Episode 249: Cole Young (Mariners Infielder)

[00:00:00] Welcome to episode number 249 of the Marine Layer Podcast. We welcome on a very special guest, the newest Seattle Mariner, second baseman Cole Young. We sat down in Tacoma with him last Thursday, the day before he got promoted. We'll talk about Cole's mustache, his hot stretch in Tacoma that led to his promotion, and a variety of other fun topics. We'll also talk a little bit about why the Mariners decided to call up Cole Young now, as opposed to a little bit later on down the road.

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[00:01:10] And we welcome you to this episode of the Marine Layer Podcast, part of the Just Baseball Podcast Network. Recording on Sunday evening, June 1st, a stressful weekend of games for the Mariners. A very happy weekend for Cole Young. We have plenty to talk about with him, but Lyle, I have one thing to say at the start. One thing. And I mentioned this to you before we started recording. Shout out to Cal Raleigh for making this episode possible.

[00:01:37] What happens with this episode today and Cole Young's debut in this interview, Lyle, if Cal Raleigh doesn't go nuclear yet again? I think people would still be pretty interested to hear from Cole Young because he's the biggest positional player prospect to get called up for the Mariners since Julio. That being said, some of the air would have been taken out of the balloon of it, that's for sure, because if Cal hadn't just gone...

[00:02:01] Well, I don't want to use gone nuclear because you just used that, but if he hadn't just put on an absolute clinic over the last week, and especially against the Twins... Yeah, we're probably sitting here talking about a series sweep and Cole never gets the chance in the tent to walk it off. And people are saying to themselves, well, I'm happy to see Cole Young, but this team's free-falling. Yeah, it's like, I'd love some positivity about Cole Young, but I'm kind of pissed off right now.

[00:02:27] I'd rather vent a little bit than sit here and think of positive things. That's why the winning matters here so much and allows us a little bit more freedom of things we can actually talk about. So, shout out to Cal. I do want to spend a lot more time on Cal for Wednesday's episode. Just for people who are curious about, I'd say, the formatting of the next two episodes. This episode's going to take more of the idea of our normal Wednesday episode. Since Cole debuted over the weekend, yeah, his interview's coming out here today on Monday.

[00:02:55] And our more analysis storyline episode will be out on Wednesday instead. And I would love to spend a lot of time on this dude, Cal Raleigh, because he's blowing my mind on what he's doing at the plate or at the park. You hear the sound off the bat, and you just start laughing that a catcher, a Seattle Mariners catcher, heading in the worst hitters park in Major League Baseball, leads all of baseball in home runs.

[00:03:23] It literally, literally does not compute. But that'll be Wednesday. So, look forward to that. We'll have plenty of time to talk about Cal. But how about the weekend for Cole Young, too? What about the storyline of Saturday? Just how you're a big prospect making a debut and you just happen to walk it off in your debut? Is that what you mean? The exact same walk-off swing he had on Thursday. Yeah. In his final full game in Tacoma.

[00:03:52] It was a walk-off ground ball fielder's choice to the first baseman, throw home, throw is late. Cole walked it off in Tacoma, and then he walked it off in the exact same way in Seattle on Saturday, which is kind of crazy, but I think it was even cooler than that. Well, I don't know about cooler because that was a walk-off. But in the ninth inning, when the Mariners were trying to rally a game-winning offensive set in regulation, Cole Young ripped his first big league hit.

[00:04:18] Like, that was a well-placed, well-struck single right out to right field in what was crunch time. So that was pretty cool, too. In the context of Cole Young's debut, and I can't wait to see how he's going to play over these first few weeks and how he's going to acclimate to the big league level, and he'd been just so dominant at Tacoma. I really think he forced the Mariners' hand, but we'll get to that here in a second. Just the context of his debut, Lyle. Someone tweeted this out. I don't have the tweet in front of me, but you mentioned it at the start.

[00:04:48] He's the biggest positional player prospect to debut since Julio Rodriguez back in 2022, and he's the first—if you were to go even more specific to top—it's like top five Mariner prospect that's an infielder. Was it Cattell? Might have been Hacked. That was the last one? No, it was Cattell. Because Cattell was a top five Mariners prospect. Oh, okay, then yeah. Not top five baseball prospect. Right.

[00:05:18] Yeah, then that's right. Cattell Marte. In 2015, that would have been. And then the last infielder period was— Oh, it was Evan White, I think. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, top five positional player prospect, Julio in 22. Top five infield prospect, Evan White, 2020. And then top five middle infield prospect, Cattell Marte, 2015. I believe that is.

[00:05:46] And if you want to add one more little ripple to this equation, he's the first guy of the next wave. We've seen this wave of guys come up over the last couple—or over the last few years, basically in bunches. And we saw a lot of them debut anywhere from 21 to 23 or so. Basically from Jared Kelnick, Logan Gilbert, like May of 21, all the way to Bryce Miller, Brian Wu in 2023 when those guys got up.

[00:06:14] Because that's been where this wave of the nuclear guys of this team have kind of come up to really contribute. And you talk about the big contributors. But this next wave, Cole Young, Colt Emerson, Johnny Farmello, Laz Montez, like those guys, this is the first guy of the next wave. So it's pretty exciting that more talent's on the way, and Cole's just the first one. So let's dive into why the Mariners decided now was the right time to call him up. Let me ask, why did the Mariners decide to call up Cole Young right now?

[00:06:46] In a nutshell, because he's been really hot down in Tacoma for about a month. I don't think the Mariners thought he was that far away from being big league ready in spring training. But he obviously dealt with some injuries in the spring, which kept him a little bit sidelined at times. And the fact that the Mariners infield needs some offensive help. Now, like we said on Sunday on social media, let me say it again here.

[00:07:12] I'm begging every Mariners fan out there to not put insane levels of expectations on Cole Young. This is not to say you shouldn't expect him to be good, because he's a good player. And he should be a good player. But I don't want to see a repeat of Jared Kelnick all over again. Because that's not a fair thing to put on somebody as young as Cole Young. No pun intended. But somebody that young and somebody that inexperienced in his rookie year.

[00:07:40] He can help this offense for sure. To ask him to save it is not fair. I don't think he's going to save it. I don't think he's going to need to save it. Do you feel like there are some people that have Jared Kelnick expectations? I do feel like a lot of the Kelnick discourse back at that point. First of all, it helped he was a top five prospect in all of baseball. Second, I think the personality of Jared and the image and the high billing he was as a prospect.

[00:08:09] He was in the Diaz trade. He was... Well, we say Cole was the first of this next wave. Jared was the first of this wave period. Of this era of Mariners baseball. Was it not? Yeah. So therefore, you know, the circumstances of this are a little different. Yeah, it's different. It's not the exact same. But again, like I've seen... I've seen a lot of comments that we've gotten. Or that people have had on social media about like the offense.

[00:08:39] We need Cole Young. We need Cole Young. We need a savior. And look, the Mariners felt like he was ready. Deservedly so. So they called him up. I just... If he is not... If he's not absolutely tearing the world on fire in the first month of his big league career, I just don't want to have to deal with discourse of people saying they rushed him up and send him back down. He wasn't ready. It's like, well, weren't you the same people screaming for him to be called up two weeks ago? This is what I'm trying to avoid here.

[00:09:07] There are going to be some things I think Cole Young helps out with with this offense. I seriously think so. I think the second base position for the Seattle Mariners right now is much more talented than it was before he got called up. And that's a really good thing. Because you should always try to have your best major league players on your roster at all times. And the Mariners thought of Cole Young as a major league player, which is why he's on the roster. I will say, though, while second base talent-wise definitely needed an upgrade,

[00:09:37] second basemen for the Mariners this year have been productive as a group. You might not like the overall production for the season of the players who have played second base for the Mariners. But while these players have been on the dirt playing at second base this season, the Mariners second base group has a 718 OPS. That includes Dylan Moore, includes Myles Mastroboni, it includes Leo Rivas, Ryan Bliss, and Jorge Polanco.

[00:10:04] Before Cole Young came in and started the last two games at second base. So yeah, it might seem like, hey, the Mariners need an upgrade at second base. And believe me, I've been right there and saying, yeah, they need more talent on the infield. Cole Young's not walking into a position that's rolling out a 400 OPS or 500 OPS. Like the Mariners have had seasons in the past where it's just a black hole offensively at second base.

[00:10:30] Because that's not really been the case production-wise this season for that. So I just want to kind of set those parameters here as we talk about this. Like, let's not twist what has actually happened and what the results have happened so far this season. But happy for Cole, because he definitely deserves to come up. If you look at what he did in Tacoma, there was no weakness in what he did down in Tacoma. Didn't strike out. Walked a ton. Hit the ball extremely hard.

[00:11:00] Arm Layton loves to use this stat, so I'm going to throw it out there too. EV 90. So we talk about exit velocities all the time. But EV 90 is not your top tier, but what's your 90th percentile exit velocity? How consistently are you getting up close to your top level EV? EV and Cole Young, whichever one you look at, has been really good this year when it comes to hitting the ball consistently hard and getting that top-end exit velocity.

[00:11:30] The quality of contact is really good. Doesn't chase. Consistently hits the ball hard. Hits the ball in the right spots. 24 games in Tacoma, Lyle, since May 30, he's hitting over 400 with an on-base percentage over 500. And slugging nearly 800. Most times that's going to be enough to give you a shot at the big leagues. And while the Mariners had their perception preseason, hey, he's pretty close, their eyes then told him, yeah, I think he's figured it out and it's time for him to come up. Yeah, that's exactly right.

[00:11:58] Even in April when he was struggling just by the basic eye test numbers, all the underlying stuff said, look, he's getting a little unlucky early on. He was hitting balls hard. They just weren't falling. And then May, you saw the total 180. Because in May, he had one of the best offensive months he's ever had. And it was, yeah, like you said, and he did everything right. You saw him tap into the power more. We talked about that with Joe Doyle. Continued to draw the walks. He didn't strike out. Approach was good. Uses all fields.

[00:12:28] Compared with the Mariners believing that he wasn't that far off to begin the year and then putting together the month that he had in AAA, yeah, that's enough. The Mariners did not want to rush him. And that's the right thing to do. Cole Young has had plenty of minor league at-bats now. He's had a lot of minor league at-bats in his career. That was not the case for Kelnick, if you want to go back to that example. But with all that combined and the really hot month in Tacoma and proving that there wasn't much left for him to prove in the minor leagues,

[00:12:57] especially when you look at all the batted ball data, the Mariners say to themselves, yeah, it's time. Because they've been bridging this to Cole Young to begin with. But even with Ryan Bliss when he was healthy to start the year, I think Cole Young was always going to factor into this equation. And he was always likely going to be the second baseman of the future. The path has kind of been paved for that for him for a while. And now with him showing that he had checked all the boxes down in the minor leagues, it was time. It was time.

[00:13:26] To compare Cole and Ben Williamson, Cole Young has nearly 800 more plate appearances in the minors than Ben Williamson. Remember when we were talking about the difference between, I'd say, Cole Young and Ben Williamson making their debuts on the Mariners infield this season, people mentioned with Ben, man, he hasn't really got a lot of plate appearances in the minor leagues, but he's a little bit older, so the Mariners kind of just want to see what they have in him.

[00:13:50] Once you get closer to 25, 26, 27, it's like, alright, you're physically mature, let's see if you got it at the big league level. But the other thing that people were talking about, it's like, well, don't we want to see Ben just play a little bit more before he gets the promotion? And the Mariners decided, no, we'd like to have him at third base. Look, I would have been okay if Cole Young had decided to stay in the minors a little bit longer. The Mariners had decided that Cole Young needed to stay in the minors a little bit longer.

[00:14:20] But the man has had 14, nearly 1,500 plate appearances in the minors over four seasons. At some point, as the Mariners probably think, you know, he's shown us a lot. And when he does as well as he possibly could have over the last month in Tacoma, where he's like, yeah, I've really figured it out down here. I'm dominating. I'm way better than everyone else here. I don't need to stay down here. Then at some point, like, all right, you forced your hand.

[00:14:50] Joe Doyle, by the way, speaking of Joe, Joe's been a proponent of being a little bit more cautious with Cole, of letting Cole get some more at-bats. Or he's like, hey, give him a couple more months, call him up at the start of July, right? Instead of one hot month of May, give him a hot month of May, and then give him a hot month of June, and then call him up July 1st. In the end, does that really change the outcome of your season that much? Probably not. But I think the Mariners thought that he was a little bit farther along, and it's not just a hot stretch.

[00:15:16] It's more representative of how they viewed him as a player and just viewed, yeah, he's ready. Yeah, I think that's right. I don't know if it would change your season if you waited a month to call him up. But again, if he really contributes, especially early on here, then it will make a difference. Or even if he has some adjustment period over the first few weeks, and then he gets hot in July, that makes a difference too, because then you don't have to wait for the four weeks of adjustment period

[00:15:43] near the trade deadline for Cole Young, and to essentially have him hypothetically start to get hot in August, he'd be a month ahead. So for the first few weeks, he gets his feet under him, and then things really start to click in July, all-star break, etc. Again, you're ahead of the curve. So if Cole Young's producing at second base for the final second half of the year as a whole, yeah, that makes a difference. Now, this is just hypothetical. He could go off starting this week, and then it won't matter. He just never looks back.

[00:16:11] But knowing that big leaguers usually have some level of adjustment period when they come up from the minors, even the prospects, yeah, you allot for a little bit of time for that. Did the Mariners and Jerry tip their hand on Friday? Yes. When he talked to Kramer? Yes. Of course they did. Well, we see that quote out there. Daniel Kramer of MLB.com goes and talks to Jerry DiPoto,

[00:16:36] and we saw Jerry talking with him and Jude in front of the dugout before Friday's game, and Daniel then goes and writes about Cole Young, and it's like, hey, we went and watched this guy Thursday in Tacoma, and Logan was debuting, and it's like, he looks great. He has the walk-off. So they asked Jerry, you know, what else does Cole Young need to prove to you guys? And Jerry said, nothing. So at this point, Lyle and I kind of look at each other when we see the article. He's like, well, he says nothing. Cole Young's in the Tacoma lineup tonight.

[00:17:05] So why did you say that? Then he gets scratched in the fourth inning. So that's why he said that. Yeah. I mean, Jerry probably doesn't know exactly when Kramer's going to put that article out. For all Jerry knows, Kramer's going to put that article out two days after or whenever, not turn it around an hour later, which credit to Daniel, obviously, for turning the story around because it was a good story. But yeah, like, obviously, like, it's a very direct answer, to put it lightly.

[00:17:34] But there was reason behind it because here's Cole Young this weekend, and he debuts on Saturday. So you say that Mariner fans, Lyle, should temper their expectations for Cole Young, not put too high of an expectation on him. What would you say would be a successful season for him? Look, I'm not saying don't expect him to be good because he's a well-regarded prospect for a reason. He's here for a reason. And the Mariners have carved out a role for him for a long time for a reason.

[00:18:03] I'm not saying don't expect him to be good. I just don't want people to get too over their skis with what they expect the guy to be. Here's what I mean. If Cole Young puts up a 105 WRC plus in his rookie season, and he plays quality defense at second base, and he's, let's say, a one-and-a-half-war player as a rookie,

[00:18:28] which would roughly put him on pace for a two-win season if you prorate it all, saying he had started the year on the roster. Isn't that a good rookie year? Yes. Somewhere from a one-and-a-half-war season and a 105 WRC plus? It is. And actually, going back to the last Mariners' top five middle infield prospect to debut, you just essentially listed off what Cattell Marte did as a 21-year-old rookie. He had a 112 WRC plus.

[00:18:55] He was worth 1.8 fan graphs, wins above replacement. Now, that was only in 57 games, but in totality, numbers aren't really that far off. I think if Cole Young did those results for the rest of the year, I would call that a massive success. Yeah. Just quite frankly, even though he's going to get 40 more games than Cattell got that year at the big league level. So that would be good.

[00:19:20] I want Cole to be a league average to slightly above league average hitter because the floor is so high based off his contact rates and his ability to draw walks. So let's see the floor be league average to slightly above league average this season. Like, do that. Or if he does better than that, great. But what TJ and I are sitting here saying is if that's what he does in his first year, that's a win.

[00:19:43] Like, I don't want to deal with comments from people if Cole's got a league average lash line and people saying, this is a miserable failure. It's like, well, no, it's not guys. Like he's there's a thing called developing and that is a good developing rookie season. Yeah. So we're excited. We're excited to watch Cole. It's I, I'm not gonna make any promises. Sorry. I was about to do a colonic comparison. I'm not going to do it because I don't get anything from that. So I'm not going to do that.

[00:20:14] Jared's rookie year was not good. So we can't, we can't, we can't be comparing to that. But no, but again, Cole's it's, it's tough to like weigh the two because obviously Jared was such a big prospect. But what everybody said about Cole Young forever is the floor is pretty stable and it's pretty safe. The one thing about Kelnick was for as much as he struggled compared with as high of a prospect as he was and all that,

[00:20:43] he didn't have that many minor league at bats. Cole Young did. Cole Young had a real sample size of minor league at bats over the course of about three years. Yeah. How many did Jared end with? Not a lot. Cause it was pretty close to where Ben Williamson was at. So Jared in the minors. Well, while you look at that and while you, yeah, you pull up how many at bats that Kelnick had throughout his minor league tenure. Yeah. It's just a different profile.

[00:21:11] Also, like I'll say this again about Kelnick and people are going to roll their eyes. Right. Because, you know, it didn't work out here. And, and he was very, very polarizing in this fan base as a player. I will say that 2020 year, I think changed a lot for Jared Kelnick. If he had had a normal COVID season, like, you know, if baseball had been played that year throughout the minors and had been played at the start of April and had gone through the end of the year and everything had been about normal.

[00:21:40] Then I still feel like there's some chance. We're talking about a different story here. Maybe not a completely different story, but I, we're never going to know, but I think that COVID year really screwed up with his development. And a lot of other prospects too. It was a little under 800 for Jared. Yeah. Yeah. So Cole's got about a full season more worth of played appearances. Right. Both high schoolers, both debuting at 21. Right. I, again, that COVID year doesn't happen. We may be talking about a different story with, with Kelnick.

[00:22:10] Yeah. We'll never know. But I am very excited for Cole Young and I am very excited that he's here. I'm very excited. He's going to contribute. The video they put out of his call up in the dugout was really awesome. That was cool. I'm glad they got that. Yeah. I was wondering like, how are they going to pull that off? Like, where is it? Are we going to be able to hear them talking? Right. But they did it. Well, I mean, those cameras that the Mariners social team have obviously have really good mics on it. So, you know, they caught the audio pretty well and all that stuff. So that was pretty cool.

[00:22:40] And, you know, I was waiting for that clip to come out because we talked to Cole on Saturday before the game. And, and we asked like, did they get the video of you getting called up? He's like, oh yeah, they got it. It's, it's coming out. I was like, I wonder what it's going to look like. Like I figured he'd just be sitting in the manager's office or something, but no, they, they had him in the dugout. All his teammates around and people are fired up for him. It was, it was pretty cool. And like, you get right into the mind of Cole Young in that video when he gets the call up.

[00:23:09] Cause after he's getting all the hugs from everybody and you can tell he's just totally shell shocked. He's like, well, I guess I'll get my stuff. He's like, yeah. Like I'm, I'm done playing here. Like, this is it. Like, all right. Like two minutes ago, I was out at second base. And think of how much more shocking that moment is than getting called into the manager's office. Because if Cole Young gets called into the manager's office, he might have it in the back of his mind.

[00:23:37] But once the game starts, no. Right. Do you think he was, I don't think he was thinking about that during the game. Probably not. Cause once you start a game, you have to lock in. That's exactly. So when, when John Russell, the manager comes up to him and, and says that he like sits there for a second, he's like, cause like you have to like unwind your mind a little bit to like compute what is, what is saying is like, oh my God. That's, that's crazy. People.

[00:24:05] It's, it's even better than like the spring training thing too. Cause remember what they did for Julio during spring training, right? You know, roster shuffling is coming, you know, they need to make the decisions on this stuff. So, you know, like, okay, once I get called to the manager's office, one of two things is going to happen. Meanwhile, you know, they could have been like, Cole buddy, we need you to like, we need you to shift when you're on defense one foot right. Uh huh. Like that, it could be that instead. Right.

[00:24:31] Like even when Russell's talking to Cole and says, Hey, I'm super proud of everything you've done. I could just be a little mid game pep talk and say, Hey, like go get them. Like, like I noticed one little thing you were doing mechanically out at second base. Shift it a little bit when you go back out there. Next thing, like for all Cole knows, that's probably what he thought it was going to be about. Instead. It's like, go up and do this same thing for Seattle. And Cole's like, uh, when? And he's like, and Russell's like, well, tomorrow you're going to play in Seattle tomorrow. He's like, are you serious?

[00:25:01] That was pretty, that was cool. Like the Mariners did a really good job with that video. If people haven't watched it, it's out on all their social channels. Like you should go watch it. It's a good video. So we want you guys to hear from the man himself and we'll get to that in just a second. But before that, Lyle, let's hear from our friends at rhythm. If you're betting baseball this season, you need to check out rhythms, newest feature power trends. It's like an advanced stats dashboard, but instead of looking at expected ERA or swing rate or

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[00:26:24] Shout out to him for performing in Tacoma, but shout out to us for getting this done and shout out to the Rainiers for helping us set this up. Andy and Riley were really great and helpful in heading and helping us get this all set up because really we sat down with Cole Young. We're like, yeah, we were kind of worried that we weren't going to get to do this because you get called up at this point. But Cole was awesome. He is. He's he's a fun personality. We've gotten to talk to him a little bit and over the course of the last couple of years

[00:26:53] at spring training now down there in the Tacoma and now up at the big league level. He's he's awesome. He's goofy. He's got like a little sly smirk on his face. It seems like at all times his mustache is unique to say the least for him and he's he's a fantastic guy. Yeah, if you want one little peek behind the curtains further to us figuring out sitting down and doing this interview, we got real nervous after Wednesday night because for those

[00:27:19] of you who may not know Cole Young had five hits in Tacoma on Wednesday night and we're sitting there saying, oh, no, like we got this interview set up. We're fired up to do it. We got all our questions prep like we're planning to go out to Tacoma Thursday afternoon and he gets five hits on Wednesday when everybody knows like he's progressing toward the end of the finish line of his minor league career here to begin with. But we see the five hits on Wednesday. It's like, oh, it's going to be tomorrow. Like we're going to wake up tomorrow set to do the interview.

[00:27:48] We're going to be driving down I-5 and find out he got called up and we're going to like selfishly, extremely selfishly be pissed because it's like, well, he couldn't have waited one more day to do it. But we sat down. We did the interview again. Like TJ said, he was great. As soon as we were done, we look we look at each other. We're like, got it done. And then the next night, even further, when we're at the ballpark at T-Mobile and we get the notification, we're like, wow, talk about getting it in at the buzzer, like literally

[00:28:16] 24 hours ahead of the call up. I mean, yeah, the timing really did work out. And I'm glad it did because like TJ said, like we've we've become real Cole Young fans over the last couple of years and he's he's fun. Like we like we really like Cole and we had a we had a fun time sitting down with him. So over your chance to hear from the Mariners newest second baseman, let's hear from him and get you to the interview with Cole Young. All right.

[00:28:43] We've got Mariners infield prospect Cole Young with us. Long overdue. Cole, welcome to the Marine Liar pod. What's the progression with your mustache here? I can't get a read on it. So you show up in spring training with it. You shave it before the start of the minor league season. Now we're sitting here with you. You got it again. Yeah. Let's see. So spring training had the mustache, right? Got here, shaved it. So I wanted like a fresh start for the season. Wasn't really hitting. So I brought it back and started hitting.

[00:29:13] Oh, so it's all superstition thing. Yeah, a little bit. A little bit of superstition. But I mean, if it's working, I got to write it out. OK. Is there a goal length? A goal length for this? I'm just going to. I don't know how long I can get it, really. I don't think I can get it to be too crazy where I get like the twirls and stuff. So yeah, you're just going to we're going to keep it like this. You're kind of like me. I can go like two weeks at a time. And then like it gets a little unreal. I'll say it suits you. And if it at some point this season, I anticipate you will be up in Seattle.

[00:29:43] And I think people at the big leagues are going to want to see that. I mean, if I keep hitting, I'm going to keep it. Yeah, I know. Probably shave it. OK. That's how it goes. So in an hypothetical scenario, whenever it might be that you get to call up, you're not shaving it again like you did at the start of the year. It's like you're hitting. You keeping it? Yeah, I'll probably keep it. OK. I'll probably keep it. We'll just we'll rock with it. Baseball's a funny game, man. You do something you do one little thing in your daily routine. You start hitting. Right. And it's like, I don't want to change anything. A lot of superstition in this game. Yeah. For sure. What's the craziest one you've seen?

[00:30:13] Like growing up playing or through the minors? Like superstition. Whether it's like one that a teammate has or that you might have. I wouldn't even say I'm like that superstitious. But like I have so many little things throughout the day that like I guess is considered superstitious. But I've seen guys that like will put their bat in the same spot every single game or their helmet or glove in the same spot every single game. So just stuff like that. I don't think I've seen anything too crazy really.

[00:30:40] And then you have what we talked about with Colt and he makes the same breakfast every single day to try and keep his process exactly the same. So do you park in the same spot? You switch it up. I actually I do do that sometimes. OK. OK. OK. I don't know. So I did good yesterday. So I I don't know if I parked in the same spot. I think in like this like the same area pretty much. OK. Just little stuff like that. It's stupid. I don't think it works.

[00:31:07] It just gives me some you know some clarity. No if it's not broke don't fix it. OK. You said you do little things throughout the day that are superstitious that people might think are dumb but for you it's just what you do. Can you give us one example of like a little thing you'll do throughout the day every day? Let me think. Let me think. I'd say like before a game I listen to the same songs. OK. Like the same songs every every single game. All right.

[00:31:33] And then like OK that's if I'm doing good I'll like keep listening to those songs but if I have a bad game I'll probably switch it up the next day. All right. So right now like as we're recording this at least you just came off a five hit game. So what's on your playlist right now? Just some some rap some future stuff like that. OK. Just along along those lines. Is it the same exact songs or is it the same playlist? It's like the same six songs. Same six songs. Yeah.

[00:31:59] So I'll probably like put my put my headphones in probably like I don't know 20 minutes before the game and just try to get locked in. If it's future we talking like is it solo? Is it I don't know. Could it like what album would be? He came out with an album last year. I forget. I don't know what it's called. I forget what it's called. But it's just that album from last year. OK. So you try and keep the same songs for the same parts of the day essentially. I remember I used to do that as a freshman in college.

[00:32:28] I listened before it started working out before as it would be walking to the gym. I always listen to the same like three songs on the way. So it would be like kind of ingrained in there. I think as long as you're doing well like it is a way to get your to get your confidence up as you get ready to play in the game. Right. Because you're like all right. For sure. This song admits confidence for me because I've been playing so well. So I'm going to keep doing that and keep this snowball effect rolling. Is that fair? No exactly. I mean I also like the music too. It's not that I'm just like listening to it just because I did good.

[00:32:56] Like I still enjoy listening to that song and stuff. Are any songs going to get added? Maybe eventually. We'll see. I don't know yet. And you have I assume you also have an out of game playlist that you listen to that aren't those six songs that you listen to. Yes. Because those need to be saved. Yeah. I try to listen to like like country after the game or something just to like settle me down after the game because you're you know filled with adrenaline. Right. And you got to go to bed that night.

[00:33:22] So you get just something like kind of low key like country like like chill country music stuff like that. Do you have a top three favorite artist? Top three? Probably Future. Future, Drake. Drake. It's going to be a really like well-known three people. But Future, Drake. I've been listening to a lot of Morgan Wallen recently. Nice. So those three for sure. But I got like 15 good ones. I can see where the balance comes from. Yeah.

[00:33:51] The Future and the Drake's probably before game. Exactly. And the Morgan Wallen's after the game. And then I got like 15. I got like 15 solid people that I'll listen to. Okay. It's like the hype music before the game and then the driving music after the game. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Something you can put on while cooking. Yeah. How has AAA been? What is it like playing in Tacoma, Washington? I love playing here, honestly. I think the first month was a little tough for sure. I mean, it was super cold here. Rainy.

[00:34:20] I wasn't doing that good. And then it was a little bit of an adjustment for sure. But now that it's like it's warmed up, it's nice. I'm starting to hit better. So obviously you're going to like that place more once you're starting to hit good. So it's been great. It's been great for sure. What was that adjustment when you got here? What was like the first thing you're like, okay, this is different than what I was seeing in Arkansas? I would say just the pitchers, they know to locate pretty much all of their pitches, especially

[00:34:50] their off speed. Like you don't see a lot of guys that are going to go up and walk a ton of people. You know, maybe like one or two guys, but you know, they're going to get back in the zone and they're going to locate everything and they know to pitch. And you know, a lot of these, a lot of these guys have been in the big leagues. They're older. So they just know themselves and they know what works for them. And I think that's the biggest thing in this game really. Okay. So double A, is it fair to say it's more stuff over command and triple A is where you start

[00:35:20] to see the command come into play more? Yeah. I think like personally, I think it's, you know, in double A, there's a lot of younger guys that have really good stuff. And you know, some games they'll walk four or five guys and then you get here and you know, a lot of guys are older. They know how to pitch. They got good stuff too. So that's the biggest difference. Like guys in double A, not as good as command, but they have really good stuff, but you get here and the guys have both good command and good stuff.

[00:35:49] Because of that though, you're still striking out less, even though the guys are throwing more pitches in the strike zone and you're walking more, right? I believe you've gotten it up a little bit higher than you were in Arkansas off the top of my head. Yeah, I think so. I don't, I don't really look at it too much because we're only two months in the year. Right. But yeah, like once the season ends, I'll, I'll compare, compare each season. So that's always been a part of your game, right? Like you're somebody who's got a pretty patient approach. Like you don't get away from yourself that much.

[00:36:18] That's fair to say about you, right? And even like getting to the higher levels of competition, like, I guess the best way to ask it is how have you found the, how have you found not to change that despite seeing the bigger stuff? Um, I think just like committing and trusting my approach, honestly, like, um, if I just trust that, like, I know, I know it works for me. Like, I know I can, I'm going to go up to the plate and stick to my approach and, you know, I don't like to strike out. So I take pride in that. Um, but yeah, like once again, I know it works for me.

[00:36:47] I'm going to go up and be aggressive and try to put the ball in play. Why are you the hottest hitter on planet earth the last month? That's a good question. That's a good question. I think, uh, cause I had a really bad first month and I, it, it can be tough. And like, sometimes you just, you don't want to feel that, you don't want to feel that struggle. So you kind of go out and just, you play free really. And, uh, I think the first month kind of put a lot of pressure on myself really, um, got

[00:37:17] out of my approach. I was striking out more. Um, I wasn't walking as much. So I kind of, you know, took a step back and I was thinking to myself like, okay, what works for me? And once I realized that I just went out, trust myself. And yeah. Now I know you're probably not focused on just launching home runs, but it had to feel pretty cool to hit one for 60. Didn't it? For sure. For sure. That, that felt good. Um, I wish I could have got the cycle of that game, but yeah, I had four opportunities to

[00:37:45] get a single and I couldn't do it. So, uh, no, that was, that was cool. And you're trying for it at that point, right? I was trying for sure. Like a home run was not on my mind. It was. It's like, we're flat swinging this. A backside single. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For four at bats. And I think that's what hurt me. Cause then I just, I think I struck out two times and then like popped up. So that hurt me. There's something you don't hear every day. It's like in the modern game where launch angle and you know, home runs are so prevalent. It's like, no, I want to slap one on the ground to the left side.

[00:38:15] I want this cycle. Yeah. That's what was going through my mind. And the guys in the dugout were saying, all right, just get a, get a single. And then you got the cycle. And I remember like hearing people on, on the on deck circle and just like, Oh, you're one away. I'm a single away. And then it got to me. It got to my mind. These are the fans. Yeah. I just like people in the stands and I'm like, Oh crap. Like I, I'm so close to it and I've never, never done it before. So, so you got all the, all these thoughts going through your mind as you're sitting there in the box.

[00:38:43] You're like, all right, just need one. Just need one. And meanwhile, what you want, I think is nothing in your mind. Yeah. I mean, I was just trying to hurt for a single. Yeah. And that's, that's what happened. Now that I think about that, have you seen the Barry Bonds clip where he talks about hitting? It was like, it was recent as of this year, he was on a podcast with Matt Barnes, I think somebody. And he was talking about hitting and he was talking about how, like when he stepped in the batter's box, everything else goes out the window.

[00:39:10] He's literally just trying to, in his words, I think destroy the pitcher. It's like, this is exactly how I'm going to do that. How realistic is that? Um, I think it's different from, from each, each hitter for sure. I mean, it's definitely different for Barry Bonds. Yeah. I think his words were, as soon as I make contact, I've already won. Yeah. I don't, I don't know. Um, that might be, he's Barry Bonds. So I, I don't know.

[00:39:39] I, we definitely have a different perspective on hitting for sure. Um, cause he would hit 70, what is it? 73 home runs a year. Um, but I mean, yeah, like I think some games I, I think that way, like I want to like crush this pitch. Um, but like sometimes if I think that way, like I'll get too aggressive and like too anxious and then start chasing pitches. So, I mean, if yeah, like maybe that worked for him, obviously it did, but I don't, I don't know.

[00:40:08] Usually for me, it's like, okay, let's, let's be patient. Let's get a good pitch and let's hit it the other way. Sure. And, um, yeah, that's kind of my thought process. I'll transition, I'll transition here in a second. But the one other thing I wanted to ask about this is back to the home run, you hit four 60. Like, do you just know, like, is that one of those ones where the second it hits the bat, you know? Um, yeah, I had a good, I had a good idea about that one. Um, I didn't like, I don't pimp home runs. I don't, I don't think I've ever like pimped a home run really.

[00:40:36] Cause I'm just afraid of like, it's going to hit the top of the wall and I'm not even at first base. Yeah. Um, so I didn't, I didn't pimp it, but like, I knew I got it. I knew I got it. Then I saw the outfielders and they weren't really moving. So that's what I know. Just wait until you get up to Seattle. You're going to just square one up. You're going to think, man, I just crushed that ball. You will, you'll let, you'll just do a little bat. You'll do a little bat flip and then the ball will die short of the warning. No, he won't. He doesn't bat flip. He knows. No, I'm sprinting out for sure.

[00:41:04] I don't got, I don't got enough juice to do that. I think we've done this exact thing before with the bat, the bat flip with Cole. I legitimately think what, I think it was last spring training. We got you on the mic. Like I think I asked you if you bat flip and you're like, no, no, no. Cole doesn't want to end up like one of these people on Twitter, like one of these players that starts jogging out a home run and then it hits off the wall. Like you said, that's embarrassing for sure. Yeah. So I don't think I'll ever do that. Let me ask you this. Like, what do you like to do away from the baseball field? We always like to ask people that because I feel like players don't always get the chance

[00:41:34] to talk about it enough and talk about their own passions. So like, what do you do when you're not on a baseball field? Yeah. I mean, it's kind of tough in season just because like you're, you're playing later games. So you gotta, you gotta sleep in a little bit, get your sleep and then I'll wake up like 10 30, 11, uh, just eat some food, come to the park, do all that stuff. Once the game ends, I'll play some Xbox for about like an hour and a half. And then I've been watching a show recently. So it's kind of, kind of been the routine. What are you watching? Yeah.

[00:42:03] Uh, it's called Narcos. Narcos Mexico. So I've been binge watching that, but like, I try to try to go through a show like once, once a month. Really? What have you finished over? Okay. Last season in Arkansas, like what shows did you finish? Ooh, let's see. Game of Thrones. That's number one for sure. Game of Thrones. I watched Ozark in the spring, uh, Peaky Blinders. I watched last year too. Um, so those are some great shows. Here's my favorite Game of Thrones question.

[00:42:33] Who's the biggest villain? Oh, Joffrey for sure. Really? Really? Okay. Tell us why. I don't, I don't think anyone, I feel like he was so like easy to not like in that show. Um, man, like that's just such a great show. I mean, like I, there's a lot of good answers, isn't there? Yeah. There's a ton of good answers. Um, I mean, if anyone has not seen that show, you should definitely watch it. Cause some people might say Ramsey. Some people might say Cersei. Like there's a bunch of answers you could go with.

[00:43:03] There's a lot. There's a lot. There's not a wrong answer. Yeah. You know what I heard an opinion on recently though, to validate your answer about Joffrey. The difference is like people like Ramsey were just straight evil and diabolical in Game of Thrones. The reason people I think say Joffrey a lot is because people get flashbacks to like their middle school bullies. And it just, it's like everybody has a Joffrey. I heard this on the radio recently. It's like there is a Joffrey in every school and that's why people are like, oh, I can't stand this guy. No. Yeah. He was annoying in the show for sure. Just cause he was like young with so much power.

[00:43:33] Right. Yeah. It was too much power for him. It's like, this is, this is like kind of unfair. Yeah. It's unfair. Right. It's unfair. And no one, nothing anyone can do about it. Cause they were like trying, yeah, they're trying to get rid of him and work. I don't know if I like the ending. I don't know what you guys think of it, but. You could watch six seasons. I say seven. You get everything, you get all the big story drops, seven episodes in, and then like you'll live with it. Yeah. The middle part, like the middle seasons were by far the best. For sure. It was two through, yeah, two through six. They were the best.

[00:44:02] Although I'm not saying the ending was good. I'm not saying the eighth season was great by any means, but isn't there some part of you that would just feel like a hole in yourself if you didn't see the night King die? No? You gotta see it. Yeah. Probably. Cause that's how the seventh season ended. But you also had like, that was just like the inevitable, inevitable battle waiting to happen. As opposed to like the big secret drops at the end of the seventh episode, seventh season. That's what I think people were waiting for. All right. Tell us, Cole, how would you end the show if you could pick?

[00:44:31] Oh my gosh. And it's hard. Like, it's hard to end TV shows. I kind of forget the ending and like how it went. I just remember, like I was disappointed. Uh-huh. They voted Bran onto the Iron Throne. Yeah. I kind of wish it was Jon Snow. Yeah. I'm with that. It was Jon Snow. So, yeah, if he, if they made him king at the end, that would have been, that would have been great. Yeah. Yeah. Like, why did he have to go back to the wall? What was the point? Exactly. They just went through this, all this trouble and he's back where he started. I don't know. Crazy. I don't know.

[00:45:00] Did we hear through the grapevine you play a lot of Fortnite too, speaking of Xbox? Uh, I used to back in the day. Uh-huh. Like, middle school. Well. I haven't played in a long time. I thought, you can tell us if we're wrong on this. I thought the story we heard was when you got the call last off season and the Mariners let you know, hey, like, you're going to be in Big League camp this spring. The story was, oh yeah, I was sitting there playing Fortnite and I got a call about it. I was like, that's right. I think I was. I don't know what game, I know I was playing Xbox, so I don't remember what game it was. Okay. Okay. Okay.

[00:45:30] I mean, maybe Fortnite, Fortnite or like NHL. Okay. Or Call of Duty. And what do you play more now? I've been playing some Warzone recently. I love NHL too. Okay. So those are the two games for sure. Okay. When you get the call to get moved up a level, are you always playing Xbox? Oh, let me think. No, I don't, I don't think so. Where are the spots you've been? Let me, let's see. So when I get caught up to Everett, I mean, usually I think it just happens at the clubhouse.

[00:45:59] Okay. And then last spring they told me I was going to Arkansas. So that was just like in the spring training complex. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, the big league in Vail was just, I was just chilling by an Xbox. Uh-huh. I was like, sick. And is it like a text you get? Does Depoto call you? Is it somebody else that calls you? Like, uh, it's Justin Toole who calls you. He just call you up and say, Hey, like you're going to big league camp. And then it's, it's pretty much that. And then it's like, yeah, we'll send you details in a couple of weeks or whatever. What is big league camp like?

[00:46:28] It's, it's awesome for sure. Uh, so this year is my, my second big league camp. I'd say like the first year it was, it was a lot of learning and just like asking questions. And then, uh, this year it was more like, okay, let's, let's compete. Let's, um, let's just show, show people like what I, what I got and like, uh, what type of player I am really. But like, also you still want to learn because like, um, I'm young. Um, so it was great.

[00:46:54] It was great knowing all the types of guys in the clubhouse and, you know, it's, it's so cool. Like just feeling around balls with JP has been in the show for so long and he's, uh, he's a great player. Speaking of him, tell us if we have this right. Wait, last year when you guys went out to play a road game in spring training, did you carpool with JP to a game? Yeah. I think it was my first, my first game. Yeah. And he took me there. If I remember the story, he's like, Hey, like Cole come ride with me. Yeah. That was awesome. That was so cool.

[00:47:22] That was, that was so cool. Just like ask him different questions about the game and like what he's thinking in certain situations. And, uh, he's such a great, such a great guy. So that was, that was awesome. And I'd say the good thing for you is that your guys' approaches aren't that similar or aren't that dissimilar. I'll say like it's, it's low strikeout, high contact, take your walks. Power is going to be pull side both.

[00:47:46] I mean, you play a lot more second now, but he's, you know, second baseman shortstop, you know, kind of more kind of the same. Left-handed. Yeah. Left-handed. What do you feel like was one thing that stuck out to you? Um, like, yeah. I mean, like with his approach like that, he doesn't strike out a lot. He walks, he can hit for power too. And I think it's important these days now that like a lot of people value power. Um, so just seeing that he can, he can slug and he can also walk and strike out.

[00:48:16] Not, not a lot. That's, that's awesome to see. And I think the biggest thing too is his fielding. And it's, it's amazing to watch. I mean, he's got a, he's got a gold patch for a reason. So just trying to learn as much as possible from him was, was great for me. And I would say the power profile for you too is very similar, right? Cause I think of when JP gets, gets his home runs, he knows like, Hey, I got to uncoil on this. I got to like, I got to pull it in the air and I got to hit it hard, but he's not always going to do that. Cause he's got to be a little, he's got to be balanced at the plate.

[00:48:43] I feel like that's how you approach your power too, where it's like, all right, if I'm going to, if I'm going to hit this for power, I'm hitting it hard. I'm hitting in the air and I'm pulling it. But otherwise I'm trying to use the whole field. Yeah. I mean, I think it's just like looking for your pitch really. So now that I've had like over a thousand at bats in the minor leagues, I, I feel like I can recognize like what pitches I can do damage on.

[00:49:06] Um, so once I see those and like in my bats and like, if I get like a fastball in, I know that I can pull it in back, submit it to right field. Uh-huh. And if he throws like a changeup away, I, I know that if I try to pull the ball and, um, it's not going to work out. So if I get like a changeup away, I just try to hit it the other way. What's the most home runs you've hit at any level? It can be little league too. I don't, I don't remember like how many I hit in little league.

[00:49:32] Honestly, I know like first year, I think I hit like 11 last year was last year. Yeah. First full years, 11 last year was like nine. Uh, this year I got five. So hopefully I can beat that 11 this year. Like in little league, was it one or was it a lot more than that? Yeah. Literally it was a lot. Uh huh. Yeah, for sure. That's what I figured. Yeah. A lot. Um, I don't remember. I don't remember how many. That, that's easy. You had too many to count. Yeah. We didn't, I don't, I don't think I counted. Okay.

[00:50:01] Two spring trainings ago, we asked you how many home runs you would hit against a JV pitcher. Right now. Yeah. Right. Right. Right. In that moment. It's been a little bit of time since then. What was the timeframe we used? Was it a hundred pitches? I think we had bats. I think one season. I think we said like 25 ish games, 25 games. Keep in mind, this is with a metal back. Yeah. Yeah. Like, okay. Metal back. And Cole was like, I don't know, eight. I think you said, yeah. Eight doesn't sound like a lot. Okay. I'm okay. The question is, do we think you'd hit more now? Okay.

[00:50:30] So you said how many games? 25. 25 games. Okay. Once again, like I didn't hit that many home runs in high school, but like me now, now that like I can hit home runs more often, 25 games, JV pitching. I mean, you gotta be at least one a game, like 20, 25. There we go. That's a great answer. That's a great answer right there. For sure. That's a step up from the city. Yeah. 25. I mean, JV, they're probably throwing like 80.

[00:51:01] So if that, if that, yeah, that might be generous. I would say Cole in that scenario, you could absolutely bat flip because it's gone. Yeah. Maybe a couple of bat flips in there. Yeah. Sure. A couple of bat flips. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Poor JV pitcher. God, he's going up against Cole Young. Was there a point in time in high school where you started to kind of notice that a lot of people were watching you play baseball games? I would say senior year. Definitely.

[00:51:29] You know, once all the mock drafts started coming out and more scouts are coming to the games, that's when I noticed it. And like I would, I would have BP before the games and there'd be like 10 to 15 scouts coming to the games. So that's when I realized like, okay, I have a shot at getting drafted. And that's when I knew like, yeah, there's some eyes on me. But I also like, I, I did travel ball since eighth grade. So like I, I went through the whole like college recruiting process. Like I knew I kind of had like the similar feeling.

[00:51:57] I knew what it was like when people like scouts were watching me. So I think that helped doing travel ball at a young age. And then yes, in your year, that was, there was a lot of attention. It felt like, but yeah, I kind of knew how to handle it. And yeah, it was, it was a great experience. It was awesome. Speaking of people watching you. And this is last thing for me, Cole, since you've been playing up here in AAA more, there are more fans in the stands. They're not scouts. They're fans. Instead, we talked to Drangel about this. What is the funniest thing?

[00:52:27] Something someone's chirped at you. The funniest thing. There's been some, there's been some like, I guess inappropriate things, but I don't know if I could say it on the, on the podcast. Gosh, I can't, I can't think of anything good I can say right now. So they're all things that would be like, like censored out on TV basically. Yeah. Yeah. Man, fans getting into it.

[00:52:57] You would think just in a minor league game, fans are just content watching and are happy to let the guys play. It's different than the big leagues. Drinks are cheaper. Yeah. I mean, they're probably, they're probably drunk. They're getting bored in the seventh inning. So they're like, all right, we gotta, we gotta do something. Let's rag on the kid with the mustache. Yeah. Let's do that. All right. Last one I got for you. Maybe people in Seattle know what this is, but as a Pittsburgh guy, I feel like we have to ask one question about Primanti Bros, which is a sandwich that's very well stapled in

[00:53:26] the Pennsylvania area in Pittsburgh. Fair or foul? Like, like good or bad sandwich? Like the one with all the fries on it, like all the stuff on it. I love it. Good? I love it. Okay. Because it's just like, we have so many Primanti's nearby. So like, if we're just hanging out one day, let's just, oh, let's just go to Primanti's. Okay. Do that. That was your go-to spot? I don't know if it's my go-to, but like, it's, it never disappoints. Okay. Is the stadium, sorry to interrupt. All right. Oh, I was just saying like the fries on the burger. I'm sure that's like kind of crazy to like someone who's not from Pittsburgh. Sure.

[00:53:56] But I like it. It's great. Before TJ asked his question, I was going to set him up with this. We've been to Pittsburgh once. It was for one night. We were at a Pirates game and we'd heard all this hype about this sandwich, but then we try it and like this is, I'm sure the ballpark, I'm sure the ballpark version is different than like the actual restaurant version. But yeah, you can, you can give your two cents on it, Teej, if you want. I thought it sucked. All right, man. I think if you're not from Pittsburgh, I don't know, I don't know if you like it, but if you're from Pittsburgh, you like it.

[00:54:26] Did you, have you had the one in the stadium? I'm sure I have. Like I, I went to so many Pirates games growing up, so I'm sure I remember having like the crab fries a lot. So every time I go there, I have the crab fries. I was thinking there's no way it can be this bad. It's like, yeah, meat and fries on a sandwich. Like that sounds pretty good. But then I had it. I was like, I'm like, maybe the brick and mortar has to be better. Like it has to be better. Yeah. I would, I would assume. I don't, ballpark food that happens sometimes. Like we, that's not the only place we've heard that happen. We did go to one brick and mortar.

[00:54:56] That was actually way worse than I thought it was going to be on that same trip. And it was skyline chili. And it was, that was even worse. Do they have that in Pittsburgh? No, they don't have it in Pittsburgh, but it was on the way. It was, we had it the day before. That's probably for the best. You remember that. Don't ever go to skyline chili. Okay. One last, last question. This just popped up into mind. As somebody who grew up around Pirates games, I'm going to assume you were an Andrew McCutcheon fan. Yeah, of course. Pittsburgh comes to Seattle in roughly a month. I'm just going to throw this hypothetical out there. Say by that time you're up in the big leagues and the Pirates come to town.

[00:55:26] Would you have like, would you have the guts to go over to walk up to Andrew McCutcheon? Yeah. I mean, we, we hit together the past three years in the off season. Oh, well then there you go. Yeah. I would, I would definitely say what's up for sure. Yeah. Was that cool to hit with a guy like that? It was amazing. It was sick. I mean, he's such like a humble dude. He's, he's been in the show for, for like 16 years. Right. And like, he has so much, you know, like wisdom and knowledge and it's, it's always great

[00:55:56] to ask him questions and like pick his brain and learn from him. So hopefully he keeps playing. And so I keep hitting with him in the off season. That is pretty cool. I gotta say that's a cool way to end it. Cole, this has been awesome. Thanks for sitting down with us. We're loving watching you thrive and continued all success. We'll be rooting for you. Thank you guys. I appreciate it. Well, that was some pretty cool timing. Hopefully you guys got to learn a lot about Cole Young in that interview. And for a guy that is the newest Seattle Mariner and two days new at the time of recording into his big league career.

[00:56:26] Yeah. It was pretty fun to sit down with them at such an opportune time. We love talking to them. Fun personality. I think Mariners fans are going to become big fans of them and glad we got to get the interview done and sit down with them. So hopefully you guys enjoyed. Appreciate you guys all listening. And with that, that'll just about wrap up this edition of the Marine Layer podcast. You guys know the drill. If you want to find all of our stuff, it's right over on our website, marinelayerpod.com. Go get your merch, sign up for our Patreon. We would love to have you over there.

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