus Stroman opted out of his contract, so he's currently a free agent, and there's talks that they're in the oh Tonic sweepstakes. So maybe they figure Counsel can help with that. Maybe they think he is part of a sales pitch. Maybe he thinks they think he can be a difference maker in recruiting some of these guys. We'll see, But it is very odd that this happened the way it happened. 00:40:19 Speaker 1: If you were Cody Bellinger, Like what if you really like David Ross and you saw that, like, you wouldn't want to sign back, would you. 00:40:27 Speaker 2: I think whoever offers Cody Bellinger the money is where he's signing. Maybe that plays a little bit of a factor. But if you're Scott Boris and you said, hey, the Cubs are going to offer you a huge contract. They're paying you the most of any team. But oh, by the way, they have a new manager, that's where he's going. That's how Scott Boris rolls. 00:40:47 Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. Okay, final bit of news in the mob rap round. It is official. The A's relocation has been approved by the thirty owners of Major League Baseball in a unanimous Fox and LC. The most important thing to come out of this file is that nobody was hurting in this situation more than John Fisher. 00:41:10 Speaker 2: A tough day for Oakland, as he put it. Yeah, that felt really heartfelt, buddy. I'm sure you are sobbing at the idea. You do have to feel for A's fans as two people who talk about having to watch the Sonics leave their hometown. Me probably a little bit more than you, But we did have to watch it happen, which was devastating as kids. The city of Oakland has lost three teams now in somewhat of a short time span. They've lost the A's, They've lost the Warriors. The Warriors are still in town, but they're not in Oakland anymore. And they lost the Raiders. Like that's brutal. They have lost three professional teams in a pretty short time span. And to see it happen with the A's like this, like, obviously you feel for A's fans, you feel that they're not going to be in town anymore. You feel for them that they can upgrade the stadium or chose not to upgrade the stadium, and yeah, now they're going to Vegas. 00:42:05 Speaker 1: Like the optics of this move, I just I literally cannot it over it like the Bay Areas Market six and a. Again, billionaires are usually pretty smart in terms of business product. Taking a team in market six and putting them in like market what's Vegas like thirty forty. 00:42:28 Speaker 2: Like that or something like that? 00:42:29 Speaker 3: How did that? How does the money work? 00:42:31 Speaker 1: Like it's almost inviting on just to get a tax break on a stadium to move a team and significantly diminish what po potential revenue you can get although he said though once he gets to Vegas, he's going to start spending money, which is not true. 00:42:48 Speaker 3: He's not spending money. 00:42:51 Speaker 2: And they're also not going to have a fan base. 00:42:53 Speaker 3: No like, who's going to go to the games. 00:42:58 Speaker 2: Not Oakland A's fan. People from Oakland are not gonna support the team in Vegas. People in Vegas probably won't be interested because for the most part, people are either snowbirds in Vegas or they have teams previously and have moved there recently. That's just how it goes. So I don't know who's gonna be a fan of the A's. And I'll tell you what we thought the A's were bad the last two years. What are games gonna look like this year in Oakland? Oh my god, I mean, nobody's gonna sign there this winner. Literally nobody, even even Trevor May signed with the A's last winner, right like he gave the A's a chance. They actually gave him a decent chunk of money he decided he wanted to play there. There's not gonna be any of that this year. I don't think anybody's going to sign in Oakland. There's gonna be even less fans at the games. I mean, it's gonna be a disaster. 00:43:42 Speaker 1: And the stadium got delayed another season. They are gonna be without a home for three seasons twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, and twenty twenty seven, in. 00:43:53 Speaker 2: Which they say their home games will sometimes be played at Oracle Park in San Francisco when the Giants aren't there, or they're gonna be played at the tree A Park in Vegas. I feel like that's honestly the better solution. It's not like you're gonna fill up that ballpark anyway in Vegas. So yeah, the new ballpark's not gonna be ready for a while, and here we are. It's it's a disaster of a situation. We've talked about it before. Now it's official, and yeah, you just feel for you just feel for A's fans. It's it's a tough, tough scene. 00:44:21 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a tough scene. 00:44:23 Speaker 1: And it just so clear like if there was any ounce of care of care in this situation, like the team is essentially going to be in no man's land for four seasons before they even start to like build up a rapport with the city of Vegas before they even start. So that's yeah, it's just kind of stinky. How are they gonna be on TV in Vegas while they play in Oakland? Like, what's the deal there? 00:44:48 Speaker 2: I have no idea. That's a great question. I'm sure we'll find out more as time goes on. Do we think these guys are gonna have a single season above five hundred in the next decade and I'll start it from twenty two. In that ten year span, are they gonna have a single season where they're over five hundred? 00:45:04 Speaker 1: Over five hundred, maybe playoffs, snow top fifteen payroll? Absolutely not. 00:45:12 Speaker 2: They are a disaster. I know. We talked about John Stanton a decent amount on this show, and he certainly gives some Mariners fans nightmares at times. But in the grand scheme of things, if you remember when we had Bobby Wagner on the podcast of Tipping Pitches, a guy who knows a lot about baseball ownership, he said, look, the Mariners ownership is probably somewhere in the middle, because you could be John Fisher instead. 00:45:34 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you could. You want to debut this last segment? Low was your idea? 00:45:39 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. So we've got a new segment. We're going to try to do it about once a month, and we're calling it ruthless replies. I will say we got the idea from two friends of the podcast who do a show together. I'd be Brock Heward and Mike Salk. They'd do Brock and Salk every morning from Monday through Friday on Seattle Sports. They've both been on the podcast, and about once a week they do a segment called mean Tweets where they read a lot of funny tweets that people have to say about either Brock or Sock. I feel like these days they are much more about Brock when he's doing football broadcasts on Saturdays. But that got TJ and I thinking and saying, you know, we get some pretty hilarious replies sometimes on our social media accounts and on our YouTube channel of things that people have to say. So we're like, you know, we could read some of these and go through some of them and just react to them. 00:46:27 Speaker 3: Okay, you want me to go. 00:46:28 Speaker 2: First, I do, but I do want to say one thing before we start. Go ahead, not doing to speak your mind this week, but I'm gonna give you a little bit of a shout out here really quick. You're gonna be busy here on Friday morning, aren't you. 00:46:40 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, speaking of Brock and Salt, I'm gonna be making my Brock and Salt to debut at eight thirty tomorrow. So when this comes out, if you're an early listener, you might actually get to uh listen live. 00:46:50 Speaker 3: So that's that's pretty exciting. So shout out to that. 00:46:53 Speaker 1: I'll have to mention that we we uh oh you know, no, man, I'll think about it, like if we do a similar or mean tweet segment, I'm shocked if we want to copy something, you know, maybe I'm glad we're not doing. 00:47:05 Speaker 2: Ranked there we go. Yeah, So to clarify, TJ is not going to be talking about the Mariners as far as we know. Maybe they'll bring it up with him at the end. We'll see he'll be on there talking about Oregon State because Oregon State in Washington are playing this weekend. But if you're listening to this podcast, you should go listen to TJ on Seattle Sports here on Friday morning. And if you listen to the podcast here after TJ has already been on, well, then you can go listen to the Brockens Talk podcast where you can listen whatever you want, and he'll be on it there, So. 00:47:34 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. It should be it should be very exciting. So they do a great job and we're glad to glad to inspire us on the segment. 00:47:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So if you're a YouTube listener, there's not going to be a music bet under this. We apologize, we don't want to get copyrighted. But if you're listening on the audio side, there will be music under this. So let's get it started. I give TJ a couple to read. I'll start, and I'll stay on theme with our show here today because on the topic of show Heyo Tani, we have gotten some show Heyo Tani replies, believe me when we have talked about show hey on past shows, and what are odds of getting him. I think TJ put it about ten percent. I put it somewhere between twenty five and thirty percent. Again, I think the Mariners ultimately are in the sweepstakes, but we have some people that feel otherwise. We got a couple. We got one reply that says absolute delusion. Delusion from anyone in this fan base that thinks we're getting Otani. Give it a rest already that's one on the show Hey topic. There's another that says, this is such wishful thinking. Ohtani wants to be on a World Series focused team that is not on the Mariners. They will not spend to create the roster capable of hitting the ball top to bottom of the lineup. Okay, that is that is somewhat similar to what we just talked about on the show Hey segment today. But beside the point, we got another that says keep hopping the hopium and then a fine one that says zero percent chance on Otani. People were fired up about it. 00:49:06 Speaker 1: Wait if we're talking about percent, so I know percents were a very big thing this offseason, and people had a little bit more to say about percent. In fact, every time I see fifty four percent, it's an instant block. You're continuing the nonsensically stupid interpretation of something that was explained. 00:49:25 Speaker 3: Come on, Lyle. 00:49:27 Speaker 2: So for reference, we put out a social media post of there's a there's a popular TikTok trend that's a cap cut thing that's going on right now. It's it's a scene from the diary of a Wimpy Kid movie. And we put that together related it to the Mariners, and we had a fifty four percent joke in there, and we've got somebody reply and saying this is unacceptable. It's an instant block. You don't get it. It's like we didn't say it, we didn't put the quotes out there. We heard it, and we're laughing at it, just like everybody else seems to be over the life last month. I'll tell you what you think, we're the only people out there putting out fifty four percent jokes. You're not spending enough time on social media because I'll tell you what, if you ever ever just go search fifty four percent on Twitter, it never ends. It never ever ends. 00:50:16 Speaker 1: I told you the fifty four percent is never going away loud. We need to do our part. We have to do our part in keeping the fifty four percent alive. 00:50:24 Speaker 3: Man. 00:50:25 Speaker 2: We warn't it a block like. I don't know how many people have us blocked on social media here in the first year or so of doing it. I don't think it's that many. But who Somebody was not love to see that list. Somebody was not happy about that fifty four percent joke. Man. I figured it was a. 00:50:41 Speaker 3: Shito, such a harmless joke and people. 00:50:45 Speaker 1: Some people also, well don't appreciate our our language, great enthusiasm, and info boys, except for the cratuitous dropping of F bombs. 00:50:55 Speaker 3: Now I can't watch you with my grandson. Well shit. 00:51:03 Speaker 2: Yet, So we appreciate the though we've gone from getting blocked and losing followers to I mean I say losing followers. We essentially lost one there's the one that we know of to now apparently, according to these ruthless replies, we're cutting off our audience. Okay, listen, in all seriousness, like, we talked to some people before we started the podcast, and what people kind of talk to us about is, look, you don't want to make it like you don't want to sound like sailors, right, but it's not radio. You're supposed to kind of let your personality out there. And people kind of told us, look, when when you casually throw in some words like that left and right, it shows that you're loose. You're not super worried, you're not all tense. You just talk how you talk. I genuinely think like if you were a listener and you were ever to talk to TJ and I about the Mariners away from this podcast and you talk to us. I don't think it would sound that different than the way we sound now. It's it's two people and the two of us that just like to talk to the men. We do it the two of us off camera all the time, and I think that remains true. And I think we swear a decent amount in those conversations, honestly, probably a lot more than we do on this podcast. 00:52:11 Speaker 1: So oh, I definitely cuss way more in person than I do on this. I do tone it down quite a bit, I don't I don't think. I don't think many parents would approve of this podcast if I, uh. 00:52:22 Speaker 3: I let it lose. So you're welcome, Yeah, you're welcome. 00:52:25 Speaker 2: We're we're actually thinking of you. 00:52:27 Speaker 3: We're thinking of you. Think of it as a benefit exactly. 00:52:31 Speaker 2: Okay, I've got two quick ones and then we've got we've certainly got one to kind of cap it all off. So what's now our most viewed video on Instagram is this This funny social media trend I did about Sho Heo Tani and it's with a Chief Keith song in the background, And it was just supposed to be a joke, funny enough. I figured it would just get a couple of laughs. Maybe some people would like it, and somehow it just kind of caught win because it just kept going and going and going. Although somebody was happy about it, the context of it relating to show hey needs to be a Mariner, and somebody replied saying, take this corny shit down, bro, with a bunch of crying emojis. I guess, I guess somebody was offended by it. I felt like the least offensive possible post you can make it back. I don't speak a word in it, but somebody was not happy about it. I did nothing but stand there and put my hands on my hips for about two seconds, and somebody did not lucky to. 00:53:24 Speaker 1: You, Lyle, But it's really someone is cringing watching you do that. Just think of hell, think of that, think of that concept. 00:53:31 Speaker 2: Yeah, I ruined someone's day, you know who? You know, who else's day? We ruined somebody about a month ago when we had who else but Mike's Salck on the podcast, who by the way, was a great guest and a lot of people really enjoy it. We certainly enjoyed them, but we did have a reply. Now this all ties in with mean tweets. Now it's intertwining. It says, turned it off when Salt came on, I won't be back. Does that not sound a lot like some of the mean tweets that Salt gets. 00:54:04 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes that No, that sounds exactly like what they get. Like it's like I started listening until like Salk said this, and I'm like never listening to the show ever again. 00:54:15 Speaker 3: And it like it's true to form nothing. 00:54:17 Speaker 1: About what Sulk said, nothing about disagreeing with this point, just like, no, I will not listen. 00:54:22 Speaker 4: To your podcast ever again. Well, oh well, shot to the heart. Yeah, shot to the heart. Okay, in the most perfect fashion. There is only one way we can end this because again, about a month or so ago, what were we talking about while we were talking about Hector n Nearis. 00:54:43 Speaker 2: Because allegedly he said some things to Julio after that strikeout in the final series that we're just not okay. You saw Julio and Gino get very animated about it for good reason. So we talked about it and we basically said, yeah, we stand by with what Julio and Gina were send saying was set and who happens to find these clips TJ? Nobody else than Houston Astros fans people who have nothing else to do in their lives but spend time looking for people who are trashing their franchise, and then they are going to waste their time screaming in reply. So we got a couple. We got a couple in classic fashion that says, salty tears are the taste ces. Yeah, I've never heard that one before. Astros. Oh stay salty. Yeah, your fan base sucks. There's one. We got another that says emotional, soft, biased and generalized. Take enjoy y'all's last game that was number two and number three. To cap it all off, we got one that says, eh, maybe next year, Marina boys. You put Marina in parentheses, I should say in all caps, maybe next year, Marina boys. If that's the worst you've ever heard in baseball, you haven't been watching baseball very long. The commentary of this video is high school news at best. 00:56:09 Speaker 3: Apparently, while we don't watch enough ball. 00:56:12 Speaker 2: Not only do we not watch enough ball and not no ball. He's essentially, I guess, calling us girls, because what are we were the Marine layer pod, but he's calling us marina. If I'm picking up on that, right, I guess he's calling us girls, which I don't even know if that's supposed to be an insult, but if I'm picking up on that right in his mind, I guess he thinks it is. And he says that we are a bunch of high school newscasters trying to talk so here we are just nothing. 00:56:37 Speaker 1: Astros fans love more than to just bring the spin zone into everything. 00:56:42 Speaker 3: We're somehow, somehow, what Hector Nira said was our. 00:56:45 Speaker 2: Fault again, like the fifty four percent thing. We didn't say it. We didn't say it, like that was your player on your team that essentially said what he said allegedly, and we're just sitting here talking about it. But again, these people, I swear they must have some Google Advanced Search option turned on on all their computers and phones. I don't know how they find all this stuff so easily, but they find it, and they always seem to want to reply to anybody that has something to say it is. It is incredible. 00:57:17 Speaker 1: I will say at the conclusion of all of this, please keep it spicy and a replies because it is very, very very entertaining. 00:57:26 Speaker 3: You got to stand out, try and make it on this segment. 00:57:29 Speaker 2: You have to I thought that was a fun first segment. And again, we're not gonna do this every single show, but about once a month or so, we're going to try to compile all of the funniest replies we've gotten, either on our social channels or on our YouTube channel, and we're gonna read them off. So maybe this will inspire some people to start making burner accounts and just leave us hilarious replies in goal to get on this segment. So I'm down. I'm down too. Yeah, I don't know. I had a bunch of fun with that. When we get these replies, we usually just laugh at them, and we knew when we started this. We said, look, if we eventually ever continue to kind of build this up, there are people that aren't going to like what we say. That's just true with anybody ever that's in content creation or podcasting. But if you can laugh about it, it makes it a whole lot easier to brush it off. And usually, truthfully, I'm saying this from the bottom of both of our hearts, we usually laugh about it because usually, honestly, the replies are pretty funny. So I hope you guys enjoyed that a little bit. We certainly enjoyed it, and about a month from now we'll probably bring it back. But that'll just about wrap it up for this edition of the Marine Layer Podcast. You guys know the drill. You want to listen to the full form podcast, you can do so on the audio side. Wherever you find your podcast, go follow us, download our episodes, leave us a five star review over there. Those reviews and downloads, they do help us out a bunch, so just take a few extra seconds to do that, and then head over to YouTube. Give us a like, two, give us a like, subscribe, leave a comment, let us know what your thoughts are. 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